@@rhettmitchella couple weeks ago. I personally wanna know why they would do that when the person posting the link is the video's creator. it hurts shorts creators who are trying to get more longform video engagement they should've just disabled links that go to sites outside of RUclips.
No you shouldn't feel bad. She is just not good at what she tried to do, but her ego prevents her from admitting failure so she just makes excuses for it.
@DanielSmith-nf3lv what she saying makes sense if you consider she was funny enough to grow as the top subbed woman of her time. But not any of her fans could actually say her show was fun.
For those of you who don’t understand she’s saying the working conditions were not great. It sounds like her writers team had half the resources of writers teams at a similar scale on tv. That’s bound to be an ineffective workplace.
But the working conditions really shouldn’t have an effect on your writing.. like she said herself that they were really talented and funny.. so they should be able to come up with good stuff even if it’s just with a piece of paper and pencil in a dungeon..
@@whoville1064”working conditions shouldn’t have an effect on your writing” - what? You’re telling me, that when you’re stressed, in less than ideal conditions, and overworked - you still put out your best work? You, week after week, can put out 100% when your working conditions don’t support that??? Revisit this mindset once you’re not a child - work output is directly related to working conditions.
@@giannidescalzo2101 “romanticizing” 💀 do you know wtf that word means? How is saying that a good crew should be able to do their job if they’re so good at it like she says they are romanticizing anything?
@@kaskaskasno it’s pretty much the exact definition of putting out terrible content on purpose…. If she knew it was terrible then she put it out on purpose lmao
the industry took advantage of lily so awfully they changed her entire content to fit a certain demographic that most of her recurring viewers known her for. her content was super fresh & funny & original not seen on here before by a poc woman! sad to see they milked her work like that but she’s always been a creative mind & funny asf 😂 EDIT: stay MAD
@@RoseGoldPDXand if I recall she doubled down on the white/men jokes hard and helped exclude certain demographics from her audience, instead of naturally attracting those who would enjoy her content.
Uh, no. She’s definitely not some sort of victim in this. Self awareness is important and she could have just said no. She could have realized that her style was more suited for skits and kids and also, she was making so much money on RUclips. She got greedy and power hungry and wanted to move up in the world as she saw it. She was doing amazing on RUclips. She’s just not funny in interviews and as a stand alone comedian. The people who are funny in that way don’t need writers. Ever watch your favorite comedians in interviews? No writing, just talking off the cuff and they’re hilarious. Those comedians may not be suited to doing great on RUclips. Like Bill Burr. He’s one of my favorites, funny on stage and as a comedian but his RUclips channel doesn’t do great. You have to know HOW you’re funny and stick with it. I don’t hate her or anything, I used to really love her skits, but she just isn’t funny in the talk show kinda way. There’s nothing wrong with that. She has plenty of talent, but it doesn’t translate to that type of comedy. No amount of writers could’ve fixed that. You need great timing, charisma, and other intangibles to be funny in the way she was trying to be.
that’s not an excuse, if Smosh could write funny videos back when it was just the 2 of them then her “FUNNY” writers could also work with what they have as well, she says they were really funny so how are they writing crap jokes?
@@r1r1_1. that doesn’t really justify anything. If you don’t have a comedic background why try to make a comedic show, and anyway this comment was about the writers
@@zenthous9568 probably cause she thought the show would go alright and won't be as bad as it is rn and she probably doesn't have funny writers either idk why she said that cause if they were the jokes would've been funny too I don't think she had the proper resources for this too she just started it cause she was getting famous cause of her relatable youtube videos and thought the show can't go that wrong but here we r now
She's so cringe lol. I cant see how anyone could like her jokes. It's basically a political show made with comedy instead of a comedy show that talks about politics
Ppl saying that her writers need to give her better jokes haven't seen her yt videos from 2013-2014 (they are not as bad as her late night show but still pretty unfunny)
@@BananasPogoshe isnt even blaming anyone u must be sped😭 she clearly said her writers r talented be so fucking fr and what comments r u talking bout lol u just clearly hate her sm its idiotic she admitted to her jokes being unfunny yall still wanna jump her😭😭🙏
She’s been making RUclips videos since like 2012 before she became an official comedian, and she actually used to be pretty funny. Yeah people change, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t her fault.
@@joelp23she is the first RUclipsr realistically to have had her own late night talk show, unfortunately that definitely doesn’t hold up in mainstream Hollywood it seems.
@@joelp23 Lmao how old are you? Ever heard of a little thing called being professional? Start working kiddo and then you will understand that there are plenty of things at work you dont agree with but you have to put on a smile and do it anyway. Its called life.
Yeah people don't understand that writers/artists/actors/performers/etc can't do their best work if they're not being paid enough or the conditions aren't good. It's incredibly idealistic to believe that people in these types of careers can do well in any circumstances. Creativity comes from a healthy brain, and stress, fatigue, burnout, etc will kill that creativity. There has to be an external and internal environment where creativity can be nurtured and grown. You can't plant saplings in crappy soil and then give it a cup of water and expect it to flourish.
What about her channel? In it's prime it was one of the hugest on the RUclips platform. She was doing well with her own stuff when it was her priority years ago.
@@annamay731it was more about timing than anything. She started in 2010 when the platform was still in its infant stages and was able to capitalize on it. Good for her. But there's a reason her prime time ended around 2014.
Ohh I can't believe that she actually admitted this. I pretty much saw it on her face during her shows, that probably she wasn't enjoying what she said. 'cause I'm an OG subscriber of her, I've known her on screen and her humor.
Wow. She STILL hasn't learnt. I've seen her devolving over the years. She first called everyone who genuinely critiqued the worst parts as "HATERS". She went in everywhere saying every single bit is HER. And now she won't own up. Again. It's shocking how I used to look up to her once.
I call bs. Just like Mia Khalifa and her sob story. Turns out that when they see things aren't working in their favor and/or that nobody is on their side anymore, they try to play victim and shift the blame on to others. It's always what someone else did, and not what THEY did. There's no accountability whatsoever
@lucky4d725 She said she knew it wasn't funny. Use your brain listen again to what she said. Her explaining why it wasn't good doesn't erase the fact that it wasn't good.
@@caitthecat noone said it "erases the fact that it wasn't good". Instead of coping what I said maybe spend more attention to what was actually being said in the video.
Just because 1 person can do it. Doesn't mean everyone in the profession can do it. Everyone has their own working way. Improvising is good trait but not everyone can have it.
Different strokes of comedy. Improv comedians could have a hard time making a script work and scripted comedians would have a hard time improvising. Its just what you specialize in
@@bapparawal2457 “everyone in the profession” is the key phrase their. Yes actually, a good comedian knows how to improv and make material seem funnier and more clever than it is…….. but she’s not a comedian.
Did that same writers room write her jokes at the nba roast? This is obviously a deflection after all the criticism she has faced and it’s unfortunate she’s putting it on her writers(even though she states otherwise I do not believe her)
The problem of writing rooms is not the amount of writers in it. Its a problem of does it fit your performer? You can write the funniest Simpsons joke ever, it won't work for Jimmy Fallon but it may work for Conan. Yes talent (and i mean that in both ability as well as what performers are called) matters. There are two head writers in a comedy writing room. The head writer, and the performer. The performer has to know AND has to recognize what works with their style. Great jokes get killed all the time. Great jokes fall flat too. But a good performer embraces the flat jokes to give us a wink and acknowledge that was painful. Conan, Colbert, Ferguson, Letterman -- they delivered turkeys and made jokes about it. Fallon on the other hand is going the opposite way, and it works for him I guess because he's still on the air. Lilly Singh didn't lead that writing room, and so the writers wrote jokes that were for them, but not for her -- and thats a big part of comedy. Like a Robin Williams joke, you can't pull it off, yet someone wrote it so you deliver it anyway?
Well , there's a red flag. "I didnt get the right setup. I wasn't given enough" , and so the apparatus is at fault , "NOT ME" . Didnt get a big enough team. Well Lily, your hosting was uncomfortable and painful to watch too, go find someone to blame for that now. She's so full of herself I swear
Omg she could've just stopped. She did it for MONEY & FAME, yet she's the type like AOC that would show up saying Eat the Rich knowing damn we she IS the rich benefiting off capitalism like everyone else
Thats why traditionally hosts have a writing background, a stand-up background, or an improv background. Conan was more hilarious during the writers strike, when he was doing almost everything unscripted, or loosely scripted.
