I’ve noticed with her justice-led spirit, her whole thing is trying to disprove colorism itself as an advantage - Directly minimising the damage it causes to her peers. Then wonders why it alienates her from Black folks. THAT’s why she gets off to publicising every disagreement in her life. It’s a Karen-like show of ‘See, ALL black women are the most disrespected, unprotected etc.’ When you use insignificant personal problems as an ‘All Lives Matter’ claim, you don’t just undermine darker peers who have always had it harder than you, but you are revealing very self-absorbed, questionable character. Yes, the world may owe us (Our people) something - She twisted it to the world owes (Me, individually) something. So offputting.
I was told a long time ago; be careful around people that are perpetual victims because eventually you will become the villain in one of their stories.
@Mmabzy7727 I gotta change it or just deletethe whole thing. This ain't the first time I've heard that. I got it from those documentary about this Lion in Africa where it was said to mean, "One who comes with Fire" but sheesh I'm not sure what the issue is. That's my bad. 🙏
The main point for me is how she wants to be addressed privately when people have an issue while she has ZERO problem addressing people publicly when she has an issue.
@@1love847you know i found myself in a situation like this where a group of my coworkers were laughing about the people on 600lb life and a girl was laughing saying “I wouldn’t ever let myself get that big.” I responded and said well a lot, honestly a majority of individuals on 600lb life are eating through their trauma. Some have been either abused, sexually assaulted, neglected, which leads them to use food as a scapegoat. I get told i’m too serious. I don’t get it because they’re laughing at something that’s serious. Yea I wouldn’t change my personality and what i stand for to be accepted.
@@rashidanicole5309 I don't see it like that. She's passionate and sensitive and takes things too personally like a lot of us sometimes. She just may do it a little more often. 😂
👏 I have verbally told those in my "former village" the *exact* reasons why I dont associate/trust/care to be in the presence of...🤷🏾♀️ Some, right down to my own mother ran a background check to "corroborate" my life, career and future endeavors. It's exhausting😮💨🙄
I was an Amanda back in my mid to late twenties, an academic pick me, mad and always right. GIIIRRL I cringe at my old self. Most of my friends believed I was judgmental, and it broke my heart. I changed for the better by remembering to hear my words from other people’s perspective. The problem with Amanda, she conflates the truth as being a deterrent to others, but girl no, it’s you, you do not have tact. You do not know how to communicate your feelings without making others feel small because you are deeply insecure. At a certain point, you gotta have some self-reflection. You SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME PERSON YOU ARE IN YOUR 40s that you were in YOUR 20s or 30s!
I was too! I was in a phd program too until 2020 and dropped out at age 32. I got back into the faith and later baptized and never looked back! I'm glad for growth! You def should not be the same person in your 40s like your 20s and 30s.
@@Philosophicaltroll4u Yes!!!!!! I had to listen to my friends tell me THEIR experience of me. When I reflected, they were right and I actively try to be better. I KNOW they love me so I respect their views and opinion. That’s what makes the difference.
Went to an Amanda Sales show earlier in the spring. I watched her Shay interview and wanted to give her some grace -- but I left getting exactly what everyone's saying about her. The tickets were hefty, and the venue was in a remote and (white) part of town I'd never otherwise go to. It was pouring rain and people still showed up. She made jabs at the AUDIENCE. Not teasing playful ones -- mean ones, when her jokes wouldn't land. I can't imagine being unkind to an audience that paid money to see you and made the effort to show up for you in the rain. She gives Kanye to me a little bit. She's so focused on the hand full of people that don't like her, she burns bridges with all the other people who DO. You're right that she has an abundant, huge career. But clearly there could never be enough validation for her -- enough could only be everybody loving her, all the time. She will always be focused on the handful of negativity, which is a huge sign of some deep rooted insecurity she needs to address PRIVATELY.
This is THE ONLY comment about her in this thread that makes sense.... She's too focused on who ISN'T FOR HER, which is blocking off the warmth from and alienating those who ARE... I feel like she's always known that she was subversive, and it was just part of her act/persona. Somewhere along the way, she has lost track of it though..😢
Amanda Seales is Hollywood's Azealia Banks. Insanely talented, often has a point, but doesn't have the sufficient self awareness to know when and how to properly articulate her thoughts.
Honestly, Azealia Banks be making fun of people and beefing with people that she doesn’t like and does not plan on putting music out with. That is not the same as what Amanda is doing.
Not a graduate degree in AA studies in 2005 and still not understanding colorism in 2024. That's alarming. This was a really comprehensive deep dive. Thanks Jouelzy!
A lot of those in academics are not intelligent or intellectuals. They get these degrees only to pretend that they have superiority over others and not for any true passion for learning or teaching. The way she uses it to talk over others shows that clearly.
Yeah- even if it's something we as activists have engaged in, it's a really important critique to make. Amanda should apologize to her and be grateful for the wisdom
@@juicyparsonsor at least respectful of her perspective. She basically talked about being retraumitized when his image is used and she made it about something else entirely. I almost felt like she was insinuating Ms Rice was coerced or paid off.
@@Blue4626that's exactly what she tried to do. She tried to make it a conspiracy about "them" and in the process invalidated and dehumanized the experience of the person closest to the tragedy. This woman lost her CHILD. Her little boy. She's talking about "bigger picture" but if she had a child she lost and their death was constantly on every screen, news article and radio show in the country, she would feel the same and with her personality, she'd never shut up about it. Funny how she can talk all she wants but she's always trying to silence the truth of others.
Growing up a fat, dark skinned, neurodivergent, Black girl with very afrocentric features, who lived in pwi spaces, I've lived a life where I am always preceived as mean, wrong, or unlikeable - especially when I stand up for myself or point out people's poor actions. So my knee jerk reaction was to push my empathy towards Amanda immediately. But the more I watch of her, the more I see aspects of myself that I had to come to terms with a long time ago. Sometimes people aren't going to like you, your personality, the way you communicate and that's okay. You don't put them on blast, if it's a relationship that you need or want, you show that person empathy that you may have offended them, or hurt them in some way. Whether preceived or real! You offer the olive branch, you have a discussion, YOU apologize, you try to find common ground. If it's a business relationship that common ground should be easy to find. If personal the decision may have to be to part ways, but you can do so in an ethical way. Amanda really needs some introspection. I know she's not sought a clinical diagnosis, but she should start there since she can likely afford it and then maybe seek a new therapist. What I see is a woman who has recognized her issues, but expects everyone else to put up with the way she says it manifests in her relationships. No true accountability on her part. People don't have to put up with your piss poor attitude. Misunderstandings and communication issues are one thing, but just being abrasive, mean and then complaining when people who say they don't want to include you in there spaces is crazy wicked work. And the company that she keeps of the male persuasion is very concerning.
Yes, amazing n articulate dissection of her presentation. However, id also add that u also jus walk away. Society's baseline is 2 gaslight blackwomen & the systemic damage that has caused 4 us 2 always look inside 2 find fault n sum1 elses behavior n try 2 negotiate. No, we need 2 stop negotiating our very own humanity. Just walk away. N that means exactly what it appears 2 mean. Its gonna b a tuff n long journey 2 find a "home" but we def deserve 2 take-up our respective spaces without having 2 ask permission r walk on egg shells. What ive learned is that the purer ur heart is, the more ur an immediate target n this spiritual warfare called "life as a black woman" n it jus doesnt subside r relent 4 any reason. "Just walk away fr the table when love (respect) is not served." -Queen Ancestor Nina Simone 🫂 🤗 🙏🏽
I feel she is constantly in a state of being offended or persecuted. It’s exhausting being around or hearing about someone who always makes their personal and professional grievances public.
My mother is the exact same way. I had to cut her off just to have peace in my life. Amanda reminds me of my mom, which is why I feel bad for her, but I completely understand why people keep their distance from her.
This video taught me a lot. Not only about Amanda but also about how I show up in the world and how I interact with others. “Just because I had a falling out with someone, doesn’t mean they’re like that to everyone.”
Agree. And a friendship with them means EVERYTHING will be about them. Their drama. Who hurt them now. Who said what about them yesterday. Meanwhile they won't even bother to really know how you're doing - not because they don't care, but because they are so caught up in their main character energy.
"IIt's ok with being the villian in other people's stories. Sometimes you have to allow people to exist with their dea of you." A WORD! I like your makeup btw
Getting clinically tested by a board certified Neuropsychologist is indeed expensive and time consuming. I paid $6,500 out of pocket and it took 5 visits and a total of 36 hours of numerous testings, including going back and forth to various physicians to get all of my medical records. (I had to wait 7 months to get this appointment) This is different than going to your Psych NP/PA where they can diagnose you with with a mental condition and then prescribe you medication. Getting clinically diagnosed helps with not only giving you the correct diagnoses/diagnostic code, but also helps you get ALL types of services much faster.
Yes, and for that reason, a lot of people decide to self diagnosis if they suspect when they’re neurodiverse. So, I didn’t think her self diagnosing was a big deal, but her lying about it in the Shay Shay interview confused people that weren’t aware of that people see some self diagnoses as valid.
@@GeezLouise1000her lie wasn’t confusing, it was just a lie. He asked her if she had a clinical diagnosis and she said yes. Ain’t nobody confused. Amanda lied. The true answer to his question was no. She may be neurodivergent, but no doctor or certified clinician told her anything of the sort. She think she’s slick. She told the lie, then a few days later told us we were confused. Bye Amanda.
This point and this conversation is important. I think if she would have expanded on it like you did that would've helped, but she was so instantly and kinda recklessly dismissive of diagnoses it might have turned a lot of people off from even trying! And I get the feeling (of course could be wrong) that Amanda Seales is the type to omit the detail that she probably wouldn't have to pay for these medical services out-of-pocket
As person who's been diagnoses since 4th grade I second this Ik I have dpdr symptoms of depression social anxiety and ocd but the idea of going into a clinical diagnosis for this as an adult I'd rather shi in my hands and clap , I also view self diagnosis as more of a vaige diagnosis bc at the end of he day we don't really know if those anxiety issues might actually be a byproduct of another disorder so I don't view my self diagnosis as a stern one but asmuch as it just describing my symptoms in a more less complicated way to others .
Amanda has the money and the connections to get the diagnosis and get it quickly. She doesn’t want to because she’s probably not on the spectrum and she wouldn’t be allowed to use it as an excuse anymore.
My personal feeling about Amanda is that she never felt black enough because she’s light skin. For that it’s almost like she tries to overcompensate and feels she’s the queen of all blackness.
Amanda’s problem is simple, she isn’t self aware, she always has to be right and she thinks everything is a fight. I kinda had that problem. Always proving how right I was and even though 99% I was right, I realized people don’t like that. I had to learn how to stfu EVEN when I’m right, let other people have it. Even though I wanted to save people me inserting myself and correcting them made me the villain. Amanda is a smart woman, she just has to learn how pick her battles better. I think Wendy Williams said it best that you can’t talk about these people and still want to be amongst them. Either she will stand firm and be anti industry, or she does have to play the game to continue to work. Just because you are right, that doesn’t mean you have to be right all the time.
Stfu is something Im working on too. The older I get the more I realize that (like you said) people don’t want to hear and you have to give space for other people to figure out. Thank you for being vulnerable because I can definitely relate.
Same. I used to love proving people wrong and quite frankly, it was annoying. I now just stfu unless I’m asked for actual feedback. It feels great here and I’m much happier 🤗
That first paragraph hit me in my gut. I recognize that part of myself too. I used to take pride in being a tongue assassin, as I called myself. It made me feel empowered to be right and to shut people down, but it is rooted in deep-seated insecurity. I'm still unpacking to this day. I am very self-aware but change can be hard, especially when feeling triggered.
One thing I will say that I like about Amanda is how much she’s challenging the industry and everyone to be more honest and open with eachother. Because just as much as she wants to be right, if people decide to have a public conversation with her where they may have some good points and perspectives that she’s never considered; I know 100% tht Amanda will be down for that. I like how she’s encouraging honesty from people because that honesty could influence others to be more honest like that. I think YES Amanda should pick and choose her battles if she wants to maintain status quo, but Amanda doesn’t want to maintain status quo. Is she always right? Heck no! But she’s so honest that anyone with enough courage and mutual honest can easily check her and give her another perspective. That’s what I like. Why are we making some of these discussions private? Shoot Erika should’ve corrected Amanda on that public platform. It’s time for celebrity culture to die, and being a normal person to rise. No one is right all the time or makes the most send all of the time or says the best things all of the time, so being intensely honest with eachother is how we destroy and dissipate the tired and deceitful ways of current society. I personally LOVE TO SEE IT! Not cause I agree with everything Amanda says but because I see the useful purpose in her extreme honesty.
I was on Amanda‘s Patreon. I asked her a question and I challenged her and she didn’t like it and she booted me off the Patreon. She told me first that I would address her with respect and my question was not disrespectful. You cannot disagree with or challenge Amanda, even respectfully She thinks she’s right about everything.
She does think she's right about everything. I stopped following her on IG when she said she is fine with just having "yes people" follow her. She routinely takes the time to block and disrespect people who disagree with her on her posts, which paints the pic that everyone praises her telling "the truth". Her intention is admirable but her lack of self-awareness is insufferable.
@@wildflower41 I don’t think it’s admirable. I think what she is doing is cult like and dangerous. When you build an echo chamber where you can only receive praise and anyone who falls out of line is chastised or shunned it sounds like authoritarian behavior and it’s not any better just because we share many of the same views. Amanda cannot get the accolades that she desires from people in her industry so she seeks constant validation online. And she does it by constantly bringing her personal issues to the Internet and when people do that to her, she says no call me privately instead this is a double standard and it’s very common with toxic personality types. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but she showed me who she is and I believe her.
