it is more comforting to believe in a fabricated evil you can ward against, than to confront the true banal and mundane everyday evils of the oppressive system we live under.
The amount of child abuse that has been, is beinging and will be committed in the name of "saving the children" is disgusting. When panic and paranoia are treated as equal or superior "evidence" of crimes to facts and physical evidence, significantly more damage will be done than prevented.
The only conspiracy theory I do consider possible is this intentional outcome of such panics --- in addition to easy money for otherwise unlikeable, talentless hacks.
yes look at swingers( condom's/birth control types ) that kept it separated from there family and kid's and still ended up getting CPS/cop's-ect and or jailhouse time im not one of them or a red( by my faithfulness i should beliefs but i cannot as a capitalist*/socialist at best ) but they got the shot ended stick and so did there kid's-childhood and it was unnecessary different case out of 1990's or 2000's Texas or Tennessee and bi-female and her bestie plus husband( tradition typical types i think? other than saying yes to his bi wife/'s and or religious beliefs ) got CPS'd unfairly because the grandparents/her-mother of hers was homophobic and or didn't like the idea of her granddaughter being raised with atheists/household and insisted that she be under ?south? baptist leadership/parenting ect, sickening to read as a secularist and orthodoxy-LDS Christian aka im very welcoming to bi's and or polly's-marriage, also counts or EG-mother would have rather her parent her as a single mother than happiness under queer-marriage and also without any contact with her/granddaughter dad or her stepmom/polly-mom sadness and irony being that typical types screaming about traditional marriage and or married to governmental forces ect they also currently doing this to family's that hunt/fish and or beliefs strongly in 1A and 2A rights and some radicals believe this is childhood abuse in just letting minors learn were food/meat or freedom's/1777~ really comes from
@@gsp4prez who is making money on people talking about things like the Franklin scandal or the finders? Real cases with extremely odd circumstances that never have a definitive answer.
I grew up in the satanic panic. My parents called bullshit on most of the claims as they came. They said stranger danger was going to cause problems as well. I’ve had many strangers help me where others wouldn’t ask. The danger was at home or from not strangers. Most predictably my parents kept their children away from priests and pastors.
@@matt.willoughby children were taught not to trust strangers. They never reported the abuse at home. The danger wasn’t strangers, the strangers most likely would have helped out back then.
@@matt.willoughby the whole stranger danger thing is widely disproven when it comes to CSA because when you’re a child, you’re more likely to get exploited by the people you know and trust. you wouldn’t know while you’re being groomed by them, and grooming takes a lot of innate trust in someone
On May 20, 1989, I performed my 1st show as a musician, opening for the local hard rock station's "battle of the bands" winners (LOL) at a club in Salt Lake City. After soundcheck, I was made aware that a bunch of Mormon women were outside the venue in a picket line, chanting, singing, and carrying signs that said things like "stop Satan heavy metal", "repent", etc. Being barely 18 and inexperienced with frenzied religious mobs, I thought I'd go out there, with my long hair, skin tight spandex and shredded jeans, and simply explain to them that they had the wrong idea-that we sang love songs and were unaffiliated with the dark arts. Ya know... Just reason with them and clear up the misunderstanding. And do you know what? They didn't believe me! 😱 It was almost as though they didn't hear a single word I said. They just chanted more loudly and shook their signs at me. The thing is, they didn't want to know the truth-the same then as it is now; they would rather cling to their preconceived notions than have to admit to themselves they had wasted a Saturday making up signs and prejudging people they'd never even met or heard of. But the *sad* part of all of this is that the majority of my friends and bandmates who were with me that day, amused by the panickers' antics, now subscribe to the political ideology of the red-hat cult. Sadly, the snake has eaten its tail. Sigh. Long live rock n roll. 🤘🤘
Well shit that was an interesting read. Thanks for sharing! And yeah, I've noticed a lot of the old free love hippies are now redhats too. Bizarre, honestly.
one of my favorite whyt supramacyst khanspearacy theory music groups who are involved with ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and I mean ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the different variations of bigotry and ist/phobic stuff put video footage of "carrying signs that said things like "stop Satan heavy metal" in one of their music videos. it goes so hard
Ah, the good old home state of Utah. The only place I know where a group of people who gathered on a regular basis to perform secretive rites & rituals that are so forbidden to speak of they must take an oath to crrrrkk (finger across the throat) if they break it, all to achieve the power of a god in the afterlife, could unironically accuse a random kid in a band of being in a dangerous cult. I was a bit younger than you & went through my Tool, NIN, goth phase around '95 in Utah County - I never got the whole picket line but I think that's because they were afraid to get that close. I can laugh & see the irony in it now but the whole high demand religion norm can be a pretty damaging environment - especially for kids. Whether you're on the outside of it being demonized or on the inside being baptized there's a lot of potential harm. I love that at 18 just trying to play in a metal band, you were the one to behave in a rational & respectful way. Still are sounds like. Good for you.
I was not allowed to ride the bus until my twenties because my mother was terrified of "stranger danger" and that I was going to be snatched by some unseen monster. It was humiliating to tell my boyfriend at the time to admit to him that I had never done something so mundane. My mother was very overprotective of me growing up to a humiliating degree. I also had trouble in the 2000s. I was Goth in a time post Columbine and had two teachers who disliked me who insisted I was a budding school shooter in the making. It was awful.
People like to blame “stranger danger “ because most do not want to face the cold hard reality that most abuse is done by people close to home, family members or people of “trust”.
The day Columbine happened I was at my community college, zoned in on classes and not knowing what was happening in the outside world. I was heading to the bus and overheard some people talking about "why would kids bring grenades to school?", "how can you be picked on so much do resort to violence?". I stopped and engaged the people stating that it is a heavy burden that needs resolution, but I was missing a bit of their point. They had more "facts" of what happened then I did, within two hours of the shooting rumors of the "Trenchcoat Mafia" [who were not the shooters, just some goth kids at the school] had begun to float around. I knew none of this, but I was leaving art class, wearing all black, including my trenchcoat, carrying my art supplies box, a fairly large ammo box, my oversized portfolio, and rucksack. More industrial than goth, the looks of horror on the faces of the people was quite odd to me. Got home, checked news, and oh-boy.
@@megarural3000 We're concerned that so many types of violence come out on the album covers, even as you'll see the death and the murder that's brought forth on this one with the axe, you know, with the blood just dripping off of it. This one just sickened me when I saw it in a uh, rock store, it's called "Impaler", it's a rockstar with blood coming out of his mouth, do you think this could influence you to live for God?
I was a victim of the Satanic Panic in the 80s & 90s. Grew up in a small rural town with a lot of religious people. It started in elementary school just because I discovered metal music. Then later, punk. A local judge was related to my parents neighbors & made the most ridiculous accusations against me. Once he even told my mom he was gonna put me in jail for 6 months when I turned 18 because I was a "devil worshipper." Luckily he didn't do that, but I was also harassed by several of the local cops. Sometimes I'd have that judge as my judge & never got a fair trial. Two examples.... I was arrested for DUI even though I passed the breath test. All zeros. But they didn't do a blood test, or even the other tests that are totally voluntary. Only the breath test. He still convicted me of DUI. Literally the only thing I was actually guilty of was an underage drinking charge. The law in my state allows a maximum sentence of 72 hours. Don't remember what the fine is, but i got the max amount I think, & spent 5 days in jail - way more than 72 hours. & almost everyone else who was charged with underage drinking only got a $50 fine. I knew that because they used to put all the court cases in the local newspaper. Again, those are just two of many, many examples I have that I experienced. I could probably write whole book about it.
You should have went after that judges job, went to the papers and outed him for the unfair distribution of punishments. I think even back then you could have gotten him in deep shit. I fucking hate people who are supposed to be impartial arbiters using their positions to push their ridiculous theocracy
@dylanpatterson7149 I wanted to, but back then, while I knew I was being treated very unfairly to say the least, I didn't know what to do. I couldn't afford a lawyer at the time, & the public defender actually wanted me to take a plea deal for the DUI that they had absolutely no evidence to convict me for. So they weren't even any help.
@@JakeStrange66 that sucks but I understand why you couldn’t . I’m sorry you got fucked over like that. I hate that the public defender didn’t do his damn job either. He’s supposed to be your voice/defender. Did they have any evidence, or something they could twist to look like evidence? If not, he should have told you to fight it, not told you to take a deal. It just seems like you got a really raw deal dude
What a fake story. If what you said have actually happened, then you would've gone after the judge and you would've gotten the charge dropped if there was no basis for it.
9:36 when I first bought my ticket to see Longlegs I scrolled the bad reviews just to see one in full, it caught my eye when I was looking for the website. It started out saying that they hated the acting of the trans woman in this film and hated the grotesque singing that she did… There was no trans woman it was just Nicolas Cages character… I feel like that’s an interesting perceptive being pushed upon the outsider/antagonist character. The recent fear of trans individuals, and them being the other being projected onto a character who had no connection with them. Scapegoats are interesting.
That's really interesting... I honestly thought he was supposed to be a transphobic caracature at first. It's fascinating that this reviewer was mad about the trans thing but for what seems like a completely different reason.
@dolce9959 same and then in the video he talks about the washed up glam rock thing and it fits. It'll be a interesting movie when we as a society will move on from harassing trans people.
Conservative politicians do nothing anymore but provide scapegoats via fear mongering. It’s wild how these people that have interactions with trans people or immigrants once every few months have been convinced that they’re the problem that’s ruined their lives.
A friend of mine killed herself and her daughter, due to "recovered" memories of abuse and sa. Her therapist was charged, but at that time, the family was dealing with the trauma and the case fell apart.
the "satanic panic" never ended in my little corner of the world, and shaped my whole life. i was born at what was ostensibly the "end" of the satanic panic, and raised in a highly restrictive evangelical church. i was trained from a very young age to look for the devil around every corner- pokemon, harry potter, pop music, anything that wasn't about god, was satanic. i was taught that the people in the "in group" are safe, always and forever, and that it was only the shadowy, mysterious, visibly wrong "other" that i needed to protect myself from. oddly, or perhaps not really, i was never taught about inappropriate touching, bodily autonomy, etc, which enabled completely mundane abuse at the hands of christians. the actual evil child-abusing cult that i was raised in distracted from itself by pointing and saying "look over there!", and their followers comforted themselves by saying "well, we just won't go over there, so we're safe". even outside of religion, people find it easier to accept spooky conspiracies than random chance, loved ones being liars or manipulators, and the unknowable chaos of life. but this is built into the very fabric of christianity, and a lot of highly christian-influenced cultures around the world. these attitudes, teachings, and behaviors should not be tolerated.
@@vasilyevs case in point: the new hurricane conspiracies. Much more comforting to imagine that democrats are controlling the weather for... reasons... than acknowledge that we'd been right about climate change, and we've already crossed the rubicon on that front.
