Amanda Seales Slams Black Media on Club Shay Shay

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  • @thatncboi201
    @thatncboi201 Месяц назад +379

    Shannon did not say that she was wrong. Shannon offered her an alternative perspective.

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +32

      Thank you! I was looking for this comment. And he actually acknowledged that’s what he was doing. Maddening. There’s so much bad and racist and misogynist behavior out there - why do we always have to look for it when for once it’s not present. It takes away from progress

    • @thatncboi201
      @thatncboi201 Месяц назад +10

      @@tanja0411 exactly, and she comes off as that thinking is her default in all situations.

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +1

      @@thatncboi201 It’s sadly really true

    • @possiblymaybe6711
      @possiblymaybe6711 Месяц назад

      @@tanja0411so it’s fine for kids to call her slurs…. You people are a cancer

    • @sinamen516
      @sinamen516 Месяц назад +18

      Nah he questioned her about her experience even after she said the lady picked on her even though the white student confessed to being the one who stole. It was also the manner in which he questioned her, like she was lying

  • @candacenkoth
    @candacenkoth Месяц назад +120

    I am here to comment on how grounded, well informed and deeply insightful the woman on this panel is. She raised the collective level. THIS is a prime example of why diversity is important.

    • @karendavis8083
      @karendavis8083 Месяц назад +4

      Yep!

    • @shollinsiii
      @shollinsiii Месяц назад +10

      I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this woman. At some points I wanted everyone else to be quiet so that I could hear her explanations. Does she have a talk show/podcast? 😊❤

    • @tm_35
      @tm_35 29 дней назад +6

      This is one 12 minutes clip In hundreds, calm down bots

    • @poindextersheelturn436
      @poindextersheelturn436 29 дней назад +2

      @@tm_35 Lol, a bot will bot. Every chance they get.

    • @FatherDIVINE.
      @FatherDIVINE. 26 дней назад

      I swear wm just be talking

  • @quisomad15
    @quisomad15 Месяц назад +202

    Mel's Take on this was phenomenal.

    • @HandMeDeals
      @HandMeDeals Месяц назад +9

      Word it's like ever since that voice compliment she been on point

    • @djjsmooth27
      @djjsmooth27 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, she was on point

  • @deejay4183
    @deejay4183 Месяц назад +134

    Amanda Seales called Tabitha Brown a witch during her interview with her. Tabitha said I'm not a witch and she intentionally called her a witch again. Now, if it had been her, she would have gone off.

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +4

      Well yes Tabitha is her own person with her own personality just like Me, and you would respond differently. I would feel flattered if someone called me a witch because I do study herbs.

    • @deejay4183
      @deejay4183 Месяц назад +22

      @92cgray Right. But if someone called you trifling, you would say don't call me that. Then proceed to call you trifling again would be playing in your face.

    • @sedrickdudley4390
      @sedrickdudley4390 29 дней назад +2

      Did she really say that?

    • @ellorainward6545
      @ellorainward6545 29 дней назад +7

      Wow. I’ve never seen this interview. I gotta go research this

    • @TheoCynical
      @TheoCynical 29 дней назад +1

      Not sweet ol Tabitha Brown

  • @RoLee705
    @RoLee705 Месяц назад +104

    “She is pretty angry.”
    “That was on full display as well.” 😂

  • @RealChefJay
    @RealChefJay Месяц назад +119

    "I watched a little bit, and turned it off." 😂😂😂

    • @joanna0988
      @joanna0988 29 дней назад +4

      I wish that's what I did, waste of time 😅

    • @jassminejames210
      @jassminejames210 29 дней назад +7

      I was so intrigued that I lost 3 hours of my life Amanda has got to realise that not all of us blacks get on with other blacks simple

    • @kittenbrave1003
      @kittenbrave1003 26 дней назад +2

      Me too

    • @tavaristucker4699
      @tavaristucker4699 19 дней назад

      Same 😂

  • @kamaljames8112
    @kamaljames8112 Месяц назад +556

    Amanda seales is Amanda seales biggest problem. She’s a perpetual victim and takes zero accountability for her actions.

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +16

      Agree. I don’t think she’s a well person at all. She is very smart and talented but needs much better counseling and maybe meds (if she has a therapist and/or doctor). She needs to stop acting like people’s reactions to her are a reflection on black people, black women, light-skinned black women, opinionated and strong women, people on the spectrum, etc. She represents herself (not well), - not anyone else or large groups of people. She’s unsufferable and needs to focus on her own healing.
      Also, Shannon didn’t say she was wrong. He said he had a different perspective - he validated her but also offered another perspective. She just can’t handle non-yes people. Feels almost like narcissism to me. Holds everyone else accountable for any little flaw and wants validation, grace, protection, etc. but doesn’t acknowledge her part in relationship DYNAMICS. A self-proclaimed “emotionally intelligent” person can take a step back and look at situations from all viewpoints.

    • @possiblymaybe6711
      @possiblymaybe6711 Месяц назад +7

      @@tanja0411you guys are so insane and unfair to her. He questioned her every time she talked about people being blatantly racist to her. I honest to god know in my bones if it were Katt Williams or some other man being treated like that my Shannon you’d all be eating Shannon up. Amanda was brilliant in that interview and I cannot believe the responses to her in these comments

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад

      @@possiblymaybe6711 ​​⁠ For you to “honest to god in your bones” think you *know* anything about me at all makes you pretty insane. That’s a crazy take. You have no idea how I feel about anyone else except for what I wrote about Amanda. Just fyi, I judge people as individuals and not representatives as bigger groups. Because it’s 2024 and we (many of us) have evolved past that simplistic thinking. Because I don’t think Amanda is well doesn’t mean I value men over women. That’s insane and you’re nuts for thinking that based on one comment. And if you think we’re insane then I’d say 90% plus of us are crazy and I guess then you’re the only normal and
      brilliant one. Just like Amanda. Triggered maybe? Great awareness and I’m not going to assume anything about you the way you did me but you both seem pretty aligned on the front of not being able to handle other perspectives and resort to personally attacking. I don’t value your perspective based on your comment at all. Enjoy all your assumptions and delusion. ✌️

