SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH MILWAUKEE PACKOUT STORAGE SYSTEM **I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!**

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  • Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
  • SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH MILWAUKEE PACKOUT STORAGE SYSTEM *I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!* the #VeryCoolGang deserves to know the serious problem with Milwaukee Tool #packout modular tool storage system especially the 3PC storage system. I cant believe that these serious problems with the Milwaukee packout are still occurring even after all the Tool Deals we've shared on the storage system. We talk through #Solutions to these problems, seriously.
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  • @roccoreid2842
    @roccoreid2842 4 года назад +62

    Vince, I would love to come analyze how you use your tools and how to help make it more efficient. Maybe, when I'm bored and need something to do I can come out on my own dime.
    I actually enjoy trying to find ways to be more efficient with tools, and I've tried some strange things sometimes to make it work. That bottom rolling box on the Packout is a beast to get into, and your concern is very much valid. I'm playing around with the Packout system myself, and have thought about a couple of options and will entertain other ideas down the road. I agree that moving these boxes off and then back on can be a pain in the arse. One solution (perhaps short-term until something better) is to buy more than one 3-piece system. I have bought two, plus some extra items. And if I need to get down to lower boxes, i simply take boxes off the top and then snap them into the top box of the other stack right next to the first. Not the best solution perhaps, but it works for now, and by doing that, I don't have to immediately stack them back onto the first stack, because they're still locked into the other stack and ready to wheel away if needed.
    Another plan i have is to purchase a cargo trailer. And when I've bought one, I'm going to customize the inside for efficient use. And one of the things I want to do is install shelving and then buy a bunch of those very overly-priced Packout black mounting plates ($29.99) and install them onto the shelves for my Packout Boxes. By doing this, each Packout box sits on it's own on the shelves. And then, I will "build" my stack according to the job and the tools needed (either on the job or the night before). This will require being hyper-organized and really putting some thought into what does and doesn't work, and to not give up when something isn't working, and instead, just tweak and tweak until I can get it perfect. Based on any particular job at hand, we should have a pretty good idea about what tools we need (including some leeway for a few extras that may or may not be needed, depending on the more specific requirements of that particular job. And so, the plan would be to be able to open up the trailer and take only the boxes needed, stack them onto the main roller box and roll down the ramp. To make it the most effective, it might be that the bottom box would be used for things that you probably don't need, but would like on hand in case you do. And quite frankly, that other overly-priced piece, the Tool Storage Crate (for the insane price of $40.25), might actually be handy. I could stack the boxes I need and then the final topper could be the empty crate where I could then drop in my driver, saw and whatever other power tool I need. Any particular task shouldn't really need that many power tools. So then, I'm off to the races. I roll the box to the location of the work, maybe pull the top crate and set it aside, and then get to work. The other stuff I know I'll need will now be in the top box and easiest to access. And the lower the box, the least likely it will be that I'll need what's in it. It's possible that the biggest bottom box is rendered useless other than the wheels, so i can brainstorm some different solutions, including modifying the box so that I can access the contents from the side, or maybe I do a mod where that box becomes the battery charging station. If the bottom box were to be modified for side access, it might be that you would have to store one or two less tools in it to make it easier, because if you're cramming as much in there as you can now with top access, it's going to be nearly impossible to get tools back in there properly with side access. I'm also going to experiment with designing some pieces on my 3D printer. It might take me awhile, because I don't really have to go work so there is no rush, but if you're interested, I'll keep you updated on my progress.

    • @IceBergGeo
      @IceBergGeo 4 года назад +1

      I've got the crates, and use them just for that purpose. Always sits on top. I also have a 4 wheeled cart I use to carry around materials and such for job I'm doing, so I can bring large amounts of big connectors and couplings that would be wasteful to store in the packout system. The packout boxes amazingly fit almost perfect into the top of it and allows for easy access into the bottom big tool box.

    • @jonno9293
      @jonno9293 4 года назад +2

      If it was branded as a ryobi and green in colour would you buy it.

    • @IceBergGeo
      @IceBergGeo 4 года назад

      @@jonno9293 same manufacturer at least... But, if it was as good, quite likely.

    • @roccoreid2842
      @roccoreid2842 4 года назад +1

      @@jonno9293 Nope LOL Luckily, the mindset behind such a horrendous color matches that of the mindset behind substandard tools. :)

    • @charlesbourgeois9029
      @charlesbourgeois9029 4 года назад

      Haha

  • @bmwestmoreland
    @bmwestmoreland 4 года назад +42

    I’d like to see them take 25-30% off across the board on Packout. I like the idea of Packout, I prefer milwuakee tools. But honestly. I don’t see how you can sell injection molded storage cases that cost more than some of their tools.

    • @azza-in_this_day_and_age
      @azza-in_this_day_and_age 8 месяцев назад

      the warranty mite be baked into that price, lifetime is no joke. they prolly wont stand by it anyways but i dunno

  • @jareddory2155
    @jareddory2155 3 года назад +31

    5:50 your expecting to empty a large box (say 3x3) into a small bag (16in)... unrealistic expectations and then to be upset that it doesn’t all fit.

    • @aidangattinger8975
      @aidangattinger8975 3 года назад +1

      @David McKee The milwuakee would probably last a lot longer, and your also paying for the fact that it attaches to the packout.

    • @Lee-lb9qh
      @Lee-lb9qh 2 года назад

      @David McKee my husky bag has held up great I love it its high quality

  • @michaelc2056
    @michaelc2056 4 года назад +3

    Ive been watching your channel recently and thank you for your insight to these products. I held off for a while, but recently home depot had a one day internet sale on 4 piece Fuel tools sets( drill, impact, mini sawsal and angle grinder with two 5.0 batteries and charger and the large pack out rolling box for $399. The package stated that it was $1040 worth of tools. The deals are out there and your right $279 for just the boxes are insane. When I was able to purchase all these products for $130 more.

  • @robertrice6679
    @robertrice6679 4 года назад +11

    Vince, I love your energy! I love the fact that you speak what you experience such as the Husky bag works for you better than the Packout. I love Milwaukee tools, however I actually have the Ridgid modular tool boxes and have used Kaizen foam to rig it the way that works for me. FYI the Ridgid boxes in my opinion are the most durable and flexible for the money.

