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Are Men Obsolete? Q & A: Karen Straughan Speaks at Ryerson University
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"Q & A: Are Men Obsolete? Feminism, Free Speech and the Censorship of Men's Issues."
On February 6, 2014, CAFE invited RUclips sensation, Karen Straughan, a Canadian human rights activist, blogger and writer, to speak at the launch of the Ryerson-based Men's Issues Awareness Society. Topics covered: male suicide epidemic and violence, lack of attention to men's physical and mental health, declining male university enrollment, parental alienation against fathers, and misandry in popular culture.
The girl who said "If I wear a short skirt, ill get harrassed"
as a man that statement works for me as well. If I wear a short skirt, ill get harrassed just as much lol
+L33TPWNERS Ha! LOL! Brillaint!
I know the feel bro
+L33TPWNERS To be honest, you'd get harassed even more lol
If not more to be honest
+L33TPWNERS Whether I agree with any, part, or all of what the young lady said I applaud her bravery. Thank you Karen!
Thank you Karen for supporting us men.
Alvin Surrealist yes. Amen...! I'm sub'd.
It's not about us men, it's about sustainability of the world.
@@SA-Napalm men do need support. Men do need to be defended. The society today is against men and if you have event been married and divorced you will see how emotionally destroyed men get because of selfish femenists wives. It's not just about her in marriage. That's toxic way of thinking. Men lead the family not the women.
@@douglaconti7113
حكمنا
@@twoaddictive even looking at men’s suicide rate is depressing
If being cat called is the first thing that comes to your mind when complaining about inequality in your life you should count your blessings
Not to mention she seems to believe that it is systematic. But "you cannot hit a girl" is not systematic at all.
She was kinda the type that got upset she didn't got a present, though it wasn't her birthday.
@Stefon Palinic so she proved your point, right? Unfortunately people like her will never see the irony in this
Be aware they're not even realising that what they're trying to outline is that their perception value and view has a greater precedent over another by saying cat-calling is wrong as it is based on their own personal feelings over an act that can have a positive or negative response dependant on the individual. So them arguing for it to be criminalised is saying no one is equal.
@Stefon Palinic The lines between catcalling and harrasment have been blurred cat-calling is cat-calling what would be aggressive is subject to the individual, not sure who is ok with it but I know this narrative is trying to re-engineer the next generation to go out and label things not harmful as harmful.
Karen is like the mother of Men's Rights. I'd approve a statue of her.
MS Id volunteer my labor to build the fucking thing. Plus itd be a sexy statue.
MS
Just won't worship any object, as I much as her.
👌💕💗💕
Ironically, I'm sure a group of angry femenists would tear down thst statue...of a strong independent woman.
@@RickSanchez-ex7ym lmao
A woman and a man apply for a job:
The man is MORE qualified.
The woman gets the position because of quotas...
Where's the equality???
Jillian Costa right, it's definitly not fair. Sure, it was not fair to choose men instead of women decades ago. But nowadays there's no discrimination anymore. I have never heard someone say: She's qualified but I don't hire her because she's a woman. Equal rights exist now, it's not 1950. A qualified women will be chosen but they don't need these stupid quotas. To fight previous injustices with current injustices is stupid and wrong.
+Jillian Costa This is illegal.
See Regents of the University of California v. Bakke
Companies and schools can not use race or gender when considering who to hire or teach.
Quotas also don't work like you probably think they work. See Ricci v. DeStefano.
Well, it doesn't apply to every job. And it defiantly doesn't ALWAYS happen.
Its the worst in STEM jobs
Jillian Costa Oh, this man is perfect for the job! But we have more men than women...hire the woman
I love how men are completely fine with a humans rights activist who is female that recognises men's issues to represent them. If a male was giving a talk for feminists, they would discredit him because 'he doesn't understand' because he is a male and therefore can't support women's rights.
+ShamanGrayson
No, they would descredit him because feminist's ideology is about the same of hitlers. Which is why we call them "Feminiazi"
For example:
*Girl hits and pushes guy for an unknown reason*
*Girl continues to hit person and insult them*
*Guy pushes the girl in self defence*
Feminist: You cant do that! They're a girl you can't hit them!
Or, like Karen stated.
*Boy is pushed off 10 feet snowpile by girl*
*Boy throws a snowball at the girl in anger*
Feminist: It dosen't matter you could have snapped your neck or your bones in that push, you can't throw the snowball at her because she hurt you!
Feminism should have ended a long time ago, when they WERE given equal rights.
Feminists now just want more and more, wanting more rights than men and some of the rights of men(such as self defence) taken away. They want gender superiority.
I honestly don't give a shit what gender is supporting feminism, they're both wrong if they support it at this day in time.
SlyFox I know of someone who was appointed the head of women's rights at his university and he was genuinely interested in helping and wanted to make a difference, but too many women complained so he had to step-down.
ShamanGrayson
Oh, my bad i'm an illiterate imbecile. I didn't notice you were actually against feminazi-ism as well. I normally write these comments because I usually end up arguing with feminists late at night(EST) when I watch some of their videos.
SlyFox All good, I understand!
+Noah Birthisel You are funny. You little cute twinky pillow bitter, NOW GO WASH THE DISHES! Now that is the end BI A CH
Men are nicer to women is so true. When the guys stop seeing me as a female and as one of the guys, oh hoo there's no more filters lol In the beginning, they sort of police each other like, "dude, there's a girl here!! Stop doing/saying that!" Feminists claim they want equal treatment but most can't handle it when guys treat them like one of the guys.
Ashlyn Hermit I definitely agree on that last part. I'm a male myself and if I were on the opposite sex, I'd definitely would hate to be treated physically and mentally as a guy.
I'm curious how the reverse would work. How would a guy feel if women treated him like one of the girls. I suspect it would be weird for both parties. The guy would shrug off all the social rules in the female ordering and not really be able to function in it. I'd love to test this hypothesis.
No Wuv Deep 80808 so true. i love when they start giving you shit like one of the boys aswell. it shows that you have gained their respect beyond just being a female.
I hate being around females. I'm so much happier when I'm hanging with men because they understand equality even if they're not able to act on it.
Men honestly, don't care if you are a female or not we care if you want to REALLY hang out or not. Once it becomes clear you just want to hang out and have fun and not be the sole vagina in a group of dicks you are in. But, once you are in don't get all girly because you WILL be one of the guys, all or nothing.
Karen's views are what every man and woman in the 21st century should embrace. True equality of the sexes, where neither gender is favoured above the other, but where both have their own unique, and equally important, roles to play.
True that
Right? I mean how hard is this?
considering that most people want power over another it is very hard. Women hold power and very few of them want to give it up for the greater good for example.
