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  • @kingofpenguins4157
    @kingofpenguins4157 7 месяцев назад +15272

    The fact that no one stepped forward for the “women are exaggerating period pains” made me feel slightly better

    • @stephaniejohnson5361
      @stephaniejohnson5361 7 месяцев назад +322

      why would they. most of the anti feminist there wanted equality. Not demonizing woman.

    • @Changed.User100
      @Changed.User100 7 месяцев назад +87

      @@stephaniejohnson5361 some women love to believe that just a small bruise to their egos mean that it is misogynistic
      although, I would have liked a "men exaggerated getting kicked in the balls" for the female fem vs female anti fem ngl

    • @noneya1238
      @noneya1238 7 месяцев назад +362

      ​@@Changed.User100Kinda how men feel like equality for both sexes is oppressive to men.

    • @noneya1238
      @noneya1238 7 месяцев назад +186

      ​@@stephaniejohnson5361They didn't even want women to run for president and said horrible things.

    • @dearpercocet.
      @dearpercocet. 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@stephaniejohnson5361the definition of feminisim is literally fighting for equality for everyone

  • @nicpinkygirl
    @nicpinkygirl 9 месяцев назад +30474

    Watching this as a woman is wild.

    • @turquoisestranger7566
      @turquoisestranger7566 9 месяцев назад +2263

      I’m refusing to watch because it’ll only trigger me honestly. The comments are already mentioning the guy who claims women only want abortions because of unprotected sex. As someone whose been sexually assaulted by a past partner it would just be triggering.

    • @limediamond3657
      @limediamond3657 8 месяцев назад +540

      @@turquoisestranger7566 I’m so sorry that happened to you, I hope you’re doing ok now 🫂

    • @dismissedrealist6059
      @dismissedrealist6059 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@turquoisestranger7566Women will literally fabricate whole stories of one of the worse traumatic events that an individual can suffer just too feel empowered, and gain sympathy from others. I also hate to break it to you, but most abortions are absolutely because women want zero responsibility or the reprecussions that hookup culture and promiscuous behavior brings.

    • @devin5297
      @devin5297 8 месяцев назад +277

      Respect 🙏 this was a hard watch

    • @rei0v
      @rei0v 8 месяцев назад +87

      @@turquoisestranger7566 i think he meant some woman who do have abortions for that reason no offense.

  • @leilabsmt3029
    @leilabsmt3029 2 месяца назад +2487

    "Being a mother and having kids is what fulfills a woman " 🤦

    • @aAaa-gj1lh
      @aAaa-gj1lh 2 месяца назад +97

      Yeah, pretty much, unless you want to be single and unwanted once you start getting older wrinkly and unnatractive.

    • @mas3435
      @mas3435 2 месяца назад

      @@aAaa-gj1lhwrong

    • @CAM-ly9sr
      @CAM-ly9sr 2 месяца назад +349

      ⁠@@aAaa-gj1lhbro it’s the woman’s choice… mind your business

    • @ntlnords9567
      @ntlnords9567 2 месяца назад

      @@aAaa-gj1lhdespite the obvious flaws of your opinion,after giving birth,women tend to start aging even faster

    • @strawbzzzombie
      @strawbzzzombie 2 месяца назад

      Found one@@aAaa-gj1lh

  • @TessaRietveld
    @TessaRietveld 3 месяца назад +1163

    All the non feminists talk about 'being protectors', yet I would definitely feel safer with the feminist guys...

    • @SteffanBlanco1
      @SteffanBlanco1 Месяц назад

      he'd try to get laid

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 21 день назад +42

      Trust them with my drink while I pee fr

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 19 дней назад +39

      @@Benjy2248 I’m not going home with anyone…? I’m asexual

    • @Benjy2248
      @Benjy2248 16 дней назад +1

      @@kaliclarke7194 then I wasn’t talking to you, was I?

    • @kaliclarke7194
      @kaliclarke7194 16 дней назад

      @@Benjy2248 crazy concept. Maybe women go out to bars and drink to have FUN, you just can’t stop sexualizing them, that’s literally on you.

  • @basharmubarak116
    @basharmubarak116 8 месяцев назад +11912

    Watching this makes me realise how important emotional intelligence is.

    • @theyou-2-bepodcast190
      @theyou-2-bepodcast190 7 месяцев назад +57

      Gonna out on a limb and claim emotional intelligence isn't real and is just a buzzword, on account of the fact that no one seems to be able to define it.

    • @basharmubarak116
      @basharmubarak116 7 месяцев назад

      @@theyou-2-bepodcast190 that makes no sense. A simple Google search is going to solve that problem of ignorance.

    • @InjaNoKenja
      @InjaNoKenja 7 месяцев назад +338

      ​@theyou-2-bepodcast190 I believe it's the ability to show empathy and sympathy towards others. To reserve judgments for when we truly understand someone's situation. If you think what I'm describing is the minimum, congrats you have high emotional intelligence. I'd also argue that it's the ability to be in tune with your own emotions and express them when necessary.

    • @cyberbrain6440
      @cyberbrain6440 7 месяцев назад +29

      YESSS and sadly that the majority lacks it

    • @ashlee6254
      @ashlee6254 7 месяцев назад

      @@theyou-2-bepodcast190 you ever tried googling it?

  • @sunri528
    @sunri528 8 месяцев назад +4244

    "I think women are more emotional"- Says the guy that has said "I feel" more times than I have ever said in my entire life

    • @zedwalker
      @zedwalker 6 месяцев назад +264

      I never got why people say women are more emotional, if that’s the case why do men commit most violent crimes 😂

    • @roguegamer8568
      @roguegamer8568 6 месяцев назад +34

      ​@@zedwalkerwomen cry about things more men get angry more. That's what that means. Crying gets you nowhere. Anger helps you to push forward. That the difference.

    • @blahajblahajblahaj3
      @blahajblahajblahaj3 6 месяцев назад +303

      @@roguegamer8568 it pushes you forward into a hole is what it does

    • @zedwalker
      @zedwalker 6 месяцев назад +238

      @@roguegamer8568 Are you trying to justify violent crimes?

    • @bbrriaaanna
      @bbrriaaanna 5 месяцев назад

      I'm sorry is anger not an emotion anymore? men are so quick to call women emotional for crying and having normal feelings but turn around and get angry when a girl rejects them. I learned all the different emotions in 1st grade bro@@roguegamer8568

  • @cookie_monster783
    @cookie_monster783 3 месяца назад +1385

    „Asking for a kiss ruins the romance“ „consent isn’t clear for example if they’re drunk“ WHAT💀somebody check this guys computer 😭

    • @yoshiii561
      @yoshiii561 Месяц назад +15

      HELPP

    • @yoshiii561
      @yoshiii561 Месяц назад +28

      Like, what if that person doesn't want to be kissed?! That's gonna be even worse ☠️

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun Месяц назад +15

      Brother needs help fr.

    • @Banned4Life
      @Banned4Life Месяц назад +7

      Haven't seen the part if the video yet, but drunken consent can very much be a gray area. By varying degrees of legislature, one can claim not to be able to give consent when inebriated, even though you can be enthusiastically consenting at the time.

    • @zehro1571
      @zehro1571 Месяц назад +10

      its says it one the bottle "drink responsibly" why are we treating adults like children if you are putting yourself in dangerous situation why play victim?

  • @symlees3357
    @symlees3357 3 месяца назад +830

    "They're not telling them that, they're validating the fact that it's the reality." Bro cooked hard w that one

    • @PinkFlufyyUnicorn
      @PinkFlufyyUnicorn 2 месяца назад +45

      They had to stop the scene after that because of how he gagged everyone💀

    • @zackwaffles
      @zackwaffles День назад

      He literally just restated what the dude said but just in his own words it was probably actually stopped because the conversation probably went south from there and not productive

    • @Awemanherewego
      @Awemanherewego 15 часов назад

      The lack of testosterone in this room is Is A problem.

  • @austino.674
    @austino.674 Год назад +72990

    Having a female moderator was a solid move.

    • @Diadin22
      @Diadin22 Год назад +863

      Neutral would've been the solid move but nice try. Sorry to clarify I mean neutral as in not for or against feminism.

