The chemistry with these two is great. They're both funny. She lets Henry ramble a good long time, and comes in with perfectly relevant questions to stoke the fire. Bravo
It's difficult for me to express in words how important Black Flag's "My War" album was to me growing up. It was the record that introduced me to punk rock. It was significant to me as moody, depressed teenage outcast because it was the record that took me away from escapist music and introduced me to music which actually spoke to my state of mind. Before "My War" I had been listening to stuff like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Deep Purple. Aggressive music, yes, but with Dungeons and Dragons type lyrics or songs about hot cars and/or girls which were not a part of my life. It wasn't until I heard "you say that you're my friend but you're ONE OF THEM" that I felt like there was someone else in the world who understood what I was feeling. "My War" presents no positive solutions, but is ultimately positive because as a statement it says "there is someone else out there just as fucked up as you"; and as a misfit teenager sometimes that's all you really need. My life has gone through so many changes since those days, but "My War" is still my go-to record for when I feel like it's me vs THE WORLD. If ever a single record LITERALLY saved my life, it was certainly this one. I own a stupid amount of records. But if I could only keep one, it would be "My War". Like a dear friend, it's always been there for me. In good times, but more importantly in bad.
'My War' wasn't the very first punk tune I'd ever heard, but it WAS the song that really made me sit up and take notice of punk. 'My War' was the first punk record that I went out and bought. I wish those 82 demos were properly mixed down. The performances were absolutely brutal.
The "Mm/y War!" mystery solved. It was an engineering error, two separate takes, cut and taped together a half a second behind the other, type thing. Thanks Henry & Heidi!
Excellent podcast. Man...this brought back a lot of memories. Saw Flag about 10 times between 1982 and 1986. It was clear the exercise routine was working because Henry always delivered. I remember a show at the Fireman's Hall in Ft. Lauderdale. It was about 120 degrees inside and it was killing Bob Mould of Husker Du. He did his best but quit a little early...I think the humidity and heat were too much. Not Henry! He got up there and just gave 120%. But, thinking back, he always gave it all and this podcast made me appreciate the effort even more. Thanks!
I've been loving these podcasts. I wanted to listen to it for yeeeears, but never had the time, until now. Thank you for all the great stories and moments, you folks are the cat's pijamas. I only have this one (plus the last three) to go. Hopefully Henry & Heidi will be able to make some space in their schedules to bring these back, cuz thy're a great listen. Greetings from Colombia 👋💛💙❤
A lot of people would have run away in tears from Rollins' aggression and bullying in that interview, but to his credit that kid stands there and takes it, and stands his ground throughout Rollins' assault.
Henry, I don't have the words for how much you have inspired me over the many years and helped me get through some of the toughest times in my life. Thank you! I hope one day I will reach a place where I am able to laugh and be as care free as you seem in these podcasts. I'm still fighting my war (metaphorically speaking).
My War was the first punk album I ever bought as a teen. To this day it remains one of my favorite albums! It’s by far Black Flag’s finest work. Henry absolutely crushed it on every track. At one point, at around 3:15 of the song My War, it sounds like Henry totally went totally bonkers and had a break from reality...I sometimes imagine they had to stop recording at that point until he could put all the pieces back together, ha ha!
Hank is proof that hard work, self discipline, integrity, and focus will make you a success. I've watched him go from being a fucking maniacs to being a Naplolean Hill offspring. Good job, Hank- you deserve it.
Raw energy. I love this guy so much. Henry is a wolf among sheep; not because he has teeth, not because he was unafraid to show them, but because he's grown so much as a person, yet still remembers who he is. I think he's a bit too modest when it comes to how much he contributed to My War. I honestly don't think it would have been as intense without him; it may have been a team effort, but it's his voice people hear when they're moments away from making a life changing decision. ...Such as hitting Play.
I want to say that I am impressed as well, but in a way, I am not surprised. Whatever music is brought up, Henry seems to have 100x more knowledge than anyone else.
