UNSC Infinity vs. Resurgent Star Destroyer -- Who Would Win? | (Rematch) | Halo vs Star Wars
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We remake one of the channel's most contentious match-ups as the First Order's Resurgent Star Destroyer tried to defeat, for a second time, the UNSC Infinity. Halo vs Star Wars, UNSC vs First Order, Infinity vs Resurgent. Who will win? Find out on today's Star Wars vs Halo episode!
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Infinity: *_Drops_*_ _*_nova_*_ _*_bomb_*_ _*_and_*_ _*_flees_*
Resurgent: my time has come
**Destiny has entered the chat**
*WHAT THE FU- BOOOOOOM!!!!!!!*
Well I can tell I've played too much destiny
Chief's plot armor vs The High Ground
Who wins? You decide
Just Some Guy without a Mustache
Epic rap battles of history
Sgt. Johnson’s Ghost
The senate wins
Plot armor. Cheif survived a nuclear explosion from a distance of a few feet. There would be no high ground, just leveled ground
I have to admit that the high ground works well against an army but chief's plot armor destroyed a whole alien empire.
When you said boomstick, I suddenly had a mental image of Bruce Campbell as captain of the infinity saying "Prepare the boomstick", and one shotting the star destroyer.
Ohhhh yes.... LMAO
This is my boomstick. It's a twelve-gauge, double-barreled Remington. S-Mart's top of the line. You can find this in the sporting goods department. That's right, this sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Retails for about $109.95. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt-blue steel, and a hair trigger. That's right, shop smart: shop S-Mart
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@@tonyhupp2379 In 1992 I rode my BMX bike 11 miles in the rain to the next town (that had a movie theater) to watch Army of Darkness. After the movie, it was raining much harder, it had got windy, and it had got really cold for my ride back. By the time I made it home I was in pretty rough shape and ended up really sick for a few days. WORTH IT, TOTALLY WORTH IT.
@@tonyhupp2379 seriously the 12-Guage literally can fit .50 BMG rounds
6:09 An angry Eck has apeared (and rightfully so)
@V1 Rotate Didn't notice
@V1 Rotate wassnt just u he seemed frustrated ....but hey life happens doubt it's due to the theft likely more rl
V1 Rotate I noticed that as well.
Did someone say COMMUNITY-ROAST!? i'm in!
"What a cheeky little fella," he's justified.
Infinity's spartan 4 team vs my betraying jerk of an apprentice.
Vader. No contest. He's freakin' space wizard XD
It's treason then
The infinity has a big ass Spartan "team". I'm pretty sure there's a few hundred on board.
@@Jockster109 Space wizard. Space wizard with plot armour. Like Vader hasn't faced down and army and won before. Vader and the 501st vs some unamed spartans. Those guys are toast. Even just Vader, they're going down, he's the greatest villian in movie history. He only died in Return of the Jedi because he chose to. The man is literally a machine with the ability to explode internal organs with his mind.
Probably Vader, I don't think there's anyone in Halo period who can take him on
I've been here since the ARC-170vs X-wing, the intro hit me like an anvil-carying long haul truck!
DB 2310 I think the ARC would probably win off the cuff, but imma watch that video
Rebel sukc
It was a real throwback
Yes it was
If the UNSC was piloted by Spartans they would just use the UNSC as a battering ram, meaning everyone dies
Hold up.
OMG, I could see that happening
Hello there again.
Nope, cause they would first put the infinity in mjolnir armour
*meaning everyone goes Missing In Action.
If the Resurgent enters in a broadside battle against the Infinity it puts itself in an almost point blank range of a massive missile barrage
You assume the infinity has no ability to slip out of a broadside
Християн лазаров you’re also assuming that the UNSC doesn’t just release its frigates
Yeah but in a broadside battle I'd give it to the Kyber crystal guns over a bunch of missiles just about any day. Not to mention that the Infinity likely damages itself with nuclear ordnance at that range
@@jakedempsey3809 yeah but no because the resurgent shield can't take FTL ramming and the Infinity have MACs on it's side and how close do you think they are for the nuclear explosion to damage the Infinity
Also two of the Infinity super MACs are broadside, so at least one will be pointing at the Resurgent.
I would have to agree with your predicted outcome, however as you mentioned, the Infinity can use its slipspace drive to out maneuver the resurgent to where even if the Star Destroyer gets behind the Infinity, they could just jump into a more advantageous location.
Can't the resurgent do that too tho
@@capitancoolness942 well no the resurgence star destroyer is like a tank and it use hyperdrives which have different purposes.