I sadly noticed that. That's why I stopped supporting her on Patreon. I like Amanda and I'll watch and support when a short or a video comes up, but I just find her too hypocritical and condescending for me. And I get exhausted by her focusing on everyone not liking her; I grew up an unlikeable, deeply pained, smart child with a community that didn't understand me, and I had to learn the hard way that some people just didn't like me, and some had valid reasons. I learned to let them be and left them to their comfort and life and I would never speak badly of them. There are many people with her exact same politics and view points whom I can support
Ok I've watched the entire video as someone who loves Amanda, Jouelzy, and Issa Rae (who for me has a very important role and position in Hollywood, and I am very protective of her becaue I see her as the antithesis of Tyler Perry). I knew a lot of this stuff, but the Samaria Rice stuff was new to me and I had to take a break coz I got triggered! And her doubling down years later 😡. But great job, Jouelzy; I love that this was an exploration of Amanda Seales rather than an indictment or attack
I truly suggest not being “protective” or someone you don’t know, even if they are a fellow black woman. it is parasocial, plus if it ever comes out that she did something terrible (you might even feel like she’s not capable of doing anything terrible - which once again speaks volumes about benign parasocial, no shade)
@commandery3584 Wrong tree lol. Besides the fact that I could really like Amanda Seales and fully agree with Jouelzy's critical analysis says everything about me as a stan. I'm a grown woman with very good interpersonal relationships irl and am not online thinking some millionaire needs my protection. I'm just protective of her in the sense that I love how she depicts ordinary black people and I'm rooting for her. I have zero illusions that she's any type of savior or someone who'll never do wrong 🤷🏾♀️
“THE BOLDNESS IS A BYPRODUCT OF PRIVILEGE” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥i appreciate you for sharing so much!! I got slightly worried when you said lightskin people instead of us at first but you came back!!!!
I understand the critic bc I think the way she brought up Tamir rices mom was very wrong and honestly not needed however I do agree with her fact these mainstream media corporations will makesure to trash groots movements its why during the spring you saw nothing but cnn and fox msnbc etc calling the Palestine encampments " anti semitic and violent" yet never focus on the large number of jewish activist there openly expressing their Judaism side by side with Muslims Christians and atheist student/ faculty nor the fact these encampment were being attacked by zionist counter protesters and police using the zionist attacks and false antisemitism accusations as pretext to arrest students mainstream media will have used Tamir rices mom just the same as the likes if Shaun king aka talcum x , using a traumatized grieving mothers call for justice to push their own profit driven agenda that leave no accountability no community building or accountability but hey atleast Patric Cullords(I think that's her name ) has a couple mansions off the blm organization funds .
Amanda Seales reminds me of people who say: "I'm just honest. I say what's on my mind." They want to control other people's responses to them. They want to say what they want without people returning their energy or questioning what they say.
I believe her failure to receive a medical diagnosis of autism derives from the fact that she doesn't want to be told that she indeed does not fall on the spectrum. This would prevent her from further being able to use that as an excuse for her behavior and the problematic aspects of her personality. Great video, Jouelzy!
As a Certified Autism Specialist and a relative of people with autism, I am thoroughly offended by her assertion that she is autistic - especially in the absence of a diagnosis. I can tell she's not autistic. She's just rude and making excuses, and it's incredibly vulgar for her to exploit a condition genuinely experienced by millions
@@petalblossom96 But are u speaking for you or extending a view from a collective? Because I have an autistic nephew and my entire family is involved in his community, and I was questioning the parents and teachers and his therapist, as well as some former students in our group, which has about 5000 members, and the consensus was that self-diagnoses isn't necessarily bad or wrong; Amanda just has to understand that there will be speculation, and she has to understand that she can't pick and choose her illness based on convenience, especially as an adult, which is obviously a different case altogether. And I saw similar threads of reasoning from online communities. I'm not saying ur wrong; I'm just trying to understand different streams of thought from those who are in the field coz very few seemed outright insulted
@@petalblossom96The fact that a "certified autism specialist" is armchair diagnosing a celebrity online and comparing her to family members is not only extremely unprofessional, but a giant red flag. I encourage you to do some self reflection, because this ain't it.
@squirrelsinmykoolaid The fact that you are arguing with a specialist speaks volumes. Even without an assessment, it is clear to me - as a SPECIALIST - that there are clear traits evidencing that she is neurotypical and not on the spectrum. In any case, her reasoning for not seeking a diagnosis is ridiculous, presumptuous, and not the language of anyone who genuinely seeks understanding of her neurological disposition. I have nothing further to add. I said what I said and have nothing to prove to you.
I would have to disagree with this. There are a lot of valid reasons for a (Black) adult woman not to move forward with formal diagnosis, and these reasons are heavily discussed in autism spaces. I have nothing against formal diagnosis and believe they can be helpful if you can access them (which Amanda has the financial resources to do). There is just not enough research on how autism presents in adults, BIPOC, and women or folks assigned female at birth. This leads to a lot of diagnostic disparities due to stereotypes and misconceptions. If you are not a white male child, your chances of accurate diagnosis start to go down if you don't have a well-versed and culturally component professional evaluating you. There are too many anecdotes of people falling into these identity categories being misdiagnosed only to find out later that it was indeed autism. I can tell you from experience that the first time I did a full neurodevelopmental evaluation, I didn't get an autism diagnosis despite scoring within threshold on the autism quotient (plus other evidence that I won't mention here). I later found out from a different medical professional who specializes in autism that I am autistic. At the original appointment, they had me play with children's toys and read children's books to assess me. I was in my mid 20s and they were evaluating me like a toddler. My first diagnostician also said some stereotypes as reasons why they didn't believe I was autistic. Additionally, there are pros and cons to an official diagnosis and for adults with lower support needs the cons usually outweigh the pros. The only benefits Seales would get are 1) confirming what she already suspects with a professional and 2) learning about her brain and habits so that she can learn proper coping skills and grow. If you don't need paperwork for formal accommodations, there really isn't much benefit to going through with the process aside from what I mentioned earlier. There isn't any medication you can take for autism and there is not a cure. There also aren't many resources for autistic adults, especially ones that aren't already publicly available to folks diagnosis or no diagnosis. Related to cons, having this diagnosis formally documented in medical records can open you up to violent discrimination. We live in a very ableist world, and having a disability on your record can be an obstacle for immigrating to another country, can disqualify you from applying for certain jobs (either legally, or illegally if you disclose that), and can be used to take away your medical autonomy and/or be able weaponized in other legal cases like parental custody battles despite one's actual ability to parent. Amanda Seales was acting a mess before autism ever got mentioned and she never needed an excuse to do so or justify her behavior. Being autistic provides absolutely no shield from criticism because we live in a world that doesn't like autistic people. We are forced to assimilate through masking, and if we don't, there are repercussions. This is why it makes no sense in my opinion that she would avoid seeking formal diagnosis simply because she wants to use autism as an excuse for her behavior. People generally don't care, and autistic folks are criticized all of the time for their actions.
Honestly I’ve surprisingly come across a lot of light skinned people who hold the same views Amanda does on colorism in academia. It was shocking to hear my professor say she doesn’t believe it exists in the current day - her evidence being a magazine cover with Serena Williams.
I think her experience replacing the lady in Floetry was truly traumatic or at least imprinted on her, it's like she never really got over that sense of rejection and it has snowballed from there.
I think that black women in particular are really only allowed to inhabit the personality and traits society *allows* and as much as we all talk about being ‘authentic’ and ‘standing on business’ when women and in particular black women don’t conform the system then labels us as ‘unlikeable’ or ‘difficult’. As long as we are in service to everyone else at all times and don’t dare to step outside of the bounds of servitude to society at large everyone is fine and it’s all good. I personally find it fascinating how quick black women are slapped with the *unlikeable label* for little more than having unpopular opinions or going against the grain but men are allowed to act a whole fool literally harming folks and it takes DECADES before anyone will say anything negative about them and only with video evidence or the like. So many of us as black women have had tow the social line or be marked with the unlikeable label and thus exiled, not saying Amanda doesn’t do and say problematic things just that for black women ANY form of unsanctioned behavior is immediately met with a label that can destroy our entire livelihood. And the part that gets me is so many of us have experienced it and will so readily do it to each other knowing the detrimental consequences it holds when we are labeled in such a way.
Agreed. Amanda is unlikeable but so what? I meet successful, unlikeable people every day. Black women getting their livelihoods taken away or character questioned over it is insane. Especially considering there are men who are unlikeable and violent harming people, but we do NOT keep any of this same energy for them.
15 min in i realized this is the first video on Amanda Seales that makes sense to me, that doesn't incite a kneejerk reaction of defensiveness (not of her, moreso of neurodivergent//autistic Black women in general, esp. in this industry; + i guess defensiveness of myself if i'm honest). you get this Amanda thing in a way most people think they do but don't. also, learned//realized some things about myself + my own journey watching this, which was unexpected but always appreciated. speaking of unexpected, i don't really expect comedy from Jouelzy videos but, "i just be like, yea, abolish the lightskins, i get it...abolish us," nearly took me out from choking on my coffee. so. thanks for that i guess. LMAO😅 and seriously, thank you for your wisdom, Jouelzy! i appreciate you + the way you care about Black women. 🖤✊🏾
There are non celebrities that have expressed that working with Amanda Seals was difficult. I don't believe that Black women are supposed to "play nice in the sandbox" for the sake of other people's egos. However, if you're a public figure, celebrity, or someone who works in public spaces, you have to be self aware of your tone and how your messaging/brand comes across to others. If you have conflicts with most people, it's time to do some self reflection and awareness. It seems Amanda doesn't know how to read the room and her personality is off putting to a lot of people. I'm not a fan of Amanda Seals because to me she seems like a perpetual victim of others and she's always being defensive.
my homegirl (non black) was her assistant in or around jan 2024 and she was there for a month. my girl GIVES GRACE but she said "everything they say about her is true. i couldn't do it. she's too mean."
Thanks for such a balanced take! 💛Hopefully, she'll find the peace she needs and makes her platform about her talent and not her grievances moving forward.
She just seems like that co worker who comes into the break room during lunch and everybody grabs their things and leave cause nobody has time for every single light hearted conversation to become a heavy duty, deep, opinionated debate!
She is just a draining individual for most of us and I’m tired of people attempting to make those of us who don’t gravitate towards her feel bad about that.
You don’t have to like her or feel bad. What I find odd is here you are watching a video on someone you find ‘draining’ so you clearly can t get enough either way?
As someone who was MEDICALLY diagnosed with ADHD, anxiety, depression and PTSD, the dismissal of accountability on Amanda’s part of a mental health/autism self diagnosis further exacerbates the lack of empathy for Black women struggling to the point where they are calling 988 every 7-14 business days, because struggling with mental health is considered an “excuse” to almost everyone except for the folks on the crisis hotline and good therapist 😒. Like I WANT to root for everyone Black, but not if they are representing harmful behavior. It’s not like social media allows for us to be individualized with distinct personalities and life experiences.
Yup. I have very similar diagnoses and have many friends on the spectrum. Being ND does NOT remove accountability. Yes, grace is had bc our brains are a little different but you can and should still be held accountable.
Thank you for such a well researched video. I always find takes on Amanda Seales interesting to watch, but this one provided so much information. Her questioning Tamir Rice's mother is disturbing. Which leads me to the point I want to make about her being autistic.What concerns me about Amanda though (from these clips) is she does not show that she has the ability to be wrong or apologize. I don't think that is a trait of autism. I have experienced being misunderstood and mistreated for being blunt so I empathize deeply with others who have had this experience. I am deeply grateful for when others let me know how I've been blunt and are receptive to my feedback as well.
I have 2 kids on the spectrum and highly suspect I have some form of Autism and/or ADHD but only diagnosed with OCD as a child. Anyways one thing me and my kids all have in common is feeling things super deeply that it's devastating if we hurt someone's feelings. Yes it makes us more focused on ourselves however it doesn't make us jump on the defensive and stay there.
It’s the complaining. It doesn’t matter if she’s right or wrong, often her complaints are childish especially when she’s doing it on social media/huge interview platforms/etc. If you felt good about leaving the real, why complain that they didn’t include you? She’s desperate to be praised but rarely praises others… instead, she finds something to dislike about them then makes sure to try to tear them down? On the Vanessa/Issa issue, I agree. Why are you so pressed to be around someone who doesn’t like you and in spaces that don’t want you? It seems there are so many places (at least in the beginning of her career) where she’s celebrated. It’s always odd to me when people want what others have. You went to a party you knew you weren’t invited to then shouted from the mountain tops that you’ve been done wrong when you inserted yourself in a situation that didn’t include you? To sum it up, jealously. Amanda is in a space where she feels she should be more famous/honored than others and that’s what is bothering her. This is the chip on her shoulder she just needs to eat and move forward
I am very confused on what exactly is going on between Vanessa and Amanda. Like why does it matter so much? I have coworkers that don’t like me. And it means nothing! What is Vanessa actually doing to you that is negatively impacting the work environment? Like what work do y’all have to do together? If you are gonna yap, then tell us what Vanessa is doing!!! Her not liking you is not a crime! It’s not something that your boss needs to manage. That seems like a personal matter. And as for the Black party, like Jouelzy said, she needed to go around Vanessa if she was dead set on being at that party. There was another co host that would have vouched for you and got you in!! But she had to be weird about it!
@@PatrickEvina4891 Issa’s publicist is not white though… the bouncer at the door was white. But Issa’s publicist that is beefing with her is a black woman.
I watched to the end. Amanda IS promoting unlikeablity as part of her brand. The reason I became aware of the notion that people don't like Amanda is because Amanda told the world. Hearing her perennial airing out of grievances, I understand why people do not like her.
