Paper Mario The Origami King - A Completionist's Unexpected Nightmare

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @DaNintendude
    @DaNintendude 4 года назад +694

    The "No-accessories" and "No-game-overs" are less of a completion thing, and more of a challenge thing.
    I saw it as a "Hey, you liked the game? Why not try again, but this time challenge yourself!"
    Once I got the 100% ending, I was content, and I don't plan on doing the other 2 challenges until I get the hankering to play the game again.

    • @JhettJones
      @JhettJones 4 года назад +37

      I literally can not believe that anyone enjoyed this game enough that they decided to play it again. :(
      Being built primarily around the discovery of finding things, shock reveals, and joke dialogue, it doesn't even lend itself well to replay even for people that do like it.

    • @paperluigidrivinthecar5070
      @paperluigidrivinthecar5070 4 года назад +76

      @@JhettJones While yes it for sure is a lot less re-playable than the older games that doesn't mean it isn't at all. I've seen lots of people call this in their top 3 Paper Mario games.

    • @grimsonforce7504
      @grimsonforce7504 4 года назад +28

      @@paperluigidrivinthecar5070 yeah I'm one of those TTYD>PM64>TOK. The game has potential and it's frustrating how the game is strong in certain areas while completely missing the mark on others.

    • @SpaceFrog999
      @SpaceFrog999 4 года назад +10

      Nicholas Horan their top 3????? Bro there are 6 games and 3 of them suck ass, of course its in the top 3 wtf

    • @paperluigidrivinthecar5070
      @paperluigidrivinthecar5070 4 года назад +55

      @@SpaceFrog999 I don't think you get how many people love Super...

  • @mewmasterjash
    @mewmasterjash 4 года назад +969

    I loved the coffee shops, it shows that the minions aren't just robots waddling back and fourth, they are people

  • @amythistfire7
    @amythistfire7 4 года назад +879

    I feel like we need something between “Finish it” and “Complete it” because BotW was the same way. Maybe “Complete it*” with an asterisk?

    • @otakugamer108
      @otakugamer108 4 года назад +152

      This one should have been a "Finipete It!" Too bad that was retired.

    • @OctoNico
      @OctoNico 4 года назад +17

      "Dig your claws in it"

    • @willywitchdoctor
      @willywitchdoctor 4 года назад +48

      @@otakugamer108 I still say finipete it in normal conversations...its stupid but it really rolls of the tongue

    • @robbybevard8034
      @robbybevard8034 4 года назад +63

      Also games like Persona 5 where its two playthroughs of a 100 hours game to get all the trophies, but like 10 playthroughs to get every single cutscene. Or the Link's Awakening chicken challenge, where the entire game takes about 15 hours, but doing the chicken minigame where you dodge chickens for 10 minutes straight takes 20 hours of attempts on its own and results in pausing every second. Or Horizon Zero Dawn which is great at all the difficulty levels the game came with, but is an absurd nightmare at its hardest DLC difficulty.
      Jirard really needs some kind of cutoff criteria where if getting a single reward takes longer than the rest of the game combined, it can get an asterisk.

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi 4 года назад +6

      Compete it but through the years of playing and not in one sitting

  • @danielwu6891
    @danielwu6891 4 года назад +363

    I never thought I would get so emotional over a fictional bomb
    *_cri_* We'll miss you bobbi

    • @KittyKatty999
      @KittyKatty999 4 года назад +10

      He's a ghost though, so he isn't gone forever.

    • @lucabellucci8082
      @lucabellucci8082 4 года назад +11

      Rest in peace bobunosuke domo

    • @borisborisvichborislav4225
      @borisborisvichborislav4225 3 года назад +2

      He has thinky thinky panic

    • @acedianihil8208
      @acedianihil8208 3 года назад +7

      eh, the whole arc was stupid, bombette and Bobbery showed bombbombs could do their signature thing without killing themselves, but its retconed for another "innovative" paper mario

    • @owenmenning3878
      @owenmenning3878 3 года назад +3

      @@acedianihil8208 different rules dude. They even use bombs at the end of the game to progress

  • @luigimario6354
    @luigimario6354 4 года назад +1043

    Ok listen I'm sorry I've never seen the actual key to peaches castle stop telling me I'm wrong all the time

    • @luigimario6354
      @luigimario6354 4 года назад +62

      :,( I just wana be helpful...

    • @dantesdiscoinfernolol
      @dantesdiscoinfernolol 4 года назад +32

      You were still very helpful Luigi!
      Mario and Olivia couldn't have done it without you!

    • @dr.loboto1171
      @dr.loboto1171 4 года назад +22

      Don't worry! All those other keys you found turned out to be pretty useful in their own right!

    • @Goos64
      @Goos64 4 года назад +8

      You did your best Luigi

    • @oimenamesrick
      @oimenamesrick 4 года назад +4

      ... Good luck out there.

  • @justinbuddy56
    @justinbuddy56 3 года назад +93

    “Luigi - even when he’s right, he’s wrong” will be one of my most favorite quotes to come out of this channel

  • @memeboyobitesthedust6593
    @memeboyobitesthedust6593 4 года назад +1820

    What did I say to get this a heart? We’ll never know...
    Oh crap the heart got erased

  • @TheLonelyGoomba
    @TheLonelyGoomba 4 года назад +492

    Was that deleted tweet about the secret medals mine? >.> I deleted it cos I didn’t want to stress people out about it before it was common knowledge

  • @jblen
    @jblen 4 года назад +319

    I'm just thinking how BotW would be greatly improved by having a similar checklist kind of thing. Like it won't tell you exactly where every korok seed is, but it says there are X left in this one area or whatever. More korok seeds means more inventory, and more inventory means a better experience.

    • @Zitsanrael1117
      @Zitsanrael1117 4 года назад +21

      Like they did with the Maiamais in Link Between Worlds...that came out in 2014. Seriously, how the hell did they screw that up?

    • @leolhez
      @leolhez 4 года назад +24

      With the koroks seeds specificaly, I don't think it would be too helpful.
      If they did that with the towers it would basically say "You have 100 left in this big area. Good luck finding them!". The areas are just too big and there are too many koroks for it to be too useful.
      But for other thing, like shrines, bosses or locations that would have been soooooooo useful.

