A couple.... a couple of BESTIES!!! FIRST TIME WATCHING **500 DAYS OF SUMMER** + POST-ANALYSIS
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When Tom is speaking about what he loves about Summer, he only mentions superficial qualities, such as her eyes and hair, and nothing about her actual personality. Proof that he doesn't see her for who she really is, but as a Manic Pixie Dream Girl.
And then he goes and says that he hates those same qualities after she dumps him 😂
@@SophiaPhannn "I HATE THIS SONG!!" lives rent-free in my head since I 1st watched this film lol
"Just because she likes the same bizarro crap as you do, doesn't make her your soul mate." Baby Chloe Grace Moretz, dispensing the best advice. She's honestly the wisest character, and she's only a preteen.
Truly a queen
He was so immature that he needed the advice of a preteen girl. That showed how immature he was.
I remember watching this as a teenager and siding with Tom, and I think a big part of maturing is when you understand how flawed BOTH of them are and that Tom's behavior is not okay. Also like, the fact he never really listened to her and instead focused only on facets of her that made him feel better about himself. Even right down to him punching the guy in the bar--he didn't react really until the guy started to question why Summer would be with him.
‼️‼️‼️ yes!!! He only punched that guy because he was insulting him 🙄 got his ass kicked “for her” LOOOOOL
"He knows almost immediately she's who he's been searching for." Is such a dead giveaway of what Tom character is like. Summer is pretty, and he decides she is the love of his life based on it. Then she shows one characteristic he likes (liking The Smiths) and he takes it as THE ONLY CONFIRMATION NEEDED that she is the one. Then we get the karaoke scene, where Summer makes her thoughts on relationships crystal clear, and Tom gets very defensive (Summer is a bit dismisive about people who believe in love, but let's be real, Tom is defensive because SHE is the one saying it). From that point on, you can tell he immediately goes "I can fix her". This is one of my favorite movies that deconstruct the Manic Pixie Dream girl archetype, along with Ruby Sparks. Summer IS NOT a MPDG, but Tom SEES her as such. To Tom, Summer appeared in his life to complete him and make him have fun and do "quirky" things. And since he's such an unreliable narrator, we as the audience can fall into that assumption as well. But Summer gets angry, sad, she can be selfish, and she has a whole life we know almost nothing about but we do get TINY glimpses of. She is a complex person, we just don't really get to see her as such because Tom is too busy considering her his soulmate to notice anything but superficial things about her.
ruby sparks is a horror movie i love it so so much
Very neat thing they did with color theory:
Throughout the movie, Summer is the only one wearing the color blue. That's why everyone in the You Make My Dreams Come True is wearing it.
There's a line in the movie I laughed at as a kid when Matthew Gray Gubler's character said his girlfriend was better than the girl of his dreams, she's real. Now I think that line is really sweet~
Yeah out of the things his character said in the movie, I thought that line was sweet too 😂
I couldn’t find it in the reaction did she react to that line or nah? That’s probably my favourite line of the whole movie!
I've actually read the original screenplay for this movie, and in the karaoke scene, Tom goes on about how if you're with the right person, your feelings wouldn't change the next day. You'd just know.
And at the end, on the bench, Summer tells him he was right. Every day she spends with her husband, her feelings never changed.
Fun fact about what actually happened at the end of the Graduate:
The camera was supposed to stop filming when they got on the bus, but it didn't.
That's why the actors faces drop. They didn't know what to do.
I watched this when it first came out in theaters and I am embarrassed to admit that I was one of those people who defended Tom but then Joseph mentioned in an interview that Tom was actually the "bad guy", or so to speak and rewatching it as I've gotten older, I realized just how toxic his mindset actually is. Also, the Expectations vs. Reality is one of my all time favorite movie moments because of how painfully relatable it is. I would also not be opposed for longer post analysis. I was literally nodding along to every word.