Yup! Conan O Brien also wrote for the Simpsons and SNL before he had his own show, he is also great and doing improv and actually excels with this type of content. After seeing “Conan without borders” I’m convinced that traveling while interviewing people is his best type of content.
considering all this, lilly did an amazing job then for someone without all that background. she still carried a whole late night show for however long she did... everyone is humiliating her. i don't know how much of it can be called a set up for her to not succeed though. because she was a beginner and first person of her league to do this, it's like she kinda had a huge burden to carry and make work for her and it was all on her. for someone starting, they gave her something small, i don't think that's unfair but i also can't speak to it because idk sh!t about the industry and don't know what it's like. what if every host needs a bigger room from the jump in order to succeed. what if it's compulsory and determines the trajectory of success.
She's always been bad, still can't understand what people saw in her beyond consistency ? She was consistent and hard working but never talented comedically
@@c.lineofficial Nah, he calls his audience "Guy," but this could be a joke because there's a very long running joke that Danny & Drew are the same person.
I LOVE her for admitting this. Used to eat up her content and couldn’t stand it when she was getting shit on. But admittedly didn’t like the content either. What a legend for being candid
The conspiracy theorist part of me was that network exec levels could easily make an example out of her to keep new talent out (play into the assumption women or minorities aren't funny), especially if it threatens the ratings or writing pool for other projects. I used to hate Lily simply because of the few clips from her show but I understand her a bit more now.
probably because she was trying to keep her show alive even if she didn't like it bc it was a stable income for her and the whole crew. also probably bc the issues were ones she was aware of and couldn't fix due to resources/execs. she was pissed because they were right and she knew it but couldn't do anything. that's my guess.@@bq2833
Yeah, I mean, if the stuff isn’t funny…write funnier stuff. Or lower your salary in order to hire more writers. There’s a saying in golf: “Play better golf.” It’s amazing how many problems it solves.
comedy usually takes a really long time to write, plus it goes under review from loads of different ppl, if you’ve got half the ppl and half the time, material just ain’t got time to be refined
@@justsomename-ct1mb well yh, but think about a funny situation you were in, something that you still laugh about today. have you ever tried telling someone a funny story but it doesn’t sound funny when you recount it and they don’t get it? chances are that story is funny, you just haven’t told it right, good comedy writers refine and test and refine again until they got everybody laughing. it’s the same with all jokes, they take work. problem is, if you and the idk like 3 other ppl are given a couple days to write a whole comedy set, you might put shit in that’s only kinda funny or hasn’t been written properly to be the funniest it can be, then if you don’t have the time to work on it, it’s gonna come out pretty bad now you can find lily singh not funny, that’s alright, comedy is the most subjective art form, but do remember it’s an art that takes a lot of time and work
@@leeartedwards again. There’s a difference between kind of funny and not funny at all. What she was describing sounds bad, terrible in fact. But that’s a quality issue not a quantity. It only takes ONE funny person to write ONE funny joke. So if she had a room full of supposedly funny writers how come there wasn’t a single funny joke. Consistently. And as for that example, that’s different from writing. One is and the other is preparing something funny with a prompt, both are extremely easy IF your funny. Actually funny. I think a lot of the issue comes from that word being thrown around too much. I could understand if most of the jokes were bad. Or if some of them fell flat. Or if it felt rushed or whatever. But all of that is different than having a bunch of people (no matter how many) turn in jokes that are ALL terrible. It’s impossible to have multiple “writers” together (no matter how many more people they may need ideally” and not come out with a single, just one, funny thing.
Just so people know in the vid she says that her writers room was half the size and due to a lower budget, while other shows were filming one episode a day they had to do 3 within the span of 96(or something) leading everyone to be VERY burnt out.
@@KS-xk2so look I’m just saying what she said. Or at least what I think she said it’s been a couple days since I watched the video. If you’d like you can watch it yourself.
@@KS-xk2soyou have weekends. Plus, not all of the episodes were released. There was a RUclipsr who went to the live shows and she said that she went to 3 shows and none of them had aired. She wanted to compare the live event with the edited one to critique on it and according to her, they did not air.
im a POC and i couldnt sit through a single episode. the entire show from start to finish is WHITE MEN = BAD IM RICH, YOU'RE POOR LMAO she had every opportunity to change it at any time it was her fkn show. she just couldnt handle the backlash she didnt plan on getting. because what humour is easier in 2023 than slandering the entire white race? be honest
I don’t think directors have a say in writing, they do have a say in what they say (as she pointed out) but all movie directors and producers have screen writers
And since she was director, shouldn't she have had SOME influence over the writing? She's not helpless. Her improv, what little there was of it, was pretty bad too
@@surreal-wandererit seems it doesn't need more, but better writers. You guys put out so much garbage, it's just sad. The solution is easy. Put out less stuff and and hire talented people for it and the rest go, since it's obviously not their thing. But no we're not doing that. People fail and get promoted for it. Get jobs to fill a quota and not because they're actually qualified to do it good. So yeah, go strike. It won't improve quality. It's just for untalented people, that shouldn't work there in the first place, to keep their job and put out more shit into the world. That is the reality of things.
@@mailtears oh no, were these few words allready too much for you to handle? You poor soul. I know reading is hard. Here have a few more. Or did you just don't like what i had to say? Either way it doesn't matter. We still get garbage movies from talentless writers. Hollywoods relevance dwindles as people have cought on.
But the way she handled that criticism was horrible...and she said the critics were virgins, like that's somehow an insult? She was also virgin for a long time? Hypocrisy.
I admire her for admitting this, but she kept saying that people criticizing the writing of her show were haters and would talk about how successful she was compared to everyone talking about her show.
It’s still a pretty big deal. Plus, people can learn and grow. She def had an ego back then and I stopped watching her completely, but a lot of people were hating on her back then for the stupid things too.
I personally think she wasn’t allowed to say any of this, because she probably had a contact with the network, so she wasn’t allowed to say that what she was saying wasn’t funny, and she also was like probably embarrassed and just wanted to protect herself because she was upset that she had to say thisbstuff and pretend that it was funny when she didn’t think it was funny
Lilly, they are LITERALLY the same exact "jokes" youve always said, and still do.....Like LITERALLY. Did those writers also write your personal Ted Talk?
Stop stop stop. I worked for a super successful LATE NIGHT talk show and she absolutely chooses her jokes every day, and to pander, “not blaming the writers”? I saw her writers group, the show I worked for had the same size room. The writers pour over media every day looking for content, and they’re constantly searching for material, they make a ton of recommendations in the morning and she goes through and picks and chooses what she wants. Then they polish and she contributes. I call BS
@@WaffleSaladlmao, you think Lilly is the only person who has ever been under any kind of pressure in Hollywood. Craig Ferguson had 4 writers compared to 7 for Lilly, yet he was funny and insightful every day.
@@aolson1111 they had to do 3x the work of the other late night shows with a smaller crew. They shot three episodes a day instead of other comedians that do one a day. Plus she had to film them all in advance (that means no jokes about current news/topics bc they would no longer be relevant and funny)
What a lot of people forget is, her delivery wasn't helping either. The thing is, if you gave Kristen Wiig, Sarah Paulson, Jessica Kirson or Kate Mckinnon a show, they would've become the next THING. Lilly was never that funny to begin with, and there's nothing wrong with that, we all suck at something. All it takes is time and practice, but she doesn't think she needs it, she's a know-it-all
@@MrColdwilliamexcept the crappy project is THEIRS to take accountability for - that’s not the same scripted tv. Idk where people get this magnifying glass to see victimhood charade on other people at any place where they are processing justification.
Dave Chapelle has one writer for jokes whenever he steps on stage. Him. He is him. If you're a comedian and you're saying you're not funny because your writing team is smaller than other non-funny people, then it's safe to say you're not a comedian
When she was confronted about the show being bad in the past, I remember her getting very defensive and claiming people didn’t like it because they’re discriminating against her race, sexuality, and gender. She said some pretty nasty things about people critiquing her. Why is she now willing to admit she knew it was bad? Is she going to apologize for her previous comments?
