Comparing the "Think of Me" Cadenza ~ Part 1

Comparing the "Think of Me" Cadenza ~ Part 1

[@amymiller3881]

When people compare everyone to Sierra but Rebecca Caine is the true goddess all the way

[@AssumesAllRisks]

OMG yes!!

[@israfelscarletraven6984]

Amy Miller I don't know, Lisa Vroman definitely brings some healthy competition.

[@Kitanana1]

And Dale Kristien! Rebecca Caine, Dale Kristien and Lisa Vroman are vocally the greatest Christines ever! Their voices are so crystalline and rich, with a slightly darker, gothic tone. Nowadays many Christines tend to sound very candy-like.
While Sierra is magnificent when it comes to singing and probably my favourite vocal after the Holy Trinity, the thing that makes her so incredible is her unbeatable acting.

[@chickletsushi2761]

THIS.

[@israfelscarletraven6984]

@Robert Lee, Countertenor That's very interesting to hear!

[@ChiaraMarilera]

I'm not a *huge* Rebecca Caine fan. I mean, she's awesome, but I'm not obsessed with her. But her cadenza is outstanding!

[@phangirl1986]

1) The West End's cadenza is so much better than Broadway's
2) Sandra Joseph sounded like a police siren, lol
3) Wow, Rebecca Caine! Beautiful, with an absolutely gorgeous tone!

[@JasRichlovesLA]

For me, the character of Christine in this aria is suppose to show off her skills and power to prove that she is well-suited to become a stunning and most sought after opera singer and not a chorus girl. Yes, Erik was in love with her but he also saw potential in her voice. He knew what this voice was capable of doing. Also note that the aria and cadenza is suppose to rival that of the diva Carlotta. I like the portrayal in the movie when Carlotta hears the success of Christine. The reason why they picked Miss Rossum for the part was to reflect the purity and innocence in her voice to her character. Though her rendition is sweet and charming, it is not enough to rival Carlotta. People came to the opera to be wowed by dazzling craftsmanship, grand spectacle and the lavish music of French Grand Opera. Why do you think people are on their feet when a tenor sings nine high C's or a soprano displays rapid fire of coloratura and sings a staccato high F with ease? The reason is because it is thrilling which is why I stick closely to Rebecca Caine and Lisa Vroman.
Vroman gives us the standard which goes up to a soprano high C (C6...the other version such as the movie and original London cast goes to a Bflat 5). Here, she displays control and maintains a steady flow of energy that pours into the elegance and beauty in her voice. She gives a little time to F and G but those are not the most important notes. As the audience, you have a sense that she is coming to her greatest and highest note of the evening which she displays beautifully and holds it for a good amount of time. For those of you who are even more interested, check out Vroman singing the last couple of notes in the "title song" with Colm Wilkinson. Thrilling!
Rebecca Caine's rendition or the West End cadenza has been my absolute favorite because it has a note that no one in the audience expects. On the first run, Caine displays evenness in her voice which easily goes up to a high D above high C (D6 above C6). I love the energy in this cadenza. Now many people will prefer the other cadenza but this one gives the character a little more boldness, I think. It is almost as if she is saying to Carlotta "I dare you." The audience's ears perk up as she graceful comes back half way down the scale still showing off her flexibility. She holds the high C for a while but Vroman beats her out by just about a half to one second more. Another reason I like these two voices is because there is more body and presence in the voice thus tying back my point about Christine showing she is well-suited to be a stunning and most sought after opera singer. If I were a regular opera goer during this time period, I would prefer to hear these voices.

[@EnzFab73]