Feminists don’t want equality...women have far surpassed that...they want to expand and retain their superiority!! Patriarchy?? Hahahahaha Made up myth by men-hating Fems!!
@@JRayPG And a woman in power almost always becomes corrupt. And their corruption far exceeds the corruption of men.
The girl just had to say that she is openly gay, it had nothing to do with the argument. She just wanted them to feel sorry for her...
She's a radical lesbian feminist.
Throwing out the Gay card is getting out of hand Why do gays always have to tell me there gay. I didn’t care. So don’t tell me.
She was just providing a live example of the issue being discussed.
And she said it as if everyone would be surprised by her revealing this. Just another checkbox mark on her oppression list.
It was a completely irrelevant remark, nobody will know you're gay from you just walking down the street (well I guess if you're really flamboyant people extrapolate it from that but normally you can't) so she isn't being harassed for it, also I highly doubt people give a shit enough to start something if you're just walking down the street.
I don't think she said it so people would "feel sorry for her", why would you feel sorry for someone just because they're gay? It was probably a case of her not having a well-thought argument and spoke before she knew where she was going with it, because it was a pretty pointless argument.
The difference between a man hitting a woman and a women hitting a man is one would end up in jail and the other would be laughed off as a joke.
but this needs to change, seriously.
Video: "Are men obsolete?"
Me: Can women build a bridge?
RUclips modderator: *bans me
🤣👌👍 ...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They can actualy
Anyone can build a bridge.
@@anonymouschannel9543 Then why aren't women choosing to become construction workers and engineers? Those jobs pay better than nursing and teaching.
@@hobbybaschtler7896 So give me a bridge build by mostly women...One.
When a man hits a woman, society reacts. When a woman hits a man, society is silent. That's what dealing with men issue is for me. To make society react in any situation. Nobody reasonable think that is is okay to hit a woman. Nobody should think that it is okay to hit a man either. (and this goes for other issues as well)
every place is a safe space for a man, but he is subjected to more violence in workplace? Doublethink much?
Same here:)
Actually when a woman hits a man, society cheers, because it assumes that the man did something to deserve it
SJCAM Pp Men fight. Men hit each other. Women want equality? Really? They want their cake and they want to eat it.
It's worse than that when a women hit's a man the people in the immediate vicinity are more likely to laugh and cackle at the man. Not remain silent. But I do like the point you made.
When/If she hits a man first, she better be ready for ' repercussions !
lol at the girl who got all uppity. Typical millienial bs. I started dating a girl. A few weeks in she started with feminist talk. I cut it off, and when asked why I explained: "I feel that by being with you, my saftey and happiness is at risk." The best solution in dealing with unfair feminist is to just exclude them from your life. They can be amongst themselves, and clearly don't need men in their lives.
Yeah, they don't need men, except for all the stuff we invented and built. I really wish they could have the world for themselves for a week, men free, just to see how utterly shitty it would be.
+Phant0m
They go on about cultural appropriation. Maybe men should take back all the things they invented and made. lol
+Phant0m Right on my brother - go MGTOW!
+Phant0m Feminists say they can do ANYTHING men can do - they mention "Rosie the Rivitter" - fail to mention it was all the MEN, too old, or not qualified in WW2 for active duty, that helped these women!
Yup, I hear ya
About the girl at about 25 minutes in, I find two things very interesting. One is the fact that she seems to think that every single person on her campus knows she's gay, just because she's "openly gay". Unless she goes around with a tee shirt on that says "I am a lesbian" (and who knows, maybe she does) I have news for her, nobody knows or cares. She has such a self centered world view that I want to tell her the old poem, "Roses are red/Violets are blue/The world does not/Revolve around you."
The other thing is that she is so emotional that she can't restrain herself from throwing out an F bomb at a public lecture like that. Either that, or she doesn't care and thinks she should be allowed to say the F word all the time-but she probably would take serious offense if a man told her to "[F word] off" or similar.
***** Thank you very much!
whatsanenigma I wondered that, too. Does she walk down the street yelling "Hey, you! I'm a lesbian! What're you gonna do about it, hey, _stud_?"
whatsanenigma It's just fuck, it's just a word
100th like!
Correct! That’s a toxic female
I'm so glad this video is recommended to my video algorithm again... I remember watching this video 7 years ago. It's so relevant...
Bring your daughter's up to know that violence isn't the answer, but if you hit someone,expect to be hit back!! My son has been taught to finish the fight not start it. My daughter learned very young that if she hit him she'd get it back. And oh the peace. I was brought up with three older brothers and they weren't allowed to hit me! God I was a little bitch. I knew exactly how much power I had. After pushing them to breaking point,I'd run to mum,and smile smugly behind her back. Not proud of it,but I am proud that I broke the cycle.
Nasus Smith Good for you.
Hay, you grew up. Good. That's better than all too many people.
I loved how everyone was actually cringing during the hipster feminist
+Gay af Hah, I noticed a lot of literal face palming.
+mycattitude and random people calling out her bullshit.
+Gay af Most feminists are used to everyone agreeing with them--at least on college campuses. My college was so liberal, no one even looked right; they could only see left.
this comment literally wins.
Typical angry illogical leftist looking to be a victim. Men really need to start calling out this nonsense, this train of thought is destroying the civilized world.
I love how the feminist tries to say it's not ok to hit women back.. wtf?
women apparently, should be able to beat and attack men with impunity? well good fucking luck with that shit.
Would it be wrong to remind her, that in a primitive society, unlike ours, there would have been an obvious and inevitable response to the young girl's slapping of the six year old. I won't say what I think it would be. And neither would I justify that response. But this shows how far we have strayed, or maybe moved forward from our primitive condition. But we are not yet in a good space with these behaviors.
Women can be dangerous, I say HIT BACK. If someone just stands there, it escalates into worse and worse.
Equality means equality , equal hitting. Equality, doesn't mean a certain group, has rights over another group. They want equality, they get HIT back.
Here, it is against the law for anyone, male or female, to hit each other. The one who hits first, is the aggressor and goes to jail. The one hitting back is doing so in self defense. So , Yes, by all means, HIT BACK-then run!
Women are much more protected than men, and they simply want more of that privilege. They take it for granted
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." -William Shakespeare
"I'm an evolutionary biologist. I don't waste my time with all this men versus women nonsense." -Richard Dawkins PhD
"Triflin hoes be wrongin me n shit." -Tupac Shakur
"If women are equal to men, why are there no female super saiyans?" -Thomas Jefferson
lol
Flawed argument. There's more male sayains than female ones.
