One of my splashes inverted itself at some time when I was playing outside. I reverted it, but one of my band members kept inverting it afterwards, because he liked that sound more then the original.
I missed the option of muffling the cymbals using two magnets (for instance those from Meinl). It's a great way of muffling and you can experiment easily looking for the right sound by moving them around the surface. Works great for my ride.
I really like the kitchen towel trick, if only it didn't look so ridiculous lol. I find myself in live situations in smaller room, where we want to maintain the energy of a rockin' live show but the result is just cymbals smashing everything else. Perhaps a tan towel, custom cut to each cymbal size could get the effect in small rooms without looking so shoddy.
About 1:33 . A free way to do that is simply put tape on the threads. Any tape will do but gaffers tape might be better so it doesn't leave any glue residue. Other than that cool video
you mentioned, that many hesitate to invert the cymbals bc they fear to break the cymbals ... even broken cymbals are very interesting sometimes, not only for stacking ... Steve Gadd already did this in the 70s ... there are even videos of him playing the big stage with Paul Simon where he uses a broken ride cymbal where roughly 1/5 to 1/4 of the cymbal is broken of
Dude. Using a pair of fast crash cymbals as hi hats is unconventionally brilliant. Love stacking the splashes as well. And goofing with your set is like putting a capo on a guitar, you'll play new things. Genius.
I’m not a drummer but i really like this videos so much because i love drumms. Epic content, keep it coming ☺️❤️ by the way you look like Rick Astley 😎
The kitchen towel on the ride shortens the sustain of it very nicely will have to try that myself thank you. also reminded me of the chain on the ride, so much inspiration for things from this.
I had a drummer one time do your Splash trick, but use an FX splash and keep them together pretty tightly, and it sounded almost EXACTLY like a midi "clap" sound. It was a really cool way to get that trashy fakey sounding 👏👏👏 that you hear sometimes in hip hop music, and as an effect.
I am a begginer drums enthusiast. I recognized at same time The sound of the inverted Splash. I knew The sound but did not know wich cymbal did it. Amazing video!!
What a great video! I loved these tips! I have tried adding a splash in random places but it never sounded how I wanted, but I didn’t think about some of these other possibilities, so I am definitely going to be playing around with all my cymbals in the coming days 👹
I have been trying to work on my push pull technique. Couldn't find a lesson about it on the site. Hope you guys can make one. Great video by the way. Keep them coming!
Even though It does work to put tapes on your cymbals, I tried it when I needed some muffling for studio work, it not so great idea because it’s really hard to take it back down. A specially if you forget it there, after a while it becomes impossible to peal it off, and leaves a mark on the cymbal. If you wanna maybe sell the cymbal or replace it it doesn’t look so good. I prefer to let them ring or yeah sometimes use a towel or a small piece of cloth to take it down a bit.
for the muffling, I think it'd be interesting for recording do one take of the song with tape on the cymbals and then another with towels or something on the drums and mix them together
interesting vid. I've heard of cloth for drum but not cymbals. I could see using cloth on cymbals though for quieter practice, but otherwise, nah. I've heard of moongel too, but haven't tried it. I think it would tame certain frequencies, and would depend on placement on the surface.
Don’t really know if this comment has been made already, if yes, I’m sorry! But… I have been told that using duct tape to muffle cymbals is actually somewhat “dangerous” since it prevents the cymbals from swinging as freely as they naturally would. By interrupting this “natural swinging wave” the cymbals can easily crack. That being said, I’m more of a hard hitter, so maybe that’s a difference. What I did in a live situation where my cymbals were too loud: I used Moongels close to the bells to dampen them a bit. Worked really great!
