Who wouldve thought Sonic's most iconic and trademark ability would become so broken? Maybe thats why it took so long for it to return in a 3D Sonic game...
By far the best ability in the game. It's like boost, except it controls better, it damages enemies, and MAN you go fast with it! SEGA was really cooking with gas this time!
No Air Decelerate combined with the Spin Dash really is overpowered. It's a ton of fun but holy cow you can skip like 50% of Sky rail with it and other stages. 😂 It even beats out the homing dash sometimes. The Spin Dash does make the 2D sections much more fun overall. You gain alot of speed and it even works through loops! I didn't have Cyberspace Power boost on the save I got Spin Dash (cause I'm stupid lol) so figured I'd do this recording while re-unlocking it before going into NG+
it just goes to show how much sonic was nerfed in Frontiers as a whole i mean they gave us the ability to level sonic's speed kind of like in unleashed and it doesn't feel like a upgrade at all. A great example is stage 1-2 you can FEEL how slow sonic is compared to stage 1-1 even with the spin dash. I know why they did that but i would have preferred much longer levels if they got to show off just how fast sonic could get and the crazy things he is capable of doing.
@user-rd6zt2hi7r They add extra boost gauge. You'll basicly have four rings of boost gauge if you get them all. It's nice for situations where you can't do the infinite sign.
Know this looks like crazy fun dude, The Spindash turned out better than i ever could've imagined bro, Know i really can't wait for update three🦔🤌❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Switch the difficulty to Easy. It lowers the score needed to S Rank the challenges. It's stupid easy, I know, but as somebody who did it for the Spin Dash but didn't want to go through the trouble of getting it on hard, and having just unlocked it a while ago and seeing how stupid broken and fun it is to use, I say "I don't care, it's totally worth it." Hope this helps.
It surprises me that they manage to implement the spindash, the roll and the drop dash in a Single button B+lt= spindash Move+lt= overpowered roll In the air+lt= the better drop dash
Hopefully in the future, Sega should make a new modern 3d sonic where he boost and spin dash the same time. Both mix really well. All new levels where it least 2 - 3 minutes longer as well. This is a great progress.
Spin dash just looks like the Boost from previous Sonic games (Boost + Damage). I actually find the new one more balanced and fun. The no air deceleration thing is actually the insane and broken part TBH.
I've figured out some tech for 1-2 at the beginning once you get to the big hill spindash as normal but go to the left where there is a platform which has collision and jump dash to get out of the invisible wall then do a stomp bounce to do a stomp dash on the balloons and then proceed as normal
The wonderful thing about this update is the fact of for the first time in the franchise to coexist the spin dash with the boost what in the open world the spin dash to fly and the boost reach a thousand times further than we thought months ago and in cyberspace not to mention that the two are a real madness and more with the desaseleration motion what is incredible for the momentum of all the Game with or without Spindash For the first time I am in favor of the spin dash and turbo in the same game and it is beautiful and although the spindash will be the most broken of the game because the turbo helps expand what the spindash brought as a novelty being perfect in absolutely all tantl cyberspace as open zone
When I use the spin dash for the first time in the cyberspace levels in cyberspace challenge mode,I unexpectedly quote that line that was said by Gary the stormtrooper from the robot chicken star wars special 3 where it feels like a dream on using Sonic's iconic move most of the time in the cyberspace challenge mode
I find it hilarious that people are mad that this is basically a boost with a hitbox. I think that's how it should've been all along. Boost for top speed but you can't just dash through enemies and spin dash for when you want to destroy enemies and keep going. Boost keeps speed but has a low cap spin gets higher cap but only speeds up on slopes and slows after a bit on straights or inclines. Makes both moves possible because each one has a purpose
Sick Gameplay, I'm going to see just how busted my times are gonna be once I incorporate spin dash into my runs. Quick question for anyone who can answer for a friend in I: Can you unlock Spin Dash in extreme difficulty or is that an upgrade that's, or just locked or very difficult to achieve with all S Ranks on the Action Chain challenges?
Just have to get all s ranks in action chain challenges and then you can just start new game+ on extreme difficulty and play with it from the beginning
@@jamesmann3867 Thanks for the advice. My friend was already on Extreme, he NG+'d, and he's on easy to Unlock it faster, so now all he has to do is beat the NG+ with Spin Dash, do another NG+ from that file on Extreme, and then he can do a 2nd extreme playthrough with spin dash. All the exposition out of the way, thanks again for the advice. The Normal and Hard Scores are tricky, I'd hate to imagine what you'd have to do to unlock it on Extreme if you're even able to. Just told my friend what you said, and he appreciates this! Cheers!