  • @HairyLoveHandles
    @HairyLoveHandles 4 года назад +42

    Imagine a Milwaukee packout box with sliding drawer fronts so you don't have to open every box

    • @carls7924
      @carls7924 3 года назад +4

      The bottom one at least. Tha would be dope

    • @mitchellarmyguy2515
      @mitchellarmyguy2515 3 года назад +14

      Guess they listened fellas. 2 and 3 drawer options are now available.

    • @jamieamat893
      @jamieamat893 3 года назад +1

      @@mitchellarmyguy2515 can't have it as the bottom box with the wheels sadly

    • @mitchellarmyguy2515
      @mitchellarmyguy2515 3 года назад +3

      @@jamieamat893 I'm not sure the 250lb weight capacity would hold up if they cut drawers in the rolling box. For the main purpose of a packout system you gotta have a strong base.

    • @noelv1976
      @noelv1976 2 года назад

      Maybe bottom one doesn't need drawers, but maybe a small opening to get to your power drills, if at all possible. I'm pretty sure the engineers can come up with something like that

  • @chrisg3210
    @chrisg3210 4 года назад +1

    I recently upgraded to the Packout about a month ago. I also had the Husky rolling bag to put all of my tools in too. I found the 3 piece Packout for $200, but I also bought the 10” Tote to put all of my hand tools in because it fits perfectly in my rolling box. I bought an additional large box to keep my power tools in since one box wasn’t enough. Even though I did spend $300+ for whole package it keeps everything organized and I don’t have mismatched tools boxes to take on the job site. Plus the Husky bag can only stack a certain amount of tool boxes.

  • @detale7633
    @detale7633 4 года назад +12

    Yeah Vince. No "I told you so" here. Trying something new isn't a flaw it's how we get better as tradesman. Kudos sir and welcome back to the best tool bag ever.

  • @mifthemedic7307
    @mifthemedic7307 4 года назад +12

    I keep my belt and other wearable gear in the bottom case so it usually isn’t much of a problem because I take it out for the day then but it back at the end but I understand some people keep their power tools in that bottom box.

  • @active4delta
    @active4delta 4 года назад +1

    Love your approach to gear. Glad to see you saying that a product from a company you love isn’t worth buying at full price.
    Thanks for the honesty!

  • @user-qh1os9qo8u
    @user-qh1os9qo8u 4 года назад +9

    I bought two 3 piece packout last thanksgiving. I’m happy with them

    • @challenging100y4
      @challenging100y4 2 года назад

      我有中间那个,感觉这套还是差点火候lol

  • @coreybizzaro4428
    @coreybizzaro4428 4 года назад +6

    Thanks to you, I also scored it for 174. It’s 279 by me now. I was considering a 2nd but not at the full retail.

    • @snowshyt06
      @snowshyt06 2 года назад

      Where and how shiiiitt

  • @drixom9805
    @drixom9805 4 года назад +8

    I am just getting into the business nothing like full time. I looked at packout and just couldn't justify the price. I ended up going with the craftsman a la carte offering. The main box is 60 bucks the add on boxes are 20 to 40 bucks. Their new tool sets have the latches built in so everything connects securely. My 5 cordless tools fit all my hardware goes in the organizer. Hand tools go into a technicians box.

  • @fournier1592
    @fournier1592 4 года назад +14

    COULD NOT AGREE MORE. I bought the bottom crate seperatly and ive been building my system based on what I ABSOLUTELY NEED.

  • @DaimeanN
    @DaimeanN 4 года назад +1

    Big fan from Australia here.
    I bought the packout system (rolling toolbox, large toolbox, 2 half organisers, 1 full size organiser and the half size tote) a while back because I modernise elevators. It's great most of the time and cumbersome the rest of the time, let me tell you why.
    I change locations many times in the building and we actually have a storage room, so loading and unloading from a vehicle isn't a problem. The large wheels are great for going up stairs, and crossing over the elevator threshold. The system locks well, very durable and have quite a few configurations, but that's where the positives end.
    The rolling tool box doesn't have 4 wheels, this makes lugging nearly 80kg of tools around the place quite tiring because you HAVE to lean the stack over and then push or pull it wherever you need it. This could be fixed by having some good swivel wheels on the front. The rolling toolbox wheels do get flat spots on them when it stays stationary for a couple of days, not a big problem, but it is noticeable. Dragging all your tools out of the rolling toolbox is annoying, I wish there was a supplied organisation kit. Would really like someone to finally bring out a box that have stackable draws to eliminate the unstacking and restacking of every box you have.
    There is nowhere to store a spirit level and no customisable internal organisation kits. This box is not made for all trades, definitely not metal workers. I am aware that I can make something to organise the tools internally, but 8 don't have the time to do it.
    Edit: the tote annoys me. It's so rigid and tight that it's difficult to use ALL the pockets it provides.

  • @Shmankafy
    @Shmankafy 4 года назад +3

    Hey Vince, I'm a Steamfitter and a Plumber. I know exactly what you are talking about when it comes to the Packout moving tools in and out of the worksite. I ended up putting my 80% Tools (which means the tools I use 80% of the time given any task) and ended up keeping some of the tools (the 20% big gun kinda tools) in the truck to reduce the weight of what I was carrying. For example I put my Fuel Hackzall in the Packout, leave the Fuel Sawzall in the truck.
    The price on these systems are wildly different based on retailers. In Canada we had a really amazing promotion with the bottom box, the Impact, Hammer Drill, and Sawzall w/ Batteries and a Charger with another Promo Battery for an amazing price point. I told two of my colleagues they wouldn't get any better deal to enter in the system. One of them purchased it, the other regretted not doing so.
    Keep up the content brother, it's always nice seeing a contractors opinion be clean, and clear.

  • @bmj2k7
    @bmj2k7 4 года назад +1

    I've done construction off and on for over a decade, mostly on. It's nice when you see other professionals give honest opinions on something, especially anyone on RUclips with sponsors.
    I love Husky tools and bags, wish they made power tools. And I like Milwaukee and Dewalt power tools. I like buying better quality tools, so I don't have to buy them again. And those are my preferred brands. And even the new Rigid gen 5 has impressed me. So it's good to see someone who likes a brand that much, and still you say don't buy it at that price.

