Most of it I had to make myself. Alot of the stuff around the stage is just paper and cardboard (with the designes printed out onto them. But the chandelier itself is a bit more complex. It is basically a plexiglass frame with the lazer engraved plastic around it. Tiny clear beads, paper clips and fake pearls for the globes. Even a bit of Lego in there somewhere,lol.
That's what this video is sort of supposed to be. It doesn't go fully in-depth, but you should be able to reverse-engineer it from watching it if you spend some time on it :D
@bajanwhiteboy From what I understand number 3 is the safety wire. Because computer automation is never 100% and with such a large dangerous object hanging over the orchestra pit and audience... If number 2 for whatever reasons doesn't pull in the chandelier 1 will just drop it straight into the orchestra pit, so number 3 is basically a dead hung line that will never allow the chandelier to drop into a dangerous place. I know the SM who did the original show, I'll ask her.
the stage is a piece of thick plywood to support the weight, with a big hole cut out in the middle of the stage. then a piece of perspex / plexi glass over the hole with the traps cut into it. the top layer is just some shiny black plastic.
This is absolutely stunning. I think you're barking mad but would love to do what you've done (I think it's amazing!!). I love set design and am demi-obsessed by The Phantom. This is just wonderful. And, as Wayne asks, where did you get the score from? Is it available? I have got various 'karaoke' versions, some of which have great orchestral performances, but none of the incidental music between songs. Really impressed! Well done.
Man- I have to build this for my technical theatre class. We're doing POTO in May but we are already set/prop building. It's going to be hard to rig this!
the tiny beads are just your usual little clear glass beads on black sewing threat (with a little glue at each end incase a strand breaks) the main globes, those are cheap fake pearl beads, the gold thing they ar eattached to are bent paperclips sprayed gold, lol, if you bend them a certain way then they have the right shape (remember the tops of paperclips are rounded already) so you just stick it through the hole in the beat and a dollup of hot clue holds them in.
thanks, currently too busy to work on anything else at the moment. But I really would like to tackle Wicked at some point, (I love shows with false prosceniums) Have also thought about lighting, going the LED route, but nothing like that is really available here and would be too expensive to bring in.
Your models are exceptional. Are you a professional set designer by trade or is this just a hobby of yours? Hope you make more of these. They're very inspirational to watch. Also, where did you obtain a copy of the instrumental version of POTO?
the rings of the chandelier actually hang off themselves. If i was to let it fall to the stage it would totally collapse one on top of the other. Th=o give it the crumple look, I had to glue in a piece of plastic that would stop the main middle ring from falling flat, it sort of keeps it up in the air so it just falls to one side
Quick question, what would happen if you pulled string one really fast so it came flying down and then yanked number two? Would the chandelier come down more violently or would it just brake
It could be that the #2 ropes are tight and pulling it back towards the stage, or that the chandelier is not balanced. When mine was finished, it would droop to one side, i placed some pennies inside it to balance the weight
I dare you to make a version of the chandelier rising from the Las Vegas spectacular. It rose in four separate pieces and joined when they reached the ceiling.
Hi there, Your work is incredible, well done. I am a big model theatre fan and just getting back into it. I'm aabout to start building my theatre and wondered if you have done any work on your lighting? And are you workinjg on any other projects? Best regards Simon
have you've ever considered building replica models like this? (not just the chandilier but like the whole set) and selling it on ebay or something? there are quite alot of people out there (including myself) that would pay handsomely for a set like this
could you possibly make a Vegas style chandelier? NOT for commission, just so i can see a better look at it falling, and if you can manage, the oveture scene.
