Is The Milwaukee Packout Overpriced? Brutal Opinion!
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
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Could probably be an idea to hotglue that dividers instead of using superglue. That way if you want to change it later a simple heat gun will make the hotglue come of without a mark.
Or a bit of alcohol - releases the glue, no heat and no risk of melting anything else.
You keep getting me in trouble! Bought the Ansell glove (only got forgiven because I got the missus some too. Both love them). Just treated myself to a load from unilite as keep meaning too and keep putting it off. Decent saving by the way, so thank you. And now the missus has caught me eying up the pack out kits. If you don't hear from me within a few weeks send help, or search party.
The Ansell gloves are top 👌
I’m looking at getting a van for plumbing and unsure what van layout & shelving to get, this has given me some good ideas thanks, I like the raised floor. Looks like it’s definitely worth getting a van vault.
Nice conclusion mate, makes sense for someone looking to start a setup from scratch
I looked van storage about 18months ago and found Bott to be pretty good. The racking is well built and fixes to the van without modification and is crash tested. Although the Milwaukee kit looks well built it’s plastic! My whole van racked out (Transit custom) was under £2.5K. Worth looking at the alternatives before committing.
Excellent video, Nick. Very nice, honest review.
Good to know it’s not just me wanting more and more milwaukee kit, it’s definitely very addictive
Good stuff Nick. As far as pronunciation, I've always heard it as "mill-walk-ee" here in Aus. Cheers
I'm a commercial electrical improver atm, so I haven't had the need to fit out a van just yet. Definitely see myself going down this route when the time comes.
I have their latest packout bag and slim packout organiser that I attach to the underside to carry my bits and bobs. Perfect combo for moving around a site and multiple floors. Highly recommend.
EDIT: Fellow Brit, I say it as "Mill-War-Key".
I do like ur van setup and I do enjoy the Packouts 👌
Hi nick loved the chanel you do wish your kind of style was available in North Yorkshire you have a great honesty and present in your work .just I
An idea what if you could design a a compete slide in and out cage for all your equipment it might be a useful bit of kit to keep secure mite even get lower insurance to cover just a thought ?
Until the consumer (you) starts demanding value for money, Milwaukee and others will continue to take the piss out of you. £2500 for about £200 worth of materials. They saw you coming!!
Material costs don't pay for the teams of people who design products, nor the volume shipping storage or distribution associated with products, let alone the design patent costs around the planet where you want to sale too. It really adds up a lot, and you get a small window to get a realistic return on investment, and all the middlemen take their margins. End users never get a true value proposition in almost every market.
@@michaeljarcher I'm well aware of all that. That doesn't mean the price isn't still stupid for what it is! People these days like to buy the most expensive things though. It makes them feel good for some reason. "Look what I can afford". Unless consumers wake up and start demanding better value, the manufacturers and suppliers will continue to rip you off.
@@michaeljarcher aren't these European versions made in China too? 🤦♂️
All you do is advertise these days use to watch you but not as much anymore abit boring
@@stevengrant7061 I don't think you meant to reply to me? 😂
I’m a DIYer and I use Milwaukee tools and have a few Packout bits. There is a similar system you can buy called Qbrick.
I agree. I love the system it works.
I went over to to it last year.
But it is expensive.🤔🤔
Good honest review Nick! Currently as a commercial/industrial electrician i have wooden racking and a magnusson toolbox stack (which pound for pound is very very good). Possibly persuaded into investment in milwaukee in the future although if money is no object then sortimo all the way for me.
If you're talking about the old Magnusson stacks which is now being sold as erbauer then I would have to agree, they are absolutely brilliant. I used mine for about a year and they're really good boxes for the price. However I was getting to the point where I was spending a good 10 minutes looking through crates for a tool that I knew I had but couldn't find. That's when I bought the Milwaukee 3 drawer, a crate and a half worth of tools went into that semi organised and now I very rarely struggle to find a tool. I have since replaced my rolling stack with Milwaukee and the fast locking action is amazing
There are three ways to pronounce Milwaukee:- 1. They saw you coming. 2. You are a mug. 3. Jordan got his free. 😂
I think there good but i prefer bags, velocity bags for me were a game changer, so much more organized.
With regatds to racking id do it out of ply to suit me personally 👍
Really interesting this mate and appreciate you sharing the prices.