I also think a lot of people have been in Tom’s position before, so it hits home too much 🥲
Summer isn’t the villain but she was kinda foul for inviting Tom to the party without explaining it was her engagement party 😂
She said that he hadn’t asked her to marry him until after she invited Tom to the party! But yeah, she definitely should’ve told Tom she was seeing someone at that wedding 💀
They are both normal people with flaws who aren't meant for each other. There's been this wave of hate and blame directed at Tom with most people villainizing him, including Joseph Gordon-Levitt himself. But it's like people completely ignored all of Summer's actions in the film that prove she is neither innocent nor a victim:
1. She knew Tom's romantic belief in love from the get go (same convo when she says she doesn't believe in it).
2. She flirted with him first and initiated the kiss/"relationship.
3. After they got back from the bar where Tom got punched, they had a fight because Summer says they're just friends, but Tom passionately disagrees and states that they are more than friends. He leaves immediately after, but we see that Summer goes to his place in the middle of that same night and the two hug and kiss, etc. without communicating at all about what happened and what their expectations are now. There's no mention of that fight again. This moment is critical because I actually have a theory that it's at this point that Summer does try to be in a romantic relationship with Tom that's more than friends. Although we don't see her POV to confirm this, it makes her crying at the movie theatre and her breaking up with him essentially make sense. However, even if that is Not the case, and it was only a situationship to her even by this point, she still knowingly leads him on. It was a selfish move to keep Tom around for the sake of her wants. Everyone complains that Tom was being selfish for idealizing Summer - which is true - but she was being just as selfish to lead him on especially knowing that he wanted something serious from her.
4. Summer is careless with Tom's feelings throughout the movie tbh. She says that Tom is her best friend and wants to stay friends with him. She greets him with excitement and fondness when they run into each other after the "break-up." She even initiates the dance with him because "she wanted to." She invites him to her party and refrains from telling him she's engaged. She actually never tells him, because we see that Tom only found out when he saw Summer with the guy and noticed the ring on her finger. If you're close with someone and consider them a friend, surely you'd at least have the empathy to let them down gently. She does what she wants even if it will hurt the other person. Now should Tom have been more careful about his feelings? Absolutely. They may not owe each other anything, but I think it's still a gray area. It's like breaking up with someone over post-it. At least have the decency to treat the other person with respect. If you've been in a romantic relationship with someone, considered them your best friend then broke things off with them (even if it's not serious and was a situationship) and saw how hurt they were after that, why would you lead them on again? They talked the whole train ride and then had the whole night of the wedding to catch up, yet she never - not once - mentioned her recent engagement.
Tom is not without his faults as well, but most video essays and comments out there already point those out so I won't here. It's sad to see that he is crucified for idealizing someone though because I think it's common among everyone. Many people idolize celebrities so it's not only a romantic thing. With that said, Tom causes his own pain out of a romantic hopelessness and naivety. But that doesn't make him a bad guy. That makes him human. Just like Summer with her own set of faults. They didn't belong together and that's okay. They were also still young and navigating their lives at the time. That's life. I just wish people would criticize both characters equally and with empathy.
I love that you brought up how Summer is her own person and not just there to be Tom's love interest and had her own thoughts, desires, and feelings Tom just ignores in his pov because it is actually exactly why she's NOT a manic pixie dream girl and that term is kind of misused to describe her just because she's framed as being "quirky". "Manic pixie dream girls" were supposed to just describe female characters with no substance or agency besides to show up and improve the male lead's life through being weird and unpredictable, but it's really not the case for Summer since she has a whole life and character arc outside of Tom. I also always thought her comment "Some people like it" was interesting bc it could be a response for both the "basic" taste Tom criticizes but also her unconventional tastes too.
Someone else also commented that Summer actually wasn’t a manic pixie dream girl, and I agree with all your points!! She really wasn’t, and it’s pretty dismissive of her character to categorize her as such
@@SophiaPhannn It deconstructed it so well, a few years after the MAN who coined the term Manic Pixie Dream Girl, later recanted it!
Sidenote: I believe it exists in media portraying women but does NOT exist in real life. And love your videos!