Using Moongels on cymbals is something I have also done to great effect. I like it better than tape for a few reasons. It is easier to move around to different spots on the cymbal and to take off all together when doing studio work. If it leaves any sort of residue, which it usually doesn't, it is easy to wipe off (I use Trick drum polish for that typically). And of course, moving a Moongel from a cymbal to a different cymbal, or from a cymbal to a drum only takes a few seconds so, it is easy to use, versatile, and for my preferences provides the right amount of dampening. Cool to see other people using this technique as well!
ich bin kein Drummer aber produzent und immer interessiert an neuen Sounds und möglichkeiten. habe auch selber becken, hihats und so es ist zwar kein richtiges "drusmet" was ich habe aber es geht schon, für meine Zwecke Cooles Video! ich kannte schon ein paar tricks aber nicht alle :) und die Drumbeats die zur vorführung dienen, sind wiiirklich groovy!
one of my favorites is bottom china 15" to 18" Top splash 8" to 10", now i have 15" sabian xtreme china bottom and the splash 10" from max stax also sabian top in a remote hihat pedal... really great, the china from the max stax 10" bottom have a 8" splash arborea top also like a hihat but in just one cymbal stand.
Yeah, we use tapes or blankets to make drum sounds dry and tighter and why don’t we do it to cymbals? This video gave me some keys to new sounds. Thanks so much!
Your kit sounds like a dream. BTW the bath tub chain is something I've been using since 1978. Works best at thicker rides, like the 20" Zildjian ride I bought back then (and still use :-))
OMG! I can't thank u enough. I have just bought a China cymbal which sounds pretty good. However I was looki g for a trashy sound and mine does not sound as trashy as I would like it to. After placing a dodgy cymbal on top of the other...WoW, the trashy sound arises from hell. Still not perfect, but I am getti g Closer to what I was looking for. Maybe a lighter or smaller Splash Will do the job si ce the cymbal on top is quite large and heavy
Inverting small cymbals such splashes increases their vulnerability to cracking around the bell. Cymbals like chinas are hammered to sit that way in a less compromised state. My evidence is anecdotal but I've had/seen it happen a good few times so I discourage it with nice cymbals.
I sometimes use both of my 10" splash cymbals to make a stack, but it never sounded good. It always sounded dead. I might try inverting one of them and see what difference it makes! Thanks for the tip!
oooof... i was experimenting since 2013... doing my own mini hats.. dry af splashes.. hammering down my old hats to a high (top) pitch and bottom (low) pitch chinas converted my old 20" ride to a darker china then went to pair it with the old high top hat now china then i thought it was a close enough to Luke's bullet stack...
Have the same towels, they look rad. Do they sound vintage of I don't wash them after cleaning my plates? Would love to convert my generic cheap cymbals and add some original patina :D
try putting ball bearings inside your hi-hat and keep it closed for obvious reasons it might create a unique sound im not a drummer though and i dont have a set to try it out
@9:30 this is my worst nightmare and why i can't buy a hi hat without trying it, i havent found gaffer tape to make much difference. A very prominent (and annoying overtone example: Jack Johnson's Wasting time) :)
Hey I have a Idea Can you try to make a Drumset whats Sounds Like Darkthrone on The Last Album Fenriz is a very awsome Drummer and He Had a Lot of Sounds but i Like The one from The lates Album The Most
One of my splashes inverted itself at some time when I was playing outside.
I reverted it, but one of my band members kept inverting it afterwards, because he liked that sound more then the original.
I have an inverted splay with a regular splash ontop as a stack and it is super quick and cutting
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Another way to do the sizzling ride is with a chain of paper clips.
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@@larifari2467 thanks. I think
I missed the option of muffling the cymbals using two magnets (for instance those from Meinl). It's a great way of muffling and you can experiment easily looking for the right sound by moving them around the surface. Works great for my ride.
We need more Videos with Andi playing! He‘s one of my favorit drummers.
Awww 😄❤️
Zultan cymbals are incredible!!! First time seeing a big channel like yours using them, it's great!!!
The coin on the ride cymbol really sounded the best!
His playing is highly Benny-inspired! Love it!