I notice some comments saying her problem is that she is not self-aware. That may play some role yet I think she is *choosing* to not be self aware. If multiple people are telling you that you make them feel a certain way and you choose to tell them they're wrong that's a choice. I work as a counselor/therapist which requires me to deal with various personalities. I wanted to improve with connecting with different personality types in clients, to maintain client consistency and because I find it a fun challenge. So I researched how to do that (partially because I am also Neurodivergent), not to be "liked" but because it's one of the foundations of curating relationships with others. She may have autism, I wouldn't doubt it *but* her unwillingness to seek a diagnosis gives me the impression she may not, and instead is saying it to shield how she treats others. Why? Because getting a diagnosis requires, reflection, accountability, and perspective shifts, and the *POSSIBILITY OF BEING WRONG* 😂.And I think she is someone who falls into avoiding a diagnosis to avoid looking in the mirror. That's so disheartening because it can further misconceptions about neurodivergence in the black community. E.g. the stigma and the narrative of "Your not ___inserts diagnosis__, your just rude/ lazy/using it as an excuse/ need to pray about it"
One thing I'm done dealing with and I wish folks would address is the slipping into gradiosity coming from the Black Excellence crowd. You see it in entertainment, academia, journalism, middle/upper class activism....some people have enough self awareness to check it but *the way the elitism just drips off* some of these people........ugh no thanks 😒
@evaphillips2102 explain elitism? The idea that when you're around people like Amanda she will subtly remind you that you are poor, you didn't grow up around academics, you don't have access to the same education or entertainment opportunities as someone who grew up in wealthier social circles
Great video! I agree with your points. I noticed that whenever she spoke about not being liked or talking about some conflict, she would bring it to her audience's attention when most had never heard of the conflict. Even in the comment section on some of her posts, there will be so many positive uplifting comments, but she chooses to highlight rude or hateful comments buried in the comment section that likely no one would see. I also remember when she had a conflict with a celebrity and called on her followers to report the celebrity's Instagram page to IG so that it would be removed. I now see this is a pattern, and as you mentioned she is very comfortable being this difficult, unlikeable character as her "brand".
I’ve noticed with her justice-led spirit, her whole thing is trying to disprove colorism itself as an advantage - Directly minimising the damage it causes to her peers. Then wonders why it alienates her from Black folks. THAT’s why she gets off to publicising every disagreement in her life. It’s a Karen-like show of ‘See, *ALL* black women are the most disrespected, unprotected etc.’ When you use insignificant personal matters as an ‘All Lives Matter’ claim, you don’t just undermine darker peers who have always had it harder than you, but you are revealing very self-absorbed, questionable character. Yes, the world may owe us (Our people) something - She twisted it to the world owes (Me, individually) something. So offputting.
That publicist was not trying to ruin Amanda’s career. She simply didn’t want Amanda at her party. Amanda is the one who made this a big thing and told everyone.
I think Amanda likes Amanda a lot and she wants ppl to like her just as much as she likes herself and some ppl don’t and she internalizes that as a flaw in herself.
Y’all noticed the reason WHY Shannon Sharpe invited Amanda to his podcast because she went online talking about how she’s never been invited back to the BET awards etc. They gave her a space to talk and the next day she went back online to say the podcast space wasn’t a safe space for HER! so it’s like at this point she’s exhausting
“Like-ability” is why I had to exit the military the first chance I got. I’m here to do a job and I do it well and you don’t get to bully me because you don’t “like” me. Some of us have this struggle and some of us do not.
I have ADHD, and it's a great thing to know about myself. That led me to a better understanding of myself. I also researched a lot about it while also unpacking childhood trauma. I don't have an adult diagnosis (which I will get at some point 😂), but I was diagnosed as a child and never told until recently. I can tell you one thing, it does not give you an excuse for bad or self-centered behaviors and interactions with other people. It can't and won't excuse your narcissistic tendencies. I don't think Amanda really sees herself...can she sit herself down somewhere and dig real deep... look at the good and the bad and be one with herself. I hope someday she does that for herself and no one else. You've got to be a witness to your contradictions and amend them.
I can see why people would think Amanda is a narcissist. I work in mental health so I know she’s not but I can see why people would say that. She lack’s self awareness and she’s entitled. She feels like people owe her things and I guess no one told her that no one owes you shit in this life. It’s crazy she made it to 40 and no one told her that. Then when she doesn’t get things, she feels slighted and wants to lash out. Desus or Mero don’t OWE you an apology. Issa didn’t OWE it to Amanda to talk to her publicist. No one OWES anything to Amanda.
From Mayo Clinic: Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism. Sounds like Amanda.
@@birdiewolf3497 that fragile ego and her constant double standards reminds me of a diagnosed narcissist that I used to know. She also sees herself as better than others and expects constant adulations and respect even when she refuses to give it to others. She also revels in the pain of others. That is a dark trait of a person who is narcissistic or has other personality disorders that are part of the dark triad. IJS
@@ShyamalaMa313 I don’t believes she acts better than everyone else. Especially since she desperately wants their approval and her ranting was more “why don’t they like me???” And less “you are all beneath me, so you should worship the ground I walk on.” And the double standards probably comes from a lifetime of being rejected by a community she wants to be embraced by and it leads her to immediately jump to the defensive instead of giving people the same nuance and clarity she wishes people give her. It’s why I can believe her autistic diagnosis. Because autistic people are off putting to neurotypical people. They talk about it all the time. They are like, I thought I was being nice and friendly and doing the same thing everyone else is doing, but I get treated like a freak. And no one really explains what went wrong. They just stop talking to me. I don’t think she’s lacking in empathy. Maybe your experience with that person is coloring your perspective.
@@ShyamalaMa313 I don’t think she believes she better than everyone, considering how desperate she is to have people like her. It’s more “why don’t they like me???” And not “ these peasants should worship the ground I walk on! And they aren’t doing that!!” I think your experience with that person is clouding your judgement here. Also the double standards might stem from the rejection sensitivity. NT’s do have a habit of be cruel to NDs. And NDs don’t know what they are doing wrong that upsets people. They believe they are doing the same things and cruelly gets shut down and they wished people would tell them why they react that way to them. When you’ve been hurt by that so many times you think that’s what people are doing all the time. You forget they can have their own context and nuance. And when she got called out she recognized the double standard and is saying she’s willing to do better about that as well.
I LOVE AMANDA SEALES! I love her brilliance!!! And, have defended her often. However, as much as it pains me to admit, there is problematic behavior based on this deep dive. I think she will eventually grow into a space of being less bothered, triggered and publicly responsive about every single thing. Perhaps, keep up with the very intelligent political commentary and the like, yet remain silent when it comes to personal interactions. Lastly, I agree that autism may play a role in her inability to fully comprehend the latter.
I agree. I am ND, and I have always had SO MUCH respect for her work. Even if I don’t agree with some of her takes. That Shannon Sharpe interview triggered TF out of me because of the way he treated her. But, following that one, I peeped how she deals with disagreements. Kicking it with CTG is a huge strike for me. The man is more than problematic…why they keep feeding him platforms is beyond me. I have made missteps in my life, not understanding until later how something I said affected someone else. I have come to realize that my tendency to very quickly judge a situation can be problematic. I have learned to be okay with missing the mark…but I am also more sensitive to the fact that I come off as unattached, reactionary, and rude at times because of the way we communicate on topics we are either “well versed”, or passionate about. We can appear dysregulated. This is why we learn to mask. It makes for easier communication with other people…. But masking is something you learn to do over the course of your life. People who are undiagnosed, untreated…may not even know what “masking” means. If they aren’t used to this, miscommunication can just feel like a way of life…and grappling to figure out why people don’t 🦊 with you can lead to ALL of the wrong conclusions 😂. Learning more about yourself can be a serious revelation. Instead of feeling like an outcast, weirdo, or “know it all” (that, sadly used to be my title…can you tell?😂) you can truly find your own lane, and stop worrying about what people think. It IS a privilege to be able to mask and “present” as neurotypical. Our excitement, hyper-vigilance, and hyper-focus can be exhausting and off-putting, af. Amanda seems to be figuring it out….but in so many cases, PRAGMATISM can be a BW’s best friend. I wish herself, and the rest of us growth. Black folks generally should know more about ND. Amanda might do well to focus that type of energy into something much more positive than listing who has wrong done you. Feeling attacked and “othered” is also a feeling I have had to grapple with…but I don’t feel compelled to work through my feelings on LIVE, chile! 😂 We must accept that two things can true at the same time. People can be wrong, AND you can also be doing TOO much. It is reactionary and short-sited. I am glad we are talking about this! I hope that education and understanding will follow. 💖
@@TheErikaShowI appreciate your word so much I woukd call myself a fan of Amanda tbh of any human I like the work said human makes but I have to remind myself this person is just as I am a flawed individual and complex but I really do appreciate her voice on palestine and on other issues and I really like whay you said in the last paragraph , I really hope she sees it therapist for her autism and teaching her accountability and how to deal with her conflicts with ppl that isn't going live lol .
Amanda needs self awareness omg... its really bad. She needs to take some time to look in the mirror. If everyone doesn't like you, you are the problem.
I never watch long videos, but this one was well-done and went by quickly. I’m glad you pointed out that the narratives around Amanda are perpetuated by Amanda herself. The other people that supposedly don’t like her are never the ones talking about it. I’m also irritated with other BW claiming Amanda’s problems are indicative of the struggles we all face. No. Amanda is Amanda’s problem, and I think if you see a lot of yourself in her, it may be time for self-reflection. If you are always in conflict with others, at some point you have to be mature and do a self-evaluation. Amanda assuming she’s just too brilliant and learned for other Black people to like also leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but that’s a whole other topic. Edit: And I love that you pointed out the downsides of coming to the internet with all your business. I’m so tired of unfollowing folks because they said too much and I know the inevitable clapbacks to meltdown to social media break cycle is about to start.
Eesh, while I knew about her reputation as “difficult”, the latent educational elitism is something I was not aware of. She seems very committed to living up the hype.
@@XeniasWorld I think *she* thinks it’s a defense (ie she is misunderstood because she is simply too ‘quick’ or smart for others to keep up with). I’ve been in academia for awhile and there are absolutely a lot of scholars with this attitude (they tend to be white men), but the most brilliant people I know are intellectually generous and invariably humble about what they DON’T know. Which is quite a lot.
Amanda is the perfect example of right Message, wrong Messaging. Even when her message is correct, the way she goes about communicating her message is often times abrasive, offensive and obnoxious. What makes it even worse is she lacks self awareness.
I’ve met her and gone to a couple Smart Funny & Black shows. I didn’t know that the celebrities were not getting paid wowwwwww. I truly enjoy her commentary on social issues and her intelligence on so many subjects but you crafted this VERY well. I for sure agree. I made it to the end and it was worth it. Thank you! I wonder if she’s seen this.
I appreciate this angle! I wonder if she has ever considered how her being light skinned has allowed her to be perceived as unlikeable, embrace this narrative, and also still be successful.
That is an interesting point because colorism isnt just about being rejected for being dark-skinned its about privileges light skin people get dark skin people would never be afforded ie bein read as unlikable yet still having a booming career.
@@yassine8935 Exactly. It’s fascinating to watch how she has been labeled unlikeable, yet still has been offered a platform to speak about it over and over and over again, while still being supported in her own ventures, as well as given opportunities. I can’t say that I have seen the same for a dark skinned woman who is a celebrity. ** At least not at this magnitude.
@akeria5882 @akeria5882 yes, ma'am. The very act of havn 2 defend what she feels she is (n a lot of women present this way- by the way, ie. the A.B.M. trope) makes the very point. I think we 4get (intended minimizing/dehumanizing) that being on the spectrum is a neuro-developmental condition that absolutely will hav an accompanying PERSONALITY jus like any other (developmental) disability. Personalities are individual and based on ones' environment, nurturing (r lack thereof) and temperament. So...a black woman on the spectrum would absolutely & unequivocally NOT present as a stereotypical case 4 all the reasons that make a black woman a black woman n our society. Furthermore, as a black woman ON THE SPECTRUM; i think I can n will add that nothing was/has nor will evr b easy/normal n my life. I didnt talk until I was 5 or so (they thought I was retarded n tried 2 lobotomize me). I was severely abused n neglected as well- so there's ur nuture/environmental factors that would additionally make any child withdraw even without a neuro-developmental marker. Then developing, I was always introverted and cerebral and would prefer 2 b alone n would b quite fine n this choice. I could interact, but the preference was 2 b alone if at all possible. So, imagine the same world that YOU present 2 as a black woman n how ur EXPECTED 2 effectively b a showpony, a jezebel, r a mammy n when u fail those expectations how ur deemed as uppity, attacked, r jus maligned. Now imagine ur PERSONALITY is that of a proud individual. Those interactions won't sit too well wit'chu; so, u return the same fire fr whence it hailed. Well then, who hav we jus described? So.. im jus sayin 2 hopefully outline my point better that- that woman is mosdef a high-functioning autistic thus she has excelled academically while remaining vigilant 2 societal micro-aggressions (r outright attacks). N when we view this form n the wild we hav been trained 2 view her form as "difficult, uppity, arrogant, mouthy, confrontational, perpetual victim, etc" instead of a fully-actualized HUMAN that happens 2 b a black woman living the same respective experiences as her opposite but that u r trained 2 perceive her boundaries n self-protection as an affront 2 the status quo. Cuz remenber...when 1 enslaved person escaped, the others were usually punished harshly 2 break their will 2 desire freedom. N when this becomes an accepted reality, u no-longer hav 2 physically punish the enslaved...they'll police themselves n train-up their offspring 2 c the world ending at the edge of the property n no-longer desire freedom (whatever it may b). Well, people like us don't see it this way. We dare 2 dream n b free. N if it means we shall take a lotta licks n life then so-be-it, as it could b no-other way as our minds are inherently free n unencumbered by ceilings n walls. Now...wit all this said...does it make her loveable/likeable...it depends on how u view freedom/free-thinkers. An acquired taste, absolutely! But i think we understand that her form is deemed genius n adjacent communities n we jus needta let this woman live n unapologetically b her without people that look like her obliterating her perceived "flawed" humanity. But we can't possibly c another's humanity if we can't even c our own. None of us know it all nor r we perfect. She gon b alrite. 🫂 🤗 🕊🙏🏽
I think the word you were looking for in regards to Jason Lee is sycophant. This was a well-balanced and nuanced take on Amanda Seales and it's appreciated!