Noice, I like the Black Flag 1982 demos cuz they’re heavy as fudge. Those versions of songs such as My War, What Can You Believe?, Yes I Know, Modern Man, Slip It In, and others are amazing. The lineup of Henry Rollins (on Vocals), Greg Ginn (on Lead Guitar) and Dez Cadena (on Rhythm Guitar) Chuck Dukowski (on Bass Guitar), and Chuck Biscuits (on Drums) is so damn awesome. After Biscuits, Bill Stevenson (the replacement from the Descendants) is a good drummer as well. The lineup of the 4 guys and Bill is cool as well. My War is a great album. Other than that, cool:).
Living in Vermont and 21 yrs old in 1984 , I had no idea of the divide among punks of the Sabbath-y sound of Side 2. I loved it all. I just took a listen and the ice machine is at the end of Three Nights, not Scream. Also, the 2 "my war"s is hardly noticeable, I'm not surprised no one ever mentioned to Rollins.
Mr. Rollins, with all due respect, for the love of god take some credit for My War. Maybe you didn't write it but without the power and rage of you and your voice, the record wouldn't be what it is now.
Amazing podcast I love listening to these. And for those out there that like criticize Henry based on one damn video clip of a bad moment my question to you people is don't you ever have bad days? Haven't you ever made a mistake haven't you ever maybe went off on somebody that you didn't mean to because you were so fatigued you can't see straight? Nobody saying that it's okay but it has been 40 some years. How about we focus on who he is now period seems like a pretty awesome guy love you Henry better fan forever warts-and-all I will remain a fan. Keep up the good work XOXO
I tried a Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz thing where I started the My War album about a second after Heidi brings up the topic and I shit you not, Nothing Left Inside started when the discussion moved to Side 2.
Henry seems to have forgotten that Black Flag were playing the stuff from MY WAR side 2 at their live shows through 1982 and 1983, so punks were getting their minds blown by that material even before the album MY WAR came out.
@@joyofsox Yeah, I've read that it annoyed some people that they would play so much unfamiliar material. But getting new songs broken in through live performance is a great way of getting them ready to record, and Husker Du always worked fast in the studio.
A lot of mysteries solved here. My War was always an oddly produced record--very muffled and bottom heavy. And those weird ambient noises on "side 2" have now been solved. Also I always thought the "my-y war" part was Rollins coming in late on the vocal overdub, now I know. I wish he would've done this for every BF album he sang on. Maybe My War is the only one with an interesting story as it was their "comeback" album and also their new sound/line-up.
Henry, I doubt you read comments as you turned them off for all of the episodes after this. As a long time fan, but as a brand new listener to these podcasts, I'm just wondering when you're planning on doing more of these? I just want to say that I greatly enjoyed this, and not even because My War is one of my favorite records of all time.
that Fanzine kid clip, and the dude getting punched out clip....i never thought they were over-the-top or anything. Henry mighta gone a little harsh on him, but it doesn't matter if that kid was 16, or 20. if he wanted to be in that line of work he was not prepared, and that's on him. Bill Burr puts people like that to task all the time, and people eat it up! Bill Hicks would do it too. sure Henry was on the harsh side, but outside of the amazing Penelope Spheeris (Decline of Western Civilization) A LOT of reporters at the time just didn't do their research, and didn't care, and it showed that they were not giving the same respect to artists like Iggy Pop and Lee Ving as they were to artists like Michael Jackson and Bono. i don't think that clip would've happened now. not just Henry losing that intensity or anything, but i mean compare that Fanzine kid to Sean Evans on Hot Ones. it doesn't matter to him if it's Beyonce, or Kyrie Irving, or Henry, or some youtube loser, he's going into that interview ready walk his guest through stupid hot wings, and go in for the deep dive questions, maintaining composure all the way through. journalism in the 21st century has elevated to where that Fanzine shit doesn't really happen. how many times do you see that Newsroom clip? certainly no His Girl Friday.
I too have the HEAT = BARF syndrome Heidi. It is the bane of my existence. The trick I use when no AC is putting frozen to icy bottles of water in my pits. It cools the blood. BTW, be careful, too much can put you in to shock. Stay cool.
the songs on my war are fantastic, the production is too subdued and muted for the music., its clear, yeah, bit the sounds lacks the dynamics of the music and the performances. the explosive songs should sound explosive and the heavy songs should sound heavy, but they dont.
MY WAR was a great album, as far as lyrics and music, but Spot fucking buried everything. The engineering on it was terrible, sounded like shit. But the song writing was awesome
46:08
Wow, he actually addresses the interview he did with that kid! Always wondered what he thought of that.
