Those outside of Manchester still don't realise that until the 1958 tragedy (in which they rightfully deserved global support), CIty we're always the biggest club for half of the both clubs existence
@citysouthstandlad You are absolutely correct pal. Their fans talk about how their club nearly died in '58 What they don't realise is that it was born in '58.
@@christopherwilson3442 Yes, we know all about the trophies the rags have won. Try looking into the 30's and learn u****d's total history. Why do you think we call them "Rags"
I’m a United fan but I respect City and their records they’re breaking currently. Although I just don’t want them to win another treble 😅 that would hurt
As an old school blue I enjoyed this - however you neglected to mention the reason united wear a blue away kit ! This is because at the start of the 30-31 season united did not have an away kit amd had no money to buy one, the rules stipulated that a club must have an away kit in order to compete in the league - City gave them their spare home kit !
Not the first time City helped United either, City providing Maine Road after the war as Old Trafford was bombed, and in a round about way City talked Matt Busby from retiring to Canada after he finished playing for City, and talked him into management, fast forward a few years and he leads United to their first big successful period.
Nah Utd fans know we’ve got history and still say it. The best man at my wedding is a Rag and he says it as “banter” but he knows we still hold the record for the biggest crowd outside of Wembley, he knows we won a trophy before they did, were called “Manchester” before them, actually play our home games in Manchester when they don’t and he knows about our glory era under Mercer and Allison.
Another “interesting” point is that Newton Heath and Old Trafford were never within the boundary of Manchester City, whereas Hyde Rd was and it’s not unreasonable to say that United never had a legitimate claim to adopt Manchester as a name in the first place.
I’m a blue but Newton Heath was from 1890. That said, ignoring the years they had to borrow Maine Road, at the charity of City, they’ve only actually had their own stadium in Manchester for 20 years of their entire history… and not since 1910. How the scruffy fuckers claim Manchester is red is hilarious. They’d have to play their first!
@@illiteratethug3305 It wasn’t when Newton Heath were formed, but it was for a small period of time when United played there. Fun fact is Newton Heath/United have only played in Manchester for 25 years of their entire history, and 5 of those seasons they played at Maine Road, Manchester City’s ground, whilst Old Trafford was being reconstructed.
Also - did you know that UEFA offered City a place in the 58-59 European Cup, which the club declined as they had not earned it on the field of play ! Why did uefa make the offer ? Because they were amazed at the support City had given their rivals after the Munich air disaster ! And what did utd ever give City - a clock reminding us of how long we'd gone without winning anything - utd fans, classy as ever !
@@christopherwilson3442 It's true. Football was not much organised those days and UEFA wanted representation from great footballing Cities. Contrary to present and popular belief, City was very heavily supported club during those days, so when UTD suffered the tragedy, UEFA actually asked City to participate, but City denied as they didn't want to take well earned place of UTD just because they were going through a tragedy and wanted to show compassion as the time was for thinking about humanity than of just football rivalry. Kudos to City. Can't take that away from them.
I remember suggesting this video to you long back. I'm a month late but thank you anyways for another amazing video. Big respect and a big fact check for deluded United fans.
It's the media that should be more responsible. They feed off on narratives that only certain clubs have "history" when most clubs are over 100 yrs old
Utd had been propped up by City for decades they could have gone back to the swamp after one season but stayed for three because they were making so much money. The gates went from 25,000 to 55,000 but dropped back once they returned to old trafford.
Categorically false, United still owe money to City to this day for its use. Let’s not forget Utd also used Maine Road in the 1950s, as Old Trafford didn’t have floodlights meaning you couldn’t play European fixtures there. United owe City tons in gratitude for keeping their club going. What did they do when the roles reversed and City were fucked? Mocked City instead of helping. And you lot wonder why City fans hate you so much.
@@tomben6180 So, Utd not only crapped on City in the 1950's over floodlights but also in the early 1920's when the Hyde Road stadium burnt down and the rags said City couldn't play their matches at the swamp. Add to that the Busby Babes families who got kicked out of their homes and Martin Edwards selling rancid meat to Manchester schools and you see before you a truly shitty club operating inside of the glorious history they want the world to see on the outside.
Exactly 💯. Thanks for spreading this helpful information to everyone.
Historically, without City, United wouldn’t exist already, and definitely wouldn’t have much success…
Those outside of Manchester still don't realise that until the 1958 tragedy (in which they rightfully deserved global support), CIty we're always the biggest club for half of the both clubs existence
@citysouthstandlad You are absolutely correct pal. Their fans talk about how their club nearly died in '58 What they don't realise is that it was born in '58.
League champions two previous seasons to 57/58.
United won the cup in 1948, they beat Blackpool 4-2 at Wembley. Matt Busby's first big win.
@@christopherwilson3442 Yes, we know all about the trophies the rags have won. Try looking into the 30's and learn u****d's total history. Why do you think we call them "Rags"
@@christopherwilson3442 While cashing in at Maine Road.
