My problem with the HR mode is, that I don't really see the difference to the normal 20 Mpix image. You should get a double the linear resolution that you need to actually see a difference, but I only see more as a mushy result than something else. But I don't really care so much about the resolution but the actual color information. That is something I would like to see get better, a true colors. But I can't see that either...
The OM-1 is a great camera. I was hoping they would increase the megapixels to maybe 35Mp and make the lowlight capabilities better. The OM-1 produces very noisy images in some circumstances compared to my nikon D850. Not a problem these days with all the noise removal software. Oh and also include a battery charger!
no no no no.. increasing resolution in such small sensor wont give you better lowlight capabilites.. tbh in every sensor size increasing megapixel is decreasing light capabilites at the same time. soo... giving it 4-5 megapixels at max maybe WON'T RUIN THAT MUCH, but will ruin somehow either way.. so 24-25 mpx would be a good balance.
I don't have a problem with the sensor at the moment, but I do understand that there's a market for larger MP cameras! There's already a few Micro Four Thirds sensors that are above 30mp out there that are placed in Astrophotography cameras and I think they should consider using one of them for a future model.
I agree to a certain degree, there's a few astrophotography models that use micro four thirds sensors and have higher than 30mp sensors. I think the way the circuitry and the way the processor also have a lot to do with this. For example, I own both the Sony FX3 and the Panasonic GH6. While the FX3 is great at 12,800 ISO it's NOT clean at 2000 ISO. BUT the GH6 is actually cleaner at 2000 ISO than the FX3 even if the GH6 is both smaller and have more megapixels. However, the GH6 is native at 2000 ISO and the FX3 is native at 12,800. Reason being is because these are the respective native ISO for each camera. So, if a 30mp MFT sensor had a native ISO set at 12,800 than it would fair much better in lower light.
I thought he was gonna cry when he realized it will not have Olympus written on the top... And he didn't know the current OM-1 did not have 14-bit RAW in Hires, so is that a good thing? And no, all this can't be a firmware update, when you consider it has twice the buffer. Can't add that in a firmware update, and the extra buffer may be needed to get the 14-bit and human AI (whatever that really is) working as good as it could.
i can see this being true to a certain extent, but for video that's not really the issue. Not to mention it's been shown that it misses focus even with single shot AF in certain lighting situations. I'm gonna assume this is the algorithms fault. I used both my OM-1 and E-M1 Mark II in some pretty low light at the same time and the E-M1 Mark II would catch focus MUCH better than the OM-1 and the OM-1 had the latest firmware at the time so there isn't really much of an excuse for it.
@@AlpacoFilms If an OM-1ii is announced, I imagine it will be mostly a rebranding exercise as there must have been a limit on how long OMDS could use the Olympus name. There will be firmware updates, which hopefully will also apply to the OM-1 or it will annoy the existing users, and possibly some incremental internal upgrades as the rumours suggest. Given that OMDS have only been going for a couple of years, anything major seems highly unlikely and, hopefully, they are working on a new Pen-F, which everyone seems to want more than anything else.
Nice, you look like you’re about to chant the Haka though like you’re almost containing yourself speaking. Either way, it be nice if it had internal pro res like the GH6 now we’re talking
THAT would be amazing! The E-M1 Mark III had ProRes RAW external BEFORE any of the GH cameras and I thought that was a sign they were going to start taking video a bit more seriously. They have no other camera in their lineup that would hurt from adding everything unlike Panasonic, Sony, Canon, etc. They literally have nothing else right now. They should just say f**k it and just put everything in their flagship. Yea I was definitely containing a bit honestly. I try to maintain a level head, but when you care about something like a legacy it hurts sometimes to see them faulter a bit. But, luckily this isn't them...this isn't Olympus and honestly if you really look back....Olympus died LONG before they were ever sold.
Yea I share that sentiment, but at the same time. Could they ACTUALLY move more units if they simply gave the OM-1 a firmware update? Historically, that's never the case. They are technically a young company and needs units sold to keep afloat. I'm on the fence with the 9-18. I hope has some useful changes in it otherwise I don't feel that was needed. The 150-600 is very interesting though!
