Testing Cheap Ways to Clean Cymbals
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- A lot of people were wondering if vinegar would work as a cymbal cleaner so I thought I would test it out, along with some other things I thought might work. I am not a fan of cleaning my cymbals, thus, these b8s.
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I learned that I'm going to keep using Paiste cymbal cleaner.
+Nicholas Paul your comment needs more love hahaha
hahaha fuck off
No kidding, if you've spent money on a drum kit, cymbals, AND care enough to keep them clean, you'll buy the fucking cleaning product too.
use lemon
😂😂😂
Spreads ketchup with a toothbrush, and the toothpaste with his hands, what kind of world do you live in???
+bondfish would you rather touch toothpaste or ketchup?
+rdavidr They're both fluids with a high viscosity. There is almost no difference, you'll have to wash your hands either way.
+rdavidr DAVID THE KETCHUP IS BEST LOOKY THE TEXTURE IS SOO PROFESIONAL LIKE WOW IT HAS LIKE PLATNUM LIKE COLOR! USE KETCHUP GUYS
Think in the right way: which of them is by definition an abrasive fluid?
Or: wich of them is thought to be in contact longer time with the body?
bondfish
Lol
The cleanest parts of the cymbal were the tapemarks, haha. Good vid, loved it. Thanks!
That song in the background is fucking weird.
Yeah 😂
how to remove the shine from your cymbals
I don't even have drums, why am I watching this?
Because you were looking for wok recipes.
Me too.I don't know same way
it's your inner drumming calling you. embrace it
Because you're an idiot, you're welcome.
You don't have to state the facts, you're just being rude dude. And if you're gonna get rude, better go and play xbox live.
What did I learn from this? ...Never let this guy anywhere near my cymbals..!
Back in the 60's, before cymbals came with a permanent polish, all good cymbals would oxidize immediately by sweaty fingerprints. My jazz drumming instructor gave me a solution which worked great on those cymbals which may not work as well on today's polished/coated cymbals. Here are the steps which you have to do fast:
Be near a sink big enough to wash your cymbal in because you will have to move fast.
While wearing rubber gloves, apply Sno-Bol toilet bowl cleaner (I don't know if it exists today. It is extremely acidic and stinks horribly.) to the cymbal surfaces, top and bottom with a sponge.
IMMEDIATELY, wash the cymbal just like a dish with dish detergent and rinse very, very well.
IMMEDIATELY, towel dry.
Spray Pledge wax onto both surfaces, top and bottom.
This whole process took less than 10 minutes total.
This protected my cymbals so well that I have not had to clean/polish them in over 50 years. They are the original AVEDIS ZILDJIAN (no model names or numbers back then, other than "A" and "K".) and they have the vintage patina that makes them look much better than today's cheap "bling" cymbals.
So, ACID - SOAP & WATER - DRY - POLISH. Simple.
Thats really cool honestly
I have those same cymbals that I bought from a church for $100 and I've been trying to figure out how to clean and polish them.
@@Heath1202 A simpler way may be to use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish. It has citric acid in it, so I would recommend applying a second coat with a car nano-spray polish. I am presently doing this to all of my cymbals, vintage and newer ones.
Do NOT use Lemon Pledge Spray Polish on painted surfaces. I did this to a painted Ludwig drum set and the paint was ruined! This spray is powerful stuff, so just use it on cymbals.
Some of your comments to ignorant people on here make me laugh my ass off. I love your channel and the experiments that you perform on drums are awesome. Cheers!
haha, gotta let em know whats up some times.
*uses toothbrush for ketchup but not toothpaste
touch toothpaste>touch ketchup
But you can lick your fingers after the ketchup!
+CrusaderDeleters these people are sic af!
Hazen Stribling after using toothpaste,my cymbals fucking dirty
100th like
YESSSS.... cymbal porn ;P
No..... Just no....
Okay...lance whatever works for you, I guess?
You both clearly dont know lances channel, the dude LOVES his cymbals 😎
LanceCampeau LMAO
>.>
It's not Ajax, it's Francis!
+Diogo Almeida F R A N C I S
HAHAHA THIS GUY'S GONNA GET RUN OVER BY A ZAMBONI
Deadpool: Any last words?