    • @BernieSanders-bn5dk
      @BernieSanders-bn5dk Год назад +459

      @@tristanne9262 Lol It made sense if you feel some type of way it proves your bias against debate

    • @friday13michael
      @friday13michael Год назад +57

      Gender matters.

    • @BernieSanders-bn5dk
      @BernieSanders-bn5dk Год назад +246

      @@tristanne9262 🤔 I wonder what you think you did, I wasn’t mad simply stating their obvious signs of a bias.

    • @virgodem
      @virgodem Год назад

      @@tristanne9262If you think she was neutral, just say it. Stop being such a prick about it.

  • @mitchboland9591
    @mitchboland9591 Год назад +86187

    Now I really want to see male feminists and female anti-feminists

  • @thebingus7243
    @thebingus7243 3 месяца назад +584

    no way these dudes are saying that men cant cry and then saying that women are just too emotional.

    • @iamanom
      @iamanom 2 месяца назад +19

      Having maturity is so important. Their thoughts are not well thought through.

    • @urmomma567
      @urmomma567 Месяц назад +2

      i think it was more that women say men can’t cry

    • @iamanom
      @iamanom Месяц назад +19

      In my whole life, I’ve never heard women say this to men. I hear men say this to other men.

    • @dalodulo1373
      @dalodulo1373 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@iamanomI've only heard a few. The rest isn't said with words. It's how people look at you or treat you after.

    • @Bigpotato92
      @Bigpotato92 Месяц назад

      Ikr

  • @ohyechlo
    @ohyechlo Год назад +16339

    ‘women are too emotional’ ‘men should be able to express their emotions’ in the same conversation is INSANE

    • @jacobydove8213
      @jacobydove8213 Год назад +474

      Too be fair, neither of those statements are in direct conflict with one another. So why is it insane?

    • @AndyPotts0
      @AndyPotts0 Год назад +294

      There’s a difference between making rash decisions based on emotion and being able to express your emotion…

    • @1000OtherFoxes
      @1000OtherFoxes Год назад +117

      why is it insane, it's called balance.

    • @cyb3rsvng
      @cyb3rsvng Год назад +896

      @jacoby dove its hypocritical. the stereotype that women are too emotional is often portrayed in a negative light and seen as over dramatic, why are they criticizing women for being 'too emotional' and then going on to say that 'men should be able to express their emotions' when they roll their eyes at women expressing their emotions? it just doesn't add up

    • @may51973
      @may51973 Год назад +436

      The emotional stereotype makes me laugh. Some men think if a woman is angry for instance, she is being hysterical, and if a men is angry.. well is being a men

  • @deannaclayton883
    @deannaclayton883 Год назад +78880

    I died when Tucker said "If I hear one more person use religion as a reason to not give rights to people, I think I'm going to explode"

    • @Johan-di6md
      @Johan-di6md Год назад +7809

      I can relate to his frustration sooo much.

    • @cjbranchett9733
      @cjbranchett9733 Год назад +4175

      I can honestly relate to that quote a lot to be honest. Not everyone has faith or is religious

    • @the_alexicon
      @the_alexicon Год назад +1244

      How do people use religion as a reason not to give rights? Ive encountered more to the contrary tbh

    • @leareed3749
      @leareed3749 Год назад

      @@the_alexicon Iran, Israel, Palestine, The United States, as well as the Western world which was built on the principles of the Catholic Church and Abrahamic religions.... using it to pass laws, etc.... there is SO much evidence of this.. you just gotta look a little harder lol.

    • @dayanaarias1035
      @dayanaarias1035 Год назад +493

      Crazy convenient how they always forget that little part in the constitution

  • @anais.chan_
    @anais.chan_ Месяц назад +227

    Funny how 3 of 4 of the feminists men mentioned in the conversation that they have a woman whereas none of the anti feminist mentioned it. It means what it means 😂

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv Месяц назад +7

      Do you need to have a woman to prove a point? Isn't that sexist.

    • @TheMATHEHOUSE
      @TheMATHEHOUSE Месяц назад

      Says a lot about "being a feminist to get laid part though "😂😂
      Hey, i´m the hope, i got a girlfriend and ain´t no way i follow the stupidest,bitchest and deshonest movement in the modern 21st century.

    • @kyorna
      @kyorna 28 дней назад +54

      @@Vishnuk-fe9iv Nah it's just showing that these people are actually more capable of maintaining a relationship than the anti-feminists due to the fact that they are able to resonate and connect with women based on their beliefs. The anit-feminists have views that most women (who would respect themselves) very obviously don't agree with.

    • @Rhi1231
      @Rhi1231 9 дней назад +4

      not defending the anti-feminists in anyways but Clarkson was in another video representing gay conservatives… i don’t think women are his type

    • @guide3434
      @guide3434 5 дней назад

      @@kyorna they're just beta buxxing. They'll never make women swoon for them like handsome and often mysogynist chads do. Cope

  • @huntersmith4985
    @huntersmith4985 Месяц назад +414

    The fact they barely listened to the female moderator says ALOT

    • @luck3yp0rk93
      @luck3yp0rk93 Месяц назад

      Male moderators have the same problem. Just watch the 2020 presidential debates. Confirmation bias.

    • @sarahko1014
      @sarahko1014 Месяц назад +2

      How did they not lmao

    • @kyorna
      @kyorna 28 дней назад +24

      @@sarahko1014 I'm pretty sure she told them to not talk over each other and a couple mins later they're talking over each other again

    • @sarahko1014
      @sarahko1014 27 дней назад +13

      @@kyorna Yeah but the irony is that the person who listened to the moderator the least was the feminist guy in the orange.

    • @Gannicus006
      @Gannicus006 9 дней назад

      @@sarahko1014 inreality women cant really control men if the men dont want to.and that guy seems like very feminine.

  • @jennie.wx7
    @jennie.wx7 Год назад +5601

    I feel like there were the 4 feminists, 2 anti-feminists, and 2 straight up misogynists

    • @titia6288
      @titia6288 Год назад +149

      exactly

    • @yunidai16
      @yunidai16 Год назад +491

      Ah, yes, the three genders

    • @barbiderka
      @barbiderka Год назад +317

      @SGN Cloverse and Donovan in my opinion

    • @sandra-2043
      @sandra-2043 Год назад +123

      @SGN DONOVAN

    • @TrischaPepper
      @TrischaPepper Год назад +50

      @@yunidai16 the 3 genders 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀

  • @castellongort
    @castellongort 8 месяцев назад +6812

    Donovan is SO EXHAUSTING. I respect his bravery to come on the show without knowing absolutely nothing about anything

    • @rohanshende4338
      @rohanshende4338 8 месяцев назад

      I bet you are a feminist. The bias in your comment speaks.

    • @nthing2write254
      @nthing2write254 7 месяцев назад +380

      Yeah.. but I don't know if I respect that part either, bravery or...um stupidity??

    • @weeeek1933
      @weeeek1933 7 месяцев назад

      Low iq spotted

    • @kiararoland2630
      @kiararoland2630 7 месяцев назад +104

      IM WHEEZING

    • @rebeccajackson4984
      @rebeccajackson4984 7 месяцев назад +138

      He's truly clueless.

  • @drvoos
    @drvoos 2 месяца назад +181

    donovan would be the first person to get the pepper spray in that room

    • @Sahlofolin542
      @Sahlofolin542 3 дня назад

      Why would you pepper spray someone for saying mean stufd

    • @drvoos
      @drvoos День назад +1

      @@Sahlofolin542 congratulations you missed the point of the comment. 🤗 thank you for adding nothing

  • @sparkyblue7016
    @sparkyblue7016 3 месяца назад +1131

    1:18 "women have value from birth"
    Me : Looking intensely at female infanticide rates

  • @ceyking0910
    @ceyking0910 5 месяцев назад +5059

    They way the "anti-feminists" are talking THAT confidently about things they never actively got to experience is crazyyy

    • @VileVendetta
      @VileVendetta 3 месяца назад +183

      You dont have to experience the wage gap to understand the original statistic was intellectually dishonest.

    • @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg
      @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg 3 месяца назад +31

      @@VileVendetta this

    • @roxane9611
      @roxane9611 3 месяца назад +82

      You could say... its... mensplaining 🤭

    • @andromeda9818
      @andromeda9818 3 месяца назад +15

      @@roxane9611 which they denied LMAO

    • @kab9706
      @kab9706 3 месяца назад +1

      Those specific men lack the empathy part of their brain. Point blank. If it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care to understand.

