Don’t be this guy… He sucks - 500 Days of Summer (Movie Reaction)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- 500 DAYS OF SUMMER Movie Reaction
500 Days Of Summer is objectively a pretty good movie, but it was tough to watch. Definitely an interesting one for a movie reaction though as we had a lot to say about it and both of the main characters, played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Zooey Deschanel. It's a detailed look at a very realistic bad relationship and brings up many issues worth discussing in a movie reaction
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For those of you who are wondering about my girlfriend, Maria, she's safe right now. Currently waiting for her opportunity to get to the border safely and cross over into Poland where she can then go to the Australian embassy and then fly to Australia. We both thank everyone so much for all their love and support in this tough time! ❤🙏 - Sam
(Also, this and the next video were obviously filmed a couple weeks ago, before I shaved my head. Next one is To All The Boys 2)
Omg I'm so glad. I immediately wanted to see how y'all were doing. Love from Texas 💗👍🏽
Praying for Maria to finally getting over to see you.
currently praying for your girlfriend right now. sending you all of my love 💖
Thank you for sharing about Maria's well being I hope she continues to do well best wishes to both you Sam and Maria
May you and Maria be reunited soon! I'm very glad for you that she is out of harms way now. 💖
To this day, JGL says that he still has people coming up to him and sympathising with Tom. He acknowledged that Tom's actions are meant to be perceived as creepy and not romantic, since he's trying to force Summer to be HIS dream girl, and doesn't care about what SHE wants.
My only issue as a woman was as soon as she started sleeping with Tom I changed my mind about her. I’m sorry but she knew that Tom was infatuated with her and told him she didn’t feel the same way. I don’t agree with her sleeping with him because she didn’t know what she wanted that’s an excuse imo. You can’t tell someone you don’t feel the same way and then turn around and have sex because you’re lonely. You’re essentially giving the guy or woman hope in that situation. I just don’t like some fellow women keeping the guy they don’t like accessible when they need to feel comforted. They both were toxic. I don’t agree with Tom and certainly don’t agree with Summer.
@@tokkibeanie I think there’s a difference if one partner makes it very clear they’re only interested in a sexual relationship. The onus is then on the other partner who consents to this relationship willingly to not develop further feelings. This is why friends-with-benefits often don’t work. But if someone agrees to delve into a purely sexual relationship where the other partner has been clear about not wanting anything serious then they can’t blame the other person for developing feelings.
@@tokkibeanie Definitely don’t agree with that. She made it clear that she only wanted a “fun” (friends with benefits) type of relationship and he agreed, while not telling her that he thought they would end up falling in love because that’s just how things are. He thought it was only destiny that she would changer her mind and love him and only him, because he was a hopeless romantic. I hate this “don’t give people hope” shit, so Summer just has to treat him like shit so he doesn’t feel hope?
@@coniwiiuwu5578 I think the crux of the issue is that Tom was CLEARLY not on the same page. Especially since the "friends" aspect of it leaned more towards "dates"..it's not like we see them hanging out with other people; outside of sex, they were basically just dating, growing closer and more intimate emotionally, as well.
Perhaps Summer didn't know how/where to draw the line between love and friendship, but Tom was CLEARLY not the guy to rely on keeping that line defined with her. Even after he pushed her to define their relationship because he considers them a couple, she goes back to him and continues the relationship when she clearly should have ended it.
Tom definitely projected and is absolutely responsible for his own issues in expecting a relationship when he's not promised one. But Summer chose to start something up with the guy who just told her he's all about love and relationships. She chose him. If she truly wanted casual, she should have picked somebody else. With Tom, she should have at least clearly defined friend activities with/for him. But setting that aside, there was more than one time when it was clear that, despite his words, Tom was all in, and Summer absolutely shares responsibility for the situation by not ending it or course-correcting immediately.
So, no, she didn't have to treat him like shit. But she certainly could/should have been more casual and shit. Or maybe just not started that shit in the first place? Like, maybe she could have just been friends with him and had a casual relationship with some guy who was clearly into casual relationships?
@@xphiler06 THANK YOU I'm tired of the lack of nuance and all these one sided takes on this film. The whole point of the film is both of them made mistakes and acted selfishly.
Wishing good health and safety for you and your girlfriend, Sam. you guys are always in our thoughts, stef as well! You guys rock for still taking time to upload during this and we love you!
Thank so much! We appreciate the love 😊 - Sam
"Just because she likes the same bizarro crap you do doesn't mean she's your soul mate." Yes, Baby Chloe Grace Moretz, summing the entire message up brilliantly! 👏🏾🥰
addams family profile pic. nice :)
That was always my favorite line lol. Far too many people define their attraction to others by having common interests rather than compatible personalities/life goals.
Exactly! It kind of ties into the whole manic pixie dream girl thing too, just projecting your fantasy expectation onto others and not seeing them for who they really are.
She gave the audience a clue how immature Tom was.
in my experience, physical violence is very unattractive to most women. it's really not as cool as some guys think it is to punch another dude. just some macho bullshit. it's way more attractive to be calm and know how to deescalate or just walk away.