  • @timothysanders431
    @timothysanders431 4 года назад +3

    Vince I've just retooled my truck with a huge packout system. I suspected this problem, what I've done is I'm in the high end kitchen business. And I have a huge lift on my truck . So rather than over loading the wheels I strap it to my dolly. I realize not everyone has this option. But I think this will work long term for me . It's still easier than carrying a bunch of bags and organizers. But I've been watching your videos and learning your scores . And take your advice .

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  4 года назад

      Thanks Timothy, we appreciate the feedback!!

  • @hometronicsflllc3952
    @hometronicsflllc3952 4 года назад +3

    I love my packout so far. Our van has the plates now so you can build it as you need onto the base. Works great. Sorry you had issues bro!

  • @robertbossa623
    @robertbossa623 4 года назад +2

    Vince - love my packout for handy man missions. I do have to load & unload them to get them into my pick up truck.
    My #1 surprise is when I left them loaded with tools - the wheels developed flat spots. I contacted Milwaukee & they sent me new wheels, but I now place the bottom packout on an 1/8” piece of laminate & it keeps the weight off the wheels.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  4 года назад

      We appreciate the feedback Robert

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад

      That's another issue. Milwaukee should raise the wheels up a little or put a thicker bottom on the Rolling Box.

  • @flexplumb1
    @flexplumb1 4 года назад +2

    Always love the videos Vince. I only use the packout for storing tools and materials on the truck I very rarely take it off.. I feel like the milwaukee 24" toolboxes get it done the best for me idk if Milwaukee makes them any more

  • @michelelanni9205
    @michelelanni9205 4 года назад +12

    And this is why I subscribed
    Cause of your honesty, the headaches you guys go through to help us out
    And making us purchase the best tools on the market at the lowest price possible
    For that i say Thank you to you and the whole crew of VCG Construction
    Thanks to you guys, this is not a joke, since i found your channel whenever i need a specific tool, i look for a review from you guys and see and its worth the money and i check for the lowest price possible, before i ever even knew the existence of your channel i use to make stupid purchases and then regret it
    So again thank you for your efforts you guys rock
    Ps: i made my brother-in-law and my father subscribe to your channel even though if my father doesn’t understand English, so he puts italian subtitles 😂

  • @rudygarcia9782
    @rudygarcia9782 4 года назад +2

    Husky’s 22” connect rolling system is an amazing deal for the price. I use it everyday in new construction and it rolls over everything mud/dirt/ large gravel without issue. 1 year of hard use and it’s still going strong. It also fits under my tundra’s bed cover

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад

      Yea, the Rolling Packout Box needs a shorter handle or a way of easily removing the handle.

  • @mikefeil3568
    @mikefeil3568 4 года назад +3

    Got a 3 pc Packout and works great. Got a 2nd Bottom Roller case w/ a 2nd top box w/my m12 Drill & Impact Driver (which rocks). But this stuff stays mainly in the van. Got a similar soft sided roller than mostly comes in to job. Tough to find one system that works for every situation.

  • @roadeomagic
    @roadeomagic 4 года назад +1

    I'm with you on that note Vince, that's why I waited for the sale you mentioned. I was not going to spend that much money (but I was tempted until reality kicked in 😆). Like you, I've had the same problem. I just try to keep the tools that I don't use on a regular basis in the bottom box. Even though the functionality is to be questioned, the idea is good. Sometimes, you have take the good with the bad. Maybe you just might need a second box, like the person said in a previous comment. Just my opinion. Best of luck buddy

  • @tylersmith9868
    @tylersmith9868 4 года назад +3

    The Milwaukee packout boxes are pretty well made, I picked up a parts organizer box and found that it was just too big. In dimensions it's much larger than my dewalt boxes but offers the same amount of storage inside maybe the slightest bit more. Packout box didn't fix on my shelf in utility van so I'm sticking with the dewalt boxes

    • @chrislukasiewicz7352
      @chrislukasiewicz7352 4 года назад

      I used the 11 bin organizer to keep all my electric meters (megohmeter, clamp meters, manometers, temp clamp probes, k type thermocouples, infrared, etc.) Organized. Just removed all the bins except one to hold all my thermocouples.

  • @jpyoudontknowme7429
    @jpyoudontknowme7429 4 года назад +8

    If the crate had an access point while stacked, the addition of lockable drawer system. Would help a lot

  • @jasonmcwilliams5881
    @jasonmcwilliams5881 4 года назад

    Hey Vince I have been using the pack out system for a year now and I have no complaints. I am finally organized and I no longer have an issue with employees not putting my tools away properly. Also I am no longer have tools come up missing makes it very easy to keep track of my tools at end of the day. Also when I'm working by myself it saves me a ton of time. It use to take at least 15 minutes to bring in all my different tools and bags now it takes me less then 5 minutes to bring my tools in and less then 5 to load back into my truck. Also I can fit all 3 pieces locked together in the back seat of my truck on 1 side and my pack out tool bag behind drivers seat. The pack out has been a god send for me and I think $279.00 is a small price to pay to keep me organized and all the time it has saved me. Every sub that I work with has went out and bought the pack out after seeing mine

  • @samfutch8994
    @samfutch8994 Год назад

    Man I just got my first few sections of the packout. I had a tool bag, two buckets, and a 30 gallon tote I was using. It's improved my work flow so much I'm gonna make my money back before September.

  • @davidrosing5788
    @davidrosing5788 4 года назад +2

    I didn't buy the packout boxes back in December because 1) I missed the sale, 2) it wouldn't fit in my house in my limited space, and 3) as you mention, it seemed cumbersome. I liked the Packout soft-side tote, but, like Vince, I wasn't made of money. So I improvised: I noticed the $29 Husky 15 inch soft-side tote had 5 feet on the bottom that nested very nicely into the top plate of the low-profile Packout 5-compartment organizer (The half-wide). 5 Bolts through the tote's feet into the lid of the low profile Packout organizer firmly attached both to each other. That not only gave me storage below the tote, (I can still open the box to get access) but it added a Packout bottom attachment plate that, in turn, allows me to attach it to other Packout boxes. I bought two of the standard height 5-parts organizers, (also half-wide) so my tote assembly can snap onto those. So my stack is half the width of the 'standard' Packout boxes.
    I hadn't thought about it, but if I needed to wheel it around, I'd just use my standard folding hand-truck I got from Uline. I don't think I'd need to get a Packout plate to mount it to the hand truck, as a bungee should hold it fine during wheelie ops, but I suppose you can get the Packout mount plate if you wanted to if you didn't mind the hand-truck not being able to fold up.
    Edit: I just noticed the newly released Packout compact tool box that is also half as wide as the standard Packout boxes, so this will fit my stack as well. Perhaps a rolling half-wide tool box is coming soon?