    • @johnjekyllson28
      @johnjekyllson28 4 года назад +6

      You’re not supposed to find them all, and you don’t need that feature in order to max out inventory spaces.

    • @commonviewer2488
      @commonviewer2488 4 года назад +16

      With there being 900 of the little guys, it's clear that Nintendo intended Koroks to be small rewards for exploring, and not something intended to be 100% collected.

    • @leolhez
      @leolhez 4 года назад +9

      @@commonviewer2488
      Yeah, the game literaly gives a crap about you completing it.
      It's more about the journey than the destination.

  • @SomeGuyXG3
    @SomeGuyXG3 4 года назад +85

    Also, rant aside, protip for all the coins in Eddy River: you can use your hammer on the boat. This will do 1 HP of damage, but it also recenters your boat anywhere, very useful if you barely miss a coin.

    • @locomokuu2471
      @locomokuu2471 4 года назад +2

      I went the whole game without knowing this

    • @SomeGuyXG3
      @SomeGuyXG3 4 года назад +7

      @@locomokuu2471 Yeah, I found out by accident, then immediately used it that next run to get all the coins (that giant whirlpool at the end was a particular sticking point before).

    • @GamingEelektross
      @GamingEelektross 4 года назад +3

      Also helps to just suicide and start from the very beginning of the section to try again if you miss a coin and don’t care for the game over challenge.

    • @-metroro-
      @-metroro- 4 года назад

      You can *_what_*

  • @tristenj1992
    @tristenj1992 4 года назад +404

    Once again with each and every video the Completionist makes, he reconfirms over and over that being a completionist just simply is not worth it.

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 4 года назад +58

      TeeJay yea it really isn’t. Some games aren’t too bad to complete but for the most part it’s ridiculously repetitive and stressful. Especially in games where you have to beat it over and over and over to get everything you need

    • @azurrayne4140
      @azurrayne4140 4 года назад +14

      The Dark Souls series should be a testament to that; no bonfires, no deaths? 2 rings to make your weapons invisible.

    • @gamingawesomeness222
      @gamingawesomeness222 4 года назад +32

      This is why I'm a finipletionist

    • @Lucarioguild7
      @Lucarioguild7 4 года назад +17

      Its kinda funny the more collect-a-thon games become the less they reward people for ya know actually completing them

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 4 года назад +21

      @@Lucarioguild7 Though to be fair, the issue with completing Origami king is not the collect-a-thon (which is in fact the BEST part about the game) but the no-gameover-gearless-run requirement. Gearless and no-gameover should never be a completion requirement, unless it's specifically baked into the difficulty setting right at the start. Especially since unless you bake it into the difficulty setting, no-gameover can easily be subverted by resetting the game, defeating the point.

  • @MrRotceh64
    @MrRotceh64 4 года назад +100

    I feel like you should just say “ Go for it” when comes to games like this. To Recommend bit beyond completing it. This would help with games that tend to have a new game plus mode with changes, or dlc. And I also know few Games that are a chore to actually complete to 100% but there additional content I always would recommend that is further beyond scope of finishing it.

    • @lrc4263
      @lrc4263 4 года назад +1

      Hyrule Warriors was so tedious to 100% I eventually just gave up.

  • @KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69
    @KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69 4 года назад +742

    This game gave me PTSD from office supplies.
    I will never look at crayons the same way again.

    • @dr.doofenward1192
      @dr.doofenward1192 4 года назад +34

      _Tape will haunt my dreams forever_

    • @5thkiechannel
      @5thkiechannel 4 года назад +1

      Marine corps?

    • @yeetdoggo07
      @yeetdoggo07 4 года назад +18

      I was getting supplies for school and saw scissors i have ptsd because of final cut i t was just so stressful

    • @ArceusBowser212
      @ArceusBowser212 4 года назад +9

      @@dr.doofenward1192 OH GOD NOT THE TAPE

    • @matthewberry2144
      @matthewberry2144 4 года назад +3

      Crayons weren't even in this game tho

  • @gideongrace1977
    @gideongrace1977 4 года назад +9

    You know, I really love the completionist videos. Every other review I saw of Yoshi's Crafted World said it was terrible and too easy but then Jirard said it was just fun and simple, so I tried it and it turned out to be one of my favorite games of all time. I thought this game looked bad too based on what else I'd heard, but then this video is making me want to try it. Thanks for making these videos, Jirard.

  • @MystLunarabne
    @MystLunarabne 4 года назад +243

    Honestly, they really did an amazing job with the characters considering the limitations they had.
    Hopefull Nintendo can be convinced to let the series truly go back to its core though.

    • @skydiamsteam6005
      @skydiamsteam6005 4 года назад +25

      I mean Intelligent Systems always has pretty clever writing

    • @wooldystarman7401
      @wooldystarman7401 4 года назад +3

      I'am a classic, and i reconize they did a wonderful job.

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 4 года назад +8

      I still think it's Tanabe whose doing this, seeing other Mario games lately try to shake it up more -- IMO just said it in a way that doesn't point it to him.

    • @SakuraAvalon
      @SakuraAvalon 4 года назад +5

      Doubtful. This game sold really well. So, I'm pretty sure Nintendo feels reaffirmed in their stance on forcing these limitations.

    • @thrallfan1056
      @thrallfan1056 4 года назад +20

      @@SakuraAvalon Well on the other hand had this game done poorly Nintendo would just stop making paper Mario games altogether

  • @HollywoodHomieGaming
    @HollywoodHomieGaming 4 года назад +81

    I really enjoyed this game, played with my 4 year old daughter. She loved ever min. When Bobby died we were both sad, but we had to keep going to keep his memories alive. It was a really fun teaching moment showing how games can tell beatiful storys that impact our lives. Great stuff Nintendo, Thanks Jiard!

    • @friskydingooo7992
      @friskydingooo7992 4 года назад

      The Wolf King yes dark indeed

    • @timeland8343
      @timeland8343 4 года назад +2

      @The Wolf King gotta love major spoilers in the comments

    • @ARCHIVED9610
      @ARCHIVED9610 Год назад

      oh thats adorable 😭

  • @hannahbrennan2131
    @hannahbrennan2131 4 года назад +124

    I actually really like this game. The battle system is a bit of a pain since I'm really bad at big-picture type puzzles, but that doesn't ruin the overall experience for me.