@@Pidatha It does but if people actually watched the video and listened to her explain the process and her own views leading up to some of the responses you would understand that truly was the case. She had been set up to fail. And when she realized her ship was sinking, she still had to step out wearing a big smile. There was no way she could have been able to walk away not feeling some type of way about a failed show. Add on some critical and rude comments and of course she would snap. Cause even though the show may have flopped that was a test of a mettle for her, and some could argue she passed(mettle-wise). But she didn't pass the aftermath, she couldn’t handle the comments which shitted on her unseen efforts, and resolve, let's not forget she was kinda set up to fail. Of course it felt personal. Of course she personally felt attacked. If anything this is another reason why when you get to a certain level you should have a team that keeps you off the internet because when you start a downward spiral there's no taking it back. Lilly acknowledged that some channels critiquing her were spot on BUT there were some who were straight up rude and not at all understanding. So why would they deserve an apology? You can't hold Lilly to one standard and then not hold the rude ass Channels to the same standard. Let's not pretend people weren't rude af to her and that channels dragging her didn't exist.
Aren’t you a human? Defending something you invested so much time blood sweat and tears should not be a foreign concept if you’ve ever lived or gone outside
Going to call bulshit on that. I remember a few years ago when her talk show came out and people were talking about how bad it was, obviously there were people just being Trolls but there was a lot of people giving constructive criticism and all she ever did was talk about how successful she was and how funny she was. What I think happened was that she went from making content for children that was relatively easy to make, to making content for adults which proved to be out of her field of depth.
She wasn't the one writing her show and on contracts you have to promote your show and you can't talk shit about it, sometimes ever if you sign an NDA. Also how embarrassing to have to admit you know your show you dreamed of was shit.
Was she supposed to talk negatively about a project she’s the face of? That’s not a good look either. I do think she should’ve ignored the hate or be more chill about it. It would’ve made her look a little more confident
@@gracekang2161 i agree with ur sentiment but she’s blaming everyone around her instead, so honestly the show STILL looks bad but now it’s even more off putting since she’s just separating herself from them even tho they were supposed to symbolize a team. it’s embarrassing to throw them under the bus
You saw that with the earlier writers' strike. Some shows continued to be funny without writers and some weren't (although the Daily Show relied heavily on Brit John Oliver and Canadians Samantha Bee and Jason Jones).
That’s literally what i just said. It should only take ONE funny person to make at least ONE funny joke. Let alone if everybody isn’t here was “funny”. Everybody throws that word around nowadays, everybody thinks they’re funny. But in reality people are just easy to entertain and the skill ceiling is lower if you’re an follower and an idiot. It makes being actually funny both more rewarding, and more annoying perceptively. 🤦🏽♂️
Sounds like damage control to me. It's not just her show that was unfunny. She did it for a paycheck because she wasn't bothered about making RUclips content at the time. Pitching a late night comedy show for a zoomer audience when the format was dieing for 5 years prior was just a horrible business decision by management anyway
she mentioned in the full video, if you watch it, that the contract they had was for 96 episodes in 3 months. she went into it fully intending to make youtube videos at the same time, but soon realised that wasn't possible. Also, of course she did it for the paycheck. Most of us work for a paycheck. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't even bother getting out of bed most days
But she already had a paycheck for the work she was doing and a decent paycheck at that. However, she let greed win and chased a bigger paycheck for what she deemed as less work, and it has rightfully ruined her reputation, which granted not hard but still. No matter how you slice it she was well off and didn't need more money yet she chased it anyway.
@@Not_An_EV " as less work"? 96 episodes in 3 months was gonna be less work? i really suggest you watch the full episode. she seems like a hardworking person and it seemed more about the challenge of doing something new. it's really worthy of respect. also, i don't think she should regret it because it failed, as she herself put it in the full video, it accomplished other things. also, there's nothing wrong with chasing more money. again, we all do it. quitting a job to go to a better paying one is incredibly common, and it's called career growth.
it was a good opportunity n tbh i don’t think her reputations been ruined. the jokes there were just cringier versions of what she was already doing on youtube, she was just given a different platform. though i can understand your point about greed (and somewhat agree with it, there’s an inherent greediness to these sorts of things)i think she was also trying to cement herself into a different industry. multiple things can exist at once !!
Exactly. She got the bag. She got the “fame” (just not the way she wanted), she couldn’t lead the show in a good direction so didn’t get more resources. All while she got paid the most out of anyone on the show and walked away with the bank. Now she gets to sit here and take zero responsibility and claim she herself is a victim. Give me a break. If that’s a victim, sign me up.
Hold on so the writers are funny but since there were not a lot of them, it’s not funny? I don’t get it. I mean the more the merrier and more people can check other people ideas and work but how can they be funny but the idea not be funny?
Ok. Less people means less resources, I get that. But those fewer people can still be funny and good at what they do, no? Less people would explain inconsistency in quality to fill out the airtime, but not always missing the mark. If you or your people are good at their format it has to hit sometimes, right? To me, the honest impression is that: 1. RUclips Humor does not really translate on TV, which is fine. 2. The established format of the rigid Night Talk Show was just not a good fit for her or any female RUclipsr, as pointed out by people like Brittany Broski. 3. People trying to write for you and dilute your appeal in the process, by just trying to imitate something you might say, is always bad. Honestly it is a tale as old as time by now, as to why a lot of RUclipsrs ditched trying to do TV and stuff: They dont want YOU as a person, they want your AVATAR to bring in a new audience, but you are forced to still project their same old content/format. Which is a recipe for disaster, because RUclips Personalities get famous FOR their personality, it is in the name. If they limit your selfexpression which got you so far in the first place you will tank, because your fans recognize it is not really you and the rest of the audience does not know what to make of you.
If 1 person has to do the work of 2 people, it's always gonna be worse. Everything has to be less good, in order for it to all be done at the end of the day.
@@chiedzawith2ds While I somewhat agree, imo there is more to it. The disconnect between RUclipsrs and TV people, be it writers, hosts etc. Something is not clicking, mainly the need for structure and strict monitoring that takes away what makes a RUclipsr special in the first place. TV shows have a different, broader audience - so the nisché that got you famous on RUclips is not sufficient enough to create mass-appealing content. And thats where writers start to think "Well, what COULD a/this RUclipsr say, but also fit our show?" and it is downhill from there. You cant make the RUclipsr a blank slate Avatar for the writers' talent to shine through, cuz why cast a RUclipsr in the first place then? But you also cant make the RUclipsr do all the work by themselves, because of the tight time schedule. So the in between solution always comes off as hollow and not genuine. So to me, them not being able to make her funny, is more about the format and disconnect, than people - otherwise something would have been good or promising...although understaffing obviously did not help
The producers half-assed the show. The writers were underpaid and overworked. Lily was very new to the talk show business. It's a miracle that the show went on as long as it did. It's true you can be funny with few people in the writing room, but what if those few people were under so much stress like she tells in the video? You cannot be comedic when you're stressed.
How is that hard to understand? You can be a very talented artist, but when you have to pump out three paintings everyday, they’re bound to suck eventually
Take Colbert's show. He has writers on staff that get maybe one joke in per show on average, meaning that writer's stuff was good enough to get him in the door, but, for the first year or so, gets minimal screen time. These freshman writers are good, but are barely used more than senior writers to bounce their jokes off of for Colbert to use. They get seasoned or sacked over time. You have half the writers? You gotta hope they're all senior quality with very few gaps.
@@books2438have you ever heard her show it sounds like she doesn’t even have writers tbh. For something to drop in quality it has to have quality to begin with
Not the comments not understanding what shes distinctly understanding. Doesnt matter if you didnt like her original content either. The show wasnt the same as when she was writing her own stuff either.😊
She's just making excuses and saying she knows that it was bad now to try and help her public image. Because it wasn't even the quality of the jokes that was the main problem; it was the whole condescending, divisive *style* of comedy that she's not going to convince me that she herself didn't choose to do.
Im indian, i used to love lilly. What had happened to her? Playing victim bcz u realize ur no longer funny and u failed. It is such a poor show on her part that she is subtly blaming the production or the writers... so so poor. If ur the host, u take charge. Thats how it works. Also wokeism was never funny. So thats the moral of the lesson.
People should go watch the first 8 minutes of the full video. This clip comes up along with context that’s edited out of the short. She did not just have half the writers. She had half the writers, pumping out THREE episodes a day. Other late night shows record one per weekday, and they do it day of. Her schedule was to pre record all 90 episodes back to back, which also implies she can’t be commenting on daily happenings the way late night shows usually do.