  • @user-mx1us1pj1l
    @user-mx1us1pj1l 10 месяцев назад +8116

    “Patriarchal society is the way society runs best” The Earth is literally DYING 💀💀💀

    • @Jordan-tg4uj
      @Jordan-tg4uj 10 месяцев назад +348

      THISS like there are BIGGER PROBLEMS 😭😭😭

    • @Damadji69
      @Damadji69 10 месяцев назад

      World was better years ago according to you then when men literally traded daughters to maintain peace among their kingdoms.

    • @S0FTW4RE
      @S0FTW4RE 10 месяцев назад +56

      LMAOO IKR

    • @HighlightsCity-us6nw
      @HighlightsCity-us6nw 10 месяцев назад +138

      its better than matriarchal for sure

    • @Sirpopeington
      @Sirpopeington 10 месяцев назад +63

      Dude our society is on its death spiral and you think the degradation of the concept of a patriarchal society isn’t the culprit?

  • @st4rryn7ght
    @st4rryn7ght 2 месяца назад +336

    Donovan needs to go outside and touch the grass fr. Feels like he has never talk with a woman in his whole life

  • @dannielle..
    @dannielle.. 2 месяца назад +156

    Clarkson annoyed me but he ate up the “Women are fit to be president” statement

  • @evagerdes3444
    @evagerdes3444 10 месяцев назад +4427

    “I feel like women are more emotional”
    While the room is filled up with guys yelling and not allowing each other to speak cause theyre mad and emotional.

    • @ROX-gq2mo
      @ROX-gq2mo 10 месяцев назад +205

      fr its exhausting seeing then just yelling but not listening, so inmature tho

    • @insideAdirtyMind
      @insideAdirtyMind 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah, because men think anger and frustration are not emotions, like happyness are not emotions. The majority of men literally behave like todlers, scream and beat up other men or their wives, because they can not control their emotions, but for some reason women are the emotional ones. Just scratch a mans ego a bit and he gets so very emotional, but of course he is not emotional he is controlled while he abuses you and screams at you and If women get angry there is of course no reason for this, because they are just crazy and emotional for no reason

    • @DavidW-ng5zv
      @DavidW-ng5zv 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@insideAdirtyMind, so if men are emotional, what is your solution? Please note that emotions are a bad thing.

    • @britneyvik34
      @britneyvik34 9 месяцев назад +194

      @@DavidW-ng5zvthe solution is to let them be emotional and stop telling women that they are emotional for acting in the same way 😅

    • @turquoisestranger7566
      @turquoisestranger7566 9 месяцев назад +98

      @@DavidW-ng5zvplease note that anger is an emotion.

  • @liliadesouza3597
    @liliadesouza3597 Год назад +28176

    the amount of times feminism is confused with misandry is actually shocking

    • @stephanasstephen3070
      @stephanasstephen3070 Год назад +2081

      Today's feminism don't make feminism different from misandry

    • @deedelta9263
      @deedelta9263 Год назад

      Yeah, some people that identify as feminists are confused themselves

    • @av1935
      @av1935 Год назад +251

      Like it was crazy that it wasnt mentioned once either

    • @anxietina_
      @anxietina_ Год назад +1

      you would be surprised at the amount of self-proclaimed feminists on twitter that proudly call themselves misandrists, as if it's a thing to be proud of. it's sad.

    • @MrNikeNicke
      @MrNikeNicke Год назад +1042

      @Bee "it's not a form of hatred" Bruh Misandry (/mɪˈsændri/) is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men.
      Bigotry usually comes from some sort of hurt, that doesn't make it justified.

  • @elisoukhi4370
    @elisoukhi4370 Месяц назад +93

    A nice example of mansplaining for folks that believe it doesn't exist :
    One time, a guy asked me on Discord how long my period lasted (yeah don't ask why)
    I replied eight days because my period lasts longer than the norm.
    He then said that I was lying, hence NOT A WOMAN, and proceeded to explain to me how periods and menstrual cycles worked.
    Mansplaining does exist and it's freaking ridiculous to experience lmao

    • @jonathan1869
      @jonathan1869 20 дней назад +8

      I wouldn’t be surprised AT ALL if the mf on discord was either CJ or that Donovan kid

    • @ylly5764
      @ylly5764 13 дней назад

      lol average guy on discord or reddit, wouldnt be suprised if he had a fedora, a double chin, and a neckbeard

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 4 дня назад +1

      Wht? Discord is a platform in which anonymity is practiced. Of course he is going to be skeptical by your answer differing to what he thought was correct.
      If this is mansplaining then I've seen this with women so often.

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 3 дня назад

      Stopped reading the moment you mentioned ''Discord''

    • @MS-je7sn
      @MS-je7sn 2 дня назад +2

      Bro’s traumatic experience was on discord 🤣

  • @zara8253
    @zara8253 3 месяца назад +438

    That boy with glasses - we all know how we feel abt him,as a woman

    • @MrSaxobeat020
      @MrSaxobeat020 2 месяца назад +90

      Not even a female dog will be attracted to it.

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun Месяц назад +39

      Ikr, pathetic.

    • @btsarmyblink3459
      @btsarmyblink3459 Месяц назад

      Gross guy

    • @karmaf2p431
      @karmaf2p431 29 дней назад

      Unfortunately i have figured It out that women attract more to the guy we are talking about, idk why😢​@@MrSaxobeat020

    • @obvi.charlotte_213
      @obvi.charlotte_213 25 дней назад +27

      He’s also like a bit homophobic not gonna lie. When he said that a woman can’t have a child without men like WHAT

  • @omerdanenberg
    @omerdanenberg 6 месяцев назад +5157

    watching this as a woman is an out of body experience tbh

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 месяцев назад +42

      Oh, poor baby. LOL You are so oppressed.

    • @like_grrra
      @like_grrra 6 месяцев назад +399

      @@floydclark6710the football icon tells us all we need to know. thank you for your opinion.

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 месяцев назад +33

      @@like_grrra Yeah. Nobody who is a fan of football could possibly be correct about anything. Well played, ma'am.

    • @like_grrra
      @like_grrra 6 месяцев назад +262

      @@floydclark6710 you didn’t really say anything worth discussing, you just mocked a random woman lmaooo

    • @floydclark6710
      @floydclark6710 6 месяцев назад +13

      @@like_grrra I certainly did mock a random woman. However, I would argue that it is worth discussing why so many women are professional victims in today's Western culture. You're intentionally dodging the issue that I'm mocking.

  • @danktime216
    @danktime216 Год назад +9444

    "Women are emotional being" meanwhile this is Jubilee's most emotionally charged video

    • @huellfring1434
      @huellfring1434 Год назад +82

      If it women it will even more emotional

    • @ap7football933
      @ap7football933 Год назад +88

      It’s an extremely sensitive topic in the present day so doesn’t rlly have anything to do with them being all men. If you think women are not more emotional than men then you’re seriously deluded

    • @ar433new6
      @ar433new6 Год назад +758

      @@huellfring1434 anger is also an emotion btw

    • @t.g.6080
      @t.g.6080 Год назад +583

      @@ap7football933 Men are clearly more emotional. Look at them, they can barely sit and listen to each other. Constant interruptions, barely hearing the others point. Makes sense you’re ‘seriously deluded.’

    • @ap7football933
      @ap7football933 Год назад +46

      @@t.g.6080 😂😂😂😂 you did not just say that, men are more emotional than women? What exactly are you smoking? There’s having an opinion and then just being in straight denial over a blatant fact

  • @srimayeeganesh7295
    @srimayeeganesh7295 2 месяца назад +225

    THE WAY DONAVAN MADE ME SCREAM EVERYTIME HE SPOKE

    • @alia_1lu4vc
      @alia_1lu4vc Месяц назад +11

      AND CJ

    • @BarfilaSabun
      @BarfilaSabun Месяц назад +3

      Ikr...I was going insane listening to him.