Thanks! Came looking for this.
The chemistry with these two is great. They're both funny. She lets Henry ramble a good long time, and comes in with perfectly relevant questions to stoke the fire. Bravo
It's difficult for me to express in words how important Black Flag's "My War" album was to me growing up. It was the record that introduced me to punk rock. It was significant to me as moody, depressed teenage outcast because it was the record that took me away from escapist music and introduced me to music which actually spoke to my state of mind. Before "My War" I had been listening to stuff like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Deep Purple. Aggressive music, yes, but with Dungeons and Dragons type lyrics or songs about hot cars and/or girls which were not a part of my life. It wasn't until I heard "you say that you're my friend but you're ONE OF THEM" that I felt like there was someone else in the world who understood what I was feeling. "My War" presents no positive solutions, but is ultimately positive because as a statement it says "there is someone else out there just as fucked up as you"; and as a misfit teenager sometimes that's all you really need.
My life has gone through so many changes since those days, but "My War" is still my go-to record for when I feel like it's me vs THE WORLD. If ever a single record LITERALLY saved my life, it was certainly this one.
I own a stupid amount of records. But if I could only keep one, it would be "My War". Like a dear friend, it's always been there for me. In good times, but more importantly in bad.
Preach
@@BudLightBeerOfStarCommand bro awesome fucking user name lmfao hahah
Same!! My War, along with Collection and Static Age by the Misfits for me.
I just got a new copy recently. I wore mine out in the 80's. Got to see them a few times on last tour
I have a black flag tattoo with two song titles around it. My war is one of them. Love it!
There should be a drinking game for Every time Henry says he’s from the minimum wage working world
I tried that game,now my liver is dead.
F'real
Yeah, i enjoy listening to Henry, but he repeats the same sentences so often. He is no more on minimal wage
I know. Who didn't start out there?
You guys act like that's all he talks about 😂
'My War' wasn't the very first punk tune I'd ever heard, but it WAS the song that really made me sit up and take notice of punk. 'My War' was the first punk record that I went out and bought. I wish those 82 demos were properly mixed down. The performances were absolutely brutal.
The "Mm/y War!" mystery solved. It was an engineering error, two separate takes, cut and taped together a half a second behind the other, type thing. Thanks Henry & Heidi!
Is it really an error though if spot just knew he did it. And he just didn't care. Like he just...did it it seems
AWESOOOOOOME! GREAT STOOOOOORIES! THAAAAAANKS! MY WAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!
I wish he would’ve done more of these during Covid....
Excellent podcast. Man...this brought back a lot of memories. Saw Flag about 10 times between 1982 and 1986. It was clear the exercise routine was working because Henry always delivered. I remember a show at the Fireman's Hall in Ft. Lauderdale. It was about 120 degrees inside and it was killing Bob Mould of Husker Du. He did his best but quit a little early...I think the humidity and heat were too much. Not Henry! He got up there and just gave 120%. But, thinking back, he always gave it all and this podcast made me appreciate the effort even more. Thanks!
Oh man, so glad I discovered this podcast. Keep doing these. :)
It would be awesome to see an episode of your podcast where Henry talks about HR and the Bad Brains. :)
I've been loving these podcasts. I wanted to listen to it for yeeeears, but never had the time, until now. Thank you for all the great stories and moments, you folks are the cat's pijamas. I only have this one (plus the last three) to go. Hopefully Henry & Heidi will be able to make some space in their schedules to bring these back, cuz thy're a great listen. Greetings from Colombia
👋💛💙❤
A lot of people would have run away in tears from Rollins' aggression and bullying in that interview, but to his credit that kid stands there and takes it, and stands his ground throughout Rollins' assault.
Henry, I don't have the words for how much you have inspired me over the many years and helped me get through some of the toughest times in my life. Thank you! I hope one day I will reach a place where I am able to laugh and be as care free as you seem in these podcasts. I'm still fighting my war (metaphorically speaking).
You're welcome.