You picked my 2 favorite Christine's ever.. and I agree with you. I saw Rebecca Caine in Toronto 5 times. Her voice was sublime... She actually sounded better live because when she hit the high note at the end of her scale.. (not the sustained high C but the top high D) at times it almost sounded like she switched to her whistle register and would sustain it longer than on the recording. She didn't do this all the time but the couple of times she did it made me melt and sent some serious shivers down my spine. To date my father, who saw the show with me with Caine as Christine back in 1991 *yikes* always refers to her voice as "the voice of a Goddess".
What I liked about her and Vromen is that they both have darker, richer tones than the usual Christine. I do not know what type of soprano Vroman is, but Caine is a Lyric soprano which changed drastically from her earlier years as Christine in London to her more operatic powerhouse vocals of her Toronto run (she took a hiatus from Phantom later in her run to sing the title character of the Canadian Opera Company's "Lulu" and she was fantastic).
A lot of people have stated the Christine needs to "sound young" but I do not agree with this. Christine needed to have a voice that not only competed against a rival Operatic Diva like La Carlotta but would also have those in the audience listening in awe (think Callas). I have seen this show 18 times and Caine remains the best I have ever seen.
In regards to Rossum, I liked her in the movie and thought at times, her voice sounded beautiful but I can accept Rossum as de-crowning Carlotta because.. well, film is a different medium and suspension of disbelief comes into play here.

[@JasRichlovesLA]

E Fabian I thought I was the only one who thought this way. Everything of what you said is true. I think Lisa is a Lyric Soprano but I could be wrong. I have only seen the show 3 times (once on Broadway with John Cudia as the Phantom and twice in Ft. Lauderdale with Gary Mauver and Tim Martin Gleason as the Phantom). I have seen the 25th anniversary production with Sierra Boggess and Ramin Kaminloo (sp?). I have my strong opinions about that particular production but the show has still remained dear to me.

[@EnzFab73]

I liked the 25th anniversary performance but I do think it could have been better. For instance, the overture that did not include a rising chandelier was a big let down for me. And Christine, Sierra Boggess, although good at times, didn't give me the wow factor of ... Caine :-) for instance. She was good though. I do not want to get into too much details of my views of Ramin because currently everyone loves him and I like his voice.. I recently saw him in Les Miserables here in Toronto and he was great.. but having seen Colm Wilkinson in Toronto (along with Caine) 20 + years ago ... they set an impossibly high standard that no one has been able to achieve for me yet and that includes Ramin. But I love the show and it is one of my faves.

[@marlijnkrop]

Any Christine with the London cadenza has my heart

[@AssumesAllRisks]

Rebecca Caine version...agh...I just keep coming back to it. Definitely a favorite!

[@Kate1620]

LISA VROMAN - HANDS DOWN best Christine in my mind. Most of the others here can....forget it - though I have always liked Rebecca and she did sound beautiful here too :) Dale Kristien - had never heard her before, beautifully phrased and controlled with a gorgeous strong top - very nice also.

[@kaciebroadfield262]

Lisa Vroman is definitely my favorite, had an amazing masterclass with her last week!

[@Silver54ful]

You met "the" Lisa Vroman?!
That is awesome! How was it meeting her? :)

[@kaciebroadfield262]

She's the coolest! It was such an honor singing for her.

[@Silver54ful]

An incredible vocalist/actress. Now to hear confirmation of her being a heart of gold. I think my heart is going to burst.
You are so very lucky!
I'm sure it was one heck of a brilliant and insightful masterclass. I can only imagine how magnificent it was.

[@Silver54ful]

Emmy Rossum did in fact have it lowered. I don't know about the other actresses who were dubbed for the film. Andrew had to alter her cadenza since the orginal was too much of a strain for her.

[@alematosmusic7498]

Silver54ful Emmy sings the right last note and the last transition perfectly (Of Me) but it's true the rest of the cadenza was lowered. I think is because she didn't have a proper vocal training like the actresses who played it on stage. But we have to admit that for the movie and also if we take in mind she was only 18, it was a magnificent work.

[@Silver54ful]

@@alematosmusic7498 No argument there. ;)

[@dioro93257]

Sarah Brightman, Sierra Boggess, Dale Kristien, Anna Maria Kaufmann, Lisa Vroman, Rebecca Caine, Hye-Kyung Lee, and Rachel Barrell are my favorites!

[@Thepixiebella]

I'm sorry... what was Sandra's? Does this mean I have a chance on Broadway for Christine??! Lol
Favorites -
Celia Graham- 00:39
[ not like love but I love the sliding with her voice!!! ]
Sierra Boggess- 1:10
Rebecca Caine- 1:35
Rachel Barrell- 6:12 [ I don't care what people say, absolutely love her! ]
Thought I was done, but...
Claire Moore- 7:32 absolutely captured my voice, I wasn't even paying attention anymore and her voice filled the speaker and I literally felt like she had the captivating voice of Christine Daee!