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад

      Hey, maybe that compact tool box would be great for hand tools? It's height and bins may allow tools to be vertically stacked.

    • @davidrosing5788
      @davidrosing5788 4 года назад +1

      @@bryanmcfarland967 Don't see any reason why it can't. It comes with the interior tray as well as the quick-set dividers, so that will help the tools stay vertical. Plus it has the weather seal that the totes don't obviously have. Looks like it just came out. P/N 48-22-8422

  • @ToolReviewZone
    @ToolReviewZone 4 года назад +4

    Husky makes some awesome bags, but that price jump is insane. Great video brother 👊👊

  • @trainer2018
    @trainer2018 4 года назад +1

    Packout actually has been working good for me. I haven't had any problems with my wheels yet but I'll let you know. I'm a Mobile Diesel Diagnostic Tech/ Full Time Transit Tech and I use it to carry all my Diag Equipment. Plus I did a custom job with a packout case to hold my Picoscope in it. I'll do a video and share it with everyone.

  • @leonardhall7203
    @leonardhall7203 4 года назад +14

    You have the exact same accessibility issue with every brand that makes a similar/comparable system. What you don't have with the others is the amount of options

    • @danielsegreti4475
      @danielsegreti4475 3 года назад +1

      Couldn’t agree more. This dudes on some infomercial bullshit with his examples of frustrating situations with the packout system.

    • @chaosknilch5085
      @chaosknilch5085 3 года назад

      If you are going fo a standard 3 Stack, stanley has a nice system with a pullout drawer at the bottom

  • @JohnnyUmphress
    @JohnnyUmphress 4 года назад +6

    I hear what you're saying and you are right for your situation. But for me, I thoroughly love the Packout. And I am not a soft-side bag guy either. I use the small top box of my Packout for my handtools. I built a tool pallet system in the box. It works for me. Each to his own.

  • @owent2032
    @owent2032 4 года назад +3

    It's too late Vince ! Already bought it . And I love have all my tools with me when I go to a job site . I hate walking back and forth to my truck getting tools I need to finish the job.

  • @robertgemski7728
    @robertgemski7728 4 года назад +7

    @VCG packout is still the best offering out there in my humble carpenters opinion. That being said there is absolutely room for improvement.....my biggest gripe Vince is the wheels on the big wheel box....😡 wheels on two separate boxes went “off the rim” idk if it is heat/cold ,heat/cold that affects the materials or what. BUT my solution was a slightly longer axle and some tractor supply replacement tires.

    • @unlikelyninja8345
      @unlikelyninja8345 4 года назад +2

      Can you please share with us the part you used to replace the wheels on your packout rolling tool box? I'm having a really hard time finding a replacement 9 inch wheel with all terrain tread, better construction, and proper fitment on the packout existing axle.

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад +1

      @@unlikelyninja8345 I wish the wheels were 8 or 10 inches. Harbor Freight has 8 and 10 inch wheels with a steel hub and solid rubber wheel.

    • @itluis2009
      @itluis2009 4 года назад +1

      can you share the wheels from tractor supply ?

  • @adampeplau3998
    @adampeplau3998 4 года назад +14

    I foot travel to much doing service work and just wish BIG RED would make a medium wheeled 20" packout service bag. No one want to be all lop sided carrying totes all day. It's bad for your back.

  • @jay-rus4437
    @jay-rus4437 4 года назад

    This is why we just decided to set up 6’x12’ cargo trailers with full custom interior storage setup for our renovations business. No load and unload the truck everyday. We have been pulling the cargo setup for 3-1/2 years now and its awesome. We have everything we could possibly need on the trailer, and then just pull out the tools etc needed for that days tasks. We each have a soft side bag for basic everyday tools....impact, tape, hammer, screwdriver etc., but all of our other tools remain on the trailer. Circular saw, jig saw, compound miter saw, reciprocating saw, oscillating saw, router, demo tools, and we also have brute tubs labeled for each specific trade....paint, carpentry, tile, drywall, plumbing, electrical etc.
    Ive tried these various pack out type systems, but they just are user friendly on a day to day basis. We do have some components of the systems, but not as a single comprehensive set up

  • @everythingsucks6086
    @everythingsucks6086 2 года назад +1

    Your Awesome 👌!!! I'm definitely a VCG fan now!!! I'm new to this channel, but I've been building for almost 20 years. I've recently invested ALOT of $$$ in Milwaukie Tools, (trying to go full cordless) and while, Yes! I love there stuff! It is very expensive!!! Thanks for the honesty brother!! Much love and respect!!

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Kurt, glad the content is helpful for you! 👍🏻

  • @brettervin4295
    @brettervin4295 3 года назад

    Got the roller for $90! Had the 20 inch soft side bag which I got for $40 and another packout case that came with the fuel impact for free. Love the system so far!

  • @machinenerd452
    @machinenerd452 4 года назад +2

    Great review regardless of what others are saying.......everyone gets hung up on brands.....but mixing different tools and tools boxes is far more efficient and will save you big financially!

  • @Maxkil
    @Maxkil 4 года назад +5

    Hey Vince, I would really like to have drawers in the boxes for the same reason. Having to unpack every thing to get to bottom

    • @marcthompson7399
      @marcthompson7399 4 года назад

      You are so right!!! Wanted this idea for ages! I bet they are just waiting for us to buy our systems then make us spend again when they release it.

    • @luisy214
      @luisy214 2 года назад

      They have them now lol

  • @hollywood2671
    @hollywood2671 4 года назад +1

    As a locksmith, safe and vault technicians and automotive locksmith it allows me a work tailored approach. Love the packout. I agree with you assessment though. But for my scope of work it's perfect. Left is safes center is installs and hardware and right is key cutting from standard to sidemill automotive programming. Grab and go.

