Watched it everyday for a month. After all the tripling the frequency of my drumming creates such a high pitch it made all the dogs in the neighborhood go nuts and I've had bats crashing into my windows.
If I triple my speed today, and then re-watch this video tomorrow does that mean I'll be able to hit nine times faster? Oh man, and then watch it again the day after tomorrow!
I like how he came in on a spaceship and dropped the mic on a great digestible lesson that everyone can comprehend. Even after a decade plus of playing I still have trouble with my hand technique but this breaks things down extremely well. Looking forward to going over the practice exercises
This is a great lesson and a very clear explanation of the Moeller technique. BUT, and it's a big but... I wish these guys would stop telling us that this is the only way to play fast single strokes. It's not. At 10:32 he says it's not possible to do it another way, but if you look at players like Damien Schmitt and Gergo Borlai, these guys have incredible speed and control and do not use cyclic Moeller movements. I was taught Moeller technique in the same way almost 20 years ago and it actually really harmed my playing by being told (similarly) that it's the "only" way to play the drums. Just keep an open mind and remember that any particular technique is just one tool in your box.
His arms look stiff when he says he can't do it, kinda fake looking and sabotaged, probably to push his point. But I think I would never use this technique because you can't do a single stroke consistently at the same dynamic.
Agreed. Buddy "stirred the soup" at his top speed with accents but he could smoke most guys with no moeller and just cruise forever without accents. The idea that you can only play fast using Moeller is nonsense.
Motions 2:30 The Thing You Were Looking For 6:00 Exercise (#1) 11:05 Exercise (#2) 12:11 Exercise (#3) 13:00 Exercise (#3-b) 14:20 More Info in descirption. 👆
I'm beginner from India Dentist by profession but love to play drums...Thankyou Miller sir and Drumeo for making such educational stuff for us to learn from.Thankyou once again really enjoyed your lessons....
I don't know about anyone else, but that was an awesome lesson & will carry anybody's speed & technique into a much better sounding, fluid & very dynamic that many drummers lack. It brings me so much joy & contentment to see a player that good, teaching the secrets of being a successful drummer, thank you!!! Sincerely, Jeff
"Lead from the elbow" is something I only heard from Gil Sharone till now, which just clicked in my mind and solved the mysteries of Moeller for me, but he talked about it just for 2-3 minutes in his Drumeo vid. This is a complete helpful tutorial to just that. Russ rep++
Its a fascinating lesson, as I was taught to NOT play with the elbow but with the wrist, as playing with elbow will be exhausting... It's going to be hard to adjust to this...
I'd agree!! I watched tons of these moellar technique videos but I had gotten nowhere. This video really helped especially the part where he started the video by emphasizing the strokes generated with arm muscles and elbow movement.
First off the drum rack is insanely overbuilt and beautiful and I love it 100% so freaking much. Also this is some nicely and eloquently put drum lessons on theory and almost philosophy on a specific technique and I really thank you a lot for creating this. You connected the emotional aspect to the playing aspect in a very understandable way to help everybody with the part that matters most, which is expressing feeling. Good shit dude!!
I haven’t played for 20 years and have a desire to play at home for pleasure again .... big thing for me.. this lesson is just fantastic, so well articulate and simply explained Thank you for doing this segment Russ just beautiful mate .... where’s my practise pads pant pant ;)
Thanks for the like We all know “back Then “ it’s gotta be fast gotta be the THING right ?! Nope no no no do it slow get the technique right or it’ll never be smooth it’ll never flow it’s stiff and a consistent struggle Check this even if you embrace 80 percent of this technique you’ll fly I’m 53 an man my sixes and double strokes are cruising like crazy Love y’all All the best Please check your technique schedule please Out
That kit is GORGEOUS 💯🔥🔥🔥 One of my finest moments @ a gig was when another drummer approached me. I was using a 4 pc kit, ride, hi hat, 2 crashes, single pedal. That was it. He approached me on a break & said, "dude..... HOW DO YOU get SOOO MANY different sounds from that kit?" Best compliment, in terms of being musical, i think ive gotten. That i can REALLY REMEMBER. this was literally 20 yrs ago
yeah love it! I play with single pedal 1 high and 1 floor tom 1 ride 1 crash to spare some space because I drum in a basement but I have a cowbell and on top of that a splash with gives you some more diffrent sounds with less used space
When I started playing the drums I was in the marching band in my high school and I learned a lot about technique and speed and I got to say this guy is spot on 100% correct you must learn these techniques it's very important I've been playing for 40 years now and I still learn from the best and this guy is top notch
As a self taught drummer long before the Internet, I figured out the molloer technique on my own. But after not playing for many years I'm thankful for you guys putting these great tips here for us guys who are constantly trying to get better at our craft
THANK YOU,THANK YOU I WISH I wish I had a teacher like you when I wanted to become a drummer. I am 65 years old now and never learned to play. My mother could not afford drums with six kids to feed on her own. I went on to become a great athlete . But as you can see even at my age now i STILL LOVE THE DRUMS. yOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST I love what you do,
Excellent lesson. The choppiest of drummers use these techniques to get their speed. Their endurance comes from constantly practicing these technique. Staying relaxed is key as well. Thanks for the killer tips, Russ.