Hot take: both were wrong in some way
Accurate. Neither is exactly in the right. I don't think I could ever really pick a side
I while some of the characters irk me, I always enjoy seeing these types of movies where it show’s relationships in a complex and real light. The Last 5 Years feels like a musical version of this, would love to see your reaction to it!!
Oooh I actually never seen The Last 5 Years, but I can see the similarities!!
I love this movie. I'm always a little defensive when someone describes Summer as a manic pixie dream girl, cause the whole point if the movie is that they don't exist. Tom wanted a MPDG because he wasn't yet mature enough to understand that they aren't realistic. Summer is quirky and fun, like a MPDG, but unlike them she has faults and is still growing as a person. This is the anti manic pixie dream girl movie.
I watched this movie as a teenage boy & I really appreciated this movie coming out at the time it did because I saw so much of myself in Tom. It really helped me to understand that just because I have feelings or think I have feelings doesn’t mean it’ll work if the person doesn’t feel the same. And it doesn’t make them the bad guy either. Like Tom the second I had my eyes on a girl I was convinced she was my soulmate and we had to be together. It made me pissed the way Summer didn’t reciprocate the feelings. But her last lines really stuck with me. Although she didn’t handle the whole friends with benefits situationship the right way, you really can’t blame her for not loving Tom. Especially when he himself didn’t love her, he just loved the idea of her.
God this movie was ahead of its time. While I didn’t like the themes (and didn’t see the red flags that both of the romantic leads had) that this movie had when it first came out, I appreciate them now.
I once read a book where a character was warned that if he was willing to throw a punch at someone else that easily, it wouldn't take much for him to turn it back around on you.
There IS a word for their relationship:
A situationship.
You hang out and do couple things, but there's no actual label on it.
Edit: I spoke too soon.
Watching this as a teen I related to/sided with Tom
Watching this in college I related to/sided with Summer
Watching this as an adult I realized they're both flawed, very human characters, and these sorts of things are usually not black and white
I value this movie so highly because you can interpret it differently depending on maturity, and it's so involved you'll always pick up something new every rewatch
500 days of Summer is such a conflicting movie for me. The first time I watched it, I related to Tom's character and felt his side to the story. But rewatching it a couple of times, ya I saw it way differently. But that's what makes it important, the movie can change your opinion many times you watch it showcasing how much we've grown from relationship experiences. I'm not the first one to clarify that but it is point and charm to it.
If I watched this as a teen, I feel like I would’ve sided with Tom more just because I would think he deserved the love of his life. But getting older is realizing that 🤷🏻♀️ sometimes they’re not the one!
I think this movie makes me feel uncomfortable because I know Tom is wrong, but I CANNOT relate to Summer at all. With the limited romantic experiences I've had, I have never been standing in her place. So I will always selfishly see her as an antagonist. But I'm probably also, like, a little emotionally stunted on the romance front 😂
Like the movie. Love the Expectations vs Reality sequence. Good analysis, Sophia! When the movie ended and I saw there were 20 minutes of video left . . . Damn, Sophia's doing a deep dive on this one!
I know 😂 I was really going in
Tom lives in his fantasy as other have pointed out. He lives for the idea of Summer but doesn’t have the maturity to love her for who she actually is or realize they’re not really suited to each other.
Along the theme of realistic movies about relationships: Celeste and Jesse Forever is one of my favorites ❤
The "Expectations" vs "Reality" scene is one of the best in Cinema!
At the beginning Tom's parents fight in the background and summers Mom leaves. It explains his not seeing why them fighting all the time isn't healthy and she feels nothing. We know Toms and arcitec but for all we know Summer could be an astronaut. I see this as friends helping each other grow. That's why I love it.
I think if I had watched this as a teen, especially after the break up with my ex, I might have been on Tom's side. I already had bad "relationships" before my ex but this was the first real serious relationship I had. Which, under the delusions of romance books/movies/shows, I thought I found the one. But we were in a long distance relationship and it turned out there were things we just didn't agree on but I took it as that I was the only one willing to put in work for a relationship that would not have worked out no matter what and so became really jaded and cynical after the breakup. To the point I felt like I would never date again. Randomly, 3 years after the break up and I'd gotten over being so hateful about dating, my ex contacted me to apologize for his side of what happened, I apologized for mine, and we're now friends again.