Francis: Say my name
Yuo ween!!1!
+Spoodermen Produktionz "oh I'm gonna spell it out for you"
I found that a 3rd Lemon Juice mixed with two 3rds water works the best. Or, I saw someone else's video that showed him simply cutting a lemon in half and just rubbing the lemon on the cymbal, then rinse & dry thoroughly. And I must say, the results were awesome & VERY surprising. Lemon juice and aluminum foil wipes away rust like dirt off rims, as well.
#prettywell
Just a tip, vinegar is acid, it corrodes metals. Cymbals are made out of copper mainly so rubbing it with vinegar helps to clean it ´without any big damage done since it's a pretty weak acid, but having it there over night surely does it's job too good.
I once bought a Zildjian rock ride for 60 bucks at some old record shop and it looked like complete shit. It was filthy and had a little bit of oxidation, so I wasn't sure if it had any potential. I took it home and because of your other video on ketchup and it cleaning cymbals, i used that method. It worked really well and gave it more shine than it had before, but it wasn't really clean enough. I ended up using a small bowl of vinegar mixed with salt and half of a lemon. I covered the whole thing in the vinegar and salt, then I scrubbed it all in using the lemon. This shit actually worked really well and made it look amazing, it doesn't even look like the same cymbal anymore.
That's actually a pretty good way of doing it...that combination of the acid from the lemon and abrasiveness of the salt works well. Makes me kind of wonder what a lemon and Ajax would do?
Then a gentle scrub with a mix steak sauce and barbacue sauce, use handfuls of mud to exfoliate the pores of the cymbals let sit over night with sliced cucumbers on surface then polish with helavagood dip works every time
That smells great...
I have used Noxon which its very strong. Which is about $3.28 online but NOXON WILL Remove the label tho.
Not in the mood to smell ketchup on my cymbals...
Best solution is to spend $10 bucks on the proper product.. Sabian Safe & Sound Cymbal Cleaner.
Or we can just cut some branches and make drum sticks with it right?
If we can't spend $10 on our cymbals to properly care for them, we are playing the wrong instrument.
TAMA RULES.
cheers boss!
Tama does rule!!
I've played Pearl's my entire life. 30 yrs... last year I got tama superstars, and I'll never play anything else. Tama has my heart
I've only ever had TAMAs and not entirely I purpose, I just kinda ended up with them, EVERY time.
All I learned from this video is how to ruin, and mess my cymbals so no thanks, I'll stick to actual cymbal cleaner.
real drummers never clean their cymbals...that's rule one through 1 million in cymbal care...
+Nate Harris "real drummers" lol
+rdavidr Careful, never know when the fake drummers are gonna getcha!!!
So if I follow you: because i like my cymbal shinny, i'm less pf a drummer?
Nate Harris bullshit
What a stupid fuck. 😂😂😂
the cymbal is b8 bronze so the ketchup brings the cymbal back to its raw bronze state
perhaps
+JBHviews but for some reason there another metal coating and ketchup removed that , thats not good.
+John Leaf non-newtonian fluid to the rescue
JBHviews
The outer coating is copper oxide, the citric acid found in the tomatoes dissolved it revealing the bronze underneath. The vinegar also dissolves this as well at the non-oxidized copper in the bronze, and leaves behind a tarnish. The toothpaste looks funky because of the silicates and other polishing agents left behind. The Ajax would do the same, but it's more water soluble whereas the toothpaste is not so much. Thank you for attending my TED talk
ketchup contains vinegar
You're the channel that does the things to cymbals that I'm too broke to do
"Read the title. "TESTING" not "HOW TO." Yeah all these suck, great we all can see that. And no one cares that you dont clean your cymbals. People always seem to brag about how they dont clean their cymbals, because "it makes them sound so much better," like anyone gives a shit. I dont clean my cymbals and guess what, they sound the same."
LMAO, What a legend.
Vaseline. Done. Best one so far. Cheap. Not labor intensive. Shiny. Protects from oxidation. I use it every time.
Hell yes. That sounds like a winner. Do you buff with a rag, or does it just wipe off pretty easy?
Dude you have to scrub it wtf.