@@Knightmare919 micro jumps are doable
Infinity has longer MACs than the ODPs, which are barely more than 1.33 Kilometers in length in Total. Infinity has, not counting the Forerunner Engines, Longer MACs than the ODPs, although it has not been specified How Much that is. Much better video than the previous version.
The Seeker of Ancient Truth
You said the infinity has longer macs than the odps twice
@@highadmiraljt5853 Thanks for catching the error. I mean it.
Of course your old intro is remembered. Your old verses videos were legendary
#AskEck
The Forerunner Fortress-Class Dreadnought vs Eldar Craftworld.
(Halo vs Warhammer 40k)
The Forerunner fortress win in my opinion
I saw this common on his last few vids lol
@@theodorewai2864 I think that the Blackstone Fortress vs the Fortress class dreadnought, is a more fair matchup.
@@misterhyde408
What's that?
@@thorshammer7883 An old ones gigantic craft, Old ones in 40k are basically the same as the forunner I could make simultaneously their description side to side. Blackstone Fortress are featured in both Battle fleet Gothic armada 1 and 2, they were used by chaos space marines. It as 4 warp canons, which are a pretty serious deal
Ah the old intro brings back memories
Someone's rocking the apollo emblem
Bobsbestfriend My man
@@IrishPhoenix7 ayyy, I use it as well. Apollo is where its at.
True
"ludicrous speeds" eh? you mean it shoots plaid rounds?
“The UNSC Infinity!”
“They’ve gone to plaid!”
“Basically the UNSC hacking”
XD
“The power of the force will protect me”
“Nothing will protect you from plot buddy”
Sorry but your the baddies and we have missiles
Eckhart’s Ladder: “Boarding action won’t be important for this battle...”
Me: Having flashbacks of Star Wars: battlefront 2
Probably won’t even happen because the Infinity is littered with secondary and point defense systems.
@@TheGeoCheese Yeah, and nevermind the hundreds of SPARTANs...
It almost feels like Eckhart forgot about Halo 2. If Halo gets the Chief we got a points boost for sure.
The hardest part about comparing anything to the Star Wars universe is that none of its tech is based on any form of realism (as shown by the insane power output of their capital weapons) rather than things like Halo or WH40K (though saying WH40K is realistic is also somewhat false).
Something I like to do with these kinds of comparisons is assume a kind of "power parity." In general this means that each side's weapons will be considered to be reasonably effective against the other. That way we can actually discuss design, tactics, and strategy instead of just quoting big numbers for tonnage/shielding
@Dr-fate-hoes-comp-Umineko Ah yes, the Forerunners. The people who embody the phrase "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". Tilting the galaxy was just gravity manipulation on an extremely wide scale, something also seen in Star Wars with Centerpoint/Sinkhole Station (though not on that grand a scale).
I love how you addressed that stolen video. XD Just wanted to say that it made me chuckle. Videos are good as usual, keep up the awesome work man.
Oh boy the rematch happened! Glad to see that you fell on the kinetic side of the force :D
As long as there's no main characters a single resurgent-class could be taken over by three Spartan fireteams
Likely
he said the Resurgent was more like a standard capitol ship, so I think he should have done the Infinity vs the Mandator IV, #AskEck , or maybe do the Infinity vs Bellator (Man III), or perhaps one of the Executor class. I think the Eclipse class matchup would be interesting, but would ultimately go to the Eclipse.
@@ToastGamingNCrew Resurgent class vs the Autumn class of the UNSC
Yeah but if a single force user was on there then that probably would not happen
@@wendyandmiketerell997 A Spartan fire team beats a force user anyday... The UNSC uses ballistic weapons rather than 'energy weapons' otherwise known as slugthrowers. Thing is bullets have a faster velocity than laser bolts and 4 spartans raining down hell on a force user? Dead.
Force users maybe able to predict incoming attacks but spartans react almost instantaneously are significantly stronger and would be able to match the speed of a force user, besides they wouldn't need to fight the force user if they chose not to... All they'd need to do is deliver their payload and exfil and they'd be dandy and if a 4 man team doesn't work well the UNSC Infinity has a compliment of over 400 spartans Lmao
As much as I love the Resurgent class (my favorite ship in the First Order) I have to give it to the Infinity. It's just got too many tactical advantages and more adaptability in combat.
Plus the energy shield
Great work on the video dude.
I would say this though, while you said you won't get into boarding action, it's pretty much guaranteed that in a situation like this that if the Infinity was ever put in a position it couldn't win through positioning or firepower, they would quite literally launch Spartans at the opposing ship like they were missiles to inflict as much damage and sabotage as possible.
Stormtroopers vs Spartan IV's?