Yeah. I know for my part it would just make him seem unstable and I'd worry that if we disagreed he could turn that behaviour on me.
All I’d think was if they can do it to someone else, they could do it to me too; it can be terrifying to date someone who’s stronger than you sometimes
Lmao what kinda world we coming to
This walk away is pathetic and makes you look vulnerable and weak,soft
@@moonkitty5274 one fact males are physically stronger than females...so idk how you gonna be equally strong to a man
@@captainnikotiko7711 Way to out yourself.
It's crazy how societal changes warps your perception of something. I saw this when it came out and empathized with JGL. Now?....it's just clear he's displaying these r/niceguy tendencies and feels like he's owed something, and fell in love with this idea of her, without really getting to know her. Strange
Yeah, I think I would have felt the same so I’m glad I didn’t see it back then - Sam
That was kinda the point. You just caught up to it finally.
I don't think that's societal thing... he was always meant to be a jerk LOL its literally how he's summarized in all the movie promos. He's delusional and that's the story.
I had a roommate in college who felt so bad for JGL's character he would *cry*. None of us realized this as the huge red flag we should have
"She might be both asexual and aromantic."
I knew I loved you guys but now I just don't have the words. My heart just might burst.
this is why i came to the comments
Thanks so much for mentioning that! I'm on the Ace spectrum (demisexual/romantic and graysexual/romantic) and I love the ace representation or head canon theory.
Man, I cannot understate the massive red flag that this grown-ass man's 12 year old sister has to come talk him out of smashing plates when he's upset and talk to him about how he's very incorrectly emotionally invested in a relationship. Big oof.
I find the scene very interesting where theyre lying in bed with JGL staring at summer, shes talking but theres narration over it, then the narration cuts out and she says 'ive never told anyone that before'.
Its so clear that she just opened up to him something quite intimate but he. just. wasnt. listening. And i think that sums up the whole film for me.
From the DVD commentary, I was told the point of the scene was to show Tom thinking her saying that meant something significant was changing between them, but it actually didn't.
The fact that you guys are even still posting after all that Sam is going through is almost too much. It’s got me emotional nothing but love and we’ll wishes to you guys and especially to you Sam and your gf. Also to you, Steph you sexy sob lol. Especially reacting to my favorite live action movie for all of my teens and early 20’s.
Thanks for the support! Even through the tough times, the show must go on. I have faith Maria will be safe 😊 - Sam
@@themoviebudz1988 hey man also if you need time off please do take because it's a lot and I get it the show must go on but you guys mental state is far more important 💜
I really hated how her was idolized and then demonized by him and the audience, cuz lets be real, she doesnt owes nothing to anyone, sometimes its like that, some people are no ment to be or theres not a click between them (or one of them doesnt feel right about it) and others do, so...
My point its nobodys perfect, we have different needs and here theres no villain and hero, just humans.
Yeah, a very real story about a messy relationship. It’s well told, even if Tom is a bit much to take - Sam
The internalised misogyny I had as a young teen made me believe summer was the bad guy. But as an adult who has experienced this before myself, that def's ain't it dawg
I really love how JGL has reiterated several times over the years that basically if you are rooting for his character in this and think everything is 100% Summer's fault then you missed the point of the movie.
I like the non-linear timeline for this because it helped do a couple of important things for the audience (from my perspective)
1) create clear juxtaposition of "good times" and "bad times" to illuminate that the sparkly beginnings of a relationship may not mean much in terms of fate or destiny like Tom wishes and that Tom was the architect of his own unhappiness right from the get go...his heartbreak is his own making, not Summer's
2) JGL and the writer/direct have both said that the movie is meant to be an indictment of the type of guy who projects a relationship and ideal onto a woman and holds her responsible for his impossible happiness. But that point regularly gets lost on people (especially during the time this movie was released) because of cultural ideas many of us hold about love, relationships, fate, etc. So the fact that the core message can be often overlooked by people who want a typical love story combined with the fact that JGL and Zooey Deschanel have such good chemistry creates a need for the film to break tropes and timelines. If this was told linearly, I think people would be even more inclined to miss the point and see things from Tom's perspective because we'd fall in love with the idea of what he and Summer could be and what Tom wishes they were. So by not having lots of happy, charming days and dates in a row and instead cutting to an unhappy future, we're forced to see from outside the tropes and outside of Tom's delusions
I think jumping around in the timeline also adds to the portrayal of Tom's character. The harsh contrast from total infatuation to utter hatred really emphasizes how emotionally volatile and willfully delusional he was.
It's a technique called the Verfremdungseffekt! Or distancing effect. Breaking audience immersion on purpose so they're forced to think about the character's actions consciously rather than subconsciously, and stopping us from automatically identifying with the protagonist because that's what we're trained to do with most stories. I fully think Marc Webb (the director) did it with this intention in mind considering how unromantic this film feels, compared to how fantastically he developed the romance in the Amazing Spiderman movies.
It also reflects the way memory works. When you think about your past with a person, it's rarely in a purely chronologically way.
what you're saying is a really good point, but as a viewer i still got hella confused
What I love about this movie is that your interpretation of it, or perception of it, can completely change depending on where you're at in your life. When I first watched it, I was a young adult completely dreaming my life instead of actually living it, so I empathised with Joseph's character a LOT at the time. Then I saw it again over a decade later and my perception of it had completely switched. It was like night and day. I could see how toxic his behaviour was. "It's not what happens to us that makes us. It's how we interpret it."