I def made it all the way to the end ~ been soooo long since I’ve seen you content. Deeply reminded of a younger 14/15 year old me finding your videos and absorbing so much confidence to go forth and talk my shit to my family members who were locked in with being colorist / color struck ~ present tense me is like oh i didn’t neeeed a light skinned person to validate the shit that i knew to be true about my experience but I know that you being the first light skinned person who wasn’t crass in the gaslighting and dismissal was healing as fuck for me at the tiiime - grateful to come back in contact with the things i missed over here!
Amanda Doesnt Want JUST Success! She Wants Success And Reverence. A Prime Example Is Kim Kardashian Releasing That S*xtape. She Was Already Rich & Known...But She Craved Wealth & FAME. Its Never Enough!
It really seems like she seeks acceptance. Why she struggles to understand the lack of it 🤷🏿♀️ but I'm sure her desire to stand in what she believes is right plays a role
@@XeniasWorldI think you’re right. She wants to be accepted by people who stand in direct opposition to her beliefs. It’s not only that she’s around people she disagrees with some things, some of the people she’s being rejected by and wanting acceptance from are capitalists so I think she’ll always get her feelings hurt. She needs to reorient how she wants her life to be
My father in law is retired from the music industry. His staff hated this lady. She was polite to me, but I was just a young college kid not in the industry. Even back then I could see why they didn’t like her😂, but it was not directed to me. I found her after seeing her on the breakfast club and followed her on IG. At first it was cool, sure her opinion can be sharp but I am not sensitive…. But over the years her desire to be accepted (idc what she says about not caring she does) has made me slowly step away. Her vibe is off and she has gotten so dark that the people that need to listen aren’t listening. My biggest pet peeve is I hate when she is very loud and wrong and how she “apologizes”. I hate how she responds to people in her comments that clearly support her ,but if she disagrees her responses are very off putting, but she hides the rudeness under the guise of being “too smart”. Mind you, I am a child of an azzhole, so I can take alot but my dad knew what he was and didn’t hide behind his intelligence to do so. I haven’t blocked her because there are likable things about her, but I do have her muted because I can only take about 1 or 2 posts per month from her. I actually muted her after the Shay Shay interview because why are you constantly talking about how you want to be treated, but treat others the same way. It’s baffling …..Her lack of social skills/reading the room is her downfall. she always thinks she’s in the righteous position and so argumentative. It’s draining.
I've heard people from New York speak about having to work with her. She is difficult and they can't stand her. I'm shocked she got that role on insecure. She has Karen like antic.
Honestly, the number of intelligent Black women who support Amanda wholeheartedly is mind-boggling. Your intellectual and nuanced take is freaking REFRESHING!!!!!!!!!
Amanda is so exhausting. I think there is something mental going on honestly, like she comes off as living in delusion, she literally cannot see outside of herself.
There’s something about this comment that made me holler out loud . Because this is a fresh perspective, I never thought of it like that like damn the way people treat her for no apparent reason it’s a an attempt at a humbling tactic, but they see they can’t affect her and it makes them even more angry
Nah. You're literally projecting that into people. They can just "not like her". Sounds like you're shooting her some bail, which is cool. But that ain't the reason. It sounds really cool. But it isn't.
Amanda is that girl who when you tell her you don't like her because she always thinks she's the prettiest and smartest woman in the room, turns around and tells you she KNOWS she's always the prettiest and smartest woman in the room.
You did your good work with this Jouelzy! This segment shows growth in your style, format, and analysis. You have been very unbiased in this messaging and you’ve still found a way to include your thoughts without it playing a pivotal role in the rhetoric; that’s a hard thing to do. I just want to acknowledge your growth in balancing your analysis and personal opinion. You’ve slowed your rate and that alone has made it easier to listen andddd for over an hour. I know it’s your channel and you can do and say what you want, however, THIS is a great piece of journalism that can travel well beyond your page.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think I either unfollowed her or took her out of my feed. The level of negativity that comes from her is just too much, like are you every happy like genuinely? I hope she finds peace and joy but whoooo girl maybe silence is best.
I liked her until she started talking so much publicly. If she stuck to her talent then not many would’ve known what’s been going on behind the scenes. I did notice she was shown less on Insecure and wondered why…until she started publicly speaking more and complaining/attacking. I’m like “oh ok ok no wonder”
I feel that Amanda Seales is a contrarian and too individualistic for that industry. Additionally, I don't feel that she gives the same courtesy to others that she wishes she, herself, would like to receive. For example - if you respectfully disagree with her on IG, you get banned forthwith. By doing this, she shuts the door on opportunities to be heard.
@@rashidanicole5309 , you are right! I totally can see her in academia! She actually would be in the majority with her views and thus would not be ostracized/penalized for her pro-Palestinian stance, especially. She is quite vocal about the latter and I feel that has had negative consequences for her.
@@jouelzy lot of negative connotation with that name in the local Black scholarly community especially from BW scholars. Had mentors that have worked with him and did not appreciate him. He set the standard for many, but it usually stops there when they meet him...
The rant about not being invited was actually shortly after her publicist and pretty much entire team dropped her for speaking up about Palestine she also fired her agent for stealing money and he got her blackisted from some comedy clubs so now she’s solely relying on patron which is who the video was addressing. She had a really great interview with Marc Lemont which is where I got this info. I clicked this thinking this was gonna be an interview but this is even more interesting 😂great content from u both
That's the problem with Amanda's fans, you take things as fact. People could have dropped her as friends because of many other reasons but she always chooses to say it's because she's too smart, light skinned, on the right side of some political matter, etc. I used to be a fan but I noticed she never admits actual flaws but loves to point out others flaws.
I think another aspect to consider is that Amanda is now used to being the misunderstood victim. It's easier to blame others for your issues than to look inwards and take accountability for your part in it. Now, she has learned how to monetize her victimhood and created a platform on being disliked. Introspection will take all that away from her so what benefit does she have for being self aware? I used to enjoy her posts but after awhile, it was emotionally exhausting to follow someone who's always posting negative content.
21:12 I peeped that when she said she wanted complex stories about light skin people on Insecure… I was like huh? She really believes light skin people are victims …I also believe she’s jealous of the success of darkskin Issa…
I feel like unlikability always takes the forefront of conversations about black women because of respectability politics. I swear she could say something that’s just basic about the black experience or how she felt meeting someone in the industry and then be dogpiled. Meanwhile Matt rife and a million other genuinely dubious male comedians are “just a comedian” right. Why is the bar for women being discarded never because they’re actually “problematic” but because they want to force this narrative that an outspoken women should be shunned. Please understand I’m not saying she’s perfect by any means. But don’t y’all find it at least a BIT interesting that systems that inadvertently teach us to accept men who have done wrong regardless of being “cancelled” through their continuance to be platformed and monetized, compared to “when a black women isnt everyone’s cup of tea” then the black community will go out of their way to boycott them by any means that they possibly can. (In a way that isn’t seen with people who twitter attempts to cancel for real systemic issues”
Where does Matt Rife come to the internet and complain about not being included in elite rooms? That man says eff y'all and continues making terrible jokes in the rooms that accept him. Thank you for watching 10 minutes of my video!
@@jouelzy I mean he was just a random example to try to clarify the point? And Yes he quite literally does that exact thing you’re claiming he doesn’t do almost CONSTANTLY you can go check his interviews with so many outlets across a span of time??
Thank you for supporting and I apologize for projecting on you. I just do not live in a world where Matt Rife is accepted by Black women. So the idk where the 'y'all' in your comment lands.
@@jouelzy I really appreciate you expressing what you mean, and thank you for your apology, girl! Lemme clarify where the yall was coming from. (I’m from the south so it just comes out sometimes sorry) unfortunately I’ve seen a lot of women of various races support Rife which is so discouraging yknow! So I totally get how you feel of being like that’s YALL not US cause I feel the EXACT same way lol i think that’s why I find it to be so strange seeing the way people like Amanda take support and rooms they’ve been let onto thus far for granted when others wouldn’t get such opportunities including but not limited to other lovely and qualified darkskin women
Amanda's main issue is she's not self aware, and doesn't extend anyone the grace or benefit of the doubt that she wants extended to her. She is EAGER to come to the internet and namedrop and drag, but any criticism against her is "mean and unfair". End of day, don't nobody have to like you. You can be smart, and funny, and talented, and people can still decide that they don't like your personality and don't wanna be around you. It is what it is. It's so juvenile to be throwing fits every 3-5 business days because of that. Cause what did she expect Issa to do to the publicist? Force the woman to like her? The problem is she wanted Issa to choose sides and specifically to choose HER side, and Issa basically said "yall are grown, figure that shxt out". Which I don't blame her. And the Jason Lee read is just comical. It's always funny to me when people choose to be cool with nasty, mean spirited, and problematic people and are okay with them being nasty to others, and then that same nastiness ends up directed at them.
Had to re-upload after copyright claim. If you miss my videos join my Patreon for more exclusive content ✨👉🏽 patreon.com/jouelzy
I’ve noticed with her justice-led spirit, her whole thing is trying to disprove colorism itself as an advantage - Directly minimising the damage it causes to her peers. Then wonders why it alienates her from Black folks.
THAT’s why she gets off to publicising every disagreement in her life. It’s a Karen-like show of ‘See, ALL black women are the most disrespected, unprotected etc.’ When you use insignificant personal problems as an ‘All Lives Matter’ claim, you don’t just undermine darker peers who have always had it harder than you, but you are revealing very self-absorbed, questionable character.
Yes, the world may owe us (Our people) something - She twisted it to the world owes (Me, individually) something. So offputting.
I was told a long time ago; be careful around people that are perpetual victims because eventually you will become the villain in one of their stories.
Oof. I feel that.
💯
Facts. Nothing but facts. You said so simply, yet so loudly
Democrats are the ones you just described
Yes because they're always looking for issues 😩
The large amount of grace and respect Amanda seeks isn’t the same amount she extends to others.
😮!
This is usually the case people who always want praise and grace are self entitled, selfish and want to blame everyone else.
🎯
@@ntwadumela1777I'm sorry but your username is ending me especially for this video 😂😂😂😂
@Mmabzy7727 I gotta change it or just deletethe whole thing. This ain't the first time I've heard that. I got it from those documentary about this Lion in Africa where it was said to mean, "One who comes with Fire" but sheesh I'm not sure what the issue is. That's my bad. 🙏
Amanda isn’t wrong all the time however, she comes across as emotionally exhausting and that’s enough for people to choose not to be around you.
A great way to put it
💯💯💯
I that to but I just don't care, if you don't want your question answered don't ask me.
Yes! I think she puts herself above others who “don’t know” anything which is very like a Neo Liberal indoctrination 😂
Well said, this hits the nail on the head.
The main point for me is how she wants to be addressed privately when people have an issue while she has ZERO problem addressing people publicly when she has an issue.
That part.
She's a hypocrite
Amanda is like that one friend that brings up serious issues at an event that’s supposed to be fun and lighthearted.
Yes! She has a wet blanket vibe
I'm like that too. 😂 I get it. Haters be hating but I got to be me.
@@1love847please don’t be that person
@@1love847you know i found myself in a situation like this where a group of my coworkers were laughing about the people on 600lb life and a girl was laughing saying “I wouldn’t ever let myself get that big.” I responded and said well a lot, honestly a majority of individuals on 600lb life are eating through their trauma. Some have been either abused, sexually assaulted, neglected, which leads them to use food as a scapegoat. I get told i’m too serious. I don’t get it because they’re laughing at something that’s serious. Yea I wouldn’t change my personality and what i stand for to be accepted.
@@rashidanicole5309 I don't see it like that. She's passionate and sensitive and takes things too personally like a lot of us sometimes. She just may do it a little more often. 😂
Am I the only one who appreciates when people who don’t like me choose to not involve me in their lives?
But they turn around and want to know what you are doing after 5 seconds. People are confused 😂😂
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 just ignore them lol
no 😆
100% they’re doing me a favor by not putting in any effort, so I’ll match that energy
👏 I have verbally told those in my "former village" the *exact* reasons why I dont associate/trust/care to be in the presence of...🤷🏾♀️
Some, right down to my own mother ran a background check to "corroborate" my life, career and future endeavors.
It's exhausting😮💨🙄
I was an Amanda back in my mid to late twenties, an academic pick me, mad and always right. GIIIRRL I cringe at my old self. Most of my friends believed I was judgmental, and it broke my heart. I changed for the better by remembering to hear my words from other people’s perspective. The problem with Amanda, she conflates the truth as being a deterrent to others, but girl no, it’s you, you do not have tact. You do not know how to communicate your feelings without making others feel small because you are deeply insecure. At a certain point, you gotta have some self-reflection. You SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME PERSON YOU ARE IN YOUR 40s that you were in YOUR 20s or 30s!
How did you learn to change? Genuinely curious.
I was too! I was in a phd program too until 2020 and dropped out at age 32. I got back into the faith and later baptized and never looked back! I'm glad for growth! You def should not be the same person in your 40s like your 20s and 30s.