Whiterun Guard Dude ,Caulifa and her shy sidekick companion/female Broly are supersaiyans
Thomas Jefferson hit the nail on the head.
i love u
Karen, this is just what I have been looking for. I have struggled a lot in recent times. I used to simply leave a job if I tired of the "social dynamics" but I can't now. I have been a male nurse for 17 years (whether I would have chosen this career if given the choice again is a story for another day) and I get given a very tough time by women. Women who were supposed to be colleagues find it very difficult to hide their contempt for a man in this field, and men in general. The doctors, the paramedics get treated differently, the male nurse, however, well, I'll leave it there shall I. When men say this stuff about women we are labelled assholes or pigs but to have a women call out these attitudes gives it credibility. THANK YOU.
I will, most likely, never get to meet you in "real life". But you have my moral support, respect and appreciation for the labour you do as a male nurse. My best wishes to you and your beloved ones.
Question... do you still hold those same views and would you advise against becoming a male nurse?
@@EsteBahia I was at a bad point when I wrote that and I have managed to work through many of the issues. You have to get over chivalry and any idea you have that someone is innocent simply because they are a woman. You have to fight back.
I actually still would not advise men to become nurses. The risk of false claims is very high. I moved from an area of high patient contact where I was often alone with patients (ED), to one with less patient contact where I am never alone with a patient......ever (theatre). This has enabled me to resolve many of the issues I faced and I can now continue the rest of my working life in peace.
Sounds familiar doesn't it? You hear about women in male dominated fields being socially encouraged to fulfil only certain roles and pigeon-holed into other areas. It goes the same in reverse, there are many areas in nursing where men are simply not welcome. Why would you want to work somewhere you are not wanted?
Become a Police Officer, an Engineer, businessman, high school PE teacher, Paramedic etc.
@@4812megan I'm glad to hear that you were able to sort things out and are in a better place!
I used to work in the OR at a level one trauma center in the bay area in CA as an assistant, and witnessed some differences in how they treated male patients versus their female counterparts. I have experienced first hand how it's very restricting and how in the presence of women we have to tread lightly. I will definitely brainstorm on alternative career paths.
Thanks for your take on the matter and your time!
How are these going these days my dude?
Karen is correct. It is impossible to persuade ideological feminists. The primary focus must be on raising awareness among men, particularly young men.
Confused you’re right:It’s like talking to a wall feminist bitches will never ever have a different point of view And I’m sorry but ideological feminists are bitches. And I can say that because I am a legitimate female Who is anti-feminist I’m a lot like this chick right here Karen
About helping kids not grow up feeling immensely hated, being told you don’t deserve success and that to be anything but a straight white male has an effect.
I could sit and listen to Karen all night long! She is the voice of truth and reason!
I'm considering a tattoo
I Denver being bullied by a girl in grade school. When she made it physical, I gave her the greatest punch I could have ever possibly given, it was glorious. No one has the right to abuse
Thank you to every man in the history of the world for making,creating, costructing and most of all Imagining almost everything we have today to make our lives better.
24:07 Cue clueless, self-entilted, Tumblr feminist. Holy shit.
So so true
You can see the majority of the audience's frustration.
***** Amen
The echo chamber mentally is easy to spot when someone stands there throwing statistics in rapid fire succession. Work place accidents, violent assaults, low enrollment rates, higher suicide rates... Yet can't see any of this as systematic, because you haven't paid for your centuries of phallic dominance. Nor have you given up the top one percent status. Ninety percent of you live like slaves, yet that last one percent are masters of the universe so check your privilege, you oppressive SHITLORDS!!!
iagorincon Yeah, dying in wars, or being raped in prison is a clear indication of privilege.
Karen: you don't convince the feminist, you convince the people around her who are watching the discussion. 24:07: thank you openly gay student for proving her point.
Stupid little twit
Dion7
Was that the girl who was lesbian? A woman was the person who whistled that call. Buy she blamed a male.
Thanks Karen Straughan for your open mindedness and support of Men's Issues and therefore Human Rights Efforts in general.
I have been with my wife for 14 years about 6 years ago before we got married we had an argument a nieghbor called the police complained of violence. When there was none. My wife stated there was no violence. She came to court to state that she would not press charges. Did that stop the DA nope. And my public defender a young women told me all I could do is ride it out and it would be best to take a deal. Now I was 32 at the time with NO CRIMINAL HISTORY WHATSOEVER! I followed my lawyers advice and pleaded NO Contest to a deal. Smash cut to today. Around a month ago my wife asked me to drop my son off at a play date and she would pick him up. As I was leaving I saw a few of my friends, they invited me over for drinks and a game. I had a little too much to drink. I decide to sleep it off im my car keys NOT in the ignition. I get awoken by an officer stating that someone called a car robbery in!?!? I prove its my car the police officer states he will let me go just has to do a quick bg check. He does and a warrant pops up? I am confused there should be nothing I have completed all my court requirements. They take me in my wife contacts my public defender and asks whats going on? She states she forgot to turn im my completion papers and doesnt even offer an apology. Heres the kicker as I get released I see that they have put DUI and "Child Cruelty"???? Cause I dropped my son off at a play date and they assume I had already been drinking plus my record shows I beat women which is completely false. I lost a 90k job I am now paying through the teeth in legal fees fighting this. But the best part is my current paid lawyer told us that our public defender fucked us. Basically the DV case would have to have been thrown out if my wife never took the stand! Funny how my late 20's female public defender forgot to mention that. I just think I wasnt seen as part of the public she was meant to defend. I have been given other job offers cause of my experience only to be told we cant higher u because of your past. As some one who had a mother physically abuse me with a whip! A sister who stabbed me in the kidney and tried tossing me out of a moving car I know how evil and destructive women can be basically just as bad as anyone else. And as someone who decided not to take the path of violence which is evident in my prestine legal record before this happened. Either way I was hunted down as a witch and had his life taken away. I am still married to my wife and love her very much she has realized what has been happening to men and has always let me be masculine and tough with my son. Just knowing that being boys isnt inherently bad. This was tough for me to share but I hope it helps someone going through the same thing.
@ishant 7
Thats fucked up ... girls these days could bring guys in the court and accuse them and the judges the people the tv channels and the world will believe the girls
Bro the "legal system"
does not want justice......only paying customers
It's revenue enforcement not law enforcement
NEVER USE A PUBLIC DEFENDER! Pay for your own attorney even if you have to make payments for the next five years, it’s worth it.
that's really fucked up
Unfortunately for her, cat-calling does'nt happen nearly as often as she wishes it did
Oohhhhhhh, burn!
Have you seen her face!?! Her getting catcalled was a fucking lie.
+Blade Rovalty let's be honest, she's actually pretty good-looking.
