Would love a update and how to. I attempted something similar on a Ponsness Warren 800 and no matter what I tried the initial resistance built up pressure and once it was overcome the press cycled way to quickly. I tried flow restriction on the exit, multiple ram sizes and psi etc.
I probably should take this video down as it is misleading. This is as far as I got and had the exact same issues you mention. Air is too compressible and springy, so you got a bind up and violent release. I tried all those things you mention including a big rotary actuator with no success.
@@franciscocruz9552 It's barely able to size the 9mm brass and when you add priming, bullet seating and crimping, it fails. The main problem is the innate nature of pneumatic devices. It's almost impossible to have a smooth, linear motion with any pneumatic device. When a load builds up, the device slows down until the pressure builds up in the circuit to overcome the load. When it does catch up, the energy is released suddenly, with a jerk. You'll notice a hard "thump" at the end of the stroke. You'll also notice a twisting of the press during the forward cycle. Obviously you can go to larger bore cylinders and/or longer strokes and probably get a working system, but I think there is a good bit of inherent danger in a pneumatic application such as this where hundreds of pounds of force are involved. Pneumatic systems shine in many automatic applications, but usually involving quick movements and small loads. You could probably do this smoothly with a hydraulic cylinder and circuit, but then you'll be getting into methods of powering it, and even air-over-oil is expensive. No, the best way to power a small press is with an electric motor of some sort. In addition, advanced controls can be added for moderate cost.
Rex Roach Thank you for your knowledge and replying back so quickly. I’m trying to figure a way to automate my cp2000 machine. I prefer not having to buy a $2,000 system for it.
At this point, nothing. Those are 9mm once-fired cases going through. There are no primers, powder or bullets being added in the video. It's early days and I'm still very much de-bugging the system. The sizing die, primer pocket swage and powder measure expander put probably 95% of the load on the system. Seating the primer and bullet takes almost no effort, so I'm testing without worrying about making bad ammo.
Now that's a 1050 with ATTITUDE !!!
Fantastic work!
Very impressive. It even sounds soothing to listen to! I look forward to a video describing its creation. Regards Russell
Nice setup mate. Just keep feeding her 👍🏻
REX’S YOU THE MAN 🍺🥃🤟🇺🇸❤️✝️✝️✝️
It s an amazing device!!!
Congratulations!!
It s the first time i see a pneumatic system for this machines!!!
Regards from Argentina!!!
Very cool 1050!
Good job, really!
That is awesome. I want one
This is sweet!!!
Taking that step from reloading to production, very interesting.
Very Cool.
Want one for my bedroom. Nice white noise...
Just watched the initial demonstration video. I was wondering if you could set it up for an automation and sure enough.....very nice.
Wow!
This is crazy
Would love a update and how to. I attempted something similar on a Ponsness Warren 800 and no matter what I tried the initial resistance built up pressure and once it was overcome the press cycled way to quickly. I tried flow restriction on the exit, multiple ram sizes and psi etc.
I probably should take this video down as it is misleading. This is as far as I got and had the exact same issues you mention. Air is too compressible and springy, so you got a bind up and violent release. I tried all those things you mention including a big rotary actuator with no success.
@@RexRoach Thanks for the reply. Did you try other avenues of automation? Hydraulic? Electric motor?
@@wm12ga no. I think one is better off "biting the bullet" and buying a good commercially made system.
I don't get it...is this better, cheaper or more reliable than an Autodrive?
What size cylinder did you use for your setup?
I tried sizes up to 100mm diameter and never got it to run smoothly and reliably. I guess I should take this video down.
Rex Roach I think it’s amazing! What made it not reliable? It looks good on video
@@franciscocruz9552 It's barely able to size the 9mm brass and when you add priming, bullet seating and crimping, it fails. The main problem is the innate nature of pneumatic devices. It's almost impossible to have a smooth, linear motion with any pneumatic device. When a load builds up, the device slows down until the pressure builds up in the circuit to overcome the load. When it does catch up, the energy is released suddenly, with a jerk. You'll notice a hard "thump" at the end of the stroke. You'll also notice a twisting of the press during the forward cycle.
Obviously you can go to larger bore cylinders and/or longer strokes and probably get a working system, but I think there is a good bit of inherent danger in a pneumatic application such as this where hundreds of pounds of force are involved. Pneumatic systems shine in many automatic applications, but usually involving quick movements and small loads.
You could probably do this smoothly with a hydraulic cylinder and circuit, but then you'll be getting into methods of powering it, and even air-over-oil is expensive.
No, the best way to power a small press is with an electric motor of some sort. In addition, advanced controls can be added for moderate cost.
Rex Roach Thank you for your knowledge and replying back so quickly. I’m trying to figure a way to automate my cp2000 machine. I prefer not having to buy a $2,000 system for it.
What’s the machine making?
At this point, nothing. Those are 9mm once-fired cases going through. There are no primers, powder or bullets being added in the video. It's early days and I'm still very much de-bugging the system. The sizing die, primer pocket swage and powder measure expander put probably 95% of the load on the system. Seating the primer and bullet takes almost no effort, so I'm testing without worrying about making bad ammo.
Air not good idea