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад

      @@possiblymaybe6711 ​​⁠ For you to “honest to god in your bones” think you know anything about me at all makes you pretty insane. That’s a crazy take. You have no idea how I feel about anyone else except for what I wrote about Amanda. Just fyi, I judge people as individuals and not representatives of bigger groups. Because we’ve evolved past that simplistic thinking. Because I don’t think Amanda is well doesn’t mean I value men over women. That’s crazy and you’re nuts for making that leap based on one comment. And if you think we’re insane then I’d say 98% plus of us are crazy and I guess you’re the only normal and brilliant one. Just like Amanda. Triggered maybe? Great awareness and I’m not going to assume anything about you the way you did me but you both seem pretty aligned on the front of not being able to handle other perspectives and resort to personally attacking. I don’t value your perspective based on your comment at all. Enjoy all your assumptions and delusion. ✌️

    • @troublein8597
      @troublein8597 Месяц назад +12

      @@possiblymaybe6711believe it Amanda 😂

  • @lordchaos9148
    @lordchaos9148 Месяц назад +181

    She's the female Sheldon Cooper and doesn't realise it. Everything is always someone's else's fault and she's always has to be the smartest in the room.

    • @harlemking0810
      @harlemking0810 Месяц назад +12

      Perfect Example

    • @glittergirl-tz4ru
      @glittergirl-tz4ru Месяц назад +20

      Well Sheldon was high functioning on the spectrum so I guess she watched the show for her research which led to self diagnosis lol

    • @bigbuzin555
      @bigbuzin555 Месяц назад +7

      She would probably be really happy with that comparison

    • @achi7909
      @achi7909 Месяц назад +1

      I’ve been thinking this for a while. She is

    • @joanna0988
      @joanna0988 29 дней назад +3

      But wasn't Sheldon actually a genius? Amanda isn't always right or that knowledgeable on the topics she rants about.

  • @AlSween
    @AlSween Месяц назад +129

    Amanda is so defensive that Shannon's normal questions was made into something it wasn't.

    • @user-od4xr2ij1p
      @user-od4xr2ij1p Месяц назад +10

      I think you nailed her personality with this comment actually

    • @Persephonie22
      @Persephonie22 27 дней назад +1

      Yes you're right.

  • @jamaaljohnson5786
    @jamaaljohnson5786 Месяц назад +303

    her and azalea are top tier insufferable...

    • @808sirenz9
      @808sirenz9 Месяц назад +34

      At least Azalea is funny at times lol

    • @fed1013
      @fed1013 Месяц назад +6

      Amanda is a whole comedian

    • @doingit2death
      @doingit2death Месяц назад +10

      Don't forget about Jaguar Wright

    • @sanskretro
      @sanskretro Месяц назад +10

      ​@@fed1013 I don't laugh with her like with Azealia.

    • @polivepea
      @polivepea Месяц назад +2

      🎯This

  • @tenneildoe3674
    @tenneildoe3674 Месяц назад +74

    Amanda LOOKS for issues in every situation she is in. It’s not right if she can’t find an issue to advocate for. Right or wrong. Why would anyone like someone who walks in a room looking for issues. Sometimes its okay to just come in and enjoy yourself and not look for a soapbox to stand on. Aren’t you tired Mrs. Millie???

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +2

      Or the issues just fall into her lap I mean I am shy so I won’t address when someone wrongs me but I appreciate Amanda does.

    • @thatgirlkells5505
      @thatgirlkells5505 Месяц назад +2

      I agree with that. If you are always looking for an issue to rage about you will find one!!!!

  • @matthewlockhart6159
    @matthewlockhart6159 Месяц назад +290

    She holds others accountable and isn't afraid to speak her mind (often), but she refuses to hold herself accountable.

    • @adoreivette7373
      @adoreivette7373 Месяц назад +1

      Amen

    • @possiblymaybe6711
      @possiblymaybe6711 Месяц назад +8

      What did she do that you need her to hold herself accountable for?

    • @pj2218
      @pj2218 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@possiblymaybe6711her attitude and approach around and towards others

    • @wentwonn1668
      @wentwonn1668 Месяц назад +14

      @@possiblymaybe6711the fact that once she feels wronged she doesnt allow for the possibility of misunderstanding or anything she automatically feels validated.

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +2

      But if you’re actually listening to what she is holding them accountable for she does. For example the man telling HR she called him a 🥷 lol she apologized but I got her point of they literally say N word on the show. I get her saying she didn’t realize he would be so offended. She tried to leave the party once she was told she was no longer invited and able to come inside but others kept her there because they wanted her in the party.

  • @jeshuamathis9013
    @jeshuamathis9013 Месяц назад +266

    MELYSSA FORD NEEDS TO HOST YOUR SHOW. THE WAY SHE INFORMS THE GROUP IS A1!!! She should give background to all the topics

    • @meanguy111
      @meanguy111 Месяц назад +16

      They spoon feed her topics they don't care about this one bit

    • @mackenzyphilippe7508
      @mackenzyphilippe7508 Месяц назад +15

      She did a great job this time I'll give you that but she should NOT host the show

    • @twizzy585ful
      @twizzy585ful Месяц назад

      Only when it's women....if this was a man she would sum it to arrogance and ignorance

    • @harrissr.615
      @harrissr.615 Месяц назад +8

      This show would be terrible with her as a host.

    • @jewelsjewels3655
      @jewelsjewels3655 Месяц назад +5

      She tried...it was called Here for the Food. It didn't do well 💁🏾‍♀️

  • @dablakbradpitt
    @dablakbradpitt Месяц назад +339

    As a employee of an special education agency, an autistic diagnosis doesn’t cost $10k. It’s free for kids through early intervention & through private costs? $350 MAX. You can’t self diagnose.

    • @Unbelievable6348
      @Unbelievable6348 Месяц назад +28

      That's if you're a kid? What about if you're an adult

    • @Vanessa-iq3vt
      @Vanessa-iq3vt Месяц назад +29

      Once u age out in a premium cost city for ex, it’s about 5k at base and could vary based on needs.