+iseeicyicetea She is ugly as sin
+iseeicyicetea If she were much nicer as a person then she would be, but her personality makes her visually unappealing, you know?
"Men cant hit women"
Thats a big problem
No one should hit anyone but still, if a woman hits you its socially unacceptable to hit back
Also, if a man hits you, it's socially unacceptable to hit back.
Karl Pehk
Well, it should be at least.
SMProductions what does that mean? Are you saying that's how it should be or what?
Karl Pehk
Yes, I am.
Well you're wrong when you say that's how it should be because thats how it is, the authorities may give you a slap on the wrist if you're fighting back but your friends and peers will most likely respect you and would make fun of you if you didn't punch back or something like that
Men build the cities and men hold the wall, men keep your life protected, men do it all.
Men keep the system going men dig in mines, men have always had your back and been your valentines
When people come at you strongly men will rise for you, but if you call them obsolete...
FUCK YOU
Liesss
There are more female construction workers these days than before. Gender roles are changing.
How can a gender be obsolete? Both genders are needed
Unless gay/lesbian are put into the equation.
koban4max what a stupid comment, they can adopt kids even tho that doesn't really matter because not all straight people have kids.
thepaystation Gender confusion?
koban4max
? are you referring you trans
koban4max lmao, I'm a straight male
Karen you are a voice of sanity in an emotional shitstorm of crazy. I appreciate the intelligent and rational discourse.
Feminist chick felt too shamed to stay in the room lol. I enjoyed that.
"Nature has given women so much power that the law has very wisely given them little."
~ Samuel Johnson
you speaking nonesense laws only favor women and actual low it everything about women
@@estebanfernandez4870 Samual Johnson lived in the 17th century bub.
If only we had listened to him. BIg Mistake not to.
I guess we're obsolete up to the point of women needing our wallets.
😔 please guys don't believe msm and social media. There are women out there who respect the differences between men and women..who are traditional who were raised right.. Who believe the man is the head of the household and the spiritual leader as well. Make him your King = he makes you his queen. They're out there. They do not call themselves feminists. 99% chance they're on the right in politics and she believes in god..is against abortion etc. This is the kind of woman who isn't shacking up bc of money. She isn't Bc she has values morals and most important, INTEGRITY.
She is looking to see if he'll be a good dad and that means being there..not finances. If he'll have her back And vice versa.
I know there are shallow gold digger types..and worse... But there's is also the opposite of that.
We do exist. There are many women who support what men are going thru due to these awful feminists. Our thinking aligns with Karen's.
It's not hopeless. Not at all.
@@libertyjo6238 Here's the thing, as long as laws and social conventions are heavily against men, the situation won't get better. As a man, marriage is literally to bind yourself with a person that has a gun while you don't, who can use it without any repercussions whatsoever and all you can do is work your ass off to provide for her and pray she doesn't grow bored of you. You'd have to rely on her not pulling the trigger and she could do that out of sheer boredom or sparkle of interest in another man BECAUSE SOCIETY GIVES HER EVERY DAMN RIGHT TO DO SO. Yeah, I am sure a couple good women exist but a good woman with a gun is still potentially dangerous in a society that sweeps under the rug any possible wrongdoing on her part. Laws need to change, social conventions too.
@@toplad8113
But It's not so cut n dry. Tho your right about the laws needing to change.
....picture this tho. ..
He could easily have the gun ...bc if who you marry has integrity... then that gun will NEVER be used against you..not with the right one.
Integrity is extremely important.
Iv been with the same man for 24yrs. Sure. .We've nearly divorced but we worked thru it.. . but I never would've hurt him with what I could've taken advantage of.. Bc married or not...i LOVE him. Theres that integrity. Also wise not to marry a vindictive person. Which I'm not.
It's completely discounted...the love and integrity. I know a few couples who experienced dare I say... Respectable divorces and are better as friends today.
Each circumstance and relationship it's different.
So bc she comes into the marriage with a loaded weapon....doesn't equal her ever using it.
But great analogy.
@@libertyjo6238
Listen, I'm sure you have good intent on posting this but you need to put yourself the man's shoes. Please, keep in mind each and every modern woman is raised completely desensitized from what a man has to go through. Each and every modern woman is raised entitled to a men's unsolicited efforts to provide for her without men EVER being able to ask for anything in return. If women are specifically raised apathetic of all men, why do you believe they'd have any sort of integrity ? Would you encourage a slave who has a chance to run away to stay and pray he finds a good, gentle master ? Would you really do that ?
Finding the right one is a gamble. No matter how smart and cautious you are, you will never be able to perfectly assess whether a woman is the right one or not. It's simply not possible. And again, context, circumstances change people. The gooddest of all women with all the integrity there is could just have circumstances that would have her lean toward divorce and the second that happens, all that integrity won't matter because nobody would even try to stop her, not the law and definitely not the society. Love is a notion that fades. It's biochemical, it's based on attraction, etc. Long marriages do not survive thanks to love, they survive thanks to a necessity on each part. Usually, the woman's need for financial protection and the man's need for his child. Now that the law will forcefully extract the financial resources from a divorced man, why would the average woman even think twice before divorcing a man who isn't to her current liking when society wouldn't blame her one bit for it ? Why would the average woman feel remorse for a now dead husband when society does its best desensitizing her to the idea that his life mattered. Society doesn't promote cross-gender empathy as a virtue (at least, not to women). If you were tilting slightly more toward frustration or anger with your husband when your problems did arise, you would have turned vindictive and destroyed his life. I'm sorry but it is so cut n dry. I personally know three very close married friends of mine, who are THIS CLOSE to give up on their manipulative, enslaving and - both mentally and physically - abusive wives, only to swallow the sour pill and keep on working simply because they know very well they'll never survive divorce. Their lives would be effectively ruined. Instead they keep on breathing yet dead inside thanks to antidepressants, forced to work till they're broken for a bunch of vegetative hags who have life and death power over their lives.
Among men's suicide rates which are many times higher than women's, a big percentage of them are divorced. It is literally the worst imaginable outcome for any man. US Air Force men have a record high suicide rate this year, it is due to infidelity and by extension divorce, neither cheating nor divorce was engaged on their part, it was on the wife. US AIR FORCE I SAID. If even national heroes do not get any bit of empathy from their wives, why an average woman would feel any of it for her average husband ?
No assets, no custody, every damn responsibility still. Sometimes men would have the obligation to SUPPORT THE CHILD OF ANOTHER MAN. That is an absurdly high amount that you'll pay for the rest of your sorry life, it will cripple you and whoever wasn't rich enough to just roll with it and guess what ? Most people aren't rich enough.