The only reason for all this was to accommodate her own already packed schedule. Her rep negotiated this pace, hoping Lilly could just show up & perform instead of WORKING on her own show at all. She should have been honest about not having time when NBC approached but it’s all about ego. The money & opportunity was too good to pass up I guess…
So why is her other content the same. her other jokes on her shorts and youtube are identical because she jokes about the same stuff but its still not funny. like it would make sense if her standup was completely different topics, but they aint.
You didn’t watch the full interview you watched one clip in the interview she also admits she didn’t know what she was doing and part of the blame lands on her
@@RaeezTheDeadPoet of all the people in the world, Lilly (even on RUclips) hasn’t been nearly one of the funniest or most interesting. I genuinely can’t think of a single question I’d care to know. To each their own but she’s just kinda bland online
@@_sch_eme_ mhm. As a diversity dyke I think I have the right to say that someone being part of a minority doesn’t inherently make someone funny, nor does the existence of it automatically make funny jokes. Most of her jokes were about her race, which were they creative could have resulted in a funny niche. There are a bunch of amazingly talented poc comedians, like Gabriel Iglesias, Vishnu Vaka (it might be Vish Nuvaka, I’m sorry I’m horrible with names), and Learnmore Jonasi. There are so many more but these are definitely my favourites. Compared to Lilly, they write their own stuff, have good delivery, and genuinely are interesting. I get it, being underfunded sucks, but she didn’t ever deserve a talk show in the first place because she wasn’t funny under her own schedule on RUclips. I think diversity is much needed in Hollywood and on talk shows, although they are a dying medium so perhaps in whatever sparks up to replace it. Regardless, the world does not need Lilly Singh in anything, and I don’t think anyone older than 12 would really care to see her go.
This just sounds like an excuse. 1 talented writer can make that show, a whole team of them failed. They were not funny, its okay to accept defeat and failure. Being half the size makes no difference at all.
Right, that’s where she lost me. She said they were so funny and talented. But then regardless of the size of her team. Her stuff still should have been funny.
watch the full vid here: ruclips.net/video/S5c1gOMnXOo/видео.html
The link don’t work
@@rockyrivergardens2650that's because yt disabled links on comments
@@_desibees1876wtf when did they do that??
@@rhettmitchella couple weeks ago. I personally wanna know why they would do that when the person posting the link is the video's creator. it hurts shorts creators who are trying to get more longform video engagement
they should've just disabled links that go to sites outside of RUclips.
@@rhettmitchell2 months ago
This actually feels so sad after watching all those videos completely tearing her apart
No you shouldn't feel bad. She is just not good at what she tried to do, but her ego prevents her from admitting failure so she just makes excuses for it.
@@badwolf3618someone needs to watch the whole video and not just this one clip
@@badwolf3618lol she just admitted to some failure
@@badwolf3618womp womp womp
@DanielSmith-nf3lv what she saying makes sense if you consider she was funny enough to grow as the top subbed woman of her time. But not any of her fans could actually say her show was fun.
For those of you who don’t understand she’s saying the working conditions were not great. It sounds like her writers team had half the resources of writers teams at a similar scale on tv. That’s bound to be an ineffective workplace.
But the working conditions really shouldn’t have an effect on your writing.. like she said herself that they were really talented and funny.. so they should be able to come up with good stuff even if it’s just with a piece of paper and pencil in a dungeon..
@@whoville1064nah, u have never worked before lmaoooo
@@whoville1064”working conditions shouldn’t have an effect on your writing” - what? You’re telling me, that when you’re stressed, in less than ideal conditions, and overworked - you still put out your best work? You, week after week, can put out 100% when your working conditions don’t support that???
Revisit this mindset once you’re not a child - work output is directly related to working conditions.
@@whoville1064time alone would be a huge challenge. I think you may be romanticizing creative work a bit here.
@@giannidescalzo2101 “romanticizing” 💀 do you know wtf that word means? How is saying that a good crew should be able to do their job if they’re so good at it like she says they are romanticizing anything?
I’m just glad she knows it’s bad lmao
It feels good knowing that she wasn’t putting out terrible content on purpose. She was just powering through and i respect it
Same.
@@kaskaskasno it’s pretty much the exact definition of putting out terrible content on purpose…. If she knew it was terrible then she put it out on purpose lmao
@@kaskaskasshe was still getting money
@@NOISEEROOMGotta put food on the table. I would do it too for a check wdym.
the industry took advantage of lily so awfully they changed her entire content to fit a certain demographic that most of her recurring viewers known her for. her content was super fresh & funny & original not seen on here before by a poc woman! sad to see they milked her work like that but she’s always been a creative mind & funny asf 😂 EDIT: stay MAD
She's not a victim. She profited off the same structures she's complaining about.
@@RoseGoldPDXand if I recall she doubled down on the white/men jokes hard and helped exclude certain demographics from her audience, instead of naturally attracting those who would enjoy her content.
You sound like she was forced to do as a slave
Uh, no. She’s definitely not some sort of victim in this. Self awareness is important and she could have just said no. She could have realized that her style was more suited for skits and kids and also, she was making so much money on RUclips. She got greedy and power hungry and wanted to move up in the world as she saw it. She was doing amazing on RUclips. She’s just not funny in interviews and as a stand alone comedian. The people who are funny in that way don’t need writers. Ever watch your favorite comedians in interviews? No writing, just talking off the cuff and they’re hilarious. Those comedians may not be suited to doing great on RUclips. Like Bill Burr. He’s one of my favorites, funny on stage and as a comedian but his RUclips channel doesn’t do great. You have to know HOW you’re funny and stick with it. I don’t hate her or anything, I used to really love her skits, but she just isn’t funny in the talk show kinda way. There’s nothing wrong with that. She has plenty of talent, but it doesn’t translate to that type of comedy. No amount of writers could’ve fixed that. You need great timing, charisma, and other intangibles to be funny in the way she was trying to be.
I don't remember a time she was funny 😅
that’s not an excuse, if Smosh could write funny videos back when it was just the 2 of them then her “FUNNY” writers could also work with what they have as well, she says they were really funny so how are they writing crap jokes?
Alr yapster
@@r1r1_1.he’s not really yapping tho
@@zenthous9568 well yeah but some people are just ignoring the fact that she doesn't even have a proper comedic background or smth
@@r1r1_1. that doesn’t really justify anything. If you don’t have a comedic background why try to make a comedic show, and anyway this comment was about the writers
@@zenthous9568 probably cause she thought the show would go alright and won't be as bad as it is rn and she probably doesn't have funny writers either idk why she said that cause if they were the jokes would've been funny too I don't think she had the proper resources for this too she just started it cause she was getting famous cause of her relatable youtube videos and thought the show can't go that wrong but here we r now
loved watching her youtube videos as a kid
She's so cringe lol. I cant see how anyone could like her jokes. It's basically a political show made with comedy instead of a comedy show that talks about politics
which proves shes not funny. kids enjoy her content.
@@tykeboy16 one person proves that? a little dramatic.
@@tykeboy16RUclips has changed, people get nostalgic. The stuff I enjoyed as a kid I still find funny now, what is the point of this comment?
@@gingerisevil02 my point is her content was never good. It was hacky and corny af. Her fans were children. She didn't deserve a late night show.
plot twist: lily was the writer 😂
Comments trying to defend her when it’s obvious she’s doing damage control by shifting blame 😂😂
Ppl saying that her writers need to give her better jokes haven't seen her yt videos from 2013-2014 (they are not as bad as her late night show but still pretty unfunny)
💀💀💀🤣
@@BananasPogoshe isnt even blaming anyone u must be sped😭 she clearly said her writers r talented be so fucking fr and what comments r u talking bout lol u just clearly hate her sm its idiotic she admitted to her jokes being unfunny yall still wanna jump her😭😭🙏
LITERALLY 😂😂most of those were hers 1000%
She’s not seriously trying to convince us that her being a shitty comedian and host wasn’t her fault?
She’s been making RUclips videos since like 2012 before she became an official comedian, and she actually used to be pretty funny. Yeah people change, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t her fault.