@GuyverFan95 sorry but that is insanely silly to say. Do you actually aprreciate this? Cus it's amazing and the chandalier from the LAS VEGAS SPECTACULAR has nothing to do with this. The Las Vegas one isn't the original and is a one-of-a-kind chandalier so I think he did what most productions had. It's amazing.
hello Enrinque Sanchez im doing the same thing exept its going to be the Phantom us tour stage with real working lighting and fireworks if i can get that to work ???? any way ill also have dry ice for the stage and a moving boat
Maybe rope #3 is a backup for rope #1. that way if rope #1 breaks then rope #3 will cactch it and swing it towards the stage instead of straight down. that's my guessing. lol
Dude, if you ever finish the sets for the whole show, please do a video sequence of the sets moving and changing! :) BTW! Why dont you get one of those smoke machines that work under water and put one or two under the stage (obviously let the smoke into the deck by some trap doors and you can get smoke on stage :)
lol, only have 2 hands to operate this one, I think if I tried to make the fevas one i would need 3 or 4 people to work it, not to mention making that chandelier was a nightmare in itself, can't imagine tackling making the vegas one
bajanwhiteboy I know this threads from a long time ago, but do happen to still have the drafts and construction drawings of the chandelier? And if possible could I get them somehow please? 😂
It could be, I am still not 100% sure what #3 is for, looking at recent pics of the South African production, there is no way the Phantom could reach #3.
#3 serves a purpose as a backup rigging and is required by most safety laws. 3 Absolutely doesn't allow for the chandelier to come close to the audience.
that part is very complicated because the rings are made of 1/4 thick perspex. I had to make a thin piece of plastic with holes along the edge to string the beads to then glue that onto the rings. you can look at the photos here, it may explain it better flickr.com/photos/27199361@N08/
I had to make little plastic 'ovals' the size of each layer and in those plastic ovals, there were tiny holes for the thread to be attached, then these 'ovals' were stuck on to the different 'levels'
This is just for me,
0:00 Seal My Fate Tonight
0:35 Don Juan Triumphant
2:48 Overture
4:56 Point Of No Return
I never get tired of watching this. Bravo!
That's freaking amazing! Both how the chandelier works, and your model! i wanna make one now.
Excellent! You've put a lot of great work into this.
Your chandelier is so perfect, I wish mine looked as good as yours
This is very well done. Sadly it doesn't get more likes in the past 10 years.
Maybe this video will blow some day
You're a genious, you inspire me.
Whoa! That's like advanced creativity!! I can't even master that!
Thanks for that clear explanation. And congratulations on such a well made model
Beautiful!!
I like very much your small stage of POTO.
This was amazing! Great work
Could you provide a link to the "plans" you had in the beginning? Thanks. Great work.
Most of it I had to make myself. Alot of the stuff around the stage is just paper and cardboard (with the designes printed out onto them. But the chandelier itself is a bit more complex. It is basically a plexiglass frame with the lazer engraved plastic around it. Tiny clear beads, paper clips and fake pearls for the globes. Even a bit of Lego in there somewhere,lol.
Where did you find the design to print off? It’s looks amazing
I love phantom
I would love to play with this! Can you possibly make an instruction guide?
That's what this video is sort of supposed to be. It doesn't go fully in-depth, but you should be able to reverse-engineer it from watching it if you spend some time on it :D
amazing work.......love it
@bajanwhiteboy From what I understand number 3 is the safety wire. Because computer automation is never 100% and with such a large dangerous object hanging over the orchestra pit and audience... If number 2 for whatever reasons doesn't pull in the chandelier 1 will just drop it straight into the orchestra pit, so number 3 is basically a dead hung line that will never allow the chandelier to drop into a dangerous place. I know the SM who did the original show, I'll ask her.
This is as fascinating as watching the actual chandelier in action.
This is so cool man well done
Superb work!
the stage is a piece of thick plywood to support the weight, with a big hole cut out in the middle of the stage. then a piece of perspex / plexi glass over the hole with the traps cut into it. the top layer is just some shiny black plastic.
This is absolutely stunning. I think you're barking mad but would love to do what you've done (I think it's amazing!!). I love set design and am demi-obsessed by The Phantom. This is just wonderful. And, as Wayne asks, where did you get the score from? Is it available? I have got various 'karaoke' versions, some of which have great orchestral performances, but none of the incidental music between songs. Really impressed! Well done.
A true genius!