"You need to have the spine to say--I deserve to be with someone who wants to be with me."
Sam SAY IT LOUD!
Will do! It’s worth it, absolutely- Sam
Very neat thing they did with color theory:
Throughout the movie, Summer is the only one wearing the color blue. That's why everyone in the You Make My Dreams Come True is wearing it.
This movie has affected me in a way that very few movies have. I'm ashamed to say I use to have a very similar worldview to JGL's character and it led me to a very toxic and misogynistic mindset. This movie made me reevaluate myself, my actions, and my way of seeing events that have happened in an entirely new light. Women don't owe you shit and it is never a good idea to try and force your own views on relationships in the hopes you can "change" them.
This worked to a woman too. The idea of you can change the “bad boy". Why don't looking for someone who is the way you like and not pursued to people who isn't this way for changing them.
I glad now we have a films less problematic
That's so good to hear about Maria, I hope she's able to get to you in Australia, Sam. Will still be thinking of you both until we get word that you're together. Take care
Thank you! We’re hoping she can get to the border soon and once she’s in Poland, we can breath easier - Sam
i cannot standdddd this movie given the way it was idolized by so many for the weirdest, wrongest reasons 😭my first bf said i was “his summer” and i swiftly dumped him. but y’all’s editing and commentary makes it enjoyable as usual
"It gets *DRY* because its *WET* ?!??!" 🤣🤣🤣 I nearly cracked a rib
Keeping Maria and you guys in my thoughts, hope she's with you soon and can breathe easy!
24:22 it really got me too,,, funny cause it's true
I can attest to the dangers of doing it in a shower over bath 🛁 ... the guy I was with fainted at the end and took both of us out when he fell 😣🤕
@@BonnyT Ooft. First time I tried it it was a rainforest shower with wall jets and we didn't try to actually go for it, so it was lovely! Second time... God it was awful. Some sort of slippy human Tetris.
I love this film so much, the unreliable narration, the soundtrack, and the fact that you can clearly see that Tom is in the wrong. He so desperately wants his perfect girl and a dream relationship, that he didn't stop to think about whether summer actually wanted to be that girl. I'm so glad that it ended like it did with him and summer, with summer saying that she just didn't want to have that future with him. It was the perfect ending.
My favorite line is she's better than the girl of my dreams. She's real.
When this movie came out, lots of people got NONE of the hints. They loved the main character and hated Summer, not getting it at all.
Aw I’m so glad to hear about Maria! Sending so many positive thoughts your way ♥️
Ps my name is Rachel and I loved the intro 😂
Thanks for the positivity! We really appreciate it 😊 glad you liked the intro joke 😁 - Sam
tom limits himself and has no drive. i feel like this was a big reason summer couldn’t be with him - he was happy with no ambition at a job he hated, hoping summers love would cure his sadness. she likely needed and eventually wanted a partner, not a dependent.
she was never sure of him because he was never sure of himself and never showed he could be more than what he settled to be.
The two of you give off real “men written by women” energy
During the wrap party for this Matthew Grey Gubler severely injured his knee to the point they had to write him being shot in the knee into criminal minds so he could legitimately be on crutches
Musta been some party!
7:15 because it's 500 Days of Summer. Not 500 Days of Summer and Tom. It means she's been in his life or a massive presence in his life for 500 days.
Also, I hope your girlfriend and her family in Ukraine are safe and okay!!! Sending much love your and her way!!!!
Edit: 52:17 she's crying because The Graduate isn't a romantic movie. It's actually incredibly sad. The main guy falls in love with and has an affair with the younger girl's mother. And in the end he realizes he loves the younger girl (Elaine) and crashes her wedding to someone else and convinced her to run off with him. The ending is them realizing they both maybe made a mistake and their smiles fade.
No it's not. The camera just kept rolling and they didn't know what they were supposed to do.
It is good to hear that your girlfriend is safe. I am praying that she gets out soon and for everyone in the Ukraine for an end to the Russian invasion. Much love to you and your girlfriend.
I made the mistake of getting into a relationship with a guy who had JUST gone through literally this movie. He was very jealous and possessive, constantly referencing the previous girl who “broke his trust”. I kept trying to help him reframe the relationship but it wasn’t enough. Eventually that baggage broke our relationship because nothing I did could “convince” him I loved him. Go to therapy everyone, self sabotage is real.
I think the issue with Summer is that her parents divorce hurt her a lot more than she was willing to admit and that she found it easier to just start saying that love doesn't exist and to make relationships like her hair - the fact that she could cut it off and not feel anything.
I mean for the record I thought she was being cool when she said that she didn't want to just be known as anyone's girlfriend and that women would be able to enjoy their independence and when she said "the lady doth not protest at all", but when she said 'might as well enjoy it while we can and save the serious stuff for later' I thought she was being a little immature since the whole point about the serious stuff is that we can't just save it for later or any time, it just starts happening when it starts happening and half the time there's no warning. And when she said 'come on, you guys believe in that' she seemed (well to me at least) that she was trying to convince herself of it by acting like it was a universal truth, and there was also the way she brought up 'like my parents'.