1:45 man
Watch the whole video asswipe
Alex Z dumbass
The reaction you're seeing is the acid washing that occurs with the high copper content of bronze. it just removes the protective layer applied during manufacturing. When I cook pasta, i save a bit of the tomato sauce from the bottle and apply it to the bottom of my copper bottom pots to clean them
#prettywell
wow that ketchup cymbal looks awesome super rusty and idustrial
+August Burns Red wait til you see tomorrows video!
rdavidr ahaha ill be waiting
me and my mom poured vinegar and ketchup and salt all over my cymbal and scrubbed it with toothbrushes and it is really shinny and cleaned it good.
Thanks but they all looked like they damaged the metal but you didn't say that... Oxidized isn't good
I love how he used his toothbrush on the ketchup, but not the toothpaste.
The Mean Green, if you read the directions, you aren't suppose to let it dry. I use it around the house cleaning different shit. It's some really stout shit man. I usually dilute it though because it will take the clear finishes off most surfaces.
When you started coughing I fell on the floor.. LOL
I just use NeverDull on mine, cleans and polishes better than anything else I have used, is fairly safe on labels, and leaves a super thin oil barrier to keep tarnish/corrosion down.
I used mothers mag and aluminum wheel polishing and I took a really old 1970 zildjan ride cymbal to make it look like a brand new one from guitar center worked really good.
When people with covid 19 realise he used hand sanitiser for an experiment
I actually tried toothpaste today on a pair of new beats from 86' ...and I must say they came out pretty good ...the difference between how David did it and the way I did it was I worked the toothpaste in with a damp gritty sponge with toothpaste waited about 10 minutes poured some water on it went over again with a damp sponge then buffed it ...wasnt perfect but it took the dullness & some other dirt ....pretty satisfied with the results
there´s this mexican sauce called "Bufalo Sauce", if you can get it, go for it, it is the best to polish metal.
Lemon juice and toothpaste mixed works great!
nooooo please, the vinager just disolved the clear coat of your cymbal!!!
Baking sofa and lime juice always works best for cleaning copper. Seriously you should give it a try.
Baking sofa. Does it look like a couch by chance? 😂
Put the Heinz Ketchup ( ONLY KIND TO USE ) put it on, rubs it in and around the grooves by hand, let it sit for 5 min NO LONGER, then wash off by hand under HT water-then DRY with clean Towel ASAP-then use another towel to buff it a little
IT'S A DESERT TOPPING AND A CYMBAL CLEANER!
I only use Ketchup on cymbals that are too slow.
If you want to make steampunk cymbals, through some ketchup on some B8's haha
honestly, you should try never dull. its the best solution ive found. its pretty cheap and lasts a long time.
Hey pal, can you make a cajon???
Yeah you should do that
You should do a video about making your own CrashGuard Drum Mic Shield and have a sound test with and without.
I made my cleaning experiment on my cymbals with some few lot of cleaning ingredients it has salt baking soda two powder cans of bar's keeper friend then the lemon juice vinegar and coke mix let it sit for like 6 to 24 hours over day and night in 6 hours it needs to let it soak
All the chemicals And in 24 hours it needs to let it sizzle so the rust can easily removed then after that take the cymbal out from the cleaning recipe then dump all the chemicals in the sink or dump the chemicals on the grass then clean it with soap and water and finish off with pledge and and it's a rust removable cleaning recipe and also you can finish cleaning it off with a cymbal cleaning polish then polish it wait until 15 seconds then clean off again and see the shining results and all that stuff
people should stop clenaning their cymblas...
I only clean the ones I sell... if they have a brilliant finish. Back in the day I tried most of the cymbal cleaners sold at music stores. Wasted money. Barkeepers Friend... 2 bux w/ tax at Home Depot. Can't beat it.
As a professional metal polisher, no.
Vinegar produces patina on cymbals, like the green stuff on it.