    • @animec-dramaskpop6362
      @animec-dramaskpop6362 Месяц назад

      Amanda is a member of the Screen Actors Guild which means she has insurance. ​@@Unbelievable6348

    • @dablakbradpitt
      @dablakbradpitt Месяц назад

      @@Unbelievable6348 privately as an adult? Max $500 cash. Less if it goes through your insurance however it’s a high co payment. Maybe like $100

    • @dablakbradpitt
      @dablakbradpitt Месяц назад

      @@Vanessa-iq3vt this is not true at all. As I live in Nj & work in NYC. How do I know this? I get to see the billing for psych evals. You can simply google an ASD assessment evaluation via a psychologist. Call them & ask them. It’s an hour exam. Nobody will charge you $5k. They will lose their job. Don’t give out wrong info to defend her. She is wrong. At the max it’s $500 insurance or cash

  • @chrisgbassknight
    @chrisgbassknight Месяц назад +22

    Amanda lived on my block in Brooklyn after her Suny Purchase days. And I agree with everything Joe just said. And I have been saying the same exact thing about her for years. Something happened to her in her career because this is not the same woman I met and spoke with in 2002. Industry definitely had a negative effect on her. She was mad cool, extremely energetic and positive. Was nice to niggas no matter if u were outside hustling, working or just chilling in the park or on some benches.

    • @marcusdunton1692
      @marcusdunton1692 29 дней назад +6

      who's to say it changed her, she probably still the same person when she isn't talking about these type of things, i hope so anyway

  • @Katkayz
    @Katkayz Месяц назад +22

    I love how Mel was giving a chance to speak . Mel is very intelligent , well versed in many issues . Let her talk more. She brings a much needed perspective

    • @a.sam.2976
      @a.sam.2976 Месяц назад

      Yeah.... Maybe Mel should interview Amanda next time.

    • @curtishancock432
      @curtishancock432 23 дня назад

      That wont go like you think

  • @msdezeeray
    @msdezeeray Месяц назад +24

    I enjoyed Melissa's take on this situation she hit the nail on the head explaining the situation and offering her opinion. Thank you for not cutting her off for once! LOL!

  • @tjestandian
    @tjestandian Месяц назад +121

    Her tone gets her in trouble. It’s simple. She comes off condescending.

    • @oleeshanorris5343
      @oleeshanorris5343 Месяц назад

      I've been told the same thing but typically people who were uneducated as barely passing student or early dropout. Usually because they don't understand the big or college word you have used. They still give you words to learn in college like elementary school.

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +4

      And this is what happens when I society doesn’t adjust to people from all backgrounds and has a respectability policy that neurodivergent people dont always pick up on or can follow. Its like telling a blind person to look both ways before crossing the street. Impossible and insensitive

    • @Dave....
      @Dave.... Месяц назад +9

      ​@@414awillyeah she has no balance at all, when it comes to human interaction. Her glass is basically always full, because there's a blockage in her brain. That refuses to see the other side of things. And understand not everyone is trying to manipulate you or cause you harm. It's basically like fight or flight mode, is always on.

    • @ohmalsbroken
      @ohmalsbroken Месяц назад +4

      She doesn't come across as anything besides someone on the spectrum who needs to be given a little bit more understanding. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to understand your ignorance is condescending. Her unwavering honest candor is not condescending. it's just not what you're used to, try to put her in a box and label her something negative which is sad

    • @keithwhite8351
      @keithwhite8351 Месяц назад +9

      ⁠@@ohmalsbroken How many ppl do you deal with on the spectrum daily to be able to make that assessment? Also, 2 things can be true. Just because you’re telling the truth about something or educating someone about something, doesn’t mean you can’t be condescending. Happens all the time

  • @Fly-rp9fj
    @Fly-rp9fj Месяц назад +42

    She needs to heal from past issues

    • @kickdatgospel
      @kickdatgospel Месяц назад

      Mannnn I said this definitely still having issues with the little girl inside fr

  • @bojangle2213
    @bojangle2213 Месяц назад +114

    Every time Amanda Seales gets involved in something, Drama ensues. Its always someone being jealous of her, its someone being mean to her for no reason, its someone being intimidated by her. Club Shay Shay has been interviewing Guests for almost 3 years and of all different backgrounds. Now all of a sudden he doesnt provide a safe space for her. GTFO with the BS.
    She is a perpetual victim and is exhausting to be around. And she will never change cuz idiots give her a platform and enable her foolishness

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai Месяц назад +9

      Have ever been around her though? To say someone is exhausting to be around when you haven’t been around them is MAD WILD

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian Месяц назад +9

      It's annoying when you are telling a story and someone trys to invalidate it.
      "I went to the Gucci store yesterday and they followed me around the store and said it might be to expensive for me"
      Shannon "hey maybe they were on commission and followed you to grt the sale, hey maybe they were rude because they going through a divorce! 🕺🕺🕺🕺"

    • @andrewilliams6367
      @andrewilliams6367 Месяц назад +15

      @@ANTIStraussianShannon asked questions like he did with ALL of his other guests. She took that as him coming at her and got defensive about things. He never once “invalidated” anything. If every answer out her mouth is “idk why they don’t like me” or “racism” then it’s kinda leads a person to probe more cause everything can’t be everyone else’s fault ALLLLLLLLL the time.

    • @kant5696
      @kant5696 Месяц назад

      @@ANTIStraussianit is foolish to just take anything someone tells you at face value and not ask for context. Amanda is the type to say “I got bit by a snake”
      Any logical person: “Im sorry to hear that. What happened? Did you not see it, were you messing with it, did it hide in the bushes then attack you?”
      Amanda: I cant believe you are invalidating my experiences and not giving me to live my truth. 😑
      We just want context! If you’re going to tell a story about a pretty traumatic or crazy event, people are going to want details. Every scenario she spoke of it was always someone’s fault for not liking her for no reason and we all know in life that makes you look suspect as a person.

    • @animec-dramaskpop6362
      @animec-dramaskpop6362 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@ikexbankaiAre you slow? If you are playing like you're slow to defend Amanda it ain't cute. You know d@mn well you can be tired of someone without being around them personally. You can find PUBLIC FIGURES exhausting.

  • @RaisedOn2pac
    @RaisedOn2pac Месяц назад +55

    She gotta fix that person in the mirror first, then take accountability before pointing fingers.