And now, look at the divorce rates, the western world is at an all-time high and plenty of developing countries who adopted similar laws to the west are seeing a very similar pattern.
Again, entering a relationship with a partner with a loaded gun and simply wish she'll never use it is one of the stupidest, most reckless things a man could do, unless you believe in unicorns.
@@toplad8113 This is why a lot (that's not just an expression) just write women off as potential...anything. It's like taking up with a hand grenade that could go off any time in your life. The law will take any fallout from the situation and hold it against you because male. The fix is in with the system and a lot of males are learning that at an earlier and earlier age and making the decision that women just aren't worth it.
What the feminist cause has accomplished is to put women in a position where the potential liability they represent outweighs any positive potential they may present as partner or lifemates. She's all cool now but 30 years down the road you're used goods and she walks with half your pension, among other many things.
_The implicit threat that women have turned themselves into_ is responsible for them being more and more shunned by men. Who the hell needs to live with a bomb for the rest of your life? It is quite possible to live a full and productive life without the sword of Damocles hanging over your head 24/7.
If men walked, it's over. Back to the stone age in record time. Woman have not a single clue how it all works. Zero, zilch, nada. The cascading effects of that ignorance would be catastrophic beyond comparison. A single relay can bring down the entire electrical grid. Technological ignorance of the complexities of systems and machines would lead to nuclear meltdowns, widespread food shortages, disease, communication decimation, warning system failures for weather, massive deaths due to fuel shortages in subzero climates. And other interconnectedness of hell not even fathomable.
Are men obsolete? What a fucking joke.
What is obsolete are a class of individuals that do nothing, add nothing and produce nothing in this world. A class that if they did have legitimate issues could have them addressed easily under classical liberalism. A class that despite it's grandiose claims of equality, whatever the fuck that means, talk about the obsolescence of the very hand that keeps them alive in a condition worthy of hope for happiness. A class that.produce nothing but division.
Drum roll....
...Feminists.
You ignorance of the intelligence some women is mind boggling. I take it you are not an engineer or comp sci major, right? Cause any one in a tech field would know that, where the number of women in the tech fields are low, those in the tech fields are very capable. Likely infinitely more capable then you are. Would would likely happen is that tech advances would stop, and all efforts in the tech fields would be used to maintain current levels.
And at the same time, if all women worked, men would die in huge numbers do to the lack of medical care and children would go uneducated and uncared for. Neither seems like a good idea, but you clearly seem like a total idiot.
Loathomar
No ignorance here. Woman's intelligence is broader on the bell curve, ie more smart woman. Men have more geniuses but also more dunces. That is if you believe the stats. And I do. I'll even go as far as to say they can do almost anything a man does and do it better - barring physical strength. But they never will.
I'm not debating the capabilities of woman. What I'm saying is that if men walked tomorrow then woman would be fucked. There is not even remotely enough capable woman to run the exiting infrastructure created by men. The deaths would be close to extinction levels.
If woman walked tomorrow then men would roll over hit the snooze button and go back to sleep.
There might be some deaths from immediate shortages of nurses but they would be filled at breakneck speed. Children uneducated? Please? Strange how in the only part of history where woman have dominated the education fields the corresponding dropout rates and test scores have dramatically dropped among males. And correspondingly when men ruled academia the achievements of mankind were staggering.
Kids? Piece of cake.
Since you didn't challenge the arrogance and the absence of humanity in the statement "Are men obsolete" in this video, but instead decided to attack my comment I'll have to assume that you like most feminist psychopaths harbor comfortable notions of it at some sick level. So I would like to cordially invite you to go fuck yourself with a Dewalt articulating hammer drill.
Loathomar
Men aren't the ones going around questioning the existence of woman; are they Sponge Bob. My comment was a reality check to their bullshit. Not advocacy for the White Woman Supremacist Movement.
***** Your comment was retarded and sexist. Some women are sexist too... so?
Nothing illogical or unreasonable about my original comment. It is cold truth with no warm, fuzzy, feelies attached. I didn't attack woman's innate value as a human beings. I stated what I believe would be the reality of the situation. If you or woman find that degrading then deal with it. I find woman's lack of response to videos like this and the acceptance of the bullshit of feminists, quite degrading. So if I sometimes challenge their center of the universe mentality, then frankly I don't lose much sleep over it.
What I find more degrading is the continuous, relentless, bombardment of men as useless, obsolete, sub par, woman raping Neanderthals, that need to "man up" to woman's demands. FUCK YOU. If you think woman aren't in for the worst ride of their lives without men then I will write you off as full fledged fuck-tard right now. If you think that is sexist or denegrading, then fuck you again.
Because reason has emotive context attached to it doesn't make it less reasonable, just more likely to stick in the minds of woman. Logic and reason are all well and good and should carry the day but you don't sell the steak without the sizzle, especially to woman. And if you think that you are going to be more than a fart in the wind with your Klingon approach then you are kidding yourself, because woman don't respond to it as a whole. (Woops was that all sexist). Karen has her own style and all though it's more subtle she does emote and appeal to emotion both verbally and expressively.
You know what I find sexist. Men and Woman. General broad differences that scientists are finding more and more of day in and day out. But lets all pretend that were all exactly the same. Instead of maybe accepting and trying to tailor our differences so they best enhance each others and societies chances of fulfillment.
24.50 - "Men don't get catcalled" So that means men don't face other problems?? Seriously? Men don't need a place to talk about father's issues or suicide, unemployment, male rape victims, representation of men in media as violent bastards or idiot fathers (in sitcoms) because we don't get fucking cat-called? Is this woman having a laugh?
This is like a man ranting at a feminist meeting that women don't need spaces to talk about women's issues because women don't face problems in the Family Courts. Now doesn't that sound a bit disingenuous!?
Well, women Don't need space to talk. All the men genuinely wanting to protect them or needing to agree with their causes, in the hope of becoming 'friends' with them, makes in unnecessary. Women have always been protected in society. Too bad we've had to destroy men, first, in order to realize they might need protections, too. At what point will women move to help protect men? I hope that day comes because then all that violence that they deplore (benefit from) will begin to leech out of society.
"Men dont get catcalled" clearly hasn't been on a average night out in Cardiff or most Uni cities
Shut the Hell up 'eric' you disgusting ignorant feminist pig
When I was in elementary school a young lady threatened to beat me up over something that happened during a dodge ball game. I honestly don't remember what it was. But, I can say I was truly bothered by this. I thought if I were to get beat up by a girl, I would look like a complete wuss. However, if I beat her up, I would look equally bad. When I got home I told my mother what had happened and asked her what I should do. She told me that I should NEVER hit a lady. But any girl who would be willing to ball up her fist and strike me was no lady. lol Luckily, the fight never took place. :)
I was taught more or less the same by my mother, never hit a woman but you damn sure better not let a woman get the last hit.