@@Philosophicaltroll4u Yes!!!!!! I had to listen to my friends tell me THEIR experience of me. When I reflected, they were right and I actively try to be better. I KNOW they love me so I respect their views and opinion. That’s what makes the difference.
Sheesh 🙏
🔥
i wanted to root for her but chile........
Same
Exactly. I hung on as long as I could with her Instagram posts.
Went to an Amanda Sales show earlier in the spring. I watched her Shay interview and wanted to give her some grace -- but I left getting exactly what everyone's saying about her. The tickets were hefty, and the venue was in a remote and (white) part of town I'd never otherwise go to. It was pouring rain and people still showed up. She made jabs at the AUDIENCE. Not teasing playful ones -- mean ones, when her jokes wouldn't land. I can't imagine being unkind to an audience that paid money to see you and made the effort to show up for you in the rain. She gives Kanye to me a little bit. She's so focused on the hand full of people that don't like her, she burns bridges with all the other people who DO. You're right that she has an abundant, huge career. But clearly there could never be enough validation for her -- enough could only be everybody loving her, all the time. She will always be focused on the handful of negativity, which is a huge sign of some deep rooted insecurity she needs to address PRIVATELY.
This is THE ONLY comment about her in this thread that makes sense....
She's too focused on who ISN'T FOR HER, which is blocking off the warmth from and alienating those who ARE...
I feel like she's always known that she was subversive, and it was just part of her act/persona. Somewhere along the way, she has lost track of it though..😢
Glad I saw this comment cos I’d been wanting to buy tix to one of her shows for awhile.
This resonates
Damn, that was a nice analysis.
“What is the value of public validation for interpersonal conflicts” whewwwww😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨 u ate that
I literally said the same thing wheeeeww as soon as she said that lol
Money and sympathy
tea!
Amanda Seales is Hollywood's Azealia Banks.
Insanely talented, often has a point, but doesn't have the sufficient self awareness to know when and how to properly articulate her thoughts.
insanely?
No she is Not 🇬🇩
Honestly, Azealia Banks be making fun of people and beefing with people that she doesn’t like and does not plan on putting music out with. That is not the same as what Amanda is doing.
I disagree Azealia articulates her thoughts very well 😂
You must come from a very low vibrational community to call her insanely talented
Not a graduate degree in AA studies in 2005 and still not understanding colorism in 2024. That's alarming. This was a really comprehensive deep dive. Thanks Jouelzy!
OR she was just being a lie racial.
A lot of academics have problematic politics… it happens
A lot of those in academics are not intelligent or intellectuals. They get these degrees only to pretend that they have superiority over others and not for any true passion for learning or teaching. The way she uses it to talk over others shows that clearly.
Like what was the point of even studying if you cannot comprehend the dangers of colourism in 2024 and at your big age?Wow!
It is easier to ignore than to accept
Samaria Rice made a VERY valid point and it still stands.
Yeah- even if it's something we as activists have engaged in, it's a really important critique to make. Amanda should apologize to her and be grateful for the wisdom
@@juicyparsonsor at least respectful of her perspective. She basically talked about being retraumitized when his image is used and she made it about something else entirely. I almost felt like she was insinuating Ms Rice was coerced or paid off.
@@Blue4626that's exactly what she tried to do. She tried to make it a conspiracy about "them" and in the process invalidated and dehumanized the experience of the person closest to the tragedy. This woman lost her CHILD. Her little boy. She's talking about "bigger picture" but if she had a child she lost and their death was constantly on every screen, news article and radio show in the country, she would feel the same and with her personality, she'd never shut up about it. Funny how she can talk all she wants but she's always trying to silence the truth of others.
Growing up a fat, dark skinned, neurodivergent, Black girl with very afrocentric features, who lived in pwi spaces, I've lived a life where I am always preceived as mean, wrong, or unlikeable - especially when I stand up for myself or point out people's poor actions. So my knee jerk reaction was to push my empathy towards Amanda immediately. But the more I watch of her, the more I see aspects of myself that I had to come to terms with a long time ago. Sometimes people aren't going to like you, your personality, the way you communicate and that's okay. You don't put them on blast, if it's a relationship that you need or want, you show that person empathy that you may have offended them, or hurt them in some way. Whether preceived or real! You offer the olive branch, you have a discussion, YOU apologize, you try to find common ground. If it's a business relationship that common ground should be easy to find. If personal the decision may have to be to part ways, but you can do so in an ethical way. Amanda really needs some introspection. I know she's not sought a clinical diagnosis, but she should start there since she can likely afford it and then maybe seek a new therapist. What I see is a woman who has recognized her issues, but expects everyone else to put up with the way she says it manifests in her relationships. No true accountability on her part. People don't have to put up with your piss poor attitude. Misunderstandings and communication issues are one thing, but just being abrasive, mean and then complaining when people who say they don't want to include you in there spaces is crazy wicked work.
And the company that she keeps of the male persuasion is very concerning.
Yes, this is it!
Masterfully said.
Im also confronting this, thank you for sharing this, it clicked another piece for me ✨
Yes, amazing n articulate dissection of her presentation. However, id also add that u also jus walk away. Society's baseline is 2 gaslight blackwomen & the systemic damage that has caused 4 us 2 always look inside 2 find fault n sum1 elses behavior n try 2 negotiate. No, we need 2 stop negotiating our very own humanity. Just walk away. N that means exactly what it appears 2 mean. Its gonna b a tuff n long journey 2 find a "home" but we def deserve 2 take-up our respective spaces without having 2 ask permission r walk on egg shells. What ive learned is that the purer ur heart is, the more ur an immediate target n this spiritual warfare called "life as a black woman" n it jus doesnt subside r relent 4 any reason. "Just walk away fr the table when love (respect) is not served." -Queen Ancestor Nina Simone
🫂 🤗 🙏🏽
@@Annoyed_Human 🎯💯🎯💯
I feel she is constantly in a state of being offended or persecuted. It’s exhausting being around or hearing about someone who always makes their personal and professional grievances public.
If she is autistic like she says she is that may be apart of her disability
The whole time I was watching the video I just kept thinking “how is she not tired of herself??” 😭😭
My mother is the exact same way. I had to cut her off just to have peace in my life. Amanda reminds me of my mom, which is why I feel bad for her, but I completely understand why people keep their distance from her.
Talking about toxic masculinity while smiling next to Joe budden lmao
Like MAKE IT MAKE SENSEEEE
This video taught me a lot. Not only about Amanda but also about how I show up in the world and how I interact with others. “Just because I had a falling out with someone, doesn’t mean they’re like that to everyone.”
She is just exhausting. That’s all I got. Amanda Seales and Tamar Braxton are in the same boat for me although they appear radically different.
I have never seen a better comparison. Different ppl, different words, but I leave feeling the same. Tied.
🏆I agree
Agree. And a friendship with them means EVERYTHING will be about them. Their drama. Who hurt them now. Who said what about them yesterday. Meanwhile they won't even bother to really know how you're doing - not because they don't care, but because they are so caught up in their main character energy.
This was summed up well
Yip. So exhausting that's it's beyond talking about
"IIt's ok with being the villian in other people's stories. Sometimes you have to allow people to exist with their dea of you." A WORD! I like your makeup btw
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Getting clinically tested by a board certified Neuropsychologist is indeed expensive and time consuming. I paid $6,500 out of pocket and it took 5 visits and a total of 36 hours of numerous testings, including going back and forth to various physicians to get all of my medical records. (I had to wait 7 months to get this appointment) This is different than going to your Psych NP/PA where they can diagnose you with with a mental condition and then prescribe you medication. Getting clinically diagnosed helps with not only giving you the correct diagnoses/diagnostic code, but also helps you get ALL types of services much faster.
Yes, and for that reason, a lot of people decide to self diagnosis if they suspect when they’re neurodiverse. So, I didn’t think her self diagnosing was a big deal, but her lying about it in the Shay Shay interview confused people that weren’t aware of that people see some self diagnoses as valid.
@@GeezLouise1000her lie wasn’t confusing, it was just a lie. He asked her if she had a clinical diagnosis and she said yes. Ain’t nobody confused. Amanda lied. The true answer to his question was no. She may be neurodivergent, but no doctor or certified clinician told her anything of the sort. She think she’s slick. She told the lie, then a few days later told us we were confused. Bye Amanda.
This point and this conversation is important. I think if she would have expanded on it like you did that would've helped, but she was so instantly and kinda recklessly dismissive of diagnoses it might have turned a lot of people off from even trying! And I get the feeling (of course could be wrong) that Amanda Seales is the type to omit the detail that she probably wouldn't have to pay for these medical services out-of-pocket
As person who's been diagnoses since 4th grade I second this Ik I have dpdr symptoms of depression social anxiety and ocd but the idea of going into a clinical diagnosis for this as an adult I'd rather shi in my hands and clap , I also view self diagnosis as more of a vaige diagnosis bc at the end of he day we don't really know if those anxiety issues might actually be a byproduct of another disorder so I don't view my self diagnosis as a stern one but asmuch as it just describing my symptoms in a more less complicated way to others .
Amanda has the money and the connections to get the diagnosis and get it quickly. She doesn’t want to because she’s probably not on the spectrum and she wouldn’t be allowed to use it as an excuse anymore.
My personal feeling about Amanda is that she never felt black enough because she’s light skin. For that it’s almost like she tries to overcompensate and feels she’s the queen of all blackness.
🎯which is why she CAPES for BM so hard.
That’s usually a bi racial trope. Often light skinnedness is rewarded in the black community.
Amanda’s problem is simple, she isn’t self aware, she always has to be right and she thinks everything is a fight.
I kinda had that problem. Always proving how right I was and even though 99% I was right, I realized people don’t like that. I had to learn how to stfu EVEN when I’m right, let other people have it. Even though I wanted to save people me inserting myself and correcting them made me the villain.
Amanda is a smart woman, she just has to learn how pick her battles better. I think Wendy Williams said it best that you can’t talk about these people and still want to be amongst them. Either she will stand firm and be anti industry, or she does have to play the game to continue to work.
Just because you are right, that doesn’t mean you have to be right all the time.
Stfu is something Im working on too. The older I get the more I realize that (like you said) people don’t want to hear and you have to give space for other people to figure out. Thank you for being vulnerable because I can definitely relate.
Same. I used to love proving people wrong and quite frankly, it was annoying. I now just stfu unless I’m asked for actual feedback. It feels great here and I’m much happier 🤗
That first paragraph hit me in my gut. I recognize that part of myself too. I used to take pride in being a tongue assassin, as I called myself. It made me feel empowered to be right and to shut people down, but it is rooted in deep-seated insecurity. I'm still unpacking to this day. I am very self-aware but change can be hard, especially when feeling triggered.
This is the best take so far. It’s pretty common sense if you ask me 😭😭😭
One thing I will say that I like about Amanda is how much she’s challenging the industry and everyone to be more honest and open with eachother. Because just as much as she wants to be right, if people decide to have a public conversation with her where they may have some good points and perspectives that she’s never considered; I know 100% tht Amanda will be down for that. I like how she’s encouraging honesty from people because that honesty could influence others to be more honest like that. I think YES Amanda should pick and choose her battles if she wants to maintain status quo, but Amanda doesn’t want to maintain status quo. Is she always right? Heck no! But she’s so honest that anyone with enough courage and mutual honest can easily check her and give her another perspective. That’s what I like. Why are we making some of these discussions private? Shoot Erika should’ve corrected Amanda on that public platform. It’s time for celebrity culture to die, and being a normal person to rise. No one is right all the time or makes the most send all of the time or says the best things all of the time, so being intensely honest with eachother is how we destroy and dissipate the tired and deceitful ways of current society. I personally LOVE TO SEE IT! Not cause I agree with everything Amanda says but because I see the useful purpose in her extreme honesty.
I was on Amanda‘s Patreon. I asked her a question and I challenged her and she didn’t like it and she booted me off the Patreon. She told me first that I would address her with respect and my question was not disrespectful. You cannot disagree with or challenge Amanda, even respectfully She thinks she’s right about everything.
What was the question?
She does think she's right about everything. I stopped following her on IG when she said she is fine with just having "yes people" follow her. She routinely takes the time to block and disrespect people who disagree with her on her posts, which paints the pic that everyone praises her telling "the truth". Her intention is admirable but her lack of self-awareness is insufferable.
What did you ask ? Cuz it coulda been some bullshitt 🤷🏾♂️
@@wildflower41 I don’t think it’s admirable. I think what she is doing is cult like and dangerous. When you build an echo chamber where you can only receive praise and anyone who falls out of line is chastised or shunned it sounds like authoritarian behavior and it’s not any better just because we share many of the same views. Amanda cannot get the accolades that she desires from people in her industry so she seeks constant validation online. And she does it by constantly bringing her personal issues to the Internet and when people do that to her, she says no call me privately instead this is a double standard and it’s very common with toxic personality types. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but she showed me who she is and I believe her.
I sadly noticed that. That's why I stopped supporting her on Patreon. I like Amanda and I'll watch and support when a short or a video comes up, but I just find her too hypocritical and condescending for me. And I get exhausted by her focusing on everyone not liking her; I grew up an unlikeable, deeply pained, smart child with a community that didn't understand me, and I had to learn the hard way that some people just didn't like me, and some had valid reasons. I learned to let them be and left them to their comfort and life and I would never speak badly of them. There are many people with her exact same politics and view points whom I can support
I appreciate someone light skinned calling out sus takes on colorism, especially as a dark skinned black femme. It’s wild out here.
Ok I've watched the entire video as someone who loves Amanda, Jouelzy, and Issa Rae (who for me has a very important role and position in Hollywood, and I am very protective of her becaue I see her as the antithesis of Tyler Perry). I knew a lot of this stuff, but the Samaria Rice stuff was new to me and I had to take a break coz I got triggered! And her doubling down years later 😡. But great job, Jouelzy; I love that this was an exploration of Amanda Seales rather than an indictment or attack
Same, I admire all three women! Joulezy did her big one with this!