  • @stefonfrench5915
    @stefonfrench5915 Месяц назад +42

    I’m so sick of Amanda Seales. She is the type of person to throw a rock and hide her hands. Her energy/demeanor is so awkward and is a big turn off. She gets what she puts out there. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @karishajohnson6537
    @karishajohnson6537 Месяц назад +47

    We need hosts who actually do the work. So tired of hosts commenting on the topics without research and just reading headlines and watching clips.

  • @sirgrowsmoor4772
    @sirgrowsmoor4772 Месяц назад +138

    If her mother was from Grenada then she should understand that being mouthy and correcting adults is wrong and is not endorsed in the carribean community it's actually looked down on

    • @twizzy585ful
      @twizzy585ful Месяц назад +9

      Very much so

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +33

      And so is miseducation and rewriting of history. But society has you focused on being agreeable dummies rather than intelligent people with something to offer no matter the age. The world is in shambles

    • @animec-dramaskpop6362
      @animec-dramaskpop6362 Месяц назад +31

      ​@@414awillYou can be smart and respectful.

    • @sirgrowsmoor4772
      @sirgrowsmoor4772 Месяц назад +5

      @@414awill that's her take who knows if that's what the teacher was saying you can always learn the truth yourself and stop relying on public education to teach you

    • @NatashaSmith-xq9wf
      @NatashaSmith-xq9wf Месяц назад +12

      I'm from Jamaica and that us so true. "Children are to be seen and not heard" was the mantra I heard.

  • @omarjames5273
    @omarjames5273 Месяц назад +45

    She's always been an " Agent of Chaos " in the culture.

    • @expressivenature9079
      @expressivenature9079 Месяц назад +4

      That’s a heavy statement when you have people who do so much worst she’s done a lot of good for the community and culture her actions may not convey the best but she has good intentions for our community

    • @lorenzow
      @lorenzow Месяц назад +1

      ​@@expressivenature9079 "she's done a lot of good for the community"
      Serious ⁉️
      What has she done for the community?

    • @demondwilliams8542
      @demondwilliams8542 29 дней назад

      ​@@expressivenature9079
      Like lying on that Rhodes scholar.😂😂

  • @jgj5369
    @jgj5369 Месяц назад +63

    She’s exhausting

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +1

      100%. I became continually more drained and low-vibe as I watched the interview but also couldn’t look away. It was triggering and fascinating somehow. It was a good reminder to me that even if you do have cause to be angry - and I have in my career and the hospital systems I’ve worked - her approach is never effective and it’s certainly not strategic. The only thing that ever seems to help is to focus on your own healing and keeping your eye on what you’re trying to achieve. And creating better relationships and gathering allies. Everything else is just distraction and only hurts yourself. It honestly was a good reminder for me. I hope someone can get through to her and she can get the help she clearly (to me) needs.

  • @Csdabest89
    @Csdabest89 Месяц назад +9

    Amanda was not wrong questing her teachers. Considering the education system been lying on our people for generations. Amanda was wrong for many things but that teachers situation rings heavy in the black community

  • @Acidtriptamo
    @Acidtriptamo Месяц назад +219

    That synchronized “Mmmmm” told me everything I need to know about Amanda & her delusional self😩😩😩

    • @Consciousmeatcourtjester
      @Consciousmeatcourtjester Месяц назад +4

      ❤❤❤ i dont even know who that is and thank you. 🙈

    • @Didilady82
      @Didilady82 Месяц назад +5

      😂😂😂

    • @EDT3270
      @EDT3270 Месяц назад +5

      😂😂😂

    • @jeremylawson6648
      @jeremylawson6648 Месяц назад +5

      lol that was hilarious

    • @nkrudi
      @nkrudi Месяц назад +11

      Thought I was the only that peeped that in the beginning😂

  • @smurf_n_wesson9064
    @smurf_n_wesson9064 Месяц назад +16

    I wonder if Amanda stops and thinks “…it can’t be everyone else”

  • @jerrywilliams3373
    @jerrywilliams3373 Месяц назад +23

    So y’all not going to talk about how she got kicked out of a party that she was invited?

    • @cliftonconnor9389
      @cliftonconnor9389 27 дней назад +3

      She was invited by a guest and not the host. That is why she got bounced.

  • @tamarajones8229
    @tamarajones8229 Месяц назад +8

    I love how Melissa Ford broke that interview down

    • @All_forthelove
      @All_forthelove 29 дней назад +1

      Because she was the only one who cared to be prepared to talk about it by watching the interview in it’s entirety

  • @thepinillosshow3638
    @thepinillosshow3638 Месяц назад +22

    I LOVED the manner Melissa explained this cause this is exactly how I felt.

    • @LauraCharles1985
      @LauraCharles1985 Месяц назад +2

      Agreed. And they are both at a level in their lives/careers in which likeminded people/women can form an ownership and influence as far as independent projects go. While there’s a large audience who feel a way about Amanda, she still has a perspective. They’re talking about her and she would be “smart” to ride the wave. 🌊

  • @ManyGods
    @ManyGods Месяц назад +14

    I didn’t know an interviewers job was to always interject their views throughout an interview

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +3

      They dont wanna have that discussion though

    • @jasonmartin7798
      @jasonmartin7798 26 дней назад +2

      There are different interview styles. Some interviewers try to make it conversational, while others just ask questions and let the person talk.

  • @barneyjoseph3375
    @barneyjoseph3375 Месяц назад +28

    The irony of it all is that she played on a show called "Insecure." 🤣

  • @jessj1
    @jessj1 Месяц назад +36

    Y’all don’t wanna come informed by watching her interview but want to talk about that shit. Smdh.

    • @dillilyeverage315
      @dillilyeverage315 Месяц назад +3

      Oh they watched it. Fronting about turning it off mid way, then having opinions about the second half.

    • @jabean4rmjerzy
      @jabean4rmjerzy Месяц назад +2

      Exactly

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +5

      They’re the ones who go with the collective’s opinions on Amanda don’t really try to gain their own opinions.

  • @ikexbankai
    @ikexbankai Месяц назад +56

    Kids can DEFINITELY be racist though.