Maybe not ALL her fault.
yep
@@sphinxcat01to her child audience maybe
@@sphinxcat01she wasn't funny at all
Anyone else just not believe her? If she truly thought it wasn’t good she wouldn’t deliver it like you thought it was
Ummm yes she would. That is literally what you are supposed to do? Lol
it’s called signing a contract 🥴
@@jammzy2959 signing a contract doesnt mean you have to pretend what isnt good is good.
@@joelp23she is the first RUclipsr realistically to have had her own late night talk show, unfortunately that definitely doesn’t hold up in mainstream Hollywood it seems.
@@joelp23 Lmao how old are you? Ever heard of a little thing called being professional? Start working kiddo and then you will understand that there are plenty of things at work you dont agree with but you have to put on a smile and do it anyway. Its called life.
Um, that is not very relatable: I could not make a 5 minut stand up set on late night funny because only 10 people wrote for me...
Your show, your name, your choices. Still choose to do it, you bear the burden of its mark
Imagine you are someone who actually enjoyed that show, how dumb you must feel after hearing this
Don't compromise your integrity if you don't believe in it you don't have do it
"Yeah guys I totally knew it at the time"
Yeah people don't understand that writers/artists/actors/performers/etc can't do their best work if they're not being paid enough or the conditions aren't good. It's incredibly idealistic to believe that people in these types of careers can do well in any circumstances. Creativity comes from a healthy brain, and stress, fatigue, burnout, etc will kill that creativity. There has to be an external and internal environment where creativity can be nurtured and grown. You can't plant saplings in crappy soil and then give it a cup of water and expect it to flourish.
Thats the excuse for the show, but what about her own personal RUclips channel?
What about her channel? In it's prime it was one of the hugest on the RUclips platform. She was doing well with her own stuff when it was her priority years ago.
@@annamay731it was more about timing than anything. She started in 2010 when the platform was still in its infant stages and was able to capitalize on it. Good for her. But there's a reason her prime time ended around 2014.
Ohh I can't believe that she actually admitted this. I pretty much saw it on her face during her shows, that probably she wasn't enjoying what she said. 'cause I'm an OG subscriber of her, I've known her on screen and her humor.
Wow. She STILL hasn't learnt. I've seen her devolving over the years.
She first called everyone who genuinely critiqued the worst parts as "HATERS".
She went in everywhere saying every single bit is HER.
And now she won't own up. Again.
It's shocking how I used to look up to her once.
To say you had less writers is still dissing the writers...
No? She’s saying the work conditions/resources weren’t good. They’d have to do double the work if it’s half the team.
I call bs. Just like Mia Khalifa and her sob story. Turns out that when they see things aren't working in their favor and/or that nobody is on their side anymore, they try to play victim and shift the blame on to others. It's always what someone else did, and not what THEY did. There's no accountability whatsoever
my writers were extremely good but what they wrote was not funny
Not what she meant. Use your brain and listen again to what she said.
@lucky4d725 She said she knew it wasn't funny. Use your brain listen again to what she said. Her explaining why it wasn't good doesn't erase the fact that it wasn't good.
@@lucky4d725 i literally repeated what she said. she said they were GOOOOD but the content wasnt good.
@@vixygrayve but that's *not what she meant* .
@@caitthecat noone said it "erases the fact that it wasn't good". Instead of coping what I said maybe spend more attention to what was actually being said in the video.
So she blames everybody but herself? Sounds about right ✅️
Wow I really respect this. I can not believe that I don’t really see anyone funny anymore.
If you haven’t watched Drew Gooden’s video on her show situation, you should. Really good.
No but here’s the thing, if you watch her personal videos they aren’t really funny either so.
I respect her for admitting this
oh that makes me so sad for her :(
Her attempt to be like “it wasn’t my fault guys but I’m coming back to RUclips cause I need some money!”
A good comedian can ditch the scripted stuff and entertain the audience. Check out Conan
Just because 1 person can do it. Doesn't mean everyone in the profession can do it. Everyone has their own working way.
Improvising is good trait but not everyone can have it.
@bapparawal2457 true but if she can't improvise and also can't win over the writers with her own matetial....then she's not much of a comedian
Different strokes of comedy. Improv comedians could have a hard time making a script work and scripted comedians would have a hard time improvising. Its just what you specialize in
@greentaigo2552 yea and my point is apparently, she's not good at either.
@@bapparawal2457 “everyone in the profession” is the key phrase their. Yes actually, a good comedian knows how to improv and make material seem funnier and more clever than it is…….. but she’s not a comedian.
She had as many writers as the first two seasons of the Simpsons did.
I don’t hate her, but girl this is 1000% damage control
That’s not what you said before 😂
She thought that was funny 💀 she’s trying to save her career now
She was laughing to herself going "Hehehe, take THAT, white men!"
Did that same writers room write her jokes at the nba roast? This is obviously a deflection after all the criticism she has faced and it’s unfortunate she’s putting it on her writers(even though she states otherwise I do not believe her)
The problem of writing rooms is not the amount of writers in it. Its a problem of does it fit your performer? You can write the funniest Simpsons joke ever, it won't work for Jimmy Fallon but it may work for Conan. Yes talent (and i mean that in both ability as well as what performers are called) matters.
There are two head writers in a comedy writing room. The head writer, and the performer. The performer has to know AND has to recognize what works with their style. Great jokes get killed all the time. Great jokes fall flat too. But a good performer embraces the flat jokes to give us a wink and acknowledge that was painful. Conan, Colbert, Ferguson, Letterman -- they delivered turkeys and made jokes about it. Fallon on the other hand is going the opposite way, and it works for him I guess because he's still on the air.
Lilly Singh didn't lead that writing room, and so the writers wrote jokes that were for them, but not for her -- and thats a big part of comedy. Like a Robin Williams joke, you can't pull it off, yet someone wrote it so you deliver it anyway?
I forgot how beautiful she is
Not relevant
the writers have an awfully similar sense of humor as the jokes she does in her videos lol
Well , there's a red flag. "I didnt get the right setup. I wasn't given enough" , and so the apparatus is at fault , "NOT ME" . Didnt get a big enough team. Well Lily, your hosting was uncomfortable and painful to watch too, go find someone to blame for that now. She's so full of herself I swear
Imagine being a "comedian" and have to rely on writers what a hack
and then she proceeded to go off on anyone who criticized her comedy online💀
I don't know, those jokes seem pretty on par with her regular comedy and talking points.
She’s lyin
Hell yeah she is. She didn’t confront the writers AND she’s trashing the material to the producer? That’s bs lol
Must be so stressful walking on stage knowing something isn’t funny omg
Omg she could've just stopped. She did it for MONEY & FAME, yet she's the type like AOC that would show up saying Eat the Rich knowing damn we she IS the rich benefiting off capitalism like everyone else
I know 😰 that's like me and my popsicle stick jokes but worse bc I'd at least get pity laughs.
@@jclyntoledoi wanna hear those popsicle stick jokes now
@@swain-Ix1tvsame
@@jclyntoledo we're waiting👀
Thats why traditionally hosts have a writing background, a stand-up background, or an improv background. Conan was more hilarious during the writers strike, when he was doing almost everything unscripted, or loosely scripted.
Yup! Conan O Brien also wrote for the Simpsons and SNL before he had his own show, he is also great and doing improv and actually excels with this type of content. After seeing “Conan without borders” I’m convinced that traveling while interviewing people is his best type of content.
considering all this, lilly did an amazing job then for someone without all that background. she still carried a whole late night show for however long she did... everyone is humiliating her. i don't know how much of it can be called a set up for her to not succeed though. because she was a beginner and first person of her league to do this, it's like she kinda had a huge burden to carry and make work for her and it was all on her. for someone starting, they gave her something small, i don't think that's unfair but i also can't speak to it because idk sh!t about the industry and don't know what it's like. what if every host needs a bigger room from the jump in order to succeed. what if it's compulsory and determines the trajectory of success.
Yes!!
Yeah this is a lame excuse. Also when has quantity of writers ever been what makes a joke? It’s always been about quality.
@@hazel.p5maybe someone of her league (internet skit background) shouldn’t do shows where being witty really matters.
The jokes on her late night show are exactly the same jokes she uses online. Smells like bullshit to me
Wdym by online?
She prolly got writers for her youtube to
@@starlightgirl8863he means her RUclips channel
She's always been bad, still can't understand what people saw in her beyond consistency ? She was consistent and hard working but never talented comedically
She's the most unfunny comedian I ever heard
drew gooden had a great vid explaining how they failed her
Yooo you're a Greg?
