Sounds like the trucking industry has become WAY to over micromanaged , just causes way to much extra unnecessary stress on what is already stressful enough. It's ridiculous how the general population has become "ok" with every move we make being scrutinized.
We do not disagree. Some regulation is good to keep the bad players out, but a lot of drivers feel micromanaged now and that is frustrating. Thanks for the comment!
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So accident does count as an excuse but not traffic congestion? Also, I heard, adverse driving conditions only count if it is announced on the national weather warnings broadcasting video or audio but not because the driver thinks it is too dangerous to drive. Is that correct to say?
Traffic congestion in a populated area that could reasonably be expected to have congestion doesn't count. I can't confirm on the adverse driving conditions exemption. What I will say is that we advise only using it if it is a freak thing not something that could reasonably be in a forecast or expected. Our safety director says, "It is for a freak snowstorm in July not a snowstorm in January."
Can I continue to drive if I still have driving hours, but I am over the 14 hours due to detention at the customer? It shows negative time on screen after the 14 hours. I heard I can. I would just need to not go beyond the driving time and take the second split sleeper berth break added to the detention hours spent at the customer to satisfy the 10 hours total either off duty or sleeper berth. Longer break minimum of 7 hours in sleeper only + 3 hours either sleeper or off Duty or the smaller break has to be minimum of 2 hours either in sleeper or off Duty + 8 hours in sleeper only. Obvious if detention took 4hours at customer I can count it as the smaller break hours as 3 hours then just take 7 hours in sleeper later on to satisfy 10 hours. What's right?
Great question! What you are saying about the hours is correct. I would check with your safety director. We don't use PeopleNet anymore so I can't speak to how the newest version responds to split sleeper berths. But you *should* be able to extend your day by at least a little bit in many cases. Sorry I couldn't be more help!
Does the dot violation come from your company. Or is it from the state that violates you. I try'd to stop my 14 hour clock by going off duty and on PC but it kept running and I got a violation. Who checks it
Any time you go over your 14-hour clock, you violate the DOT regs. You can get a ticket for the violation a few ways; during a normal traffic stop or DOT inspection at a scale, or during an FMCSA audit of your company's safety files. If the second happens, the FMCSA inspector can go back 6 months to issue violations to you and your company. Separately, your company may internally penalize you when they see you've violated the regulations because it puts them at risk of violations if they are audited. Hope that makes sense!
As far as the system goes, I'm not certain. We switched away from PeopleNet to a different system. But over is over, so I would imagine the system behaves in much the same way.
Quick question so im a delivery driver i got 3 hours and 55 min left in my clock so i drive to my hotel its around 2hours and 30 min and theres a truck inspection on my way luckily its close when i pass by but if its open i have to go in so by that i wouldnt make it to my hotel wat happen if i get pull over later with 00 00 on my clock
These things are hard to judge because it depends on the feelings of the DOT officer. You shouldn't drive over your clock if you can help it. You should go to the next safe haven. If you were our driver, we would encourage you to find the next safe spot to pull off into a truck stop and stay the night. But we have sleeper bunks, so it is a little different.
You get assigned that time back to you. If you reject it, a Health and Safety officer, who is held accountable by LAW has to contact you and have a little chat / warning ⚠️
Short answer: Don't do it. Unidentified driving time is listed on the report that an officer receives should you be pulled over. So they will ask you about it and ask why you didn't claim the time. Additionally, your company can be audited for up to 6 months on any and all driver logs. If the FMCSA finds unidentified driving time like this that you did not claim (and your company did not assign to someone else), then there will be hefty fines assessed.
If you forget to sign off it isn't a big deal unless someone moves your truck. It should automatically pick up that you've stopped driving and put you into On Duty after five minutes. Then when you get back into the truck you can move that time to Off Duty. But if someone moves your truck while you are logged in, you WILL be stuck with that drive time.
on duty time could be changed. logs can be changed. drive time can never be changed so if you logged in and truck moves then you lose drive time and violate if it was over
@brendamoreno7884 not that bad. It will always come down to the dot officer you get and if its one time.. it never hurt that if you go over 5 min. You stay where your 10 hr off for 5min extra to compensate. Little bit of explanation and notation you show you tried and it should be fine. Again up to dot /officer you're dealing with .. some of them would charge their own mothers
Sounds like the trucking industry has become WAY to over micromanaged , just causes way to much extra unnecessary stress on what is already stressful enough. It's ridiculous how the general population has become "ok" with every move we make being scrutinized.
We do not disagree. Some regulation is good to keep the bad players out, but a lot of drivers feel micromanaged now and that is frustrating. Thanks for the comment!
