I just realized your anvil is half of a 20 lbs dumbbell.... that's brilliant! My cymbal lathe uses a 6:1 geared, 1HP motor and I still have the same problem of "not enough torque". You really do need a minimum of about 2 HP to get anything done without too much headache. That being said.... a 1/4 HP setup is fine for light cutting, resurfacing, removing lacquer or sand polishing cymbals. The fundamental pitch of the hats after modification is significantly lower and much darker with an "old style jazzy" B20 sound. I'm curious to see what else you've done to these... hopefully not too much because they sound pretty darn good as is!!! I just recommend using a proper cartridge respirator if you do any sand polishing because fine metal particulate dust is EXTREMELY BAD for the lungs!
+LanceCampeau haha yeah, just cut off one end, drilled a hole in the stump and plopped it in! But of course Its extremely soft. but yeah I got all the safety stuff on, ears, eyes, and respirator. I was gonna cut them up to use for something else, but I think ill wait to find another set of hats!
I'm 50 years old and I'm not a massive fan of the whole idea of the Google and internet taking over our and my every thought but this is the type of thing I find so reassuring about how people come together over projects and do third own diy projects,love it,real living,with external input👌
Cool man.. Love your vids... my buddy and I do some basic cymbal ...rehabing .. in my shop.. just cutting up broken stuff to re-use in whatever application.. But anyway.. Nice job.. those actually sound like a 1950's style hats.. the old swishy trashy sound .. even like Buddy Rich hats.. nice.
I’ve been watching your videos for about six months or so now and I have to say that the one thing I consistently love is how you see (and are aware of) what people will negatively comment on, and immediately call it out before the people get a chance to comment LOL very much something I think I would do if I made videos myself! Those high hats sound sick! Way better sounding then the ones I have!
i worked on what used to be an 16"AAX after a nasty crack I traced an almost perfect circle on it with an muffler pad, i cut it by hand with some sheet metal cutters, and after that I randomly drilled about 35 1/2" holes and I love the new trashy sound it produces now. I now have a 10"splash that used to be another 16" or 18" crash that is way too ringy for my taste. I've been wanting to hammer it out to shorten the decay. I don't have the tools to lathe it out, but I'm willing to sacrifice it. thanks for a great video. i do like the sound on the after better. thanks
Wow, what a difference! Nice job, especially considering you were learning as you went. Thanks for taking the time to make the video along with your process!
Your channel is rad man, I love that you just go nuts and experiment on everything! Really interesting to watch plus you're a tight drummer too! Keep up the good work and I'll try and help spread your channel with my friends!
I don't know Dave, for a guy who keeps saying "I don't know what I am doing here", I think you did a great job on those Cymbals. It's to bad you hammered them, Prior to the hammering you made them look like they just rolled out of the factory, I honestly don't know how the hammering changes their sound, but I thought they sounded fairly good. I also think the thinner the cymbal, ( If they are a quality cymbal to begin with ) The better the sound.
Great Video. There is a guy in NYC that has started doing this for people. He's making cymbals but most of his work is reconditioning cymbals. I think it's turning into a great business. Def. sounds like a ton of fun.
Well done. If it were me, the narration would be, “...and here is where I cut my finger off” “...and This is when I used the hammer to smash my camera into bits” so, well done indeed.
Hey man... that was really cool of you to show everything there.... I like your thinking process there.... i was the drummer with Pink Hearse until this week... a female fronted horror punk band here in UK.... i'm ALWAYS breaking cymbals..... Good few ideas you gave me there dude..... thanks for posting this...:-)
and yeah.... it's up to the person playing and those listening to decide if they sound good......not the factory they came from..... i STILL have cymbals that sound 'better' by being cracked/damaged.... don't use them much because they are fragile now but they sound 'cool as tits'
The originals sound crisper and brighter - more of an 'A' sound, the lathed cymbals have a warmer, old school sound, more like an old 'K'. Both sound fine, depends what you like.