    • @quit3584
      @quit3584 16 дней назад +1

      LITERALLY I COULDNT

  • @jasmintea8825
    @jasmintea8825 Месяц назад +83

    The way they complain about all the standards that men have to obtain but in the same breath shame other men if they are more feminine is crazy 💀

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv Месяц назад

      The fact that you whiny women think you're victims but then bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy.

    • @Vishnuk-fe9iv
      @Vishnuk-fe9iv Месяц назад

      The fact that you whiny women act victim but bark mysogny when Men speak up is crazy and hypocrisy.

    • @GMRF1708
      @GMRF1708 6 дней назад +1

      I do not like those standards, but i believe trying to reach them makes me grow

  • @aidenmartinez2541
    @aidenmartinez2541 8 месяцев назад +2206

    “So women can use their face to get on a guy’s yacht?”. “Yeah”. “Does that help then vote?” That convo was insane.😂😂😂😂

    • @EvanLovesYou
      @EvanLovesYou 8 месяцев назад +207

      its insane beacause it had no relavancy

    • @edennara
      @edennara 8 месяцев назад +89

      it was sooo random😭

    • @MothEsque
      @MothEsque 8 месяцев назад +190

      i can see his thought process but i think it came out very wrong lol

    • @indrebutku
      @indrebutku 8 месяцев назад +14

      Only because he thinks men don't do that 😊

    • @rohanshende4338
      @rohanshende4338 7 месяцев назад +16

      @@indrebutku Men actually don't

  • @soundsbeefypops
    @soundsbeefypops Год назад +28502

    Imagine arguing that women shouldn’t be presidents because they are “emotional beings” while also saying that men should be allowed to show their emotions more without judgement from society.

    • @Handymancinema
      @Handymancinema Год назад +101

      so both problems are solved then....

    • @shemgilbert1991
      @shemgilbert1991 Год назад +224

      you say that based on absolutely nothing though. You just made a completely generalized statement based on nothing and applied it to half the population

    • @izzylandyt
      @izzylandyt Год назад +180

      Female Presidents aren’t a new thing.

    • @alexthecreator8380
      @alexthecreator8380 Год назад +569

      maybe he means no one should be president 🤣

    • @duffydope
      @duffydope Год назад +55

      I mean if you are overemotional and someone is emotionless if the emotionless showed more emotion and was still more reasonable you wouldnt choose the woman in this case.

  • @jillm1142
    @jillm1142 3 месяца назад +142

    It's unbelievable that Cloverse used Liz Truss as a negative example and didn't even know what position she held or why she resigned.

    • @VV-bk1wv
      @VV-bk1wv 2 месяца назад

      She resigned because her awful mini budget plunged the nation even further into debt

    • @martiepenick3629
      @martiepenick3629 Месяц назад +25

      And meanwhile, UK had it's longest reigning Queen who got the throne because her uncle abdicated

    • @victoriagarces1998
      @victoriagarces1998 26 дней назад +8

      @@martiepenick3629they don’t wanna acknowledge though. Misogyny at its finest

    • @knytt
      @knytt 12 дней назад +4

      confusing UK with London was a great touch

    • @cookie-hz9fx
      @cookie-hz9fx 20 часов назад

      Bro totally ignored the existence of Margaret Thatcher

  • @kamrunnaharkeya9043
    @kamrunnaharkeya9043 Месяц назад +139

    Donovan is never getting a girlfriend.

  • @Lucas_Ficz
    @Lucas_Ficz 8 месяцев назад +3696

    Donovan is the type of person that humanity fought against for nearly all its existence

    • @mcn_o1
      @mcn_o1 7 месяцев назад

      Naah. Humanity has actually shunned the pussified men like the feminist ones on here. Societies have fallen because of these men. Weak men were always faught against

    • @stephensharper4312
      @stephensharper4312 7 месяцев назад +26

      In other words you flunked out of school

    • @MinisDunyasi5
      @MinisDunyasi5 7 месяцев назад +62

      @@stephensharper4312What do you mean?

    • @stephensharper4312
      @stephensharper4312 7 месяцев назад

      The statement is completely nonsensical. Humanity has not fought against a type of person...ever. That's just not how it works at all. Any discipline in school should make that assessment impossible as there are no grounds to back it up. History isn't some comic book publication with archetypical villains. @@MinisDunyasi5

    • @chalabianadji8430
      @chalabianadji8430 7 месяцев назад +10

      LMAO made me laugh fr 😂

  • @eggypeggy9384
    @eggypeggy9384 Год назад +10292

    kevin came, spoke respectfully, didn’t speak over others and listened. i am kevins biggest fan. what a sweet person

    • @amberlita
      @amberlita Год назад +342

      Yeah he nailed it. I was consistently impressed with his responses.

    • @prazynagc7645
      @prazynagc7645 Год назад +316

      i agreed with everything he said. he was quiet throughout but when he spoke, everyone went quiet

    • @luceandmusic
      @luceandmusic Год назад +44

      FACTSSSS

    • @samhayet4286
      @samhayet4286 Год назад +164

      His girlfriend is a very lucky lady! I'm so in love!

    • @richardmyers7847
      @richardmyers7847 Год назад +323

      @@samhayet4286 it's funny Kevin and his group had girlfriends and the anti feminist were single males

  • @mofetoluwadelano9773
    @mofetoluwadelano9773 3 месяца назад +195

    I love how Quinten gags them.

  • @maddygrace17
    @maddygrace17 2 месяца назад +119

    As the mother of a daughter, I am so encouraged to hear half of these men speak (in particular Quinten and Kevin).
    I want to rage puke listening to Donovan.

  • @xe11e
    @xe11e 10 месяцев назад +6383

    Respect for Kevin for staying patient and sharing his opinions calmly

    • @Rennn360
      @Rennn360 10 месяцев назад +14

      Fr

    • @Addison.S_DD
      @Addison.S_DD 9 месяцев назад +122

      Fr he was super respectful for both men and women

    • @user-ws7jx1kg6d
      @user-ws7jx1kg6d 8 месяцев назад +5

      Litterally

    • @lovepeacepatince
      @lovepeacepatince 8 месяцев назад +44

      True feminist

    • @Sojuboy
      @Sojuboy 8 месяцев назад +32

      t’s called being asian and having respectful values. Everyone else thinks just cause they’re louder means that they are correct.

  • @cockroachlover69
    @cockroachlover69 Месяц назад +500

    Guys don't be mean to Donovan, he forgot his brain at home.

    • @darioadaseq
      @darioadaseq Месяц назад +87

      Bold of you to assume he has one

    • @cocou.u3530
      @cocou.u3530 17 дней назад +6

      @@darioadaseqthis

    • @GraceGilstrap
      @GraceGilstrap 14 дней назад +1

      @@darioadaseqLOLLL

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 2 дня назад

      That’s kinda racist

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 2 дня назад +1

      Kinda racist picking on him for his ethnicity

  • @marissawright7084
    @marissawright7084 10 месяцев назад +7444

    CJ: "It's a shame that the world is so black and white"
    Also CJ: "Men are supposed to protect and women are supposed to raise children"

    • @dsp4392
      @dsp4392 10 месяцев назад +454

      CJ is like an off-brand Andrew Tate.

    • @nathangaspacio6128
      @nathangaspacio6128 10 месяцев назад +80

      @@dsp4392 he looks like if andrew tatee didnt go bald

    • @diamonshade7484
      @diamonshade7484 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@nathangaspacio6128he ain't bald More

    • @willl9046
      @willl9046 9 месяцев назад +200

      CJ is full of contradictions. He kept saying that he isn’t a victim and isn’t oppressed but also he feels that men suffer under feminism. Like which one is it?

    • @jtc1ra
      @jtc1ra 9 месяцев назад +7

      PragerU hires their bests...

  • @Jajajajajaja08
    @Jajajajajaja08 Месяц назад +47

    Three claps to Quinten for being clear, reasonable, and standing up for himself when others tried to interrupt, yet letting them talk too 👏👏👏

  • @jessicanguyen3294
    @jessicanguyen3294 Месяц назад +35

    the dude who actually refused to get interrupted, props to u

  • @gvshe996
    @gvshe996 4 месяца назад +4482

    As a woman, the amount of times i had to pause this video just to take a deep breath is insane!

