so satisfying to see a 40 minute gameplay of the cyberspace. now imagine the open world, puzzle, story etc with it. this game definitely is longer than forces
and then they said that the levels of sonic forces were short, anyway if we compare these levels with "generations" and "unleashed" they definitely lose
@@khalilanarchy I feel like you're confusing "suck" for "wanting to explore the world and find all of the hidden secrets" Im not talking 100%ing, just taking your time. Though, I'm only 4.5 hours in, so maybe it will take only 15 hours.
Yes,it indeed is true that the Cyberspace levels steal a lot of old layouts Yes,it is true that the whole "Sonic memories" thing isn't enough to justify that However... seeing all these references to the past 3D games makes me hope someday we will see actual remakes of them,especially the Adventure games and Heroes
Just started playing this game yesterday and I got to say this is the kind of challenge I need before this came out the only Sonic game that was real challenge was Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Adventure 2
I like how a lot of the last Island's cyberspace levels FEEL a lot like levels from Adventure 2, Heroes, Unleashed and Generations, but you can't quite pinpoint if they are or aren't. The one that I know for sure is a level from Adventure 2 is 4-1 in Metal Harbor. Levels like 4-3 FEEL like Bullet Station but it's really hard to tell if it is. These levels almost feel like a sonic level design teaching tool for new designers, and they sort of made their own sa2 or unleashed-style levels for the last island. It's really cool.
when I got to 3-1, that's when I realized they brought back old stages. I'm very happy they brought back more obscure stages and the best ones. Green Forest is a jam.
I enjoyed these stages alot more than I thought, the lightspeed dash is a dope reintroduction to sonics arsenal, though if you use it in goofy ways, you get some goofy results in this game
i like how most of the comment section didnt even properly watch the footage and assumed all level design is reused when all the final island ones at the end are like 90% original level design and are like, really strong in terms of level design there's also long stages later on too so like, im a little confused
doesnt change the fact that 90% of cyberspace is reused and 90% of the levels dont reach the 1 minute and 20 seconds mark. obviously there are exceptions, but that doesnt change the fact that the comment section is generally correct about cyberspace being short and reused levels
@@kao7143 because their unfullfilling. compare forces lost valley to unleashed windmill isle. lost valley ends super abruptly whereas windmill isle feels satisfying because it feels like you played an actual level at not a minigame. it doesnt help that frontiers cyber stages can be even shorter with some reaching only 40-55 seconds. imagine if generations/unleashed had stages that were only 30 seconds long
@@gggsh7 difference is the cyberspace levels are side stages that can be skipped by avoiding all portal gears and actively finding keys by cylooping treasure spots if cyberspace was the whole game id agree but they're short stages that help you progress to unlocking emeralds
@@kao7143 but the thing is that they are the main way to get vault keys and the other ways are extremely basic and or repetitive. so the only fun way to do it is also the one where they are short as hell. side stages isnt much of an excuse for 40 second long stages either, now it doesnt need to be unleashed with the 5 minute long levels, but i think theres a major problem if a majority can either not or just barely reach the 1 minute mark. skipping them isnt ideal since you'll still be missing out on a good portion of the game (which also in turn introduces more repetition) and playinf them isnt so much better since like i said before they still are unfulfilling as hell
People are expecting Cyberspace levels to play like full length boost formula levels when they’re basically the special stages and supposed to be shorter lol. Even then a lot of them are still better than everything in Forces and a lot of Colors. Plus the levels only get better and more enjoyable as you progress. I swear people are just finding the stupidest excuses to hate on Sonic for no reason. Amazing game.
this comment is what happens when you meatride. the problem with this levels is that alot of them are just rehashes of previous levels but with worse physics, shorter length, and only 4 different level aethestics. i dont think people are being unjustifiably hateful towards this game when it has these kinds of problems. also it being better than forces is not an achievement because forces stages were hot garbage and most of these levels arent original anyway, they just take from past boost games. these levels are only better than the act 3-6 levels of colors anyway, which is also not an achievement since those stages suffer from the same problems
That moment when you can pinpoint which stage each levels is based on... Wait... Are they only from Sonic Adventure2, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations?
These levels are still better than anything in Forces. The best Forces had was Mortar Canyon and you can basically just fly over the entire level with broken air boost.
@@jesuspernia8031 Null space, capital city, arsenal pyramid, egg gate are all better than mortar canyon. You'll see just how awful Mortar Canyon is if you go look at the beta design. Additionally, even on its own it sucks. All downhill, straight line, scattered platforms and rails that do nothing (at the beginning).
@@MattsFTRTheMisanthropist Oh well. You may or may not be right. Either way not like I’m ever touching that game again especially after playing Frontiers. I may give Forces Reimagined a go once it’s finished tho.
and then they said that the levels of sonic forces were short, anyway if we compare these levels with "generations" and "unleashed" they definitely lose
It's looking grim 😔 Cyberspace is them literally stealing a level layout from an older game and slapping green hill, sky sancuary, or chemical plant on it. Either that or just porting the original level. I'd be cool with it if the physics was like Gens, the game they love using levels from.