  • @singlefather01
    @singlefather01 4 года назад

    I am a Milwaukee fan as well as Festool and Woodpeckers, and I am getting one as soon as the price budges in a little. My collection of Milwaukee tools is growing fast. I love their framing nailers and super sawmill. I wish they are made in US for a few hundred more.

  • @chevyman6999
    @chevyman6999 4 года назад +3

    Vince, thanks for your honesty!

  • @jameselam8263
    @jameselam8263 4 года назад +44

    Milwaukee has a bunch of new Packout gear coming out this year I say hold that thought and see what happens. But yes your right $279 is to high.

    • @angryfatass
      @angryfatass 4 года назад

      Do you have a link? I tried to look it up but I can't find anything.

    • @randalljacobson9166
      @randalljacobson9166 4 года назад +1

      Home Depot has a price drop to $199 now. Little more worth it at the price

    • @jameselam8263
      @jameselam8263 4 года назад

      @@angryfatass I just know based off what my local rep has told me about new stuff coming out. But I've only seen one new box so far.
      Some Depot's have dropped prices on the sets you just have to keep an eye open for it.

    • @masonschild8358
      @masonschild8358 4 года назад

      Randall Jacobson where at? Nothing online or in stores here. Unless yours is trying to sell old Black Friday stock still

    • @randalljacobson9166
      @randalljacobson9166 4 года назад

      @@masonschild8358 in Jacksonville, FL. Online prices still show $279 but in the store they are stickered a$199. I didn't realize online still showed the 279.

  • @imokuok1993
    @imokuok1993 4 года назад +8

    Milwaukee needs to make a rolling system that is flat with those same 9 inch wheels and can lock the packout system with the long handle to pull it. Boom problem solved!

  • @mantislife7463
    @mantislife7463 4 года назад

    I've had a Veto Pro Pac for years and it's still in great shape. I would like some kind of power tool/charge station box to wheel around though and the Milwaukee looks promising.

  • @Antio666
    @Antio666 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the honest video. And what is wrong with DeWalt ToughSystem/tstack?

  • @RonPlumbs-mr7ei
    @RonPlumbs-mr7ei 3 года назад +1

    I couldn’t agree more. Everything you have said is true. I think the packout system is the best system on the market in the UK. The way the modular system clips together is fantastic. It’s great for transporting in and out of the van. The only major hurdle for me is, as you’ve said, the bottom modular box. Here in the UK it is priced so that the three tier system is logical your first buy. Then you expand from there.. having done this, I wish and would have been happier to have not purchased the three tier system and brought everything separately. The bottom box is the most confusing piece to the puzzle. If I want to take a number of tools to site easily I have to take the bottom box with me, of course because it’s the one with the wheels. So if I don’t use whatever I store in there, I still have to take it with me. People have said.. “only store tools that you use inside the bottom packout”. The trouble here is that when I only want those tools I have to take the worlds largest container with wheels and at this point an awkward handle. I highly recommend the packout but I feel Milwaukee should have made this trolley and bottom box as demountable separate items.

  • @DPacVV
    @DPacVV 4 года назад +3

    Good points Vince...I store the big stuff in the roller, large and in the medium gen 3 combo. Went To the 18 Milwaukee rolling tool box. 169. For excellent vertical and mobile storage.

  • @MyGuyKirby
    @MyGuyKirby 4 года назад +1

    Vince, i fully agree at retail of $279 and yet $199 is still a bit high. But for lash points, grab handles, and ease of locking together it is a great system. Something else on negative is that main box handle does not go down lower. It stand over the height of my truck bed so cannot use my cover so only rides and locks up inside the rear passenger floor.

    • @xeroblastx
      @xeroblastx Год назад

      I just tried puttin it in my covered truck bed and YES that handle not going down is a drag!

  • @ckcuev
    @ckcuev 4 года назад +1

    I love the packout and scored it for $157.50 during the holiday season. I, like you have other mobile storage options besides packout when I don't need that big of a storage system. I am going to get the husky when the price goes down because of the size and mobility. The one thing I've learned is none of these are perfect for every job. So the more options we have the better. So I'll use whatever I'll need for the project I'm working on.

  • @coltongrundy7625
    @coltongrundy7625 3 года назад

    I've been looking for an alternative solution to carrying my tools with me (I'm a mobile technician and audio installer) the packout system looked like a good system to invest into, but at $300 for some plastic 🤔🤔 there's gotta be a better, more convenient system somewhere ???? Or maybe I'll just do what I planned on for the past few years and just build something? My tools are heavy, my back, hips and knees aren't in love with excessive weight, so constantly removing boxes to get into the bottom section is a 100% no go for me. You're doing a great job and yes I know this is an old video but I'm here watching now as I've recently discovered the channel. You've helped me quite a bit and I appreciate what you do.

  • @kswis
    @kswis 4 года назад

    I got rid of my pack out boxes and bought the rigid boxes after the wheel broke on mine too. I REALLY like the clips on the sides of the rigid boxes. You don't have to try n hold the box while you awkwardly slide it while not sliding the entire setup. Everyone should try the rigid boxes I'm very happy with em. I still have em filled with miluakee goodies

  • @OnePercenterBiker
    @OnePercenterBiker 4 года назад +6

    I started off with the dewalt tool boxes... I loved them, until I discovered ONE flaw that dewalt shares with the Milwaukee. The handle on the bottom box sticks out too high, my bed cover won't close. I had to fold up the bed cover which left everything in my truck bed exposed to the elements and theft... I ended up switching to the Ridgid boxes. The handle goes down lower and let's my bed cover close... Just thought I would share this for anyone with a bed cover that is looking for a tool box system.

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад +2

      Great point! I just do handyman stuff with tools in car. I have to put my Rolling Packout Box in the back seat because the handle is just a few inches too tall for my trunk.

  • @BryanBowenArchangelBarachiel
    @BryanBowenArchangelBarachiel 4 года назад +2

    I am going to add quick handle disconnect in turn access to bottom box. I would like a larger packout box.

  • @brettcrawford7457
    @brettcrawford7457 4 года назад +59

    Someone has had a falling out with Milwaukee.