That would be a fucking massacre. Quality over quantity at its finest.
Yeah but maybe just maybe starwars universe would learn that that shifty stormtrooper Armour could be done way better shits literally useless doesn't even stop pistol fire mean I'm in the army and infantry and I'd take my IOTV over that crap Armour any day lol
Honestly, as long as 40k isn't involved, the infinity will always win any versus battle, it's literally a whole fleet of heavy frigates and a dreadnought vs whatever.
The 10 heavy frigates themselves are an insanely impressive fleet that would easily beat most star wars capital ships, if we include the infinity then it's a no brainer
When it comes to scale of the weapons and armor, the infinity could even mess up so e of the mid range 40k ships too
@@Yomotomen you mean the things they have 100's of thousands of? maybe
@@rainunderscore hey man, i said some, halo’s army scale vs 40k’s are entirely different, one on one against maaaaaybe a mid to large size 40k, would be even but im not really too versed, obviously any 40k army would usually decimate any other medias army other than maybe the flood if it got lucky
@@YomotomenThe Flood are pretty much a 40k race that ended up in the wrong setting. The gap in power between Halo's modern and ancient races is comical.
@@wolfgangervin2582 yeah, they’re real weak at the start though and 40k has more than enough tools to wipe them out before proper scaling happens, remember the ancient humans were actually regularly hunting flood infected worlds till the forrunners wiped them out, although, all the flood would really need i reckon for the 40k universe is probably 1 ship, that’d probably be enough to set course for the rest of the galaxy
Rewatching that scene of the Infinity firing at the Mantel’s Approach made me realize that 343 didn’t go for a “projectile” look and more of a “energy weapon” look for the firing of MAC guns. It looks more sustained than a projectile would be and it’s a bit too pure white throughout compared to what a projectile trail that long from a weapon that big would actually look like
I feel like no projectile going that fast will stay in one piece
I think that's just an artistic liberty to make it look cooler, if they made it look like how it canonically is then you would not even be able to see anything being fired whatsoever
I do wonder if perhaps it could be firing multiple smaller projectiles rapidly like how PoA could fire 3 at a time.
I might be misremembering, but I believe that the MACs also turned the projectile into molten slag as it was accelerated. In other words, it was a giant molten tungsten watergun.
maybe those secretly weren't superMACs. maybe they were Fibril Cutters
Doesn’t the infinity have those mini MAC platforms like the one from halo reach?
The modernized military version yes. It has two banks along its upper hull to assist the point defense network.
I think it has like 8 MAC Guns which means 4 shots to disable any shields on the destroyer and 4 to turn it into Swiss cheese
@@calebmoore7007 plus all the strident's it carries, that's another 10 MACs, so really right away the resurgent can get hit by around 15-20 MACs
@@coconutshrimp707 yeah so honestly I would say that the infinity would have this battle in the bag because archer missiles would be able to mop up
@@calebmoore7007 *MAC'n cheese
sorry
i had to do it
#AskEck Elites (Bungie) VS Predators. Bungie took inspiration from the Predators when designing the Elites. Please make this versus match up.
I'd give it to the Elite. Both have active camo, both are incredibly strong, but the elite has energy shields, and I believe that will make all the difference
The predator, for sure.
Their guerrilla tactics and much more specialized gear beats the elite, who is treated as an ground troop. Though I guess it depends on which type of elite.
Are we talking SoS elite, or convenant elite?
@@MoonLight-zj8iu visual cloaking doesn't stop thermals, or hunter instinct.
Archodus Vaxal
True.
elites are a bit taller than predators,with the larger ones around a foot higher.Both are well trained warriors but elites have better tech.
That intro made me travel back in time harder than the avengers
A SciFi RUclipsr advertising noodles....
Not disappoint
"It's a big boom stick."
Ah yes, the most advanced weapon in existence is just a big space boom stick.
Always as been
Always was and will be
"Most advanced weapon"
Forerunner tech: Am I a joke to you?
Not the most advanced, no, but quite plausibly the most devastating.
The kinetic force alone of a single Super MAC, even if it fails to destroy the ship, is enough to cause the structural integrity of the ship to vibrate itself apart.
Vs matchup
Brute or Brute chieftain from Halo vs A Predator from the Predator franchise. With 2 rounds First round unarmed and unarmored. Second round fully armed and armored
Predator wins armed chieftain wins unarmed.