I still remember having the old AD&D Player's Handbook out during a work break (the one with the giant demon-looking Efrit on it). A co-worker was a born again Christian, but always seemed like a very sweet and friendly woman. She asked me questions about it, and I explained the book was from a game where we played as heroes who saved the day, kind of like a fairy tale. I discovered later that after my break was over she phoned the local gaming store to ask if this game really existed or if I'd been holding some sort of Satanic bible. This was 1983 or '84. :/
@songsayswhat two words, kid: Tom Hanks. The fact that the Qanon people cast him as a Satanic Pedophile after he propagated Satanic Panic with Mazes and Monsters is (chef's kiss.)
@@labgrrl7759 thats bc he is correctly cast as that. its provable with scientific evidence court evidence intelligence agency evidence police evidence government evidence
@@labgrrl7759 im trying to find the clip from a video but its across multiple channels. it shows tom hanks using a code that when searched for takes you to images of little girls
Most children are trafficked or assaulted by a family member or family friend. Way way more comforting if your child was abused to write it off to something you possibly couldn’t control. Not to blame the parents because that’s not what I mean- just that the guilt must be almost uncontrollable
Thank you SO much for talking about the themes in longlegs everyone wants to ignore. It was so obvious to me, watching Ruth not immediately try to kill this man, because she fears for her own life... at the expense of permanent psychological damage to her child? It reads very heavily as a story about abusive father figures who "cuckoo" the home, and felt crazy when nobody seems to want to read the film that way... lovely video thanks 😢
@@michaezell4607 humans have to have a shared delusion to bond them together and give meaning to an otherwise cruel and painful, short and pointless existence or else you get what we have today. Epidemic levels of addiction and self deletion and deaths of despair along with mental illness and an added epidemic of loneliness. I’m not religious either but I recognize the importance of it for society as a whole. Unfortunately we’ve largely done away with it along with all of our other traditions, all of which together helped us to progress to the point we reached during the boomer age which was the best time to be alive in all of human existence. Ever since we’ve been regressing.
Point of theology and needful separation- The Satanic Temple is different than The Church of Satan. They are not the same entity. Somewhere around 13:00 - 14:00 you start using it interchangeably. They are completely different organizations.
@@chozolady you follow a larp contrarian religion and wonder why members of the most pervasive religion on earth give you side eye for worshipping their biggest baddy, I think i will infact "stay ignorant" then
@@insultinsultan705 Considering you've got an Islamic-tinged username, I'll assume you're pretending Islam is the most pervasive religion. Unless you're using a "people of the book" definition then you're wrong, because Christianity still beats your numbers by around half a billion. I'm not even Abrahamic, it just annoys me that someone who claims another religion to be larp can't even get a simple fact right. To be honest, Islam could easily be considered a larp contrarian religion considering how much of the Qur'an is "previous books said this but it was diff'rent because we say so and we were there even though no one else mentioned it at the time".
22:50 I would like to add that the use of hypnotherapy to "recover" memories has been debunked -- but the mind's ability to reppress harmful memories is real and not particularly controversial in the field of psychology
Yeah I was gonna say that repressed memories are in fact a thing, and that with therapy they sometimes will just return when you start unpacking a lot of the trauma you’ve gone through. Especially if someone has suffered CPTSD! Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that 😮💨
I think it's also very fitting that longlegs utilizes "quiet horror" in a lot of scenes, moments that feel very tense in which we're conditioned by other horror tropes to brace for a jumpscare or something, but they never happen. After watching the movie, I realized the things I *thought* would happen scared me more than what was actually happening on screen.. whether intentional or not, it feels so genius
We had our own satanic abuse case in New Zealand where a man Peter Ellis was convicted and vilified for his whole life ( along with women who worked with him at a creche who were not charged but their lives were ruined also) He died before being exonerated but hopefully knowing most New Zealand people knew he was innocent. He was an amazing teacher who really helped the young ones he cared for.
It’s incredibly possible for someone to be convinced of their own delusion even if it was a delusion forced upon them. The experience is not real but brain is impacted as if it was. Their brain loses the synapses that formed from the actual experience and strengthens those of the fake experience. That’s why gaslighting can be so effective
Wow….i think I jizzed a little. Intelligent woman really salt my steak. They really stole my fire. They really bake my biscuit. They really bake my clam. They really launch my scud. They really pierce my pencil. They really tie my shoe. U turn me on. Ok I’m done.
The possible theme of CSA and Lee's very closed-off, hypervigilant behavior fits very well, much like the possibility/probability of CSA as an undertone theme in the Exorcist. I was reading Lee through a lens of CPTSD, also thinking she had a history of abuse, possibly CSA, prompting her mother to keep Lee more isolated afterwards. Michelle's story is a very interesting one. If you look at it through a modern lens, she was really struggling with depression after, I believe, was a third miscarriage. Post-partum depression and the mental/emotional toll of miscarriages were not taken seriously at all by mental health professionals in the 70's. Michelle still needed care, even though Dr. Pazder didn't understand why Michelle would need more than one appointment to help her "get over" a bad miscarriage. I think he then, consciously or unconsciously, was seeking that she must have been bothered by more, that she must have been a childhood abuse/neglect survivor, and was feeding her leading questions under hypnosis. I think some aspects of her memories are likely real, like the feeling of neglect or abuse. Her mother died when she was a teenager and she couldn't really process any qualms with her relationship with her mother without feeling guilt and grief. Through telling these possibly implanted memories to Dr. Pazder, she received the care and attention she needed. Then they later left both of their partners and married each other. So many ethical violations from Dr. Pazder.....
Yeah, him later also stating that it is up for interpretation what really happend, but that she believes it, speaks of so much disregard for her safety and wellbeing. It is vile to leave someone in that state and then exploit the situation.
It was just a prank, and then idiots decided it was real. I don't know if you can blame the original poster. That's like blaming UFO hoaxers for people trying to break into Area 51.
@@footballdesk4417 Q as in the originator of Qanon, it was brought up as a modern day equivalent of satanic panic, the video talks about it, would be awesome if you watched it and actually payed attention.
Milton's Paradise Lost also had a massive influence on how we see Satan... I don't remember exactly which details, but I wanna say that, for example, the Snake and Apple don't appear as such in the Bible. As a matter of fact, Hell doesn't really appear in the Bible. There is even at least one Evangelical Pastor who rejects the idea of Hell, since it primarily arises from fiction like the Divine Comedy. the Bible just mentions Gehenna, which is a real place where garbage was burned. the Bible does mention a list of "sinners" that would be condemned to Gehenna, but I don't see it as a stretch to read that metaphorically as those who would be condemned to the garbage dump of history, essentially. I don't think that "media literacy" (whatever that exactly means anyway) is the big problem here, though. Because, as you point out with the Divine Comedy, and I point out here with Milton, you don't have to even get these ideas by media. This stuff seeps into the culture. It serves to justify violence, sustain hierarchies, and to empower authoritarians. When you let ideas of Good and Evil stand, they propagate in any narrative, and warp our understanding of the world, and, more importantly, human beings. We humans have a need to categorize that often serves us quite well, and it sometimes includes making snap decisions about who to trust and who to stay away from. This is normal and undeniably useful, but it can easily become the source of paranoia about those who are different, fear of unlikely threats, and violence toward minorities. I don't think there are (many) people who mistake fictional stories for real life events, but the narrative, the types, those not only stick with us by our nature, they also stimulate us to seek out more of that which fits with our worldview and values. For example, I don't really like cop stories: generally speaking, they go completely counter my value system and belief. I get no joy from seeing "bad guys" go down for life, or people summarily shot based on the judgment of a single person. For me, those stories are also unfinished -- catching the "bad guy" doesn't actually resolve the struggles of the victims, nor provide them with the closure and satisfaction they craved. I *do* like stories that have a lot of complexity, that play with ambiguity, that peer into the minds of the characters, and illustrate human foibles. I like stories that challenge me, sure, but that is also because I think that being challenged is a way to learn and grow. In general, though, what I am most drawn to are stories that confirm my worldview or help explain who I am or what I have been through. Media does, absolutely, influence us. But so do our family and friends. So do our experiences and education. Our beliefs are in constant dialogue with the world around us, and, if you'll allow me a Critical Theory moment, a tool for the propagation of hegemonic values. This is also why I dislike the idea of "media literacy", unless it is steeped in critical thinking and paired with an understanding of why certain ideas are propagated more widely. Sure, those people who read Michelle Remembers or saw them interviewed on TV can be blamed for not understanding that the story was a hoax (intentional or not). But what about the journalists and talk shows that spoke about it so earnestly and seriously? Surely, they could have read the book more critically and found fundamental flaws in the story? How about the law enforcement officers and organizations that spread the word among their colleagues? Lots of educated and powerful people were responsible for disseminating the story as reality. Judges did not laugh these sprawling cases out of court. You get what I'm saying -- we as individuals certainly are also responsible for looking at stories, fictional and not, and assessing what they are trying to tell us. We can, and should, figure out what these stories *do* in the world, and what values and structures they model, and who they serve. But stories, quite literally, are everywhere, and they mold our understanding of pretty much everything. The problem isn't just media literacy, but ideology. The problem is that those in power use these stories to shore up their power, to control the population, and to discourage deconstructing the ideas that serve their purposes. I have a tendency to write mini-essays in RUclips comments. *lol* They often become essays, as a matter of fact. :) Sorry for my lengthy reply, and please do not take it as criticism of your work -- I hope you can see the "yes, and" at the core of this comment. Your video is absolutely great work, and I love not just the way you speak about this, but also the whole visual framework and the clips you used to underscore your argument. I am definitely going to continue watching your channel.
I'm an Honours English Lit grad who specialized in critical theory and I absolutely loved everything about this comment. I could not have said it better myself
All my favorite things in this life, from heavy metal to DnD to smoking dope, have been clearly labeled by these clowns as satanic... I'm thinkin I need to check out a drag show or somethin cause these weirdos have nailed it reliably.
Don’t the preschool accusations feel like an orchestration to pressure mothers to leave their jobs and stay home. It’s always felt like something like that to me to have more control especially over women that they had recently lost. Don’t forget at that time in the 80s women had only just gained the right to even have credit cards in their name, no longer their fathers or husband.
That's a bit of a misleading statement. Women could already have an account in their name, it's just that until that particular bill, banks could legally refuse to make a bank account for a woman simply for being a woman.
@@kc8391 either way the reality is that it really wasn’t that long ago when women were finally legally allowed their own bank accounts, credit cards and loans
Bless. When I saw this film I was gripped by a very specific fear- that the film wasn’t aware of the tropes it was using. The initial shot of Nic cage onward, I was very anxious about if we were about to get another Buffalo Bill, who was heavily referenced, and yet…. Oz Perkins never had the balls to just come out and say it. And the whole film apparently being a metaphor for how his mother hid his father’s AIDS diagnosis from him? Dude’s got some shit to work out, and until then, he needs editors.