Dude! This really helped me feel more relaxed playing. It seems more natural and less painful in the long run/instantly. Opened doors to move forward! Thank you!
This makes my day: Jim Chapinjj' remark on "the last note being like putting your finger a hot burner". Great way of describing a swift natural movement! Great material Drumeo and Russ Miller!
All of the fundamentals that my best Drum teacher taught me over the course of a year or so. Packaged into one 18 minute video. This stuff turned me from just some kid who plays the drums into a drummer all those years ago. If only I kept practicing 😅
Russ thank you for helping me see that there is far more than metal and heavy music. Your dvd was the first I have ever bought and I watched it day in and day out. Thank you man
Baden Fitzmaurice, New or old, I’d like to hear a side by side comparison to hear if they really make a difference for the money they cost $$$😬 I doubt the person in the 3rd row would know the difference.
Wow! So since I can already do alternating single stroke 16th notes at 200 BPM, easily for several measures, now I will be able to play 16th notes at 600 BPM ! thanks
For some people, myself for one, this technique can't be explained, or even shown. For me, I had to learn without knowing or realizing I had learned it. In other words, experience playing is the only way I could learn Moeller technique. I've been trained in music theory too early in my life, but still had to learn this technique thru experience. Awesome to know and very beneficial to ones playing ability to learn and know this.
Holy crap, too easy drill sergeant...this is incredible...I lost my right index finger in an accident a few years ago and changing to match grip with moeller strokes...life changer! Thank you!!!
Very helpful. I’m not a new player but after 45 minutes of doing this, I stopped and tried double paradiddles and played them noticeably faster than I have before. This is fun - thanks! (Postscript: your example roll at the end is not 140, so … more practice.)
Thanks to the Moeller technique, I was able to roll my sticks on tom tom pretty quickly. That's what my friend told me when he saw me performing with my bandmates.
Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing this!!!!! I have Rheumatoid Arthritis which has severely affected my hands and wrists over the years. Needless to say, speed does not come as easy as it did when I was a kid. I'm going to start working on this technique right away. Thank you again!!
The elbow up movement is absolutely key. I'm glad you pointed that out because I've been struggling with that moeller technique for weeks now and I think I wasn't doing enough of the whipping motion. Thanks again for the info!!
Excellent! I have been struggling to get the speed I need, then I came across this video this morning. Just got back from a 20 minute practice of this technique and all I can say is it works for me. So all I need now is more practice so it comes automatically, with the quality I want. :)
Great lesson, I already use the Moeller technique but I didn't realize how fast it can sound with one hand going what seems to be much slower. I've been really going crazy thinking I'd have to eventually get my one hand up super fast. But with the interplay I can see you can actually play quite relaxed an still get a really fast accented tempo.
Probably the best teaching on the push pull technique i have seen on drumeo or any drumm lesson website for that matter. Just like arm positioning and everything really great thanks a lot.
First time doing this, it’s so nice to have someone to do this along with, compared to going through excercises at arbitrary bpms and reading through stick control without any pressure to follow along with. Thank you! I’ll be doing this set of exercises regularly. This is my first year focusing on stick drumming, where I’ve spent a while on the MPC just fingerdrumming over the past 5 years or so, I feel so much more confident that I can improve by keeping up with routines like this one in between band practices on a daily basis. Again, thanks for these videos, looking forward to exploring more stick control routines as well!