Predator wins both. Predators arent as physically strong as Brutes but their skill in battle is like that of a spartan and the average spartan tanks the average brute due to skill. With armor and weapons the predator slaughters Brutes
Tristan Edward nah predators are not as strong as Spartans physically bc u sometimes see humans putting up a decent fight against them in hand to hand. Brutes are just ludicrously strong and with chieftains being the strongest and biggest of them the yautja wouldn’t really stand a chance
General Tullius
Predators could easily use their stealth to their advantage. And the predators have the weaponry and skill to kill a chieftain
Unarmed, the predator gets oofed
High Admiral J.T. That’s what I said lol. And I’d say the shoulder cannon would be equivalent to a fuel rod blast so the predator could just nail him
The video that practically started it all! Glad to see a shoutout to the old format
This was a totally stacked fight from the beginning for the reasons covered. It's a one of a kind purposefully OP super ship vs a powerful, but ultimately still conventional mainline battleship
Eck I think you would like playing a game called space engineers. You can create ships (you have to hand build them or download them for the steam workshop). It also has combat, you can pilot the ships yourself and it also has planets and space. There are also lots of good Star Wars mods and builds on the workshop. I hope you consider the game.
Links?
Eck has done a crossover with Captain Shack of TheXPGamers before, if I'm not mistaken...so I feel he's probably quite aware of Space Engineers. I could be wrong though
@@zachhoefs9543 i think i remember that too.
MrGoesBoom
Search it up
Ahhhhhh lord clang has made its presence known ;)
There’s also the fact that the Infinity carries planet destroying warheads...RIP the Resurgent
You do know that NOVA is used as a last resort weapon? Wherein Infinity would be destroyed as well.
I actually forgot infinity carries nova bombs.
John Ticyado not really. If they deploy weapons of destruction there are certain protocols to ensure minimal casualties to friendlies.
@@jared8019 hard to do with Nova.
@@renton0915 not with how fast it can jump. In and out and the resurgent can't even react.
You kinda forgot that two of the Infinities Super MACs are in fact broadside cannons, meaning much shorter and probably less powerful then the main ones but devestating non the less.
So even in a braodside engagment, the Infinity is ahead, even if only slightly. ^^
Wait, orher than the fact i did not know that, they have the same classification tho, wich surely would mean they are the same.
LtCWest MAC cannons can still be powerful while ultimately being small, for example the Pillar of Autumn had a smaller MAC cannon however featured a different slug which acted like shredder rounds from the M85B so it splits into multiple fragments upon impact and was also able to fire 3 times without having to be recharged.
They are not broadside all 4 are on the bow it is just two of them are on the bow flank
@@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068 i checked and actually it is stated that there are indeed 2 of them flank...
@@hermeister3870 4× CR-03B, Series 8 MAC (2 bow, 2 bow flank) (Post-2558 refit) it is on the bow flank but it is still facing forward
the infinity smashed right through a Covenant Battle-cruiser after just coming out of slip-space like it was not even there. THE INFINITY WINS.
It was a RCS class light cruiser, not a battlecruiser. I know they are clones, the battle cruiser is just bigger
@@chuck1005 STILL if it can do that to a 1000 or so meter ship like it no big deal then i doubt a New Order ship is much more trouble.
@@chuck1005 the RCS is actually bigger by about 200 meters. it is a heavier but less refined and slightly less powerful ship the nthe CCS.
@@JeanLucCaptain the RCS is about 2000 meters long.
@@Greywolf905 nearly as long as the resurgent huh?
#askEck How did the role of different Imperial special forces groups, such as Storm Commandos and Imperial Commandos, differ from each other?
Storm Commandos need more love, they're an awesome faction.
Well the imperial special forces was pretty much dark side adepts which were like lumaiya and jerec. troopers meant for stealth like imperial commandos storm commandos and terror troopers then finally troopers meant to be one man armies. such as dark troopers or zero g assault troopers and many more.and most of them were really OP
Wow never been this early... anyways love your vids and those intro and outro soundtracks !
“What a cheeky lil fella” god damn if your so great Eck
Who would win? #StarshipVersus #AskEck
Resurgent vs. MC 85
Bellator vs. Resurgent
Nebula vs. Pelleaon
neat
1. Resurgent wins clearly
2. Bellator wins clearly
3. Pelleon wins... maybe not clearly, but yeah, it would win
@Tron The true numbers of weapons that the bellator has is unknown. So i see the facts: The Bellator is more than the double of the lenght of the Resurgent and a practical, dedicated dreadnought, made for capitalship-hunting. And this description is (in my opinion) strong enought to beat a Resurgent.