Well it's stronger than SA1, I still like SA1 spin dash more as it's abit more balanced and is tied into the levels better. That being said we haven't seen a momentum based Spin Dash in so long I'm just happy we got this.
@@sonicovertime Looks refreshing. When are the other updates coming in? Any word? I'm going back to the game for a second playthru once everything is put in.
This goes to show that the spin dash was always better than the boost. No disrespect to the boost formula but they should’ve never gotten rid of the spin dash in the first place
Sega is listing to us. So if they listen I would like a skin for all team sonic sonic :SA2 sonic tails :movie tails knuckles: OVA knuckles this would be insane if they listen to me this is for super stars also awesome
@ohosmandivine6770 No, it's not. I've literally S Ranked every single stage back to back to back. And gotten a 45 on 1-2 without homing dash so no it isn't a skill issue it's this game makes it impossible to get spin dash.
Who wouldve thought Sonic's most iconic and trademark ability would become so broken? Maybe thats why it took so long for it to return in a 3D Sonic game...
It was broken since adventure lmao
@@Ultrasonic10true great for speedruns
sonic adventure dx
He’s is supposed to be a fast hedgehog so I’ll take it.
It is so broken because there is momentum.
2:54 Wow look at that timing with the song
The Ramp launch and landing on the rail matched the beat. Perfection. 😎
@@sonicovertimelike an anime scene or something.
3:40 3,2,1, GO! *Flies halfway into the stage*
By far the best ability in the game. It's like boost, except it controls better, it damages enemies, and MAN you go fast with it! SEGA was really cooking with gas this time!
also if you hit a pebble you rocket off in a way not too dissimilar from sonic adventures spindash.
@@supersmashbro596 Adventure 4 when? I’ll tell you: TODAY!
Not losing speed from jumping also helps.
27:30 I love how he activates the switch and proceeds to skip it anyway.
and proceeds to get punished for it
@@ShockHat734 and proceeds to upload this version of the video
No Air Decelerate combined with the Spin Dash really is overpowered. It's a ton of fun but holy cow you can skip like 50% of Sky rail with it and other stages. 😂 It even beats out the homing dash sometimes. The Spin Dash does make the 2D sections much more fun overall. You gain alot of speed and it even works through loops!
I didn't have Cyberspace Power boost on the save I got Spin Dash (cause I'm stupid lol) so figured I'd do this recording while re-unlocking it before going into NG+
it's incredible that it works with the loop, the drop dash doesn't lol
I found it weird how they make spin dash work with loops, but drop dash and rolling by pressing down is still broken.
@@Gnidel that's because the spindash uses the boost code plus invincibility and slope momentum, it's quite literally the forces boost
i had to raise air dec. to 25 bc otherwise i felt like i was playing as tails. they broke this game in half. it's so funny
We getting out of Cyberspace with this one. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Underrated comment 😂
Friendship ended with Boost, now Spin Dash is my new best friend
For the first time ever where we had to earn the spin dash it was totally worth it!
Can't wait to do this in New Game+!
Add power boost with it and it becomes a force to reckon with
Spin dash the most useful tool in every Sonic game since Sonic the Hedgehog 2. 💙🦔💙
I'd say the boost is more useful when it could hit enemies, but sure
And then we have Sonic 06
@@RemisterReal it can do the exact same thing 🤨
Shadow the hedgehog creeps in the room.
@@-KORAL_ZERO heh, with the drift mechanic I think it control better
2D doesn't feel slow anymore (like seriously, power boost did almost nothing in 2D).
Yea finally 2D is so much fun now
Much better. Spin Dash while boosting can plow through enemies too.
Classic Sonic: HE DID MY MOVE BETTER THAN ME!!!!
We got another way to flow in time and into the light
I got a S rank on the level with that song a few months ago
with this newest update adeing jump momentum and the spindash, i think that i can safely say that they perfected sonic's movement in 3d
it just goes to show how much sonic was nerfed in Frontiers as a whole i mean they gave us the ability to level sonic's speed kind of like in unleashed and it doesn't feel like a upgrade at all. A great example is stage 1-2 you can FEEL how slow sonic is compared to stage 1-1 even with the spin dash. I know why they did that but i would have preferred much longer levels if they got to show off just how fast sonic could get and the crazy things he is capable of doing.