    • @KallenSC
      @KallenSC 3 года назад +2

      only temporary.....until milwaukee packout set is 199$ ;)

  • @mpbassline
    @mpbassline 4 года назад

    I absolutely love my packout with organizer. Daily use with no issues

  • @raptor_1474
    @raptor_1474 4 года назад +1

    Vince. I agree with ALOT of what you are saying. I’m a service plumber Unstacking to get the the box you need is a super pain. I think it really depends on your job. I do a fair about of service callls to condos on the ocean multiple floor units. Elevators. And what not. I would not trade my pack out for any amount of money. To be able to put. My grinder. Copper cutter. M12 pvc cutter. Screw gun Some packout clear lid organizers with my copper fittings Soft tote with all my hand tools and go up 18 floors and not have to come back I just couldn’t go back to how I use to do it before pack out

  • @LegendMuscle
    @LegendMuscle 3 года назад

    thankyou..
    all in all at the end of the day when the jobs done.. my cordless or things that don't get thrown into a pile (wrenches, sockets, extensions)
    get put away neatly.. when the job comes up, until its finished depending on job.. my tools and their associated accessories go into seperate cheap nylon bags with hard rubber pads that has been lasting and working for years.

  • @mjc8761
    @mjc8761 4 года назад +3

    Happy Saturday thx for your honesty

  • @jasoningram2006
    @jasoningram2006 4 года назад +3

    AWP has a big bag like the Husky bag at Lowe's that was on sale for $60. The only difference is it came with a 12in soft bag, 15in tote and hands down the only pair of knee pads I've ever found that I can actually wear. All of that for $60!!!

  • @CB-ld8no
    @CB-ld8no 4 года назад

    HD has a deal on specific Milwaukee hand tools. I got the 15" packout tote yesterday for under $80 with discount. I also like the Milwaukee fiberglass handle 19oz smooth face hammer $25. I have a couple of the old wide softside/hardtop Milwaukee rollerbags $50 HD clearance. So large rollerbag for powertools with soft cases inside rollerbag for most individual powertools. The other large roller bag is for roofs - sawsquatch, rafter/carpenter square, etc. I use a combination of 5 gal buckets for shims, handsaws, prybars, short levels, socket sets, screwdrivers. Well, many 5gal buckets for demo, interior trim, doorknobs, drywall, etc.

  • @Aepek
    @Aepek 4 года назад +1

    Knew you’d go back Vince, which is 100% fine bro. We like our “routines & habits”.....especially if ya makes you happy & get your storage setup just right for you👍🏻 thx for that $174 packout deal vid, bought a couple.

  • @LJones-zg6px
    @LJones-zg6px 4 года назад +3

    We are currently working on a 59 unit apartment building and the packout is acting like my trailer. Yes its heavy but for getting all my tools from kitchen to kitchen it's great (And we have onsite storage rooms). If i had to load it in and out of a truck every day (not so good). I feel this system is definitely designed with commercial/ large projects in mind. I won't be using this in a residential application. That's why i have a construction trailer.

    • @donfern4897
      @donfern4897 4 года назад

      Nobody needs that many tools everyday 😂 only purpose I see the packout system having is hauling out dirt oh wait they do have something for that a wheel barrel 😂 😂😂

  • @5ghostshadow
    @5ghostshadow 4 года назад +3

    All systems have pros and cons. I use Toughsystem for the boxes and Packout for the organizers.

  • @maxgoff3127
    @maxgoff3127 4 года назад

    Totally agree Vince. Here in Argentina, the pack of 3 boxes costs 350 dollars while other brands cost me a third.
    I can recognize that they do not have the quality of packout but at the time of work they fulfill the function.

  • @mattallen1660
    @mattallen1660 4 года назад +78

    I use the Rigid storage boxes and imo for the $ it’s a solid storage solution

    • @dillonhalligan660
      @dillonhalligan660 4 года назад +5

      Yeah me too. Best bang for your buck

    • @ucitymetalhead
      @ucitymetalhead 4 года назад +2

      Yep no complaints here.

    • @DaPiffMann
      @DaPiffMann 4 года назад +11

      I’m an electrician on a 20 man crew. We got 3 pack outs about 5 Dewalt box sets and 4 guys with Rigid. They all agree that pack out is the best.... especially if you’ve got stairs

    • @mattallen1660
      @mattallen1660 4 года назад +4

      I’m a glazier on a crew of about 25 no one has packout yet all either dewalt or rigid so I can’t speak on packout just in my opinion rigid is durable water resistant and fairly organized works well for me for 3 years now

    • @Mixmasterjablo
      @Mixmasterjablo 4 года назад +4

      Been using the rigid boxes for years doing commercial mill work and I have been super happy. Can't go wrong for all three boxes at $100 bucks.

  • @ccraig1177
    @ccraig1177 4 года назад

    I love the husky pro organizers for my hand tools great price and soo many pockets think I paid 29.99 for the 18" about 2 years ago still running strong

  • @bigrobbyd.6805
    @bigrobbyd.6805 4 года назад +1

    A great place to watch for deals on Milwaukee tools is Rural King, and they also carry the Packout system. I've often found they have better everyday prices than HD, such as when I saved almost $20 on the M18 multi-tool. They have pretty decent deals on Dewalt, too, for all you yella fellas.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  4 года назад +2

      Henceforth you will be known as DARTH 1970

  • @omarguerrero7347
    @omarguerrero7347 4 года назад

    Totally agree. Like you I have the husky I bought for $89 back in 2012-2013. I scored the packout for $199 and while it’s cool it’s cumbersome. My bag is back in my trailer

  • @2kingmr
    @2kingmr 4 года назад +3

    I do electrical work in large hospitals for me the pack out work!!!!! I spend 2 or 3 years in one job having everything i need with me every day is worth it but it definitely come at a price

  • @kennethdaughertyii2729
    @kennethdaughertyii2729 4 года назад

    I actually ended up getting my 3 piece Milwaukee Packout set on sale @ my local supply company for approx $150 total. I had Ridgid's comparable set prior to getting my Packout and I ABSOLUTELY Love my Milwaukee packout set! I wanted to, but just didn't buy it at full price. However, at the $150 I paid, I'm DEFINITELY Happy, except.......
    The bigger the Box the more tools I tend to put inside and I think I have bent my axle for my wheels. They kind of toe inwards at the top. But it still rolls fine and I treated it very harshly. Found out a couple days ago that it is truly waterproof to the Rain

  • @GoebelsDetailshop78
    @GoebelsDetailshop78 4 года назад +4

    I use it for my Mobile detailing but over time it got to be a pain in the butt , so I stopped using it

  • @simion33
    @simion33 4 года назад +1

    I almost got the Packout but doesn't seem fast enough to get into bottom boxes. Looks cumbersome like you said.. I'm waiting for Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0 or I'll just get the Rigid. Better value I think.