I see where the intermediate or above player who wishes to build on good sticking and wants to excel would be able to master the instruction given here. I watched an hour YT presentation of Jim Chapin’s discussion of the Moeller Technique: worth every minute. Not only did it build the reasoning into using it, but Jim’s very engaging style made the minutes pass in a flash.
Very interesting. I was a percussion major back in the late 1960’s this is how I was taught waaaaay back then. While teaching I taught my students this “whipping” technique. And commonly used with ride/ hi-hat beats for a dotted rhythm getting 2 for 1. I will have to work on the 3. Yes, you can teach an old dog new tricks!
I've seen a few explanations of these moves but this, from where I sit is The Best and will be a great help to me Thanks Russ for putting it so clearly.
Always great lessons from these guys. Constructive criticism: I wish some of the instructors would show more on a matched grip as opposed to those focused with a traditional grip. I shattered my left wrist and unfortunately can't play a traditional grip. Love the technique and my current instructor is working with me but still primarily a traditional grip drummer. Thanks for posting and I follow religiously!
Interesting I had no clue this was a thing, but I’ve found myself using this exact technique to roll into fills in songs like hard to handle, didn’t even know what I was doing to make it happen until now, now I know how to practice it. Thanks
That's it! I always kept my elbows tucked! You're right, it works in only one day! Less than that actually. Now my elbow is sore because I really never worked it (like a beginner). So so much thanks! I feel so guilty that this lesson was free.
Thanks Russ, timing is everything and I definitely appreciate how many young drummers are going to dramatically increase their skills because your videos and therefore contribute so much more the the music they make.
I've watched other vids on Moeller technique before but I think this was the best and most succinct explanation I've seen of it. Can't wait to start practicing it, thanks!
WOW, amazing technique !!! I did know and use the Moeller technique. In fact, I used way before knowing it was called so, since I was a self-taught begginer back in the 90's, just because for me that "whipping" motion was very natural and efficient. Anyway, I used mostly with singles and doubles (playing mostly rock, that whiplash for the back beat on the snare when I wanted it to be loud is very natural and effective). However, I never used for triple strokes before. I've just watched this video and went to my e-kit to practice, and in just a few minutes I've noticed a huge improvement. I still need a lot of work to master it and make it sound as I want, but I already noticed a difference. The most difficult thing for now is to coordinate properly both hands, since I'm used to do more Moeller with my left hand (remember, back beat), than my right, but I'm feeling that in no time (as Russ said), the improvement will be awesome. I just felt the need to comment this right now in case anyone there is wondering if this is really as effective as Russ say.... for me the answer is "fuck yeah!!" Thanks a lot for this video, I'm excited for the next one and the feet application.... and I'm back to practice righ now....!!!! 😁😁😁
I had a professor at the university level teaching all of her students to play using all wrists. This immediately made my wrists uncomfortable and when I started using a different technique I was admonished for having uneven strokes though she herself never pointed out what about it was “uneven” needless to say I did it progress studying under her….. this is much more comfortable and drumeo is a much better teacher. Also Russ is a cool guy!
Fine Mr. Miller this demo is very important ,and your demonstration has helped me a lot, i continue to practice following all her advice carefully ,thanks you are a good teacher.
thanks drumeo for all these videos, im so greatful to learn more with this, just to imagine years ago itd be a lot more complicated to have this type of lessons. now with this material its way much easier and accesible
Great lesson, always the best way to play, with the names mentioned by our guy here, Chapin, moella etc. These guy's have been around for year's promoting the best way to play, always being ambassadors for the craft and bringing everyone playing drums on board with great views on drumming and always respectfully towards us all in our stages of development. Top drawer! Thanks. 🎼💙🥢🥁
wow, freddie gruber and jim chapin!!! what an awesome experience it must have been to learn from two legends, chapin especially!!! as soon as i discovered jim chapin, it became my dream to meet him! unfortunately it was too late:(
I also heard Russ say he studied with Gruber, a video on that would be appreciated as well. Gruber left hand technique really needs to be explained better than some other videos around on U-Tube. The whole see-saw left hand wrist motion with fingers opening and closing is limited by the angle degree a human wrist can move in that motion (50 degrees) versus 90 degrees with the palm turned down a bit. I saw Russ turn the wrist down a bit here when he moved to faster speed in the video. He switched to fingers and wrist angle changes. Talk about it.
That is the most heavy-duty looking drum hardware I have ever seen. Looks like part of a Transformer! Autobot or Decepticon? Great video, by the way...