The black tape cleanned better than all of the other stuffs
The Show - Cymbal have NO old Patina ... is a new One ... But Ketchup works !!! :)
Lemon juice and a microfiber towel and paper towels works amazingly
bar keepers friend is bassically ajax with oxalic acid
best stuff in the world for metal
a billion times better than vineger
try lemon juice and salt together as a paste
super cheap works great
rockhard I know right. Bar Keepers Friend is the best I know of. It's cheap too
Zildjian says not to use ketchup on your cymbals thank god those are Sabian hihats 😂😂
I like the way he uses the toothbrush for the ketchup and he's gloves for the toothpaste 😂
Dude, you're making this waaay to hard on yourself. If you're trying to save cash by not using actual cymbal cleaner, just get a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner, put on some gloves, wipe it on and rinse it off, and you're done. It's the same basic ingredients as Groove Juice.
Necro comment but the toothpaste is a polish, aka it's mildly abrasive, you have to scrub with it to get any effect. You don't just put toothpaste on your teeth and then rinse them off, right?
0:47 that satisfying sound tho 👌
Wrights Copper cream polish and a bath tub and lots of HOT WATER . I can clean 5 cymbals and hi hats in less than 60 mins.
Just dry them with aclean towel. It done.
You used the wrong toothpaste. Its specifically the Arm&Hammer stuff from Dollar Tree. Its not so much the toothpaste that cleans it, it's the baking soda in it.
l have always used brasso. its abrasive so scrub only lightly. let dry 10 min. then wash with dish soap. they will look new. amazing. use in ventilated area. im 65 and used this since high school
Should have thrown a lemon/lime in on this comparison!
why clean them, do they sound better? and why not a copper cleaner to clean copper pots?
The black tape cleaned it the best in all areas haha
I'll have some fries with my cymbal. ;)
From a chemistry perspective I wouldnt clean a cymbal with an acid because, it will dissolve a bit of the metal and make it harder to clean in the future and possibly even weaken the integrity of the microscopic structures, leading to faster cracking.
If you let your cymbal sit in vinegar for long enough it would eventually crumble away and partially dissolve.
Most dirt accumulated on a cymbal is organic matter like dust and oils and lipids from handling that then reacts with the metal and atmosphere to form the crud.
Acids are not as effective at cleaning these types of materials.
Rather, alkali are better suited for this, as any lipids or oils that are reacted with the metal or binding the grime to the cymbal will be converted into soap on contact(this is how they make soap).
Then scrub with a polar solvent like acetone (i would have to check if this reacts with the cymbal... but i doubt it) this will remove any polar compounds from the grime.
Then scrub with a non-polar solvent and this will remove any non-polar material. Which should constitute the entirety of the dirt, leaving the cymbal fresh and restored!
And it shouldnt react and degrade the metal like the vinegar and ketchup.
You can literally see the green copper oxide forming when you have the vinegar on it.
Its literally changing the chemical composition of your cymbals and the microscopic structures :P
I have some cymbals i need to clean im going to try using alkali and solvents and see what happens ;D
Sodium hydroxide (lye) might be a bit too alkaline but, if so, calcium hydroxide(pickling lime, at the grocery store) would probably work fine.
STOP Best cymbal cleaner, and easy no mess, use Bar Keepers Friend power wet the cymbal then with a damp sponge sprinkle on Bar keepers powder wash cymbal with the wet sponge in circle, rinse with warm water and dry cymbals. Best I have ever found!
I am not putting ketchup or any of these products on my Sabian HHX cymbals, AAX cymbals, or AA splashes. No no no! I don't understand how you can look at the results, even after doing it a 2nd time, and thinking any of the cymbal surface was clean.
Fun experiment. Next try Creme Rinse, Crisco and Dr. Pepper. :)
This video is old now, but DO NOT USE STEW LEONARD'S KETCHUP. It stains the cymbal, I cleaned the same cymbal a while ago with good ketchup and it cleaned it flawlessly.
Did you ever tried lemon? I don't usually clean cymbals but when I do, I use lemon and it's the best! Even with the logos and stuff. If you want to keep them, they don't come off!
If you want, I can make a video and send it to you!
Cheers!
Cymbals are bronze. Bronze is copper and tin. (Cheap cymbals are brass. Copper and zinc.) Most of the cleaners that people use have a slight acidic content that bites into the copper of the cymbal. It removes that top layer of oxidation and crud. Barkeeper's Friend has a slight acidic content to remove calcium. Ketchup had tomatoes and vinegar which are both acidic. I should have paid more attention in chemistry class....
both vineger and ketchup has acid. acid works well removing some metal oxides!