Presumably they have a deadline to stop using the Olympus name, or potentially face licensing fees, so likely just figured they'll make these tweaks at the same time. I'm assuming production of the OM-1 will cease, and only the OM-1ii will be available going forward. If there are truly no other hardware changes (other than the buffer increase) - that could well mean a firmware update for the original could also be on the cards, and they might just be waiting until the announcement/release. We know that when the OM-1 was released, they obviously hadn't really finished or even touched things like face/eye detect (it being separate from the new subject detect), and that general tracking (without subject detect) hadn't been improved - so presumably work on those has continued since release and maybe is just ready now. All hinges on how they pitch this at the announcement, which isn't that far away.
A lot of the camera companies aren’t adding new functionality in firmware updates, and that would include cell phone manufacturers also. We got spoiled for a 5-10 year stretch. With the shrinking camera industry, not sure new functionality in firmware updates makes a lot of business sense.
I have worked with tech products all my career that could have new functions added by firmware updates and Olympus was the standout exception in what they did with the E-M1 Mk II. But, it's not good business sense and those here who own or owned an E-M1 Mk II will probably all say they kept ti longer in part because of the new functions they got for free. I want OMDS to survive and keep making great gear, but they must be profitable to do that, and Olympus sold off their imaging division because they were not making money.
What annoyed me about the OM1 was that human face and I is a totally separate category than AI detect. You have to do two separate actions for something that should be combined into one. I hope they can change this in the next firmware upgrade, although it is highly unlikely
Yea, I'm doubting they'll add anymore features on the OM-1. With it being still carrying the "Olympus" badging I suspect that's it. I do think the OM-1 Mark II will probably get all the firmware updates in the future. But, only time will tell honestly. Regarding the Human Face AF. I totally forgot about that annoyance! I sold my OM-1 a year ago already so there's little things that I completely forgot about!
I agree with you. If the specs are like you say of the OM2, then they should have updated the firmware on the om1 and come up with an upgraded sensor on the om2. Give the consumer more because this camera body will be over 2k. I'm hearing 2.2K. No interest in the camera, spending more money just for supposedly better video? Which will be unproven. Better Buffer, which I don't have an issue with my om1. I think it's going to be the Panasonic G9MKII more pixels, very good video specs for my back up stills, 100-pixel landscape and c4 120p video camera. Just waiting on a test video from another RUclipsr using the G9MKII with the Oly 150-400 pro to confirm video capability. If he says it's go, then I'm in. Luckly, I kept my Panasonic/Leica 100-400 mm native lens so I can use dual stab for slow motion video. BTW Om systems did confirm with an advertisement on the 150-600 lens. Yes, it not a pro lens. Makes sense because most cannot afford 150-400pro tc 1.25.
Yea agreed! Once I heard it was going to be MORE expensive than the OM-1 I thought...NOPE that's going to sway a lot more towards the G9ii or potentially others. It's not enough to sway existing OM-1 users. If anything if I still owned the OM-1, I'd be pretty pissed off! The labeling for OM/Olympus has always bugged me. Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Fuji all have their own "PRO" lenses that have variable apertures. The aperture shouldn't be the signifier of a "PRO" lens. It should be the quality and feature sets of that lens. I find it silly not having the Olympus 100-400 f5-6.3 NOT have sync IS, clutch mechanism, and better weather sealing. But we all know it's just a rebadged Sigma 100-400 but cost 2-3x more since it has the "Olympus" name on it. This new 150-600 is MORE than likely just a rebadged Sigma 150-600. There's already rumors saying that this is all that is and if that truly is the case. I will lose ALL respect for OM Systems for going that route and still charging 3x MORE than the Sigma version.
@@AlpacoFilms I think you are making a lot of assumptions, and we know we don't know all the facts. The sensor in the OM-1 is the most advanced of any MFT camera and most other cameras and hasn't been fully exploited yet. The OM-1 is just now two years old, and due for some updates in such a competitive market. It's a "Mark II" version, not a new camera, so which would you rather have - the current OM-1 or one with some new features? I'll take new features every time. From what we've heard so far, I think the OM-1 Mark II is more to attract converts to OM System and prompt upgrades from the E-M10 & E-M5 userbase than it is to get sales from current OM-1 owners. People toss around the idea of a firmware upgrade doing all kinds of magic improvements just like they are camera engineers, when the truth is that firmware is constrained by the silicone it runs on and the mechanical bits it interacts with. Olympus did more than just slap their name on the 100-400 lens. They added weatherproofing, their MSC super quiet motors. the ZERO anti-glare lens coating, and adapted it to work with the 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters. I'll grant that non-SyncIS support was a big mistake, but that could well be a limitation of the mechanics of the lens design. I do hope this new lens does support SyncIS. If so, I think it will be popular.