@Tron You are principly right, but the a bigger ship has more space to but weapons on it, and because it is a Imperial ship, they had used that space. How i said: the Bellator is a dedicated capitalship-killer. Even the really advanced and really impressive Resurgent is not able to beat a bellator in a direct fight. Maybe i overestimate the bellator and battle is closer than i think, but i would still say taht the bellator wins. Not 10 times out of 10, but 8 or 9 times out of 10.
@Tron The Bellator has a point-defense-system, so the Tie/sf´s would be relativly effectless. And in a Battle with thousands of Turbolasers a few missiles doesn´t make a different.
#AskEck
Do you think that the galaxy would be better off without Jedi?
Yes purge the jedi scum!
No without the Jedi the galaxy would be doomed
@@jedithenoooblet2680 Roger Roger
Starcatcher just Jedi or all Force users?
There's always a risk that a Jedi would turn to the dark side and become a homicidal maniac, so yes, they are ticking time bombs.
Maybe you could do a video on it the UNSC infinity was a star wars vessel. What weapons armor complement would it have. A cool idea for a interesting video. I have ed Henry the idea of what the ship would look like and do something like he did with the millennium falcon in star trek
I wonder if it would be a worse version? They get rid of all MACs, missles, railguns, and just add many turbo lasers. Would they have frigates from there universe instead in the underbelly? Who would own it? So many questions.
The only things that are likely to be replaced would be the Super MACs with Mass Driver cannons and the AA guns replaced by point defense lasers. Other than that, it'll still be the same.
I like this style of matchup a LOT more as it's not determined by how many zeros an author decided to put behind their lore numbers and rather on design and functionally
Without watching
The Infinity would obliterate any starwars ship. Only one that might be challenge is the Eclipse because the superlaser is comperable to the MACs but AI Systems are faster and 100% acc. so yea rip Star Destroyer
The Eclipse’s super laser can destroy CONTINENTS. It would annihilate the Infinity
@@Not_actually_a_commie the shield could take a hit from it and the infinity would still be able to function though heavily damaged, add in the fact that they would most likely get their shots off about the same time and both ships would be most likely crippled were they would need to rely on their fighters. except the infinity has its own support fleet with it so it wins.
@@Not_actually_a_commie In a comic the Infinity took continuous hits from 3 covenant glassing stations whose sole purpose was to melt continents on their own, the infinity survived albeit critically damaged.
The infinity's SMACs are insanely powerful too, when the Infinity was bombarding the surface of Sanghelios (or a related planet) in a certain book and each shell left multi-mile craters.
The Eclipse don't got shit on the Infinity
Rise of Skywalker says hello
@@Not_actually_a_commie infinity has nova bombs which are planet killers so I disagree.
wiki page: www.halopedia.org/NOVA_bomb
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The Infinity being used as a battering ram against the Covenant cruisers will always be satisfying
“We will show them the way”
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A few things.
Congrats on getting married!
I think this is a very well thought out conclusion.
A couple other things that weren't really mentioned that would give the Infinity an even greater chance of winning.
1. The jump to slip space for the Infinity is really quite fast and because of the way slip space works, they can appear behind the Resurgent with MACs facing it if they got to close or simply wanted shot it from behind.
2. Those nukes it carries? Yeah... They can destroy moons with ease and cause devastation on a planetary scale, even cracking the planet apart.
To be honest, i hate the Resurgant. It has way too much weapons for Star Wars logic. The ISD has 156 while the Resurgant has over 1000, while beeing only twice as long (4 times the mass because of its triangular shape). It is a nice ship, but those numbers annoy me.
Yeah I was kinda shook by how many guns they said the Resurgent had because its on Super SD tier while being like 1/5th the size
Many weapons on the Resurgent are most likely much smaller. Maybe many of them are just the point defence rocket launchers.
@@TheKingofbrooklin You have a point there, but smaller than a regular Turbolaser in an ISD would also make it much less effective, so i dont believe in a huge size difference. Also the Rocket launchers arent included in these numbers. It says 1500 Turbolasers, Ion cannons and Point Defense Laser cannons + several rocket launchers.
@@Dalipsingh111111 I think it has a similar number of heavy turbolasers as the old ISD but additional medium and light turbolasers.
Personally if fighters were deployed I bet the Broadsword fighters could give the Tie Fighters a run for their money. Plus if boarding action happened the Spartans and ODSTs would easily kill all the Storm Troopers.
One there is more than one ripe of tie destroyer and even if there was only one the ties are faster and have better pilots along with missiles and laser cannons number two spartans could but considering there were death troopers the ODST would die even each said so and a few sith we would be fine against Spartans what beats the resurgent is way better fire power
Wendy and Mike Terell tie fighters are horrible dog fighters they have to be be in visual range to engage
That classic intro. Been there since below for vs viscount. Congrats on getting married man. Maybe you can do battleground Dakota or India vs zonama sekot or Starkville base. Congrats on the wedding
Congrats on the wedding
Congratulations on getting married man, I am truly appreciate of you and this channel I have learned so much about Star Wars and sci-fi and its really piqued my interest and may God continue to bless your days!!!!.