A woman can hit me all she wants and I'm gonna laugh in her face unless it's like Rhonda Rousey or a trained female assassin. Fellas please play it cool in these situations. It's a lot like play fighting with children and your goal should be to never hurt them physically.
Sure there is some remote chance of her seriously injuring you if you're not careful so be careful, be very careful.
The blocking techniques taught in Krav Maga are very effective you just do not combine them with counter strikes. The punch absorption techniques taught in Systema are another option but I find that simple deflection techniques, like not allowing their punches to land squarely by using subtle dodging maneuvers are more than adequate when dealing with a physically weaker opponent.
A little jujitsu is also fun to do, just use their energy and redirect it harmlessly away from yourself. Wrestling them to the ground and pinning them is also easily accomplished but I think best used as a last resort say if your attacker is relentless and is possibly going to hurt themselves otherwise.
If your intention is to do no harm great unseen forces are marshalled to assist you in your efforts as they are aligned with the Will of God. Why On Earth would you seek to harm another individual? In the higher spheres of life it is unthinkable as our oneness is fully understood and harming another is seen, truly, as harming oneself.
On the same topic if a woman hits me it is still an assault and I can see no reason why she would not be charged and convicted of this crime. The law does not define assault as a man who physically assaults someone it is any person who commits the violent act on another person. Women who commit violent assaults need to be charged and convicted period. All are equal in the eyes of justice that is why she is depicted as being blindfolded. I cannot for the life of me see why so many do not consider that when a woman hits a man it is not committing assault. I wouldn't be ashamed in the least testifying in court against a violent woman who assaulted me wether or not she was able to do great bodily harm to me as the next person, man or woman, who is the target of her uncontrolled violent outbursts may not be so lucky.
As I said earlier and I cannot stress this enough, great care is needed as every situation and every person is different. Please, if you are in this situation, call on your higher guides to assist you in finding peaceful solutions and if conflict is unavoidable ask for assistance in doing no harm to anyone and yet coming out smelling like roses yourself. I know from many personal experiences how effective this is otherwise I would not have taken the time to write this lengthy post. And remember to use the power of your words. As I matured I found that 99% of fights were misunderstandings and that physical confrontations are easily avoided if you will simply seek to do so through words and understanding. In the remaining 1% ask for God's protection and act out of love and compassion not anger for what comes around always goes around. God bless the whole world y'all.
Nice advice
Ecrir Twy'Lar when I was in the 5th grade, I had a female bully who would chase me. I told my mom. Going to a private religious school, and my mom being a Pastor, she told me if I need to, hit back.
She told the school and the school told my mom if I did hit back I would be expelled. My mom didn’t care. I probably wouldn’t have done it, I’m too nice and respect others too much. But I was grateful to have the freedom by my mom to protect myself.
Yeah, report her. I take all my education from the Internet and movies, and it worked great for the aristocrat in the slums when he got syphilis-riddled Anne Hathaway put in a hospital jail in the Les Miserables movie starring Wolverine and Gladiator.
In all seriousness, though, file a complaint with the police. It really is the right thing to do. Most cops see this crap daily and unlike Gladiator do have a pretty good sense of what is bullshit and what is real. You might have to suffer a chuckle from them, but the majority of police that I have met in my life are good men. There are so real rotten tomatoes out there as well, but chances are where I live that the cops you encounter are good men and some women, with a sprinkling of the couple to avoid or leave a complaint with their suggestions box.
Of course, it's all academic for me, as I've never been hit by anyone since 4th grade. And I can drink now. Legally.
Strangely, it's reassuring to know that we here in the US are not the only ones struggling with feminism. Karen is an amazing intellect and we need more voices of sanity like her.
24:40 she walked up there thinking she was going to lay down some knowledge but just looked ignorant. She lost her cool really fast
My word Karen is so bright.
Give this woman a medal, she's of an insane intellect & knowledge. Love her
I really like Karen. She is so level headed, and to fight for equality from the side, not of women, but for men, takes some guts and Kahone’s.
This was a terrific question and answer session. Karen Straughan was as brilliant as usual, and also as fascinating to listen to. The time just flew by.
As a straight white male atheist, I feel like I'm being stabbed by hundreds of people every time I go on the Internet XD
Badregase
LOL
I sell air as a straight non white christian conservative, I accept you as my equal.
Speaking of the gap in sentencing men vs. women in the U.S. I have a personal story. I'm a male nurse, and was working in an area where I was the only male, and one of the few white people. The first day I worked it the operating room I was eating lunch a woman who was going to be the first woman executed in Texas in decades said, "I didn't do it!" A black female in the break area said, "Look, she said she didn't do it!" I made an inflammatory comment, "You know what the problem is? Not enough women are being executed!" My point was that there was no problem with men being executed for murder, but a woman being executed- are you kidding me?" I was treated like crap for months. Much later the biggest, baddest black female nurse said to me, "I know we gave you a hard time back then."
dayummmmmm!!!!! dontcha just love how clueless hipster feminists are like a deer in headlights when their ramblings are countered with facts! well done, karen!
Cake face beanie just got fucked before she even had a chance to get wet. THATS rape culture!
No, I don´t like her being the symptom of this conflict at all. How could I without somehow enjoying the conflict/division in the first place...
Should have told that 8 yo girl she was fat she'd feel that for years
LMAO. That gave me a good laugh. I forgot a woman's weakness is words.
What 8 year old girl? timestamp?
lol - now that's funny. still lol
looool
HAHAHAHAA, nice one Jevon! :-D
The men asking questions are so polite.... the women, not so much.
AHAHHAA! yes! Their panties are in a bunch because a woman doesn't support their great want and so called need for a matriarchy and attempts to make women superior ( not equal as they try to mask it) ((': hilarious, at least I think so.
Jake Preston The female who was a fan of Karen I think was very polite. However obviously the women involved in this are against the argument so they aren't going to be the nicest xD
Jake Preston right
5 years late but Karen i aspire to be as dignified as you and factual as you.
Thanks for being so clear and concise and allowing everyone to have their say.
You're a brilliant person, and there are very few of them around.
any quota system to get women into a male's skill set workplace generally involves lowering the standards, which at the minimum seriously undermines the financial sheet and demoralizes the majority males all the way to significant weakening the military effectness of combat units.
So true
"any quota system to get women into a male's skill set workplace generally involves lowering the standards"
This is also the case the other way around, but I absolutely agree
@@Grievance87 Curious. Can you name a vocation where the standards have to be lowered for men?