@@AlpacoFilms Update I just dropped some coin on a Panasonic G9MKii. I get it tomorrow and sold my backup camera the G9. Now don't get me wrong, my om1 with my 150-400pro lens is my main go to, but not for video. The G9MKii will be my video camera. I still need two cameras because I always hated switching lenses out in the field with the om1. Now I don't have to. Besides, who knows if and when OM systems will figure out video AF tracking. Life is too short. I got an air show in March that the OM1 will fail badly with video. Not stills, just video. Also need 2 cameras Om1 with the 150-400 or the 40-150pro if the high-speed passes are too close and the G9mkii with the P/L 100-400 or the 40-150pro for c4k-60p or 120p video. Think I made the right call.
I agree. It's a terrible mistake. Those wildlife shooters will only buy expensive telephoto lenses. Instead, they should cater to cheap, budget conscious street photographers who only buy sub thousand dollar lenses. That would be a much better business move.
I think that's kinda what they have to do now. There's no way they'll be able to obtain most of the other market. Except for street photography. But, niche marketing CAN do great things for a company as small as they are. Look at Pentax/Ricoh. They've niched down and managed to survive this long. The problem they have now is there are other cameras that are comparable to their own flagship for less money and better more useful features for the general photographer. But, they can still move that needle sticking with the wildlife and nature, I can't say most of them change systems often and that's the advantage they have.
I don't know if I completely agree with that statement about Fuji. They found success with ONE camera because of a TikTok celebrity. There's graphs and data that show this very specific thing happen. Fuji struggled to sell even an 1/8 of the amount of units it sold before this celebrity made it a thing. Hell, look at fuji now...they didn't even beat Canon in the fixed lens market...the market they were SUPPOSED to a major player in. Fuji didn't even place high enough in the mirrorless rankings to be put in print.
@@AlpacoFilms young people all buy Fuji today. Fuji is allegedly the most profitable camera company now. Market share needs time. I will not be surprised if Fuji overtakes Olympus someday.
The features that OM System introduced are at a slow pace and at the same time FF and APS-C manufactures are catching on. You see they have little R&D. Regarding the sensor, I knew the will use it, as the selling at low quantities so the need to recouperate their investment of the sensor through different generations.
For sure! Completely agree with everything you say here! I never expected them to change out the sensor. I really don't mind it even. It's a fine sensor. I suspect that it'll eventually make to more bodies before a new sensor is introduced.
Yea I'm sure it'll shoot prores raw. And that's exactly how I view mft! As a digital equivalent to S16! But here there's so many better options for shooting video and if you're trying to be a narrative filmmaker. Really even the e-m1 mark II will do a great job. If the new OM doesn't line skip the footage it would be something I'd be interested (ever so slightly) but I doubt that'll happen. Since all Olympus camera record line skipped.
I wouldn't say that per se. But definitely the slow down of OM Systems outside of Japan and Europe. They still quite well outside the Americas. I'm never leaving m43. Hell, I just picked up a GH6 myself. In terms of filmmaking it's still my favorite. It's kind of like a digital Super 16 and that is something I enjoy a lot. Plus this sucker was SO CHEAP now. I couldn't even resist!
People are angry because there is no more resolution. No sense. This sensor is great. I'm furious because the "old" OM-1 should get AI to recognize people in the new software..long time ago. The same source claimed that OMDS will release the 50-200 2.8 and 50-250 f4 in 2023, so i highly doubt all these rumors. Of course, the new lens cannot be pro because it doesn't have a fixed aperture. I hope for better afc in video and h264 10 bit. A 14 bit sensor wouldn't help much.Files would be twice as large. Now the om-1 in 25fps mode can take 140-150photos before the buffer runs out and it takes 8 seconds to clear the buffer. And even if the buffer is full, it still shoots 10-11 fps. Of course, you need the right card for this. With 14 bit files, these values would be twice as bad.