Very interesting stuff Russ, thanks for sharing and well presented. I am nearly 64 and this is an eye opener in a way as I have never used my elbows like that but it all makes sense.
Great video. I understand the mechanics of the technique and it’s impressive on the snare. I’d like to see it applied to moving around the drum kit. Any videos like that? Thanks.
I cant inagine where sum of us older guys would be today had we had you tube when the internet 1st became public. Lord. 10 years earlier & man. But its still to cool to watch. Even if you dont really LEARN a technique, it def hleps you deveolope better ways to TEACH techniques. Which is why i watch everything i can.
Dang, this is a spot on video for me. I have struggled to break that proverbial ceiling of speed, and this might just be what I need to move past that and develop more independence and control. Thanks again Drumeo!
Thank you so very much for this beautiful lesson brother man! I have a perfected fast double stroke roll & I've been trying to get triplets with each hand by bouncing the sticks only little success but now I see it happening easily with this new technique & can't wait to try & master this! Appreciate Y💗U Brother! 👍😎🥁🎵🎵🎶🎵🎶
A great video, thank you! For the last years I was very obsessed about finger technique in French timpany grip. Now I´m staring to work hard on Moeller and your video is just perfect for that. And you really make it work. Amazing work!!!
Russ thank you for a incredibly valuable video that does not spend any time rubber necking with narcissistic B.S. You really transmit some very valuable information and I am just super impressed with every bit of it. Thanks again. BTW, consider me subscribed.
Learn wrist strokes as well. Buddy did what Russ is teaching here with whips, but he wasn't limited to this technique. Wrist technique makes all strokes sound even (no accent/ghost note) and when you developed this, it has more power & sounds smoother.
The one thing it was missing was the up stroke accent one, two, THREE, he touched on it briefly when he talked about Chapin and the hot plate. Great lesson.
Watched it everyday for a month. After all the tripling the frequency of my drumming creates such a high pitch it made all the dogs in the neighborhood go nuts and I've had bats crashing into my windows.
This is the first time I've seen a lesson on The Moeller technique, explaining how to play it properly between hands.
Nice one guys!
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That is not the Moeller Technique, it‘s based on moeller technique but thats not the original. You should check out Claus Hessler.
Bori
Kkkkkk the best of drums
Totally agree! Finally understand how it works between hands!
If I triple my speed today, and then re-watch this video tomorrow does that mean I'll be able to hit nine times faster? Oh man, and then watch it again the day after tomorrow!
I watched it for a month, my hands caught fire while playing.
@@Bruhxston i lost my hands cant play drums anymore vid deserves a dislike
Try a year maybe you’ll be 2 times faster
So I Tried that, and after 5 days its just one Solid note so u dont hear the single Hits anymore
*brain expansions noises*
I like how he came in on a spaceship and dropped the mic on a great digestible lesson that everyone can comprehend. Even after a decade plus of playing I still have trouble with my hand technique but this breaks things down extremely well. Looking forward to going over the practice exercises
Drumeo are unreal. The amount of tips, ideas and full lessons they post! Very inspiring content as always. This is a great lesson. Thanks!!👍🥁👏
This is a great lesson and a very clear explanation of the Moeller technique. BUT, and it's a big but... I wish these guys would stop telling us that this is the only way to play fast single strokes. It's not. At 10:32 he says it's not possible to do it another way, but if you look at players like Damien Schmitt and Gergo Borlai, these guys have incredible speed and control and do not use cyclic Moeller movements. I was taught Moeller technique in the same way almost 20 years ago and it actually really harmed my playing by being told (similarly) that it's the "only" way to play the drums. Just keep an open mind and remember that any particular technique is just one tool in your box.
His arms look stiff when he says he can't do it, kinda fake looking and sabotaged, probably to push his point. But I think I would never use this technique because you can't do a single stroke consistently at the same dynamic.
very true advice. becoming stuck in your ways, so to speak technique wise, can make things very challenging on down the road
Agreed. Buddy "stirred the soup" at his top speed with accents but he could smoke most guys with no moeller and just cruise forever without accents. The idea that you can only play fast using Moeller is nonsense.
Motions 2:30 The Thing You Were Looking For 6:00 Exercise (#1) 11:05 Exercise (#2) 12:11 Exercise (#3) 13:00 Exercise (#3-b) 14:20 More Info in descirption. 👆
Drumeo what drumhead os he using ?