Are you going to make a miniature show? It would be cool with the lights and effects; I would watch it every time!
I’ll pay so much money to buy the whole model, seriously
Freaking awesome!!
AWESOME! AMAZING JOB!
Man- I have to build this for my technical theatre class. We're doing POTO in May but we are already set/prop building. It's going to be hard to rig this!
Really good job ! :D
the tiny beads are just your usual little clear glass beads on black sewing threat (with a little glue at each end incase a strand breaks)
the main globes, those are cheap fake pearl beads, the gold thing they ar eattached to are bent paperclips sprayed gold, lol, if you bend them a certain way then they have the right shape (remember the tops of paperclips are rounded already) so you just stick it through the hole in the beat and a dollup of hot clue holds them in.
thanks, currently too busy to work on anything else at the moment. But I really would like to tackle Wicked at some point, (I love shows with false prosceniums) Have also thought about lighting, going the LED route, but nothing like that is really available here and would be too expensive to bring in.
Awesome job. (:
@bajanwhiteboy maybe not in that production, but you can find videos from London where the Phantom pulls the cable and the chandelier rocks.
Your models are exceptional. Are you a professional set designer by trade or is this just a hobby of yours? Hope you make more of these. They're very inspirational to watch. Also, where did you obtain a copy of the instrumental version of POTO?
the rings of the chandelier actually hang off themselves. If i was to let it fall to the stage it would totally collapse one on top of the other. Th=o give it the crumple look, I had to glue in a piece of plastic that would stop the main middle ring from falling flat, it sort of keeps it up in the air so it just falls to one side
last week i watch a free phantom of the opera screening on youtube. today , here i am thinking of how the chandelier in the phantom works.
The main structure of the chandelier are plexy glass oval rings (they are strong and they are clear so you don;t really see them)
the phatom of Opera
Quick question, what would happen if you pulled string one really fast so it came flying down and then yanked number two? Would the chandelier come down more violently or would it just brake
I love you!
いつかそのシャンデリアのミニチュアを作りたいと思っていました!
Could you share the blueprint plans for the chandelier?
Hey! Thanks for the stuff. Question: how do you keep the chandelier together? Internal structure? Also: how do you go into 'crumple position?'
It could be that the #2 ropes are tight and pulling it back towards the stage, or that the chandelier is not balanced. When mine was finished, it would droop to one side, i placed some pennies inside it to balance the weight
yup, #3 does not do anything important (referring to the movement), its just there at a position that it can be grabbed and pulled.
I want a larger replica of this chandelier. I've been debating about building one myself....
I dare you to make a version of the chandelier rising from the Las Vegas spectacular. It rose in four separate pieces and joined when they reached the ceiling.
Hi there,
Your work is incredible, well done. I am a big model theatre fan and just getting back into it. I'm aabout to start building my theatre and wondered if you have done any work on your lighting? And are you workinjg on any other projects?
Best regards
Simon
have you've ever considered building replica models like this? (not just the chandilier but like the whole set) and selling it on ebay or something? there are quite alot of people out there (including myself) that would pay handsomely for a set like this
could you possibly make a Vegas style chandelier? NOT for commission, just so i can see a better look at it falling, and if you can manage, the oveture scene.
@GuyverFan95 sorry but that is insanely silly to say. Do you actually aprreciate this? Cus it's amazing and the chandalier from the LAS VEGAS SPECTACULAR has nothing to do with this. The Las Vegas one isn't the original and is a one-of-a-kind chandalier so I think he did what most productions had. It's amazing.
OMG! Your model is gorgeous, but WHERE DID YOU GET THE MUSIC?!!!!
Where did you get the backing track from?
hello Enrinque Sanchez im doing the same thing exept its going to be the Phantom us tour stage with real working lighting and fireworks if i can get that to work ???? any way ill also have dry ice for the stage and a moving boat
JSR-RADIO OMG that sounds awesome you should definitely do that 😀👍
the lyers are lazer engraved and lazer cut in plastic, so to are the trims.
Thanks! One more thing: How do you attach the strands w/the beads on them to the rings?