@@fellowhuman7085That's the fandom name of Danny Gonzalez. Does Drew have the Greg too?
@@c.lineofficial Nah, he calls his audience "Guy," but this could be a joke because there's a very long running joke that Danny & Drew are the same person.
Yes I love his video on her
@@addiepage2214 ohhhh that's cool 😎
I LOVE her for admitting this. Used to eat up her content and couldn’t stand it when she was getting shit on. But admittedly didn’t like the content either. What a legend for being candid
I miss her vlogs ngl 😢
@@madalena4145I miss her vlogs too. It’s really kind of sad. I think she was set up to fail and it’s really to bad because I think she really tried.
The conspiracy theorist part of me was that network exec levels could easily make an example out of her to keep new talent out (play into the assumption women or minorities aren't funny), especially if it threatens the ratings or writing pool for other projects. I used to hate Lily simply because of the few clips from her show but I understand her a bit more now.
Why did she attack those who criticized the show for being unfunny instead of being candid?
probably because she was trying to keep her show alive even if she didn't like it bc it was a stable income for her and the whole crew. also probably bc the issues were ones she was aware of and couldn't fix due to resources/execs. she was pissed because they were right and she knew it but couldn't do anything. that's my guess.@@bq2833
Ain't no way - this is damage control 100%.
Yeah, I mean, if the stuff isn’t funny…write funnier stuff. Or lower your salary in order to hire more writers.
There’s a saying in golf: “Play better golf.”
It’s amazing how many problems it solves.
or maybe she's just being honest
@@TPRM1it's amazing how clearly you don't understand tv production pipelines
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@@ltbqand you do? Yea your understanding is radiating through the chat 🤡🤡🤡
"My writers were so funny but it wasn't funny"
That makes 0 sense
Exactly, her team of writers were trash
comedy usually takes a really long time to write, plus it goes under review from loads of different ppl, if you’ve got half the ppl and half the time, material just ain’t got time to be refined
@@leeartedwardsrefined is different from not ever funny at all
@@justsomename-ct1mb well yh, but think about a funny situation you were in, something that you still laugh about today. have you ever tried telling someone a funny story but it doesn’t sound funny when you recount it and they don’t get it? chances are that story is funny, you just haven’t told it right, good comedy writers refine and test and refine again until they got everybody laughing. it’s the same with all jokes, they take work.
problem is, if you and the idk like 3 other ppl are given a couple days to write a whole comedy set, you might put shit in that’s only kinda funny or hasn’t been written properly to be the funniest it can be, then if you don’t have the time to work on it, it’s gonna come out pretty bad
now you can find lily singh not funny, that’s alright, comedy is the most subjective art form, but do remember it’s an art that takes a lot of time and work
@@leeartedwards again. There’s a difference between kind of funny and not funny at all. What she was describing sounds bad, terrible in fact. But that’s a quality issue not a quantity. It only takes ONE funny person to write ONE funny joke. So if she had a room full of supposedly funny writers how come there wasn’t a single funny joke. Consistently.
And as for that example, that’s different from writing. One is and the other is preparing something funny with a prompt, both are extremely easy IF your funny. Actually funny. I think a lot of the issue comes from that word being thrown around too much.
I could understand if most of the jokes were bad. Or if some of them fell flat. Or if it felt rushed or whatever. But all of that is different than having a bunch of people (no matter how many) turn in jokes that are ALL terrible. It’s impossible to have multiple “writers” together (no matter how many more people they may need ideally” and not come out with a single, just one, funny thing.
Just so people know in the vid she says that her writers room was half the size and due to a lower budget, while other shows were filming one episode a day they had to do 3 within the span of 96(or something) leading everyone to be VERY burnt out.
96 hours? That’s not even once a day
@@spelcheak **they had to film three a day for a span of 96 days**
@@juphil1645 I don't recall her show having 300 episodes.....
@@KS-xk2so look I’m just saying what she said. Or at least what I think she said it’s been a couple days since I watched the video. If you’d like you can watch it yourself.
@@KS-xk2soyou have weekends. Plus, not all of the episodes were released. There was a RUclipsr who went to the live shows and she said that she went to 3 shows and none of them had aired. She wanted to compare the live event with the edited one to critique on it and according to her, they did not air.
Were they the ones who included the "bisexual woman of color" comment every.single.time?
deadass probably
im a POC and i couldnt sit through a single episode. the entire show from start to finish is
WHITE MEN = BAD
IM RICH, YOU'RE POOR LMAO
she had every opportunity to change it at any time it was her fkn show. she just couldnt handle the backlash she didnt plan on getting. because what humour is easier in 2023 than slandering the entire white race? be honest
When you have less writers, you have to re-use lines to save time.
@@DanielOrteez
How many writers does it take to polish a turd?
@@Xbalanque84sounds like they were crunched, which leads to many turds getting polished
If you say so, Lilly! You were a director and executive producer on the show. Take some credit.
She's talking about the writing. She didn't contribute to that part.
I don’t think directors have a say in writing, they do have a say in what they say (as she pointed out) but all movie directors and producers have screen writers
Neither of those positions make writing decisions.
@@PotinthepocketShe's a narcissist & is blaming others for her failures. She is so obsessed with herself ugh
And since she was director, shouldn't she have had SOME influence over the writing? She's not helpless. Her improv, what little there was of it, was pretty bad too
Shrinking writers rooms are why we strike! ✊
we?
@@RJIS people who work in film and tv
@@surreal-wandererit seems it doesn't need more, but better writers. You guys put out so much garbage, it's just sad.
The solution is easy. Put out less stuff and and hire talented people for it and the rest go, since it's obviously not their thing.
But no we're not doing that. People fail and get promoted for it. Get jobs to fill a quota and not because they're actually qualified to do it good.
So yeah, go strike. It won't improve quality. It's just for untalented people, that shouldn't work there in the first place, to keep their job and put out more shit into the world. That is the reality of things.
@@spane81alright slow your roll arthur fleck, no need to post your whole manifesto on a public forum like this
@@mailtears oh no, were these few words allready too much for you to handle? You poor soul. I know reading is hard. Here have a few more.
Or did you just don't like what i had to say?
Either way it doesn't matter. We still get garbage movies from talentless writers. Hollywoods relevance dwindles as people have cought on.
But the way she handled that criticism was horrible...and she said the critics were virgins, like that's somehow an insult? She was also virgin for a long time? Hypocrisy.
Did she make a video or something declaring that she isn’t a virgin anymore? I honestly wouldn’t put that past her.
@@katjen2213Doesn't matter, also the comment said WAS one
I admire her for admitting this, but she kept saying that people criticizing the writing of her show were haters and would talk about how successful she was compared to everyone talking about her show.
It’s still a pretty big deal. Plus, people can learn and grow. She def had an ego back then and I stopped watching her completely, but a lot of people were hating on her back then for the stupid things too.
I personally think she wasn’t allowed to say any of this, because she probably had a contact with the network, so she wasn’t allowed to say that what she was saying wasn’t funny, and she also was like probably embarrassed and just wanted to protect herself because she was upset that she had to say thisbstuff and pretend that it was funny when she didn’t think it was funny
Did you expect her to bury her own product while it was airing
For real. Seems a lot of commenters conveniently forgot this detail.
@@connor1586 She could have said... nothing.
Lilly, they are LITERALLY the same exact "jokes" youve always said, and still do.....Like LITERALLY.
Did those writers also write your personal Ted Talk?
shhhh don't make logical observations. Her fans are here to praise how humble she is for admitting this.
shhhh don't make logical observations. Her fans are here to praise how humble she is for admitting this.
@@tykeboy16😂
@@tykeboy16
Some people will simp for anything, apparently. I wonder how many are bots?
@@tykeboy16😂
Stop stop stop. I worked for a super successful LATE NIGHT talk show and she absolutely chooses her jokes every day, and to pander, “not blaming the writers”? I saw her writers group, the show I worked for had the same size room. The writers pour over media every day looking for content, and they’re constantly searching for material, they make a ton of recommendations in the morning and she goes through and picks and chooses what she wants. Then they polish and she contributes. I call BS
Why doesn’t this have more likes?!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
cause they could clearly be making shit up lmao@@oliviah.5846
Oop- 👀
How would you know what her shows dynamic is like?
you're talking about one episode per day, but she recorded three
Lack of accountability, got it.