    • @Sherryryr
      @Sherryryr 4 месяца назад +56

      THIS

    • @xerxerxo0384
      @xerxerxo0384 4 месяца назад +1

      What a wuss

    • @whyareusoannoying2823
      @whyareusoannoying2823 4 месяца назад +86

      And what triggered me is the most is that is the abortion topic.Because I don't think there is no wrong reason to abort because it could have the environment or health reasons.

    • @jwgkouseband4146
      @jwgkouseband4146 4 месяца назад +18

      Huh? why does one get out of breath from watching a video.

    • @sofiaruiz6433
      @sofiaruiz6433 4 месяца назад +32

      @@jwgkouseband4146​​⁠not out of breath. Yk after a long day of work you get home and just take a breath and sigh? That’s what they’re talking about. Perhaps this person is angry or sad about a few of those men’s opinions about the topic that it becomes frustrating for some people to watch as people have the whole idea of a topic that is about them(this person is a woman as stated) is wrong.

  • @ronaldijuarez2819
    @ronaldijuarez2819 9 месяцев назад +5246

    “If a woman feels intimated it’s on her” THATS CRAZY how do you even say that and full heartedly agree with that statement😭

    • @heffsi
      @heffsi 9 месяцев назад +134

      What IS wrong with that? Its the Woman that decides to ASK for a raise. If she isnt confident enough she will earn less. Life isnt fair

    • @aishwaryap1291
      @aishwaryap1291 9 месяцев назад

      And then they go on to say, men feel intimidated and weak because women are empowered. And it's all women's fault. What a level of hypocrisy!

    • @rosebon9875
      @rosebon9875 9 месяцев назад +355

      @@heffsiBc she gets treated in a way that puts her in a position to be more intimidated than other men?💀

    • @supersonicfan9584
      @supersonicfan9584 9 месяцев назад +72

      ​@@heffsifacts. If feminists want equal rights, they should also have equal responsibilities

    • @ollehkacb
      @ollehkacb 9 месяцев назад +84

      ​@@rosebon9875fear is subjective.
      Saying hello to someone may intimidate them
      Walking on the same side walk may intimidate them.
      Yes its on the person if they feel fear from potentially innocuous things.

  • @stannmixx
    @stannmixx Месяц назад +28

    Quinten is so real for just saying "hold on" every time someone tried to interrupt him

  • @Bee-hg9qp
    @Bee-hg9qp Месяц назад +66

    “If a woman feels intimidated that’s on her” “feminism makes men feel upset every day!”

  • @mishmarie4170
    @mishmarie4170 6 месяцев назад +8115

    As a woman, I can tell you that I know with confidence who I would feel physically and emotionally safe around and who I would not, from this video.

    • @actinaction
      @actinaction 6 месяцев назад +861

      I love how the antifeminists look exactly how I pictured them to look, would definetely cover my drink when they enter a room...

    • @christian_12346
      @christian_12346 6 месяцев назад +184

      Okay I agree with some of their points but for the most part they were just braindead incels so yeah I would agree.@@actinaction

    • @dodododo6875
      @dodododo6875 6 месяцев назад

      they getting laid huh?

    • @xarkee
      @xarkee 5 месяцев назад +26

      thats so real

    • @eamezcua188
      @eamezcua188 5 месяцев назад +73

      @@actinactionexactly, I agree completely, not so much with the comment previously because I feel like they’re all educated but I feel a lot safer with the anti-feminist than the feminist ngl just because the feminist came out talking more aggressively, unprofessional, kept interrupting and being dismissive with the anti-feminist points while the anti-feminist would actually listen and try to give an actual educated answer. Now I MIGHT JUST BE SAYING THIS BECAUSE I’ve been raised by anti-feminist and been around them more that I can completely understand where they’re coming from

  • @QuinnCBeauty
    @QuinnCBeauty Год назад +6551

    “They are losing their ability to compete in beauty pageants” “oh boy” was my immediate response too like that’s the issues we are facing

    • @Anna-nj7co
      @Anna-nj7co Год назад +703

      As a woman, that truly affects heavily me on a daily basis

    • @madamjuice1000
      @madamjuice1000 Год назад +48

      😭😭😭

    • @Lizanya8
      @Lizanya8 Год назад +54

      No because… 😂😂😂

    • @kyasonkaylor6807
      @kyasonkaylor6807 Год назад

      Pageants objectify women and put women against each other

    • @ragegaze3482
      @ragegaze3482 Год назад +135

      He is talking about trans women, which is a big current issue, because it's slowly taking more opportunities away from women. Nothing else is blatantly taking away womens rights

  • @alejandrarosales7836
    @alejandrarosales7836 2 месяца назад +78

    As women we don't have to be told that we need to be scared to be in a room full men we already are

    • @SparkLabReal
      @SparkLabReal Месяц назад

      well that's incredibly sexist and pathetic of you, congratulations!

    • @katrin_quinn
      @katrin_quinn 8 дней назад

      That's what i was thinking, if I'm in a room with just men(especially if don't them) i will feel uncomfortable

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 4 дня назад +1

      Thts an irrational fear

    • @katrin_quinn
      @katrin_quinn День назад

      @Cherry-pu4mx **that's
      It's not an irrational fear for women trust me

    • @SparkLabReal
      @SparkLabReal День назад

      @@katrin_quinn it is an irrational fear.

  • @gabrielauharcekova8489
    @gabrielauharcekova8489 2 месяца назад +49

    "Mansplaining is not real" was a great example of mansplaining tbh

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 7 дней назад

      This😂😂

    • @Cherry-pu4mx
      @Cherry-pu4mx 4 дня назад

      This can apply to women then too lol

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 3 дня назад

      @@Cherry-pu4mx women don’t pretend like they are better and know everything… we just chill and live our lives

    • @TheLordoftheDarkness
      @TheLordoftheDarkness День назад

      @@ezra8545Men don't do that either but we try to provide input with whatever we can. That's called "trying to be helpful".

  • @seloschxd7194
    @seloschxd7194 Год назад +5714

    "when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
    - Franklin Leonard

  • @t.olofsson9020
    @t.olofsson9020 7 месяцев назад +5369

    Being a woman and listening to all these random men put words in our mouths about how we feel, think etc… Is really weird and uncomfortable for some reason

    • @bor3db625
      @bor3db625 7 месяцев назад +168

      i think its hilarious honestly

    • @Bleyk01
      @Bleyk01 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah no one asked you dishwasher

    • @maas5307
      @maas5307 7 месяцев назад +232

      they think they can speak for us which is disgusting

    • @joyxiuee
      @joyxiuee 7 месяцев назад +34

      Its taste awful😂

    • @Loren-fo3wm
      @Loren-fo3wm 7 месяцев назад +50

      yeah this video made my stomach hurt a little bit

  • @alinazn4717
    @alinazn4717 Месяц назад +37

    Love the way how calm Kevin talks about these topics and is chilling the atmosphere down. That makes his saying so much more powerful and rememberable. Also love how precise Quinten can describe his thoughts, so a lot of people can easily understand his points.

  • @desireeperham7093
    @desireeperham7093 Месяц назад +28

    False accusation rate for rape is around 3-7%. Rate of NOT REPORTING RAPE AT ALL is 89%

  • @user-zn8nf6mb8f
    @user-zn8nf6mb8f 9 месяцев назад +3129

    the amount of times feminism is confused with misandry is actually shocking. The zoom ins on Quinten’s face was comedic gold.

    • @riven4121
      @riven4121 9 месяцев назад +135

      Probably wouldn't happen if there weren't numerous examples of feminist misandry

    • @krishnamurthym595
      @krishnamurthym595 8 месяцев назад +28

      yeah copy two comments and combine them into one for internet karma

    • @riven4121
      @riven4121 8 месяцев назад +22

      @@marinaaa893 No true scotsman fallacy. If misandry within feminism wasn't a thing, Erin Pizzey would not have experienced what she did, nor would the duluth model have been pushed into legislation nor would the grievance studies affair occur.

    • @ghadeer9668
      @ghadeer9668 8 месяцев назад +9

      There's no such a thing as misandry

    • @Future183
      @Future183 8 месяцев назад +29

      Bruh nothing against the amount of times masculinity is confused with misogyny lmao

  • @mik1902
    @mik1902 Год назад +6751

    The way my jaw just dropped when that one guy didn’t believe women should be financially independent from men. Oh my gosh.