  • @theangrytechnician6649
    @theangrytechnician6649 4 года назад +1

    Couldn’t agree more! Has always seemed a bit pricy to me. Maybe one day I’ll catch it back at $179 and consider it then. But the Ridgid boxes work pretty good for what i use them for.

  • @SuperOGNick
    @SuperOGNick 4 года назад +14

    Mh pack out system stays on the truck, I’m still contemplating the $40 milk crate

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад +10

      That's another issue...Expensive! $40 for a Milwaukee milk crate when Rigid has it for half the price. I sometimes feel that Milwaukee is taking advantage of our respect (dare I say yearning) for the Milwaukee brand.

    • @theinterdimensionalchildmo9586
      @theinterdimensionalchildmo9586 4 года назад +3

      SuperOGNick yup mine stays in the truck as well, it’s funny, before I bought it I was concerned that I would have difficulty finding the value in it because I knew it was staying in the truck but now I’m actually pretty stoked with it.

    • @chrislukasiewicz7352
      @chrislukasiewicz7352 4 года назад +3

      I do HVAC/R work so it works great for me to keep all my tools organized and off the floor of my truck. My main service bag is a CLC backpack so my everyday tools sit in that. Stuff in the packout dont get used all the time.

  • @darylhoward7999
    @darylhoward7999 4 года назад

    Got the Packout on the $199 deal Home Depot has. Don’t go in and out of my bins a lot since this system went to organize at home and my work already provides bins for the power tools. Waited till I saw the price drop and my wife said “you need to organize”. Only negative is after getting mine I noticed a wheel wobble. All 32 at the store had the same wheel wobble on the right side. No good Milwaukee.

  • @djmidnightwolf
    @djmidnightwolf 4 года назад +4

    The Packout Tech Bag just dropped to $99. I picked it up for going into stores since I am limiting myself on space with some of the things I store in Milwaukee backpack like m12 screwdriver and bit kit. Haven't moved over to it yet and plan on getting the half size organizers to put my cat5, coax, screws and other things in it so I can just strap it to bottom with ease of use. I have a co-worker that has a whole Packout stack and refuses to say how much all it costed it. For the use like I plan on using it, I can see it working but I have seen a lot of the struggles you have mentioned.

  • @ryangriffin7574
    @ryangriffin7574 4 года назад +1

    Thankfully as a service tech I don’t have to unload and reload the boxes each day, I’ve figured out a configuration for my van that keeps them under my storage shelves

  • @keenanalbuoy3599
    @keenanalbuoy3599 2 года назад

    You are the man thank you for doing what you do I was on my way to go get one too but then I got in a motorcycle accident I'm still laying up in the hospital now but keep doing you and I'll keep watching happy holidays

  • @WOODY_85
    @WOODY_85 2 года назад +1

    Love your videos Vince, I see where you need the bigger husky bag. I am a hvac tech and I use the packout soft sided tool bag in my opinion it is more useful to people like me that are services techs its the most used bag in my truck but I still have my packout in my truck if needed

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  2 года назад

      Good stuff William, we appreciate the input!

  • @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
    @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 4 года назад

    I like the fact that the Packout keeps my cordless tools protected from moisture going from truck to job in the rain or snow... Tried the first cart 15 years ago, from ZAG...( Stanley ) IT was a good proof of concept, but was poorly built. Handles would pull clear out, and box was too small. But it had utility for a while. Later would throw a milk crate like thing on top of a separate rolling platform..... it was a few minutes in and out at each jobsite to stow everything. Power tools on top in a milk crate. Things could slide away, even with a bungee cord... when I had steps or a steep sidewalk. This past December, I got a Packout with 3 components. Almsot perfect.... it will slide right up the backside of my Sprinter vans bumper onto the bed without taking it apart first, or lifting of the whole thing. The wheels and handle are strong, much better than previous rolling carts I looked at. The downside is playing TETRIS in my van. I took out the MIDDLE box from mine, and put one of the CRATES on top. That gives me an optimal layout. A removable DRAWER system would make a good end of year release for 2021. Or perhaps a VAN UPFIT system for carts to lock onto van floor and wall. The Apex is to be everything to everyone... Packout is damn close. The moment they went on sale for 199.99, that became the perceived value. You can always lower a price, but just can not raise it, without dropping off a lot of sales.The a-la-carete ( pun ) pricing on Packout is still a bit stiff..... about 20% higher than what I value it at. But I did replace a few eggcrate type boxes with the Packout ones, despite their being a little pricey. The product is exceptionally well made. The homeowner definitely does not need one. So it does not need to compete with toolbags or other tool organization. It is for jobsite-shop-van TRANSFER.

  • @Stoppocketwatchin
    @Stoppocketwatchin 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for being so real

  • @MaydaysCustomWoodworks
    @MaydaysCustomWoodworks 4 года назад +1

    I love my Packout stuff but idk if I would have the Packout if I didn't have a cargo trailer or a van with a ramp lol. I love their durability, waterproofing, and ability to lock them up and keep them exposed and safe in a truck bed.... But I bought the Packout before I had a cargo trailer. Now I don't really need that security, and waterproofing... I don't even need as much durability because I'm careful with my stuff.... Now I'm actually considering going with the Festool systainers that have drawers. And ya... I hate having to open the bottom containers for my caulking gun, circ saw, planer, etc lol. It sucks.

  • @metal4life1966
    @metal4life1966 4 года назад

    Vince, ive had the pro husky bag. i loved it for what i needed it for. But the milwaukee Packout system is awesome. im in and out of warehouses in NJ and PA. For the repair work i do the milwaukee is KING. I still use my husky from time to time still.

  • @benjamingarcia8324
    @benjamingarcia8324 4 года назад

    I am waiting on the Dewalt ToughSystem 2.0. You video on that sold me.