Cool amazing
Maybe rope #3 is a backup for rope #1. that way if rope #1 breaks then rope #3 will cactch it and swing it towards the stage instead of straight down. that's my guessing. lol
Dude, if you ever finish the sets for the whole show, please do a video sequence of the sets moving and changing! :) BTW! Why dont you get one of those smoke machines that work under water and put one or two under the stage (obviously let the smoke into the deck by some trap doors and you can get smoke on stage :)
hi - this is fantastic! - and where did you get the soundtrack from please?
gosh no, that alone was way too much work, I never want to make one ever again, lol.
I want it!!!!
Nice
lol, only have 2 hands to operate this one, I think if I tried to make the fevas one i would need 3 or 4 people to work it, not to mention making that chandelier was a nightmare in itself, can't imagine tackling making the vegas one
well, they will be, so far they are just the steps, I need to make the railing and drapery drop.
Would you be willing to sell the chandelier and cables?
The "intermission" is actually the overture.
the theatre is just a wood frame, ply wood and dowels
sweet, I was kind of h opeing that is what it's for.
yup, just nylon string
they are easier to follow for me
Just wondering if you would ever sell the Chandelier how much would you ask or how much for someone to order one
hey i love your chandelier but i want to know where you found the instrumental for don juan & the point of no return :)
Unfortunately they are from way back (hard copy) . I had them scanned I could probably email you if you would like
bajanwhiteboy I know this threads from a long time ago, but do happen to still have the drafts and construction drawings of the chandelier? And if possible could I get them somehow please? 😂
how much would i have to pay you to get you to make me some trims? im serious
Cable #3 prevents the chandelier from swinging side to side so it is there for a reason
cable 3 is there so the chandelier can literally swing side to side on command tho...
Alejandro Hernandez I think they meant during the crash, when it goes over the orchestra.
It could be, I am still not 100% sure what #3 is for, looking at recent pics of the South African production, there is no way the Phantom could reach #3.
#3 serves a purpose as a backup rigging and is required by most safety laws. 3 Absolutely doesn't allow for the chandelier to come close to the audience.
that part is very complicated because the rings are made of 1/4 thick perspex. I had to make a thin piece of plastic with holes along the edge to string the beads to then glue that onto the rings.
you can look at the photos here, it may explain it better
flickr.com/photos/27199361@N08/
Could I use a clip of this in a video I am making and credit you?
sure
2:17 LOL
How
how much would you price one of these at?
Why did you delete/private the other videos 😢
i will send you an email, I tried my best to keep everything to scale, but some things are a little off, I got a floorplan from the Essen production.
Are you still working on this set?
@@acasualcactus5878 nope, had to dismantle it
@@bajanwhiteboy Would you be able to send me a link to the photos you used for the statues and angel, and any other photos you used for reference?
@@acasualcactus5878 unfortuately i lost those files in a major computer crash earlier this year
@GuyverFan95 lol
where did you get the music from?
How did you get the point of no return backing track?
www.reddit.com/r/CastRecordings/comments/4bh2qm/the_phantom_of_the_opera_uk_tour_2013/
bajanwhiteboy thank you so much!
edit: the post was archived and led me to a dead link
What did you use to string the beads to?
I had to make little plastic 'ovals' the size of each layer and in those plastic ovals, there were tiny holes for the thread to be attached, then these 'ovals' were stuck on to the different 'levels'
bajanwhiteboy how did you make the lyres ???
Why do I think that 0:00-1:22 sounds like Tom and Jerry music? Have I gone insane? THIS IS FRICKIN PHANTOM, NOT TOM AND JERRY!
Tiny chandelier. ok then
no, they are too tiny and they don't make beads that small, the globes themselves are tine fake plastic pearls so they are less than half inch across.
Oh no, way too complex, I would need another 4 people just to have enough hands to pull all those wires
:P
no , not professioal, just a hobby, as for the music, found it online, can send you if you'd like, just sent me your email. bajanwhiteboy@hotmail.com