My War was the first punk album I ever bought as a teen. To this day it remains one of my favorite albums! It’s by far Black Flag’s finest work. Henry absolutely crushed it on every track. At one point, at around 3:15 of the song My War, it sounds like Henry totally went totally bonkers and had a break from reality...I sometimes imagine they had to stop recording at that point until he could put all the pieces back together, ha ha!
Henry we need more ❤
Listening to this while working helps make the day go by so much faster
2024 and your comment still is true
The only regret I have about this podcast is not finding it sooner!!!
LOVE these podcasts. Love your work Heidi! Henry you inspire me.
MY WAR is my favorite album by BLACK FLAG (i love almost everything they've done)
I love all of these. Almost as good as getting to see Rollins do a speaking gig. I got to see the wm3 show in Memphis, but no talk shows yet.
Hank is proof that hard work, self discipline, integrity, and focus will make you a success. I've watched him go from being a fucking maniacs to being a Naplolean Hill offspring. Good job, Hank- you deserve it.
Raw energy. I love this guy so much. Henry is a wolf among sheep; not because he has teeth, not because he was unafraid to show them, but because he's grown so much as a person, yet still remembers who he is.
I think he's a bit too modest when it comes to how much he contributed to My War. I honestly don't think it would have been as intense without him; it may have been a team effort, but it's his voice people hear when they're moments away from making a life changing decision. ...Such as hitting Play.
More podcast please...interesting stuff!
I really miss these podcasts.
Mr. Rollins will you please run for president…pleeeeeaaase????
My favorite album
the second side of my war had like that saint vitus sound when i first heard it and come to find out they were on the same label. Amazing!
Wow, I'm impressed that Henry knew W.A.S.P. was on Capitol records.
I want to say that I am impressed as well, but in a way, I am not surprised. Whatever music is brought up, Henry seems to have 100x more knowledge than anyone else.
Noice, I like the Black Flag 1982 demos cuz they’re heavy as fudge. Those versions of songs such as My War, What Can You Believe?, Yes I Know, Modern Man, Slip It In, and others are amazing. The lineup of Henry Rollins (on Vocals), Greg Ginn (on Lead Guitar) and Dez Cadena (on Rhythm Guitar) Chuck Dukowski (on Bass Guitar), and Chuck Biscuits (on Drums) is so damn awesome. After Biscuits, Bill Stevenson (the replacement from the Descendants) is a good drummer as well. The lineup of the 4 guys and Bill is cool as well. My War is a great album. Other than that, cool:).
Living in Vermont and 21 yrs old in 1984 , I had no idea of the divide among punks of the Sabbath-y sound of Side 2. I loved it all.
I just took a listen and the ice machine is at the end of Three Nights, not Scream.
Also, the 2 "my war"s is hardly noticeable, I'm not surprised no one ever mentioned to Rollins.
Mr. Rollins, with all due respect, for the love of god take some credit for My War. Maybe you didn't write it but without the power and rage of you and your voice, the record wouldn't be what it is now.
Amazing podcast I love listening to these. And for those out there that like criticize Henry based on one damn video clip of a bad moment my question to you people is don't you ever have bad days? Haven't you ever made a mistake haven't you ever maybe went off on somebody that you didn't mean to because you were so fatigued you can't see straight? Nobody saying that it's okay but it has been 40 some years. How about we focus on who he is now period seems like a pretty awesome guy love you Henry better fan forever warts-and-all I will remain a fan. Keep up the good work XOXO
yea I was at Greystone hall show the one with kid enterviewing henry I think that was time a guy put a smoke out on his chest I be pissed too
I'm with Heidi--air conditioning is a for life NECESSITY!!!🤗💕
Henry the Hardcore Bard
Scott Kelly from Neurosis has a set of bars with "My War Side 2" tattooed on the back of his neck.
Right on
I wonder if that's who Henry is describing at 24:14
@@oneskinnyhonky It's possible, but the use of the word "rockstar" to describe the person he's talking about makes me doubt it a bit.
@@etienneblais5915 Upon relistening, I wonder if he was talking about Buzz from The Melvins.
FUUUUUCKING COOOOOOOL! I LOVE NEUROSIS!!!
Watching sooooo very late. To all loved ones: He is still phenomenal 🙏 Henry is in a heavenly place. Bless you all 🙏 Rekha ❤
Keep 'em comin' Hank.
Cool. Thank you for this.