[@Caleb.flute96]

Team Sierra, but Rebecca Caine's sounded the most professional

[@alexwilkinson915]

I'm sorry, but Sandra Joseph sounded TERRIBLY Flat. I don't know if the reverberation affected it, or not; but it was bad...

[@PrincessDreamActress]

Lisa Vroman, Sierra Boggess, Rebecca Caine, Beth Southard, Hye-Kyung Lee, Sarah Brightman, Rachel Barrell (amazing with John Owen Jones), Emmy Rossum, and Claire Moore so far are my faves.

[@tolkienbliss]

I'm absolutely in love with Rebecca Caine's voice :)

[@EnzFab73]

Sandra Joseph was truly flat unfortunately, some were off too, U can tell they were not too comfortable up in their higher registers but even the greatest singers have off-nights. The only Christine I have heard that was consistently flat was Rebecca Pitcher, NOT to be confused with the GLORIOUS Rebecca Caine who was phenomenal, her cadenza always went up to a high C & was wonderful live. She was one of the few Christine's I have seen that gave me goose pimples on top of my goose pimples.

[@simplystreeptacular]

As always, Rebecca Caine is flawless. Anything else is like comparing glass to diamonds.

[@import26]

What on earth Sandra Joseph, OFF KEY!

[@spacewarriorgaming840]

import26 very!

[@princesspearly5619]

it's so off key it's hard to listen to

[@Flickymcbean825]

import26 I agree. As amazing as her ability is she is off-key in nearly every clip of her I’ve heard.

[@whatdoyousuppose]

Lisa Vroman, Rebecca Caine, Irasema Terrazas (besides the sharper C6, must've been a bit off that night), Anna Maria Kaufmann, Dale Kristien, and Claire Moore are my favorites from here! I really love a Christine with a warmer operatic sound and flexibility in the runs, personal preference!

[@emilylatte6626]

I love the west end cadenza holy jesus

[@DescendingAngel46]

Ooooh tough choice... I agree with those that have said that the extreme operatic cadenza doesn't suite Christine... basically because she's supposed to be a fresh new voice, otherwise she'd be no different to Carlotta. I think over all, I'd have to say Rachel Barrell :)

[@hot01rh]

Rebecca Caine was brilliant live.the best christine i ever saw.

[@MUSICCGP]

I think all of them sound great!

[@christinedaae8725]

Emmy Rossum! ♥

[@phantimmanor5156]

Nothing beats the boldness and power of Dale Kristien. But I'm a big Sierra fan too.

[@xXHorsesPhanXx]

I know that the high note at the end of the cadenza is a High C, but is Sarah Brightman's lower? I've heard it was only a Bb. And does the same go for Emmy Rossum and the other movie dubs? Because they sound lower too.

[@whjk11b80]

Rebecca Caine, Dale Kristien, Andrea Maho

[@Schoolgirl325]

The West End cadenza is beautiful, but when I sang this song for a recital my teacher said to do the Sarah Brightman cadenza a little bit slower with the staccato.

[@ennaphillips8619]

Disliked Sandra Joseph's and Irasema Terrazas' versions - vibrato was too wide, making it seem pitchy. Also somehow I felt like Andrea Maho was...cheating a bit, for lack of a better word. Hers was so slow and robotic that it was just like flat singing, not operatic in the least. And where was Gina Beck? She might've been in there but I missed her while reading comments...but anyway, she's my favorite Christine. I also lovelovelove x3 Sierra but I didn't feel she stood out in this video.

[@quangminhtran7612]

Sierra Boggess and Sarah Brightman ❤❤❤❤❤

[@PrismsofGlass]

I think the national tour came back to LA, though it wasn't a sit-down production, which is probably how the confusion arose. And Dale's eight shows a week are legendary, but I think she must have missed a few, because my parents saw the show in LA and they got an understudy. (Forgot her name, though... shame.)

[@UpTwingle]

Dale Kristien

[@Flickymcbean825]

1. Rachel Barrell
2. Claire Moore
3. Sarah Brightman
Last. Emmy Rossum.

[@hbomb2704]

Some talented ladies!!