The Sabian tour of the Master's came to town and can remember them reworking B8 cymbals(hammering/lathing) upon cymbal owners request and sounded absolutely amazing!
I really do enjoy the "after" much better. Much more dry and much more...uhm...professional sounding? I think? Something you'd hear in a recording studio setting. Nice and dry :)
+Cameron Walega Quite a few lines from Paiste are B8 bronze, but worked properly and not stamped like Sabian B8's. It is a brighter allow, but if done right, it can sound very nice.
A few years ago I tried to re-forge a pst 5 hi hat but I did not have the right hammer and anvil. Now I have a tool that would make the right hammer out of the ordinary and I remembered again about this idea
I like how they sound after the rework, bright and trashy... excellent for Funk and Jazz. Nice work with that homemade lathe and tool. Overall, the project is an Awesome job!
One thing I've learned over the years from modifying cheap cymbals (all part of the learning process) is the more you hammer them, the trashier they sound.... they get a china/trashy gong kind of sound to them, which actually is kind of cool because it is hard to find those really old school kind of sounding cymbals these days. My brother asked my one day why it is so hard to get drums to sound like they did in the 50's and 60's on recordings and I told him that part of it has to do with the actual heads and cymbals that existed then vs. now. the Advent of loud electric instruments meant that cymbals and drumheads had to evolve to keep up with the demand for more volume from drummers. On top of that, drummers tuned to higher pitches in most instances, and they had better microphones and very few studios had channel EQ... and I am a firm believer that Channel EQ allowed companies to make cheaper microphones.... in the old days you had aall those beautiful Neumann, Telefunken, etc Tube Mic's, and old school Ribbon mics but virtually no EQ - it was all about mic selection, placement, and tuning. So, I say this was a cool change because, just like your hammered snare project, it gives you some individual sounds that nobody else will have.
And I was entertained. Why? Because your actions are what take things to the next level. Even your setup to do the lathing is laudable. Wasn't pretty, but it worked. That's what counts. I subscribed to your page because I enjoy seeing people take things to the next level. Everything we enjoy today is because of combined efforts. Think about the first light bulb and look at what we have today because of people not being satisfied and wanting more. Look at the first drum kits and where we are today. Not every attempt will be successful, but without aspirations we become stagnant.
I made the same mistake of thinking the round side of the hammer would work better, but actually the broader flat side usually gives better results. (The Turkish hammers are even broader and flatter on the striking side, with really rounded edges to prevent putting cuts in the cymbal.) your lathing was awesome, and I wonder how it would sound if you lathed after hammering instead of before….
"Hopefully the molecules have found their new homes" omg 😂😂
take a shot every time david says "so yeah"
I didn't hear him
You'd pull a john bonham.
Oh boy... lol
Alcohol poisoning
You better pay for my hospital bills
Wow dude, they really sound better after. They are totally usable after. Love your narration.
Holy shit man I watch your videos, you inspire me to find my own sound and not be lazy
They sound like a lighter washier 2002! Amazing.
I like the tonal quality of the beard...
Gabriel DeStellano neck beards are gay now they are waxing moustaches. even more gayer
That lathing was so satisfying.
+Drum Beats Online Indeed, I wanted to keep going but then there would be no cymbal left haha
Hi Gabe
Yoooooo Gabe!!
@@rdavidr lol
Hey by David are try to buy some Paiste hi-hats a 16-inch paiste Crash and a 20in paiste ride
the new version looks and sounds better. They sound more jazzy and mellowed
Hey I got a strange idea why not make your own custom snare wires I have no clue how they are made and I would like to see you make some.
take some springs and stretch em out?
@Uqpaa Handy No need to be a jerk.
Uqpaa Handy you’re*
Uqpaa Handy actually no it’s not.