ARE WE THE SAME PERSON??? I became soooo jaded after my heartbreak, but I learned that it wasn’t worth it to be angry over something that wasn’t in my control! I never got an apology, but I’ve had my peace with it. Still wouldn’t ever be friends with them though 😂😂
I love how realistic this movie actually is while literally including a sudden dance sequence
I knew a guy once that orchestrated a whole elaborate musical production wedding proposal dance number to the "You make my Dreams" song. Super cheesy and over the top. He got goofed on a lot for that, as he already had a classic history of wildly outrageous gestures in relationships. - like recording ultra cringey cover song karaoke mix tapes. (She said yes and then they broke up about a month later). The ultimate Life as an Imitation of Art, on a whole other level. Hopefully this film serves as great wise warning of the unappealing nature of main character syndrome.
another thing that bothers me about this movie is the shift in public opinion but in a way that's so.. black and white. before, summer was the villain now it's tom. why does it need a villain? it's about the complexity of human relationships. i think people are allowed to be biased towards one character or the other maybe due to personal experiences but still.
ALSO another thing that gets misunderstood a lot by people imo it's when they use it as an example of the manic pixie dream girl trope. i think if anything it's actually a deconstruction of it. if it was the classic manic pixie dream girl movie tom would "get the girl" in the end. and by girl i mean summer i know he gets another girl. ANYWAY. sorry for this really long comment.
I AGREEEEE. And wait that’s so true about the manic pixie dream girl trope!!
@@SophiaPhannn thanks for replying. i really enjoyed your commentary and i admit i teared up a little in the 22 min mark lol. have a nice day 🤧❤️
also i hadn't finished your video when i posted this and now i realized we kind of said the same things 😅
JGL still gets Tom sympathizers coming up to him to this day.
And good guy that he is, makes it a point to tell them that Tom's actions are supposed to be taken as creepy and that the whole point of the movie is to show that Tom really didn't care about Summer at all.
JGL is a talent I wish was still in front of the camera more. He's so charismatic and brings such layers to his performances. Hesher, Brick, The Lookout, and 50/50 are all great roles of his.
i feel like neither of them really liked each other, they liked the feelings they got from the other person liking them. tom loves that a beautiful, fun, interesting woman enjoys his presence, finds him funny. summer likes that tom seems so unconditionally infatuated with her, she likes the feeling of being wanted so badly, she likes being idealized (even as she also hates being misinterpreted).
Amazing reaction AND post analysis! It is so common for media to sculpt our perspectives and then for reality to crush us and shatter our POVs. Sadly, it's part of the human experience now as media continues to grow and dominate people's time. That being said it is also a good tool for the savvy to divine a person's personality at the time. When people watch movies like '500 Days of Summer' or 'Scott Pilgrim vs The World' and they say tat they relate to Scott or Tom, then that person may want to re-evaluate themselves. So entertainment media as it stands is a double-edge sword and I think you encapsulated that perfectly. 11 out of 10.
I'm a 39yo guy and I see waaay too much of myself in Joseph Gordon-Levitts character from my younger (and honestly still in some ways but working on it) days.
The way he projects his idealized wants onto Summer and not seeing her as an actual person.
IMO there is also a madonna/whore thing going on.
I mean honestly I get it. Tom’s kind of attitude was validated a lot in the past, so it’s not surprising to hear other men admitting that they used to be the same way. But it’s good that people are growing and (un)learning from that way of thinking!!
Summer does feed into those wants though
I have a love/hate relationship with this movie but on an unrelated note, sense & sensibility is kind of similar in the way that people may not agree with one of the couples
‼️‼️ I’ve been wanting to watch that movie for a while
@@SophiaPhannn it has Alan rickman too!! (RIP legend)
Really loved your longer analysis. You offered a lot of insight into the movie that I haven't been able to put into words. Would love to see more deeper analysis in more movies, if you have the capacity and have a lot to say about it!