    • @Junotrigger
      @Junotrigger 2 года назад +3

      I had to look up how to beat almost every boss💀

    • @Junotrigger
      @Junotrigger Год назад +1

      @@moonsoon1038 Well, that’s what I tried to do. I’m not the type of guy who wants to wants too play the game while having to look up guides every 20 minutes, but this game had me doing that a lot. Still loved it though

  • @joeykeilholz925
    @joeykeilholz925 4 года назад +294

    Fighting a stapler: because unique characters aren't allowed.

    • @megaman161
      @megaman161 4 года назад +58

      It did have a banging battle song though...

    • @gittonsxv126
      @gittonsxv126 4 года назад +73

      The disco dancing hole punch was hilarious and I damn anyone who thinks otherwise.

    • @jakesteel4916
      @jakesteel4916 4 года назад +57

      It gave us Mario snapping the jaw of the stapler dog which is raw as hell.

    • @Iron8127
      @Iron8127 4 года назад +20

      Still kinda annoyed as to why they can't.
      With the new rule you can't modify or add new characters.
      It's no excuse to not bring back the partner system as it was before nor to not bring back characters like Goombella,Bombette or even Koops.
      Heck, it would be awesome to see one of the Koopa Bros. to return as a party member.
      Mainly because they were already introduced, therefore it wouldn't be modifying nor creating a completely new character.

    • @SaraNightfire1
      @SaraNightfire1 4 года назад +20

      It's complicated. It was mentioned in the comments section of Zero Punctuation where the critic (Yahtzee, who I'm a huge fan of) that the rule states that ANY characters of the Mario genre are now not allowed to be changed. Meaning you can't add a hat to an established character, or a beard.
      I agree: It's a stupid rule and REALLY limits creativity. Especially when you see what they've done to Pokemon (Pikachu alone) with adding silly things.
      Miyamoto, who is a genius, trust me, I compare him to a God of video gaming in the same breath. Made this decision, others will take the blame, but he has the final say on what happens with the characters of Mario. I wonder if he's just too behind the times to realize how much damage this is causing for him to change.
      And yes, I know he had a hand in BoTW, but he loves innovation, and BoTW was practically innovated from the first step out of the cave. He would go with it just because it had some much innovation and "uniquenesss" to the series.

  • @johndelkab2111
    @johndelkab2111 4 года назад +21

    I love the battle system because coins actually matter as a completion it’s given how expensive everything is.
    The ring system is fun, it can use some more variety but it’s not terrible or broken either. The game encourages you to solve the puzzle and beat the enemies in 1 turn and it’s satisfying.
    Boss fights are even better.

  • @RPGtourguide
    @RPGtourguide 4 года назад +193

    Wow, I hadn’t looked into it before and this is the first I heard of those “ultra completionist” tasks for no game over’s and no battle accessories. That sucks. The fact that the game doesn’t tell you about these is frustrating too. I think I would have been fine on the game over’s if it weren’t for the coin-collecting on the rapids section. :/ I’ll be fine with my “almost” completionist rank, thanks.

    • @MagnusvonYoshi
      @MagnusvonYoshi 4 года назад +16

      Someone did bring up the two Illusory rings from Dark Souls 2. One of them was for beating the game with no deaths, the other for beating the game with no save points.

    • @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034
      @notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 4 года назад +4

      @@MagnusvonYoshi oh...oh no

    • @MagnusvonYoshi
      @MagnusvonYoshi 4 года назад +1

      @Ray Brudbary They make your right hand and left hand weapons invisible. I forget which ring is which hand.

    • @propheticrain-maker1486
      @propheticrain-maker1486 3 года назад +1

      @@MagnusvonYoshi no bonfires = right hand and no deaths = left hand.

    • @steam-powereddolphin5449
      @steam-powereddolphin5449 2 года назад +1

      Is it a viable strategy to quit and reload the game if you think you're about to lose?

  • @coreymyers5321
    @coreymyers5321 4 года назад +440

    If the Completionist keeps his beard growing, he is going to give James Harden a run for his money.

    • @zeone3000
      @zeone3000 4 года назад +5

      @Jack Black This man grows a full beard in weeks and I can't grow five o'clock shadow in five years! Genetics man...

    • @RolandMIA71
      @RolandMIA71 4 года назад +2

      @@zeone3000 as a guy whos beard grows really fast...some times i envy ppl like you lol

    • @TheSonicFan4
      @TheSonicFan4 4 года назад

      Hardon is a hilarious last name

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 4 года назад +1

      TheSonicFan4 its Harden he edited the OG and fixed it lol

    • @jeffrospyro4654
      @jeffrospyro4654 4 года назад

      Facts 😂😂😂😂💯
      ruclips.net/video/HIFN5_CsU4c/видео.html

  • @WhiteHeroAlex
    @WhiteHeroAlex 4 года назад +7

    The secret challenges frustrated me, too. I somehow went through my entire first playthrough without a single game over, and got the gold heart for it, which I smiled at. Then I learned about the no battle accessories challenge and about threw my Switch out the window.

  • @Shaprite
    @Shaprite 4 года назад +68

    I didn't know about that "true" secret ending.

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea 4 года назад +3

    Wow that second section of the video discussing how the game was focused on people rather than individual persons was pure genius. Great work, even though I'm many months late after having just finished the game.

  • @nnnneeeeuuuu
    @nnnneeeeuuuu 4 года назад +96

    Not one review mentioned the joke in a TURN based system where you actually turn things. It's so silly and I love it

    • @shinigamimiroku3723
      @shinigamimiroku3723 4 года назад +26

      It's silly from one perspective, and a giant middle finger to RPG fans from another perspective.

    • @groudongamer3178
      @groudongamer3178 4 года назад +23

      @@shinigamimiroku3723 it's deliciously hilarious and I love it.

    • @TheMetalOverlord
      @TheMetalOverlord 4 года назад +7

      But what about the joke of having useless battles that just make you lose resources and gain nothing in a battle based game?