Uqpaa Handy “ur” is a combining form you moron. Learn English
I just realized your anvil is half of a 20 lbs dumbbell.... that's brilliant! My cymbal lathe uses a 6:1 geared, 1HP motor and I still have the same problem of "not enough torque". You really do need a minimum of about 2 HP to get anything done without too much headache. That being said.... a 1/4 HP setup is fine for light cutting, resurfacing, removing lacquer or sand polishing cymbals. The fundamental pitch of the hats after modification is significantly lower and much darker with an "old style jazzy" B20 sound. I'm curious to see what else you've done to these... hopefully not too much because they sound pretty darn good as is!!! I just recommend using a proper cartridge respirator if you do any sand polishing because fine metal particulate dust is EXTREMELY BAD for the lungs!
+LanceCampeau haha yeah, just cut off one end, drilled a hole in the stump and plopped it in! But of course Its extremely soft. but yeah I got all the safety stuff on, ears, eyes, and respirator. I was gonna cut them up to use for something else, but I think ill wait to find another set of hats!
Do you think they sound better?
Yeah they sound a lot nicer!!
I like them lol, they sound airer to me... if that makes sense to you 😂
wayyy better
+rdavidr They sound like thin jazz hats from the 40s. Could be lucrative... !?
Darker after and darker = better
They sound good. Really like your "fuck it, im gonna do this my way" attitude. Keep it up man. Love the jam at the end too.
This guy is not afraid to fail, yet mostly succeeds! Congrats on ur projects
I always laugh when you say "So, yeah..." lol.
+Petar Pavasović haha i say it way to much
+rdavidr Time to trademark a catchphrase!
+rdavidr yeah... so...yeah
I'm 50 years old and I'm not a massive fan of the whole idea of the Google and internet taking over our and my every thought but this is the type of thing I find so reassuring about how people come together over projects and do third own diy projects,love it,real living,with external input👌
man they sounded so much better after, nice job
Dude, you're the gangster drummer firing off rounds at your cymbals! That's a first for me to see!
All that space on that cymbal and you made the world's smallest clock . Great video I'm glad someone has a workshop to do diy projects like this
I was going to say, "Whatever hit this cymbal" - I was going to say, "looks to me like about a thirty-caliber - then I watched more of video :)
Cool man.. Love your vids... my buddy and I do some basic cymbal ...rehabing .. in my shop.. just cutting up broken stuff to re-use in whatever application.. But anyway.. Nice job.. those actually sound like a 1950's style hats.. the old swishy trashy sound .. even like Buddy Rich hats.. nice.
"I let em sit for 10 days, So hopefully the molecules have found their new homes"
I really like your video editing. You give a clear presentation between before and after that is lacking in a lot of other videos.
I’ve been watching your videos for about six months or so now and I have to say that the one thing I consistently love is how you see (and are aware of) what people will negatively comment on, and immediately call it out before the people get a chance to comment LOL very much something I think I would do if I made videos myself! Those high hats sound sick! Way better sounding then the ones I have!
They sounded good before AND after! They sounded different, but sounded pretty good either way.
Those hats sound BAD ASS!!! They sound like old school zildjians. Mind blown. They sound amazing!!!! Love the way they sound now!!!
Ps- take those shavings and put them on your welder’s ground clamp. Makes a killer ground connection. We use wire scraps at work
David campeau
Those sound fantastic afterwards. I really dig them.
Kudos on the vid David. Quality editing and... love the Starclassic's!
i worked on what used to be an 16"AAX after a nasty crack I traced an almost perfect circle on it with an muffler pad, i cut it by hand with some sheet metal cutters, and after that I randomly drilled about 35 1/2" holes and I love the new trashy sound it produces now. I now have a 10"splash that used to be another 16" or 18" crash that is way too ringy for my taste. I've been wanting to hammer it out to shorten the decay. I don't have the tools to lathe it out, but I'm willing to sacrifice it. thanks for a great video. i do like the sound on the after better. thanks
Wow, what a difference! Nice job, especially considering you were learning as you went. Thanks for taking the time to make the video along with your process!
Dude your videos are great! Very entertaining. They are all I've been watching for like the past week.