I really like the kitchen towel trick, if only it didn't look so ridiculous lol. I find myself in live situations in smaller room, where we want to maintain the energy of a rockin' live show but the result is just cymbals smashing everything else. Perhaps a tan towel, custom cut to each cymbal size could get the effect in small rooms without looking so shoddy.
I made a hi hat out of two rides.
Absolutely absurd! Thank you!
2 flat rides i bet!🤣
About 1:33 . A free way to do that is simply put tape on the threads. Any tape will do but gaffers tape might be better so it doesn't leave any glue residue. Other than that cool video
Thanks for the Tip!
In my experience, cymbals wear through tape pretty quickly, though.
Yes brother ! The inverted splash cymbal / stacked on a China…seriously just changed my sonic landscape. THNAK YOU.
Great! Have fun playing around with this idea! :)
Those Zultan cymbals sounds pretty dang good, mate
you mentioned, that many hesitate to invert the cymbals bc they fear to break the cymbals ...
even broken cymbals are very interesting sometimes, not only for stacking ...
Steve Gadd already did this in the 70s ...
there are even videos of him playing the big stage with Paul Simon where he uses a broken ride cymbal where roughly 1/5 to 1/4 of the cymbal is broken of
Good point 👍🏻
Dude. Using a pair of fast crash cymbals as hi hats is unconventionally brilliant. Love stacking the splashes as well. And goofing with your set is like putting a capo on a guitar, you'll play new things. Genius.
I’m not a drummer but i really like this videos so much because i love drumms. Epic content, keep it coming ☺️❤️ by the way you look like Rick Astley 😎
Thanks so much Daniel! Which Instrument do you play?
He's no stranger to drums...
Ah the kitchen towel trick! Used it many times when needing to damp the trums a couple of times.
@@ricardoconqueso he knows the grooves and so do I
Become one 🙂
The kitchen towel on the ride shortens the sustain of it very nicely will have to try that myself thank you. also reminded me of the chain on the ride, so much inspiration for things from this.
Nice to see some love for Zultan!
I had a drummer one time do your Splash trick, but use an FX splash and keep them together pretty tightly, and it sounded almost EXACTLY like a midi "clap" sound. It was a really cool way to get that trashy fakey sounding 👏👏👏 that you hear sometimes in hip hop music, and as an effect.
the zultan sounded so good inverted, wow.
I am a begginer drums enthusiast. I recognized at same time The sound of the inverted Splash. I knew The sound but did not know wich cymbal did it. Amazing video!!
What a great video! I loved these tips! I have tried adding a splash in random places but it never sounded how I wanted, but I didn’t think about some of these other possibilities, so I am definitely going to be playing around with all my cymbals in the coming days 👹
The kitchen towel muffling idea was super helpful and made my cheap ride sound a lot better. thanks.
The creativity is just exceptional!
Very nicely organized. I just can't bend one of my Zildjian splashes
I have been trying to work on my push pull technique. Couldn't find a lesson about it on the site. Hope you guys can make one. Great video by the way. Keep them coming!
Gordy Knudtson has an awesome video series on yt about open/close technique👍
Thanks dude! I will check it out
Secret weapons for the modern drummer
I need to repeat the intro many times just lovin the fills.
😃
love you videos , very useful for studio recordings and variety , keep going
Thanks a lot 👍🏻
You might have the most beautiful array of cymbals I've ever seen
7:10 there is third option take old snare wires, cut them in half and fix that on top of the cymbal.
Oh man. I love those inverted splashes. Sound almost like baby chinas.
Nice brother God bless you
Really like these hacks.... gonna use them at church, I think. Add a little spice to the songs!