So glad!! 🙂 I was worried that it’d be too boring because it was so much talking 😭
Thank you for your scary but frank commentary 😁. This honestly helped me to process my heartbreak. I see myself in Tom. Due to my severe loneliness, I got attached to my FWB - who was just had undergone a breakup. He liked how sweet I was and I liked how I was finally a somebody to someone.
After months of our separation, his efforts suddenly declined. His vague responses trapped me between hoping and giving up.
I've been helping myself to recover and find love someday.
This is such a good movie bc it shows you how skewed the pov of the main guy is. A lot of people during the first viewing hated Summer. Now, it feels like there's been an over correction to where people think Tom is the bad guy. Neither of them are "bad". Tom is too immature and thinks every girl he meets is “the one”. Summer is too immature to know what boundaries look like when she wants something “casual” (she was clearly exploring the idea of wanting more) because she doesn’t really know what she wants.
I think both Summer and Tom grew from their relationship. Summer found hope in love again and Tom became more proactive in his life. Before he was waiting on love to solve problems. At the end, instead of talking himself up about the woman he saw at his new job, he just asked her out. Even though AUTUMN might not be "the one" he hasn't lost hope and he's trying again.
She didn’t lead him on, he put the responsibility of his happiness unfairly on her shoulders. I had to work a long time I’m not wanting a relationship .. 2:32 yup exactly what you’re saying..
You should watch Flipped it shows both sides of a middle school relationship based in the 1950s (I think) its a great movie in my opinion 👍
Agreed! Flipped would be a great react
I love that movie💕
I have an appreciation for this film over the last 10 years... In your early 20s, you side and relate with Tom, and are a little dismissive of Summer. In your mid-20s you start to understand her perspective more or rather Tom's willful ignorance of it, and his projection onto her, he starts to seem like the entitled bad "nice guy", he's childish, and full of red flags, undeserving of sympathy. He kind of became the villain of the film in some peoples eyes. Then it all comes full circle in your late 20s, you have a bit more empathy for him again, you've been in both of their positions now, you understand that they're both flawed people who couldn't communicate honestly, who just weren't right for each other. Time and reflection are a hell of a thing.
Zoey Deschanel is so pretty 😍 She really tapped into the glasses and fringe combo here that served her well in New Girl
You look great too Sophia 😉
Is it bad to say that this is my comfort movie…..
Not at all!
this is a conflicting movie for me for sure. when i first watched it everyone hated tom so i felt kinda bad that i could actually sort of see where he was coming from. don't get me wrong there are many points in the movie where i think he's 1 being a jerk and 2 misunderstanding summer completely but still... can't help but feel bad for him when he sees the ring. and i think it's mostly bc i've also felt the heartbreak and resentment of not being chosen or loved by the person i loved. i've learned to deal better with it because it's part of growing up. and it's also helped me understand summer's (and people like her) pov but it still makes me sad every time i watch it idk.
One of my favorite movies! I was a bit sad you didn't like it initially so I appreciated the analysis afterward! I can totally relate to relating to the characters initially then taking a step back and realizing how ugly some of their behavior is in retrospect. This is definitely a movie that can make you think and reflect on yourself a whole lot so I will always appreciate it. ❤ Amazing video as always!
Alright now we just gotta see all 104 days of summer vacation
Summer: “I was gonna, maybe, have a party, if you wanna come… (By the way, it’s my engagement party.)”
Sophia went full big sister mode at the end
LMFAO I HAD TO GIVE MY WORDS OF WISDOM ‼️‼️‼️
@@SophiaPhannn as a little sister I greatly appreciate it (even if we're the same age lol)
unrelated but ur hair is gorgeous here
Thank you 🥹🫶🏼
this was definitely my favourite movie when I was younger and I think it still really holds up even if it's not my fav anymore. It has so much to say about love and relationships and I think it means a lot to ppl for good reason!
Yeah I think it ages well!! It has a pretty universal message that anyone can relate to 😊
The term Manic Pixie Dream Girl describes woman who would work better as a spirit guide, imaginary friend, hallucination, or ghost that only her loser boyfriend can see. If you can imagine that and the story doesn't change much, you have a manic pixie dream girl. She exists for no purpose other than to help some guy become happier.