    • @stardust1271
      @stardust1271 4 года назад +5

      TheMetalOverlord that ones especially funny

    • @paperluigidrivinthecar5070
      @paperluigidrivinthecar5070 4 года назад +4

      @@TheMetalOverlord Technically you'll ways make a net gain when battling in Origami King unless you screw up horrible in battle. Plus depending on someones play style it can change how rewarding battles are. I've seen people end the game with 100k coins or 10k coins. I'm also pretty dang sure since I played the game that I can say that battling isn't the core of the game. Sure it's part of the game but you will be in battles 40% of the game and that's coming from someone who enjoyed and played most battles.

  • @noxprobxrob3877
    @noxprobxrob3877 4 года назад +4

    I'm sorry you had to deal with that surprise, man. I am genuinely glad to hear that you enjoyed the game. I get tired of hearing people throw nothing but complaints at games that are really quite good. Thank you.

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 4 года назад +277

    Completing Origami King is all fun and games...
    Until you find out that you have to beat the game with No Game-Overs or Accessories... conditions that the game NEVER tells you about
    at least it's an excuse to replay this game again because it's really good

    • @persiancat8468
      @persiancat8468 4 года назад +11

      Especially since there are allot of hazards that instakill you

    • @persiancat8468
      @persiancat8468 4 года назад +2

      @@agamer6904 yes

    • @randömfiish
      @randömfiish 4 года назад +1

      @@agamer6904 i gave up asking ages ago, just stop questioning it

    • @dogestep64
      @dogestep64 4 года назад +2

      @@agamer6904 I've never seen this dude once

    • @Octosona
      @Octosona 4 года назад +11

      I accidentally beat it without accessories because I didn't know what they were.

  • @L337M4573RK
    @L337M4573RK 4 года назад +64

    Aside from the 2 "secret" completion achievements, this game was visually stunning, musically entertaining, and absolutely charming (though sometimes challenging) to play! Some of the best parts of the game include Autumn Mountain/Shogun Studios, Bob-bomb's Sacrifice, and the groovy Disco Dance cut-scene. (Note: if you have not updated to the latest version, there's at least one extremely game-busting glitch that can completely stop your current progress, and force you to completely erase your save file and completely start the whole game over due to how severe it is! What's worse is that this glitch can occur roughly 70-75% into your overall play-through, which means that the potential amount of progress you could end up losing is absolutely soul-crushing!)

    • @luiginumbers6268
      @luiginumbers6268 3 года назад +1

      o7
      For Bobby

    • @stripedrajang3571
      @stripedrajang3571 2 года назад

      Nintendo made the patch for it not too long after launch. Like a week or two after launch.

    • @L337M4573RK
      @L337M4573RK 2 года назад

      @@stripedrajang3571 Hence why I mentioned that "if you have not updated to the latest version...".

    • @stripedrajang3571
      @stripedrajang3571 2 года назад

      @@L337M4573RK, I see. My bad.

  • @petwisk2012
    @petwisk2012 4 года назад +24

    1:33 i got scared when Jirard screamed trully upset at the Guy Laughing in the background, It was the most genuine demostration of anger i ever seen in this Channel

  • @10thletter40
    @10thletter40 4 года назад +3

    16:55 Fudge you Eddy River minigame, difficult as fudge! I feel your pain

  • @w00tyd00d
    @w00tyd00d 4 года назад +251

    5:51 Silly Jirard, it's pronounced "Boh" like, you know...the bows she wears in her ears lol

    • @kaexewires7531
      @kaexewires7531 4 года назад +4

      ... I thought she had cat ears...
      god I'm so dumb

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 года назад +2

      @@kaexewires7531
      There's a Playboy style one wearing a cat ears hairband in the shop next to the casino in the second game...
      And she works for the mafia too...

    • @hurt4322
      @hurt4322 4 года назад

      @@kaexewires7531
      furry boo
      ...
      furry boo

    • @Pmf95k
      @Pmf95k 4 года назад +1

      VerdeMorte playboy bow. Damn that was the best part of ttyd

    • @VerdeMorte
      @VerdeMorte 4 года назад

      @Zachary Erickson
      There's more than one hostess Boo, one in the Casino and another in the shop, each have different ear hairbands.

  • @Lugmillord
    @Lugmillord 4 года назад +1

    Origami King is one of the completionist-friendliest games I have seen so far. It tells you exactly, what's required for 100% (including side stuff), it shows you per area, how much you are missing of each collectible (in percent) and gives you several helping items for finding said collectibles. It makes the majority of the completion process really enjoyable. That's a thing they did really well. Even if you hate the combat, the world exploration is fantastic. ...wait, there is a secret secret completion bonus? Huh. Well, since I didn't know and got the normal 100%, that's enough for me. I don't need those extra icons.

  • @hotcocoabomb_
    @hotcocoabomb_ 4 года назад +114

    Me just sitting here playing paper mario 64 for the 1st time

    • @heathbrook6065
      @heathbrook6065 4 года назад +8

      I just started paper Mario 64 myself. I’ve got every paper Mario and I haven’t started one haha.

    • @giygas_9577
      @giygas_9577 4 года назад +1

      I actually played through that one twice in the past few weeks. One was before I decided to do a Mario 35th anniversary marathon, and the other was after I had decided to do that.

    • @thewonderblunder3421
      @thewonderblunder3421 4 года назад +3

      In my opinion the best one (to replay).

    • @LauraLowe
      @LauraLowe 4 года назад +4

      Ok Henry Stickmin from Breaking the Bank, Escaping the Prison, Stealing the Diamond, Infiltrating the Airship, Fleeing the Complex, and The Henry Stickmin Collection

    • @thecommenter578
      @thecommenter578 4 года назад +1

      The best in the series

  • @Drewsefer89
    @Drewsefer89 4 года назад +56

    What I love about the Paper Mario series are the fun stories, witty characters & lush worlds. And I personally feel Paper Mario the Origami King nailed all 3 of these aspects. I had a blast playing through the game. I absolutely loved collecting all the Toads. So much fun! And I thought the combat system was very unique & quite challenging at times. For me Origami King is amongst the best in the series.