The JoJo Mayer custom pedal in the intro is a VERY nice bit of kit
Even though It does work to put tapes on your cymbals, I tried it when I needed some muffling for studio work, it not so great idea because it’s really hard to take it back down. A specially if you forget it there, after a while it becomes impossible to peal it off, and leaves a mark on the cymbal. If you wanna maybe sell the cymbal or replace it it doesn’t look so good. I prefer to let them ring or yeah sometimes use a towel or a small piece of cloth to take it down a bit.
for the muffling, I think it'd be interesting for recording
do one take of the song with tape on the cymbals and then another with towels or something on the drums and mix them together
If I find nice looking towels, I´d try them out!
rdavidr energy from this
👋😃
first time to be here in your channel and i must say these are good stuff. great drumming man!
interesting vid. I've heard of cloth for drum but not cymbals. I could see using cloth on cymbals though for quieter practice, but otherwise, nah. I've heard of moongel too, but haven't tried it. I think it would tame certain frequencies, and would depend on placement on the surface.
Phenomenal playing!! Hats off!
I freaked out when he inverted that splash.
I yelled so loud my wife called from the other room, asking what's wrong.
Lol!
I can’t bring myself to do it. I paid enough for that splash to make me reluctant to break it. Maybe after a while I’ll get over my hang up.
😉
Those cymbals sound incredible. I don't say that easily.
is nobody gonna talk about how tasty plays this man? he's a beast
You can also use moon gel to muffle your symbols. This will help with the quick removal issue so you can take it off very quickly.
Don’t really know if this comment has been made already, if yes, I’m sorry! But…
I have been told that using duct tape to muffle cymbals is actually somewhat “dangerous” since it prevents the cymbals from swinging as freely as they naturally would. By interrupting this “natural swinging wave” the cymbals can easily crack. That being said, I’m more of a hard hitter, so maybe that’s a difference. What I did in a live situation where my cymbals were too loud: I used Moongels close to the bells to dampen them a bit. Worked really great!
Using Moongels on cymbals is something I have also done to great effect. I like it better than tape for a few reasons. It is easier to move around to different spots on the cymbal and to take off all together when doing studio work. If it leaves any sort of residue, which it usually doesn't, it is easy to wipe off (I use Trick drum polish for that typically). And of course, moving a Moongel from a cymbal to a different cymbal, or from a cymbal to a drum only takes a few seconds so, it is easy to use, versatile, and for my preferences provides the right amount of dampening. Cool to see other people using this technique as well!
GREAT ADVICE!
I use my ride cymbal as a crash ride sound pretty good ngl
Kompliment, klasse Ideen, die der Kreativität freinen Lauf lassen. Werde demnächst mal einiges ausprobieren.
👍👍👍Gelungenes Video, Gruß Michael.
Geile Ideen! Werde ich heute abend direkt anwenden. Ich bin da echt nicht drauf gekommen einfach mehrere Becken übereinander. Du bist ein Genie! :D
Very sweet beats, love this. Great content
Thanks a lot! 👍🏻
Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed it.
ich bin kein Drummer aber produzent und immer interessiert an neuen Sounds und möglichkeiten. habe auch selber becken, hihats und so
es ist zwar kein richtiges "drusmet" was ich habe aber es geht schon, für meine Zwecke
Cooles Video! ich kannte schon ein paar tricks aber nicht alle :)
und die Drumbeats die zur vorführung dienen, sind wiiirklich groovy!
My gosh, when I see that cymbals😛🤑
I was doing this 20 years ago. Sometimes when I get a quiet gig I put a splash on top of the crash turn it into a short
great drumming!! the crash hihat idea sounded fantastic, i should try that out...
I use Moongel on my ride to calm it down....works great and no tape residue
one of my favorites is bottom china 15" to 18" Top splash 8" to 10", now i have 15" sabian xtreme china bottom and the splash 10" from max stax also sabian top in a remote hihat pedal... really great, the china from the max stax 10" bottom have a 8" splash arborea top also like a hihat but in just one cymbal stand.
hey I love the videos! Would appreciate it if you used a de-esser on the voice, it gets quite sharp sometimes :)
Yeah, we use tapes or blankets to make drum sounds dry and tighter and why don’t we do it to cymbals?
This video gave me some keys to new sounds. Thanks so much!
Your kit sounds like a dream.