Yea it definitely sucks they didn't just do a firmware update! Totally get what you're saying with 14-bit files and the buffer but I don't agree that it's wouldn't help much. Sure it'll be bigger for a buffer but maybe a way to keep it 12-bit for fast shooting. But 14-bit for single shooting. I see the benefits for those that shoot a lot of landscape and real estate.
No, Pen F 2. I’m so tired of their of their wildlife obsession. Definitely getting the next x100 to compliment my 100v. Keep the 100v with 28mm adapter on it. And probably start fazing out all my m4/3 gear slowly over time. But won’t be buying anything new from them.
@@stevenbamford5245 They didn’t go bust. They just gave up on the camera industry and just kept a 5% ownership in the company. They are still making a line of Pen cameras, but seem to be more about wildlife than making another higher end Pen Model again.
The new Fuji 100 model, with its 40mp sensor could kill the m43 stuff, except for the fact it has a fixed lens (but can use the 2 convertors). Still, hard to believe that the sensor can't be bumped to 24mp as a minimum step up. OM Systems will be stuck on 20mp, rebranded lenses, and computational tweaks until it dies, or gets bought.
well ive used both and with the new fuji sensor and it doesnt kill it. Really you can hardly tell a difference in every day use. for me it is all about the looks and aesthetics of the body, i want something looking more like from my teenage years. @@craig_m_mi
My problem with the HR mode is, that I don't really see the difference to the normal 20 Mpix image.
You should get a double the linear resolution that you need to actually see a difference, but I only see more as a mushy result than something else.
But I don't really care so much about the resolution but the actual color information. That is something I would like to see get better, a true colors. But I can't see that either...
Yea high res mode definitely doesn't replace just having a high res sensor!
Agree with the name thing. Olympus sounds and looks way better.
The OM-1 is a great camera. I was hoping they would increase the megapixels to maybe 35Mp and make the lowlight capabilities better. The OM-1 produces very noisy images in some circumstances compared to my nikon D850. Not a problem these days with all the noise removal software. Oh and also include a battery charger!
no no no no.. increasing resolution in such small sensor wont give you better lowlight capabilites.. tbh in every sensor size increasing megapixel is decreasing light capabilites at the same time. soo... giving it 4-5 megapixels at max maybe WON'T RUIN THAT MUCH, but will ruin somehow either way.. so 24-25 mpx would be a good balance.
I don't have a problem with the sensor at the moment, but I do understand that there's a market for larger MP cameras! There's already a few Micro Four Thirds sensors that are above 30mp out there that are placed in Astrophotography cameras and I think they should consider using one of them for a future model.
I agree to a certain degree, there's a few astrophotography models that use micro four thirds sensors and have higher than 30mp sensors. I think the way the circuitry and the way the processor also have a lot to do with this. For example, I own both the Sony FX3 and the Panasonic GH6. While the FX3 is great at 12,800 ISO it's NOT clean at 2000 ISO. BUT the GH6 is actually cleaner at 2000 ISO than the FX3 even if the GH6 is both smaller and have more megapixels. However, the GH6 is native at 2000 ISO and the FX3 is native at 12,800. Reason being is because these are the respective native ISO for each camera. So, if a 30mp MFT sensor had a native ISO set at 12,800 than it would fair much better in lower light.
I thought he was gonna cry when he realized it will not have Olympus written on the top... And he didn't know the current OM-1 did not have 14-bit RAW in Hires, so is that a good thing? And no, all this can't be a firmware update, when you consider it has twice the buffer. Can't add that in a firmware update, and the extra buffer may be needed to get the 14-bit and human AI (whatever that really is) working as good as it could.
Maybe the focusing hiccups are due to running out of RAM, which would imply that doubling the buffer might solve that “for free”
i can see this being true to a certain extent, but for video that's not really the issue. Not to mention it's been shown that it misses focus even with single shot AF in certain lighting situations. I'm gonna assume this is the algorithms fault. I used both my OM-1 and E-M1 Mark II in some pretty low light at the same time and the E-M1 Mark II would catch focus MUCH better than the OM-1 and the OM-1 had the latest firmware at the time so there isn't really much of an excuse for it.
OM System have just confirmed on Instagram that the 150-600 is happening, and a new lens roadmap will be posted soon. No mention of an OM-1 update.
Well hopefully Andrea isn't wrong! But he mention (I think I remember) that he actually saw it!