I reallyyyyyy want to go down the Packout route but just can’t justify the price atm. I’ve got all dewalt T-Stak stuff which does the job but this just looks so practical.
I think over time I’ll chip away at a few bits and eventually do something similar to my van like you have..and then when my power tools start failing I might even switch over to the Milwaukee gear
Use hot melt glue for drawer dividers, you can pick it off if want to change
Hi
What's the system like to drive with does it tip or fall over at all????
Great video very interesting
Malc
I think you will find that festool/makita were the first of the tool companies to make interlocking toolboxes before milwaukee almost 10 years late to the game
I always try and judge it in terms of returns when I buy tools, etc. Will it actually make me any money? I appreciate the convenience of getting to everything quickly and I've been guilty of my van being out of hand with mess. But as nice as it is will you earn from it? I use eurocrates (in stacks of 4 with the bottom one screwed to the van floor. My power tools are in macpack boxes as I got a load on special offer. The Lidl parkside organisers are brilliant and fit perfectly in crates as well. I've got a generic fold down sack truck. Finally I've got a Makita soft bag with wheels which I can chuck a load of stuff in if I've got a bit of a walk to site. I've probably spent about £300 max on storage and it works really well for me. I guess the inconvenience is if something is in the bottom crate that I want I have to lift the others off, but for the investment it works well. Also, I think the amount of space wasted in terms of the actual amount of items you can get into the space taken up by the packout system is not great. There's a lot of plastic taking up room in terms of the sides, the lids, the drawers etc which all takes up van space.
Stanley Pro-Stak here, purely because I don't have the funds or the inclination to spend too much on something that is a very small part of my business. If I were a spark, plumber then deffo go down that route, or if I did data/comms all day every day. That being said I do use Veto bags (and soon to be Velocity) - so my financial statement makes no bloody sense really!!!
I do get envious of their latching system though, plus seeing Adam kit out his Connect as it's the same as mine, although I do have an electronics repair bench in there too!
It is a lot of money, but then so is Sortimo, Bott etc - and the Packout is more purposeful imho. You do what makes you happy.... but I reckon it is definitely an addiction - as if tools weren't a bad enough addiction as it is!!
I’m 77 on 12/12/23 & I still have a tool addiction, I’m an electrician and I still love working but mostly part time, went down to the NEC with my electrical wholesalers CEF and looked at the Milwaukee tools 😢, I’ve got mostly Makita but if I have was just starting out again Milwaukee would be my tools of choice, Makita tools are ok but the boxes are absolutely rubbish, I have some Stanley FATMAX boxes which are 10 times better, love watching your videos 👍.
As someone who switched from Milwaukee to Makita I can attest that Makita beats Milwaukee mate, trust me👍🏻 however their boxes are absolute crap. Milwaukee storage system is great.
77 jeez Louise, when did you start in the trade,,?
@@lewis94uk Started off on gas.
No idea of the longevity of Milwaukee boxes but I’ve had festool systainer boxes in service for around 15 years. If you buy quality you often need to buy just once.
can you do a separate video of what in each fixing box
I'd love to show you a walkthrough of my van, it's the DeWalt version and a lot more woodwork but it cost me about 1500 total but that includes a 5ft drawer under the floor, a 2.5kw inverter. 12 task drawers etc.
Just want to say, Tradify has completely changed our scheduling and how efficient we work, any tradesmen starting out and starting to get busy defo give it a go
Have just bought new boxes from tough built from us don’t know when they will be available over here
You ever thought about having racking designed by sortimo? Or bott?
Wanted to ask a question not about the pack out gear but your lights in the rear of the van……. What are they and are they easy to install for a none electrician like my self ???
Thanks in advance and keep up the videos
There stuff is quality it is a lot of money but it all goes in one big pot for Milwaukee R&D manufacturing plus keeping there lights on.
Im a DeWalt fan boy and have the tstack stuff, they are a pain to unlock from inside the van.
Im gland ive not gone down the Milwaukee rout as i would spend a fortune!!