Way Killer! My War! Chuck's kick ass swan song! dig it! (Creepy Crawl the starwood!)
I tried a Pink Floyd/Wizard of Oz thing where I started the My War album about a second after Heidi brings up the topic and I shit you not, Nothing Left Inside started when the discussion moved to Side 2.
FINALLY!
Henry seems to have forgotten that Black Flag were playing the stuff from MY WAR side 2 at their live shows through 1982 and 1983, so punks were getting their minds blown by that material even before the album MY WAR came out.
Husker Du did that also. During the New Day Rising tour, they were already playing most of Flip Your Wig and a few songs from Candy Apple Grey!!
@@joyofsox Yeah, I've read that it annoyed some people that they would play so much unfamiliar material. But getting new songs broken in through live performance is a great way of getting them ready to record, and Husker Du always worked fast in the studio.
Rollins rules
good descriptoipn about the strange isolationish. its got a very clinical, subdued sound.
A lot of mysteries solved here. My War was always an oddly produced record--very muffled and bottom heavy. And those weird ambient noises on "side 2" have now been solved. Also I always thought the "my-y war" part was Rollins coming in late on the vocal overdub, now I know. I wish he would've done this for every BF album he sang on. Maybe My War is the only one with an interesting story as it was their "comeback" album and also their new sound/line-up.
Henry, I doubt you read comments as you turned them off for all of the episodes after this. As a long time fan, but as a brand new listener to these podcasts, I'm just wondering when you're planning on doing more of these? I just want to say that I greatly enjoyed this, and not even because My War is one of my favorite records of all time.
Yaaaasssss!!!! 👏👏👏👏😁
What the hell? I'm subscribed, yet I've not seen this come up in my feed until yesterday.
❤⭐🌠🙌🏽
I don't know what it says about me but... that album is basically the soundtrack to my puberty. 🤔
that Fanzine kid clip, and the dude getting punched out clip....i never thought they were over-the-top or anything. Henry mighta gone a little harsh on him, but it doesn't matter if that kid was 16, or 20. if he wanted to be in that line of work he was not prepared, and that's on him. Bill Burr puts people like that to task all the time, and people eat it up! Bill Hicks would do it too. sure Henry was on the harsh side, but outside of the amazing Penelope Spheeris (Decline of Western Civilization) A LOT of reporters at the time just didn't do their research, and didn't care, and it showed that they were not giving the same respect to artists like Iggy Pop and Lee Ving as they were to artists like Michael Jackson and Bono.
i don't think that clip would've happened now. not just Henry losing that intensity or anything, but i mean compare that Fanzine kid to Sean Evans on Hot Ones. it doesn't matter to him if it's Beyonce, or Kyrie Irving, or Henry, or some youtube loser, he's going into that interview ready walk his guest through stupid hot wings, and go in for the deep dive questions, maintaining composure all the way through. journalism in the 21st century has elevated to where that Fanzine shit doesn't really happen. how many times do you see that Newsroom clip? certainly no His Girl Friday.
Don't count me in for face-swastikas.
Satan for lunch, great stuff
I too have the HEAT = BARF syndrome Heidi. It is the bane of my existence. The trick I use when no AC is putting frozen to icy bottles of water in my pits. It cools the blood.
BTW, be careful, too much can put you in to shock.
Stay cool.
What the hell happened to that young journalist?
He lives in Europe now
@@user-kd2tw6oo7d where can I find more info about him?
B side
THE KID HENRY RIPPED ON, WAS DAVE HEBB, IN DETROIT, AT THE GRAYSTONE.
Fun house or Raw power ?
Young me would say raw power older me would say fun house.
the songs on my war are fantastic, the production is too subdued and muted for the music., its clear, yeah, bit the sounds lacks the dynamics of the music and the performances. the explosive songs should sound explosive and the heavy songs should sound heavy, but they dont.
I'm from Brazil, and would amazing to talk with Henry, pass my views and shit
noice
You're one of them them...my war. It is the word 'them' that got doubled not the word 'my'
MY WAR was a great album, as far as lyrics and music, but Spot fucking buried everything. The engineering on it was terrible, sounded like shit. But the song writing was awesome
Why doesn't he hate Reagan? I've lost all respect for him.