@@AlpacoFilms If an OM-1ii is announced, I imagine it will be mostly a rebranding exercise as there must have been a limit on how long OMDS could use the Olympus name. There will be firmware updates, which hopefully will also apply to the OM-1 or it will annoy the existing users, and possibly some incremental internal upgrades as the rumours suggest. Given that OMDS have only been going for a couple of years, anything major seems highly unlikely and, hopefully, they are working on a new Pen-F, which everyone seems to want more than anything else.
Nice, you look like you’re about to chant the Haka though like you’re almost containing yourself speaking. Either way, it be nice if it had internal pro res like the GH6 now we’re talking
THAT would be amazing! The E-M1 Mark III had ProRes RAW external BEFORE any of the GH cameras and I thought that was a sign they were going to start taking video a bit more seriously. They have no other camera in their lineup that would hurt from adding everything unlike Panasonic, Sony, Canon, etc. They literally have nothing else right now. They should just say f**k it and just put everything in their flagship. Yea I was definitely containing a bit honestly. I try to maintain a level head, but when you care about something like a legacy it hurts sometimes to see them faulter a bit. But, luckily this isn't them...this isn't Olympus and honestly if you really look back....Olympus died LONG before they were ever sold.
The 150-600 f5-6.3 is from Sigma just like the 100-400mm
I am already working on that video! I wanna see the whole lens before I record it so I can get stills of it do add to the video!
Good to hear your thoughts on the latest OM Systems rumors!
Thanks dude! Great to see you!
I feel like is quite early for a om-2 unless it has minor improvements like Lumix used to do with their GHs, the other lenses makes more sense
Yea I share that sentiment, but at the same time. Could they ACTUALLY move more units if they simply gave the OM-1 a firmware update? Historically, that's never the case. They are technically a young company and needs units sold to keep afloat. I'm on the fence with the 9-18. I hope has some useful changes in it otherwise I don't feel that was needed. The 150-600 is very interesting though!
Presumably they have a deadline to stop using the Olympus name, or potentially face licensing fees, so likely just figured they'll make these tweaks at the same time. I'm assuming production of the OM-1 will cease, and only the OM-1ii will be available going forward. If there are truly no other hardware changes (other than the buffer increase) - that could well mean a firmware update for the original could also be on the cards, and they might just be waiting until the announcement/release.
We know that when the OM-1 was released, they obviously hadn't really finished or even touched things like face/eye detect (it being separate from the new subject detect), and that general tracking (without subject detect) hadn't been improved - so presumably work on those has continued since release and maybe is just ready now. All hinges on how they pitch this at the announcement, which isn't that far away.
@@nightowlnzab that makes a lot of sense. But I still just do not like very much lol BUT it's just a name and doesn't matter as I stated.
@@nightowlnzabWell said.
A lot of the camera companies aren’t adding new functionality in firmware updates, and that would include cell phone manufacturers also. We got spoiled for a 5-10 year stretch. With the shrinking camera industry, not sure new functionality in firmware updates makes a lot of business sense.
I agree, it's why I stated I understand why they have to do what they have to do.
I have worked with tech products all my career that could have new functions added by firmware updates and Olympus was the standout exception in what they did with the E-M1 Mk II. But, it's not good business sense and those here who own or owned an E-M1 Mk II will probably all say they kept ti longer in part because of the new functions they got for free. I want OMDS to survive and keep making great gear, but they must be profitable to do that, and Olympus sold off their imaging division because they were not making money.
Where you get all this info from?
I forgot to mention. I got it all from 43rumors.com
What annoyed me about the OM1 was that human face and I is a totally separate category than AI detect. You have to do two separate actions for something that should be combined into one. I hope they can change this in the next firmware upgrade, although it is highly unlikely
Yea, I'm doubting they'll add anymore features on the OM-1. With it being still carrying the "Olympus" badging I suspect that's it. I do think the OM-1 Mark II will probably get all the firmware updates in the future. But, only time will tell honestly.
Regarding the Human Face AF. I totally forgot about that annoyance! I sold my OM-1 a year ago already so there's little things that I completely forgot about!