Working conditions affect your output
You should hold yourself accountable for not using your brain
@@WaffleSaladlmao, you think Lilly is the only person who has ever been under any kind of pressure in Hollywood. Craig Ferguson had 4 writers compared to 7 for Lilly, yet he was funny and insightful every day.
Right like she could just write her own jokes 😂
@@aolson1111 they had to do 3x the work of the other late night shows with a smaller crew. They shot three episodes a day instead of other comedians that do one a day. Plus she had to film them all in advance (that means no jokes about current news/topics bc they would no longer be relevant and funny)
What a lot of people forget is, her delivery wasn't helping either. The thing is, if you gave Kristen Wiig, Sarah Paulson, Jessica Kirson or Kate Mckinnon a show, they would've become the next THING. Lilly was never that funny to begin with, and there's nothing wrong with that, we all suck at something. All it takes is time and practice, but she doesn't think she needs it, she's a know-it-all
That's what gets me. There are lots of women who could have done a good job, why did they hire her?
Good thing she explained the situation even though at the moment she was calling the criticism as "virgin haters" -_-
I think the point of this is that she was wrong
Do you have something against virgins? Do you think they are lesser than you?
@@Jays_dead_cat Not at all, Lily however, said it with the intention of insulting
@@valerymerenguetta8874 I completely misread your comment. Lol. My bad
@@Jays_dead_cat no worries
This honest statement is at odds with your Ted talk
Well in both all she’s saying is “ I’m the victim feel bad for me none of my shitty decisions are my fault” so kinda the same
Maybe the writing team for the TED talk was also too small.
@@lexluthor4597funny part, as comedy has repeatedly shown: take accountability for the crappy project and people will laugh WITH YOU at the past.
😂😂😂
@@MrColdwilliamexcept the crappy project is THEIRS to take accountability for - that’s not the same scripted tv. Idk where people get this magnifying glass to see victimhood charade on other people at any place where they are processing justification.
This is cope.
Dave Chapelle has one writer for jokes whenever he steps on stage. Him. He is him. If you're a comedian and you're saying you're not funny because your writing team is smaller than other non-funny people, then it's safe to say you're not a comedian
So happy seeing Anthony featured on his own channel 😊
What do you mean
So nice of Anthony to feature smaller creators like AnthonyPadilla on his channel... ❤
@@zhubwatLMAO
"Blame everyone but yourself"
When she was confronted about the show being bad in the past, I remember her getting very defensive and claiming people didn’t like it because they’re discriminating against her race, sexuality, and gender. She said some pretty nasty things about people critiquing her. Why is she now willing to admit she knew it was bad? Is she going to apologize for her previous comments?
because she was not mentally well. We're talking about a human here not a robot.
@@PregnantWAwkwardness Very good excuse, works for everything 😂
@@Pidatha It does but if people actually watched the video and listened to her explain the process and her own views leading up to some of the responses you would understand that truly was the case. She had been set up to fail. And when she realized her ship was sinking, she still had to step out wearing a big smile. There was no way she could have been able to walk away not feeling some type of way about a failed show.
Add on some critical and rude comments and of course she would snap.
Cause even though the show may have flopped that was a test of a mettle for her, and some could argue she passed(mettle-wise).
But she didn't pass the aftermath, she couldn’t handle the comments which shitted on her unseen efforts, and resolve, let's not forget she was kinda set up to fail. Of course it felt personal. Of course she personally felt attacked.
If anything this is another reason why when you get to a certain level you should have a team that keeps you off the internet because when you start a downward spiral there's no taking it back.
Lilly acknowledged that some channels critiquing her were spot on BUT there were some who were straight up rude and not at all understanding. So why would they deserve an apology?
You can't hold Lilly to one standard and then not hold the rude ass Channels to the same standard. Let's not pretend people weren't rude af to her and that channels dragging her didn't exist.
oh shut up @@PregnantWAwkwardness
Aren’t you a human? Defending something you invested so much time blood sweat and tears should not be a foreign concept if you’ve ever lived or gone outside
You know...sometimes it's not the joke...it's the delivery. 😅
Are you saying the jokes were funny or just commenting this out of bad faith?
Or the person
Dude but she has never been funny if her own accord either
Going to call bulshit on that. I remember a few years ago when her talk show came out and people were talking about how bad it was, obviously there were people just being Trolls but there was a lot of people giving constructive criticism and all she ever did was talk about how successful she was and how funny she was. What I think happened was that she went from making content for children that was relatively easy to make, to making content for adults which proved to be out of her field of depth.
She wasn't the one writing her show and on contracts you have to promote your show and you can't talk shit about it, sometimes ever if you sign an NDA. Also how embarrassing to have to admit you know your show you dreamed of was shit.
TYYYY looking for this, she is back tracking LMAO
@@lexgrey8103 Honest people don’t put themselves in situations where they’re forced to be dishonest.
Was she supposed to talk negatively about a project she’s the face of? That’s not a good look either.
I do think she should’ve ignored the hate or be more chill about it. It would’ve made her look a little more confident
@@gracekang2161 i agree with ur sentiment but she’s blaming everyone around her instead, so honestly the show STILL looks bad but now it’s even more off putting since she’s just separating herself from them even tho they were supposed to symbolize a team. it’s embarrassing to throw them under the bus
All it should take is one good writer to deliver something that isn’t completely awful. This is nonsense
You saw that with the earlier writers' strike. Some shows continued to be funny without writers and some weren't (although the Daily Show relied heavily on Brit John Oliver and Canadians Samantha Bee and Jason Jones).
That’s literally what i just said. It should only take ONE funny person to make at least ONE funny joke. Let alone if everybody isn’t here was “funny”. Everybody throws that word around nowadays, everybody thinks they’re funny. But in reality people are just easy to entertain and the skill ceiling is lower if you’re an follower and an idiot. It makes being actually funny both more rewarding, and more annoying perceptively. 🤦🏽♂️
Sounds like damage control to me. It's not just her show that was unfunny. She did it for a paycheck because she wasn't bothered about making RUclips content at the time. Pitching a late night comedy show for a zoomer audience when the format was dieing for 5 years prior was just a horrible business decision by management anyway
she mentioned in the full video, if you watch it, that the contract they had was for 96 episodes in 3 months. she went into it fully intending to make youtube videos at the same time, but soon realised that wasn't possible. Also, of course she did it for the paycheck. Most of us work for a paycheck. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't even bother getting out of bed most days
But she already had a paycheck for the work she was doing and a decent paycheck at that. However, she let greed win and chased a bigger paycheck for what she deemed as less work, and it has rightfully ruined her reputation, which granted not hard but still.
No matter how you slice it she was well off and didn't need more money yet she chased it anyway.
@@Not_An_EV " as less work"? 96 episodes in 3 months was gonna be less work? i really suggest you watch the full episode. she seems like a hardworking person and it seemed more about the challenge of doing something new. it's really worthy of respect. also, i don't think she should regret it because it failed, as she herself put it in the full video, it accomplished other things. also, there's nothing wrong with chasing more money. again, we all do it. quitting a job to go to a better paying one is incredibly common, and it's called career growth.
it was a good opportunity n tbh i don’t think her reputations been ruined. the jokes there were just cringier versions of what she was already doing on youtube, she was just given a different platform. though i can understand your point about greed (and somewhat agree with it, there’s an inherent greediness to these sorts of things)i think she was also trying to cement herself into a different industry. multiple things can exist at once !!
Exactly. She got the bag. She got the “fame” (just not the way she wanted), she couldn’t lead the show in a good direction so didn’t get more resources. All while she got paid the most out of anyone on the show and walked away with the bank. Now she gets to sit here and take zero responsibility and claim she herself is a victim. Give me a break. If that’s a victim, sign me up.
She is just not funny.... that's just it
None of the other late night shows are funny either, it’s not a question of resources, it’s a question of being funny
Seth Meyers is hilarious. Same goes for Samantha B.
Lilly is also just not funny in general. Her jokes are about the same thing, over and over again
Conan O Brien is probably the funniest out of all of them actual writer there
@@Andyatl2002 exactly, that’s why Conan is at least somewhat funny. He’s an actual comedic writer.
lmao i love the idea that she thinks her show would have been successful if she had twice as many writers
I thought that too. . .Saying there weren't as many writers and THAT was the problem--not even that the writers were bad is such an empty excuse.