    • @raqui174
      @raqui174 Месяц назад +9

      Kids make fun of everyone.. they make fun of fat kids does that make them fatphobic

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +8

      @@raqui174yes. That’s exactly it. Just because they start young with the “isms” and “phobias” does not mean they dont exist. If a 9 yr old kills someone, are they not a murderer?

    • @Jojo-pv3uf
      @Jojo-pv3uf Месяц назад +3

      @@414awillnot in the same way an adult is. There is diminished responsibility for children

    • @possiblymaybe6711
      @possiblymaybe6711 Месяц назад +5

      @@Jojo-pv3ufyou’re ridiculous. It is racist period. No one is saying send them to jail but it doesn’t diminish the impact that has on a black child to experience this. Wtf is wrong with yall

    • @Jojo-pv3uf
      @Jojo-pv3uf Месяц назад +7

      @@possiblymaybe6711 kids are mean, stop making it seem like kids are against black kids. I am black and when i came from Africa, i was bullied for my race and skin tone by African American kids. I didn’t think of it as racism, just kids being mean.

  • @PandaBares
    @PandaBares 29 дней назад +3

    Her problem is people don’t care what her message is because they’re too concerned about her tone & that’s why she’s overly angry. Glad Joe brought that up because he too has been through what she’s going through.

  • @mickeyjean2895
    @mickeyjean2895 27 дней назад +4

    “IT CANT JUST BE EVERYBODY”
    That’s the real question for Amanda.

  • @Luv-nl5pu
    @Luv-nl5pu Месяц назад +17

    Y’all should invite her into the show! She needs to be a part of this conversation because yall are missing it big time!!

  • @CosmicJournee
    @CosmicJournee Месяц назад +5

    I think the issue with the teacher and kids racism thing is you didn’t live her life, so to tell her no that’s not racism is absolutely crazy! There’s no denying those kids were racist to her rather they fully understood what they were doing she’s still the black girl on the receiving end that experienced racism. It’s a bit of gaslighting to tell someone you don’t know that they didn’t experience racism.

  • @LadyT118
    @LadyT118 Месяц назад +25

    AMANDA SEALES DISCUSSED HER LIFE EXPERIENCES WHILE SHANNON WAS VERY DISMISSIVE AND HAD AN EXCUSE FOR EVERY SITUATION SHE SPOKE OF.

    • @tonysupreme7603
      @tonysupreme7603 Месяц назад +7

      An excuse or different lens to look through?

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby 29 дней назад +4

      I think if it was a monologue.... her podcast or a one woman play I would go with that. this was an interview... a conversation. its expected that there are follow up questions. any question, which were valid, were met with... a wounded ego. it was weird. he wasn't dismissive and after one time being asked a simple question, she couldnt rebound. she was STUCK all the way in her feelings.she too old for that.

    • @udawg05
      @udawg05 28 дней назад +2

      ​@@jusletursoulglobabythank you. I mean, she agreed to be on his show where she should expect follow up questions. If she can't handle those questions, then don't go on the show. Given her intelligence, i would imagine she did her research on the interviewer and knew what she was walking into. She has her own platforms to give her life story.

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby 28 дней назад

      @@udawg05 it was weird and unfortunate but......well we know academic intelligence and emotional intelligence are two totally different things. she showed that. the "I'm an expert" so basically dont question me energy had me thinking, oh.. you thought this was Small Doses at Club Shay Shay?

    • @jeremylawrence1987
      @jeremylawrence1987 2 дня назад

      Not true

  • @gyfgyf2836
    @gyfgyf2836 29 дней назад +4

    Watching them comment on an interview that they didnt watch in its entirety is laughable...This was her exact point...People take small moments and define an entire situation... if yall gonna talk about an interview at least watch it smh

  • @ramoon9241
    @ramoon9241 Месяц назад +6

    50/50 for me. This group is definitely a tribe called quest because they want to know the scenario rather than the context. She was not politically correct, but the school question was not about math or science. It was about history and a particular group of people that were being mentioned by name as the lowest point of human evolution. It was incorrect and honestly, she should have pointed it out. I think the context matters MORE than the scenario. Do an episode on eugenics and educate yourselves and the public.

  • @anthonycharles8388
    @anthonycharles8388 Месяц назад +4

    Right here at 3’02” he states, “I don’t think Shannon sharpe was wrong when he was explaining to her ……” that’s the issue, though, Shannon does not get to explain to someone about that person’s childhood experiences.

  • @curtiscoffman6735
    @curtiscoffman6735 Месяц назад +19

    Melissa unc didn’t say it was wrong! he said do you think maybe it’s because you were a child.

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +1

      Exactly! He actually said he was offering a different perspective. He wasn’t invalidating her at all. He even acknowledged his experience might be different than hers. The fact that she can’t handle even that - I felt he was actually pretty understanding - then she for sure proved that her “truth” in all her conflicts is not to be trusted.

    • @curtiscoffman6735
      @curtiscoffman6735 Месяц назад +3

      @@tanja0411 exactly! he even complimented her on night cap. These people don’t do they research half way watch things and give their opinion just stupid.

  • @deleteaccount1234567
    @deleteaccount1234567 Месяц назад +18

    Yall defending Shannon being ignorant is hilarious. Just admit his level of competency is not that of Amanda seales or any other academic for that matter.

    • @keithwhite8351
      @keithwhite8351 Месяц назад +1

      What was he being ignorant about?

    • @thepeopleschamp9076
      @thepeopleschamp9076 26 дней назад

      Being ignorant and incompetent are two different things, you should know better.

    • @deedeemonique1
      @deedeemonique1 25 дней назад

      So why would she go on the show that’s hosted by such an ignorant person

  • @jaymack6864
    @jaymack6864 Месяц назад +26

    I don’t agree in the beginning Shannon immediately tried to be little her.

    • @dequanndillard7932
      @dequanndillard7932 Месяц назад +2

      Agreed especially with children being racist part. Racism is taught.

  • @RichardAllenT
    @RichardAllenT Месяц назад +5

    Another horrible take , the moment they said “we watched clips “ I knew none of their opinions wasn’t valid but they was going to try to give an opinion anyway and BINGO , of course it’ll be in favor of Shannon Sharpe . Lmao

  • @Dimeonwheels
    @Dimeonwheels Месяц назад +12

    This by far is THE best and MOST intelligent analysis of Amanada's sit down!!!!! Job well done!