Saw the thumbnail and thought it looked interesting, I realized that your voice sounded familiar but I couldn’t quite place it. Then I remembered that you’re the guy who made the fucking Moral Orel video. (I just wanted to say thank you for introducing me to Moral Orel but, I will also never forgive you for creating one of my largest and longest lasting hyperfixations. My sketchbooks will never recover from the sheer amount of fanart that I created for that stupid show.) Anyways, good vid. I’m subbing. 👍
I was a child during the 80's too and it was fantastic 😐 We had cool toys like star wars, transformers, he-man and epic cartoons like Ulysses31, Cities of Gold and The Simpsons. Classic movies were being made almost faster than you could watch them! And of course we were the first generation to experience the greatest and most awesome way to waste our futile lives - video games. Kids today with their Minecraft and Roblox don't know they're born
If you haven't, I'd recommend reading "CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties". It has some ties to this material. Very interesting read.
@@DumHeather How do you mean? The book points out a bunch of things that couldn't have happened, and then details a bunch of dead ends (his own words) to try to explain to it. Are you saying the errors documented were crap?
@@robpeterslaypaul sorry man, I get angry at the world sometimes and my only way of lashing out is by being as blunt and mean as possible in RUclips comments under the ridiculous censorship. This comment section and video in particular irked me because although I’m not religious the creeps that cheer on the worldwide symbol for evil as though what he stands for is somehow heroic grosses me out to no end. In regards to your comment I read the book as I’ve read all the books relating to the Manson case and found the author to be rambling on nonsensical jibberish for the entirety of the book. He comes to zero conclusions and unearths zero new information and just strings together a bunch of long winded crap, sort of like my comment to you, in order to sound as though he’s discovered something new and surprising. He didn’t.
The Satanic panic reminds me of a time in my teenage years where my parents showed us illunimnati video essays. I was scared for months, not listening to any artist that was “connected” to them and I even boycotted fast food chains. Until I realized, what I was believing was extreme
So I'm about 45 mins into this, and I wanted to say how well written this video is & how nicely you've woven together all the disparate threads that formed the Satanic Panic. Great work! This stuff has been a major hyperfixation of mine since 2019, and I genuinely feel you've covered all the bases. If anyone else is interested in falling down the rabbit hole, I can recommend these podcasts: The QAA podcast (formerly QAnon Anonymous) the Conspirituality podcast, they did a whole mini-series on "Michelle Remembers" & some deep dives into various aspects of the Satanic Panic Behind the Bastards has done multiple episodes on the Satanic Panic Knowledge Fight, which is a podcast dedicated to showing how dumb Alex Jones is in general, but since he mostly rants about how Satanic Democrats are coming for your children, I think it still tracks for evidence on how these narratives still remain in the zeitgeist.
I’m very nerdy about the Satanic Panic and you did an excellent job of covering the entire history and making its present-day implications clear. Subscribed!
@AskALibbieist i would be so fricking interested to find out how many people who fell for QANON were little kids whose parents/churches fell for the Satanic Panic . In my experience, a lot of the kids who were not direct victims, the kids who didn't have "recovered memories" of Satanic Abuse but whose parents, churches, and siblings taught about the nonsense, especially near the end of it being fashionable, didn't ever hear how people were manipulated by hysteria. In fact , again, with my limited experience, they just sort of saw their "war on Satanism" sort of run out of steam and vanish. Two of the children of people who caused folks to be killed in the Salem "Witch" trials (Samuel May was one) went out of their way to explain that their grandparents were propagating hysteria. I believe this is why it didn't repeat in Salem: religiously raised people said "my grandpa/dad screwed up and none of the killed were witches." A lot of the "experts" on Satanism during the Satanic Panic just quietly went away as the hysteria was revealed, and I think that since so few owned their parts in it, from the point of view of youngest (and/or dumbest) audience members, Satanic Ritual Abuse was happening,everywhere, then grown-ups whispered about it a bit behind their hands and they were not allowed to discuss it, for reasons no one told them. I think those people have been primed to believe any nonsense that comes down the pike because the Satanic Panic never ended in their eyes, was absolutely true in their eyes, and they believe that they witnessed some top secret powerful force make people stop mentioning it.
God that was extra long. But not easy to explain. Another aspect of the end of Satanic Panic was several of the groups that were targeted as being 'secretly Satanic' started doing rapid response group techniques, like calling the cops when an Evangelical speaker claimed they used to be a Satanist and sacrificed children. "Hello, police, this lady says she murdered kids " Interestingly, those I know who did rapid response were Catholic, Wiccan and non-theistic Satanists... weird bedfellows.
Thanks for making videos like this, more people need to know about this history. Just a few years ago my daughter's preschool had a parent claim that one of the other parents had followed her daughter into the bathroom and done something inappropriate (there were cameras outside the bathrooms so this was obviously not true). The preschool has been open for over 20 years and had never had a problem like this before, the teachers had never even heard about the Mc Martin case. I sent them links to videos like this to help them understand how dangerous accusation can get. They were very grateful for the information and everything was handled without further trouble. I am very glad that there are videos like this to help people learn from the past.
Tyrion gets a major fact wrong in the Department of Truth: the European witch hunts started with lepers. The Jews came next. Then just about anyone rich or poor.
@@snotsleeve5261some female or Jewish people managed to accrue some wealth and others were envious so they lied about their neighbors in order to have those inconveniently intelligent or fortunate people neutralized.
Awesome first impression of your channel! Definitely subscribing. Jerry Falwell mention jumped me back to my undergrad in polisci. Twinning the satanic panic and the rise of the religious right was a nice observation.
Interesting point I think I disagree with but it's a good one to make - I don't think "Michelle Remembers" really made people think Satanism was prevalent, but instead honed in on existing fears and gave it a boogeyman for the parental guilt and other nasty bigotry of the 80s. That might be the point you're making but it came across as "all fiction directly influences reality" rather than the more common "reality influences and normalizes ideas into fiction that then go onto further normalize it in the real world".
not to be too much of a hater but I think we should aim more at teaching media literacy to older people, I don't see younger people spreading misinformation nearly on the same level as genx and older
49:00 how many RUclipsrs are claiming, right now, that EYES WIDE SHUT is in fact an expose of child and woman trafficking rings Kubrick "couldn't" reveal specifically. I don't know what offends me more - their stupidity, or their bad reading of a beautiful movie about marriage and very adult, universal struggles.
@@NPC97536 No. They let their daughter walk ahead so they could have an adult conversation. The entire cult reading takes the theme of outsiderness and class anxiety, dramatized through the metaphor of an upper class orgy, and twists the movie's actual story beyond recognition. the story is from a novel written in Vienna over a hundred years ago. He bought the rights in the 60's and tried to make it several times. Unless the original author had the same goal (and used his orgy to argue this same cabal existed in his time), and Kubrick was somehow able to work on it for decades witthout raising suspicion until he made it, the most famous production of the decade that went months over schedule... the interpretation makes no sense. No offended intended. Believe what you want. But don't put it on Kubrick.
They were kind of entering the Coke fueled haze in the 80's not really leaving it. They were more so leaving the heroine dze of the 70's so the 80's could make uppers popular. I know this is hair splitting, but the way you worded it was very funny to me.
You did an AMAZING job on this. You're a great storyteller, well researched, clear storyline. I grew up in the 80s. YOU NAILED IT. you even noticed it disappeared for a while, then later...showed the exact same.threads
Loved brand new cherry flavor! I dont see it brought up nearly enough. I've subscribed just off the occult horror media mentioned in the first few minutes. A man of taste, clearly 😂
@@Meromorphic witch queen, just gonna analyze the writing bc there was some talent before they got fkin fired. Talk about shooting your nutts off for a good quarter. Bob Chapek was impressed.
My stepfather got aboard the Q train back in the day. 😔 We don't talk much anymore, especially after my transition, but I *really* hope he's grown out of it.
Awesome video. Just wanted to note that the church of Satan and the satanic temple are actually two completely separate groups. The one you reference in this video, started by Anton LaVey, is the church of satan. May be worth making an edit or pinning a comment to prevent any confusion from using the two names interchangeably in your video.
I agree, my mother was effected by movie such as Rosemary's baby, exorcist, the Omen, and many women that probably shouldn't have had kids, she's autistic , effected for worse. I think the impact is huge, after all most people don't read, and most people would rather die than think.
So, fun fact for any non Catholics out there: I grew up in a very strict Catholic family and I had to participate in mass as an usher from the time I was 12 til I moved out of the house. They still, to this day, train their ushers to make sure they watch people take and swallow the communion wafer during communion for fear that satanists might attend mass and smuggle out the body of Christ for satanic rituals. I’ve always found that so hilarious. Like yes, as a satanist what I want to do is sit through an ENTIRE Catholic mass just to steal a soggy cracker they tell me is Jesus.
Watching this, I'm reminded of pictures and videos of January 6th, when Trump convinced a ton of his followers to raid the capital so he could retain his presidency. I remember seeing the Q-Anon Shaman, a giddy-looking man attempting to steal a podium while waving at the camera, lots of angry, screaming white people attempting to scale the architecture of the steps with varying degrees of success. But the one image that stuck with me the hardest was them lamely exiting the capital building, namely a little old lady, hand-in-hand with what looked like a cop, being led step-by-step away from the main building itself. I don't doubt that there are many people who view Q-Anon theories and Trump as actively fighting for the soul of the nation, like a legitimate spiritual battle. But those images of people screaming and smiling as they bum-rush the capital? These aren't serious people. This showcases a relentlessly bored, frustrated, antagonistic society fueled by rampant paranoia of entering into the modern age. Believing that they're "fighting for the soul of the nation" is significantly more thrilling than accepting that immigrants and queers are just people trying to live on this dirtball alongside them. And when they've had their fill of hate-mongering and they think they've punished and terrified enough people, they're expecting a kindly police officer or security guard to take their hand and usher them away from the warzone, knowing that they don't have to clean up the mess they made or suffer any consequences for the harm they've caused.
My parents never believed any of that stuff in the 80s but I never thought about that lol, because when I watch media about it, it feels like everyone fell for it. But like I was there, lots of people were normal. Same as now, most people are kinda normal
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 Look at this guy--doesn't know that intelligent and educated people should be able to use colloquialism when socially appropriate!
My mom didn't have a high school diploma, and my grandmother had a GED and a nursing degree, but they never got into this satanic panic bs. My mom had to keep from assaulting someone one time when a neighbor told me at nine years old that was I going to "burn in hell" for playing with toy monkeys and dinosaurs due to "eViLUtioN". This guy was super nuts and an alcoholic who beat his wife and kids. Fortunately she left him and even stopped going to the same church he did.