    • @rem5779
      @rem5779 4 года назад +5

      I had a blast playing through the game. It's one of my favorite Paper Mario games. I'm okay with the game changing & evolving throughout the series.

    • @ducla3945
      @ducla3945 4 года назад +3

      @@rem5779 don't jinx it man, last thing we want is the series going backwards again, but don't be surprise is some of these features in that game will return paper Mario returns for The Nintendo Switch sequel.

  • @BeatleJWOL
    @BeatleJWOL 4 года назад +82

    Missed opportunity: Paper Ted

    • @Koroguru
      @Koroguru 4 года назад +1

      Paper Ted Talk

  • @tomo8940
    @tomo8940 4 года назад +18

    Something is up with Nintendo with giving the game that many restrictions.

    • @channelremoved32
      @channelremoved32 4 года назад +14

      it's probably just some shady committee somewhere in nintendo whose job is to keep mario's brand consistent. in practice though this kinda just means preventing developers from doing whatever they like

    • @tomo8940
      @tomo8940 4 года назад +1

      @@channelremoved32 It kinda feels like Nintendo is trying to make their own version of the Minions from Despicable Me with the Toads being everywhere. Would make sense since they're moving on to movies and theme parks...

  • @Hercules_Flexing
    @Hercules_Flexing 4 года назад +17

    Also I low-key was hoping that Jirard’s beard would be origami in the thumbnaill haha

  • @Cheeto-sf4xy
    @Cheeto-sf4xy 4 года назад +48

    This game was surprisingly good, and actually quite heart warming

  • @GeorgeMarionerd
    @GeorgeMarionerd 4 года назад +130

    Remember guys, it's ok to like whichever games you like, just don't belittle people who like the ones you don't.

    • @jakk9560
      @jakk9560 4 года назад +6

      Yes thank you

    • @jakk9560
      @jakk9560 4 года назад +5

      @The Wolf King yes of cores my good fellow

    • @Seth_Hezekiah
      @Seth_Hezekiah 4 года назад +1

      Except twilight fans. U can hate them. Lol

    • @GeorgeMarionerd
      @GeorgeMarionerd 4 года назад +4

      @The Wolf King Indeed. I did mean that too.
      I actually like all the Paper Mario games, even Sticker star.

    • @Seth_Hezekiah
      @Seth_Hezekiah 4 года назад +1

      @The Wolf King uhhh, I don't know who that is and I don't watch batman stuff so?

  • @exeledusprince9165
    @exeledusprince9165 4 года назад +28

    I just 100% the game yesterday, and now I learn that I actually didnt?!?
    UGH.....

    • @chickennoodlegamer915
      @chickennoodlegamer915 4 года назад +3

      Good thing I learned about the secret achievements before I went for the 100%, I was able to delete my save and replay it without losing much progress

  • @w33aboojones
    @w33aboojones 4 года назад +8

    I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one that called Bow "Bow" as in bowing to someone and not the thing that is on her head that she's obviously named after when you think about it lol.

  • @pan2504
    @pan2504 4 года назад +8

    I didn’t know about those extra “no game over” “no accessories” stuff, now I feel bad, some day I will replay it and truly complete
    PD: nice draw jirad
    PPD: I hate shy guy finish last challenge

  • @rekc_bcq4816
    @rekc_bcq4816 4 года назад +151

    You know I feel that these changes aren’t bad in themselves, but they have moved so far from the original I feel like it makes more sense to have made it a new series entirely. There are some people who say this is their favorite Paper Mario game. I’m happy that they enjoy it. I think the problem is that comparing the old and new games are like comparing apples to oranges. The focuses are completely different. Your preference is more a matter of what type of game you prefer, not which game did it best. To be honest I could be speaking out of my butt here because I’ve never beat a Paper Mario game, but I have enough of an understanding to be able to analyze why everything has played out the way it has. I think it would have been great if they established a new series with a focus on innovation and kept this series focused on the formula that people loved so much.

    • @gavenmiller
      @gavenmiller 4 года назад +9

      I hope that they can at least make a new series so we can have both styles. I mean Sticker Star and Color Splash had flaws in general game design regardless of what the previous games did. But they've been removed for the most part. But having a series alongside the new style isnt a bad idea in my opinion

    • @ArceusBowser212
      @ArceusBowser212 4 года назад +3

      Origami King is my favorite Paper Mario game, as I couldn't play TTYD or 64 because of not having those consoles. I also never bought Super Paper Mario.

    • @gavenmiller
      @gavenmiller 4 года назад +1

      @@ArceusBowser212 Same

    • @wiiuandmii7619
      @wiiuandmii7619 4 года назад +5

      It's like comparing apples and oranges: Both are goddamn delicious.

    • @johndelkab2111
      @johndelkab2111 4 года назад +4

      The only real thing the original games have over how well done of a game Origami King is, is just Original Characters and an exp system.
      Both of which can be improved into a Origami King sequel.
      There doesn’t need to be a split.

  • @mugfan9779
    @mugfan9779 4 года назад +33

    I am so glad that this game is getting the positive feedback it is. I loved this game, but I was afraid that like the last 2 games before it, the fans would totally overshadow anybody who thought they were good.

  • @an3582
    @an3582 4 года назад +203

    Nintendo: We hear the fans, we just assume theyre absolutely wrong about what they want.

    • @CimyrRazely
      @CimyrRazely 4 года назад +44

      More like- Nintendo: We hear the fans, we just don’t care. You’ll buy the game anyway.

    • @yeettm8014
      @yeettm8014 4 года назад +6

      Fans could be different depending on which type of game they want. Some like the newer games, some like the older games. While it could be disheartening to hear that’s its not what it used to be maybe things could’ve been different if they didn’t have the restrictions since stickerstar.

    • @an3582
      @an3582 4 года назад +11

      @@CimyrRazely Sad but True, most people do that. I didnt buy Pokemon S&S, I was so hopeful about this one and nope, not getting it either.

    • @groudongamer3178
      @groudongamer3178 4 года назад +3

      @@CimyrRazely this primarily applies to gamefreak if anything.