    • @mik1902
      @mik1902 Год назад +327

      And his reasoning….. ayayaye 🤦‍♀️

    • @jenniferromero571
      @jenniferromero571 Год назад +14

      What does it matter.

    • @owen3721
      @owen3721 Год назад

      He was the only truly reactionary person there. The other "antifeminists" are just against feminist terminology like "toxic masculinity," "mansplaining," etc. Donovan is the only one who is a true koolaid-drinking traditionalist.

    • @0doublezero0
      @0doublezero0 Год назад +44

      And plenty of feminist women who don't want men to be househusbands.

    • @hanashin7077
      @hanashin7077 Год назад +193

      @@0doublezero0 What? Excuse me? Give me evidence, please. I'll fight you with evidence of the opposite side back!

  • @marloesk9753
    @marloesk9753 2 месяца назад +90

    not all feminist are antimen, only the extremists. there are extremists in every movement

    • @unkownnameless2699
      @unkownnameless2699 Месяц назад

      Feminism is anti male ideologically, by saying women are oppressed and men are privileged when it's completely the other way around

    • @Lilac_166
      @Lilac_166 13 дней назад

      Louder boy🎉

    • @redpanther9380
      @redpanther9380 10 дней назад

      90 percent of them are

  • @tylinious
    @tylinious 24 дня назад +12

    "I cant think of any other reason than to get laid..." wow imagine not being able to wrap your head around empathy.

  • @stephanychang6749
    @stephanychang6749 Год назад +4883

    “Period pain is exaggerated” topic was hilarious. Im glad no one came forward 😂

    • @TedEhioghae
      @TedEhioghae Год назад +36

      Talking about eating icecream when you have period is cringe.

    • @mimo5853
      @mimo5853 Год назад +52

      But I bet if there was a group of women and the prompt was “Do you think men over exaggerate pain when they are hit/kicked in the balls?” every women would have stepped forward.

    • @kalyani5526
      @kalyani5526 Год назад +292

      @@mimo5853 bet away. Nobody really cares about thoughts here

    • @mariunfabregas7533
      @mariunfabregas7533 Год назад +585

      @@mimo5853 not you comparing period pains to getting kicked in the balls as if getting kicked in the balls is a regular, monthly occurance😭

    • @lemoineau2317
      @lemoineau2317 Год назад +89

      @@mariunfabregas7533 And in some cultures, an occurance that is shamed upon

  • @la1z33
    @la1z33 6 месяцев назад +2344

    that antifeminist saying "don't have sex without protection" if you don't want a baby... i hate that nobody mentioned the topic of r4pe and the fact that protection isn't even completely foolproof.

    • @jwgkouseband4146
      @jwgkouseband4146 4 месяца назад +81

      Less than 1% of abortions come from rape. I do get your point, but it is not really valid to base your opinion about abortions with SA cases.

    • @RED-9936
      @RED-9936 4 месяца назад

      @@jwgkouseband4146 and most most rape is because these women go out to clubs with strangers who are drunk and maybe horney.

    • @manofyourdreams129
      @manofyourdreams129 4 месяца назад +65

      @@jwgkouseband4146 why? its still existent so u can base ur opinion on that

    • @LightAndShaddow5
      @LightAndShaddow5 4 месяца назад

      @@manofyourdreams129
      Because it’d eliminate around 99% of abortions.

    • @ZipMapp
      @ZipMapp 4 месяца назад

      Contraception is 100% unless you're a moron and producers write 99% to have an escape route from lawsuits in case consumers are absolute morons. Sperm can't go around a condom if it doesn't break, the pill indeed prevents ovocytes from being feconsated. R4pe is the exception not the norm among unwsnted pregnancies so your point is moot. No one is arguing to force you to keep your r4pists baby.

  • @loydpike8528
    @loydpike8528 Месяц назад +21

    The fact that those two dudes stood there at the president prompt. Thats crazy!

  • @Jody577
    @Jody577 Месяц назад +26

    “When a girl is crying, they’re a princess and they’re given the world.” Ok bro. Ok 💀

    • @comentaristametaforico9287
      @comentaristametaforico9287 Месяц назад +6

      Where's the lie?

    • @Jody577
      @Jody577 Месяц назад +5

      @@comentaristametaforico9287 Your mom saying she loves you

    • @fatimamona2297
      @fatimamona2297 7 дней назад +1

      Same guy mocking women for being "emotional"

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 7 дней назад

      @@comentaristametaforico9287in front of me …

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 2 дня назад

      Society doesn’t rlly care about men’s struggles so he’s not wrong

  • @robinfox4440
    @robinfox4440 Год назад +8672

    I hate discussions like this because of the self-righteousness and anger that overrides people's ability to listen. This is the perfect example of "most people don't listen to understand; they listen to reply."

    • @ysgslime8251
      @ysgslime8251 Год назад +49

      Very true

    • @NA-ud6qm
      @NA-ud6qm Год назад +140

      I agree 100%. But it did feel like both sides were listening too each other.

    • @nothanks1239
      @nothanks1239 Год назад +104

      Agree. I usually click on these videos and just read the comments. It's too frustrating to listen to people not listening.

    • @user-pi2wr8pz1t
      @user-pi2wr8pz1t Год назад +2

      I was just thinking that

    • @alexgarcia1801
      @alexgarcia1801 Год назад +3

      beautifully said.

  • @pinkishlyshy__8191
    @pinkishlyshy__8191 Год назад +9813

    The fact that between anti feminists and feminists, they can all agree that period pain isn’t exaggerated because they know for a fact they can’t say anything on that because they simply don’t experience it, is lovely.

    • @coinedartist9893
      @coinedartist9893 Год назад +1735

      @@RetroMamba that is not something ANYWHERE close to period pain... why are you comparing the two?

    • @rose-rv5yz
      @rose-rv5yz Год назад +556

      @@RetroMamba there two different things

    • @pikasoccer
      @pikasoccer Год назад

      @@RetroMamba are you admitting to rape online sir?

    • @ravenscalls
      @ravenscalls Год назад +158

      @@RetroMamba yep totally the same thing

    • @Austrian_Painter.7
      @Austrian_Painter.7 Год назад +31

      @@coinedartist9893 You have no idea whamen

  • @sharkie_5
    @sharkie_5 Месяц назад +25

    As a female, I am in shock💀

    • @ezra8545
      @ezra8545 7 дней назад

      I never knew men where so emotional… as a women I just life my life and then there is this

  • @lynnielie8312
    @lynnielie8312 3 месяца назад +34

    ‘It is a life at birth’ when he meant to say conception 😂😂 Freudian slip of I’ve ever heard one BAHA

  • @aubriewaffle9747
    @aubriewaffle9747 Год назад +4309

    I'm extremely concerned for whoever ends up having Donovan as their partner

    • @madisonworkman9187
      @madisonworkman9187 Год назад +863

      Do you actually think that will happen in this lifetime

    • @susanaavv
      @susanaavv Год назад +525

      I think he’ll be single for life 😂

    • @madisonworkman9187
      @madisonworkman9187 Год назад +486

      @@susanaavv he gives conversion camp graduate to me, so religiously manipulated

    • @shamedisgust2374
      @shamedisgust2374 Год назад +99

      Quinten was super annoying and so were all the anti feminists.

    • @Scar-jg4bn
      @Scar-jg4bn Год назад +1

      He ain't gonna get a woman unless he gets an arranged marriage, lmao. He shouldn't reproduce.

  • @iggyAmazing
    @iggyAmazing Год назад +4022

    "if a woman feels intimidated, that's on her" was my breaking point this video

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 Год назад +199

      Its true though. You can feel any certain way about whatever. It's not everyone else's job to make sure that you aren't offended all the time

    • @butchcoolidge2533
      @butchcoolidge2533 Год назад +930

      @@datsko6339 offended and intimidated are two very different words, my dude. If people feel intimidated around you, that's 100% on you and not them. Sorry!

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 Год назад +125

      @@butchcoolidge2533 no. If you are trying to be intimidating, that’s on you. If you are intimidated, that’s also on you

    • @butchcoolidge2533
      @butchcoolidge2533 Год назад +362

      @@datsko6339 I don't understand how that makes sense to you at all lmao. If someone is beating you for no reason, is getting beaten up on you too? Bizarre way of thinking

    • @datsko6339
      @datsko6339 Год назад +108

      @@butchcoolidge2533 that’s completely different. If you are intimidated by someone who isn’t trying to be intimidating, that’s on you. That’s not the other person’s fault.