Saying things like "Anton Lavey was just melodramatic Ayn Rand" makes hard to take that video seriously. Even wikipedia-tier research would allow anyone to know that substantial parts of the Satanic Bible are ripped off "might makes right" by Ragnar Redbeard, a book a little bit more controversial than "Atlas shrugged". Also, Anton Lavey role model was none other than PT Barnum, someone that didn't mind creating hoax to scam people. So painting him as a nice liberal atheist is nonsense. He's more like a boring version of Aleister Crowley.
I enjoyed "Longlegs" the same way I enjoyed Stephen King's "Carrie". In real life religion have always served as a tool of abuse. Be it christianity, islam, buddhism (yup, Buddhist monks do to their disciples what catholic priests unfamously do to their dicsiples as well), or satanism, as in case of some unfamous murders. No matter what one's faith it, someone else may use it as a tool to abuse others. It's true that one religion shouldn't be pitied against another, but it's sadly true that whatever dominant religion is in certain area, that religion paints itself as protagonist, and when some other religion that seeps in as antagonised. And in the name of what ppl believe, they can do every unimaginable stuff. Take Jihadist for example, who literally kill for their faith, but in general Muslims are good guys. Take Jehovah's Witnessess who cut their own family members off their lives as soon as their thought starts to drift away from what the organisation as if they never existed... But they don't do this out of malice, they do it out of what they percieve to be right... I feel like that's what these horrors want to potray. That no matter if You pray to God, to satan, to Buddha, or to Allah, or to pagan Gods or to Krishna, You can both be a protagonist AND a villain in someone else's lives. But I agree that no religion in media is potrayed as one-sidedly malevolent as satanism and like in every other religion's case - it shouldn't be.
It's not religion that does that, it's just authority. You'll find the same story in politics, banks, hippy communities, relations with stoners and their dealers, schools, the military, groups of friends, and on and on and on
This surprisingly excellent video showed up in my feed today, and I'm glad I clicked it. Liked & subscribed. ... On a related note, I just last week had a somewhat relevatory experience on RUclips: I watched a video about the long-debunked and (I thought) long-forgotten rumor from the 1960's which claimed that Paul McCartney was dead, and that the Beatles were hiding that fact. Then I got to the comments... I was actually shocked by the number of angry, accusatory comments left by people who clearly still believed this obvious falsehood, and who claimed that it was just one part of a vast conspiracy. This was some really vitriolic, down-the-rabbit-hole stuff from the type of people who gravitate toward these theories: Freemason haters, Q-Anoners, flat-Earthers, Mandela effect nuts, etc. Among these comments, many of which were quite hostile, the one that really struck me was a sincere, if misguided, belief that "most conspiracy theories have turned out to be true." Feeling like there would be no use in arguing, all I could do was shake my head.
Well that's just great. An intelligent, well researched and funny video essay. Subscribed in the first 5 minutes, off to watch the hereditary video. There goes my weekend.
“I picked up department of truth” I was genuinely not expecting anyone outside of the comic space to have read that and get the underlying message behind it
I know you might not see this but, dude this is a spectacular video. Great job! It made me start to empathize with people who genuinely believe in these things. I have almost lost that empathy because of the toxicity of social media
When the media was talking about QAnon all the time, and people online were freaking out about who was or wasn't a Q Anon member, I remember thinking it was a lot like the Satanic Panic. The paranoia about the "far right" has a lot in common with the paranoia about "satanists committing human sacrifices". The people who believed in the Pizzeria Sacrifices also had a lot in common with the fundies who were scared of Dungeons and Dragons in the 80s.
I lost my ex-fiance to this shit. He went from being right wing (which I can handle) to being full out bigoted: hating trans and gay people, hating black men specifically, believing Jews and Mexicans were being all the bad in America, etc. He started having an unhealthy fascination with one particular side of WWII. He grew paranoid, sometimes waking me up in the middle of the night go interrogate me about whether or not I was going to get a penis installed (??). He accused people he'd known in his classes for years of being Muslim or Jewish, as if either is a bad thing. I had to leave. At 24, I had to move back in with my mom or be homeless. It was terrible.
@@morecensoring7364 another that can't handle the truth of where qanon start or how it started. Or are you Jim or Ron? Or are you family or a friend, that gets upset because they got ratted out for starting qanon?
There is hope for my mother, who upon hearing that Trump accused Haitians of eating cats and dogs in Ohio, said "it's not looking good for him. I'm worried." She's worried that he'll lose, as a supporter, which means she's not braindead
EXCELLENT VIDEO!! I was OBSESSED with the Satanic Panic about 10 years ago, and I was surprised about just how few of my friends/family had any idea it even happened (that does include people who were alive during the time) I remember telling my mother how the Pizzagate conspiracy just reminded me of the Kern County case, and she had no idea what I was talking about (she was born in 1960 and very conservative) the more people know about these mass panics and the role the media plays in getting everyone worked up, the better off I think we'll be. Also just subbed! The algo just recommended this to me randomly and I am glad it did!
Very good video, however I think the conclusion is a bit naive, because scapegoating people is humanity's bread and butter. In the EU between WW1 and WW2 a party came slowly in power that scapegoated alot (I think everyone knows who I am talking about). And as you said history is filled with this. All we can hope is that more logically educated people keep helping.
I liked this video, until it turned into a message on why free speech should be censored. Free speech is important, no matter who insane the speaker is. If you give up that power to a ruling body, they will only get more strict and never give it back.
it is more comforting to believe in a fabricated evil you can ward against, than to confront the true banal and mundane everyday evils of the oppressive system we live under.
That's a bit too profound for RUclips comments, at least dumb it down with an emoji or something😂
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Absolutely right.
You're god damn right, comrade.❤️✊️🖤
@@phangkuanhoong7967 I hate beurocracy too
The amount of child abuse that has been, is beinging and will be committed in the name of "saving the children" is disgusting. When panic and paranoia are treated as equal or superior "evidence" of crimes to facts and physical evidence, significantly more damage will be done than prevented.
The only conspiracy theory I do consider possible is this intentional outcome of such panics --- in addition to easy money for otherwise unlikeable, talentless hacks.
@@davidhinkleyI always say there are no conspiracies, just additional ways to make as much money as possible.
@@davidhinkleyit seems really obvious when you look at stuff like project 2025.
yes look at swingers( condom's/birth control types ) that kept it separated from there family and kid's and still ended up getting CPS/cop's-ect and or jailhouse time
im not one of them or a red( by my faithfulness i should beliefs but i cannot as a capitalist*/socialist at best ) but they got the shot ended stick and so did there kid's-childhood and it was unnecessary
different case out of 1990's or 2000's Texas or Tennessee and bi-female and her bestie plus husband( tradition typical types i think? other than saying yes to his bi wife/'s and or religious beliefs ) got CPS'd unfairly because the grandparents/her-mother of hers was homophobic and or didn't like the idea of her granddaughter being raised with atheists/household and insisted that she be under ?south? baptist leadership/parenting ect, sickening to read as a secularist and orthodoxy-LDS Christian aka im very welcoming to bi's and or polly's-marriage, also counts or EG-mother would have rather her parent her as a single mother than happiness under queer-marriage and also without any contact with her/granddaughter dad or her stepmom/polly-mom sadness and irony being that typical types screaming about traditional marriage and or married to governmental forces ect
they also currently doing this to family's that hunt/fish and or beliefs strongly in 1A and 2A rights and some radicals believe this is childhood abuse in just letting minors learn were food/meat or freedom's/1777~ really comes from
@@gsp4prez who is making money on people talking about things like the Franklin scandal or the finders? Real cases with extremely odd circumstances that never have a definitive answer.
I grew up in the satanic panic. My parents called bullshit on most of the claims as they came. They said stranger danger was going to cause problems as well. I’ve had many strangers help me where others wouldn’t ask. The danger was at home or from not strangers. Most predictably my parents kept their children away from priests and pastors.
Wrong. Stangers are dangerous, mostly in hood-like dark areas, if you catch my drift 💨💀💯🔥💸👅
Your parents sound like reasonable people with critical thinking skills, mixed with some bravery. You were lucky pal.
I don't see how teaching kids to be cautious with strangers could cause problems? How does that work??
@@matt.willoughby children were taught not to trust strangers. They never reported the abuse at home. The danger wasn’t strangers, the strangers most likely would have helped out back then.
@@matt.willoughby the whole stranger danger thing is widely disproven when it comes to CSA because when you’re a child, you’re more likely to get exploited by the people you know and trust. you wouldn’t know while you’re being groomed by them, and grooming takes a lot of innate trust in someone
On May 20, 1989, I performed my 1st show as a musician, opening for the local hard rock station's "battle of the bands" winners (LOL) at a club in Salt Lake City. After soundcheck, I was made aware that a bunch of Mormon women were outside the venue in a picket line, chanting, singing, and carrying signs that said things like "stop Satan heavy metal", "repent", etc. Being barely 18 and inexperienced with frenzied religious mobs, I thought I'd go out there, with my long hair, skin tight spandex and shredded jeans, and simply explain to them that they had the wrong idea-that we sang love songs and were unaffiliated with the dark arts. Ya know... Just reason with them and clear up the misunderstanding. And do you know what? They didn't believe me! 😱 It was almost as though they didn't hear a single word I said. They just chanted more loudly and shook their signs at me. The thing is, they didn't want to know the truth-the same then as it is now; they would rather cling to their preconceived notions than have to admit to themselves they had wasted a Saturday making up signs and prejudging people they'd never even met or heard of. But the *sad* part of all of this is that the majority of my friends and bandmates who were with me that day, amused by the panickers' antics, now subscribe to the political ideology of the red-hat cult. Sadly, the snake has eaten its tail. Sigh. Long live rock n roll. 🤘🤘
Well shit that was an interesting read. Thanks for sharing! And yeah, I've noticed a lot of the old free love hippies are now redhats too. Bizarre, honestly.
one of my favorite whyt supramacyst khanspearacy theory music groups who are involved with ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and I mean ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the different variations of bigotry and ist/phobic stuff put video footage of "carrying signs that said things like "stop Satan heavy metal" in one of their music videos. it goes so hard
some of their lyrics they have a few about reading the Bible and using these >>> 🔫on others or putting them onto the heads of others
@@henrylangham6428nobody cares how edgy you are
Ah, the good old home state of Utah. The only place I know where a group of people who gathered on a regular basis to perform secretive rites & rituals that are so forbidden to speak of they must take an oath to crrrrkk (finger across the throat) if they break it, all to achieve the power of a god in the afterlife, could unironically accuse a random kid in a band of being in a dangerous cult. I was a bit younger than you & went through my Tool, NIN, goth phase around '95 in Utah County - I never got the whole picket line but I think that's because they were afraid to get that close. I can laugh & see the irony in it now but the whole high demand religion norm can be a pretty damaging environment - especially for kids. Whether you're on the outside of it being demonized or on the inside being baptized there's a lot of potential harm. I love that at 18 just trying to play in a metal band, you were the one to behave in a rational & respectful way. Still are sounds like. Good for you.