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 4 года назад +5

      @@lilylopnco And It STILL doesn't explain the lack of RPG mechanics In the past 3 games.

  • @IfrloveCoCoMelon
    @IfrloveCoCoMelon Год назад +3

    Imo origami king is amazing .
    The combat system is nice since you actually have to use your head and think strategic. The story is great , the music is absolutely amazing and the main/side characters are likeable. The locations are cool and in total - I love and recomend this game to everyone who wants to have a fun time and hours of enjoyable gameplay .
    ( I feel like most ppl hate this game because of the strategic aspect and the puzzles)

  • @jamescanjuggle
    @jamescanjuggle 4 года назад +14

    I was sold the second the trees started singing like "Grease"

  • @radioffIine
    @radioffIine 4 года назад +1

    I think the funniest thing about the extra completionist rewards is that I remained cautious during my playthrough to avoid infamous cases of an unreachable toad barring you from the game’s 100% reward or a glitch in Shangri-Spa that basically softlocked your whole save file. Then by the time I receive the game’s vanilla completionist reward, I find out that the “real” route towards completion is to restart from the very beginning of the game so that I can 100% it yet again but without getting any game overs or equipping any battle accessories. This punch-in-the-gut of a revelation is about as painful as if I had ever wound up having to restart the entire game for any of the other aforementioned circumstances.

  • @militantpacifist4087
    @militantpacifist4087 4 года назад +93

    The only thing I didn’t like about this game was the battle system.

    • @kamiotamega5317
      @kamiotamega5317 4 года назад +16

      I liked it for the bosses but not the enemies
      And fuck the puzzles like the olly fight for example

    • @morningbowl3156
      @morningbowl3156 4 года назад +19

      I actually liked it, it felt me feel like a smarty pants

    • @blahblahgamer827
      @blahblahgamer827 4 года назад +3

      @Jack Black its not?

    • @mystcat3
      @mystcat3 4 года назад +6

      All of these are baby puzzles, until shy guy challenge level 3

    • @morningbowl3156
      @morningbowl3156 4 года назад +13

      gabsr I wouldn’t say baby puzzles tbh

  • @iOmen
    @iOmen 4 года назад +3

    That Donkey Kong remix SLAPPPED AT THE END i want it it sounds so good

  • @evanmarcus5975
    @evanmarcus5975 4 года назад +8

    Holy crap. Jirard got almost as many toads here as he did Koroks in Breath of the Wild.

  • @deadaccount2968
    @deadaccount2968 4 года назад +10

    8:37 This would be more impactful if several times throughout the Paper Mario games bob-ombs didn't come back after blowing up. What makes bob-ombs like Bobby different from Bombette and Bobbery?

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 4 года назад +1

      That's my point exactly! At the same time, it's a real shame that IS the case, because I can see how meaningful it would've felt had that precedent not been established. What tips it over to "wrong" in my eyes is that they still could've come up with an explanation that worked (size of the explosion, certain Bob-ombs being Elites, an issue with the fuse being lost then reattatched...). Even if I didn't like the justification that much, I would've appreciated the attempt at continuity. But nope, let's just pretend this was never brought up before.

    • @staticchimera44
      @staticchimera44 4 года назад +3

      @@ShadwSonic
      1) It's a different universe, you can't assume that there will be any continuity between games.
      2) Bobby is a factory made bob-omb, whereas Bobbery and Bombette are organic bob-ombs. Factory made bob-ombs are made with one purpose, and one purpose alone. To explode, and to be replaced.
      They didn't act like it was never brought up before, the explanation was always there.

    • @Cerebrum123
      @Cerebrum123 4 года назад +1

      This and the fact that even Bowser minion Bob-ombs can regenerate(just not in one battle due to game mechanics) it makes the whole thing come off as cheap emotional manipulation. The "he's just a factory made Bob-omb!" is a rationalization that doesn't fit when you know the previous games had them survive explosions just fine. They even have them in a little parade at the end of Paper Mario 64 where at the end they wave at you with their little arms.

    • @TwilightYonder720
      @TwilightYonder720 4 года назад +1

      "Factory made Bob-Omb and organic Bob-Omb"
      These aren't real/canon just head canon to avoid the retcon

    • @deadaccount2968
      @deadaccount2968 4 года назад +1

      @@staticchimera44 It's part of the Paper Mario series. Unless it states otherwise, all the PM games happen in the same universe. It's like saying that each mainline Mario game is a separate universe. It makes no sense. I mean, it makes no sense either way, but still.
      "Bobby is a factory made bob-omb, whereas Bobbery and Bombette are organic bob-ombs. Factory made bob-ombs are made with one purpose, and one purpose alone. To explode, and to be replaced.
      "
      Where is this ever said? Why not just have a bunch of "organic" bob-ombs that are loyal and can keep blowing up again and again rather than mass produce them? Why even give them personalities if they *only* exist to blow up and be replaced? Bowser is egotistical, but he's not stupid. It would cost way more to mass produce than just feed and house the explosion resistant ones. "Factory made" bob-ombs make less and less sense the more you think about.

  • @lerm8433
    @lerm8433 4 года назад +8

    I think the characterization in Origami king was actually handled really well, where instead of having a handful of characters bursting with personality to offset the ocean of lifeless ones, this game gave every base character an interesting personality.

  • @KittyKatty999
    @KittyKatty999 4 года назад +9

    "We're not allowed to create new characters that effect the Mario universe"
    *Creates SENTIENT ORIGAMI*
    Miyamoto isn't just oppressive and out of touch with what people want, he's also a massive hypocrite.

    • @OneAndZer0
      @OneAndZer0 4 года назад +3

      Placing limitations on creating something isn't oppressive. "Limitations breed creativity" is literally something my music teacher taught us. Gamers are such a whiney bunch. This was the best Paper Mario game in years. It's not perfect, but a lot of fans consider it at least good. How is creating something that fans enjoy out of touch with what they want? Because it's not exactly what you want?

    • @maglevwhale5951
      @maglevwhale5951 4 года назад +3

      @@OneAndZer0 TTYD fans can be a really toxic bunch. See r/papermario for my proof.