    • @donoc6036
      @donoc6036 Месяц назад +1

      Lmao yall are so ignorant and you don’t even know it

    • @Dimeonwheels
      @Dimeonwheels Месяц назад +1

      @donoc6036 that's your opinion. I've got a right to mine. Thanks

    • @deeelisa1890
      @deeelisa1890 Месяц назад +3

      @@donoc6036if this is what people deem “intelligent analysis” then we are in trouble as a society

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +1

      @@deeelisa1890they used their word but I agree this was more empathetic and respectful analysis of the interview. They didn’t agree with Amanda but I didn’t feel they were dog piling on her like everyone has been doing. It’s ok to not like her but I wish ppl would not just write her off and actually discuss what was talked about like they did.

    • @donoc6036
      @donoc6036 29 дней назад

      @@deeelisa1890 lmao we are so cooked it’s not even funny

  • @Vanessa-iq3vt
    @Vanessa-iq3vt Месяц назад +11

    This was the most fair yet empathic responses to that podcast. So many ppl dogged her out but like yall gave criticisms from a productive understanding perspective. I think its because yall in the industry. Everyone else was commentators from various other industries and they basement.

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад

      I agree this was cooler than what I’ve seen

  • @williamgrierson4133
    @williamgrierson4133 Месяц назад +7

    Group MMMMMM at the beginning in stereo😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @NoMansLand24
    @NoMansLand24 Месяц назад +30

    I’m tired of people saying she’s intelligent what has she done that’s so intelligent?

    • @andrewilliams6367
      @andrewilliams6367 Месяц назад +21

      I tell people all the time that just cause you have a degree, that doesn’t make you intelligent.
      Look at congress and see for yourself.

    • @MonetCherie
      @MonetCherie Месяц назад +11

      Because she uses big words nobody know 😂

    • @GDL364
      @GDL364 Месяц назад +3

      She is intelligent she’s just crazy

    • @poiuyt822
      @poiuyt822 Месяц назад

      Damn u mad and big hating ain’t u?

    • @poiuyt822
      @poiuyt822 Месяц назад

      Don’t nobody ever call u intelligent? lol

  • @goldwaffletv
    @goldwaffletv Месяц назад +4

    Soon to come on BET: Surviving a conversation with Amanda Seals

  • @stanleyonyejiaka9348
    @stanleyonyejiaka9348 Месяц назад +8

    Amanda Seales is the female dame Dash

  • @kassycrawford1258
    @kassycrawford1258 29 дней назад +2

    Thank you for being thoughtful and kind in the discussion of your take on Amanda Sealed. It's easy to dump on someone, people have been having a field day in that woman! Can't lie I was braced for y'all to, as well. 👏🏾💐

  • @harlemking0810
    @harlemking0810 Месяц назад +1

    I been waiting for ya’ll 🔥 take on this one

  • @cdk1067
    @cdk1067 Месяц назад +4

    “Did any of you watch the interview?”
    Collective mumbles…. Some, No, clips, I saw a little… 😂🤣😂 These brothers don’t do research for sh*t 😂.

  • @staygroovybritt
    @staygroovybritt Месяц назад +3

    Loved Mel’s take on the Seales interview

  • @blkporcelaindoll
    @blkporcelaindoll Месяц назад +6

    In the end for that little segment it seems like Joe Budden was the only one that empathize and understood Amands Seales. His critique was well received to me and handled a little better amongst the rest of them.

    • @LauraCharles1985
      @LauraCharles1985 Месяц назад

      Joe was a real friend in this segment and that’s what Amanda is missing. She needs to reevaluate her circle because somebody has to show her where she got things all the way fugged up.

  • @greenenergysolutionsteam
    @greenenergysolutionsteam 29 дней назад +3

    My brother has a PhD and he thinks he's smarter than everyone and he speaks to people that way

  • @marz72818
    @marz72818 Месяц назад +3

    The unanimous “Mmmmmm” 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @martinrosario4018
    @martinrosario4018 Месяц назад +35

    Amanda seales the professional victim lol

    • @kmalls8041
      @kmalls8041 Месяц назад +5

      Professional!? Hall of Famer!

  • @kddyson6171
    @kddyson6171 Месяц назад

    Great conversation! I really enjoyed listening to everyone’s perspective. Spot on!

  • @BigL88
    @BigL88 Месяц назад +5

    Lmfao even these fellas are misinformed 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @papalegbasson2447
    @papalegbasson2447 Месяц назад +19

    Amanda Seales point was why didn't Shannon hold Katt Williams to the same standards. Like you didn't call him out on his bs! Let me spin my narrative in peace in the way you let him😂😂😂

    • @saturnteatree
      @saturnteatree Месяц назад +10

      Did ya’ll watch the katt interview 🤔

    • @naudiaworme4323
      @naudiaworme4323 Месяц назад +11

      He did call out Katt and play Devil's advocate to some of his comments

    • @princelydeeds
      @princelydeeds Месяц назад +4

      "I will treat you fair but not equal." He let Monique getaway with a bunch of shit too. Who is Amanda Seales and why does she deserve so much deference?

    • @704jizzle2
      @704jizzle2 Месяц назад

      What did he call Katt out on? He was agreeing with everything Katt said only thing he rebuttal was when Katt asked him why he didn't say anything to the other people​@@naudiaworme4323

    • @chanelmone4000
      @chanelmone4000 Месяц назад +1

      Katt was too quick with his, Amanda wasn’t that’s the difference 😂

  • @vachonew5904
    @vachonew5904 Месяц назад +33

    I’m sorry but if someone say things racially you can’t say it’s not racist. If someone calls me a N word it don’t matter if kids are being bad kids, that is racial to the kid experiencing it.

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +8

      !!! Louder for the fools who apparently dont mind being called out they name. This not what the ancestors fought for, rollover mentality is crazy

    • @TheRealHousewifeOfPG
      @TheRealHousewifeOfPG Месяц назад +1

      If you step out of your lane as a child, an adult is gonna find you disrespectful if that adult is racist or not.