I was not allowed to ride the bus until my twenties because my mother was terrified of "stranger danger" and that I was going to be snatched by some unseen monster. It was humiliating to tell my boyfriend at the time to admit to him that I had never done something so mundane. My mother was very overprotective of me growing up to a humiliating degree.
I also had trouble in the 2000s. I was Goth in a time post Columbine and had two teachers who disliked me who insisted I was a budding school shooter in the making. It was awful.
go to therapy, incel. no one else cares about your mommy issues. not our problem
People like to blame “stranger danger “ because most do not want to face the cold hard reality that most abuse is done by people close to home, family members or people of “trust”.
The day Columbine happened I was at my community college, zoned in on classes and not knowing what was happening in the outside world. I was heading to the bus and overheard some people talking about "why would kids bring grenades to school?", "how can you be picked on so much do resort to violence?". I stopped and engaged the people stating that it is a heavy burden that needs resolution, but I was missing a bit of their point. They had more "facts" of what happened then I did, within two hours of the shooting rumors of the "Trenchcoat Mafia" [who were not the shooters, just some goth kids at the school] had begun to float around. I knew none of this, but I was leaving art class, wearing all black, including my trenchcoat, carrying my art supplies box, a fairly large ammo box, my oversized portfolio, and rucksack. More industrial than goth, the looks of horror on the faces of the people was quite odd to me.
Got home, checked news, and oh-boy.
@@megarural3000
>starts randomly talking randomly nowhere about columbine randomly
HOLY MEDS TAKE YOUR MEDS. we have a dangerous individual here
@@megarural3000 We're concerned that so many types of violence come out on the album covers, even as you'll see the death and the murder that's brought forth on this one with the axe, you know, with the blood just dripping off of it. This one just sickened me when I saw it in a uh, rock store, it's called "Impaler", it's a rockstar with blood coming out of his mouth, do you think this could influence you to live for God?
"Rides the line between terrifyingly insane and complete camp." could really describe most of Nic Cage's career...
His movies can either suck or be pretty cool.
I was a victim of the Satanic Panic in the 80s & 90s. Grew up in a small rural town with a lot of religious people. It started in elementary school just because I discovered metal music. Then later, punk. A local judge was related to my parents neighbors & made the most ridiculous accusations against me. Once he even told my mom he was gonna put me in jail for 6 months when I turned 18 because I was a "devil worshipper." Luckily he didn't do that, but I was also harassed by several of the local cops. Sometimes I'd have that judge as my judge & never got a fair trial.
Two examples.... I was arrested for DUI even though I passed the breath test. All zeros. But they didn't do a blood test, or even the other tests that are totally voluntary. Only the breath test. He still convicted me of DUI.
Literally the only thing I was actually guilty of was an underage drinking charge. The law in my state allows a maximum sentence of 72 hours. Don't remember what the fine is, but i got the max amount I think, & spent 5 days in jail - way more than 72 hours.
& almost everyone else who was charged with underage drinking only got a $50 fine. I knew that because they used to put all the court cases in the local newspaper.
Again, those are just two of many, many examples I have that I experienced. I could probably write whole book about it.
@@JakeStrange66 jesus. Yes you definitely should write a book!
You should have went after that judges job, went to the papers and outed him for the unfair distribution of punishments. I think even back then you could have gotten him in deep shit. I fucking hate people who are supposed to be impartial arbiters using their positions to push their ridiculous theocracy
@dylanpatterson7149 I wanted to, but back then, while I knew I was being treated very unfairly to say the least, I didn't know what to do.
I couldn't afford a lawyer at the time, & the public defender actually wanted me to take a plea deal for the DUI that they had absolutely no evidence to convict me for. So they weren't even any help.
@@JakeStrange66 that sucks but I understand why you couldn’t . I’m sorry you got fucked over like that. I hate that the public defender didn’t do his damn job either. He’s supposed to be your voice/defender. Did they have any evidence, or something they could twist to look like evidence? If not, he should have told you to fight it, not told you to take a deal. It just seems like you got a really raw deal dude
What a fake story. If what you said have actually happened, then you would've gone after the judge and you would've gotten the charge dropped if there was no basis for it.
9:36 when I first bought my ticket to see Longlegs I scrolled the bad reviews just to see one in full, it caught my eye when I was looking for the website.
It started out saying that they hated the acting of the trans woman in this film and hated the grotesque singing that she did… There was no trans woman it was just Nicolas Cages character… I feel like that’s an interesting perceptive being pushed upon the outsider/antagonist character. The recent fear of trans individuals, and them being the other being projected onto a character who had no connection with them. Scapegoats are interesting.
That's really interesting... I honestly thought he was supposed to be a transphobic caracature at first. It's fascinating that this reviewer was mad about the trans thing but for what seems like a completely different reason.
@dolce9959 same and then in the video he talks about the washed up glam rock thing and it fits. It'll be a interesting movie when we as a society will move on from harassing trans people.
One anecdotal example of an alleged bad review written by some dope on the internet = muh trans genocide!
Conservative politicians do nothing anymore but provide scapegoats via fear mongering. It’s wild how these people that have interactions with trans people or immigrants once every few months have been convinced that they’re the problem that’s ruined their lives.
@Squirreltasticqueen you refuse to think this is an interesting movie until everyone agrees with your point of view?
A friend of mine killed herself and her daughter, due to "recovered" memories of abuse and sa. Her therapist was charged, but at that time, the family was dealing with the trauma and the case fell apart.
Jesus Christ, that’s horrifying. I’m sorry.
I'd say we must've known the same person, but my friend who did the same was male.
Also minorly famous as a result of his parents' books.
What? If it was a court case then it's already been publicized. Give us some names, or we call internet BS.
@@labgrrl7759well, what books then? Is anyone on the internet for real?
That’s horrible. The recovered memory crap ruined a lot of lives
the "satanic panic" never ended in my little corner of the world, and shaped my whole life. i was born at what was ostensibly the "end" of the satanic panic, and raised in a highly restrictive evangelical church. i was trained from a very young age to look for the devil around every corner- pokemon, harry potter, pop music, anything that wasn't about god, was satanic. i was taught that the people in the "in group" are safe, always and forever, and that it was only the shadowy, mysterious, visibly wrong "other" that i needed to protect myself from. oddly, or perhaps not really, i was never taught about inappropriate touching, bodily autonomy, etc, which enabled completely mundane abuse at the hands of christians. the actual evil child-abusing cult that i was raised in distracted from itself by pointing and saying "look over there!", and their followers comforted themselves by saying "well, we just won't go over there, so we're safe".
even outside of religion, people find it easier to accept spooky conspiracies than random chance, loved ones being liars or manipulators, and the unknowable chaos of life. but this is built into the very fabric of christianity, and a lot of highly christian-influenced cultures around the world. these attitudes, teachings, and behaviors should not be tolerated.
@@vasilyevs very well said.
@@vasilyevs case in point: the new hurricane conspiracies. Much more comforting to imagine that democrats are controlling the weather for... reasons... than acknowledge that we'd been right about climate change, and we've already crossed the rubicon on that front.
I still remember having the old AD&D Player's Handbook out during a work break (the one with the giant demon-looking Efrit on it). A co-worker was a born again Christian, but always seemed like a very sweet and friendly woman. She asked me questions about it, and I explained the book was from a game where we played as heroes who saved the day, kind of like a fairy tale. I discovered later that after my break was over she phoned the local gaming store to ask if this game really existed or if I'd been holding some sort of Satanic bible. This was 1983 or '84. :/
@songsayswhat two words, kid: Tom Hanks.
The fact that the Qanon people cast him as a Satanic Pedophile after he propagated Satanic Panic with Mazes and Monsters is (chef's kiss.)
@@labgrrl7759 thats bc he is correctly cast as that. its provable with scientific evidence court evidence intelligence agency evidence police evidence government evidence
@@labgrrl7759 why have so many of hanks accusers become opposite of alive, and each case it happened with extreme mysterious circumstances
@@labgrrl7759 im trying to find the clip from a video but its across multiple channels. it shows tom hanks using a code that when searched for takes you to images of little girls
@@labgrrl7759 labggrrl7759 has been reported to the fbi for labgrrl759 involvement in crimes of CSA and related crimes of the situation
Most children are trafficked or assaulted by a family member or family friend. Way way more comforting if your child was abused to write it off to something you possibly couldn’t control. Not to blame the parents because that’s not what I mean- just that the guilt must be almost uncontrollable
I grew up with the West Memphis 3, where three kids were accused of heinous acts because they played DnD and listened to metal music.
Yeah interesting how those innocent kids got off eventually and the main one wrote a book claiming he used high magick to get off death row
@@jessicalee-botes1107Your comment has such a strange tone
@@jessicalee-botes1107What, you think he used magic to prove their innocence?😂 Let me guess, another conspiracy 😮😢
Evan Williams bottle... if u don't know that reference, u haven't scratched the surface of the basic evidence and confessions.
@@PoppySeed84I have read your comment numerous times and have yet to understand what you are trying to state.
Thank you SO much for talking about the themes in longlegs everyone wants to ignore. It was so obvious to me, watching Ruth not immediately try to kill this man, because she fears for her own life... at the expense of permanent psychological damage to her child? It reads very heavily as a story about abusive father figures who "cuckoo" the home, and felt crazy when nobody seems to want to read the film that way... lovely video thanks 😢
I agree. I think longlegs was her father, long lost and dangerous.
We laugh at the witch trials, but we keep repeating them.
Because humans continue to believe in the bronze age mythology known as religion.
Who in the world is LAUGHING about that!? Thats like a small version of laughing at the HoloCross. You should surround yourself with better people.
@user-mx9pt4dr7y but those women who were murdered were real. That’s what the comment you replied to is saying and is having respect for.
I've never heard of anybody laughing about witch trials.
@@michaezell4607 humans have to have a shared delusion to bond them together and give meaning to an otherwise cruel and painful, short and pointless existence or else you get what we have today. Epidemic levels of addiction and self deletion and deaths of despair along with mental illness and an added epidemic of loneliness. I’m not religious either but I recognize the importance of it for society as a whole. Unfortunately we’ve largely done away with it along with all of our other traditions, all of which together helped us to progress to the point we reached during the boomer age which was the best time to be alive in all of human existence. Ever since we’ve been regressing.
Point of theology and needful separation- The Satanic Temple is different than The Church of Satan. They are not the same entity. Somewhere around 13:00 - 14:00 you start using it interchangeably. They are completely different organizations.
So you're a member of a watered down fascist organization.