An example of an issue that are not men's specific issue... being claimed that Cancer is one of them... I understand what she meant, and it is true if it were certain cancers like lung cancer or brain cancer etc. But the level of focus and attention on Breast Cancer vs. the level of focus and attention on Testicular Cancer demonstrates the empathy gap as well.
"Men don't get catcalled"
Not sure if it counts, but my boyfriend was often chased by girls when he was in high school and he wasn't even interested in them. He was often asked out by girls. He's a good looking, handsome guy, but also a Christian who wanted to wait till he was older to date. He first started dating me when he was 19 in college and me 18 in college. My point? Men do get catcalled, not just women. I get catcalled sometimes, too, but I don't blame all men for it. I get upset for a minute, then move on with life right after.
In my country, it is a criminal offence to catcall women (not men)
Im thankful that this wonderful woman is breaking the path for other women to stand up and speak their minds. Sadly in this day and age if you are a man you are hated. If you are a white man you are despised. It's scary these days if you are a woman but not a feminist. If you are a woman who see's what men are up against. Most men want equality for women. But most women want to take away from men what makes them men. That is sad. I wonder where the world will be in 20 short years. If there will be a world in twenty short years.
I heard about a young man who was being abused by his girlfriend. He is afraid to call the police for fear she lies and he ends up in jail. I know he is right.
"The straight white male is the only person left in society to hate."I love this quote and I'm glad it was a woman who supports Men's rights who recognizes this injustice.
That girls voice at the 25 minute mark... I can here something in it... Is it fear?
Probably fear of public speaking leading to an adrenaline surge. That and her very emotional connection to her argument. She does not realise that the kind of people who attend these kind of events are her ally.
Elijah Edwards It's just anxiety.
It's nerves because she has never actually had someone disagree with her before and it scares her.
The job market will eat her alive when she finishes school.
@T3t4nu5 you think she will finish school? The real world is no safe space and I think she will scurry back to her echo chamber.
Resentment. It's resentment.
Are men obsolete? Does a car rolling down hill still need an engine? What a stupid thing to even consider.
***** I got that... I was simply stating my reaction to the idea...
It would still need working brakes
and that's feminism for you, a bunch of twats rolling down a hil in a car without an engine
*and no brakes*
Grab the popcorn peeps, this is going to be a better one than you'll ever see in Nascar!!!
=)
The little girl smacking the boy on the head in the playground turns into the grown woman beating and abusing him in adult life knowing that society is built to believe the woman and punish the man.
And for us to assume women would NEVER be opportunistic or coniving like that, is to be completely ignorant of human nature.
The sister who cares about her brothers from other mothers so to speak. Bravo. Just one person or one word from her could've saved some boy so much pain. Bless her big tine.
"Ahh, I don't know about that; being skeptical is not rape apology. [with follow up discussion]" What a free spirit Karen is. I love this sort of person.
[further...] The suggestion to use "egalitarian" or "humanist" instead of "feminist" is a great suggestion (although I'd suggest that egalitarian has been poisoned more than humanist, due to equality of outcome being mixed in).
Right? Right. Right! Right, RIGHT!? Right. Right? Right! Right. Right... Right?
+Boban Bobanisivoje Oh my fucking god I'm halfway through and barely noticed... Now I'm counting every "right."
raaggghh! I read this 2:29 in & 'right' is now 'RIGHT'.
Thank You! lol
It's better than saying um or like at every interval. Professionals use it as a segway.
right!!!!!
It's actually an engaging comment to say right with a? in the way she speaks and engages those shes speaking to and with the guests.
Right. 👌👌👌 she is brilliant.
I'm sure you could speak and engage others better . Hmmm.🤔🙄🙄🙄
i was bullied by a girl as a small child. spitting, pushing, punching, etc. my mom told me to fight back, i did, and when the girl's mom came to our door, my mom cussed her out and told her what was what. the girl's mom spanked her ass and i never heard anymore about it.
Karen , Thanx for being awesome!!!
During slavery many women fought to keep from freezing slaves and that's in our history not to mention women's rights many women didn't want rights because that meant that they would have a lot more responsibility and a many women didn't want that they like how things were they like just being the caregiver or the charity person by their husbands made all the money and they kept the how they like that they didn't want to change it but nobody ever talks about that and it's in our history
It's a damn shame that clips of the girl getting rekt has more views than the actual source material. This needs to be seen more.
Such is the way this world "works". An inquisitive person would try to look for the source of that little video, to know the context in which that situation occurred... given the numbers between that video and this one, it becomes pretty aparent why so many people gets easily manipulated by emotions. Why so few people try to understand the facts.
Karen Straughan for president
yes!
Gene Barker I would legitimately vote for her.
Karen straughan is one of the most influential and inspirational person I have ever seen, so I agree with you.
#karenstraughan4prez
Student, I'd vote for her.
Student
Prime minister, she’s Canadian!
8:40 is definitely a highlight "The student union values freedom of expression".. a pause.. EVERYONE laughs. That's the best response
According to the CDC’s statistics - estimates based on more than 18,000 telephone-survey responses in the United States - roughly 5,365,000 men had been victims of intimate partner physical violence in the previous 12 months, compared with 4,741,000 women. By the study’s definition, physical violence includes slapping, pushing, and shoving.
More severe threats like being beaten, burned, choked, kicked, slammed with a heavy object, or hit with a fist were also tracked. Roughly 40 percent of the victims of severe physical violence were men. The CDC repeated the survey in 2011, the results of which were published in 2014, and found almost identical numbers - with the percentage of male severe physical violence victims slightly rising. Source: www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/the-number-of-male-domestic-1284479771263030.html
Straughan says, "Right."
Paglia says, "Okay."
Sommers adds a quiet laugh every now and again.
Awesome!
my mom literally told me when i was younger that "you might go to prison and ill bail you out, but if ANYONE hits you, hit them back. Even though legally, defending yourself against a girl is illegal."
Karen is 10/10.
Thanks Karen, you have my respect. This planet needs more like you. Hope you have a long happy life. You nailed it. Good person, nice lady.
I agree with the response to the first question, engaging ideological feminists about men's rights issues makes about as much sense as preaching economics to a communist, impossible.
she's so beautiful and smart. loved every word she said and how she said it. its really amazing to see her handle questions so smoothly, so cool. shes so skillful, and honest, upfront. a really virtueous character.
What an eyeopener. Thank You Karen,
Men don't realize that they have worth. I was brought up in the 50's ....MEN DON'T CRY....Men don't complain.. Just keep working and concentrate on why you are a worker...Block out the emotional stuff. Your opinion is refreshing.