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What a great technique!
You’re a fantastic instructor !!
Thanks for sharing !!!
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
I'm beginner from India Dentist by profession but love to play drums...Thankyou Miller sir and Drumeo for making such educational stuff for us to learn from.Thankyou once again really enjoyed your lessons....
I don't know about anyone else, but that was an awesome lesson & will carry anybody's speed & technique into a much better sounding, fluid & very dynamic that many drummers lack. It brings me so much joy & contentment to see a player that good, teaching the secrets of being a successful drummer, thank you!!! Sincerely, Jeff
"Lead from the elbow" is something I only heard from Gil Sharone till now, which just clicked in my mind and solved the mysteries of Moeller for me, but he talked about it just for 2-3 minutes in his Drumeo vid. This is a complete helpful tutorial to just that. Russ rep++
Thanks for sharing. :) Glad you liked the lesson, enjoy the drumming journey,
I'm trying, but feel like I'm flapping like a chicken!
Its a fascinating lesson, as I was taught to NOT play with the elbow but with the wrist, as playing with elbow will be exhausting... It's going to be hard to adjust to this...
Best explanation of this technique that I have heard in my 24 years of playing.
My thoughts exactly! I've seen this technique explained many times, by many drummers. This was, by far, the best yet...
I'd agree!! I watched tons of these moellar technique videos but I had gotten nowhere. This video really helped especially the part where he started the video by emphasizing the strokes generated with arm muscles and elbow movement.
Is this the technique you would use for a hands together triplet fill, like in a schuffle?
He should know after studying with Chapin who studied with Moller
This guy is a very good teacher. Explains things slowly and thoroughly.
First off the drum rack is insanely overbuilt and beautiful and I love it 100% so freaking much. Also this is some nicely and eloquently put drum lessons on theory and almost philosophy on a specific technique and I really thank you a lot for creating this. You connected the emotional aspect to the playing aspect in a very understandable way to help everybody with the part that matters most, which is expressing feeling. Good shit dude!!
I haven’t played for 20 years and have a desire to play at home for pleasure again .... big thing for me.. this lesson is just fantastic, so well articulate and simply explained
Thank you for doing this segment Russ just beautiful mate .... where’s my practise pads pant pant ;)
Thanks for the like
We all know “back Then “ it’s gotta be fast gotta be the THING right ?!
Nope no no no do it slow get the technique right or it’ll never be smooth it’ll never flow it’s stiff and a consistent struggle
Check this even if you embrace 80 percent of this technique you’ll fly I’m 53 an man my sixes and double strokes are cruising like crazy
Love y’all
All the best
Please check your technique schedule please
Out
That kit is GORGEOUS 💯🔥🔥🔥
One of my finest moments @ a gig was when another drummer approached me. I was using a 4 pc kit, ride, hi hat, 2 crashes, single pedal. That was it. He approached me on a break & said, "dude..... HOW DO YOU get SOOO MANY different sounds from that kit?"
Best compliment, in terms of being musical, i think ive gotten. That i can REALLY REMEMBER. this was literally 20 yrs ago
yeah love it! I play with single pedal 1 high and 1 floor tom 1 ride 1 crash to spare some space because I drum in a basement but I have a cowbell and on top of that a splash with gives you some more diffrent sounds with less used space
Russ was my DRUM teacher in FL - Wow, he made it.
That's awesome!
That was a really well paced and narrated lesson on the technique👍
When I started playing the drums I was in the marching band in my high school and I learned a lot about technique and speed and I got to say this guy is spot on 100% correct you must learn these techniques it's very important I've been playing for 40 years now and I still learn from the best and this guy is top notch
As a self taught drummer long before the Internet, I figured out the molloer technique on my own.
But after not playing for many years I'm thankful for you guys putting these great tips here for us guys who are constantly trying to get better at our craft
THANK YOU,THANK YOU I WISH I wish I had a teacher like you when I wanted to become a drummer. I am 65 years old now and never learned to play. My mother could not afford drums with six kids to feed on her own. I went on to become a great athlete . But as you can see even at my age now i STILL LOVE THE DRUMS. yOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST I love what you do,
I was in the Air Force, I recognize those tom mounts! They're off of the bomb bay doors from a B-52!
Excellent lesson. The choppiest of drummers use these techniques to get their speed. Their endurance comes from constantly practicing these technique. Staying relaxed is key as well. Thanks for the killer tips, Russ.