Both are nerd larpers so who gaf
@@insultinsultan705 stay ignorant 🫶🏼
@@chozolady you follow a larp contrarian religion and wonder why members of the most pervasive religion on earth give you side eye for worshipping their biggest baddy, I think i will infact "stay ignorant" then
@@insultinsultan705 Considering you've got an Islamic-tinged username, I'll assume you're pretending Islam is the most pervasive religion. Unless you're using a "people of the book" definition then you're wrong, because Christianity still beats your numbers by around half a billion. I'm not even Abrahamic, it just annoys me that someone who claims another religion to be larp can't even get a simple fact right. To be honest, Islam could easily be considered a larp contrarian religion considering how much of the Qur'an is "previous books said this but it was diff'rent because we say so and we were there even though no one else mentioned it at the time".
22:50 I would like to add that the use of hypnotherapy to "recover" memories has been debunked -- but the mind's ability to reppress harmful memories is real and not particularly controversial in the field of psychology
Yeah I was gonna say that repressed memories are in fact a thing, and that with therapy they sometimes will just return when you start unpacking a lot of the trauma you’ve gone through. Especially if someone has suffered CPTSD! Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that 😮💨
I think it's also very fitting that longlegs utilizes "quiet horror" in a lot of scenes, moments that feel very tense in which we're conditioned by other horror tropes to brace for a jumpscare or something, but they never happen. After watching the movie, I realized the things I *thought* would happen scared me more than what was actually happening on screen.. whether intentional or not, it feels so genius
We had our own satanic abuse case in New Zealand where a man Peter Ellis was convicted and vilified for his whole life ( along with women who worked with him at a creche who were not charged but their lives were ruined also)
He died before being exonerated but hopefully knowing most New Zealand people knew he was innocent.
He was an amazing teacher who really helped the young ones he cared for.
It’s incredibly possible for someone to be convinced of their own delusion even if it was a delusion forced upon them. The experience is not real but brain is impacted as if it was. Their brain loses the synapses that formed from the actual experience and strengthens those of the fake experience. That’s why gaslighting can be so effective
Wow….i think I jizzed a little. Intelligent woman really salt my steak. They really stole my fire. They really bake my biscuit. They really bake my clam. They really launch my scud. They really pierce my pencil. They really tie my shoe. U turn me on. Ok I’m done.
The possible theme of CSA and Lee's very closed-off, hypervigilant behavior fits very well, much like the possibility/probability of CSA as an undertone theme in the Exorcist. I was reading Lee through a lens of CPTSD, also thinking she had a history of abuse, possibly CSA, prompting her mother to keep Lee more isolated afterwards.
Michelle's story is a very interesting one. If you look at it through a modern lens, she was really struggling with depression after, I believe, was a third miscarriage. Post-partum depression and the mental/emotional toll of miscarriages were not taken seriously at all by mental health professionals in the 70's. Michelle still needed care, even though Dr. Pazder didn't understand why Michelle would need more than one appointment to help her "get over" a bad miscarriage. I think he then, consciously or unconsciously, was seeking that she must have been bothered by more, that she must have been a childhood abuse/neglect survivor, and was feeding her leading questions under hypnosis. I think some aspects of her memories are likely real, like the feeling of neglect or abuse. Her mother died when she was a teenager and she couldn't really process any qualms with her relationship with her mother without feeling guilt and grief. Through telling these possibly implanted memories to Dr. Pazder, she received the care and attention she needed. Then they later left both of their partners and married each other. So many ethical violations from Dr. Pazder.....
Crazy that he didn't lose his license
Yeah, him later also stating that it is up for interpretation what really happend, but that she believes it, speaks of so much disregard for her safety and wellbeing. It is vile to leave someone in that state and then exploit the situation.
@@annje1992 That's who the real Dr. Pazder is, apparently.
If only “Q” had just written an ARG instead of actively putting people in danger and making horrible false accusations…
It was just a prank, and then idiots decided it was real. I don't know if you can blame the original poster. That's like blaming UFO hoaxers for people trying to break into Area 51.
The fact when it first started i chocked it up an ARG and was telling people it was an ARG before everything else spawned from Q
What false accusations?
@@footballdesk4417 Q as in the originator of Qanon, it was brought up as a modern day equivalent of satanic panic, the video talks about it, would be awesome if you watched it and actually payed attention.
@@guggelguggel7491 it would be awesome if you understand what a joke was.
Sorry about your brain. 😔
Milton's Paradise Lost also had a massive influence on how we see Satan... I don't remember exactly which details, but I wanna say that, for example, the Snake and Apple don't appear as such in the Bible.
As a matter of fact, Hell doesn't really appear in the Bible. There is even at least one Evangelical Pastor who rejects the idea of Hell, since it primarily arises from fiction like the Divine Comedy. the Bible just mentions Gehenna, which is a real place where garbage was burned. the Bible does mention a list of "sinners" that would be condemned to Gehenna, but I don't see it as a stretch to read that metaphorically as those who would be condemned to the garbage dump of history, essentially.
I don't think that "media literacy" (whatever that exactly means anyway) is the big problem here, though. Because, as you point out with the Divine Comedy, and I point out here with Milton, you don't have to even get these ideas by media. This stuff seeps into the culture. It serves to justify violence, sustain hierarchies, and to empower authoritarians. When you let ideas of Good and Evil stand, they propagate in any narrative, and warp our understanding of the world, and, more importantly, human beings. We humans have a need to categorize that often serves us quite well, and it sometimes includes making snap decisions about who to trust and who to stay away from. This is normal and undeniably useful, but it can easily become the source of paranoia about those who are different, fear of unlikely threats, and violence toward minorities. I don't think there are (many) people who mistake fictional stories for real life events, but the narrative, the types, those not only stick with us by our nature, they also stimulate us to seek out more of that which fits with our worldview and values. For example, I don't really like cop stories: generally speaking, they go completely counter my value system and belief. I get no joy from seeing "bad guys" go down for life, or people summarily shot based on the judgment of a single person. For me, those stories are also unfinished -- catching the "bad guy" doesn't actually resolve the struggles of the victims, nor provide them with the closure and satisfaction they craved. I *do* like stories that have a lot of complexity, that play with ambiguity, that peer into the minds of the characters, and illustrate human foibles. I like stories that challenge me, sure, but that is also because I think that being challenged is a way to learn and grow. In general, though, what I am most drawn to are stories that confirm my worldview or help explain who I am or what I have been through.
Media does, absolutely, influence us. But so do our family and friends. So do our experiences and education. Our beliefs are in constant dialogue with the world around us, and, if you'll allow me a Critical Theory moment, a tool for the propagation of hegemonic values. This is also why I dislike the idea of "media literacy", unless it is steeped in critical thinking and paired with an understanding of why certain ideas are propagated more widely. Sure, those people who read Michelle Remembers or saw them interviewed on TV can be blamed for not understanding that the story was a hoax (intentional or not). But what about the journalists and talk shows that spoke about it so earnestly and seriously? Surely, they could have read the book more critically and found fundamental flaws in the story? How about the law enforcement officers and organizations that spread the word among their colleagues? Lots of educated and powerful people were responsible for disseminating the story as reality. Judges did not laugh these sprawling cases out of court. You get what I'm saying -- we as individuals certainly are also responsible for looking at stories, fictional and not, and assessing what they are trying to tell us. We can, and should, figure out what these stories *do* in the world, and what values and structures they model, and who they serve. But stories, quite literally, are everywhere, and they mold our understanding of pretty much everything. The problem isn't just media literacy, but ideology. The problem is that those in power use these stories to shore up their power, to control the population, and to discourage deconstructing the ideas that serve their purposes.
I have a tendency to write mini-essays in RUclips comments. *lol* They often become essays, as a matter of fact. :) Sorry for my lengthy reply, and please do not take it as criticism of your work -- I hope you can see the "yes, and" at the core of this comment. Your video is absolutely great work, and I love not just the way you speak about this, but also the whole visual framework and the clips you used to underscore your argument. I am definitely going to continue watching your channel.
Memory under hypnosis come from dreams.
Opus Dei is the biggest evil cult in the world.
I'm an Honours English Lit grad who specialized in critical theory and I absolutely loved everything about this comment. I could not have said it better myself
Will you marry me….and keep me safe !! I will call u mommy under my breath.
I don't mind a mini-essay if it serves a purpose rather than, like too many college essays, is being verbose for the sake of a word count.
All my favorite things in this life, from heavy metal to DnD to smoking dope, have been clearly labeled by these clowns as satanic... I'm thinkin I need to check out a drag show or somethin cause these weirdos have nailed it reliably.
Honestly, please do! They're a lot of fun
Actually drag shows are one of my favorite things to go to, they are an absolute blast!
@@reidwallace4258 do it, the way you whine you’d fit in perfectly
You should go, the way you whine you’d fit in perfectly
Strike a pose n drop down to vogue
Don’t the preschool accusations feel like an orchestration to pressure mothers to leave their jobs and stay home. It’s always felt like something like that to me to have more control especially over women that they had recently lost. Don’t forget at that time in the 80s women had only just gained the right to even have credit cards in their name, no longer their fathers or husband.
That's a bit of a misleading statement. Women could already have an account in their name, it's just that until that particular bill, banks could legally refuse to make a bank account for a woman simply for being a woman.
@@kc8391 either way the reality is that it really wasn’t that long ago when women were finally legally allowed their own bank accounts, credit cards and loans
Congratulations on the fun jobs.
I'm still mad, man. The Satanic panic caused Yu-Gi-Oh to be taken off air in my country.
Bless. When I saw this film I was gripped by a very specific fear- that the film wasn’t aware of the tropes it was using. The initial shot of Nic cage onward, I was very anxious about if we were about to get another Buffalo Bill, who was heavily referenced, and yet…. Oz Perkins never had the balls to just come out and say it. And the whole film apparently being a metaphor for how his mother hid his father’s AIDS diagnosis from him? Dude’s got some shit to work out, and until then, he needs editors.
Nobody cares. Shit up loser. Trope. lol. Okay.
I recommend you listen to The Big Picture podcast episode, he really touches on a lot of the movie and his motivations!
Saw the thumbnail and thought it looked interesting, I realized that your voice sounded familiar but I couldn’t quite place it. Then I remembered that you’re the guy who made the fucking Moral Orel video. (I just wanted to say thank you for introducing me to Moral Orel but, I will also never forgive you for creating one of my largest and longest lasting hyperfixations. My sketchbooks will never recover from the sheer amount of fanart that I created for that stupid show.) Anyways, good vid. I’m subbing. 👍
Oh! So that's where I knew him from!!
I was a child during the 80s satanic panic. It sucked.
I was a child during the 80's too and it was fantastic 😐
We had cool toys like star wars, transformers, he-man and epic cartoons like Ulysses31, Cities of Gold and The Simpsons. Classic movies were being made almost faster than you could watch them! And of course we were the first generation to experience the greatest and most awesome way to waste our futile lives - video games.
Kids today with their Minecraft and Roblox don't know they're born
@@matt.willoughby Yep.The feAr of all out nuclear war added A CERTAIN BACKGROUND TO THE FUN!😀
@@matt.willoughby”mY gEnErAtIoN gOoD! AlL oThEr GeNs BaD!”