But the main issue is - though I still say it was a little self-centred of her and Tom to both start saying that love doesn't exist just because of a break-up, especially when you look at a lot of the battles people have had to fight because of love (for the right to love, for the right to get married or even for the right to just go on a date and see how it goes) ie LGBTQ couples, interracial couples - is that Tom's question of 'but what happens when you fall in love' was a little out of the blue and not really what she was talking about (my own answer would've been 'when it happens, its happens and I'll see what happens then' and shows that the problem is that he wasn't listening to her, he only heard or saw what he wanted to hear and made it pretty clear he didn't really care about what she wanted. He expected her to fall in love with him or to view their relationship the same way she did when she was really honest from the start that she wasn't looking for anything serious.
I think that after the bar scene she decided to try being a girlfriend for a while to see where the relationship would go so she started doing things like holding his hand. But she clearly wasn't happy and he refused to see it.
And I don't get why when this movie was released everyone was villainising her like she'd been heartless in the break-up when she said "I think we should stop seeing each other" and said that she didn't think that heir relationship was healthy because of their fights - and she said that she was the 'Sid' in their relationship which basically meant that she thought she was attacking him.
She maybe needed to rethink how she saw relationships but that was something she needed to do in her own time, not because Tom wanted her to change in the matter of months.
First I love this movie because it’s an actual look at how some people approach romance (I was probably one of them in my early 20s, and this movie helped snap me out). Sam, all the good vibes to you and Maria
32:28 100%. In fact, I once read a book where a character was warned that if he was willing to throw a punch at someone else that easily, it wouldn't take much for him to turn it back around on you.
I've actually read the original screenplay for this movie, and in the karaoke scene, Tom goes on about how if you're with the right person, your feelings wouldn't change the next day. You'd just know.
And at the end, on the bench, Summer tells him he was right. Every day she spends with her husband, her feelings never changed.
After watching this, I really want you guys to watch "He's Just Not That Into You." The commentary would be awesome.
They could've titled this move "If She Wanted To, She Would."
First of all, Sam thanks for the update on your gf and I wish both of you safety and peace. I'm so glad there's a plan to get her to safety - and you. Watching all that's happening is heartbreaking.
I just love you guys so much. As a 42F asexual aromantic, your commentaries about women and the misogynistic way sooooo many men (and particularly rom com leads) behave literally gives me hope that future generations. Keep being awesome, I'm here for it.
it’s actually hilarious that you guys made a joke about matthew gray gubler adding stipulations to his contracts that he won’t cut his hair for any roles, when he’s actually notorious for always cutting his hair for his indie movie roles. it’s why spencer reid has a different haircut every season; matthew is off filming different things during the criminal minds season breaks and comes back with the remnants of his recent haircut😭
That’s so weird. It’s totally normal where I’m from to go to IKEA with friends. It’s such an interesting cultural difference.
With friends, sure. Not with a fuck buddy tho. That’s completely mixed messages. We even said it was normal to go with a friend. But they’re not friends - Sam
Ah! The end bit 😳 I met my other half when we both applied for the same job. They whittled it down from 40 candidates to us two and couldn’t decide so gave us a one month trial and we got the train together everyday to and from work and eventually we worked together so well they hired us both as a team 😊 we spent so much time working together and getting to know each other and just fell in love. That’s wild that was the ending of the movie 😂
I always enjoy your comments, Laurajayne. What a nice story of your relationship origin 😊 - Sam
Ah that’s very sweet. I interpret the ending very differently, unfortunately, as to me it indicates that Tom has actually learnt very little and is about to get into the exact same cycle all over again. The woman’s name is even Autumn! Maybe I’m just being cynical! 😅
If you follow JGL on social media it comes up every so often where he clarifies that he is not the hero of the story. I suspect he is also frustrated by the popular misinterpretation of the movie/his character...despite the film calling Tom on his BS quite a lot.
I think people sometimes have a hard time with (recognizing) unreliable narrators. I think a lot of people also have a hard time being critical of their own behavior being reflected back at them and identify with the characters instead. The brilliance and the tragedy of casting a likeable actor in the lead role is also that so many fans want to support JGL and his character, which complicates the issue further.
As up-front as Summer is about not wanting a relationship, I do think she is equally as responsible as Tom is about the mess that follows. Tom is consistently obvious about the fact that he doesn't get and has no interest in the casual thing and I'm not certain she didn't use his fondness for her as a safety net to not-date date. She may have just been working things out for herself, but the dating behavior mixed with the casual-status assertions feel, at best, like he was a safety net. But her seeing him going to & at the wedding, knowing who he is, I think she was more wilfully in the wrong; she didn't just dance with him, she also sat and chatted with him, stayed with him throughout the reception, and invited him to a party without him knowing he'd meet, if not her fiance, her boyfriend--and then didn't even tell him when she greeted him at the door while wearing a wedding ring. If there hadn't been a long, messy period of them not being able to define their relationship and her knowing how he felt about her, maybe not such a bad move, but in their case, it doesn't just feel like obliviousness or her just doing her own thing. I don't consider Summer the villain, but she is at least as guilty of willful ignorance and selfish decision-making as Tom is, in my opinion.