That's not how it works. You don't just 'port' shit over to a completely different engine. You recreate it _from scratch._ And it's not stealing. It's no more stealing than a comedian telling a joke they've already told before. It's their content. They're entitled to reuse their content whenever they feel like it.
@@bfg10k42 He was tanky in unleashed and generations because they were simulating realistic speed, similar to a car. They didn't keep it because people have skill issues.
I really wanted to like the cyberspace i really do wanted to but at the end of the day they aren't worse part of the game but they are surtenly mid as fuck atleast in my opinion.
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so satisfying to see a 40 minute gameplay of the cyberspace. now imagine the open world, puzzle, story etc with it. this game definitely is longer than forces
and then they said that the levels of sonic forces were short, anyway if we compare these levels with "generations" and "unleashed" they definitely lose
Its said that it would take around 20-30 hours to finish
@@nazonrev5087 nah that’s just if u suck, it actually is like 15 hours which is still really fkn long for a sonic game
@@khalilanarchy I feel like you're confusing "suck" for "wanting to explore the world and find all of the hidden secrets" Im not talking 100%ing, just taking your time. Though, I'm only 4.5 hours in, so maybe it will take only 15 hours.
@@sharou7138 al menos no son el gameplay central del juego, como me gusta decir, es como tener un mini Sonic forces dentro de Frontiers
Yes,it indeed is true that the Cyberspace levels steal a lot of old layouts
Yes,it is true that the whole "Sonic memories" thing isn't enough to justify that
However... seeing all these references to the past 3D games makes me hope someday we will see actual remakes of them,especially the Adventure games and Heroes
this mf said "steal" 💀
I like how 3-3 Is just the Sonic Generations Sky Santuary. What a nice come back
Just started playing this game yesterday and I got to say this is the kind of challenge I need before this came out the only Sonic game that was real challenge was Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Adventure 2
I like how a lot of the last Island's cyberspace levels FEEL a lot like levels from Adventure 2, Heroes, Unleashed and Generations, but you can't quite pinpoint if they are or aren't. The one that I know for sure is a level from Adventure 2 is 4-1 in Metal Harbor. Levels like 4-3 FEEL like Bullet Station but it's really hard to tell if it is. These levels almost feel like a sonic level design teaching tool for new designers, and they sort of made their own sa2 or unleashed-style levels for the last island. It's really cool.
4-3 reminded me more of Final Rush from SA2
1-1 windmill isle act 1 (unleashed)
1-4 green hill act 2 (generations)
1-5 chemical plant act 2 (generations)
1-6 green hill act 1 (generations)
1-7 city escape (adventure 2)
2-1 green hill act 2 (generations)
2-2 dragon road act 3 (unleashed)
2-4 radical highway (adventure 2)
2-5 i'm not sure if is sky sanctuary 1, 2 or both from generations
2-6 sky rail (adventure 2)
2-7 sky sanctuary act 1 (generations)
3-1 green forest (adventure 2)
3-2 savannah citadel act 3 (unleashed)
3-3 sky sanctuary act 2 (generations)
3-4 windmill isle act 3 (unleashed)
3-5 savannah citadel act 2 (unleashed)
3-6 rooftop run act 2 (unleashed)
3-7 chemical plant act 2 (generations)
4-1 metal harbor (adventure 2)
4-5 cool edge act 4 (unleashed)
4-6 chemical plant act 1 (generations)
if you know any other, leave me below
when I got to 3-1, that's when I realized they brought back old stages. I'm very happy they brought back more obscure stages and the best ones. Green Forest is a jam.
not sure if i get cool edge vibes from 4-5
I enjoyed these stages alot more than I thought, the lightspeed dash is a dope reintroduction to sonics arsenal, though if you use it in goofy ways, you get some goofy results in this game
i like how most of the comment section didnt even properly watch the footage and assumed all level design is reused when all the final island ones at the end are like 90% original level design and are like, really strong in terms of level design
there's also long stages later on too so like, im a little confused
doesnt change the fact that 90% of cyberspace is reused and 90% of the levels dont reach the 1 minute and 20 seconds mark. obviously there are exceptions, but that doesnt change the fact that the comment section is generally correct about cyberspace being short and reused levels
@@gggsh7 who cares if they're short why do people hate short stages😭
@@kao7143 because their unfullfilling. compare forces lost valley to unleashed windmill isle. lost valley ends super abruptly whereas windmill isle feels satisfying because it feels like you played an actual level at not a minigame. it doesnt help that frontiers cyber stages can be even shorter with some reaching only 40-55 seconds.