Drop the packout organiser and the Stanley from the loft see which holds up best 🤔
Ye it costs a lit but i suppose it saves you racking it put with ply wood etc
Have you found a good cable.storage idea for van yet. Sick of having drums on shelves at back so annoying and never get put back there
I looked at the pack out gear but chose the Dewalt 2.0 system they do a 2 and 3 draw system and open tote boxes, cheaper cost to
I use T-Stak
I'm OCD and autistic and I developed a fetish for Dewalt
Pros - Whole system looks awesome now.
Cons - Wife not happy !
😂
You never regret spending money on quality gear 🙂 I recently did a video on the tool wall, we love it. Though the price puts a lot of people off
I'd agree if this was quality gear but it's not. It's plastic boxes made in China.
The cost completely puts me off - when looking years back I ended up getting a good deal on the sortimo L-boxx system box’s they lock together and have van mounts ect - also draws ect.
What size screws do you use to not go too deep into floor
Love the packout gear, few lads I know have the dewault and it’s no where near the quality of the packout gear
im american and i say milwaukee the same way you do so i dont know how other people are saying it im also from new jersey so my accent may not be the best to go off of we say wooder instead of water lol
What happened to the pull out what you had your boxes on
As someone from Wisconsin I can tell you its pronounced Mil walk ee. I agree its expensive but its really well made and at least the American version is not made in China. There are several other brands out there that are nearly as expensive but made in China. That's the real ripoff. always enjoy the content thx
As long as it is well made and the price is fair, I don't care if it's made in China or the US
I think it's made in Israel
i own thousands worth of them and they all flew out of my truck bed in a collision, with little to no damage didnt think the plastic tubaware tool god would be holding up as well as it did at all but im happy to see they can take a bit of a beating but a toolbox also would’ve probably survived the toss
Been using the packout system for a month now and it's totally worth the money and the pending divorce 😂
Thanks Richard
Mill-wal-quay (key) but different if pronounced in native American ( you don't pronounce the l in mill) I believe. And the items are IP65 rated waterproof. Which is pretty good. I'm currently upgrading dewalt t-stack to either dewalt tough system, or the milwalkee pack out. New to dewalt is the option to clip smaller units together and crates, but like the pack out wall and floor mounts that I'm not sure the others do yet.
Mill walk e ( The E is like the alphabet E)
Looking at the storage for the switches and outlets for £140 each, how many scratched ones that has to be tossed out will pay for the storage?
Also, £2500 must be cheaper than a Sortimo racking?
2.5k is definitely cheaper than sortimo, I had my van done out with sortimo and got way less stuff for a lot more money, and also nothing similar like the packout trolley chest to take it all on site.
Milwaukee is pronounced Owv-err Pry-ced 😁
I am looking for storage for my handtools, what is better a 40cm toolbag or the new 4 drawer packout?
Get the draws then shadow foam the inside.
It will cost a few quid but your tools will look smart and not break as your racing home on a Friday afternoon 😂
Negative:- I’m over £7k in & picked most of it up at a bargain.
Positives:- It saves time, saves my back, saves my tools & with a bit of modification, it’s much more secure
it looks insanely cold in your unit
The addiction is real! Must be something they put in the plastic! I think I saw tough built have something out as well now. Not looking as I will just want to but it!
Those metal plates look the business. Thanks for sharing
The pack out is over priced but the one thing I do like by them is there m12 drill and driver I’ve had the set for 3 months and not touched my 18v drill or driver well worth the money but to be honest you could get away with stably tool bags
Mill war key is how I say it although I only own 1 of there products so not something I say often.
Keter makes most of these and other plastic containers, go for what works for you.
It’s by far the best system out there by way of, strength, weather proof, stability, looks, sizes, and for me cost is out the window as it’s all written off at the end of the day so what does it matter? Yeah you could by cheap shit and it might do the same job initially but it won’t last and you’ll have to replace it. I bought into it as soon as PO was released and I’ve still got my OG 3 piece set going strong! Obviously it is addictive and you can’t help but buy the new releases when they drop but that’s on the customer not Mil-walk-eee 😊
Mill walk eee, but I am from southern England 😂
Not a bad thing you have never opened the first aid kit 👍🏻
Milwaukee Milwaukeeee it looks awesome in van and cleaner and easy access
Your Mum loves a wall mount ......... 😵💫
How much would you have spent on a van-racking system instead? With the Stanley fat max trays, there are two types each a different type of plastic one is more robust than the other.With these thing it's like light fitting some major brands specd are over a hundred pounds each and you look at it and think how can that cost that much. Its all the R & D that go into it.