I never understood the people who cried/complained about the fact that they don't end up together (another thing that JGL has addressed more than once--that they shouldn't be together).
On another note, I'm happy to see positive news about Maria. I'll keep hoping for her continued safety, and for everyone else. ♡
So this is just my personal theory, but I think the reason this story was told in a non-linear way was to keep reminding the audience that they weren't going to work out, to not get invested in seeing their relationship succeed. If it was told in a linear way, we'd be following Tom's perspective much more closely and sympathise with him more than we're meant to, because just by the nature of storytelling, we're drawn to want to root for a main character who has a journey with obstacles to overcome. By making it non-linear, that narrative is broken up, and we're forced to view Summer as an actual person rather than a trophy. It stops her from being a manic pixie dream girl (something Zoey Deschanel has played multiple times) because it shows her flaws upfront. Also by highlighting Tom's toxicity after their breakup and intercutting that with the good times of their relationship, it makes you question how genuine his love for Summer really was in those good times.
To get all nerdy on you guys, this technique is an example something called the Verfremdungseffekt (which roughly means "distancing effect") which was coined by Bertolt Brecht, an early 20th century German playwright. He explained it as tools used to portray a story in such a way that the audience would have to consider the character's actions in a conscious way rather than in the subconscious, unlike how most stories are meant to be consumed. It's explicitly meant to stop you from just automatically identifying with a character just because they're the protagonist. You're not supposed to identify with Tom, you're supposed to judge him.
I feel safe in saying these choices were deliberate because of how thoroughly un-romantic this film feels. Like you said, Tom and Autumn had more chemistry in their 5 minutes onscreen together than he and Summer did in the whole movie. It's not because the actors can't act. It's certainly not because Marc Webb can't direct romances; he directed both Amazing Spiderman movies, and even with how divisive those are, one thing everyone agrees on is how great the romance is there. Idk if you've seen those movies, but the dude knows how to make you feel invested in a romance. And with Tom and Summer I feel like he made the deliberate choice not to.
Anyways, I think you guys would have gotten the message of the movie whether it was told in a linear or non-linear way, but you have to remember that even with all that I said above, this movie still has a legion of people (mostly dudes, but also some women) who hate Summer and identify with Tom. Even with how much the movie tells you that his mindset was wrong and unhealthy, people call her a bitch all the time. JGL has to pushback against that narrative to this day, and he does so every time because he's a king.
PS love all the Schmoseby references. As someone who loves both this film and HIMYM a lot (they're both comfort watches for me) idk how I never put together how similar Tom and Ted are, both being pretentious nice guy architects obsessed with "the one". Like is there something I didn't know about architects? lol anyways sorry for the essay!
I really love this movie, but the reason I love it so much is how many perspective has changed through the years and how my views on Tom’s character has greatly matured.
This movie helped me realize I was in a not so great relationship. I was the Summer in his story and after telling him time and time again I didn't want anything serious he still wasn't listening. I left and we honestly did become friends over time. A very long time. But he was able to tell me he was sorry for all the crap he put me through.
Glad to hear Maria and her family are safe. ♥
7:18 the 500 days refer to how long she stays in his head rent free, not how long the relationship is.
I have been the Summer to so many guys. It never went very far - not ever beyond a first date, never anything like 500 days - but it's still such a fucked up situation to be in. There's someone who doesn't know you at all and they suddenly decide that you're their perfect girlfriend and they're in love with you and you have to go out with them. One guy wanted to dye his hair for me after knowing me for just 2 hours and that's not even the creepiest thing one of them has ever done in that situation. I legitimately hate it so much because it makes approaching new people such a risk. Like, when I join a new group or go to a workshop or enter any kind of new space I just wanna be friendly, be my extroverted self and make new friends and I have to hold back every time out of fear that some guy gets the wrong idea. It sucks.
SAME, YES. and on the flip side, as in the rare occasions i liked them back, I find out they didn’t actually like ME, they liked some idea of me they built up in their head, and the second I didn’t perform to that idealized version they’re so quick to dip out. I learned to see quickly formed, extremely high levels of interest coming from the other person as a red flag. Regardless, not being seen as a whole person is crushing
I can't believe I use to think this movie was romantic! I re-watched this movie a year or so ago and it's amazing how life experiences and just maturing in general really makes you take off the rose colored glasses (bc like Wanda said from BoJack Horseman: "If you look at life with rose colored glasses, you'll miss all the red flags")
Im surprised you guys weren’t jiving with the nonlinear narrative! It’s actually one of my favorite movies because of how this movie told its story.
I thought the most special thing about this movie is how it plays like a bunch of memories: jumping around to good moments and juxtaposing it with the bad moments. It’s almost like you’re having a conversation with a person who is sharing so many details and experiences they’ve had with another person. And sometimes, those details aren’t shared in order either. The numbered title cards with the weather was a nice touch, indicating Tom’s mental space throughout his literal season of life from the moment he first laid eyes on Summer to the closure he finds when he finally releases his fantasy of her.