🫶🏾felt
I truly suggest not being “protective” or someone you don’t know, even if they are a fellow black woman. it is parasocial, plus if it ever comes out that she did something terrible (you might even feel like she’s not capable of doing anything terrible - which once again speaks volumes about benign parasocial, no shade)
@commandery3584 Wrong tree lol. Besides the fact that I could really like Amanda Seales and fully agree with Jouelzy's critical analysis says everything about me as a stan. I'm a grown woman with very good interpersonal relationships irl and am not online thinking some millionaire needs my protection. I'm just protective of her in the sense that I love how she depicts ordinary black people and I'm rooting for her. I have zero illusions that she's any type of savior or someone who'll never do wrong 🤷🏾♀️
“THE BOLDNESS IS A BYPRODUCT OF PRIVILEGE” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥i appreciate you for sharing so much!! I got slightly worried when you said lightskin people instead of us at first but you came back!!!!
She caped for a whole capitalist, Jay Z but she goes at a victim of state violence, Tamir Rice mama? Where they do that at????
hollywood
I understand the critic bc I think the way she brought up Tamir rices mom was very wrong and honestly not needed however I do agree with her fact these mainstream media corporations will makesure to trash groots movements its why during the spring you saw nothing but cnn and fox msnbc etc calling the Palestine encampments " anti semitic and violent" yet never focus on the large number of jewish activist there openly expressing their Judaism side by side with Muslims Christians and atheist student/ faculty nor the fact these encampment were being attacked by zionist counter protesters and police using the zionist attacks and false antisemitism accusations as pretext to arrest students mainstream media will have used Tamir rices mom just the same as the likes if Shaun king aka talcum x , using a traumatized grieving mothers call for justice to push their own profit driven agenda that leave no accountability no community building or accountability but hey atleast Patric Cullords(I think that's her name ) has a couple mansions off the blm organization funds .
😭 not where they do that at 😭 literally tho like... what
This. 😂
@@Laura-sg6ss she weird for that. Then on top of that she cool with an abuser like Joe Budden
Like where is your consistency morally 🤷🏾♂️
Amanda Seales reminds me of people who say: "I'm just honest. I say what's on my mind." They want to control other people's responses to them. They want to say what they want without people returning their energy or questioning what they say.
Absolute facts!!{
I believe her failure to receive a medical diagnosis of autism derives from the fact that she doesn't want to be told that she indeed does not fall on the spectrum. This would prevent her from further being able to use that as an excuse for her behavior and the problematic aspects of her personality. Great video, Jouelzy!
As a Certified Autism Specialist and a relative of people with autism, I am thoroughly offended by her assertion that she is autistic - especially in the absence of a diagnosis. I can tell she's not autistic. She's just rude and making excuses, and it's incredibly vulgar for her to exploit a condition genuinely experienced by millions
@@petalblossom96 But are u speaking for you or extending a view from a collective? Because I have an autistic nephew and my entire family is involved in his community, and I was questioning the parents and teachers and his therapist, as well as some former students in our group, which has about 5000 members, and the consensus was that self-diagnoses isn't necessarily bad or wrong; Amanda just has to understand that there will be speculation, and she has to understand that she can't pick and choose her illness based on convenience, especially as an adult, which is obviously a different case altogether. And I saw similar threads of reasoning from online communities. I'm not saying ur wrong; I'm just trying to understand different streams of thought from those who are in the field coz very few seemed outright insulted
@@petalblossom96The fact that a "certified autism specialist" is armchair diagnosing a celebrity online and comparing her to family members is not only extremely unprofessional, but a giant red flag. I encourage you to do some self reflection, because this ain't it.
@squirrelsinmykoolaid The fact that you are arguing with a specialist speaks volumes. Even without an assessment, it is clear to me - as a SPECIALIST - that there are clear traits evidencing that she is neurotypical and not on the spectrum. In any case, her reasoning for not seeking a diagnosis is ridiculous, presumptuous, and not the language of anyone who genuinely seeks understanding of her neurological disposition. I have nothing further to add. I said what I said and have nothing to prove to you.
I would have to disagree with this. There are a lot of valid reasons for a (Black) adult woman not to move forward with formal diagnosis, and these reasons are heavily discussed in autism spaces. I have nothing against formal diagnosis and believe they can be helpful if you can access them (which Amanda has the financial resources to do).
There is just not enough research on how autism presents in adults, BIPOC, and women or folks assigned female at birth. This leads to a lot of diagnostic disparities due to stereotypes and misconceptions. If you are not a white male child, your chances of accurate diagnosis start to go down if you don't have a well-versed and culturally component professional evaluating you. There are too many anecdotes of people falling into these identity categories being misdiagnosed only to find out later that it was indeed autism. I can tell you from experience that the first time I did a full neurodevelopmental evaluation, I didn't get an autism diagnosis despite scoring within threshold on the autism quotient (plus other evidence that I won't mention here).
I later found out from a different medical professional who specializes in autism that I am autistic. At the original appointment, they had me play with children's toys and read children's books to assess me. I was in my mid 20s and they were evaluating me like a toddler. My first diagnostician also said some stereotypes as reasons why they didn't believe I was autistic.
Additionally, there are pros and cons to an official diagnosis and for adults with lower support needs the cons usually outweigh the pros. The only benefits Seales would get are 1) confirming what she already suspects with a professional and 2) learning about her brain and habits so that she can learn proper coping skills and grow.
If you don't need paperwork for formal accommodations, there really isn't much benefit to going through with the process aside from what I mentioned earlier. There isn't any medication you can take for autism and there is not a cure. There also aren't many resources for autistic adults, especially ones that aren't already publicly available to folks diagnosis or no diagnosis.
Related to cons, having this diagnosis formally documented in medical records can open you up to violent discrimination. We live in a very ableist world, and having a disability on your record can be an obstacle for immigrating to another country, can disqualify you from applying for certain jobs (either legally, or illegally if you disclose that), and can be used to take away your medical autonomy and/or be able weaponized in other legal cases like parental custody battles despite one's actual ability to parent.
Amanda Seales was acting a mess before autism ever got mentioned and she never needed an excuse to do so or justify her behavior. Being autistic provides absolutely no shield from criticism because we live in a world that doesn't like autistic people. We are forced to assimilate through masking, and if we don't, there are repercussions. This is why it makes no sense in my opinion that she would avoid seeking formal diagnosis simply because she wants to use autism as an excuse for her behavior. People generally don't care, and autistic folks are criticized all of the time for their actions.
Honestly I’ve surprisingly come across a lot of light skinned people who hold the same views Amanda does on colorism in academia. It was shocking to hear my professor say she doesn’t believe it exists in the current day - her evidence being a magazine cover with Serena Williams.
I think her experience replacing the lady in Floetry was truly traumatic or at least imprinted on her, it's like she never really got over that sense of rejection and it has snowballed from there.
I think that black women in particular are really only allowed to inhabit the personality and traits society *allows* and as much as we all talk about being ‘authentic’ and ‘standing on business’ when women and in particular black women don’t conform the system then labels us as ‘unlikeable’ or ‘difficult’.
As long as we are in service to everyone else at all times and don’t dare to step outside of the bounds of servitude to society at large everyone is fine and it’s all good.
I personally find it fascinating how quick black women are slapped with the *unlikeable label* for little more than having unpopular opinions or going against the grain but men are allowed to act a whole fool literally harming folks and it takes DECADES before anyone will say anything negative about them and only with video evidence or the like.
So many of us as black women have had tow the social line or be marked with the unlikeable label and thus exiled, not saying Amanda doesn’t do and say problematic things just that for black women ANY form of unsanctioned behavior is immediately met with a label that can destroy our entire livelihood.
And the part that gets me is so many of us have experienced it and will so readily do it to each other knowing the detrimental consequences it holds when we are labeled in such a way.
This.
🎯🎯🎯✨
Agreed. Amanda is unlikeable but so what? I meet successful, unlikeable people every day. Black women getting their livelihoods taken away or character questioned over it is insane. Especially considering there are men who are unlikeable and violent harming people, but we do NOT keep any of this same energy for them.
This this this
I'm ready for this one!
15 min in i realized this is the first video on Amanda Seales that makes sense to me, that doesn't incite a kneejerk reaction of defensiveness (not of her, moreso of neurodivergent//autistic Black women in general, esp. in this industry; + i guess defensiveness of myself if i'm honest). you get this Amanda thing in a way most people think they do but don't.
also, learned//realized some things about myself + my own journey watching this, which was unexpected but always appreciated. speaking of unexpected, i don't really expect comedy from Jouelzy videos but, "i just be like, yea, abolish the lightskins, i get it...abolish us," nearly took me out from choking on my coffee. so. thanks for that i guess. LMAO😅
and seriously, thank you for your wisdom, Jouelzy! i appreciate you + the way you care about Black women. 🖤✊🏾
This means so much coming from you. Tysm 💕💕💕💕
@@jouelzy 🖤🖤✊🏾🖤
GREAT VIDEO
Please do a Tiffany Haddish video!!!!!! Especially with this latest Hilton buffoonery.
I'm currently working on it!
“Sometime you have to allow people to exist with the idea of you.” That’s it.
no but actually this sentence like rewired my brain, like I felt a weight off my shoulders
@@Tombuuleryseriously. Something I needed to hear.
There are non celebrities that have expressed that working with Amanda Seals was difficult. I don't believe that Black women are supposed to "play nice in the sandbox" for the sake of other people's egos. However, if you're a public figure, celebrity, or someone who works in public spaces, you have to be self aware of your tone and how your messaging/brand comes across to others.
If you have conflicts with most people, it's time to do some self reflection and awareness. It seems Amanda doesn't know how to read the room and her personality is off putting to a lot of people. I'm not a fan of Amanda Seals because to me she seems like a perpetual victim of others and she's always being defensive.
It’s the discourse we love to see. I wish the best for Amanda especially maturity and better judgement.
my homegirl (non black) was her assistant in or around jan 2024 and she was there for a month. my girl GIVES GRACE but she said "everything they say about her is true. i couldn't do it. she's too mean."
Thanks for such a balanced take! 💛Hopefully, she'll find the peace she needs and makes her platform about her talent and not her grievances moving forward.
She will be just trust me . Over five hundred people on here commenting about Amanda unbelievable!
She just seems like that co worker who comes into the break room during lunch and everybody grabs their things and leave cause nobody has time for every single light hearted conversation to become a heavy duty, deep, opinionated debate!
😂
She is just a draining individual for most of us and I’m tired of people attempting to make those of us who don’t gravitate towards her feel bad about that.
You don’t have to like her or feel bad. What I find odd is here you are watching a video on someone you find ‘draining’ so you clearly can t get enough either way?
As someone who was MEDICALLY diagnosed with ADHD, anxiety, depression and PTSD, the dismissal of accountability on Amanda’s part of a mental health/autism self diagnosis further exacerbates the lack of empathy for Black women struggling to the point where they are calling 988 every 7-14 business days, because struggling with mental health is considered an “excuse” to almost everyone except for the folks on the crisis hotline and good therapist 😒.
Like I WANT to root for everyone Black, but not if they are representing harmful behavior. It’s not like social media allows for us to be individualized with distinct personalities and life experiences.
Yup. I have very similar diagnoses and have many friends on the spectrum. Being ND does NOT remove accountability. Yes, grace is had bc our brains are a little different but you can and should still be held accountable.
That Ericka Hart situation is insane. She definitely deserves an apology. Wtf
This was the best commentary video on this topic, I've seen.
Glad you enjoyed it
you said aba and Peach 😂😂❤
Thank you for such a well researched video. I always find takes on Amanda Seales interesting to watch, but this one provided so much information. Her questioning Tamir Rice's mother is disturbing. Which leads me to the point I want to make about her being autistic.What concerns me about Amanda though (from these clips) is she does not show that she has the ability to be wrong or apologize. I don't think that is a trait of autism.
I have experienced being misunderstood and mistreated for being blunt so I empathize deeply with others who have had this experience. I am deeply grateful for when others let me know how I've been blunt and are receptive to my feedback as well.
I have 2 kids on the spectrum and highly suspect I have some form of Autism and/or ADHD but only diagnosed with OCD as a child. Anyways one thing me and my kids all have in common is feeling things super deeply that it's devastating if we hurt someone's feelings. Yes it makes us more focused on ourselves however it doesn't make us jump on the defensive and stay there.
It’s the complaining. It doesn’t matter if she’s right or wrong, often her complaints are childish especially when she’s doing it on social media/huge interview platforms/etc. If you felt good about leaving the real, why complain that they didn’t include you? She’s desperate to be praised but rarely praises others… instead, she finds something to dislike about them then makes sure to try to tear them down?
On the Vanessa/Issa issue, I agree. Why are you so pressed to be around someone who doesn’t like you and in spaces that don’t want you? It seems there are so many places (at least in the beginning of her career) where she’s celebrated. It’s always odd to me when people want what others have. You went to a party you knew you weren’t invited to then shouted from the mountain tops that you’ve been done wrong when you inserted yourself in a situation that didn’t include you? To sum it up, jealously. Amanda is in a space where she feels she should be more famous/honored than others and that’s what is bothering her. This is the chip on her shoulder she just needs to eat and move forward
I am very confused on what exactly is going on between Vanessa and Amanda. Like why does it matter so much? I have coworkers that don’t like me. And it means nothing! What is Vanessa actually doing to you that is negatively impacting the work environment? Like what work do y’all have to do together? If you are gonna yap, then tell us what Vanessa is doing!!! Her not liking you is not a crime! It’s not something that your boss needs to manage. That seems like a personal matter. And as for the Black party, like Jouelzy said, she needed to go around Vanessa if she was dead set on being at that party. There was another co host that would have vouched for you and got you in!! But she had to be weird about it!