That for me, was the most useful drum lesson I’ve seen so far anywhere.
Thank you so much.
Its always a good day when Drumeo posts
Tokio Hotel represent
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EXACTLY
Dude! This really helped me feel more relaxed playing. It seems more natural and less painful in the long run/instantly. Opened doors to move forward! Thank you!
This makes my day: Jim Chapinjj' remark on "the last note being like putting your finger a hot burner". Great way of describing a swift natural movement!
Great material Drumeo and Russ Miller!
All of the fundamentals that my best Drum teacher taught me over the course of a year or so. Packaged into one 18 minute video. This stuff turned me from just some kid who plays the drums into a drummer all those years ago. If only I kept practicing 😅
Russ thank you for helping me see that there is far more than metal and heavy music.
Your dvd was the first I have ever bought and I watched it day in and day out.
Thank you man
Imo, this lesson has been the best I have seen from Drumeo (and anyone else for that matter) Thank you.
How many terminators did it cost to make those tom arms
Just one.
That's some funny shit right there 😆 it does look like a T-800 is holding those toms!
I've seen them on a few videos recently, but not before. Are they something new?
Baden Fitzmaurice,
New or old, I’d like to hear a side by side comparison to hear if they really make a difference for the money they cost $$$😬
I doubt the person in the 3rd row would know the difference.
Don't know, but what an affective way to completely ruin the look of an otherwise gorgeous kit.
Incredible. First time I've seen this explained so well.
Wow! So since I can already do alternating single stroke 16th notes at 200 BPM, easily for several measures, now I will be able to play 16th notes at 600 BPM ! thanks
The best explanation of the Moeller method on RUclips. Congratulations!
For some people, myself for one, this technique can't be explained, or even shown. For me, I had to learn without knowing or realizing I had learned it. In other words, experience playing is the only way I could learn Moeller technique. I've been trained in music theory too early in my life, but still had to learn this technique thru experience. Awesome to know and very beneficial to ones playing ability to learn and know this.
Holy crap, too easy drill sergeant...this is incredible...I lost my right index finger in an accident a few years ago and changing to match grip with moeller strokes...life changer! Thank you!!!
Very helpful. I’m not a new player but after 45 minutes of doing this, I stopped and tried double paradiddles and played them noticeably faster than I have before. This is fun - thanks! (Postscript: your example roll at the end is not 140, so … more practice.)
Thanks to the Moeller technique, I was able to roll my sticks on tom tom pretty quickly. That's what my friend told me when he saw me performing with my bandmates.
Drumeo is great! They inspired my drum instruction 🙌🏽
Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing this!!!!! I have Rheumatoid Arthritis which has severely affected my hands and wrists over the years. Needless to say, speed does not come as easy as it did when I was a kid. I'm going to start working on this technique right away. Thank you again!!
The elbow up movement is absolutely key. I'm glad you pointed that out because I've been struggling with that moeller technique for weeks now and I think I wasn't doing enough of the whipping motion. Thanks again for the info!!
I love when the guy casually mentions, “yeah, so I took lessons from Jim Chapin... AND Freddy Gruber.”
FML.
And you are taking a lesson with him. 😉
Drumeo more of a public masterclass
I studied with. FREDDIE GRUBER from APRIL 1969 to just before his death And I will tell you this: .... “pop -drop -up”! And so much more
Probably the best video I've seen on the Moeller technique...he does an excellent job explaining this
Thank goodness....somebody finally demystifies the dark art of the moeller technique in a way which my brain can understand thank you Drumeo
Mueller technique GREATLY improved my drumming years ago.
Excellent! I have been struggling to get the speed I need, then I came across this video this morning. Just got back from a 20 minute practice of this technique and all I can say is it works for me. So all I need now is more practice so it comes automatically, with the quality I want. :)
Wish I could see Russ miller more he’s been the real deal for a while.... thanks
Great lesson, I already use the Moeller technique but I didn't realize how fast it can sound with one hand going what seems to be much slower. I've been really going crazy thinking I'd have to eventually get my one hand up super fast. But with the interplay I can see you can actually play quite relaxed an still get a really fast accented tempo.
Probably the best teaching on the push pull technique i have seen on drumeo or any drumm lesson website for that matter. Just like arm positioning and everything really great thanks a lot.