    • @hamidmehrdad5805
      @hamidmehrdad5805 4 года назад

      Maglev Whale ikr it’s the worst they are some of the most toxic fans I’ve seen and that’s saying something considering how many groups there are.

    • @Kirby950
      @Kirby950 3 года назад

      @@OneAndZer0 not to mention limitations is where Nintendo shined throughout its history

    • @valentai_777
      @valentai_777 3 года назад

      Man who would’ve thought that ppl who actually hardcore fanboy over PAPER MARIO games would be toxic weirdos
      Crazy surprise

  • @Goated_NickEh30
    @Goated_NickEh30 4 года назад +3

    Casual Viewer: Yeah. Good video.
    Me: *At **1:37** you forgot the number of the game in the bottom right!*

  • @collinmiller4721
    @collinmiller4721 4 года назад +1

    So happy that Jirard understands what makes this game a work of art. That note about the game being about “people” just encapsulated so much of why I think the story and those that inhabit it works.

  • @liviekumori
    @liviekumori 4 года назад +9

    The soundtrack of this game is amazing

    • @thechocolatearmor5797
      @thechocolatearmor5797 3 года назад

      Ikr it reminds me of studio Ghibli so I always get nostalgic for it lol

  • @discoron77
    @discoron77 4 года назад +2

    When I saw that Toad mention a "completionist" I couldn't wait for this video!

  • @RosieUniverseKitten
    @RosieUniverseKitten 3 года назад +3

    “Toads are the main collectible” well that’s interesting

  • @TheCC0807
    @TheCC0807 Год назад +1

    I've owned the game for so long and I love it and thought I did everything, but when I heard there was a no death achievement after 3 years of its release just shows how stupid it is that there is no hints towards that goal.

  • @majorxapocalypse
    @majorxapocalypse 4 года назад +3

    I agreed with you on everything for the fact that I also went through the processes just find out I didn’t actually 100% the game. I was just in awe by the environments and music. While I missed the unique characters, I loved the unique personalities. The writers did well to give the game life to a beautiful shell of a game. What I didn’t like was the unpausible/unresetable areas that required a little more time to get the trophies for, and the vast open areas that i wish had more thought in them. I also feel the ending was rushed just a tad. Also why put in achievements that make us not use aspects of the game that make the game more bearable and fun? Other than that I feel Nintendo held the development team back this time.

  • @christian0h
    @christian0h 4 года назад +1

    I'm doing no Death or Battle accessories run rn and the only real problem is being paranoid that you didn't home fast enough and the death still counted, or that tracker accessories go against the qualifications for the special ending. That means if your suspicion turns out true, all you did on this second run was useless.

  • @rob51design
    @rob51design 4 года назад +3

    I really like the production and editing on this one!

  • @realsteel6092
    @realsteel6092 4 года назад +1

    Honestly I personally don't like many of the games you complete, but the way you script everything just draws me to it. Good job!

  • @yogibear8683
    @yogibear8683 4 года назад +26

    Though they may finally get rid of that stupid card gimmick but the bosses In this along with some of the partners truly could've need more work and Imagination. Also R.I.P. Bobby Bob-Omb you will truly be missed!

    • @Howitchewstofeel5gum
      @Howitchewstofeel5gum 4 года назад

      You might want to put a Spoiler warning there for your last sentence

    • @damonlam9145
      @damonlam9145 4 года назад

      true and the completionist is focusing on people rather than character can help with the restrictions and plus there are no rules saying they can't reuse old character where are the bone pokeys, the lakitus and their king and just for fun bring back the old characters.

    • @grimsonforce7504
      @grimsonforce7504 4 года назад

      @@beegbobrossyoshi1230 I did like rubber band and hole punch surprisingly. The devs and writers tried to give them personalities but overall I felt they could have done better.

  • @todangtall
    @todangtall 4 года назад +1

    If you want some classic Paper Mario goodness, you should check out Citizens of Space. It's the very underrated sequel to Citizens of Earth. Which is a very underrated love letter to Earthbound.

  • @JackAttackgamingXD
    @JackAttackgamingXD 2 года назад +9

    This is game is actually one of the best "return to form" game I've seen since Mario Sunshine to Oddesey and even tho Galaxy 1 is a masterpiece and Galaxy 2 is absolute perfection without any flaws (EXCEPT THE PERFECT RUN) they did feel linear

    • @harribo2323
      @harribo2323 Год назад +1

      ​@@moonsoon1038i think that they meant super mario odyssey was the first mario game of that style since sunshine

  • @WhopsInc.
    @WhopsInc. Год назад +1

    After watching Chuggaaconroy's videos on Sticker Star I know realized that Miamoto didn't force the developers to never ever make new characters he only suggested *once* that they shouldn't do that and it was the developers choice to never make new characters in the long run.

  • @aruwaurachi9649
    @aruwaurachi9649 4 года назад +18

    Your french prononciation was actually pretty good
    - a random french dude

  • @mercyscene
    @mercyscene 4 года назад +1

    This video's intro was the most hilarious Completionist intro I've ever seen! Great job Jirard!

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 3 года назад +4

    We need an HD remake of The Thousand Year Door.

  • @CascadeHope
    @CascadeHope 4 года назад +1

    I’m very glad I found out about the ‘secret achievements’ early on in my playthrough. I found out just after failing a couple times in Eddy River and seeing a video that mentioned secret achievements. After hearing about them, I did restart the file and it took about 3-4 hours to get back to that point.

  • @MrNitron87
    @MrNitron87 4 года назад +4

    Wow it's been a looooooong time since I've been in the first 100 views,mlove your content jirard, you inspire the way I play games

  • @waynemidnight7454
    @waynemidnight7454 4 года назад +1

    13:26 this Toad took me much longer than it should have to find! Even with the Toad Radar!

  • @themi9404
    @themi9404 4 года назад +3

    Noooo! I thought I had completed it before I discovered the 2 badges here. Im not going to go for them because I just dont have the time.

  • @andresacosta7885
    @andresacosta7885 4 года назад +2

    You should play Bug Fables. It’s a very good tribute to the original 2 Paper Mario games

  • @zacharyk.2766
    @zacharyk.2766 4 года назад +9

    Review Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story!! please

    • @JohnnyOMalley22
      @JohnnyOMalley22 4 года назад +3

      R.I.P. Alpha Dream. I really enjoyed that game.