    • @vachonew5904
      @vachonew5904 Месяц назад +8

      @@TheRealHousewifeOfPG if you listened to the interview there were other instances also. You all act like grown ppl can’t be racist to kids cuz they are a teacher. Y’all act like it wasn’t grown ppl shouting and threatening Ruby Bridges during integration. TF

    • @jabean4rmjerzy
      @jabean4rmjerzy Месяц назад +4

      That’s the point she was making too

    • @92cgray
      @92cgray Месяц назад +1

      Exactly and kids can be racist

  • @adreanhaymond7922
    @adreanhaymond7922 28 дней назад +1

    Thank God for Melissa being informed

  • @herringstheseries
    @herringstheseries Месяц назад +10

    0:02 Damn, the whole crew groaned when he said her name 😂😂😂😂

  • @thebookofronism.723
    @thebookofronism.723 Месяц назад +5

    People confuse education with intelligence. I believe to be intelligent is the ability to communicate with the so-called common man as well as your peers. To assume that you are more intelligent than someone because of your education is in fact hubris. But what do I know 🤔 I'm a drop out. 😅😅😅😅

  • @PersonnetaimeGuy
    @PersonnetaimeGuy Месяц назад +48

    We don't give a fuck bout no Amanda Seales clip we all here for one thing

    • @kevinstewart8054
      @kevinstewart8054 Месяц назад +8

      Gotta wait till Thursday. Joe’s not prioritizing RUclips these days now that he’s with patreon.

    • @THEBBAGLEY29
      @THEBBAGLEY29 Месяц назад

      Right, exactly why 50 washed him. Dropped the damn gems man, nobody care about this.

    • @twizzy585ful
      @twizzy585ful Месяц назад

      What's supposed to drop ??

    • @kant5696
      @kant5696 Месяц назад +1

      @@twizzy585fulhis opinion of the drake and kendrick beef. It may or may not have ended after drake dropped his latest track last night

    • @phabcarter
      @phabcarter Месяц назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @intellektualnupe1241
    @intellektualnupe1241 Месяц назад +2

    Not the self diagnosis and the wanting everything to be racists and the victimization of her life. She needs to sit down immediately.

    • @jusletursoulglobaby
      @jusletursoulglobaby 29 дней назад

      in fairness, a lot of stuff do be racist. people shouldn't dismiss that part bc the overwhelming majority of times, she on point.
      the self diagnosis.... I cant even.

  • @anthonydean7508
    @anthonydean7508 Месяц назад +2

    I'm waiting to hear her address the Myron Rolle situation, because if she did lie on the good brotha, that shit says a lot about her

  • @Shsnshdbandjdbd
    @Shsnshdbandjdbd Месяц назад +5

    I think if u talk down to people you aren’t as smart as you believe almost everyone is inclined in a way but if you can’t benefit from your intelligence what is it worth honestly

  • @Certified_west
    @Certified_west Месяц назад +13

    Drop the ones we waiting on Joe stop with the bullshit

  • @gabbiemac
    @gabbiemac Месяц назад +1

    Melyssa is equal parts gorgeous and well-spoken here 🥵. This is the best discourse I've seen on Amanda. Everybody's contribution was constructive and thought-provoking.

  • @gloriamccoygl
    @gloriamccoygl 29 дней назад +1

    Amanda is too impatient for stupidity

  • @letstalkaboutit7734
    @letstalkaboutit7734 Месяц назад +12

    The teacher & kid example’s weren’t the best things to focus on because she was the only black kid inside of an all white classroom so it’s a little hard to say that she was reading too deep into that situation given that she was an honor roll student yet the teacher called a parent teacher conference with her.

  • @Timskee1
    @Timskee1 Месяц назад +41

    She got mad when Shannon was not about to trauma bond with her

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад +4

      such a good point. really true

    • @bornkinguniversal
      @bornkinguniversal Месяц назад +3

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @blkporcelaindoll
      @blkporcelaindoll Месяц назад +1

      No his actions vary from who's on his show from whether he likes them or not. Whether he's friends with the person that is talking about. Because he tried the same mess with Monique and she handled him and some of that stuff went over his head too. Plus, Monique definitely bought her receipt and Shannon heard them even though he tried to play devil's advocate😂.

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +3

      She got mad when he defended randoms he never met rather than honor the guest he is interviewing and if nothing else just move to the next question without a rebuttal and excuse for racists. A simple “wow that sounds like a crazy experience, let’s move to something else” would have sufficed. But instead it was “the teacher nor racist, the student not racist, people not racist”

    • @tanja0411
      @tanja0411 Месяц назад

      @@414awill that’s your interpretation. He didn’t defend randoms - he literally had a different perspective on the situation. If she knew anything about him or cared to understand a different viewpoint she could have engaged with him and had a really interesting and productive discussion. But she’s unable to do that with anyone because of her anger and defensiveness. She always demands so much validation and perfect behavior from others and then throws a fit and attacks them when she doesn’t get it. Did she ever consider another black person might have a different experience and she could be interested in that? Just like the autism conversation. She didn’t get diagnosed “because, you know, racism.” Actually no. It’s under diagnosed for so many people because it’s difficult to diagnose if you’re on the lower end of the spectrum. And for women in particular because we present differently. Not everything is some big plot against her and I think Shannon was trying to figure out how to have that convo but didn’t feel safe enough asking her. So you think she’d be a good interview guest. She was putting on a show rather than having a two-sided conversation. When did she show she cares about him? Other guests come in and are excited/happy to talk to him. Respect shown is respect given and she doesn’t do that to people. Most of all she is unable to take a step back and see all parts in a relationship dynamic and meet the other person halfway. I’m sure she’s had difficult experiences and she’s been wronged. We ALL have but it’s up to us how we deal with all that and move forward. What she doing is not helpful to anyone, particularly to herself.
      It’s irritating to see people blame Shannon Sharpe. It’s valid to not like him but he didn’t treat her any differently. But - just like all her other “conflicts” her attitude makes progress hard. Unless you admire or agree with her of course. You don’t think that would make a 3 hour interview very very difficult? He took a step back too and told her he wasn’t going to interject anymore - that’s self-awareness. When has she given that grace to others? To me it’s sad. Just my opinion.