Keep believing that if it makes you feel better about being ripped off 🤦♂️
Mill - war - key. And they used to give these organisers away with product. Some screw makers still do. Some clever, clever marketeer must have said, "Why are we giving these away? We can charge for them". And the rest is history.
But, is it crash tested ? in 2005 it cost me over 3K to get my Transporter 4M kitted out with Sortimo kit, dread to think what it would cost me now for the same.
i pronounce it "Mill-War-Key" not sure if thats right tho :)
Food for thought.
Ask how valuable time is to an 80 yr old.
The most value is in off loading boxes and into your worksite.
Secondary your van breaks down and you need to moove your tools into another vehicle while you wait 4 months for repair parts to come in.
Lastly your van is totaled/traded.
Modular = movable into work sites,or new vehicles.
Now ask the 80yr old again.
Don't spend money you can't afford to.
Im walking here !!! Mwokee
Deffo overpriced that’s why I stuck with euro boxes for kit and dewalt toughsystem for tools
I have some stuff from that rakout guy, he's a bit cheaper than the milwaukee ones and better quality
Surprised there is no Chinese knockoff equivalents
Mill - War - key
Mil-war-kee bud, for cable i have 3: 2 and a half ft galv steel handrails mounted vertically to the van floor to store the reels upright, mint for pulling off (pardon!!!!) a few meters whilst leaving in place. and the drums stay in good condition.
At least being self employed you can write a significant portion off against your taxes.
Over a year you will probably save the cost of the fit out in time you lose when loading and unloading.
Time is expensive these days.
My 1st set were heavy duty & made in Germany but once they got stolen i replaced them only to find they were far weedier & made in China.
'Kerfuffle' is not used enough these days
Mill - WALK- KEY
Mill- wall-key
Mill Walk Eee
Mil-wor-key is how I say it.
Mill-Walk-Key
Your buying at top rate they are much cheaper if you look around.
I say mill-walkie
You said you got the first aid kit from amazon, they're not an official seller of milwaukee so if you're buying the packout stuff from them milwaukee may not honour the warranty
It’s a dumb as thing to say they are expensive and simply say it’s just “plastic”. That’s like saying a electrician is overpaid. Your paying for development, tooling, R and D all sorts of other costs of production.
I think unfortunately tradesmen these days, rather concentrating more on the job and how good the work is They go for all these trends are very expensive bags compartment. When you really look at it, you won’t need all that stuff and how often do you use all the stuff you’ve got not that often
Defo biggest negative for me it’s so easy to steal.. took the trolly and stacked up and disappeared with all my stuff 😢 nice video good luck
Mill Waw Kee.. -_- / yes, the black kit is awesome over the red. Just call it M'Waukee 🤣 We know what you mean in the States - mother-tongue and all 🤣
MIL WALK E
Massively bulky and most of it is in the van.
Your not dragging it all over site.
Simplify you gear , you don’t need all of that.
Van kit out for. £2.5 k plus van vaults still cheaper than sortimo.
I don’t think it really matters how you say it, but it’s not the mil you’re getting wrong. I think it’s the wau bit, you say milwokkee but it’s milwarkee
Milwaukee is all overpriced. I work with other engineers who are mat-scientists, steel or PA6 (30 or above) whole van in around £650. I admire the Milwaukee reps and branding, they’re proper predators. Nasty spiteful, gimlet-eyed PR. Fair play to them. That said, I really like your vids and I really hope you’re doing better now. You are a great guy and talented. Caring too much can be a curse too!
Stanley fat max trays are also well sealed.
I am glad you’re happy with tradify. Loads of free or cheap CMO apps, I wouldn’t use a boxed system. They look like those useless goals at apadmi coded their facile system. Wix/Squarespace give you all the merchant services you need without being rinsed.
Perceived negativity notwithstanding your channel is great, recently re-subbed (YT break, not you)
Mil, War, Key
The price of the mounting plates is a joke
Mill Walk ee
Could get another van for £2500
mill-war-key
"Milwarkey" is how i say it as a brummy
I pronounce it mil-woh-kee
Mill war key … easy
Phonetically I say mill walk e
Mill-war-ki