If you haven't, I'd recommend reading "CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties". It has some ties to this material. Very interesting read.
@@robpeterslaypaul it’s a bunch of crap tho
@@DumHeather How do you mean? The book points out a bunch of things that couldn't have happened, and then details a bunch of dead ends (his own words) to try to explain to it. Are you saying the errors documented were crap?
@@robpeterslaypaul sorry man, I get angry at the world sometimes and my only way of lashing out is by being as blunt and mean as possible in RUclips comments under the ridiculous censorship. This comment section and video in particular irked me because although I’m not religious the creeps that cheer on the worldwide symbol for evil as though what he stands for is somehow heroic grosses me out to no end. In regards to your comment I read the book as I’ve read all the books relating to the Manson case and found the author to be rambling on nonsensical jibberish for the entirety of the book. He comes to zero conclusions and unearths zero new information and just strings together a bunch of long winded crap, sort of like my comment to you, in order to sound as though he’s discovered something new and surprising. He didn’t.
@@DumHeather No problem, I definitely get where you're coming from and know how you feel.
The Satanic panic reminds me of a time in my teenage years where my parents showed us illunimnati video essays. I was scared for months, not listening to any artist that was “connected” to them and I even boycotted fast food chains. Until I realized, what I was believing was extreme
super well done, I love how you went from the real world to media analysis, and then neatly tied it back into the real world again by the end
Thank you! That was the hardest part of putting this together, so I'm glad it didn't go unappreciated. 🤗
So I'm about 45 mins into this, and I wanted to say how well written this video is & how nicely you've woven together all the disparate threads that formed the Satanic Panic. Great work! This stuff has been a major hyperfixation of mine since 2019, and I genuinely feel you've covered all the bases.
If anyone else is interested in falling down the rabbit hole, I can recommend these podcasts:
The QAA podcast (formerly QAnon Anonymous)
the Conspirituality podcast, they did a whole mini-series on "Michelle Remembers" & some deep dives into various aspects of the Satanic Panic
Behind the Bastards has done multiple episodes on the Satanic Panic
Knowledge Fight, which is a podcast dedicated to showing how dumb Alex Jones is in general, but since he mostly rants about how Satanic Democrats are coming for your children, I think it still tracks for evidence on how these narratives still remain in the zeitgeist.
THE FACT YOU QUOTED GREEN DAY WITHIN THE FIRST 30 SECONDS OF THE VIDEO MAKES YOU DESERVE AN INSTANT SUB
Why? He didn't mention the Ranones, the Clash, or the Stooges, did he? Green Day is a corporate rock band.
@@schrisdellopoulos9244the Ranones? Do you mean Danones? Or Rannoes?
@@schrisdellopoulos9244let them like what they like
It's an unfortunate fact that whenever someone learns to profit from people's fears, in this country, that it's almost impossible to stop!
I’m very nerdy about the Satanic Panic and you did an excellent job of covering the entire history and making its present-day implications clear. Subscribed!
@AskALibbieist i would be so fricking interested to find out how many people who fell for QANON were little kids whose parents/churches fell for the Satanic Panic .
In my experience, a lot of the kids who were not direct victims, the kids who didn't have "recovered memories" of Satanic Abuse but whose parents, churches, and siblings taught about the nonsense, especially near the end of it being fashionable, didn't ever hear how people were manipulated by hysteria. In fact , again, with my limited experience, they just sort of saw their "war on Satanism" sort of run out of steam and vanish.
Two of the children of people who caused folks to be killed in the Salem "Witch" trials (Samuel May was one) went out of their way to explain that their grandparents were propagating hysteria. I believe this is why it didn't repeat in Salem: religiously raised people said "my grandpa/dad screwed up and none of the killed were witches."
A lot of the "experts" on Satanism during the Satanic Panic just quietly went away as the hysteria was revealed, and I think that since so few owned their parts in it, from the point of view of youngest (and/or dumbest) audience members, Satanic Ritual Abuse was happening,everywhere, then grown-ups whispered about it a bit behind their hands and they were not allowed to discuss it, for reasons no one told them.
I think those people have been primed to believe any nonsense that comes down the pike because the Satanic Panic never ended in their eyes, was absolutely true in their eyes, and they believe that they witnessed some top secret powerful force make people stop mentioning it.
God that was extra long. But not easy to explain.
Another aspect of the end of Satanic Panic was several of the groups that were targeted as being 'secretly Satanic' started doing rapid response group techniques, like calling the cops when an Evangelical speaker claimed they used to be a Satanist and sacrificed children. "Hello, police, this lady says she murdered kids "
Interestingly, those I know who did rapid response were Catholic, Wiccan and non-theistic Satanists... weird bedfellows.
Thanks for making videos like this, more people need to know about this history.
Just a few years ago my daughter's preschool had a parent claim that one of the other parents had followed her daughter into the bathroom and done something inappropriate (there were cameras outside the bathrooms so this was obviously not true). The preschool has been open for over 20 years and had never had a problem like this before, the teachers had never even heard about the Mc Martin case. I sent them links to videos like this to help them understand how dangerous accusation can get. They were very grateful for the information and everything was handled without further trouble. I am very glad that there are videos like this to help people learn from the past.
Tyrion gets a major fact wrong in the Department of Truth: the European witch hunts started with lepers. The Jews came next. Then just about anyone rich or poor.
outing others was considered to be proof of innocence. inquisitions had a tendency to spread.
you are at most 5 degrees of separation from any other human.
Weren't they all poor?
@@snotsleeve5261 the Jews definitely weren’t ever poor.
@@snotsleeve5261some female or Jewish people managed to accrue some wealth and others were envious so they lied about their neighbors in order to have those inconveniently intelligent or fortunate people neutralized.
Awesome first impression of your channel! Definitely subscribing.
Jerry Falwell mention jumped me back to my undergrad in polisci. Twinning the satanic panic and the rise of the religious right was a nice observation.
Interesting point I think I disagree with but it's a good one to make - I don't think "Michelle Remembers" really made people think Satanism was prevalent, but instead honed in on existing fears and gave it a boogeyman for the parental guilt and other nasty bigotry of the 80s. That might be the point you're making but it came across as "all fiction directly influences reality" rather than the more common "reality influences and normalizes ideas into fiction that then go onto further normalize it in the real world".
Awesome channel! One of those one-in-a-blue-moon youtube recommendations that doesn't suck!
not to be too much of a hater but I think we should aim more at teaching media literacy to older people, I don't see younger people spreading misinformation nearly on the same level as genx and older
Which group do YOU identify with? I’m guessing but not telling ☺️
How is this video still up after 5 days? Thought you weren’t allowed to be honest and rational on RUclips lol. This was an excellent video. Thank you.
49:00 how many RUclipsrs are claiming, right now, that EYES WIDE SHUT is in fact an expose of child and woman trafficking rings Kubrick "couldn't" reveal specifically. I don't know what offends me more - their stupidity, or their bad reading of a beautiful movie about marriage and very adult, universal struggles.
@@danakerjbam wow. I had not heard of this specifically.
Satan is a universal struggle.
They literally gave their kid to the cult at the end of the film 😅
@@NPC97536 No. They let their daughter walk ahead so they could have an adult conversation.
The entire cult reading takes the theme of outsiderness and class anxiety, dramatized through the metaphor of an upper class orgy, and twists the movie's actual story beyond recognition.
the story is from a novel written in Vienna over a hundred years ago. He bought the rights in the 60's and tried to make it several times.
Unless the original author had the same goal (and used his orgy to argue this same cabal existed in his time), and Kubrick was somehow able to work on it for decades witthout raising suspicion until he made it, the most famous production of the decade that went months over schedule... the interpretation makes no sense. No offended intended. Believe what you want. But don't put it on Kubrick.
@danakerjbam TL DR. The escalation in the film makes no sense if that's not what was insinuated.
Q is def still around, I get deranged text from my Q uncle in the family group chat all the time
yup, my grandma will randomly say crazy shit that is most definitely Q related to
That sounds like a cream dream dude
I’ve had coworkers who still believe in conspiracy theories, it’s still definitely around.
@@Mad_ox8 Q will rise!
@@footballdesk4417 LOL just like your cock whenever you see Trump!
They were kind of entering the Coke fueled haze in the 80's not really leaving it. They were more so leaving the heroine dze of the 70's so the 80's could make uppers popular. I know this is hair splitting, but the way you worded it was very funny to me.
You did an AMAZING job on this. You're a great storyteller, well researched, clear storyline. I grew up in the 80s. YOU NAILED IT. you even noticed it disappeared for a while, then later...showed the exact same.threads
Time for your meds.
This is such a methodical look at these scares tactics. Will watch more than once.
Loved brand new cherry flavor! I dont see it brought up nearly enough. I've subscribed just off the occult horror media mentioned in the first few minutes. A man of taste, clearly 😂
Byzantine! Fit so well with the opening monologue that I wouldn't have even noticed had you not drawn attention to it.
A tasty video essay while I do inventory? Yes please!
(Thanks man, excited for this one. Take care and keep killing it. Also RIP destiny the game??)
@@weylinwebber4180 thanks brother! And yeah, I haven't touched it since Final Shape
@@Meromorphic witch queen, just gonna analyze the writing bc there was some talent before they got fkin fired. Talk about shooting your nutts off for a good quarter. Bob Chapek was impressed.
This is such an underrated video!!!! I thought this must’ve had literally hundreds of thousands of views
Calm down.
My stepfather got aboard the Q train back in the day. 😔 We don't talk much anymore, especially after my transition, but I *really* hope he's grown out of it.
Funny, he said the same thing.
@@David-ep5omshut up transphobe
Such a great video about a topic I didn’t know I would be this interested in! Another win for Meromorphic!
8 hrs late to this party! But hey, I'm glad to see this release, just in time for spoopy season! Keep on keepin on my man!
Spoopy? What is spoopy?
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 its just another way to say Spooky thats all.
Awesome video. Just wanted to note that the church of Satan and the satanic temple are actually two completely separate groups. The one you reference in this video, started by Anton LaVey, is the church of satan. May be worth making an edit or pinning a comment to prevent any confusion from using the two names interchangeably in your video.
I agree, my mother was effected by movie such as Rosemary's baby, exorcist, the Omen, and many women that probably shouldn't have had kids, she's autistic , effected for worse. I think the impact is huge, after all most people don't read, and most people would rather die than think.
This is amazing but how could you forget about the Satanic Panic going mainstream again in 2021 because of Lil Nas X! lmaooo
Watching later tonight but leaving a like and comment to push video. Nice work as usual man!
So, fun fact for any non Catholics out there: I grew up in a very strict Catholic family and I had to participate in mass as an usher from the time I was 12 til I moved out of the house. They still, to this day, train their ushers to make sure they watch people take and swallow the communion wafer during communion for fear that satanists might attend mass and smuggle out the body of Christ for satanic rituals. I’ve always found that so hilarious. Like yes, as a satanist what I want to do is sit through an ENTIRE Catholic mass just to steal a soggy cracker they tell me is Jesus.