I agree with you. If the specs are like you say of the OM2, then they should have updated the firmware on the om1 and come up with an upgraded sensor on the om2. Give the consumer more because this camera body will be over 2k. I'm hearing 2.2K. No interest in the camera, spending more money just for supposedly better video? Which will be unproven. Better Buffer, which I don't have an issue with my om1. I think it's going to be the Panasonic G9MKII more pixels, very good video specs for my back up stills, 100-pixel landscape and c4 120p video camera. Just waiting on a test video from another RUclipsr using the G9MKII with the Oly 150-400 pro to confirm video capability. If he says it's go, then I'm in. Luckly, I kept my Panasonic/Leica 100-400 mm native lens so I can use dual stab for slow motion video. BTW Om systems did confirm with an advertisement on the 150-600 lens. Yes, it not a pro lens. Makes sense because most cannot afford 150-400pro tc 1.25.
Yea agreed! Once I heard it was going to be MORE expensive than the OM-1 I thought...NOPE that's going to sway a lot more towards the G9ii or potentially others. It's not enough to sway existing OM-1 users. If anything if I still owned the OM-1, I'd be pretty pissed off! The labeling for OM/Olympus has always bugged me. Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Fuji all have their own "PRO" lenses that have variable apertures. The aperture shouldn't be the signifier of a "PRO" lens. It should be the quality and feature sets of that lens. I find it silly not having the Olympus 100-400 f5-6.3 NOT have sync IS, clutch mechanism, and better weather sealing. But we all know it's just a rebadged Sigma 100-400 but cost 2-3x more since it has the "Olympus" name on it. This new 150-600 is MORE than likely just a rebadged Sigma 150-600. There's already rumors saying that this is all that is and if that truly is the case. I will lose ALL respect for OM Systems for going that route and still charging 3x MORE than the Sigma version.
@@AlpacoFilms I think you are making a lot of assumptions, and we know we don't know all the facts. The sensor in the OM-1 is the most advanced of any MFT camera and most other cameras and hasn't been fully exploited yet.
The OM-1 is just now two years old, and due for some updates in such a competitive market. It's a "Mark II" version, not a new camera, so which would you rather have - the current OM-1 or one with some new features? I'll take new features every time. From what we've heard so far, I think the OM-1 Mark II is more to attract converts to OM System and prompt upgrades from the E-M10 & E-M5 userbase than it is to get sales from current OM-1 owners.
People toss around the idea of a firmware upgrade doing all kinds of magic improvements just like they are camera engineers, when the truth is that firmware is constrained by the silicone it runs on and the mechanical bits it interacts with.
Olympus did more than just slap their name on the 100-400 lens. They added weatherproofing, their MSC super quiet motors. the ZERO anti-glare lens coating, and adapted it to work with the 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters. I'll grant that non-SyncIS support was a big mistake, but that could well be a limitation of the mechanics of the lens design. I do hope this new lens does support SyncIS. If so, I think it will be popular.
@@AlpacoFilms Update I just dropped some coin on a Panasonic G9MKii. I get it tomorrow and sold my backup camera the G9. Now don't get me wrong, my om1 with my 150-400pro lens is my main go to, but not for video. The G9MKii will be my video camera. I still need two cameras because I always hated switching lenses out in the field with the om1. Now I don't have to. Besides, who knows if and when OM systems will figure out video AF tracking. Life is too short. I got an air show in March that the OM1 will fail badly with video. Not stills, just video. Also need 2 cameras Om1 with the 150-400 or the 40-150pro if the high-speed passes are too close and the G9mkii with the P/L 100-400 or the 40-150pro for c4k-60p or 120p video. Think I made the right call.
A big mistake of Olympus and om system is over obsession with wildlife and nature photography, a niche area.
I agree. It's a terrible mistake. Those wildlife shooters will only buy expensive telephoto lenses. Instead, they should cater to cheap, budget conscious street photographers who only buy sub thousand dollar lenses. That would be a much better business move.
@@HokKan the success of Fujifilm shows the key to run a profitable cameras business is to win the general users, not wildlife and nature photographer.
I think that's kinda what they have to do now. There's no way they'll be able to obtain most of the other market. Except for street photography. But, niche marketing CAN do great things for a company as small as they are. Look at Pentax/Ricoh. They've niched down and managed to survive this long. The problem they have now is there are other cameras that are comparable to their own flagship for less money and better more useful features for the general photographer. But, they can still move that needle sticking with the wildlife and nature, I can't say most of them change systems often and that's the advantage they have.