First time doing this, it’s so nice to have someone to do this along with, compared to going through excercises at arbitrary bpms and reading through stick control without any pressure to follow along with. Thank you! I’ll be doing this set of exercises regularly. This is my first year focusing on stick drumming, where I’ve spent a while on the MPC just fingerdrumming over the past 5 years or so, I feel so much more confident that I can improve by keeping up with routines like this one in between band practices on a daily basis. Again, thanks for these videos, looking forward to exploring more stick control routines as well!
I see where the intermediate or above player who wishes to build on good sticking and wants to excel would be able to master the instruction given here. I watched an hour YT presentation of Jim Chapin’s discussion of the Moeller Technique: worth every minute. Not only did it build the reasoning into using it, but Jim’s very engaging style made the minutes pass in a flash.
Wow it’s about time! The video is pretty much over
Very interesting. I was a percussion major back in the late 1960’s this is how I was taught waaaaay back then. While teaching I taught my students this “whipping” technique. And commonly used with ride/ hi-hat beats for a dotted rhythm getting 2 for 1. I will have to work on the 3. Yes, you can teach an old dog new tricks!
I've seen a few explanations of these moves but this,
from where I sit is The Best
and will be a great help to me
Thanks Russ for putting it so clearly.
Always great lessons from these guys. Constructive criticism: I wish some of the instructors would show more on a matched grip as opposed to those focused with a traditional grip. I shattered my left wrist and unfortunately can't play a traditional grip. Love the technique and my current instructor is working with me but still primarily a traditional grip drummer.
Thanks for posting and I follow religiously!
Interesting I had no clue this was a thing, but I’ve found myself using this exact technique to roll into fills in songs like hard to handle, didn’t even know what I was doing to make it happen until now, now I know how to practice it. Thanks
That's it! I always kept my elbows tucked! You're right, it works in only one day! Less than that actually. Now my elbow is sore because I really never worked it (like a beginner). So so much thanks! I feel so guilty that this lesson was free.
Thanks Russ, timing is everything and I definitely appreciate how many young drummers are going to dramatically increase their skills because your videos and therefore contribute so much more the the music they make.
Great advice. This is perhaps the most important building block of advanced drumming.
This video just changed the rest of my drum career. Tnx drumeo
Met Russ Miller once while I was taking a lesson from Zoro. Many, many moons ago...Sounding good as always Mr. Miller.
I've watched other vids on Moeller technique before but I think this was the best and most succinct explanation I've seen of it. Can't wait to start practicing it, thanks!
"succinct" you could cut 70% of his waffle out.
WOW, amazing technique !!!
I did know and use the Moeller technique. In fact, I used way before knowing it was called so, since I was a self-taught begginer back in the 90's, just because for me that "whipping" motion was very natural and efficient. Anyway, I used mostly with singles and doubles (playing mostly rock, that whiplash for the back beat on the snare when I wanted it to be loud is very natural and effective). However, I never used for triple strokes before. I've just watched this video and went to my e-kit to practice, and in just a few minutes I've noticed a huge improvement. I still need a lot of work to master it and make it sound as I want, but I already noticed a difference. The most difficult thing for now is to coordinate properly both hands, since I'm used to do more Moeller with my left hand (remember, back beat), than my right, but I'm feeling that in no time (as Russ said), the improvement will be awesome.
I just felt the need to comment this right now in case anyone there is wondering if this is really as effective as Russ say.... for me the answer is "fuck yeah!!"
Thanks a lot for this video, I'm excited for the next one and the feet application.... and I'm back to practice righ now....!!!! 😁😁😁
*_I wish I had this information when I fist started 30 yrs ago._* 👀😎
I had a professor at the university level teaching all of her students to play using all wrists. This immediately made my wrists uncomfortable and when I started using a different technique I was admonished for having uneven strokes though she herself never pointed out what about it was “uneven” needless to say I did it progress studying under her….. this is much more comfortable and drumeo is a much better teacher. Also Russ is a cool guy!
This is the best explanation I've heard man, thanks a million!
Fine Mr. Miller this demo is very important ,and your demonstration has helped me a lot, i continue to practice following all her advice carefully ,thanks you are a good teacher.
Nice lesson! It was hard not to stare at those massive tom holders 😂
This is what I’m actually struggling with, so thank you for this great lesson.