@user-rd6zt2hi7r They add extra boost gauge. You'll basicly have four rings of boost gauge if you get them all. It's nice for situations where you can't do the infinite sign.
Damn, the spin dash really does just break this game in half
Know this looks like crazy fun dude, The Spindash turned out better than i ever could've imagined bro, Know i really can't wait for update three🦔🤌❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
This is not a mod, if some people are confusing, this is the second update of the road map of sonic frontiers
You go so incredibly fast that if we were to blink we would miss half an act
So it’s like a combination of lost word, adventure and generations spin dash. Cool
even kind of a mix of super smash bros ultimate's spindash, you can charge it up in the air, just not release it
I love how broken spin dash is in these levels. Its great combo with the homing dash
Who knew the spindash in frontiers would be so damn broken
They made it tough to get the S rank on all the challenges to get the spin dash.
Switch the difficulty to Easy. It lowers the score needed to S Rank the challenges. It's stupid easy, I know, but as somebody who did it for the Spin Dash but didn't want to go through the trouble of getting it on hard, and having just unlocked it a while ago and seeing how stupid broken and fun it is to use, I say "I don't care, it's totally worth it." Hope this helps.
@@kinghyperheart1571even on hard its easy, you just gotta kill a guardian or like 4 enemies after you get a good multiplier
@@kinghyperheart1571 well ahit i wish i knew that earlier before i slogged through all of it on hard
So worth the wait!
Happy birthday sonic!🎉🎉🎉 🥳🥳🥳🎂🎂🎂
It surprises me that they manage to implement the spindash, the roll and the drop dash in a Single button
B+lt= spindash
Move+lt= overpowered roll
In the air+lt= the better drop dash
Hopefully in the future, Sega should make a new modern 3d sonic where he boost and spin dash the same time. Both mix really well. All new levels where it least 2 - 3 minutes longer as well. This is a great progress.
Spin dash just looks like the Boost from previous Sonic games (Boost + Damage). I actually find the new one more balanced and fun.
The no air deceleration thing is actually the insane and broken part TBH.
This feels like sonic I love it
Dude cyberspace became perfect honestly 😭
Ok so spin dash is just classic sonic spin dash from sonic generation?
Yep, this IS a sonic game and SPIN DASH returned.
Ladies and gentlemen, 1-2 is now easy.
I've figured out some tech for 1-2 at the beginning once you get to the big hill spindash as normal but go to the left where there is a platform which has collision and jump dash to get out of the invisible wall then do a stomp bounce to do a stomp dash on the balloons and then proceed as normal
Me: 1-2 get ready for my revenge
The wonderful thing about this update is the fact of for the first time in the franchise to coexist the spin dash with the boost what in the open world the spin dash to fly and the boost reach a thousand times further than we thought months ago and in cyberspace not to mention that the two are a real madness and more with the desaseleration motion what is incredible for the momentum of all the Game with or without Spindash
For the first time I am in favor of the spin dash and turbo in the same game and it is beautiful and although the spindash will be the most broken of the game because the turbo helps expand what the spindash brought as a novelty being perfect in absolutely all tantl cyberspace as open zone
Spin dash in 1-6 and 4-5 is there it shines
1-7 as well
Idk if anyone has covered this yet but in the open zone, you can cyloop while spindashing.
Sonic is actually fast now oh shit
this is just sonic unleashed with slope physics, it's terrifying and I love it
This is now the only game that the spindash uses the boost meter. (Not including mods ofc)
When I use the spin dash for the first time in the cyberspace levels in cyberspace challenge mode,I unexpectedly quote that line that was said by Gary the stormtrooper from the robot chicken star wars special 3 where it feels like a dream on using Sonic's iconic move most of the time in the cyberspace challenge mode
Im not really complaining but holy hell who approved this
Someone cool
So just so we're clear, the footage here has 0 mods in use right?
Yup. Just spindash combined with air deceleration😊
@@sticonsthe2nd They really tweak up the physics? Cyberspace looks a lot more fun to play now!
@@theswig2339all the mods break when a update drops, so this is 100% vanilla frontiers
@@JS_HP Thank you all for the confirmation! I’m so stoked to try this update out when I have free time.
20:39 Dang…
In the open zone if you keep spamming it you can go faster than the power boost with it
Oh man what is the mod's name for no air deceleration ? It becomes a more enjoyable Sonic Frontier !
It's not a mod, it's part of the update! Just need to go to options and turn air deceleration to 0.