@@PatrickEvina4891 Issa’s publicist is not white though… the bouncer at the door was white. But Issa’s publicist that is beefing with her is a black woman.
I watched to the end. Amanda IS promoting unlikeablity as part of her brand. The reason I became aware of the notion that people don't like Amanda is because Amanda told the world. Hearing her perennial airing out of grievances, I understand why people do not like her.
Her Instagram bio used to be "I'm not everyone's cup of tea" just to hammer the point
She has risen
Amanda?
I notice some comments saying her problem is that she is not self-aware. That may play some role yet I think she is *choosing* to not be self aware. If multiple people are telling you that you make them feel a certain way and you choose to tell them they're wrong that's a choice. I work as a counselor/therapist which requires me to deal with various personalities. I wanted to improve with connecting with different personality types in clients, to maintain client consistency and because I find it a fun challenge. So I researched how to do that (partially because I am also Neurodivergent), not to be "liked" but because it's one of the foundations of curating relationships with others.
She may have autism, I wouldn't doubt it *but* her unwillingness to seek a diagnosis gives me the impression she may not, and instead is saying it to shield how she treats others. Why? Because getting a diagnosis requires, reflection, accountability, and perspective shifts, and the *POSSIBILITY OF BEING WRONG* 😂.And I think she is someone who falls into avoiding a diagnosis to avoid looking in the mirror. That's so disheartening because it can further misconceptions about neurodivergence in the black community. E.g. the stigma and the narrative of "Your not ___inserts diagnosis__, your just rude/ lazy/using it as an excuse/ need to pray about it"
One thing I'm done dealing with and I wish folks would address is the slipping into gradiosity coming from the Black Excellence crowd. You see it in entertainment, academia, journalism, middle/upper class activism....some people have enough self awareness to check it but *the way the elitism just drips off* some of these people........ugh no thanks 😒
this is it!!! My exact points, I'm tired of it too.
What do you mean? Can someone explain this?
She thinks she's the talented 10th and it's her duty to uplift Black people
@evaphillips2102 explain elitism? The idea that when you're around people like Amanda she will subtly remind you that you are poor, you didn't grow up around academics, you don't have access to the same education or entertainment opportunities as someone who grew up in wealthier social circles
Truth!
Great video! I agree with your points. I noticed that whenever she spoke about not being liked or talking about some conflict, she would bring it to her audience's attention when most had never heard of the conflict. Even in the comment section on some of her posts, there will be so many positive uplifting comments, but she chooses to highlight rude or hateful comments buried in the comment section that likely no one would see. I also remember when she had a conflict with a celebrity and called on her followers to report the celebrity's Instagram page to IG so that it would be removed. I now see this is a pattern, and as you mentioned she is very comfortable being this difficult, unlikeable character as her "brand".
I’ve noticed with her justice-led spirit, her whole thing is trying to disprove colorism itself as an advantage - Directly minimising the damage it causes to her peers. Then wonders why it alienates her from Black folks.
THAT’s why she gets off to publicising every disagreement in her life. It’s a Karen-like show of ‘See, *ALL* black women are the most disrespected, unprotected etc.’ When you use insignificant personal matters as an ‘All Lives Matter’ claim, you don’t just undermine darker peers who have always had it harder than you, but you are revealing very self-absorbed, questionable character.
Yes, the world may owe us (Our people) something - She twisted it to the world owes (Me, individually) something. So offputting.
That publicist was not trying to ruin Amanda’s career. She simply didn’t want Amanda at her party. Amanda is the one who made this a big thing and told everyone.
Seems like RSD, Rejection Sensitivity Disorder also common with Autistic /Neurodivergent folks
Amanda doesn’t like Amanda which is why she behaves this way, just my opinion. 🤷🏾♀️
💯💯💯
I think Amanda likes Amanda a lot and she wants ppl to like her just as much as she likes herself and some ppl don’t and she internalizes that as a flaw in herself.
@@clodia1834 That’s valid and I can see that as well 🙏🏾
@@clodia1834which inherently makes her not like her self.
Y’all noticed the reason WHY Shannon Sharpe invited Amanda to his podcast because she went online talking about how she’s never been invited back to the BET awards etc.
They gave her a space to talk and the next day she went back online to say the podcast space wasn’t a safe space for HER! so it’s like at this point she’s exhausting
Sheesh about halfway thru the vid and not only is it tea but makes me think inward about my feelings on validation. Excellent piece
“Like-ability” is why I had to exit the military the first chance I got. I’m here to do a job and I do it well and you don’t get to bully me because you don’t “like” me. Some of us have this struggle and some of us do not.
Get so sick of having to be "likeable". Such a misogynist lens. Never heard a man being called out for not being likeable.
I have ADHD, and it's a great thing to know about myself. That led me to a better understanding of myself. I also researched a lot about it while also unpacking childhood trauma. I don't have an adult diagnosis (which I will get at some point 😂), but I was diagnosed as a child and never told until recently. I can tell you one thing, it does not give you an excuse for bad or self-centered behaviors and interactions with other people. It can't and won't excuse your narcissistic tendencies.
I don't think Amanda really sees herself...can she sit herself down somewhere and dig real deep... look at the good and the bad and be one with herself. I hope someday she does that for herself and no one else. You've got to be a witness to your contradictions and amend them.
I can see why people would think Amanda is a narcissist. I work in mental health so I know she’s not but I can see why people would say that. She lack’s self awareness and she’s entitled. She feels like people owe her things and I guess no one told her that no one owes you shit in this life. It’s crazy she made it to 40 and no one told her that. Then when she doesn’t get things, she feels slighted and wants to lash out. Desus or Mero don’t OWE you an apology. Issa didn’t OWE it to Amanda to talk to her publicist. No one OWES anything to Amanda.
From Mayo Clinic: Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence, they are not sure of their self-worth and are easily upset by the slightest criticism.
Sounds like Amanda.
She definitely has traits, but I wouldn’t call her a narcissist.
@@birdiewolf3497 that fragile ego and her constant double standards reminds me of a diagnosed narcissist that I used to know. She also sees herself as better than others and expects constant adulations and respect even when she refuses to give it to others. She also revels in the pain of others. That is a dark trait of a person who is narcissistic or has other personality disorders that are part of the dark triad. IJS
@@ShyamalaMa313 I don’t believes she acts better than everyone else. Especially since she desperately wants their approval and her ranting was more “why don’t they like me???” And less “you are all beneath me, so you should worship the ground I walk on.” And the double standards probably comes from a lifetime of being rejected by a community she wants to be embraced by and it leads her to immediately jump to the defensive instead of giving people the same nuance and clarity she wishes people give her. It’s why I can believe her autistic diagnosis. Because autistic people are off putting to neurotypical people. They talk about it all the time. They are like, I thought I was being nice and friendly and doing the same thing everyone else is doing, but I get treated like a freak. And no one really explains what went wrong. They just stop talking to me. I don’t think she’s lacking in empathy. Maybe your experience with that person is coloring your perspective.
@@ShyamalaMa313 I don’t think she believes she better than everyone, considering how desperate she is to have people like her. It’s more “why don’t they like me???” And not “ these peasants should worship the ground I walk on! And they aren’t doing that!!” I think your experience with that person is clouding your judgement here.
Also the double standards might stem from the rejection sensitivity. NT’s do have a habit of be cruel to NDs. And NDs don’t know what they are doing wrong that upsets people. They believe they are doing the same things and cruelly gets shut down and they wished people would tell them why they react that way to them. When you’ve been hurt by that so many times you think that’s what people are doing all the time. You forget they can have their own context and nuance. And when she got called out she recognized the double standard and is saying she’s willing to do better about that as well.
I LOVE AMANDA SEALES! I love her brilliance!!! And, have defended her often. However, as much as it pains me to admit, there is problematic behavior based on this deep dive. I think she will eventually grow into a space of being less bothered, triggered and publicly responsive about every single thing. Perhaps, keep up with the very intelligent political commentary and the like, yet remain silent when it comes to personal interactions. Lastly, I agree that autism may play a role in her inability to fully comprehend the latter.
I agree. I am ND, and I have always had SO MUCH respect for her work. Even if I don’t agree with some of her takes. That Shannon Sharpe interview triggered TF out of me because of the way he treated her. But, following that one, I peeped how she deals with disagreements. Kicking it with CTG is a huge strike for me. The man is more than problematic…why they keep feeding him platforms is beyond me. I have made missteps in my life, not understanding until later how something I said affected someone else. I have come to realize that my tendency to very quickly judge a situation can be problematic. I have learned to be okay with missing the mark…but I am also more sensitive to the fact that I come off as unattached, reactionary, and rude at times because of the way we communicate on topics we are either “well versed”, or passionate about. We can appear dysregulated. This is why we learn to mask. It makes for easier communication with other people…. But masking is something you learn to do over the course of your life. People who are undiagnosed, untreated…may not even know what “masking” means. If they aren’t used to this, miscommunication can just feel like a way of life…and grappling to figure out why people don’t 🦊 with you can lead to ALL of the wrong conclusions 😂. Learning more about yourself can be a serious revelation. Instead of feeling like an outcast, weirdo, or “know it all” (that, sadly used to be my title…can you tell?😂) you can truly find your own lane, and stop worrying about what people think. It IS a privilege to be able to mask and “present” as neurotypical. Our excitement, hyper-vigilance, and hyper-focus can be exhausting and off-putting, af. Amanda seems to be figuring it out….but in so many cases, PRAGMATISM can be a BW’s best friend. I wish herself, and the rest of us growth. Black folks generally should know more about ND. Amanda might do well to focus that type of energy into something much more positive than listing who has wrong done you. Feeling attacked and “othered” is also a feeling I have had to grapple with…but I don’t feel compelled to work through my feelings on LIVE, chile! 😂 We must accept that two things can true at the same time. People can be wrong, AND you can also be doing TOO much. It is reactionary and short-sited. I am glad we are talking about this! I hope that education and understanding will follow. 💖
@@TheErikaShowI appreciate your word so much I woukd call myself a fan of Amanda tbh of any human I like the work said human makes but I have to remind myself this person is just as I am a flawed individual and complex but I really do appreciate her voice on palestine and on other issues and I really like whay you said in the last paragraph , I really hope she sees it therapist for her autism and teaching her accountability and how to deal with her conflicts with ppl that isn't going live lol .
She doesn't have autism.
@@mjcherubYou don't know that and I doubt you're qualified to say whether she does or not.
@@squirrelsinmykoolaidthat part. People are speaking as is they’ve seen her medical records.
Amanda needs self awareness omg... its really bad. She needs to take some time to look in the mirror. If everyone doesn't like you, you are the problem.
I never watch long videos, but this one was well-done and went by quickly. I’m glad you pointed out that the narratives around Amanda are perpetuated by Amanda herself. The other people that supposedly don’t like her are never the ones talking about it. I’m also irritated with other BW claiming Amanda’s problems are indicative of the struggles we all face. No. Amanda is Amanda’s problem, and I think if you see a lot of yourself in her, it may be time for self-reflection. If you are always in conflict with others, at some point you have to be mature and do a self-evaluation. Amanda assuming she’s just too brilliant and learned for other Black people to like also leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but that’s a whole other topic.
Edit: And I love that you pointed out the downsides of coming to the internet with all your business. I’m so tired of unfollowing folks because they said too much and I know the inevitable clapbacks to meltdown to social media break cycle is about to start.
Eesh, while I knew about her reputation as “difficult”, the latent educational elitism is something I was not aware of. She seems very committed to living up the hype.
I view that as a defense for her, though
@@XeniasWorld I think *she* thinks it’s a defense (ie she is misunderstood because she is simply too ‘quick’ or smart for others to keep up with). I’ve been in academia for awhile and there are absolutely a lot of scholars with this attitude (they tend to be white men), but the most brilliant people I know are intellectually generous and invariably humble about what they DON’T know. Which is quite a lot.
Simply put….”EVERYBODY AMANDA!??…EVERYBODY!?!”
Amanda is the perfect example of right Message, wrong Messaging.
Even when her message is correct, the way she goes about communicating her message is often times abrasive, offensive and obnoxious. What makes it even worse is she lacks self awareness.
I’ve met her and gone to a couple Smart Funny & Black shows. I didn’t know that the celebrities were not getting paid wowwwwww. I truly enjoy her commentary on social issues and her intelligence on so many subjects but you crafted this VERY well. I for sure agree. I made it to the end and it was worth it. Thank you! I wonder if she’s seen this.
I appreciate this angle! I wonder if she has ever considered how her being light skinned has allowed her to be perceived as unlikeable, embrace this narrative, and also still be successful.
That is an interesting point because colorism isnt just about being rejected for being dark-skinned its about privileges light skin people get dark skin people would never be afforded ie bein read as unlikable yet still having a booming career.
I feel she resembles a person on the spectrum. Just cuz ur proud OR loud doesn't negate this fact.
@@yassine8935 Exactly. It’s fascinating to watch how she has been labeled unlikeable, yet still has been offered a platform to speak about it over and over and over again, while still being supported in her own ventures, as well as given opportunities. I can’t say that I have seen the same for a dark skinned woman who is a celebrity. ** At least not at this magnitude.
@@Annoyed_Human can you further elaborate? I want to better understand your point.