I remember that intro. That, and tje one where the X-Wing does a flyby on a lot of ships.
#AskEck
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CSO-Supercarrier vs Viscount Dreadnought
A "broadside" of ten thousand .22's is NOT the same as a "broadside" of 10 .50cal.
More DOESN'T mean more powerful.
Especially since the Infinity has two banks of militarized Onager mass drivers that unmilitarized could severely damage CCS battlecruisers albeit unshielded.
kris guntner I think your severely underestimating the ridiculous power gap between a conventional missile and a star destroyer’s turbo laser bolt.
@@krimsonfel3676 its not the power gap so much as Infinity has 25,000 ship to ship missiles which are much much larger than anything in Star Wars. And each one is capable of gutting an armored starship. In fact its often used to finish off Covenant vessels after their shields have been dropped. Also seeing as Imperial Star Destroyers have 0 CIWS of any kind a lot of them are likely to get through. That also means all those turbo lasers are toast.
@@krimsonfel3676 The only thing I underestimate is the willingness for fans boys to believe "expanded universe" material put out by people wanting to make money when the ACTUAL movies DON'T show anything remotely as powerful as stated in those books.
Congrats on your wedding! i hope for a long and happy marriage
I hate the FO but I LOVE THE RESURGENT having said that Inifinity wins tbh.
Only 90s kids remember the original
#askeck do you like Allen from Generation Tech
#humanityfirst
>says the guy with an alien pfp
"What a cheeky lil fella" can't stop laughing
Infinity has two of the Series 8 Super MACs pointing directly to its stern, so it can survive being hit from the back.
Me: The Infinity has 4 enormous MACs over 1000 missiles and...
The Infinity: LOL ramming speed
1. Two of the Infinity's SuperMAC's are rear facing, so putting the resurgent behind it doesn't necessarily make it any more likely to win.
2. I think the reason the Infinity's MAC's succeeded where the ODP's failed was because it was able to get close and line up a shot more carefully.
Distance shouldnt really be relevant. Though better aiming might be. Who knows, that might have had an effect.
Nope, the Infinity MAC's succeded where the ODP's failed because it has more powerful guns... Your logic makes jack shit in terms of sense as the Didact's ship is literally comparable to the bloody Death Star in size.
@@Thurnmourer Easy there. I'm talking about hitting a specific spot weaker than the rest of it, not just hitting the ship itself.
@@mistrants2745 In sci-fi battles, particularly ones with kinetic weapons and their theoretically infinite range it makes sense for ships to make random evasive movements, so while the ship is no longer in its projected position when incoming fire arrives. Getting closer wouldn't effect power, but it would effect accuracy.
@@justinthompson6364 Well yeah thats true but thats already your second point. Which i did acknowledge could have made a difference. Its more that you currently use two arguments to make one argument.
"I'm going to move away from making calculations based on lore references"
But this is the thing I like most about comparison videos.. otherwise it's just a completely subjective opinion. Like, a halo warship might be powerful against other halo ships but that means absolutely nothing when comparing universes if you aren't going to at least attempt to accurately measure their differences, *especially* when comparing universes with depth to the extent of Halo & Star wars. I'm not trying to be rude, I just genuinely have no idea what you mean by that.
I agree.
Oh that intro hit me like a freight train, i paused the video just to write the comment.
Great content eckhartzladder and congratulations!
The answer to this is simple, NOVA nukes. slipspace on top of the Resurgent drop a nova and run. Mission complete, one dead capital ship and/or nearby planetary super-weapon Cough*Starkiller*Cough.
#AskEck
What would happen if MasterChef was apart of the Star Wars Universe during the Clone Wars?
@@wadedewell sorry but i cannot see Master Chief being beaten by Droids. I think the enemys he fights are fairly comparable. Grunts and Jackals- Battle Droids
Elites - Commando Droids maybe?
Brutes- Super Battle Droids
Hunter- Droidika with bigger gun (?)
He would team up with Rex
Gordon Ramsay would call Anakin a donkey, and Joe would throw Anakin's poorly made food into the trash
@@wadedewell Only a select few Jedi and Sith are actually over powered in the star wars universe so your comment is invalid.