  • @shot-gi6mr
    @shot-gi6mr 4 года назад

    This highlights one of the important questions of game devepment. If you add a bonus for completing difficult challenges, you force completionists to do unresonable tasks, but if you don't, then the people who put themselves through these challenges are don't are left without a reward.

  • @ma99954
    @ma99954 4 года назад +9

    5:51 oh my god the way he pronounces "bow" makes me unreasonably angry

    • @grimsonforce7504
      @grimsonforce7504 4 года назад

      Lol it made me laugh honestly. Especially since he's said her name in another video.

  • @lowkey-making-stuff
    @lowkey-making-stuff 3 года назад +1

    6:14 that was the most effective jumpscare in my live

  • @seanc7342
    @seanc7342 4 года назад +3

    "Story telling remained solid overall" shows footage of sticker star 😶😶😶😶

  • @facade11663
    @facade11663 3 года назад +1

    Sounds like the "no game over" and "no battle items" should be considered 110% completion after all it already said "you got 100%" before even giving them to you

  • @johnjekyllson28
    @johnjekyllson28 4 года назад +4

    I just completed this myself two days ago! Other than refighting the bosses and perfecting that stressful game show, I really enjoyed completing it. Those two parts nearly ruined the completion experience for me, though.

  • @F-ZERO
    @F-ZERO 4 года назад

    That completion roadblock mirrors what they did in Super Mario 3DLand where you essentially couldn't use the Super Tanuki Leaf when you completed a stage

  • @finngolding9506
    @finngolding9506 4 года назад +11

    “Stop laughing at m-“ I died 🤣🤣🤣

  • @xenghuong
    @xenghuong 4 года назад +1

    I hate people that keep bashing the game for not being another TTYD and not seeing the game for what it is, but I honestly can't blame them too much as well. Consumers LOVED all the new characters that the old Paper Mario games had. Seeing a side character like Bomb-omb just being Bomb-omb is such a shame.

  • @gddanielk8491
    @gddanielk8491 4 года назад +3

    I need to 100% thsi game. I really loved completing the story

  • @ketherga
    @ketherga 3 года назад +1

    Origami King is probably as good as this format of Paper Mario can get. But that's still miles below TTYD.

  • @mathewwilson3476
    @mathewwilson3476 4 года назад +10

    None of the characters stuck out to you, but they left an impression on you? Are you implying that none of characters or NPCs are impact-full. You haven't really made a clear distinction of what a character and a person is.

    • @pczb2692
      @pczb2692 4 года назад +3

      That's the one thing that always bother me a bit with Completionist videos, sometimes the script just says two different things and you have no idea what it's trying to convey.

    • @enderallygolem
      @enderallygolem 4 года назад +12

      No individual toads are by themselves memorable, but toads as a whole are memorable
      I guess?

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 4 года назад +1

    I just beat this game with no battle accessories. It was fun, with humorous moments, memorable characters, and being able to get super-dark while remaining kid-friendly, in a way akin to the endgames of Kirby games. I mean, if the premise wasn’t that everyone is made of paper, the defaced Toads would have gaping, bloody holes, and Paper Mistake Buzzy Beetle would’ve been most likely a auto M rating.

  • @SamuelSarette
    @SamuelSarette 4 года назад +13

    When was "fini-plete" it axed? That's a valid rating: "more than finish, less than complete"

    • @frickthefuckoff
      @frickthefuckoff 4 года назад +1

      He said in a vid before that he is going to commit to his rating and not go down the middle.

  • @gkm7850
    @gkm7850 4 года назад +2

    Now im a little sad that the "no continues" and "no battle items" things are true because im almost at the end of the game and im discovering this now, but at least the game was fun and ill at least be able to have one badge at the corner of my save

  • @J05Youtube
    @J05Youtube 4 года назад +25

    I wonder when Jirard will finally review Sticker Star... if he ever does lol.

    • @kamiotamega5317
      @kamiotamega5317 4 года назад +3

      You mean the only irredeemable paper mario (the only thing good is the gfx but hard to screw that up)

    • @Invidente7
      @Invidente7 4 года назад +1

      @@kamiotamega5317 you can thank shigeru miyamoto for that

    • @sinteleon
      @sinteleon 4 года назад +3

      @@kamiotamega5317 Wasn't the music good too?

    • @kamiotamega5317
      @kamiotamega5317 4 года назад +1

      @@sinteleon yes

    • @bobafett4265
      @bobafett4265 4 года назад

      @@Invidente7 classic the reason why Paper Mario is in the state it's in right now...

  • @tomb411
    @tomb411 4 года назад +1

    I never played the retro paper mario (wii and prior entries) AND I love the writing and humour in the recent titles. I love how it's a less intense "rpg" since I already have too many hardcore games on my hand already. I found COlour SPlash extremely satisfying to 100% with the colour hammer and am looking forward to playing this game!

  • @MrToujang
    @MrToujang 4 года назад +4

    Me: Depressed because I got a single game over when I beat the game.
    Olivia: *Laughs in Chain Chomp*

  • @ryugaknight
    @ryugaknight 4 года назад +2

    How funny, I was just watching your Thousand Year door video.

  • @PepperMarioo
    @PepperMarioo 4 года назад +12

    Mhmmm If this game is a nightmare to complete to Jirard, I DEFINETLY DIDNT completed it even so i though I did ....

    • @PepperMarioo
      @PepperMarioo 4 года назад +2

      ahhhhhh bullshit ultra secret endings , i knew it ...

  • @bartowo
    @bartowo 3 года назад +1

    I didnt know the completionist did game essays??? I thought he would just go over completing the game, but this was a really fun surprise.

  • @theguitarhero649
    @theguitarhero649 4 года назад +3

    Holy shit, I didn't even know about the secret completion thing. I thought I'd 100%'d weeks ago lol

  • @painfish208
    @painfish208 3 года назад

    Fun fact: the “trick out there” for shy guys finish last is called your phone’s camera can’t a very fundamental understanding of how a rubick’s cube works. Eddie River? No such luck.