Your channel is rad man, I love that you just go nuts and experiment on everything!
Really interesting to watch plus you're a tight drummer too!
Keep up the good work and I'll try and help spread your channel with my friends!
I don't know Dave, for a guy who keeps saying "I don't know what I am doing here", I think you did a great job on those Cymbals. It's to bad you hammered them, Prior to the hammering you made them look like they just rolled out of the factory, I honestly don't know how the hammering changes their sound, but I thought they sounded fairly good. I also think the thinner the cymbal, ( If they are a quality cymbal to begin with ) The better the sound.
Great Video. There is a guy in NYC that has started doing this for people. He's making cymbals but most of his work is reconditioning cymbals. I think it's turning into a great business. Def. sounds like a ton of fun.
7:41 They are not B8's anymore, they are artisan sabians right now!
The closed notes definitely sound better after the rework, but I think the open hits sound a little weaker.
Love the sound of the reworked ones. Dry but not overly dark.
Bruh, loving the incorporation of the hammering sound to introduce the next song
At first I was like: "What the hell is he doing, really?"
But after hearing the new sound I was like: "Oh gosh, now I wanna do this too!"
I love the new sound and a new look, the hammered look is awesome
Definitely look and SOUND much better!!! Awesome job man!!!
Well done. If it were me, the narration would be, “...and here is where I cut my finger off” “...and This is when I used the hammer to smash my camera into bits” so, well done indeed.
Hey man... that was really cool of you to show everything there.... I like your thinking process there.... i was the drummer with Pink Hearse until this week... a female fronted horror punk band here in UK.... i'm ALWAYS breaking cymbals..... Good few ideas you gave me there dude..... thanks for posting this...:-)
and yeah.... it's up to the person playing and those listening to decide if they sound good......not the factory they came from..... i STILL have cymbals that sound 'better' by being cracked/damaged.... don't use them much because they are fragile now but they sound 'cool as tits'
There's something so satisfying about lathing a cymbal
I didnt realize how much the hi-hat changes the mood of the whole kit. Also, I like the after result. It sounds more clean
The originals sound crisper and brighter - more of an 'A' sound, the lathed cymbals have a warmer, old school sound, more like an old 'K'. Both sound fine, depends what you like.
why do I find this so relaxing
sounds much more crisp. almost like a sand hat love it
Dave are you feeling okay? You're using more than one tom. I'm worried for you...
The Sabian tour of the Master's came to town and can remember them reworking B8 cymbals(hammering/lathing) upon cymbal owners request and sounded absolutely amazing!
I enjoy how he is adding more cymbals to him kit, and the 10" tom
well he's said he likes to keep a simple setup for gigs. I do The same but I like to keep a large setup at my house
Before: Rock
After: Jazz
All hail the hypno cymbal........
Pretty cool what you did with sort of random stuff. I've been binge watching since yesterday, and subbed.
I like how they sound darker. Very interesting. Love your videos man, keep it up!
That "washy" after sound is actually cool. :)
I really do enjoy the "after" much better. Much more dry and much more...uhm...professional sounding? I think? Something you'd hear in a recording studio setting. Nice and dry :)
+Cameron Walega Quite a few lines from Paiste are B8 bronze, but worked properly and not stamped like Sabian B8's. It is a brighter allow, but if done right, it can sound very nice.
I think they look A LOT better! The sound is more of a preference because they're too distinctly different sounds but I would take the after's anyday
i think they are sounding even better then last time
I love the sound. They sound nice and dark
personally i like the brighter sound better, i dont know why i just do. but i do love watching these videos and watching you work on things.
Great job! I love that vintage trashy sound.
I hooked my cymbol up to a drill, then used a vice to clamp down a sharpening stone to work the edge. Worked very well.
they definitely sound warmer. awesome
I think it sounds better. It actually eliminated some of that gongy sound. Great vid :)
A few years ago I tried to re-forge a pst 5 hi hat but I did not have the right hammer and anvil. Now I have a tool that would make the right hammer out of the ordinary and I remembered again about this idea
Am I the only one who thinks watching cymbal lathing is super satisfying?