If you would like to watch your cyms turn bright and shiny right before your eyes, wet the metal down with white vinegar (7% acetic acid) and then sprinkle a nice hefty pinch of Kosher salt onto it.
Gently rub with a paper towel dampened in a bit of the vinegar, and behold the magic!
Oh damn, Rockhard beat me to it… lol
I have cleaned all of my symbals with the cheapest ketchup and it got rid of every Black and dirty spots... But be careful, cause it erased the Black letters of the Brand. Put on some tape so that the Black text in the symbal doesnt disappear
cymbal cleaner is not a solvent, it's an abrasive. You can't just spray something on a cymbal and have it be clean, you have to scrub it and it becomes polished. For this reason the toothpaste and ajax would have actually been the best.
I use straight 70% alcohol and a paper towel always works great
Top it off with some NEVR DULL like we do in the Navy and you're set
Wow...Never Dull gets done right. No damage. Good stuff. It's not fancy sounding enough for them.
The reason they clean well is because they are extremely acidic. also, none of them have a pH buffer solution. If you don't know what that means, well, all you need to know is that they are acidic.
Use WD-40. I polish all of my cymbals with it and it is the best thing ever. I prefer this even more that zildjan cymbal polish. It is the best cleaner ever
Ketchup has vinegar...maybe that’s what’s working....and the tomato is staining a lil?! Looks cool from here thou lol
I'm sorry dude but you have some of the most funny and ghetto ways of doing these things. The hot glue dam for the vinegar killed me.
I wonder how these would have done if you scrubbed the cleaners into the cymbal then rinsed well and cleaned?
One time I saw a 'real drummer' at Guitar Center store . I grabbed a Paiste cymbal squirted some toothpaste on it and whipped it at him like I was Xena Warrior Princess.
even if these products do clean the cymbal, most of them will harm it and ruin its sound and finish. Just buy cymbal polish, it’s made for cleaning and will pay off
Dude Love the vids!!!, You should try a lemon next the Natural acid in the lemon does a great job.
+Ruben Groenewald And best of all it doesnt smell bad like the damn vinigar
I think mr clean eraser would of dominated this challenge. after scrubbing my bathtub for like and hour my wife walks in with this damn eraser and cleaned off all the shit in like 5 min. Give that a go sir.
I like how you used a toothbrush to spread the ketchup but not the tooth paste. You're a mad man.
You're not suposed to leave vinegar 24 on a metal... it eats it... with vinegar it works as an abrassive, 45min should be enough. ;)
What brand of ketchup catsup? The chemical ratios ckmbined with the metal combo seems to actually matter.
So im guessing vinegar is a bit too strong and goes past the cleaning part, and starts corroding instead, and the tomatoes mixed with vinegar dilutes it just enough so it cleans and absorbs into the tomato soup lol thats the only reason i can see it working, you will have to try raw tomatos or pure tomato juice to see if its actually the vinegar inside of the ketchup thats cleaning
Love the soundtrack of this video L0L
Should have titled this video "How to waste 24 hours of your time and not clean your cymbals."
Those cymbals weren't even that dirty. I have a pair of those exact HiHats. Even brand new they weren't very shiny. There was a guy who posted a video who had a cymbal that was completely dark brown with dirt (like completely soiled on every inch of the surface) and he used the ketchup in one area and the dirt came clean off.
+CR yeah I have another video with ketchup, it works best with b20
i think
You have to scrub. Toothpaste works because it's an abrasive. Cleaning doesn't work if you don't scrub.
I buried a few cymbals out in this mound of dirt in my back yard a couple of years ago. I plan to unearth them in this summer. I also have a trombone buried as well.
The cymbsls are buried because I read some articles concerning this procedure and the T-bone is buried because I am going to turn it into a wall hanger for fake floral arrangements.
Needless to say... I don't clean cymbals. I experimented with that mess once using the ketchup method and then with some cymbal juice... way too painful (and the results were not that stellar). I would much rather clean a used flea market grease gun.
The Ajax and Toothpase are abrasives, not acids, so they will not do much unless you work them in.
I thought for ketchup cleaning you were just supposed to scrub it in and then rinse it. You could possibly get a different result if you try that.