I never understood everyone saying we misunderstood the movie wrong all these years and Summer isn’t actually the villain because I had no idea where that was coming from,
Not a single person I talked to about the movie thought Summer was the villain. So I don’t know where that idea came from because I have talked to a lot of people about this movie. It could be the country I am from I don’t know, but I’ve never seen Tom as the villain either…
This is a realistic tale of two people who don’t actually know what they want or need yet. Two people who still don’t fully understand what romantic love is going to look like yet in completely different ways.
I’ve always seen them as them both being the bad ones.
Summer didn’t want anything serious and sure she did communicate that of the bat, but she never communicated what she wanted that to look like, what her boundaries were and never asked what he was comfortable with in that. Yes there’s a level of him being responsible for not communicating that, but she is the one who laid down wanting it to be a casual relationship so that gives her the biggest responsibility to lay down what that means. And if she just assumed Tom should know what she means then that shows the lack of maturity she had in understanding in communication in the relationship, which is okay but is part of why it just didn’t work out.
And Tom of course for all the obvious reasons. He had this idealised idea of what the relationship was and could be, and the same about Summer. He believed a little more in the magic of love than the work you put in because you have it for each other.
I think they just both weren’t the right people but not in the wrong way. They helped each other understand love better. So they could find better love. The perfect movie of just what a beautiful mess life can be.
I really want to want to watch this movie being reacted to by someone who hasn’t heard anything about the characters, so I can see their own thoughts because when people go into it with others opinions I feel they are way too hard on Tom but the truth is they were both the bad ones.
I'm from Brazil and I loved your reaction, I had already seen this film but your comments about the relationship between Summer and Tom did me a lot of good. I started having a relationship with a friend from college and we recently cut ties, we don't talk anymore, currently I'm just another person who sits on the other side of the room and she's the same thing to me. It wasn't as smooth as it was in the movie and I'm still not okay with what happened, but I wanted to say thank you because your comments helped me understand why everything happened the way it did.
yesss love the longer format!!
Yay! I’m glad 🥹 I was worried that it’d be too boring since it’s plain talking 😭
Hi Sophia! Love your vids ❤❤❤ also I recommend masterminds, there's something about Mary, save the last dance and 50 shades of grey series
Masterminds, with Sir Patrick Stewart? Yes please!
never watched this movie cuz i was 12 when it came out and now here i am at 22 watching u watch it and how sadly relatable this whole situation in this movie is :') it makes me feel unneasy too lol and unfortunately its not on a past situationship but a present one T-T
i watched this movie not too long ago (my memory sucks but within the last year fs!) bc it’s iconic and so many people loved it. i knew it wasn’t a perfect romance movie, but when it ended i didn’t really feel anything. listening to you explain the parallels between it and the graduate made me wish i had seen it, bc i probably would’ve felt more! my only take away at the time was that i couldn’t believe ppl thought summer was the bad guy (i’d seen ppl talking abt that on twt at the time). i mean, i can believe it, but yk. i think that really stems from the fact that so many ppl, even now, go into everything they watch looking for a good guy and a bad guy. when in reality, neither tom or summer are bad people. yes they had their issues, but they’re not evil. there’s no one to rly hate here imo (other than tom’s annoying curly haired friend 😭😭)
Some comedies for summers in the future - Meatballs (Bill Murray), One Crazy Summer (John Cusack, Demi Moore), Summer Rental (John Candy)
One Crazy Summer is definitely probably one of the most fun and truly wholesome summer movies of the 80s!
I haven't seen this since it came out, and now I'm realizing my ex was similar to Tom. Especially the pancakes line at 20:30, which reminded me of the day I ended it. I was trying to go home to finish a school assignment that was due that night and he kept trying to hang out anyway, suggesting to go get frozen yogurt instead of taking me home. He told me I should've "planned ahead" and finished it earlier, even though I had told him that morning I couldn't hang out but he insisted we at least get lunch. There were so many other problems but that was it for me.