Especially while treason as traitors, fraudulently installed puppets whose strings are being pulled from the shadows commit all kinds of crimes. Treasonous 😮😢😡and otherwise
Thank you for the vital information.
Glad it helped!
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So accident does count as an excuse but not traffic congestion? Also, I heard, adverse driving conditions only count if it is announced on the national weather warnings broadcasting video or audio but not because the driver thinks it is too dangerous to drive. Is that correct to say?
Traffic congestion in a populated area that could reasonably be expected to have congestion doesn't count. I can't confirm on the adverse driving conditions exemption. What I will say is that we advise only using it if it is a freak thing not something that could reasonably be in a forecast or expected. Our safety director says, "It is for a freak snowstorm in July not a snowstorm in January."
Very helpful thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Can I continue to drive if I still have driving hours, but I am over the 14 hours due to detention at the customer? It shows negative time on screen after the 14 hours. I heard I can. I would just need to not go beyond the driving time and take the second split sleeper berth break added to the detention hours spent at the customer to satisfy the 10 hours total either off duty or sleeper berth. Longer break minimum of 7 hours in sleeper only + 3 hours either sleeper or off Duty or the smaller break has to be minimum of 2 hours either in sleeper or off Duty + 8 hours in sleeper only. Obvious if detention took 4hours at customer I can count it as the smaller break hours as 3 hours then just take 7 hours in sleeper later on to satisfy 10 hours. What's right?
Great question! What you are saying about the hours is correct. I would check with your safety director. We don't use PeopleNet anymore so I can't speak to how the newest version responds to split sleeper berths. But you *should* be able to extend your day by at least a little bit in many cases. Sorry I couldn't be more help!
Does the dot violation come from your company. Or is it from the state that violates you. I try'd to stop my 14 hour clock by going off duty and on PC but it kept running and I got a violation. Who checks it
Any time you go over your 14-hour clock, you violate the DOT regs. You can get a ticket for the violation a few ways; during a normal traffic stop or DOT inspection at a scale, or during an FMCSA audit of your company's safety files. If the second happens, the FMCSA inspector can go back 6 months to issue violations to you and your company. Separately, your company may internally penalize you when they see you've violated the regulations because it puts them at risk of violations if they are audited. Hope that makes sense!
@drivekandj thank you for the info 🙏
So what happens if you are in a situation where you go over about 5 minutes after you get an extension?
As far as the system goes, I'm not certain. We switched away from PeopleNet to a different system. But over is over, so I would imagine the system behaves in much the same way.
Quick question so im a delivery driver i got 3 hours and 55 min left in my clock so i drive to my hotel its around 2hours and 30 min and theres a truck inspection on my way luckily its close when i pass by but if its open i have to go in so by that i wouldnt make it to my hotel wat happen if i get pull over later with 00 00 on my clock
These things are hard to judge because it depends on the feelings of the DOT officer. You shouldn't drive over your clock if you can help it. You should go to the next safe haven. If you were our driver, we would encourage you to find the next safe spot to pull off into a truck stop and stay the night. But we have sleeper bunks, so it is a little different.
Usr pc thats one of its uses
Do this at your own risk. We have heard from our friends at the SD DOT that they have been encouraged to crack down on PC use!
What happens if you drive without login in after no drive time left
You get assigned that time back to you. If you reject it, a Health and Safety officer, who is held accountable by LAW has to contact you and have a little chat / warning ⚠️
Short answer: Don't do it. Unidentified driving time is listed on the report that an officer receives should you be pulled over. So they will ask you about it and ask why you didn't claim the time. Additionally, your company can be audited for up to 6 months on any and all driver logs. If the FMCSA finds unidentified driving time like this that you did not claim (and your company did not assign to someone else), then there will be hefty fines assessed.
What happens if you just forgot to sign off
If you forget to sign off it isn't a big deal unless someone moves your truck. It should automatically pick up that you've stopped driving and put you into On Duty after five minutes. Then when you get back into the truck you can move that time to Off Duty. But if someone moves your truck while you are logged in, you WILL be stuck with that drive time.
on duty time could be changed. logs can be changed. drive time can never be changed so if you logged in and truck moves then you lose drive time and violate if it was over
We are looking for a parking space maybe 5 seconds over the clock. My husband is making a huge deal out it ! Is that bad. ???
@thisperson6655 and "Changed" is shown on the officers screen ..
@brendamoreno7884 not that bad. It will always come down to the dot officer you get and if its one time.. it never hurt that if you go over 5 min. You stay where your 10 hr off for 5min extra to compensate. Little bit of explanation and notation you show you tried and it should be fine. Again up to dot /officer you're dealing with .. some of them would charge their own mothers
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