"Hillary Clinton, who's going to likely be the next president..." at 55:20
Ha
Well, she was right to expect that. It's like, hitting on a hard 18 in blackjack. MAYBE the dealer's got a 19 and the next card is a 2. It doesn't matter who you WANTED to win. I didn't think Trump could win because I seriously thought 80% of women would vote for Hillary and that men would be more evenly divided.
@@medexamtoolscom yeah that was surprising. Hillary was so unlikable that she couldn't even get the vagina vote.
Love Karen! She speaks for me!!!! And has my up most respect. You want a female roll model she's up there with some of the best for me.
Thank you! This is much needed. Men need protection now.
I listened to the whole thing, loved it.
This was absolutely fantastic. Keep it up Karen!
I love how both Karen and Jordan Peterson are from Alberta. Makes me proud to be an Albertan.
I remember when I was in kindergarten I was on the swing set, and the swing next to me was broken with the chain on the ground. A girl in my class walked up and grabbed the chain I stopped and asked her what she was doing. She then proceeded to hit me in the face with the chain, it cut my face and broke my glasses. I started crying and the teacher came running and, before I could even calm down and say what happened the girl came up with the lie that I was being mean to her and she hit me because of that. I was the one who was punished. My parents had to spend a couple hundred dollars to replace my glasses and I was bullied for a period of time because a girl beat me up. But I just learned a year ago she was arrested and is on trial for orchestrating multiple murders, She manipulation of her boyfriend into committing them by acting as though these others were trying to harm her. Then when the police started closing in hired a gang member to kill her boyfriend. I wasn't the only boy she did things to at school over the years. but she always played victim so got away with it until she finally got to the point of murder.
Jaysus.
24:42 oh that little smirk was priceless ;D
"good! a feeble mind to crush" hahaha
great video , Love Karen !
I really really like this woman.
If a women has courage to hit a man, she has also courage to get hit back, this is something I am teaching my boys, if girl hits you hit her back with your full possible power you've got!
Taumantis I hope dor their sake that they never have to defend themselves from a violent woman as they will not be treayed kindly by society at large.
Full power isn't necessary, trust me. I don't want them killing someone, God forbid they ever get hit by a girl.
I come back to this video every few months or so, since I've found it soon after it was released. I get something new out of it every time, as I learn more about the issues mentioned in the video. 11/10. Will watch again.
This is incredible content... I'm so glad someone led me here!
If it were not for technology, this whole situation would not exist.
The black shirt girl with the question certainly didn't approach her question in the best way possible BUT you guys should have let Karen answer the damn question. Ganging up on someone will make anyone crack. Karen coulda shut her up just as easy as an entire fucking crowd giving her a hard time.
Tru
Feminist alert
Then how come when there is 1 MRA vs 3-4 feminists on a TV panel, he holds his ground and owns them all?
+Boarky I thought Karen did a good job w/ the girl w/ the striped shirt, who called herself a feminist, but really wasn't. I think it's almost like the trendy, obligatory wagon to jump on, and youth like that don't realize where that ride is taking them.
it would be kinda naive to believe that a crowd could keep it cool when she was so ridiculous
Please, have someone subtitle these videos to Spanish. If there was a channel with these videos of Karen Straughan, Jordan Peterson, Milo, etc. subtitled in Spanish, they would win many visits and subscribers, as there are many people who do not speak English, or who speak little English, but who are very interested in these issues and especially in what these people say. My total support for them.
I love you Karen!
(Translated with google translate)
Scalpelo 92
Bravo! Oh. That's not Spanish. But good point.
my mum always told my sister and myself that we should always stick up for ourselves, but if we ever hit a boy, we needed to be prepared to get hit back. fair is fair.
Title of this video "Are Men Obsolete" ... well if you have a tribe that was about to be invaded by a group of strong male warriors in large number, even the strongest women of that tribe would crap her pants and run to the men of that tribe for protection. This whole movement is absurd.
35:28 _"As a man of African descent and a teacher, I have experienced the negative effects of the emasculation process; it has been going on ever since we came off the slave ships. But now that that has affected white males it has become an issue. How does race play a role in your movement and how do you address the issue of privilege when you discuss men's issues?"_
This question annoys me.
I think this is a misrepresentation of the African American community. Black family cohesion and income were a good as whites until the introduction of welfare between 1930 and 1950, at which point the increase of households led by mothers was similar to that of whites. The introduction of No-fault divorce in 1970 merely accelerated the trend for both blacks and whites.
I think the African American community were hit by a double whammy: Feminism _and_ black rights. Both organisations were infiltrated by Communists with the expressed intent of sewing discord and disenfranchisement, hence the Black Panther's well known connection with the Communist party.
I think pulling the slavery card was pretty low. The questioner did not _come off the slave ships_ and has no experience of slavery and in implying that white people didn't give a shit about men's rights until it affected whites begs the question: if it is true that black communities suffered the issues discussed before whites then where were the black MRAs? He's implying that it is the white's responsibility to initiate movements within the black community. By asking, _"How does race play a role in your movement"_ he is using a feminist tactic of demanding that everyone tip-toe around his racial sensitivities.
I also think that the history of slavery has been misrepresented. Africans were heavily involved in black slavery as slave traders because whites had insufficient immunities to survive more than a few months in Africa. It was a white movement that culminated in the official abolition of slavery and whites that enforced it by intercepting slave ships. I take no credit for this, being coincidentally white, and I accept no blame for the actions of coincidentally white people over two centuries ago.
When a particular personal, cultural or racial tragedy is inappropriately inserted into conversations I always suspect that requests for special dispensation or compensation are not far behind.
+Valelacerte Fabulous.
The woman speaking at 40:44 that speaks about not harming anyone; I'm skeptical. The state has a monopoly on power, so if the state gives her an unfair advantage in a situation, there's a very good chance she's merely outsourcing the violence. For example, if she gets married then divorced, the state will very likely take away her husband's assets. If he refuses, she will call upon the state's capability of violence (agents with guns, throwing him in a metal cage, etc.) to enforce her will against her husband. So she is violent, she just doesn't want to get her hands dirty.
Enjoy feminism? Thank all men. Feminism would not exist without the support of men.
Take a shot everytime you hear "Right"
Or 'There you go'.
"Yeah, no."
Aickavon the Techpriest I had to pause the video and buy more booze.
not enough alcohol in the world
"Democracy is the worst system, except for all the others."
allolp
Most brilliant crazy thing never heard.
I came up blue collar typical family. Worked in concrete and steel, 2 yrs Army, at 24 laid off with wife and a kid on the way. Found a job in nursing and had women directing me. Later became RN. I'll tell you this, those ladies were wonderful to work under and with.
A very brave & wise Woman.