imagine if generations/unleashed had stages that were only 30 seconds long
@@gggsh7 difference is the cyberspace levels are side stages that can be skipped by avoiding all portal gears and actively finding keys by cylooping treasure spots
if cyberspace was the whole game id agree but they're short stages that help you progress to unlocking emeralds
@@kao7143 but the thing is that they are the main way to get vault keys and the other ways are extremely basic and or repetitive. so the only fun way to do it is also the one where they are short as hell.
side stages isnt much of an excuse for 40 second long stages either, now it doesnt need to be unleashed with the 5 minute long levels, but i think theres a major problem if a majority can either not or just barely reach the 1 minute mark.
skipping them isnt ideal since you'll still be missing out on a good portion of the game (which also in turn introduces more repetition) and playinf them isnt so much better since like i said before they still are unfulfilling as hell
oh thank you very much, I needed a video to know how to get S rank in phase 2 (the sky sanctuary😂) THIS IS SO FASTER😱
Hey there Blue! Great job getting all the S ranks!
2:10 It's weird to see that they brought back Skyscraper Scamper.
The drift level is pure fan service so modders have something to work with when porting levels
That was great 👌
Great music
Epic.
People are expecting Cyberspace levels to play like full length boost formula levels when they’re basically the special stages and supposed to be shorter lol. Even then a lot of them are still better than everything in Forces and a lot of Colors.
Plus the levels only get better and more enjoyable as you progress. I swear people are just finding the stupidest excuses to hate on Sonic for no reason. Amazing game.
This right here
this comment is what happens when you meatride. the problem with this levels is that alot of them are just rehashes of previous levels but with worse physics, shorter length, and only 4 different level aethestics. i dont think people are being unjustifiably hateful towards this game when it has these kinds of problems. also it being better than forces is not an achievement because forces stages were hot garbage and most of these levels arent original anyway, they just take from past boost games. these levels are only better than the act 3-6 levels of colors anyway, which is also not an achievement since those stages suffer from the same problems
The prompt blocks Sonic while drifting.
The mods have arrived
That moment when you can pinpoint which stage each levels is based on...
Wait...
Are they only from Sonic Adventure2, Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations?
I think so yeah
Yeah, that’s a really weird restriction they placed on themselves. Another one is that for Generations, it’s the Classic Era stages only
Nice Video
And people thought Forces had too much green hill lol
These levels are still better than anything in Forces. The best Forces had was Mortar Canyon and you can basically just fly over the entire level with broken air boost.
@@jesuspernia8031 I never said forces was better. Also mortar canyon is crap
@@MattsFTRTheMisanthropist
Then what else is the best level? Cause everything else is pretty much worse. Maybe Null Space?
@@jesuspernia8031 Null space, capital city, arsenal pyramid, egg gate are all better than mortar canyon. You'll see just how awful Mortar Canyon is if you go look at the beta design. Additionally, even on its own it sucks. All downhill, straight line, scattered platforms and rails that do nothing (at the beginning).
@@MattsFTRTheMisanthropist
Oh well. You may or may not be right. Either way not like I’m ever touching that game again especially after playing Frontiers. I may give Forces Reimagined a go once it’s finished tho.
So 30 levels w
_Faster!_
Green Hill
City Escape
Chemical Plant
Sky Sanctuary
*repeat*
and then they said that the levels of sonic forces were short, anyway if we compare these levels with "generations" and "unleashed" they definitely lose
well these aren't the main levels anyway, these are side stages; they don't need to be long
And we dont talk about Sonic colors
Eggman land, 15 f&ck1ng minutes
These are levels from generations and unleashed, just shorter
It'd honestly be a pain if they weren't as bite sized as they are given their nature in the game as glorified special stages
@@sorrai
Finally someone gets it
wow the intro music changed (a bit).
So Is have srb2 frontiers and I can try this is xp
It's looking grim 😔
Cyberspace is them literally stealing a level layout from an older game and slapping green hill, sky sancuary, or chemical plant on it. Either that or just porting the original level. I'd be cool with it if the physics was like Gens, the game they love using levels from.
It's cool that they aren't like Generations, as you aren't a tank in Frontiers.
@@bfg10k42 you weren't a tank in generations either though
@@sorrai Sonic was super tanky in Generations, that's why he needed such a tight drift.
That's not how it works. You don't just 'port' shit over to a completely different engine. You recreate it _from scratch._
And it's not stealing. It's no more stealing than a comedian telling a joke they've already told before. It's their content. They're entitled to reuse their content whenever they feel like it.
@@bfg10k42 He was tanky in unleashed and generations because they were simulating realistic speed, similar to a car. They didn't keep it because people have skill issues.
😝😝
10:02 Sonic runs off a cliff
This must've been painful...
oh well.
1:06 sonic is still running while falling and people say this game is a masterpiece 🤣
The classic games must suck, then.
Literally unplayable
No-one said that
Omg he runs while falling, this game is the worst 😭
I really wanted to like the cyberspace i really do wanted to but at the end of the day they aren't worse part of the game but they are surtenly mid as fuck atleast in my opinion.