For real. How many writers does it take to polish a turd?
So if the writers are good then it's just lily
Hold on so the writers are funny but since there were not a lot of them, it’s not funny? I don’t get it. I mean the more the merrier and more people can check other people ideas and work but how can they be funny but the idea not be funny?
Ok. Less people means less resources, I get that. But those fewer people can still be funny and good at what they do, no? Less people would explain inconsistency in quality to fill out the airtime, but not always missing the mark. If you or your people are good at their format it has to hit sometimes, right? To me, the honest impression is that: 1. RUclips Humor does not really translate on TV, which is fine. 2. The established format of the rigid Night Talk Show was just not a good fit for her or any female RUclipsr, as pointed out by people like Brittany Broski. 3. People trying to write for you and dilute your appeal in the process, by just trying to imitate something you might say, is always bad. Honestly it is a tale as old as time by now, as to why a lot of RUclipsrs ditched trying to do TV and stuff: They dont want YOU as a person, they want your AVATAR to bring in a new audience, but you are forced to still project their same old content/format. Which is a recipe for disaster, because RUclips Personalities get famous FOR their personality, it is in the name. If they limit your selfexpression which got you so far in the first place you will tank, because your fans recognize it is not really you and the rest of the audience does not know what to make of you.
If 1 person has to do the work of 2 people, it's always gonna be worse. Everything has to be less good, in order for it to all be done at the end of the day.
@@chiedzawith2ds While I somewhat agree, imo there is more to it. The disconnect between RUclipsrs and TV people, be it writers, hosts etc. Something is not clicking, mainly the need for structure and strict monitoring that takes away what makes a RUclipsr special in the first place. TV shows have a different, broader audience - so the nisché that got you famous on RUclips is not sufficient enough to create mass-appealing content. And thats where writers start to think "Well, what COULD a/this RUclipsr say, but also fit our show?" and it is downhill from there. You cant make the RUclipsr a blank slate Avatar for the writers' talent to shine through, cuz why cast a RUclipsr in the first place then? But you also cant make the RUclipsr do all the work by themselves, because of the tight time schedule. So the in between solution always comes off as hollow and not genuine. So to me, them not being able to make her funny, is more about the format and disconnect, than people - otherwise something would have been good or promising...although understaffing obviously did not help
The producers half-assed the show. The writers were underpaid and overworked. Lily was very new to the talk show business. It's a miracle that the show went on as long as it did. It's true you can be funny with few people in the writing room, but what if those few people were under so much stress like she tells in the video? You cannot be comedic when you're stressed.
How can someone be funnt on an insane deadline?
This is a short clip. Full context is they had to write a lot of material in a short time which is why the quality degraded.
whole lotta copeium here. Lilly just is not a funny person to begin with.
Can someone explain to me how having a smaller room makes talented writers become talentless?
they have to shoot 3 episodes a day, everyday. Which leads to burning out and tired. There's a full interview of her if you wanna understand it more
How is that hard to understand? You can be a very talented artist, but when you have to pump out three paintings everyday, they’re bound to suck eventually
Take Colbert's show. He has writers on staff that get maybe one joke in per show on average, meaning that writer's stuff was good enough to get him in the door, but, for the first year or so, gets minimal screen time. These freshman writers are good, but are barely used more than senior writers to bounce their jokes off of for Colbert to use. They get seasoned or sacked over time.
You have half the writers? You gotta hope they're all senior quality with very few gaps.
@@books2438have you ever heard her show it sounds like she doesn’t even have writers tbh. For something to drop in quality it has to have quality to begin with
@@aidanh7527don't even bother. I'm now convinced that this "books" account is either a direct relative or Lily's burner account.
Sounds like bs to be honest
Look at her trying to flip the script after being roasted 😂
It really is sad that she's trying to find excuses for HER show that ended up being super bad lol. Poor Lily
Not the comments not understanding what shes distinctly understanding. Doesnt matter if you didnt like her original content either. The show wasnt the same as when she was writing her own stuff either.😊
Did this sound good in your head before you typed it out? If so, it should've stayed there.
Ik this isn’t true cause she was making content exactly like her show on her RUclips you can get away with being unfunny on RUclips not on television
She's just making excuses and saying she knows that it was bad now to try and help her public image.
Because it wasn't even the quality of the jokes that was the main problem; it was the whole condescending, divisive *style* of comedy that she's not going to convince me that she herself didn't choose to do.
Oh she absolutely thought it would be a hit with other queer poc
She's coming back on RUclips and im so glad! Miss her skits with Manjeet 😂
Im indian, i used to love lilly. What had happened to her? Playing victim bcz u realize ur no longer funny and u failed. It is such a poor show on her part that she is subtly blaming the production or the writers... so so poor. If ur the host, u take charge. Thats how it works. Also wokeism was never funny. So thats the moral of the lesson.
Maybe write your own jokes then?
People should go watch the first 8 minutes of the full video. This clip comes up along with context that’s edited out of the short. She did not just have half the writers. She had half the writers, pumping out THREE episodes a day. Other late night shows record one per weekday, and they do it day of. Her schedule was to pre record all 90 episodes back to back, which also implies she can’t be commenting on daily happenings the way late night shows usually do.
The only reason for all this was to accommodate her own already packed schedule. Her rep negotiated this pace, hoping Lilly could just show up & perform instead of WORKING on her own show at all. She should have been honest about not having time when NBC approached but it’s all about ego. The money & opportunity was too good to pass up I guess…
Pre recording a season's worth of late-night content for a talk show makes no sense.
So now it’s the writers fault that your show flopped? No, you just wasn’t funny. She’s expecting a kimmel or fallon size team.
Doesn’t explain why her comedic timing is 👎very poor 😢
So why is her other content the same. her other jokes on her shorts and youtube are identical because she jokes about the same stuff but its still not funny. like it would make sense if her standup was completely different topics, but they aint.
Ah yes its everyone elses fault of course
This is her playing catch up she’s making excuses and idc
Absolutely. You can tell because she’s blaming multiple reasons why SHE couldn’t carry a show she asked for 😂
Also, you fine af 🫶🏼😂
I just have one question, why did u think studying yourself with cherries was a good idea?
ok and ur acting like she committed such a crims
You didn’t watch the full interview you watched one clip in the interview she also admits she didn’t know what she was doing and part of the blame lands on her
YES YES its not my fault , its not the writers fault = 0 sense, oh wait its the rooms fault LOL WTF
So write something funny yourself if you’re a comedian. Just one thing to prove you’re funny.
So happy seeing Lilly featured on Anthony's channel 😊
Why
@@ElariaFlori why not?
@@RaeezTheDeadPoet of all the people in the world, Lilly (even on RUclips) hasn’t been nearly one of the funniest or most interesting. I genuinely can’t think of a single question I’d care to know. To each their own but she’s just kinda bland online
@@ElariaFloriyes. And this honestly sounds like her trying to cope with her failed show lmao wtf
@@_sch_eme_ mhm. As a diversity dyke I think I have the right to say that someone being part of a minority doesn’t inherently make someone funny, nor does the existence of it automatically make funny jokes. Most of her jokes were about her race, which were they creative could have resulted in a funny niche. There are a bunch of amazingly talented poc comedians, like Gabriel Iglesias, Vishnu Vaka (it might be Vish Nuvaka, I’m sorry I’m horrible with names), and Learnmore Jonasi. There are so many more but these are definitely my favourites. Compared to Lilly, they write their own stuff, have good delivery, and genuinely are interesting. I get it, being underfunded sucks, but she didn’t ever deserve a talk show in the first place because she wasn’t funny under her own schedule on RUclips. I think diversity is much needed in Hollywood and on talk shows, although they are a dying medium so perhaps in whatever sparks up to replace it. Regardless, the world does not need Lilly Singh in anything, and I don’t think anyone older than 12 would really care to see her go.
This just sounds like an excuse. 1 talented writer can make that show, a whole team of them failed. They were not funny, its okay to accept defeat and failure. Being half the size makes no difference at all.
Right, that’s where she lost me. She said they were so funny and talented. But then regardless of the size of her team. Her stuff still should have been funny.
This segment was also written for her.
Sounds like excuses. You dont need a lot to come up with half decent jokes if youre actually funny.