[@gabiiferac]

Irasema

[@nickjonasgrl100]

Rachel Barrell, Sierra Boggess and Claire Moore

[@Th3On3Y0uW4nt]

Okay I am sorry but Celia's in my opinion.....sounded kinda awful.... :/

[@keristly]

Sierra no doubt!

[@KatieT97]

How did you get a recording of Claire Moore?! 😱😱

[@BruschettaGirl]

Deborah Dutcher and Claire Moore would have to be my favorites. What voices!

[@LifyalSahara]

Personally, Far Far..... EMMY ROSSUMs ' cadenza!!! It´s for me the prettiest one. Talking just about the cadenza... . I just love the version she sings, and it´s different from the rest. About the voice or vocal quality (or how ever it´s called in english) off course there are better ones ;)
But I have to say it... Irasema Terraza seems like a security alarm =P

[@ivanovichmr]

OK, Sandra Joseph was just a complete DISASTER. No wonder why the managers weren't sure of her! LOL

[@superbeesuperbee7696]

rebecca hands down

[@LaisaLeroy]

Sierra Boggess, Rebecca Caine, Sarah Brightman, Rachel Barrell, Emmy Rossum, Claire Moore alll are amazing here!

[@Riccardo89]

Seriously people, Emmy Rossum sucks compared to the others. She gets credit just because she was in the film. It was a miscast since she was too young to play this role

[@ChristineDaaePhan07]

RiCCa RDo This though. She was so under qualified for that role. But she was in the children’s choir at the Met 😆

[@Riccardo89]

@@ChristineDaaePhan07 I don't get why the gave her the role. She was very very young, her voice wasn't suitable for opera at that moment, she wasn't very beautiful and she acted fine but not great. Come on

[@ChristineDaaePhan07]

I’ll never understand it either. I wish Anne Hathaway could have played the part, and she almost did, but she did Princess Diaries 2 instead. So we got stuck with Emmy.

[@jashael]

This is very entertaining.

[@rungirlmgg]

Sarah Brightman is my definate favorite! But Sierra Boggess and Rebecca Caine are both amazing. And I never liked Dale Kristien much, but she sounds magical here!

[@genevievebullio5517]

Emmy! Best Christine

[@KayleighYoung0]

Emmy Rossumm beats all!

[@madisonpisano4372]

They do realize that the High C is not that long the way the music written.

[@Rosseroni88]

I think the top 3 are Lisa Vroman since her voice is so strong and full, Sarah Brightman has always been a personal favorite, Rebecca Cain is great, Sierra Boggess is very sweet very full, but I don't like this version of her.

[@Rosseroni88]

Omg ten years later, my top three now are Claire Moore, Rebecca Caine, and Lisa Vroman

[@titanicfinatic]

@imRoxFarjat What do you mean Sandra Joseph? She is American, not Asian. She was the lead on Broadway for nearly 11 years.

[@KayleighYoung0]

Well she's the best in my ears.

[@miep8675]

why are some of them lowered? like to a Bb, even in the OLC recording Sarah sings a Bb. But then was it changed to C? cause I have two versions with piano where it's a Bb or it's a C

[@kennethroberts4834]

Shame you didn't have gina becks on there as that is far superior than any i have heard

[@phantomlover2594]

I didn’t know Gina was on 10 years ago?

[@KayleighYoung0]

THANK GOD for people like you!

[@knoahbody69]

Is there a simpler cadenza that might be performed by a middle school student?

[@MeepMayCry]

knoahbody69 you can use Emmy Rossum's cadenza. I feel like that's the easiest

[@Mrs99rusty99]

MarvelDCFanGal honestly Emmy's is the hardest idk why. Like it goes so low, and to make that leap is very hard for me so I prefer to mix the West End and Broadway Cadenza 😂😂

[@mimicarey2391]

4:18 rip headphone users🙏

[@lolXgirl123]

NOO WHERE IS GINA BECK

[@Mattyma1998]

Celia's voice i much better now

[@ivanovichmr]

@landl47 I toootally agree with you on Celia...

[@MUSICCGP]

But I like Sarah Brightman and Dale Kristien best! I think they sound like a fairy tale's princess.