There’s so much to unpack, but from a storytelling standpoint, the nonlinear narrative is a nice approach to telling Tom’s journey. And I think it’s clever that the girl he meets in the end is Autumn, not just because Autumn comes after Summer literally, it also metaphorically means Tom has reached a new season of life.
This reaction felt very one-sided. None of you guys even tried to empathize with Tom. Especially in the end when they meet each other in the park. JGL's face broke me even though I knew he was mostly in the wrong for trying to project his dream girl onto her but they way he looked at her just hurt my heart.
I think they're both somewhat in the wrong. Tom definitely moreso because Summer clearly stated several times how she doesnt believe in love, doesnt want anything serious and he should have respected that and not pursued a relationship if it wasnt what he wanted. He's too stuck on this idea of the "perfect woman" to really see Summer as an actual person. And the end proves that he hasnt really learned his lessons. And just like the seasons, his relationships will be cyclical. But I also think Summer is also to blame a bit. I do think genuinely liked Tom and was trying her hardest to feel something for him but she should have been honest and broke things up with him earlier (especially after the whole "we're a couple damn it" speech). You know he clearly is more into you then you are into him and yet you continue with the relationship. Again, Im sure she was really trying to make herself find that spark for Tom and so maybe it was a bit unintentional on her part - but she was leading him on a bit.
why does watching ur channel teach me more life lessons than 19 years on this earth
If a guy did this, he would be considered an asshole. If you have no love to give to a person, don't lead them on, don't sleep with them, don't give them hope. That is just mean. Neither men nor women should do that.
Edit: shit i didn't know your gf was Ukrainian. Hope she reaches Poland safely man.
The first time I watched this, i sympathized with tom despite being a girl. Second time at 20, they both felt wrong. An year later, both had flaws but Tom and his fanboys but more toxic. Also loved the spin on Zoey's celeb persona and manic pixie roles she plays.
This is mostly my opinion but I feel like men and women treat friends w benefits relationships differently because there's such drastic difference between the way men and women treat regular friendships. I'm not saying this is for everyone, but in my experience women treat their friends with a higher level of intimacy, whereas most men specifically receive their intimacy through romantic relationships. I think a lot of women carry that kind of intimacy into casual relationships because to them it is casual and normal but what's expected from the men is just a "bro" type friendship, but with a girl they have sex with.
anyone who sympathizes with tom/sees summer as a bitch or whatever missed the point of the movie. it's like.. all those 'manic pixie dream girl' trope movies where a sad creative boy meets a fun and quirky girl who gives meaning to his life, tom assumes summer will be that for him.. but the problem with that trope is that it ignores that women are people with their own desires and dreams, not just put on earth to save some man from his existential dread or whatever. so this movie shows the early days more through tom's MPDG filter, even though the audience should see that in reality she's her own person and he ignores a lot of things she explicitly says and does and projects all these unfair expectations onto her
5:13 I feel like 'Other Mother's Day' is a brainstorm that actually happened in a board room somewhere. *smh*
5:38 "Kids with same-sex parents don't have to buy cards on two days a year".... Well... We still make our son do cards on two days a year. LOL. As the mom that gave birth, I get 'Mother's Day' (Momma's Day) and my wife gets celebrated on 'Father's Day' (Mommy's day). Our five year old loves this!
I remember when this movie was so popular but I couldn’t get behind it because JGL’s character made me SO angry 😅
I remember watching this movie when I was 16 and empathising with Tom and even though I am a girl I assumed Summer was this b***** person who just didn't know what she wanted and led him on and that's why I never really liked the movie. This was my 1st time watching it after like 7 years and honestly this was therapy for me because hearing your conversation and reading all the comments made me realize I was too emotionally immature just like Tom to actually realize the point of the movie and this mindset of placing a blame on someone and making them the bad guy while someone's a protagonist who's just going through life and bad things are happening to him it's not really how life works and it's just full of messy people and really honestly what works out is communication. so yeah I had a good time thanks for the reaction :)
The hilarity of calling Buildings in America 'old'!!! *laughs in european* A great commentary as always! Thank you for the much needed distraction and fun! Keep up the good work! :)
People didnt realized that this movie is about 2 people in the same relationship that viewed the whole thing as opposites. People always need to blame demonized someone on movies. I believe this is very neutral in this sense. Also i like how they shift in the end, Summer is now a romantic and Tom is more logic and cold.
Human brain is very complex, both characters are confused. Tom is immature and Summer is indecisive but on the other hand these happens a lot in real world, sometimes we are Tom and sometimes we are Summer. They are not bad people, just a very complex imperfect human beings and will probably get mature as time goes by.
the tom and ted connection is so real woah idk how i never noticed
The narrator is definitely supposed to be sarcastic with those sweeping general statements, especially since he says "and he was sure of it" right as he decides to ask autumn out anyways
I really hope you're doing good sam and wishing that your girlfriend finds safety 🙏🏾💜
Thanks so much! She’s safe for now, hopefully she can get out soon though 🙏 - Sam
This was the most depressing movie I've ever seen, but i love Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoey Deschanel so i keep rewatching
I just wanted to say that I am so glad your girlfriend is ok, You and your girlfriend deserve the world you are both kind people please take care and I wish you all good health and good fortune
7:00 "A certain amount of bitchiness is just time saving. ... How many times can you kindly deal with someone's bullshit?" THIS! This point right here is why tourists think that New Yorkers are rude. They're not. But they don't have time for tourists BS, like stopping them on the street for directions, or restaurant recommendations, or just plain getting in the way. They have somewhere to be and things to do. No one wants to be stopped when on their way to work. It's aggravating.