Omg I commented this before i watched the post analysis when you brought up the pancake part again, and it literally is how my breakup went down haha
Omg I once was seeing someone who was disrespectful of my time too. It was SO annoying because we already hung out a lot already, but he wanted MORE of my time. Like?? I’ve got shit to do bro 🙄
the hair omg!
This is such a rollercoaster of a movie. Like… I haven’t watched it since watching it with a past Bf in theatre. Thank you you for your nuanced reviews of it. I like how you can see both sides but also the problems. 💜
The way I thought this movie was ART in high school it’s crazy how it’s aged. I still stand by the soundtrack lol
This movie so ....I mean it tells you at the beginning that it's not a love story but presents itself as a love story. The leads have such good chemistry and you kinda want to see them together but in tvery feel good way it proves in the end that it's not a love story
When he looks at us at the end, it is also proof that fate is also right, because after Summer comes Autumn, which happens to be the name of the next woman in his life, and this time while he is on his purpose.
Within the first ten minutes I have come to the conclusion that they are both in the wrong! He sucks in general.. but she ducks for not cutting things off as soon as things started but she kept leading him on the whole time and.. even when it continued and they had that big blow up? She should’ve just ended it right there. And he’s so delulu he didn’t even see that it needed to be ended…
Great video! This was one of my favourite movies back in the day haha. Would love to see your take on Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind someday - it's also based in a complicated, non-linear exploration of relationships and our memories of them. You might find it interesting if you haven't seen it already :)
I’ve actually never seen it, but I’ve heard that it’s super sad 🥲 saving it for a day when I feel like crying HAHA
Omg the kahoot music 😂😂😅 {I just realized}
What really sucks about the Author Note at the beginning is that one of the writers of this movie wrote it basically totally autobiographical and genuinely thinks Summer was in the wrong throughout this movie. He won't actually say if Jenny Beckham is the girl who inspired Summer's real name but he did give out a lot of personal information about her like where they went to college and the classes they took when they met so if that is her real name it wouldnt be hard to find her... It feels especially gross to me because he also said in an interview that when he wrote the author note it was from a place of anger which makes me really think it is her name...
the analysis was great Sophia
Thank you 🫶🏼
I watched this movie for the first time when I was 20 and saw some of my own flaws in Tom. Particularly the misogynistic comments he made about Summer. Seeing it showcased like that made me reflect on my own behavior and was one of the things that got me on a journey to change for the better.
I also started dating around the same time I watched it and had the same idealistic/naive look at love (I blame you Ted from "How I Met Your Mother!") and this helped me take a better look at my own delusions. It didn't help that much cuz I still made the same mistakes that Tom and Summer made in subsequent situationships but it's better to have gone through it than not to.
I rewatched it again for the next season of the podcast and pretty much everything you said was what I said in the episode XD. On my first watch, I thought Tom changed by the end but this time around I'm less confident and believe he might make the same mistake or at least to a lesser degree. The one thing my guest noticed that I didn't is that Tom became more confident and directly approached Autumn while with Summer he pined for her for weeks before asking her out.
Anyway, this is one of my favorites mostly because it gives the same vibe as "Pushing Daisies" in that it has somewhat of a fairy tale book atmosphere to it. I don't get to see that type of film a lot but when I do, I eat it up!
Great video as always!
I've watched this movie numerous times over the years and in a way, I feel like it's been a different experience every time. Over the years through my own life/relationship experiences my perspective and opinions on it have changed. Took longer than it should have to realize how unhealthy Tom's idealizing of her and their relationship was. Due to how often I was guilty of doing it myself. Where you want a relationship to work out so badly that you keep ignoring the signs or hoping that they will change their mind. Never worked out and I wish I'd known better or stood up for myself more. Always easier looking back on things though, rather than when you're currently experiencing it.
I agree with you though in that Summer while continuingly saying she wanted to keep things casual... didn't always keep it that casual. I get how that would confuse him. But, really, they just both needed to be more open and honest about things. Rather than just saying "I'm happy" when they're not. Or "It's fine". Never fixes anything.