[@brittanybroberg6746]

Can I be honest, Sandra Joseph scares me.

[@EmeraldSky33]

Why are these in different keys? Productions or actresses?

[@KayleighYoung0]

YOU must be kidding. Cause I'm not kidding. We all have our own opinions.

[@LaisaLeroy]

Is the last note a B or a C?

[@harrislilly007]

Sierra Boggess!!!!

[@Schoolgirl325]

Sarah Brightman is my favorite.

[@DPaulThib93]

and i wonder if Sierra will do the West End cadanza for the 25th anniversary

[@TheJogeHeartsBway]

To be fair and all, Sarah Brightman's is the only one shown that isn't live. Her's is the original on the first cast recording.

[@DPaulThib93]

i actually like Lisa and Sierra and Rachel(except for her last note) the best out of everyone on this video...and beth looks a bit too old to play christine

[@AbStar_xx]

if you're referring to the "of" note, it's B flat. The very last "me" note is an F

[@LaisaLeroy]

@marquardtadri Okay thank you :)

[@jaykeincp]

celia graham ftw!

[@leilanihanaike]

Sierra wins in my opinion. But it would have been even better if you had used the clip from the 25th anniversary because it was even better there.

[@ce3540]

Exactly I mean in the Las Vegas version, Sierra was young and good but her voice was much more controlled in the 25th clip.

[@christinedaae8725]

Emmy & Sierra ♥

[@ruthrattner5609]

1:00

[@marquardtadri]

@PhantomPhan321 B flat. :)

[@KayleighYoung0]

It's not a fact. Do you see in it an encyclopedia? Is it PROVEN, like, actually PROVEN? I'm not saying Rebecca sucks or anything but technically it's not a fact. And Emmy Rossum was around SEVENTEEN when they filmed that, so her voice is beautiful for her age. Now if you'll excuse me, I have better things to do than listen to people bitch and complain. Maybe if you didn't comment this wouldn't happen. Goodbye.

[@emilly26rz]

EMMY E MITO LINDA PERFEITAMENTE EMMY SEMPRE

[@Chaneloweenz]

sierra boggess forever

[@KayleighYoung0]

Look, I already went through this ^.
I don't feel like arguing with someone else. If you're really that rude then you should go find something else to do.

[@emilly26rz]

Emmy Rossum!

[@landl47]

Rumi Iryo and Sandra Joseph aren't coloraturo sopranos. They can't reach the last note, so they sing a lower note which sounds strange. Rebecca Caine is the best I've heard; I saw her play Christine in Toronto and she's spectacular. Celia Graham is the worst for me- she's screeching, not singing.

[@susanbarral2014]

I prefer Sierra Boggess. She's my favorite Christine.

[@MUSICCGP]

And I have to say I didn't like Irasema Terrazas, her voice sounds much more mature, not like Christine's voice.

[@angie.mci10]

Sarah Brightman!!!

[@angie.mci10]

EMMY ROSSUM!

[@heatherstephenson4802]

sierra

[@Poet2916]

Sarah Brightman's vibrato needs to be toned down a notch, I really liked Irasema Terrazas, Andrea Maho's annoys the heck out of me, I liked the little staccato notes in Rachel Barrell's cadenza, and as I said I hated Emmy's in the movie, I really liked Anna Maria Kaufmann's cadenza, Claire Moore's is aggravating

[@Poet2916]

I didn't like Celia Graham's cadenza at all, Sierra is lovely as always. I hated Emmy Rossum's in the movie..Rebecca Caine's last note is lovely, but I think it's dragged out a bit too much...Beth Soulhard's vibrato and deliverance is amazing. I can't seem to enjoy Rumi Iryo's at all, it seemed forced. Something about Sandra Joseph's sounds strange to me....Hye Kyung Lee's sounded just like the movies..Deborah Dutcher's is ok to me, Dale Kristien's sounds pretty wonderful

[@ethalinia]

I hate the opera-like versions...they're amazing singers, I'm not arguing with that, but I just don't like the mature type of voice for Christine :) Sierra is my favorite...

[@1S1NGG8]

Sierra wins.

[@KayleighYoung0]

You're a bit late to the party. This conversation ended like a month ago.

[@jaykeincp]

seriera bogess just awful imo