BTW the bath tub chain is something I've been using since 1978. Works best at thicker rides, like the 20" Zildjian ride I bought back then (and still use :-))
Great hacks! Txs 🙏🏽
This video really helps, i was looking for it ❤❤❤
I have that same 10" Aja splash and its fantastic for stacking!
OMG! I can't thank u enough. I have just bought a China cymbal which sounds pretty good. However I was looki g for a trashy sound and mine does not sound as trashy as I would like it to.
After placing a dodgy cymbal on top of the other...WoW, the trashy sound arises from hell.
Still not perfect, but I am getti g Closer to what I was looking for.
Maybe a lighter or smaller Splash Will do the job si ce the cymbal on top is quite large and heavy
Thanks, pretty informative and interesting. Good drumming as well.
Inverting small cymbals such splashes increases their vulnerability to cracking around the bell. Cymbals like chinas are hammered to sit that way in a less compromised state. My evidence is anecdotal but I've had/seen it happen a good few times so I discourage it with nice cymbals.
That Setup is fire bro🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I sometimes use both of my 10" splash cymbals to make a stack, but it never sounded good. It always sounded dead. I might try inverting one of them and see what difference it makes! Thanks for the tip!
oooof... i was experimenting since 2013...
doing my own mini hats.. dry af splashes..
hammering down my old hats to a high (top) pitch and bottom (low) pitch chinas
converted my old 20" ride to a darker china then went to pair it with the old high top hat now china
then i thought it was a close enough to Luke's bullet stack...
Excellent tips; thank you!
Great video, very helpful!!! What are the drum dampeners you are using?
Great, really great, gddam useful, thank u guys so much!
To your right side, What is the cymbal with the smooth finish near the top, located left of the inverted china?
It sounds great!!
I inverted my ride cymbal and it became a backride cymbal.
😅
Great ideas. Have to buy more Splashes now! ;-)
Always good to have some splashes around 😄
Have the same towels, they look rad. Do they sound vintage of I don't wash them after cleaning my plates? Would love to convert my generic cheap cymbals and add some original patina :D
Some nice phrasing here....
1. The 16" Trash Hats sounds AWESOME!!!!
2. Your floor Tom sound is the TRUTH!!!!
Yeah! 👍🏻
Beautiful drum sound
Sehr coole Hacks. Mega Video!! :-)
What’s that silver cymbal? It’s absolutely gorgeous
You can find the full cymbal list in the description 👍🏻
Very useful🤘😉
Great muffling tips
i wonder what you can do with a zildjian planet z hats and crash/ride .
try putting ball bearings inside your hi-hat and keep it closed for obvious reasons it might create a unique sound im not a drummer though and i dont have a set to try it out
Great video, thanks for all the clever tips, really useful. You used better cymbals in your previous videos though, why didn’t you use them again?
i actually think they sound great, especially when you know their price!
@@pierreg8562 Didn’t know about the pricing, thanks for that perspective.
Actually I think they sound just as good and maybe even better.
+Taping on your ride cymbal's bell makes more crash sound!!
(But you can lose a little stick definition)
What are you using to dampen your drums??
🤩🙌🏻
God bless this helped a lot ✝️
I’ve been in a bunch of music videos and we always taped the bottoms of my cymbals so I’m not super loud
Heads to kitchen, cuts hole in towel... wife not happy. Thanks for the tips!
thanks!
@9:30 this is my worst nightmare and why i can't buy a hi hat without trying it, i havent found gaffer tape to make much difference. A very prominent (and annoying overtone example: Jack Johnson's Wasting time) :)
What is the piece of hardware you used to stack the splashes?
Is that a stainless steel cymbal?
👍👍👍
great video!
Hey
I have a Idea
Can you try to make a Drumset whats Sounds Like Darkthrone on The Last Album
Fenriz is a very awsome Drummer and He Had a Lot of Sounds but i Like The one from The lates Album The Most
That gaffa tape on the cymbals, really sounds bad hahah. To each his own