I love how someone asking for directions ruins a New Yorker's day 😂 Learned something new about New York today!
@@TheEmeraldLady "ruins a New Yorkers day"... that's definitely NOT what I said, but an interesting inference you made.
I remember thinking when this movie first came out that summer was the antagonist and now, as a (hopefully) more mature 34 year old , I definitely see she was NOT.
The soundtrack was simply stunning. The Smiths, hello, and Regina Spektor.
Glad to hear that Maria is doing much better and wayy safer now, my best wishes go out to you guys
Feel free to take as much time as you need to recover, we're not going anywhere💙
This movie grinds my gears on how Thomas, by the end of the movie, learns practically NOTHING about his own feelings and is still awarded with another woman in the end - and obviously in the same light, of him projecting a love story with someone he doesn't know. He basically didn't change. It frustrated me because.... It is what happens in real life. People like that don't change easily.
But that’s the point, right? I’ve never taken the ending as him ‘getting the girl’ but as him about to get into another cycle exactly the same. I don’t think he really changed or learned anything. The woman’s name is even Autumn! 😅
Hi Sam I hope you and your girlfriend Maria are doing well you both are in my thoughts and prayers 💕💕💕 Sending lots of love.
Thanks so much! For now, we’re good. Just waiting for the right time for her to travel to the Polish border - Sam
Yes, he should understand that she doesn't want someone serious, but you don't treat someone like they are your significant other when you "Just want something casual". Both of them are in the wrong.
Its funny how I see some people really hate on Tom and others reaaaalllly hate on Summer. Both because it reminds them of people they know or have known.
Used to be a lot of Summer hate but now the pendulum has swung pretty hard to Tom hate. I see all the time people say the movie idolizes tom....when it sounds like they idolized tom more. Thought the movie did a pretty good job of saying tom was being dumb and immature.
My problem with most people's interpretation of this movie is that they condemn Tom but absolve Summer of any wrongdoing... Yeah, Tom sucks with his creepy and oblivious idolization of Summer, but then, she basically plays with him (maybe not on purpose, but still), just because she said twice at the start that she isn't looking for something serious, doesn't erase the almost entire year of exclusive relationship she had with the guy that she knew was looking for a ltr... Yeah, if you sum up everything, Tom is definitely worst, but she isn't just an innocent victim... I guess my main point is, just because Tom sucks, doesn't mean Summer is good, they both have their faults in that messy relationship
Yeah, we pointed out her faults during this. There’s at least a few fairly large ones - Sam
@@themoviebudz1988 yeah, you guys got it ✨
Agreed. It seems like many people need there to be a good guy and a bad guy un every story but I think those people are missing the point. Both Tom and Summer are flawed and both of their actions contributed to the end of their relationship (as is usually the case in real lufe).
I was """"""friendzoned""""""" (using that term very loosely) by a guy, but I enjoy our friendship. Except his was more along the lines of, "you deserve someone who isn't me" (there are personal things going on) rather than, "yeah I don't really like you like that." At least he was honest and upfront about it. Sure I cried for maybe a few minutes but I got over being a little sad about it because he didn't do anything wrong and he wasn't just throwing out the "we can still be friends" to save my feelings. I think we like each other enough to respect each others' decisions and boundaries. And then he asked if I was mad at him 😭. I was thinking sir, my guy, buddy... you were one of the most respectful and honest guys I met.
One time he apologized for falling asleep when it was pretty late at night lol. Like I'm going to be like it's past 11 PM after you had a long day at work and you dare to fall asleep because you're "exhausted"?? The disrespect smh
I know you're going through stressful times, right now, because your loved one's safety was in jeopardy. Please take all the time you need to heal. 💛💙
When you come back, can you guys watch '27 Dresses'?? It's one of my favorite Romcoms and Katherine Heigl movies of all time. 🥺🙏🏾💓
Thanks for your support! We’re doing our best. She’s staying safe until she can travel to the border and I’m trying not to think too hard about the things I can’t change.
Yeah, 27 dresses is definitely on the list, but we do have some other movies lined up before that so I can’t say exact timing on it 😊 - Sam
Tom must’ve interpreted his and Summer’s interactions at Millie’s wedding as, “Do you wanna dance, or do you wanna *dance*?”
JGL really had to deal with overexplaining his movies, Don Jon always comes to mind when talking about 500 days of summer. Definitely would be interesting to see your guys thoughts on it.
"it gets dry because its wet!?" almost ended me xD This movie sukcks but i loved this video so much. Sending love and support to you Sam and to Maria, I hope you're holding up ok. Thank you guys for still giving us content!