Depends on how the star wars universe reacts to him. If they kinda ignore him and treat him like any other clone trooper then I think he'd have a relatively low impact. If the republic found him there's a very strong possibility that he might replace Jango Fett as the template for all future clones, regardless of if he went willingly or not.
Ha'Tak(SG.1) VS Star Destroyer(Star Wars)
The Star Wars Universe would just need a single smaller ship and hyperspace ram the Infinity...
Then again, the Infinity could just launch a spare or sacrificial slipspace drive at the Resurgence and teleport half the Resurgence to God knows where in slipspace and we get the same effective outcome. LOL! Especially effective if you happen to teleport large portions of the bridge, engineering, and hangar sections into slipspace while leaving the fore and aft sections behind in normal space with no control systems or power...plus with that much slipspace radiation within the hull of the Resurgence, would there be any remaining troops, or even androids, still left functional and capable of continuing the fight?
UNSC INFINITY FTW!
United Mass Effect galaxy + the Reapers vs a Yuzhan Vong invasion
that intro man,brings me back!
Lord vader your grandson is being whiny again
I saw this in my subscription widow before the notification.😁
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The concept of "effective range" in space is always funny.
Like whats gonna slow your MAC shot ? Wind ? XD
"What a cheeky little fella" Hahahaha very justified frustration Ech, and I hope you don't mind me finding that comment absolutely halarious
I actually enjoyed walking down memory lane with your intro it brings back memories @eckheartslater I remember you intro
Video suggestion #askeck:
X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)
These cross-franchise comparisons are pointless, especially when they include such vague technologies like deflector/force fields or mystery metals.
Who's to say the weapons of either ship is even capable of penetrating a deflector shield in another SciFI franchise? Unless such tech is quantified in the lore (which it almost never is), e.g. "X ship is Y fast, and has shields capable of withstanding Z newtons worth of force." I like this channel, but this speculation is plain fanwankery.
Welcome to 90% of the trek vs wars debate
I have been an active fan here since the Venator vs Liberty class video (the first vs video I believe).
I used to watch some of your lore videos from time to time before that tho
I can't see any Star Wars shields holding against relativistic projectiles. It's established canon that single-seat fighters can punch momentary holes in capship deflector screens, and that fighters can pass through full-strength deflectors with no effect.
We also have hard numbers available for the energy in a MAC round. The games and canonized books give us mass and speed for many of them. If deflector screens won't stop a 2-ton X-wing at 500 kph, they aren't going to stop a 100-ton MAC slug at 5% C.
IMO - Star Wars ships massively underperform again basically every other SciFi universe. All of the canon lore shows us that Star Wars ships are basically spacefaring wooden galleons. They often have deck-mounted crew-served artillery, without even centralized fire control. they are heavily dependent upon the human eye for tracking and ranging of targets. They are manually piloted.
I don't think a Republic-era cruiser would stand a chance in an engagement against a 1940s-era real-world battleship, much less against other SciFi universe spaceships.
#AskEck
Old One Blackstone Fortress (Warhammer 40k) vs Forerunner Fortress-Class Dreadnought (Halo).
I don't know what those do in other media, but the ones in battle fleet gothic would get curb stomped
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Forerunner ships can destroy planets and stars just look up the lore.
@@thorshammer7883 I'm saying the Blackstone Fortresses as show in the game battle fleet gothic would get wrecked, I don't know how they perform in other sources.
@@Greywolf905 in the actual fluff a Blackstone fortress is quite able to destroy a planet by itself with ease. 3 of them together can send a star into supernova (which they can survive long enough inside of in order to warp jump out).
They're basically the deathstar but with no exhaust port. Also usually defended by chaos space marines.
@@Benthesniperof8 Then there's definitely no way that they could win. Forerunner civilian vessels alone were able to send stars into supernovas since they needed wipe out the solar system at any sign of the flood. That kind of destructive capability being that widely used compared to three of the very best ships that the old ones have is not even a competition as to who has more firepower.
Yeah, i enjoyed this explanation far more than the original. It feels much less biased, and the clarification of how you measure the outcome makes a huge positive difference.
P.S. love the old intro
VF-1 Valkyrie variable fighter( SDF Macross) vs Viking mech( Starcraft).
LED Mirage mortar headd( Five Star Stories) vs Reaver class titan ( warhammer 40K).
Eckharts:"shielding is pretty much the same"
Watches original starwars: *Capital ship rams capital ship and cuts it in half*
Watches halo ramming: *no damage taken*
Well there could be a way that the UNSC Infinity can actually get rid of whatever ship without firing any rounds.
It is in the form of it's hyperdrive jump drive.