  • @user-lw7jg7cq1t
    @user-lw7jg7cq1t Месяц назад +37

    As a women, the way that some of these guys were talking is actually terrifying. Anytime CJ spoke all I heard was “it doesn’t exist” mansplaining, patriarchy, the pay gap, and being a victim. Like- WHAT? and anytime Donovan spoke I wanted to light myself on fire ISTG. Thank goddess that Kevin, Josh, Quienten, and Tucker were there other wise Id be in a psych ward

    • @alia_1lu4vc
      @alia_1lu4vc Месяц назад +1

      YES their actually so uneducated it's insane

  • @andrewmelvin3193
    @andrewmelvin3193 Месяц назад +37

    I would urge anyone that’s unsure on the issue of abortion, to research Jen Pepples on this.
    ‘Consent to having sex is not consent to becoming pregnant, and consent to becoming pregnant is not consent to remaining pregnant’
    Her and Tracie Harris explain this perfectly 👌

  • @alexandraahlen2201
    @alexandraahlen2201 Год назад +8813

    Anyone noticed how when Kevin (the guy on the feminist-side with a black and white jacket) spoke, everyone just stopped and listened without interrupting him? He was so calm so that when he spoke, nobody felt the need to cut him off or anything like that. That guy is a perfect example of why staying calm is the way to win an argument, every single time.

    • @Fernanda-vq8pq
      @Fernanda-vq8pq Год назад +62

      yess!!

    • @CalmInTheMidstOfChaos
      @CalmInTheMidstOfChaos Год назад +366

      The softest spoken person in the room is always the most powerful.

    • @markrojo9099
      @markrojo9099 Год назад +212

      hes fine asf LMAOSOAO

    • @robinfox4440
      @robinfox4440 Год назад

      Feminists are usually the ones who get angry and cut you off when arguing with them, no matter how calmly you point something out. It's impossible to argue with ideologues.

    • @laurelleparsonage689
      @laurelleparsonage689 Год назад +1

      @@CalmInTheMidstOfChaos unless your a woman cuz then you are scientifically more likely to get spoken over or interpreted

  • @martinbuhrer3893
    @martinbuhrer3893 10 месяцев назад +4210

    Anytime Donovan opens his mouth, you can practically see Tucker screaming inside. I can relate to that feeling big time.

    • @mamacitawiam
      @mamacitawiam 9 месяцев назад +44

      He's insecure

    • @nachopatel4634
      @nachopatel4634 8 месяцев назад +142

      Donovan needs help lol

    • @gennakale
      @gennakale 8 месяцев назад

      he is so contradictory in his own opinions, his points are held together with a thread of string. @@nachopatel4634

    • @eplcmeme420
      @eplcmeme420 8 месяцев назад

      Same fr, Donovan is so damn punchable

    • @selilox
      @selilox 8 месяцев назад +9

      its so clear hes a sexist with some sort of victim complex. hard watch whenever he speaks icl.

  • @arrrrrrarararar5151
    @arrrrrrarararar5151 2 месяца назад +12

    "the easiest way to spot the smartest person in the room is to see who is the most quiet person" - someone smart

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. Месяц назад +3

      "It's better to remain quiet and have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt." - a misquote of a quote attributed to either Einstein or Twain I forget

  • @laurenkam2304
    @laurenkam2304 2 месяца назад +20

    I don’t know why I voluntarily watched this… I’ll just be laying in bed angry tonight I guess

    • @Zyrock
      @Zyrock 2 дня назад

      It’s healthy to see diff perspectives

  • @sonyawix5871
    @sonyawix5871 6 месяцев назад +3224

    Kevin is so incredibly mindful and thoughtful, and his overall demeanor is just reassuring.

  • @e.mariannem1640
    @e.mariannem1640 4 месяца назад +1456

    Tucker replying with "are you aware of all of history" is the highlight of this whole episode

    • @williamg780
      @williamg780 2 месяца назад +23

      As a history major I laughed so hard lol

  • @milkycloud.
    @milkycloud. 29 дней назад +9

    KEVIN IS SO WELL-SPOKEN AND CALM.

  • @EH-zo9cf
    @EH-zo9cf 2 месяца назад +8

    I’ve been following Clarkson on Instagram for a couple years now and I love how middle ground he is on a lot of things, how he’s a free thinker who has his own independent views on things but is still brutally honest with his unpopular opinions. I am happy to see that his middle grounded-ness was on display in the debate as well.

  • @ErBeary
    @ErBeary Год назад +2665

    "Period pain is exaggerated" *pin drops* lmao Loved that. Smart men for not stepping forward for that one.

    • @un_real9971
      @un_real9971 Год назад +399

      Because how can you say something is exaggerated when you yourself have never experienced it.

    • @ErBeary
      @ErBeary Год назад +199

      @@un_real9971 Exactly. But you would be surprised at the comments that I have heard from men about period pain and even childbirth.

    • @gagol8833
      @gagol8833 Год назад +6

      @@un_real9971 kick in ball is more hurtful for ur information

    • @nevv343
      @nevv343 Год назад

      @@gagol8833 have u had a period? silly it’s every month for 7 days. does u get kicked in the balls every months for 7 days straight ? if u r get help

    • @thinkabtloona
      @thinkabtloona Год назад +28

      @@gagol8833 it is NOT..

  • @penthousewhippit
    @penthousewhippit Год назад +4361

    It's so crazy to me how many men say that women are more emotional but also feel so emasculated by everything. Just because you don't realize when emotions aren't affecting you, doesn't mean you're not emotional

    • @zobizobizobi
      @zobizobizobi Год назад +112

      Exactly, it will almost always come out in a maladaptive way if not processed with transparency. So many people seem to struggle to wrap their heads around this.

    • @v.xien.
      @v.xien. Год назад +169

      Men are more emotional and have less self-aware
      edit since people will take this the wrong way: obviously, women TEND to be more emotional yes, but I am replying to what OP said, in the way men often do not realize they are projecting and using internal emotional bias while thinking they are stoic lol. Women are more likely to know they are emotional, while men are not. Hence the lack of self-awareness.

    • @sr.mental5876
      @sr.mental5876 Год назад

      @@v.xien. The chemicals in the water are turning the males into sissies.

    • @zobizobizobi
      @zobizobizobi Год назад +15

      I’ll add - in my
      Opinion inherently this isn’t something to ridicule anyone for, it’s a result of conditioning over a long period I think. But I think there comes a time where people should not think they’re exempt from embracing their emotions because it makes them any less ‘manly’. I think that’s where some pride and toxicity comes in but I just don’t really understand what is shameful about emotions. I think what they take to be ‘male traits’ like being courageous and powerful for example is actually synonymous with taking stock of your emotions and tackling them with acceptance and learning rather than maladaptive coping such as violence or substance abuse. Or even just bitterness or arrogance. Which is what many people seem to have.

    • @minglou2019
      @minglou2019 Год назад

      That's not even the point. It was scientifically proven that males and females are intellectually equal. The only reason men seem more violent or women seem more emotional is purely the patriarchy

  • @nitimaarora9925
    @nitimaarora9925 6 дней назад +3

    I love how confused and disgusted the feminists were whenever the anti-feminists were speaking 💀💀

  • @thelifeless1013
    @thelifeless1013 28 дней назад +11

    36:42 They skipped over the fact that COMPANIES SHOULDN’T BE OFFERING A DIFFERENT WAGE FROM THE START!

  • @gabriellecollier6235
    @gabriellecollier6235 Год назад +2846

    Nobody says nothing back to Kevin cause he’s so calm and has amazing responses, props to him.