  • @totalglitch
    @totalglitch 2 года назад

    So being this video was 2 years ago and I just found out about this system. Is it worth buying 275 out the door?. Or go with the new Ryobi for 189 from home Depot? I love that packout has the 2 and 3 drawers. And I am using it for hand tools as well and like to stay organized. Any thoughts. Thanks again

  • @jeffparker360
    @jeffparker360 4 года назад +1

    I'm definitely picking up what you're putting down my brother. Looking forward to seeing the follow up videos on the alternative solutions. Kobalt needs to come out with a system also!

    • @bryanmcfarland967
      @bryanmcfarland967 4 года назад +1

      Maybe Harbor Freight will join the mix too with some stuff. They already have a plastic toolbox with a tool wall mounted underneath the lid, which is awesome. And, Craftsman has a storage box that has hand tool drawers, which would be awesome to have in Packout. Hey, that gives me an idea, if the front of a Packout box could open like a door for access, then that would be cool!

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  4 года назад +1

      Thank you Jeff!

    • @floppychinook4340
      @floppychinook4340 4 года назад +2

      Kobalt is coming with a module pack out system as well , check out tool boss channel he recently loaded a video w/ pics and also there coming out with new cordless line called kobalt xtr I believe!

    • @jeffparker360
      @jeffparker360 4 года назад

      @@floppychinook4340 right on! I will go look that up now, thanks!

  • @SANFLGPDX
    @SANFLGPDX 4 года назад +1

    Hi VCG!
    TIGARD, OREGON Home Depot has the 3 box packout system for $199. Just bought mine. I agree that there are a few things that need to be changed, but overall I LOVE IT! I also agreed that it's not worth almost $300. Buying it at $199 make a very Worth the price.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  4 года назад

      Thanks for the heads up, and glad you scored!

  • @JJnewaGe
    @JJnewaGe 4 года назад +1

    Help , does anybody know if my flexvolt tools ( sawzall , worm drive ... ) will fit in packout system laying down ?
    Thx

  • @kswis
    @kswis 2 года назад +1

    Just moved into the packout from the rigid. I loved those boxes and they're superior in some ways. The packout is way better built. I love that the lid came off of the base of the rigid. Rigid weak spot is the cheesy ass handle. The rest of the boxes are stout. Miluakee is just bigger and well built

  • @upchurch57
    @upchurch57 4 года назад +1

    I’m in the construction field but would only buy the packout system to organize my hunting or camping equipment

  • @deanl2427
    @deanl2427 4 года назад +42

    The whole beginning of your rant, about having to load/unload/bring into job/load/reload.........is pointless. You still have to do that with your Husky bag. I use the Packout, and yes it's not perfect, and I can't even begin to describe what would be perfect. But, it is the best solution for MY needs. I don't care if you criticize something, but don't do it if your solution has the same shortcomings.

    • @ricohomeservice4674
      @ricohomeservice4674 4 года назад +6

      Hahhaa for real man like "oh no it doesn't unload itself and unpack without human aid" 🤣😂🙂

    • @unSTEVOED
      @unSTEVOED 3 года назад +6

      So True, as soon as he started saying thing like - you have to unload it, then stack it. then un stack it and load it back in to the truck was like THATS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO WITH EVERYTHING WHEN ON THE WORKSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next he'll be complaining about having to open his front door every time he want to leave / enter his house

    • @jamesvandyke7318
      @jamesvandyke7318 3 года назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing... lol. You can see how cheaply made the husky bag is when he rests his arm on the handle and it bends sideways... lol.

    • @hexed2563
      @hexed2563 3 года назад +1

      Looks like a holiday bag lol

    • @BossLamps
      @BossLamps 3 года назад +2

      The husky bag is for hacks. ZERO organization. Just toss random shit in their. “I don’t have my backup pack of tie wraps”. Lmfao cry me a river.

  • @incubus1995
    @incubus1995 3 года назад

    So I’m a DIY guy and end up doing a lot of work on my house and family/friends. I was looking for a better way to store my tools in the garage and if I have to transport them. Packout is just too pricey in my opinion to move all my m18 and m12. So I was looking at the craftsman versastack or dewalt t stack as they are interchangeable. The dewalt tough system seems awesome and allows for good wall storage of the items. Have you ever used any of the tstack or craftsman stuff? To put drills with foam and other things it seems like a good alternative especially when looking at price? Prob not good for you Vince but for storage in the shop or for me might be worth it

  • @dethreveng
    @dethreveng 3 года назад

    I'm slowly converting to the packout, so far I've got the 2/3 drawer units and the bottom roller, my only problem so far is the boxes are simply too big. I've been using the Husky 22" rolling connect system and it is pretty much the perfect size for me and a lot of guys I work with, but they are not as durable as the Packout and it doesn't have as much options as Husky, especially for the Price (I had to blindly buy the packout to be honest, it is WAY too expensive). Hopefully they can work on the price and maybe roll out a thinner solution for guys like me but I doubt either of those will happen unfortunately.

  • @starsailor803
    @starsailor803 4 года назад +42

    An easy solution would be if Milwaukee came out with a Packout handtruck.

    • @AntonioClaudioMichael
      @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +2

      I agree similar to the dewalt rail system and trolley

    • @5ghostshadow
      @5ghostshadow 4 года назад +2

      @@AntonioClaudioMichael I think Dewalt did away with it due to price. If you can weld, you can use 1in or 1-1/4 punched square tube and make your own that will be more durable. I believe it's 1in can't remember off the top of my head.

    • @johnwallace7694
      @johnwallace7694 4 года назад +1

      I bought the heavy duty DeWalt tough system. And two of the lighter carts/ box systems , works out fine

    • @willreidsmith1
      @willreidsmith1 4 года назад +1

      Hilti just came out with one. A hand truck packout for like $300.

    • @AntonioClaudioMichael
      @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +1

      @@5ghostshadow you got a great point if you buy the steel you can make them carts cheaper then buying them

  • @dinner85
    @dinner85 2 года назад

    Vince that was a seriously awesome video. The honesty was like water in the desert. Respect. Keep it up.

  • @plitt23
    @plitt23 2 года назад

    As much as i love and want packout, i have no issue using my stanley 3 in 1 rolling tool box.. its small, portable, and fits exactly what i need. Anything extra that i need, goes into a hilti bag on top. The stanley box i got for free from another contractor and its been great so far.