  • @ShankFinatra
    @ShankFinatra Месяц назад

    Great perspectives! They all made sense.

  • @rejoiceonYouTube
    @rejoiceonYouTube 11 дней назад

    This was a well-directed conversation. Flowed very well. Mel is good at being informed on topics and presenting. Everyone got a chance to speak lol.

  • @Travelbum3000
    @Travelbum3000 Месяц назад +5

    This podcast would be perfect if Parks never talked!

    • @kilrn4l510
      @kilrn4l510 Месяц назад +2

      Fuxk outta here. Parks and his legendary one-liners are awesome.

    • @Travelbum3000
      @Travelbum3000 Месяц назад

      @@kilrn4l510 that’s your opinion. I find dude to be annoying asf 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @nijmahcreations3728
    @nijmahcreations3728 Месяц назад +9

    If you did not watch the full 3 hours to actually give a valued opinion then just don't!

    • @a.sam.2976
      @a.sam.2976 Месяц назад +3

      I watched the whole thing (wasted 3 hours) and it was cringe.

    • @asherbrown7637
      @asherbrown7637 27 дней назад

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @ImOnPoint
    @ImOnPoint 27 дней назад +1

    Amanda at war and there's no enemy.

  • @joey4523
    @joey4523 Месяц назад +7

    There's more shots thrown at club shay shay than at hot 97 in the 90s.

  • @allgelliebeaneverything1247
    @allgelliebeaneverything1247 Месяц назад +5

    Issa gotta get that assistant ALL the way together.

    • @angelab9171
      @angelab9171 Месяц назад +3

      Vanessa isn’t Issa’s assistant. Vanessa is a successful Publicist and Issa is one of her clients.

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian Месяц назад +2

      ​@@angelab9171 why did she say Amanda can't come in the party? That was wack

    • @pizzeo
      @pizzeo Месяц назад

      @@ANTIStraussian You ever been around Amanda Seales at a party?

    • @angelab9171
      @angelab9171 Месяц назад +2

      @@ANTIStraussian when you’re throwing a party do you invite people you don’t like and who you know don’t like you?

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian Месяц назад +1

      @@angelab9171 she was invited 🤣🤣🤣😅😅😂😂😂😩

  • @SopHiZzl3
    @SopHiZzl3 29 дней назад

    Of all of the takes I've seen on this topic...this is one of the best. Very balanced

  • @ty_insights
    @ty_insights 29 дней назад +1

    Female host brings incredible insight. Nice balance to the show.

  • @ra1288
    @ra1288 Месяц назад +14

    She also said she's on the spectrum, which affects receptive and expressive communicating

    • @angelab9171
      @angelab9171 Месяц назад +22

      She later said she actually wasn’t diagnosed with autism. She diagnosed herself then used her self diagnosis to excuse her bad behavior.

    • @papiramen5915
      @papiramen5915 Месяц назад +5

      Doesn’t really work that way tbh. Having someone else tell you what you are doesn’t change what you are. Just makes someone else accept it. Point is, if she’s in the spectrum, all her experiences could be what she’s saying. Sounds like she just never had anyone listen to her and she’s fighting to be understood. Which causes a bunch of other issues on top of if she’s on the spectrum or not.

    • @kant5696
      @kant5696 Месяц назад +14

      @@papiramen5915if thats the case we all can make claims of being on the spectrum to justify our crappy attitudes or moments. There is a reason we have professionals who go to learn about the body, medicine, advanced sciences so that we dont have random joes just making things up when does or doesnt suit them

    • @angelab9171
      @angelab9171 Месяц назад +10

      @@papiramen5915 the key being IF she’s on the spectrum. There are too many nuances on the spectrum for her to diagnose herself. She has no expertise to diagnose autism. That’s not even debatable.

    • @TheRealHousewifeOfPG
      @TheRealHousewifeOfPG Месяц назад +2

      She self diagnosed

  • @Thashining
    @Thashining Месяц назад +5

    I think you should have her on your show since you're all so critical of her.

  • @9th_child
    @9th_child Месяц назад

    I need info on Joe's shoes....Who made them???

  • @Brooklynquietmoney
    @Brooklynquietmoney 29 дней назад

    Mel absolutely killed her take well spoken thoughtful and graceful

  • @Markos-ju7rz
    @Markos-ju7rz Месяц назад +3

    You know it’s bad when someone say your name and everyone goes “mmmm, mhmm” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @BobbyJOnline
    @BobbyJOnline Месяц назад +7

    So the ENTIRE industry is wrong about Amanda?? 😂😂😂😂😂 Her reputation is all her fault. And reputation spreads faster than wild fire within the industry!

    • @414awill
      @414awill Месяц назад +2

      Remember Joe had a bad reputation too. Even up to Rory and Mal fallout. Yet he still has people that think highly of him and so does she. Or else she wouldn’t have last 5 seasons on the best Black sitcom of this generation and still be on the radios of people across 20 major markets in the country (among other things)

    • @possiblymaybe6711
      @possiblymaybe6711 Месяц назад +5

      She literally talks in the interview about all the people who like a dndefended her and tried to get her into the party.

  • @lovejonestvee
    @lovejonestvee 29 дней назад

    I'm about to start calling all my disagreements "pow wows"😂✔️

  • @RozCanSell
    @RozCanSell День назад

    Mel is nailing it, very good feedback.

  • @RichardAllenT
    @RichardAllenT Месяц назад +6

    They don’t understand her point but let Katt spill out hell of lies and rumors and was applauding it . Be fr 😭

    • @marcusdunton1692
      @marcusdunton1692 26 дней назад

      same thing I said, they are literally proving her point.

  • @longfeet14
    @longfeet14 Месяц назад +5

    If 'Diary of a mad black woman' was a person

  • @thewatchmensknowledge4914
    @thewatchmensknowledge4914 24 дня назад

    Nothing but facts here!! Great show yall

  • @alleb30
    @alleb30 Месяц назад +1

    Letting Mel talk is a great thing. Let's do that

  • @georgeboyd5670
    @georgeboyd5670 Месяц назад +4

    Amanda has always been her worst enemy. Plays the consummate victim role without taking any accountability.