@@sonicovertime OMG The Hedge-God heard me ! Thanks dude !
As soon as I saw the comment, before even going to the replies I was like
"Oh-hoho! This man's overjoyed and shocked at the answer"
Power Boost Cyberspace
I find it hilarious that people are mad that this is basically a boost with a hitbox. I think that's how it should've been all along. Boost for top speed but you can't just dash through enemies and spin dash for when you want to destroy enemies and keep going. Boost keeps speed but has a low cap spin gets higher cap but only speeds up on slopes and slows after a bit on straights or inclines. Makes both moves possible because each one has a purpose
No crazy skips at 4-1 cuz we gotta hear that bop
Wait he can even have Sonic that he can do the SpinDash in Cyberspace?! How can I activate the SpinDash Cyberspace? 1:29
Sick Gameplay, I'm going to see just how busted my times are gonna be once I incorporate spin dash into my runs.
Quick question for anyone who can answer for a friend in I: Can you unlock Spin Dash in extreme difficulty or is that an upgrade that's, or just locked or very difficult to achieve with all S Ranks on the Action Chain challenges?
If you can't get it on Extreme just get it on Easy/Hard then try if NG+ let's you pick Extreme
Just have to get all s ranks in action chain challenges and then you can just start new game+ on extreme difficulty and play with it from the beginning
@@jamesmann3867 Thanks for the advice.
My friend was already on Extreme, he NG+'d, and he's on easy to Unlock it faster, so now all he has to do is beat the NG+ with Spin Dash, do another NG+ from that file on Extreme, and then he can do a 2nd extreme playthrough with spin dash.
All the exposition out of the way, thanks again for the advice. The Normal and Hard Scores are tricky, I'd hate to imagine what you'd have to do to unlock it on Extreme if you're even able to. Just told my friend what you said, and he appreciates this! Cheers!
Nostalgia
but what a good friend, now I understand how to do it
Sonic frontiers has peaked
Why didn't you turn off the boost sound effect for cyber space ;(
The fastest hedgehog alive!
Spin dash is literally faster than actual running speed!!!
Always has been
@@jakethedog1483 That’s wonderful bro!!
@@jakethedog1483 What about attack power and speed upgrade? The maximum level should be 200 or 300.
@@beastalan1007 speed upgrade makes your boost faster
@@jakethedog1483 I know.
Tbh this should already be in da base game
Well it’s already here so better late then nothing ig
Pregunta, se puede usar desde el principio, o hay que completar todos los niveles del cyberspace para usarlo?
Lo digo porque el spindash esta roto
Yes
You need to S rank every action chain challenge
better than adventure 1 spindash? 🤔
Well it's stronger than SA1, I still like SA1 spin dash more as it's abit more balanced and is tied into the levels better. That being said we haven't seen a momentum based Spin Dash in so long I'm just happy we got this.
@@sonicovertime Looks refreshing. When are the other updates coming in? Any word?
I'm going back to the game for a second playthru once everything is put in.
@@randomd00d19 Pretty sure the last update is around December, which will be the Biggest update. Adding Tails, Knuckles, Amy along with more!
Hello all
@@sonicovertime That sounds huge. Looking forward to that
This goes to show that the spin dash was always better than the boost. No disrespect to the boost formula but they should’ve never gotten rid of the spin dash in the first place
It's also proof that they can coexist!
@@yetanotherhankhill1032Tbf, they already co-existed in the Rush games, tho the Spin Dash was absolutely useless there
Sega is listing to us. So if they listen I would like a skin for all team sonic sonic :SA2 sonic tails :movie tails knuckles: OVA knuckles this would be insane if they listen to me this is for super stars also awesome
Abilities become dlc, think about that
yes...is,very insane xD and very fast
How to make cyberspace actually fun:
I don't understand why they don't just replace the "boost" with a spin-dash in games.
Bro the physics are so broken
Ok you just gave me motivation to unlock it
i hope they won't nerf the spindash, it looks so fun (i haven't unlocked it yet)
Too bad it's locked behind the WORST challenge ever made for this game. I prob won't do it. EVER. It's so mean.....
@ohosmandivine6770 No, it's not. I've literally S Ranked every single stage back to back to back. And gotten a 45 on 1-2 without homing dash so no it isn't a skill issue it's this game makes it impossible to get spin dash.
@ohosmandivine6770 Not challenging impossible as it is NOT a skill issue it's a "fuck this game" issue
@ohosmandivine6770 no u