Cheers
thanks drumeo for all these videos, im so greatful to learn more with this, just to imagine years ago itd be a lot more complicated to have this type of lessons. now with this material its way much easier and accesible
Great lesson, always the best way to play, with the names mentioned by our guy here, Chapin, moella etc.
These guy's have been around for year's promoting the best way to play, always being ambassadors for the craft and bringing everyone playing drums on board with great views on drumming and always respectfully towards us all in our stages of development.
Top drawer!
Thanks.
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holy shit, those rack toms definitely aren't falling off
wow, freddie gruber and jim chapin!!! what an awesome experience it must have been to learn from two legends, chapin especially!!! as soon as i discovered jim chapin, it became my dream to meet him! unfortunately it was too late:(
I also heard Russ say he studied with Gruber, a video on that would be appreciated as well. Gruber left hand technique really needs to be explained better than some other videos around on U-Tube. The whole see-saw left hand wrist motion with fingers opening and closing is limited by the angle degree a human wrist can move in that motion (50 degrees) versus 90 degrees with the palm turned down a bit. I saw Russ turn the wrist down a bit here when he moved to faster speed in the video. He switched to fingers and wrist angle changes. Talk about it.
That is the most heavy-duty looking drum hardware I have ever seen. Looks like part of a Transformer! Autobot or Decepticon? Great video, by the way...
I augment my in-person drum lessons with this and I get so much out of it.
Thank you Russ for the honest gift given to us
Very interesting stuff Russ, thanks for sharing and well presented. I am nearly 64 and this is an eye opener in a way as I have never used my elbows like that but it all makes sense.
Great video. I understand the mechanics of the technique and it’s impressive on the snare. I’d like to see it applied to moving around the drum kit. Any videos like that? Thanks.
I cant inagine where sum of us older guys would be today had we had you tube when the internet 1st became public. Lord. 10 years earlier & man. But its still to cool to watch. Even if you dont really LEARN a technique, it def hleps you deveolope better ways to TEACH techniques. Which is why i watch everything i can.
"Everything you do with your voice you should do with your instrument" well said
Nice touch and true!
He is a great, great teacher. And you can easily notice he has studied with the Greats.
Drumeo has showcased great drummers of our time
I don’t play drums but I found this very useful
Extremely helpful and eye opening. I think I'll be a lot less tired, too! Thank you! 👍🎯
Dang, this is a spot on video for me. I have struggled to break that proverbial ceiling of speed, and this might just be what I need to move past that and develop more independence and control.
Thanks again Drumeo!
Yeah! Me, too! I've been stuck on this issue for a while and it's been bugging me. This is super helpful.
Thank you so very much for this beautiful lesson brother man! I have a perfected fast double stroke roll & I've been trying to get triplets with each hand by bouncing the sticks only little success but now I see it happening easily with this new technique & can't wait to try & master this! Appreciate Y💗U Brother!
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This is the best exercise to learn the techniques Russ you da man
"not sure how much faster your ever gonna need to play then that." *Laughs in death metal*
HAHAHA LOL
A great video, thank you! For the last years I was very obsessed about finger technique in French timpany grip. Now I´m staring to work hard on Moeller and your video is just perfect for that. And you really make it work. Amazing work!!!
This is such a great video for people starting out or intermediate drummers looking to advance their technique. So awesome!
This was spot on advice for me!! Good work guys....
Awesome video on technique. This really breaks it down and makes it easy to understand. This is why we love Drumeo!
Great lesson! That weird overhand traditional grip thing he's doing is kind of blowing my mind.
Russ, you are a very nice teacher & instructor. Thanks you.
Will work on that. Thanks. You can teach an old drummer new tricks. ( in my late seventies. Still play a lot. )
Russ thank you for a incredibly valuable video that does not spend any time rubber necking with narcissistic B.S. You really transmit some very valuable information and I am just super impressed with every bit of it. Thanks again. BTW, consider me subscribed.
Learn wrist strokes as well. Buddy did what Russ is teaching here with whips, but he wasn't limited to this technique. Wrist technique makes all strokes sound even (no accent/ghost note) and when you developed this, it has more power & sounds smoother.
The one thing it was missing was the up stroke accent one, two, THREE, he touched on it briefly when he talked about Chapin and the hot plate. Great lesson.
Great lesson!!
Great advice! It's very useful technique and really an eye opener.It's a whole new world of possibilities.
When tap is on u get the flow😊