I’m a United fan but I respect City and their records they’re breaking currently. Although I just don’t want them to win another treble 😅 that would hurt
As an old school blue I enjoyed this - however you neglected to mention the reason united wear a blue away kit ! This is because at the start of the 30-31 season united did not have an away kit amd had no money to buy one, the rules stipulated that a club must have an away kit in order to compete in the league - City gave them their spare home kit !
It’s why they’re nicknamed the Rags
Very well documented...history of our clubs is amazing
Not the first time City helped United either, City providing Maine Road after the war as Old Trafford was bombed, and in a round about way City talked Matt Busby from retiring to Canada after he finished playing for City, and talked him into management, fast forward a few years and he leads United to their first big successful period.
Thanks city for letting United fans fill the away end and also in the home end at Maine rd on derby days 👍
Excellent upload, I hope a lot of United "fans" can watch this....Their "History" that they they cling to is rather selective....🤔🤣🤣🤣
I don't blame fans for claiming City have no history....I blame the media. They should know this kinda information and they should reference it
Nah Utd fans know we’ve got history and still say it.
The best man at my wedding is a Rag and he says it as “banter” but he knows we still hold the record for the biggest crowd outside of Wembley, he knows we won a trophy before they did, were called “Manchester” before them, actually play our home games in Manchester when they don’t and he knows about our glory era under Mercer and Allison.
Another “interesting” point is that Newton Heath and Old Trafford were never within the boundary of Manchester City, whereas Hyde Rd was and it’s not unreasonable to say that United never had a legitimate claim to adopt Manchester as a name in the first place.
I’m a blue but Newton Heath was from 1890. That said, ignoring the years they had to borrow Maine Road, at the charity of City, they’ve only actually had their own stadium in Manchester for 20 years of their entire history… and not since 1910.
How the scruffy fuckers claim Manchester is red is hilarious. They’d have to play their first!
Newton Heath is
@@illiteratethug3305 It wasn’t when Newton Heath were formed, but it was for a small period of time when United played there.
Fun fact is Newton Heath/United have only played in Manchester for 25 years of their entire history, and 5 of those seasons they played at Maine Road, Manchester City’s ground, whilst Old Trafford was being reconstructed.
This is great content keep it up bro 🔥🔥
And they say city have no history before 2008
Mighty city
Also - did you know that UEFA offered City a place in the 58-59 European Cup, which the club declined as they had not earned it on the field of play ! Why did uefa make the offer ? Because they were amazed at the support City had given their rivals after the Munich air disaster ! And what did utd ever give City - a clock reminding us of how long we'd gone without winning anything - utd fans, classy as ever !
Not true
United were offered a place but Alan Hatdaker vetoed it.
@@christopherwilson3442 It's true. Football was not much organised those days and UEFA wanted representation from great footballing Cities. Contrary to present and popular belief, City was very heavily supported club during those days, so when UTD suffered the tragedy, UEFA actually asked City to participate, but City denied as they didn't want to take well earned place of UTD just because they were going through a tragedy and wanted to show compassion as the time was for thinking about humanity than of just football rivalry.
Kudos to City. Can't take that away from them.
I remember suggesting this video to you long back. I'm a month late but thank you anyways for another amazing video. Big respect and a big fact check for deluded United fans.
As United were so poor didn’t City give United their old kit. Yet another favour
I have spoken of this for years.
It's the media that should be more responsible. They feed off on narratives that only certain clubs have "history" when most clubs are over 100 yrs old
Man city is a legendary club.
Man city are 115 times cheating b4st4rds
For having a middle eastern sugar daddy.
@@christopherwilson3442 for having the most competitive coach
In your dreams.
@@christopherwilson3442 lol then for all the trophies won
City! City! City! 👏🤝
City are a MASSIVE club 😂
for th algorithm.
Gay village 💀💀💀
Hahaha,
Nice story... Faking data's ✌️
City were well paid by United for the use of their pitch. They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts, they did it to make money.
I'm sorry, but this video has nothing to do with Manchester United's use of Maine Road.
Utd had been propped up by City for decades they could have gone back to the swamp after one season but stayed for three because they were making so much money. The gates went from 25,000 to 55,000 but dropped back once they returned to old trafford.
so letting u use our stadium is not kind enough. But have to let u use it for free. Do u wanna us to hold ur hands too?😂
Categorically false, United still owe money to City to this day for its use.
Let’s not forget Utd also used Maine Road in the 1950s, as Old Trafford didn’t have floodlights meaning you couldn’t play European fixtures there.
United owe City tons in gratitude for keeping their club going. What did they do when the roles reversed and City were fucked? Mocked City instead of helping.
And you lot wonder why City fans hate you so much.
@@tomben6180 So, Utd not only crapped on City in the 1950's over floodlights but also in the early 1920's when the Hyde Road stadium burnt down and the rags said City couldn't play their matches at the swamp.
Add to that the Busby Babes families who got kicked out of their homes and Martin Edwards selling rancid meat to Manchester schools and you see before you a truly shitty club operating inside of the glorious history they want the world to see on the outside.