"it gets dry because it's wet?" the nonsense of life in a phrase HAHAHAHAHAHA
it always gets to me when they’re in bed and she says “I’ve never told that to anything” and he’s not even listening to her
This movie takes the manic pixie dream girl and turns it on its head.
Not to say the person I’m talking about is exactly like JGL character in this movie but there were definitely similarities. The guy I was talking to was very insecure in himself and definitely projected his own expectations and imagination onto others. If things didnt go his way or how he imagined them or I didn’t conform to that expectation he would lash out at me. I wasn’t ready to say I love you? Im a walking robot. Mind you we had only been hanging out for less than a month at this point. We’d hung out like four times in total at this point and instead of respecting boundaries he lashed out and ruined any chance of things getting to where he wanted them to. He would text me after dates telling me how much Id made him feel insecure in himself because I had work to do and wouldn’t stay for as long as he wanted me to, other things like that. He’d just blame me for not acting how he’d imagined and for having boundaries his dream girl didn’t have. It made me feel insecure and like something was wrong with me at times. I think it’s a common thing amongst people who are very insecure in themselves, regardless of gender, they just imagine scenarios and project their fantasies onto others and if you don’t conform to that fantasy you are the problem. It’s a tough thing to deal with and I do feel bad for the guy I’m talking about and JGL character in this and all the sad boi tropes who experience that but at the end of the day it’s just broadcasting your own insecurities and being selfish and overcoming that is definitely a struggle. Not saying these people are entitled to what they are doing and hurting those around them in the process, just that I have empathy for the situation. I liked that you guys empathized with his character but also recognized all of the selfish and insecure qualities. Great reaction!
Movie: Tom meets Summer on Jan 8
Sam: They met on my birthday
Me: *chuckles*
Sometime later~
Movie: May 23rd was a Wednesday
Me: *snorts & chokes on my drink* (May 23 is my birthday)
[Maria and everyone else affected are in my hopes.]
I'm super glad Maria is safe and I'll pray for her continued safety ❤oh yes ! Idk if you guys have watched a serious thriller yet but please watch Midsommar your takes on it would be awesome 😌
Ringo is actually my favorite Beatle and I actually DO love Octopus’ Garden so I want to hear no Ringo slander. But I do kinda feel like most people believe that people like Ringo just to like the least liked one. Also, sending my love, thoughts, and prayers to you, Sam, and especially Maria. I have faith and am optimistic for the outcome of the situation and am praying she arrives in Australia safely and quickly. if she sends you any more resources please share ❤️ sending love and blessings to you as well Stef
oh man never watching this channel again lmao u guys are so senstive my god
fun fact: all the music in the movie is by groups/bands that have broken up... its one of my favorite movie soundtracks
I saw this movie because of my brother. He loves this movie and sunshine of the spotless mind and serendipty (also saw these because of him) He really is a sucker for certain romance stories, he told me🥰
Maybe this its not the place but i hope you guys and your loved ones are safe. 😞 We love you
Your support is always welcome Ludmila, thank you 😊🙏 - Sam
things were wild around this time period (HIMYM, this film, that awful book about going after women etc) and not saying they aren't still problematic but wow looking back at this time period is a bit jarring. this movie came out right around my freshman year of college. i had a really awesome guy friend. he was so cool and fun to hang out and a huge comfort to me being far from home. i was always clear and told him how much our friendship meant to me. well, i met a guy i really liked and we got together, romantically. i told the guy i thought was my friend, all excited to share my swoon-worthy news. he prompty told me to never speak to him again, and informed me that he'd be blocking my phone number and if i saw him on campus, to not even look at him because - and i quote - "it's too painful knowing you're with someone else." this movie really brought up memories of that moment. and i love your commentary (i always do) about him making her responsible for his happiness. i really enjoyed this film and the message, and your commentary. also, i just want to say i'm keeping you all and your loved ones in my thoughts
Yooo I'm so excited this is one of my all time favourite movies!! 🤩
You guys should react to Dreamgirls and Girls Trip.
Classic Schmosby!!😂😂you got me there
*Glad to hear your girlfriend is safe right now.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this movie wasn't that great. I saw it and thought, "It's okay, but why is Summer considered a bitch? What did she do wrong?"
I get what the movie was going for, but it didn't work for me
The creators and actors don't think Summer's a bitch, like, AT ALL, and that's not what the movie is trying to say either. The message the movie is trying to push is about how unhealthy mindsets like Tom's are. It's just that his mindset is so ingrained in our real society that a lot of people watched this movie (that frankly beats you over the head with how toxic Tom is) and still came out of it identifying with Tom and hating Summer. But that's not the movie's fault, idk how they could have made it any more obvious without it becoming a PSA. People just need more media literacy. Thankfully a lot more people are rewatching this film in recent years and re-evaluating the ideas they're taking from it and who is truly worth criticism.
I think going to ikea with someone you just met is the weird part. If I had to go to ikea and was single, I'm probably asking a guy friend to come with me in case I need help carrying something.
I think “this is a fucked up group of sentences” is my new favorite phrase
I’m praying for you and your girlfriend!