    • @danimotherofchickens479
      @danimotherofchickens479 Год назад +7

      Is he the patriarchy guy? Cause it was just because he sounded brain washed

    • @gaceofspades
      @gaceofspades Год назад +26

      @@danimotherofchickens479 he is the one in the flannel thing

    • @brinsley4599
      @brinsley4599 Год назад +40

      Kevin really was amazing, totally impressed me

    • @hollywoodsdeadd
      @hollywoodsdeadd Год назад +12

      @@danimotherofchickens479 Lol… ok girl

    • @sankofax8082
      @sankofax8082 Год назад +4

      or cause the anti-feminist part is more listening

  • @lizzyleefree1593
    @lizzyleefree1593 Год назад +4393

    What about women who aren't conventionally pretty? What about women over 40? What about women who are infertile? What about women who are neurodivergent? What about women who are in countries where they are still denied education and other basic rights and safety because of their gender? Where does society see their value?

    • @xBrandon888
      @xBrandon888 Год назад

      If you have to resort to intersectional arguments to make a point about feminism you are basically proving that men and women are already equal.

    • @okaydokay9379
      @okaydokay9379 Год назад +63

      I think they mean most women in their prime can have it easy in life when it comes to opportunities and such just by being in their prime. I believe we should fight for human rights but I also see where they’re coming from.

    • @melvinnunez3930
      @melvinnunez3930 Год назад +36

      What about people...

    • @g.b.8041
      @g.b.8041 Год назад +87

      Some of them can barely handle a discussion about basic rights 💀 You’r asking too much lol

    • @nola7921
      @nola7921 Год назад +18

      Say it QUEEN speak 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @novasmit1701
    @novasmit1701 6 дней назад +3

    The thing I loved the most was that whenever Kevin spoke, everyone in the room was in complete silence

  • @invaderzim1031
    @invaderzim1031 2 месяца назад +12

    im cryinggg at the close up of quintons face at 16:33 at donovan's yap cause i had the same reaction lolll

  • @lisbel877
    @lisbel877 5 месяцев назад +2286

    Donavan saying that asking for consent some how takes away from the romantics is wild and concerning

    • @EvictJr
      @EvictJr 4 месяца назад

      no not really. thats some loser a55 behavior. can i kiss u?? HAHAHA

    • @missionpossible00
      @missionpossible00 4 месяца назад +1

      @@EvictJr 🙄

    • @sikerimlidl
      @sikerimlidl 4 месяца назад +18

      Thats true tho from what I've seen and heard from women. Better? Yes. More romantic? No

    • @amandazou8397
      @amandazou8397 4 месяца назад +114

      @@sikerimlidlgenerally you’d probably want to ask before performing an intimate action with someone. I don’t know what you’ve heard but not every woman is gonna like that.

    • @Hirabeatz
      @Hirabeatz 4 месяца назад +46

      @@sikerimlidlno tf 😭😭

  • @ShootyMcBirb
    @ShootyMcBirb Год назад +5347

    I can't describe how happy I was when no one stepped out on the ''period pain is over-exaggerated''

    • @skylerbarrett2931
      @skylerbarrett2931 Год назад +482

      Bare minimum.

    • @makesmewannadie647
      @makesmewannadie647 Год назад +18

      Oh yeah

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls Год назад +131

      I mean it's not like anyone there could answer either way, so them not stepping out doesn't mean they disagree. They have no way to know. In fact, no woman can answer that either. You can only feel your own pain.

    • @ShootyMcBirb
      @ShootyMcBirb Год назад +52

      @@Hector-bj3ls i get really bad cramps. I cannot function with them on the first day (they usually disappear after the third day for me), I know some boys who just bully girls when they ask for some pain killers.

    • @Hector-bj3ls
      @Hector-bj3ls Год назад +33

      @@ShootyMcBirb Well those boys are assholes then. If my wife claims she's in pain then I'm inclined to believe her and do my best to find some way to relieve it. I don't know if she's telling the truth or not, but I give her the benefit of the doubt.
      If some random woman tells me she's in pain then I will say something like "sorry to hear that", but that's about it. I have no obligation to help her. Again, I don't know if she really is in pain or not, but it's nothing to do with me and I'll leave her to it. Unless there is clearly something very wrong. In which case I'd call an ambulance or something.

  • @BrookeONeill-qt1rh
    @BrookeONeill-qt1rh Месяц назад +7

    i love quinten going the "hold on, hold on" as people try to interrupt him. say your part king. don't let them do that to you.

  • @superchef_trades4213
    @superchef_trades4213 24 дня назад +5

    Lmao the moderator bossing them around 🤣🤣🤣 she’s honestly doing a wonderful job

  • @chu2fan729
    @chu2fan729 Год назад +996

    None of y’all have any idea how many times I paused this just to argue by myself

  • @mrs.squarepants2868
    @mrs.squarepants2868 4 месяца назад +1636

    Thank you Jubilee for giving me an idea about who I should stay away from

    • @13ethirteeni
      @13ethirteeni 4 месяца назад +2

      Who?

    • @Juicegoat_
      @Juicegoat_ 3 месяца назад +10

      Just remember these are ideas. Just because they may express a view that you may not enjoy doesn't retract that they are people who may be nicer than you may believe.

    • @ame2395
      @ame2395 3 месяца назад +62

      @@Juicegoat_ if they think that we are innately weaker than them and have life perfect, then i dont want them to downplay my feelings and emotions as "woman weakness". politics DEFINE PEOPLE

    • @mrs.squarepants2868
      @mrs.squarepants2868 3 месяца назад +31

      @@Juicegoat_ Well these ideas are what shape their personalities so there's no going around it.

    • @LookItsDev
      @LookItsDev 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@ame2395 Weaker how though? Physically it’s obvious women are weaker than men. Emotionally, women are stronger than men. We are just different.

  • @shariqnadeem9134
    @shariqnadeem9134 Месяц назад +9

    I’ll always have 911 on speed dial around Donovan

  • @user-nh1dj6co4p
    @user-nh1dj6co4p 3 месяца назад +9

    some of the answers literally had me in tears of sadness because of the ignorance and lack of knowledge some of them had

  • @ambercherise2391
    @ambercherise2391 Год назад +4256

    Kevin reminds me of my dad: he doesn’t have to dominate conversation, he listens intently, but when he DOES speak, he spits facts. How respectful.
    EDIT: Thanks for the likes!

    • @aaronaguayo4766
      @aaronaguayo4766 Год назад +40

      he did not speak facts 😂

    • @pc_hmk2204
      @pc_hmk2204 Год назад +117

      ​@@aaronaguayo4766 maybe he did not speak facts that you wanted to listen. 😂😂😂

    • @cam_br0wn426
      @cam_br0wn426 Год назад +13

      @@pc_hmk2204 he didn’t speak facts. he couldn’t define anything he spoke on, he literally is like a figurehead that’s speaks on what he’s seen other radical feminist say.

    • @astelineart2260
      @astelineart2260 Год назад +40

      @@cam_br0wn426 Crazy concept that you surround yourself with people you agree with

    • @KmiiVC
      @KmiiVC Год назад +8

      your dad is a great guy

  • @shaybearden9438
    @shaybearden9438 8 месяцев назад +1296

    Im not done with the video yet, but so far I really appreciate how the feminist men don’t seem like typical “nice guys” they seem much more genuine in their feminism.

    • @edvh88
      @edvh88 8 месяцев назад +65

      Yes, and several of them have women partners!

    • @InChristWeTrust999
      @InChristWeTrust999 7 месяцев назад +5

      The two more reserved men seem like nice people, but the other two men wearing orange sweatshirts are absolutely insufferable.

    • @jkn111111
      @jkn111111 7 месяцев назад +6

      This is a joke right….

    • @user-tl1vl9vw9l
      @user-tl1vl9vw9l 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@jkn111111no?? why would it be??

    • @musicplug1730
      @musicplug1730 Месяц назад

      @@user-tl1vl9vw9lcause all the feminist men seem very feminine themselves. They act like women can do no wrong the antifeminist side was a more realistic

  • @tedimihailova6404
    @tedimihailova6404 Месяц назад +21

    12:45 “I promise you if you did that it would be just fine” cracked me up, bro dropped the hardest line, proved his point and ended the conversation in one sentence

  • @Cookie4gnf
    @Cookie4gnf Месяц назад +7

    With the abortion, they’re acting like it always has to be because of accidental pregnancies. What if the woman wanted a kid, but it’d be life threatening to her? She has to go through with it and not only put herself in danger, but also the kid you so deeply care about? The way they’re immediately prioritising the fetus over a grown person is crazy