The truth of the film is that both of the characters are flawed and they have a perfectly normal relationship where both of the characters have faults and do things wrong. It was absurd that either character was thought of as a villain. The last decade has been a wave of contrarians with little life experience trying to force their silly perceptions onto movies, etc.
Honestly, I think it’s quite fair to say this is a bit of a contemporary classic. It really manages to capture the humanity of a relationship in one’s twenties.
PS- crazy that saying ‘Hey, I don’t like that fashion style’ is somehow a comment that needs to be “defended”. Lmao. What.
Sense you love musicals you might like lovestruck the musical. It’s one of my favorite abc family original movies🥰
the conclusion was so good!!
even if you saw yourself in the characters, its all about that growth;)
What a good movie that stays good over time. Why does people on social media always feeld the need to find a villain in movies like these like they are Marvel movies?. They are just people with different objetives and expectations living life and making mistakes. Like all of us.
I have a theory that Jasmines gold earrings and necklace belonged to her mother. If you think about it, it does make sense
True story: A guy I had recently started seeing showed me this movie then took me to that exact park bench because it was close to my apartment and he thought it was romantic.......it didn't last very long.
Tom is like a less creepy version of Calvin from "Ruby Sparks". Rewatching this movie left me so disgusted tbh I can't believe this movie is seen as "romantic". yikes
call me delusional (referring to the very beginning of the video) but September is technically still summer, until the 21st so maybe I’m in denial and maybe Im starting school in a week but it’s still hot girl summer and NOT fall
I think of September as autumn 😂 but good luck with school!!!
I never noticed, but I love the new chair.
Is Red, White & Royal Blue next on your list?
Your hair looks GREAT! 😍
Thank you!! 🫶🏼🫶🏼
I think youre great and I love your views and opinions.
Since you seem to like jewelry so much , what do you think of Jasmine from Aladdins gold earrings and necklace. Do you think they're beautiful but wouldn't wear em personally?
5:35 yes he is. They're both taking the piss out of him because he's being ridiculous.
yesss all of those throwaway nasty comments tom makes are in the script intentionally. he was never meant to be the hero of the story- even in 2009 people w/ film literacy understood that. this is just one of those movies that took a while for some people to read between the lines and realize what the actual message was.
They both are the problem Tom invested too much of himself into summer and she abused that and took advantage of Tom until she was bored with him and found another guy to throw herself at. Summer is definitely the bad one causing problems but its because Tom let her because he was convinced that's what love was.
I'm gonna go watch 500 Days of Autumn ... It's only 500 Days because she dies 500 Days into relationship ... Summer kills her. Lol
First to comment on another video from Sophia!!!
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Also, summer is almost over for me and I'm not too happy about it 😢. I'm about to start another year of college and it's going to be difficult to get back into the normal routine.
Aw man good luck! You got this 🤘🏼
@@SophiaPhannn Thanks 😊❤
3:35 he's saying that because he's a doctor.
i dont mind your post analysis.. more pls
This was perfect
gasped out loud bc im so autistic for this movie /srs ive watched it about 30 times its my favourite movie ever
RAAHH YOURE THE ONLY PERSON IVE SEENW HO HAS THE SAME VIEWPOINT AS ME
Love this movie
is that kahoot music i hear
Omg yes Sophia
Tom develops a mildly delusional obsession over a profession onto which he projects his career fantasies. He thinks being an architect will give his life meaning because his current well paying job with good benefits does not give much meaning to his life. He quits his job only because it is not his dream job and he has a plate-smashing tantrum. He was lucky to get interviews, but he remains unemployed. The ending is open-ended so you can imagine if he gets hired.
have you seen, The Last Five Years??
Nothing about the movie (tho I love the reaction!) - your hair looks fab!!
Thank you!!! ☺️🫶🏼
Ok...now I need to watch this movie because I don't understand why people took her side.
The guy is inmature and an idiot, but she's manipulative 😂
I personally don't do such things with my friends but OK I guess