You are one of their successes
Bro the hell? You have the production value of a much larger channel, hope you get there
Some clown always has to post a double edged, passive aggressive "compliment," to RUclips content creators.
You're jealous?
Watching this, I'm reminded of pictures and videos of January 6th, when Trump convinced a ton of his followers to raid the capital so he could retain his presidency. I remember seeing the Q-Anon Shaman, a giddy-looking man attempting to steal a podium while waving at the camera, lots of angry, screaming white people attempting to scale the architecture of the steps with varying degrees of success. But the one image that stuck with me the hardest was them lamely exiting the capital building, namely a little old lady, hand-in-hand with what looked like a cop, being led step-by-step away from the main building itself.
I don't doubt that there are many people who view Q-Anon theories and Trump as actively fighting for the soul of the nation, like a legitimate spiritual battle. But those images of people screaming and smiling as they bum-rush the capital? These aren't serious people. This showcases a relentlessly bored, frustrated, antagonistic society fueled by rampant paranoia of entering into the modern age. Believing that they're "fighting for the soul of the nation" is significantly more thrilling than accepting that immigrants and queers are just people trying to live on this dirtball alongside them. And when they've had their fill of hate-mongering and they think they've punished and terrified enough people, they're expecting a kindly police officer or security guard to take their hand and usher them away from the warzone, knowing that they don't have to clean up the mess they made or suffer any consequences for the harm they've caused.
My parents never believed any of that stuff in the 80s but I never thought about that lol, because when I watch media about it, it feels like everyone fell for it. But like I was there, lots of people were normal. Same as now, most people are kinda normal
Lol, like, and kinda all in one comment. The GED champ of the day!
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 Look at this guy--doesn't know that intelligent and educated people should be able to use colloquialism when socially appropriate!
My mom didn't have a high school diploma, and my grandmother had a GED and a nursing degree, but they never got into this satanic panic bs. My mom had to keep from assaulting someone one time when a neighbor told me at nine years old that was I going to "burn in hell" for playing with toy monkeys and dinosaurs due to "eViLUtioN". This guy was super nuts and an alcoholic who beat his wife and kids. Fortunately she left him and even stopped going to the same church he did.
Saying things like "Anton Lavey was just melodramatic Ayn Rand" makes hard to take that video seriously.
Even wikipedia-tier research would allow anyone to know that substantial parts of the Satanic Bible are ripped off "might makes right" by Ragnar Redbeard, a book a little bit more controversial than "Atlas shrugged".
Also, Anton Lavey role model was none other than PT Barnum, someone that didn't mind creating hoax to scam people.
So painting him as a nice liberal atheist is nonsense. He's more like a boring version of Aleister Crowley.
Thanks! Absolutely the BEST content, I believe, to date!
I had a satanic panic when my local supermarket ran out of joss sticks and patchouli oil! Nightmare
Came to see someone talk about the spooky themes in Longlegs. Left a better person
I enjoyed "Longlegs" the same way I enjoyed Stephen King's "Carrie". In real life religion have always served as a tool of abuse. Be it christianity, islam, buddhism (yup, Buddhist monks do to their disciples what catholic priests unfamously do to their dicsiples as well), or satanism, as in case of some unfamous murders. No matter what one's faith it, someone else may use it as a tool to abuse others. It's true that one religion shouldn't be pitied against another, but it's sadly true that whatever dominant religion is in certain area, that religion paints itself as protagonist, and when some other religion that seeps in as antagonised. And in the name of what ppl believe, they can do every unimaginable stuff. Take Jihadist for example, who literally kill for their faith, but in general Muslims are good guys. Take Jehovah's Witnessess who cut their own family members off their lives as soon as their thought starts to drift away from what the organisation as if they never existed... But they don't do this out of malice, they do it out of what they percieve to be right... I feel like that's what these horrors want to potray. That no matter if You pray to God, to satan, to Buddha, or to Allah, or to pagan Gods or to Krishna, You can both be a protagonist AND a villain in someone else's lives. But I agree that no religion in media is potrayed as one-sidedly malevolent as satanism and like in every other religion's case - it shouldn't be.
You're correct 💯. I've never seen religion move mountains, but I have seen what they do to buildings.
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 true, sadly 😢
not having faith can become a form of faith itself. and without direction other than the state, can become the biggest form of abuse.
It's not religion that does that, it's just authority. You'll find the same story in politics, banks, hippy communities, relations with stoners and their dealers, schools, the military, groups of friends, and on and on and on
@@PLATINUM12x5 true :-( that's why we all should have a sense of ballance in our worldviews.
The devil I pictured is Satan from South Park.
Awesome video, you got a sub from me
Yay! 🙌
This surprisingly excellent video showed up in my feed today, and I'm glad I clicked it. Liked & subscribed.
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On a related note, I just last week had a somewhat relevatory experience on RUclips:
I watched a video about the long-debunked and (I thought) long-forgotten rumor from the 1960's which claimed that Paul McCartney was dead, and that the Beatles were hiding that fact. Then I got to the comments...
I was actually shocked by the number of angry, accusatory comments left by people who clearly still believed this obvious falsehood, and who claimed that it was just one part of a vast conspiracy. This was some really vitriolic, down-the-rabbit-hole stuff from the type of people who gravitate toward these theories: Freemason haters, Q-Anoners, flat-Earthers, Mandela effect nuts, etc. Among these comments, many of which were quite hostile, the one that really struck me was a sincere, if misguided, belief that "most conspiracy theories have turned out to be true."
Feeling like there would be no use in arguing, all I could do was shake my head.
NEEDED THIS! You have a new subscriber!
@@cravingmortalsouls yaaaaay
Lololol love the thumbnail! I heard about this phenomenon, but hadn't looked too much into it... ready to have my mind blown! 🤯
@@elephono73 Thanks! I'm pretty proud of this one
Well that's just great.
An intelligent, well researched and funny video essay.
Subscribed in the first 5 minutes, off to watch the hereditary video.
There goes my weekend.
6:07 so happy to hear someone talk about these graphic novels! They were so well done and such a mindF.
That was an excellent summary of something most people don't even understand. This needs more views. Subbed.
Quality stuff. Keep this up and I'm sure it will inevitably reflect in skyrocketing subscribing counts.
“I picked up department of truth”
I was genuinely not expecting anyone outside of the comic space to have read that and get the underlying message behind it
You're a great writer, very engaging script! Also great presentation
I know you might not see this but, dude this is a spectacular video. Great job! It made me start to empathize with people who genuinely believe in these things. I have almost lost that empathy because of the toxicity of social media
@@doyouwantmore8860 I see you, my friend. Thanks so much! I'm glad it resonated with you
When the media was talking about QAnon all the time, and people online were freaking out about who was or wasn't a Q Anon member, I remember thinking it was a lot like the Satanic Panic. The paranoia about the "far right" has a lot in common with the paranoia about "satanists committing human sacrifices". The people who believed in the Pizzeria Sacrifices also had a lot in common with the fundies who were scared of Dungeons and Dragons in the 80s.
WOW WOW THIS IS SO SPOT ON! I will be sharing via all platforms!
I'd like to thank the satanic panic for driving me to become a "professional" witch
what does this job entail?
@@PLATINUM12x5mostly metaphysical guess work and deep inner healing and growth until this flesh prison fails.
@@roguewolf128what a bunch of bullshit 😂
Ngl my first thiught like two sentences into this video was Department of Truth, the vindication i felt when you brought it up was immeasurable
I lost my ex-fiance to this shit. He went from being right wing (which I can handle) to being full out bigoted: hating trans and gay people, hating black men specifically, believing Jews and Mexicans were being all the bad in America, etc. He started having an unhealthy fascination with one particular side of WWII. He grew paranoid, sometimes waking me up in the middle of the night go interrogate me about whether or not I was going to get a penis installed (??). He accused people he'd known in his classes for years of being Muslim or Jewish, as if either is a bad thing. I had to leave. At 24, I had to move back in with my mom or be homeless. It was terrible.
I'm so sorry. This is awful, but at least you saw the writing on the wall and got out! Also, lmao at him calling it a penis installation.
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Good for him, he left this woman
On should not be unevenly yoked with simpletons
YESSSS NEW VIDDDDD IM SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE
Qanon started after the Cambridge analytica scandal, jim watkins took that, then started qanon with it in 8 chan.
@@morecensoring7364 another that can't handle the truth of where qanon start or how it started. Or are you Jim or Ron? Or are you family or a friend, that gets upset because they got ratted out for starting qanon?
This. Was. BRILLIANT. Thank you so much. Subbed🙌
Really though child molestation was rampant in the 80s and early 90s. If people were honest, a disturbing percentage of kids went through things
Has been and will be - the family as set up and maintained in our society enables and excuses and hides child abuse en mass.
There is hope for my mother, who upon hearing that Trump accused Haitians of eating cats and dogs in Ohio, said "it's not looking good for him. I'm worried."
She's worried that he'll lose, as a supporter, which means she's not braindead
So...hear me out...live-action Powerpuff girl Cage plays HIM
great, i need this now
EXCELLENT VIDEO!! I was OBSESSED with the Satanic Panic about 10 years ago, and I was surprised about just how few of my friends/family had any idea it even happened (that does include people who were alive during the time) I remember telling my mother how the Pizzagate conspiracy just reminded me of the Kern County case, and she had no idea what I was talking about (she was born in 1960 and very conservative) the more people know about these mass panics and the role the media plays in getting everyone worked up, the better off I think we'll be.
Also just subbed! The algo just recommended this to me randomly and I am glad it did!
Very good video, however I think the conclusion is a bit naive, because scapegoating people is humanity's bread and butter. In the EU between WW1 and WW2 a party came slowly in power that scapegoated alot (I think everyone knows who I am talking about). And as you said history is filled with this. All we can hope is that more logically educated people keep helping.
i ve been waiting for this video for almost 3 years. Thanks
2000 years of "witch hunt" tradition keeps going...
this is really good. i actually SAT UP to grab my phone to leave a comment
My apologies to your neck. But thank you so much!
how dare this have so little views
@@aerinschenk I'm gonna write a sternly written letter to the head of RUclips.
Dig the first four minutes of this video ... Hope to find it again next year after i see Nic Cage's best movie in a long time.
I liked this video, until it turned into a message on why free speech should be censored. Free speech is important, no matter who insane the speaker is. If you give up that power to a ruling body, they will only get more strict and never give it back.
Can't even hear "Rome wasn't built in a day" without completing it with "but this 9 millimeter certainly was" in my head. I'm so cooked.
Good vid btw.
This is a really really good video
Dude's straight facing it while literally cosplaying Charlie flipping out about Peppe Silvia. He's got *BOXES* of Pepe!!