The Infinity can simply go close to the enemy ship for a brief moment or even point it, then start the hyperspace jump procedure opening a small wormhole in front of her and then just abort the procedure.
An AI on board of the Infinity can easily make it.
The opponent ship will be broke in half by the immense strenght of the black hole.
Whatever it remains can be easily taken down by the ship after this "strike" is done.
Eck mentions that power generation on Star Wars capital ships is insane
Forgets that it also applies to shields
*SMASHES HEAD AGAINST DESK
Same xD
Vs matchup
Sgt. Johnson(Halo) vs Captain Rex(Star Wars)
TheWingland Sgt. Johnson would easily win. Rex does not know what the ladies like
I am rooting for rex
Commissar _ ha lols
bemotivated Rex is one of my favorite clones as well with my favorite being aloha 17
TheWingland its a tie at mid range red takes it at far range though it’s a hard battle and at close range Johnson takes it but it is also a hard fought battle
Type-47A(H2) scarab vs type-47B(H3,reach,odst) scarab vs Banished scarab vs Volatile scarab
This feels like a Certain Brute got drunk and decided to grab three Scarabs plus his pet project and have them fight.
Lol I can totally see Voridus doing that
@@nicholassas4201 It does seem like something he'd do, meanwhile Pavium is trying to control himself over seeing the sheer misappropriation and misuse of valuable resources and equipment.
I feel so sorry for Pavium, he's an actually pretty good leader however his reckless blood thirsty brother is constantly doing actions that get them both in trouble
@@nicholassas4201 Voridus seems more like a Glory Hound than someone who's blood thirsty.
I won't argue on the reckless bit though.
From what I understand, most UNSC capital ships are equipped with an AI, though they're typically the "Dumb" variant.
I've been a Halo fan since its inception and a Star Wars fan since my inception. Watched a lot of your videos but this is the first moment where I really kind of wondered (hoped for) a movie or TV series where the Halo universe and the Star Wars universe are actually in the same universe.
Happy to see this one come back since I'm a fan of both ships! I didn't agree with the original outcome but I can see why it fell that way in the early days. Great video Eck!
#StarshipVersus #AskEck
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UNSC Infinity vs Eclipse 2
the eclipse wrecks continents with single shots and is more than three times the length. the infinity is OP for her Tonnage, but the eclipse is one of those few SW ships that actually is as strong as fanboys say she is.
Nice update.
I do not think you can forget boarding. As any faction that can make and do use Super soldiers; boarding is going to be a major tactic planned, trained for and executed on and especially when the enemy does not. There is a reason why Astartes carry chain and power swords and other melee weapons in 40k. I mean if you can make hulk level tough, fast, and strong troops they are most effective in close combat where they are ripping normal humans to pieces and can not be sniped by tanks, fixed heavy weapons or artillery pieces.
I Mean Master chief: John in the games has boarded the Covenant's largest capital ships and killed every species in the covenant and the Flood as well on board, and actually destroying the ship also; Heck he has done this on Halo Rings also; with most being crewed/ occupied by well above baseline humans. In the SW verse's evil human-only empires' only employ Baseline human beings
I think the UNSC would have to be idiots not to use boarding to destroy huge Cap. ships, seeming as they have used this tactic with Master-Chief: Jon to save their A$$e$ several times. Also, I feel sorry for the imperial Storm Troopers who are ordered to board a UNSC ship, a ship that counts Super-Soldiers amongst its crew/ fighting force. certainly, they will not be running over the bodies of the people they kill, the Spartans though will have to wash a lot of red chunks out of their shiny power-armored boot treads.
Love the uses of your old intro.
Could the Terran Dominion survive the Flood
I think it’s reasonable to assume that Infinity’s MAC’s are more powerful than the “Super MAC’s” on ODP’s. Any UNSC warship has a MAC approximately 2/3 the length of the ship so for the Infinity that’s about a 10,000ft long MAC cannon firing a larger,heavier projectile than ODP’s ALOT faster than the comparatively small 4,000ish ft long MAC tubes of ODP’s
It’s already been confirmed Infinity’s SMACs fire more powerful and faster rounds than the Moncton IV Class ODPs. The Infinity is a beast.
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Bruh it’s a big beast
It’s honestly my favorite sci fi capital ship
I honestly love that small rant about your video being stolen, that shit's really fun to listen to, I have no idea why
I have been here since the episode about the best super solider. And as a video suggestion could u make a video about the covenant ship "Pious Inquisitor" vs a Venator from the Republic. Also love ur vids, as I have always done.
what a cheeky little fella
I enjoy that you have no grudges for the guy who translated it. Good on you man.
He should do a UNSC pelican vs a star fighter