@akeria5882 @akeria5882 yes, ma'am. The very act of havn 2 defend what she feels she is (n a lot of women present this way- by the way, ie. the A.B.M. trope) makes the very point. I think we 4get (intended minimizing/dehumanizing) that being on the spectrum is a neuro-developmental condition that absolutely will hav an accompanying PERSONALITY jus like any other (developmental) disability. Personalities are individual and based on ones' environment, nurturing (r lack thereof) and temperament. So...a black woman on the spectrum would absolutely & unequivocally NOT present as a stereotypical case 4 all the reasons that make a black woman a black woman n our society. Furthermore, as a black woman ON THE SPECTRUM; i think I can n will add that nothing was/has nor will evr b easy/normal n my life. I didnt talk until I was 5 or so (they thought I was retarded n tried 2 lobotomize me). I was severely abused n neglected as well- so there's ur nuture/environmental factors that would additionally make any child withdraw even without a neuro-developmental marker. Then developing, I was always introverted and cerebral and would prefer 2 b alone n would b quite fine n this choice. I could interact, but the preference was 2 b alone if at all possible. So, imagine the same world that YOU present 2 as a black woman n how ur EXPECTED 2 effectively b a showpony, a jezebel, r a mammy n when u fail those expectations how ur deemed as uppity, attacked, r jus maligned. Now imagine ur PERSONALITY is that of a proud individual. Those interactions won't sit too well wit'chu; so, u return the same fire fr whence it hailed. Well then, who hav we jus described? So.. im jus sayin 2 hopefully outline my point better that- that woman is mosdef a high-functioning autistic thus she has excelled academically while remaining vigilant 2 societal micro-aggressions (r outright attacks). N when we view this form n the wild we hav been trained 2 view her form as "difficult, uppity, arrogant, mouthy, confrontational, perpetual victim, etc" instead of a fully-actualized HUMAN that happens 2 b a black woman living the same respective experiences as her opposite but that u r trained 2 perceive her boundaries n self-protection as an affront 2 the status quo. Cuz remenber...when 1 enslaved person escaped, the others were usually punished harshly 2 break their will 2 desire freedom. N when this becomes an accepted reality, u no-longer hav 2 physically punish the enslaved...they'll police themselves n train-up their offspring 2 c the world ending at the edge of the property n no-longer desire freedom (whatever it may b). Well, people like us don't see it this way. We dare 2 dream n b free. N if it means we shall take a lotta licks n life then so-be-it, as it could b no-other way as our minds are inherently free n unencumbered by ceilings n walls.
Now...wit all this said...does it make her loveable/likeable...it depends on how u view freedom/free-thinkers. An acquired taste, absolutely! But i think we understand that her form is deemed genius n adjacent communities n we jus needta let this woman live n unapologetically b her without people that look like her obliterating her perceived "flawed" humanity. But we can't possibly c another's humanity if we can't even c our own. None of us know it all nor r we perfect. She gon b alrite. 🫂 🤗 🕊🙏🏽
i normally dont gaf about stuff like this but i am definitely tuning in for your take!
I think the word you were looking for in regards to Jason Lee is sycophant. This was a well-balanced and nuanced take on Amanda Seales and it's appreciated!
I def made it all the way to the end ~ been soooo long since I’ve seen you content. Deeply reminded of a younger 14/15 year old me finding your videos and absorbing so much confidence to go forth and talk my shit to my family members who were locked in with being colorist / color struck ~ present tense me is like oh i didn’t neeeed a light skinned person to validate the shit that i knew to be true about my experience but I know that you being the first light skinned person who wasn’t crass in the gaslighting and dismissal was healing as fuck for me at the tiiime - grateful to come back in contact with the things i missed over here!
I just don't understand Amanda's success, yet complete and total unhappiness. Like girllllllllllllll, it's exhausting. What does she want?
Energy vampirism is confusing until you clock how drained you feel after consuming the content 🫂🥺
Amanda Doesnt Want JUST Success! She Wants Success And Reverence. A Prime Example Is Kim Kardashian Releasing That S*xtape. She Was Already Rich & Known...But She Craved Wealth & FAME. Its Never Enough!
It really seems like she seeks acceptance. Why she struggles to understand the lack of it 🤷🏿♀️ but I'm sure her desire to stand in what she believes is right plays a role
@@XeniasWorldI think you’re right. She wants to be accepted by people who stand in direct opposition to her beliefs. It’s not only that she’s around people she disagrees with some things, some of the people she’s being rejected by and wanting acceptance from are capitalists so I think she’ll always get her feelings hurt. She needs to reorient how she wants her life to be
“The boldness is a by product of privilege” gold
My father in law is retired from the music industry. His staff hated this lady. She was polite to me, but I was just a young college kid not in the industry. Even back then I could see why they didn’t like her😂, but it was not directed to me. I found her after seeing her on the breakfast club and followed her on IG. At first it was cool, sure her opinion can be sharp but I am not sensitive…. But over the years her desire to be accepted (idc what she says about not caring she does) has made me slowly step away. Her vibe is off and she has gotten so dark that the people that need to listen aren’t listening. My biggest pet peeve is I hate when she is very loud and wrong and how she “apologizes”. I hate how she responds to people in her comments that clearly support her ,but if she disagrees her responses are very off putting, but she hides the rudeness under the guise of being “too smart”. Mind you, I am a child of an azzhole, so I can take alot but my dad knew what he was and didn’t hide behind his intelligence to do so. I haven’t blocked her because there are likable things about her, but I do have her muted because I can only take about 1 or 2 posts per month from her. I actually muted her after the Shay Shay interview because why are you constantly talking about how you want to be treated, but treat others the same way. It’s baffling …..Her lack of social skills/reading the room is her downfall. she always thinks she’s in the righteous position and so argumentative. It’s draining.
Draining is the perfect description. I was following her and had to unfollow bc it’s always constant 🤯🤯🤯 it’s just too much.
I've heard people from New York speak about having to work with her. She is difficult and they can't stand her. I'm shocked she got that role on insecure. She has Karen like antic.
I made it to the end. This was a great watch; I appreciate your well-informed commentary.
Much appreciated!
Honestly, the number of intelligent Black women who support Amanda wholeheartedly is mind-boggling.
Your intellectual and nuanced take is freaking REFRESHING!!!!!!!!!
the comment to Tamir Rice's mom was sooooo insane, like there is no way to intellectualize that!! His mom did not ask to be an activist!
Amanda is so exhausting. I think there is something mental going on honestly, like she comes off as living in delusion, she literally cannot see outside of herself.
However I do disagree that she owes Ericka an apology. Is Beyoncé not a black woman??
Thanks
Made it all the way through because all your content is worth it. Pray you are enjoying FULLY your motherhood journey thus far. ❤
Ppl be mad when they choose to dislike/outcast a person and that person isn't defeated by it
She’s giving off defeated vibes though..
@@Lisa_fysioand that gets you very excited. We hate confident people
There’s something about this comment that made me holler out loud . Because this is a fresh perspective, I never thought of it like that like damn the way people treat her for no apparent reason it’s a an attempt at a humbling tactic, but they see they can’t affect her and it makes them even more angry
Nah. You're literally projecting that into people. They can just "not like her". Sounds like you're shooting her some bail, which is cool. But that ain't the reason. It sounds really cool. But it isn't.
They gonna try to humble you right here in the comment section
Amanda is that girl who when you tell her you don't like her because she always thinks she's the prettiest and smartest woman in the room, turns around and tells you she KNOWS she's always the prettiest and smartest woman in the room.
You did your good work with this Jouelzy! This segment shows growth in your style, format, and analysis. You have been very unbiased in this messaging and you’ve still found a way to include your thoughts without it playing a pivotal role in the rhetoric; that’s a hard thing to do. I just want to acknowledge your growth in balancing your analysis and personal opinion. You’ve slowed your rate and that alone has made it easier to listen andddd for over an hour. I know it’s your channel and you can do and say what you want, however, THIS is a great piece of journalism that can travel well beyond your page.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I think I either unfollowed her or took her out of my feed. The level of negativity that comes from her is just too much, like are you every happy like genuinely? I hope she finds peace and joy but whoooo girl maybe silence is best.
Made it to the end! Not sure how I came across your channel, but enjoyed listening to your thoughts. I look forward to hearing more from you.
Amanda Seales pays too much attention to her haters.
Thanks!
I liked her until she started talking so much publicly. If she stuck to her talent then not many would’ve known what’s been going on behind the scenes. I did notice she was shown less on Insecure and wondered why…until she started publicly speaking more and complaining/attacking. I’m like “oh ok ok no wonder”
I feel that Amanda Seales is a contrarian and too individualistic for that industry. Additionally, I don't feel that she gives the same courtesy to others that she wishes she, herself, would like to receive. For example - if you respectfully disagree with her on IG, you get banned forthwith. By doing this, she shuts the door on opportunities to be heard.
Yes she needs to be in academia or even in theatre. I don’t think Hollywood is a space that is healthy for her to thrive in it is a lot of politics
@@rashidanicole5309 , you are right! I totally can see her in academia! She actually would be in the majority with her views and thus would not be ostracized/penalized for her pro-Palestinian stance, especially. She is quite vocal about the latter and I feel that has had negative consequences for her.
i made it all the way to the end and now i gotta watch it one more time for the comprehension!
It’s taken me all day on & off watching until the end. I really enjoyed her take on Amanda, I had to rewind SEVERAL times to take it all in.
What's funnier about this is that Amanda's mentor marable also deals with a very similar issue in the academic realm lol
If you know you know !
Manning Marable?
Would love to hear more...
@@jouelzy lot of negative connotation with that name in the local Black scholarly community especially from BW scholars. Had mentors that have worked with him and did not appreciate him. He set the standard for many, but it usually stops there when they meet him...
Amanda is a *BIG personality* in the *WRONG industry.* She would be better suited for political activism than entertainment.
The rant about not being invited was actually shortly after her publicist and pretty much entire team dropped her for speaking up about Palestine she also fired her agent for stealing money and he got her blackisted from some comedy clubs so now she’s solely relying on patron which is who the video was addressing. She had a really great interview with Marc Lemont which is where I got this info. I clicked this thinking this was gonna be an interview but this is even more interesting 😂great content from u both
So all this information is by her own account? The same woman that’s been caught in numerous lies? I don’t buy it lol.
That's the problem with Amanda's fans, you take things as fact. People could have dropped her as friends because of many other reasons but she always chooses to say it's because she's too smart, light skinned, on the right side of some political matter, etc. I used to be a fan but I noticed she never admits actual flaws but loves to point out others flaws.
I think another aspect to consider is that Amanda is now used to being the misunderstood victim. It's easier to blame others for your issues than to look inwards and take accountability for your part in it. Now, she has learned how to monetize her victimhood and created a platform on being disliked. Introspection will take all that away from her so what benefit does she have for being self aware? I used to enjoy her posts but after awhile, it was emotionally exhausting to follow someone who's always posting negative content.
as a light bright biracial, light skin jokes don’t hurt my feelings AT ALL
21:12 I peeped that when she said she wanted complex stories about light skin people on Insecure… I was like huh? She really believes light skin people are victims …I also believe she’s jealous of the success of darkskin Issa…
I feel like unlikability always takes the forefront of conversations about black women because of respectability politics. I swear she could say something that’s just basic about the black experience or how she felt meeting someone in the industry and then be dogpiled. Meanwhile Matt rife and a million other genuinely dubious male comedians are “just a comedian” right. Why is the bar for women being discarded never because they’re actually “problematic” but because they want to force this narrative that an outspoken women should be shunned. Please understand I’m not saying she’s perfect by any means. But don’t y’all find it at least a BIT interesting that systems that inadvertently teach us to accept men who have done wrong regardless of being “cancelled” through their continuance to be platformed and monetized, compared to “when a black women isnt everyone’s cup of tea” then the black community will go out of their way to boycott them by any means that they possibly can. (In a way that isn’t seen with people who twitter attempts to cancel for real systemic issues”
Where does Matt Rife come to the internet and complain about not being included in elite rooms? That man says eff y'all and continues making terrible jokes in the rooms that accept him. Thank you for watching 10 minutes of my video!
@@jouelzy I mean he was just a random example to try to clarify the point? And Yes he quite literally does that exact thing you’re claiming he doesn’t do almost CONSTANTLY you can go check his interviews with so many outlets across a span of time??
Thank you for supporting and I apologize for projecting on you. I just do not live in a world where Matt Rife is accepted by Black women. So the idk where the 'y'all' in your comment lands.
@@jouelzy I really appreciate you expressing what you mean, and thank you for your apology, girl! Lemme clarify where the yall was coming from. (I’m from the south so it just comes out sometimes sorry) unfortunately I’ve seen a lot of women of various races support Rife which is so discouraging yknow! So I totally get how you feel of being like that’s YALL not US cause I feel the EXACT same way lol i think that’s why I find it to be so strange seeing the way people like Amanda take support and rooms they’ve been let onto thus far for granted when others wouldn’t get such opportunities including but not limited to other lovely and qualified darkskin women
If that’s the case every black woman in Hollywood would have the same reputation. But they don’t. So maybe it’s just Amanda nasty fonky attitude.
Amanda's main issue is she's not self aware, and doesn't extend anyone the grace or benefit of the doubt that she wants extended to her. She is EAGER to come to the internet and namedrop and drag, but any criticism against her is "mean and unfair". End of day, don't nobody have to like you. You can be smart, and funny, and talented, and people can still decide that they don't like your personality and don't wanna be around you. It is what it is. It's so juvenile to be throwing fits every 3-5 business days because of that. Cause what did she expect Issa to do to the publicist? Force the woman to like her? The problem is she wanted Issa to choose sides and specifically to choose HER side, and Issa basically said "yall are grown, figure that shxt out". Which I don't blame her. And the Jason Lee read is just comical. It's always funny to me when people choose to be cool with nasty, mean spirited, and problematic people and are okay with them being nasty to others, and then that same nastiness ends up directed at them.
She makes herself less likeable constantly talking about who doesn’t like her. She needs to just appreciate the ones who do, and move on.
Lack of self esteem yet brimming with ‘confidence’. She’s a conundrum.