I don't know if I completely agree with that statement about Fuji. They found success with ONE camera because of a TikTok celebrity. There's graphs and data that show this very specific thing happen. Fuji struggled to sell even an 1/8 of the amount of units it sold before this celebrity made it a thing. Hell, look at fuji now...they didn't even beat Canon in the fixed lens market...the market they were SUPPOSED to a major player in. Fuji didn't even place high enough in the mirrorless rankings to be put in print.
@@AlpacoFilms young people all buy Fuji today. Fuji is allegedly the most profitable camera company now. Market share needs time. I will not be surprised if Fuji overtakes Olympus someday.
The features that OM System introduced are at a slow pace and at the same time FF and APS-C manufactures are catching on. You see they have little R&D. Regarding the sensor, I knew the will use it, as the selling at low quantities so the need to recouperate their investment of the sensor through different generations.
For sure! Completely agree with everything you say here! I never expected them to change out the sensor. I really don't mind it even. It's a fine sensor. I suspect that it'll eventually make to more bodies before a new sensor is introduced.
cool... to shoot with M4/3 in prores RAW is amazing, the best S16mm look I can get with digital advantages!! :)
Yea I'm sure it'll shoot prores raw. And that's exactly how I view mft! As a digital equivalent to S16! But here there's so many better options for shooting video and if you're trying to be a narrative filmmaker. Really even the e-m1 mark II will do a great job. If the new OM doesn't line skip the footage it would be something I'd be interested (ever so slightly) but I doubt that'll happen. Since all Olympus camera record line skipped.
Sounds like the death rattle of m43.
I wouldn't say that per se. But definitely the slow down of OM Systems outside of Japan and Europe. They still quite well outside the Americas. I'm never leaving m43. Hell, I just picked up a GH6 myself. In terms of filmmaking it's still my favorite. It's kind of like a digital Super 16 and that is something I enjoy a lot. Plus this sucker was SO CHEAP now. I couldn't even resist!
People are angry because there is no more resolution. No sense. This sensor is great. I'm furious because the "old" OM-1 should get AI to recognize people in the new software..long time ago.
The same source claimed that OMDS will release the 50-200 2.8 and 50-250 f4 in 2023, so i highly doubt all these rumors. Of course, the new lens cannot be pro because it doesn't have a fixed aperture. I hope for better afc in video and h264 10 bit.
A 14 bit sensor wouldn't help much.Files would be twice as large. Now the om-1 in 25fps mode can take 140-150photos before the buffer runs out and it takes 8 seconds to clear the buffer. And even if the buffer is full, it still shoots 10-11 fps. Of course, you need the right card for this. With 14 bit files, these values would be twice as bad.
Yea it definitely sucks they didn't just do a firmware update! Totally get what you're saying with 14-bit files and the buffer but I don't agree that it's wouldn't help much. Sure it'll be bigger for a buffer but maybe a way to keep it 12-bit for fast shooting. But 14-bit for single shooting. I see the benefits for those that shoot a lot of landscape and real estate.
No, Pen F 2. I’m so tired of their of their wildlife obsession. Definitely getting the next x100 to compliment my 100v. Keep the 100v with 28mm adapter on it. And probably start fazing out all my m4/3 gear slowly over time. But won’t be buying anything new from them.
Yea I get that! They used to really push their street photography stuff. Hell the 17mm 1.8 was designed FOR street photography!
They went bust remember... OM system is a completely different project, there won't be a full range of cameras, this is it.
@@stevenbamford5245 They didn’t go bust. They just gave up on the camera industry and just kept a 5% ownership in the company.
They are still making a line of Pen cameras, but seem to be more about wildlife than making another higher end Pen Model again.
The new Fuji 100 model, with its 40mp sensor could kill the m43 stuff, except for the fact it has a fixed lens (but can use the 2 convertors). Still, hard to believe that the sensor can't be bumped to 24mp as a minimum step up. OM Systems will be stuck on 20mp, rebranded lenses, and computational tweaks until it dies, or gets bought.
well ive used both and with the new fuji sensor and it doesnt kill it. Really you can hardly tell a difference in every day use. for me it is all about the looks and aesthetics of the body, i want something looking more like from my teenage years. @@craig_m_mi