Now they sound more like K-Custom Dark hats that I used to have. Good stuff man.
took me ages to realise the music in the video is your own. it's great!
i just like the repeated, "again, i dont know what im doing"
but this is awesome, id try it
Regrardless of the sound..the drumming, drum playing is excelllent!
Almost has a nice K/Z dry sound after. Nice!
I like how they sound after the rework, bright and trashy... excellent for Funk and Jazz.
Nice work with that homemade lathe and tool. Overall, the project is an Awesome job!
STANDING OVATION I HATE B8 but you really inspire me in a start a bisne in Mexico. you get it
WOW!! fantastic sound after the application well done man thank you for sharing.
Not sure if it sounds better, but it sure looks nicer! So shinyyyy 😍
What a much more interesting sound post-rework! Great job!
probably my favorite channel at the moment. I love you. : )
They sound like my B20 Dark hats.But more cutting and crashy.Nice job!
I love all the little corrections you do in your vids haha
good job on refinishing the cymbals, great video -thanks
probably my favourite youtuber right now! keep this stuff coming :)
One thing I've learned over the years from modifying cheap cymbals (all part of the learning process) is the more you hammer them, the trashier they sound.... they get a china/trashy gong kind of sound to them, which actually is kind of cool because it is hard to find those really old school kind of sounding cymbals these days. My brother asked my one day why it is so hard to get drums to sound like they did in the 50's and 60's on recordings and I told him that part of it has to do with the actual heads and cymbals that existed then vs. now. the Advent of loud electric instruments meant that cymbals and drumheads had to evolve to keep up with the demand for more volume from drummers. On top of that, drummers tuned to higher pitches in most instances, and they had better microphones and very few studios had channel EQ... and I am a firm believer that Channel EQ allowed companies to make cheaper microphones.... in the old days you had aall those beautiful Neumann, Telefunken, etc Tube Mic's, and old school Ribbon mics but virtually no EQ - it was all about mic selection, placement, and tuning.
So, I say this was a cool change because, just like your hammered snare project, it gives you some individual sounds that nobody else will have.
Great video. They definitely sound better after you worked on them. Darker and lower in pitch. Great stuff.
those hi hats Dave sound amazing I'd use them on my kit absolutely
They look cooler after, and it looks like you had fun!
Much better now. Good job!
And I was entertained. Why? Because your actions are what take things to the next level. Even your setup to do the lathing is laudable. Wasn't pretty, but it worked. That's what counts. I subscribed to your page because I enjoy seeing people take things to the next level. Everything we enjoy today is because of combined efforts. Think about the first light bulb and look at what we have today because of people not being satisfied and wanting more. Look at the first drum kits and where we are today. Not every attempt will be successful, but without aspirations we become stagnant.
For videos like this i support u with all my family from mexico, great rDavidr♡
Woah man you have 2 toms? Wow. Chill, chill, chill. Out.
Damn dude sick ass video, great music too! Interesting to watch, wish i had a workshop like that so i could experiment aswell :) Great Job !
I would love to see you make/ work on more cymbals!!!
You lathed down those cymbals to a nice new finish only to fingerprint them up while hammering. All cymbalsmiths wear gloves.
Brighter for sure. Good job!
I thought the opposite, dull before,bright after. They sound better though! Awesome video!!!!
They sound so much better afterwards! Well, to my ears anyway haha!
I died when you pointed out the clock.
I love what you're doing
Lance is probably smiling somewhere... in Canada.
I made the same mistake of thinking the round side of the hammer would work better, but actually the broader flat side usually gives better results. (The Turkish hammers are even broader and flatter on the striking side, with really rounded edges to prevent putting cuts in the cymbal.) your lathing was awesome, and I wonder how it would sound if you lathed after hammering instead of before….
That groove is so tight
This was super satisfying. I dunno why.