I am a medic and I hated working in my profession for this very reason. I was appalled at how some doctors treated patients, secretaries and colleagues. I retired early. And you are right- they do protect each other. I would say the same about solicitors.
Do you have an opinion on what happened in 2020-2021 during lockdowns and the medical profession you’d care to share? I think there’s been a LOT of gaslighting that went on and is still going on within that field especially with vaccine injured
@@philippagrimoire5968i will be totally honest and say I don't know. I did get 3 vaccines myself. Medicine is not a perfect science and that applies to all areas of medicine and surgery. My fear is that this is only the first of other possible pandemics. Viruses are always mutating and we can't keep up with this.
As a nurse practitioner, a nurse who practices as a physician, I saw two fascinating things. Doctors protect each other at all costs while nurses tend to undermine each other. Both dysfunctional in opposite ways.
I dated one. Can confirm this; it was the worst experience of my life It took me some time to realise what was wrong with him. Its been 3 years since we broke up, and he still tries to manipulate and hoover me back. He is an awful person, the most selfcentered and cold-hearted I have ever met, hiding it all behind a facade of 'the good doctor'
Retired RN here. 40 years of working with many narcissistic, dangerous medical professionals. The general public has no idea how many mistakes are swept “ under the rug “ by narcissists. I’m so glad to be out of the profession.
They also take liberties with patients. My grandmother was a nurse and proudly told me about what they did to certain patients they didn't like in surgery. People should think twice about having any procedure done that isn't absolutely necessary. Stay out of the hospital and you'll likely live longer in the long run.
@@chrispaul1117 … I reported many. I stopped an inebriated anesthesiologist from performing surgery. The American Medical Association and State Boards of Nursing, along with the unions protect many unsafe workers.
I hate you went through that! My narc father is a psychologist. It was hell on earth. I hope you are doing better now. I know therapy could probably help me but I am terrified of being gaslit by a therapist.
I recently had a bad experience with doctors. I was on the operating table and had a bad feeling about it, I went with my gut and got off it and said I didn't want to ho through with it which threw everyone in the theater. I later talked with head surgeon and we realized he had got me confused with another patient. He shut down the conversation quickly and prescribed the antibiotics I needed, I had avoided an unnecessary operation intended for someone else. I felt traumatized but thank God that I followed my intuition. I didn't make a complaint because I thought that they would just gaslight me as a bad patient. It's exactly as you say...medicine is all about them and not about the patient, I will never get an apology...a lucky escape.
This is such an important lesson. ALWAYS follow your gut when it is screaming at you like that. Don’t worry about putting ppl out or making a fuss. Kick up hell if you have to. Especially when it comes to something irreversible. You are within your rights to stop, pause and take stock, ensure everything is in order and then commit, if you choose to. I’m so glad you listened to your instincts, that was not luck, that was intelligence and conviction. Well done.
I’ve worked in healthcare in USA for the last 20 years - agree with you completely- why are you the only one that speaks the truth? I called a doctor out this week - I’ve had enough of them harming their patients by giving incorrect information at follow up visit after a surgery. No response, mic drop. Two patients injured this last week - BECAUSE OF WHAT THEIR DOCTOR TOLD THEM!
I was left legally disabled by a surgery done by a doctor I am convinced now had little experience in the surgery he proposed and performed and was motivated by greed. He gave a shit he hadn’t performed this surgery before - there was money to be made! Lots of money in surgery.
My ex, an MD, who was diagnosed with cluster B disorder at the Beck Institute, used to break up furniture and said if I called the police while he was doing it, he would say it was me and they would believe him because he was a doctor and he would have me committed.
My MD ex was the most horrible person I've ever come across in my life. Getting myself, and our child, away from him was the best decision I've ever made.
My ex an anesthesiologist used to say that too. And he would cheat on me with this ugly girl. Also I question what kind of abuse he did to his little son. He even hacked my computer and had me followed. What a whack job.
I worked with a nurse who’s ex was a doctor. She opened up to me a few times and told me about some of the things she endured. She said he would beat her and inject her with drugs to knock her out. Often, she said she would come to, locked up in the closet in the dark; while he left to see other women. I believe her, she had no reason to make up anything to me. Other doctors I’ve worked with fit his description perfectly! I’ve had charts thrown at me, etc and not one thing was said…
@@BilboBegginz my ex fiance is anesthesiologist. He had partial custody of his little boy. And every time he had the kid over and couldn't handle him not sleeping or didn't want to bother babysitting him he would give the 3 year old Benadryl even if he wasn't sick. I found that sus.
@jubileej1629 I had an abusive father and life was hell until my 18th birthday... if I can give you an advice is to not telling him or any other family members you will leave : never. You deserve a life on your own and be happy
I met a humble doctor once around 10 years back, the one and only time I can remember finding a doctor who had a heart, we sat in a room with a lady who was actively dying, me on a chair, him on his black, leather doctors equipment case, it was a moment of serenity, a rare occasion, never forgotten.
I once held a lady who was on her last breath, she was very old and obviously dying. She was in the hospital bed next to me and she was my friends mother, over 95 years old. She thought I was an angel to come and take her to heaven, so I said yes and to rest as she was safe and I will not leave her. She laid back as she was desperately trying to sit up, but had the “death rattle” breathing that I knew very well. She passed peacefully and I went back to my bed as the doctor appeared in the foyer and was about to come to the bay. To my utter disgust he then tried to take blood test from her, I could hear him slapping her arm and saying that he needed to go get another needle as he was getting any success. So I calmly walked out to him and the nurse at the desk behind him and said “ just thought I’d let you know that the reason why you aren’t getting any blood is because this sweet dear woman had passed away in my arms about ten minutes ago”…. He looked stunned and I looked at him disgusted. I am just glad that I was there. Her daughter was a medium and I went to see her some months later for a visit and she said straight away when I hugged her “thank you so much for comforting my mother, she told me you were there “…. I said she was not alone and that it was very peaceful… obviously I didn’t tell her the rest. No way. This was in George Eliot Hospital in UK.
@@ninidini8001 I had my daughter at the George Elliot in 1985, was a good experience though, apart from the antenatal part, they were seriously cruel to me because I had wanted a home birth and was labeled a ‘trouble maker’, I don’t think all doctors are bad, just some of them are. What a special moment you spent with that lady who passed, it’s a privilege to be there to see someone on their way home to the place of eternal peace and I’m sorry you had to witness the doctor not being as good as he should have, how on earth was he oblivious to the fact that she was no longer there 😔
@@ninidini8001 > Her daughter was a medium and I went to see her some months later for a visit and she said straight away when I hugged her “thank you so much for comforting my mother, she told me you were there “ What a load of bollocks.
I worked for over 15 yrs for world renowned Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons in Santa Barbara, Scottsdale and Rancho Mirage. I can attest that everything this man is saying is absolutely true regarding narcissistic medical providers! And, it's ultimately why I left the field completely demoralized and disheartened by every aspect of the American Medical INDUSTRY!
The difference in how my doctor behaved when I took a friend to an appointment with me was quite mind blowing. Very polite and attentive. Try it for yourselves folks.
I went with a friend when he was trying to suggest changing his single medication with his first Psychiatrist. He'd seen him a few times before. We chatted with a young Doc in residency there and he seemed interested in things like psychoanalysis when asked. Then the Doctor arrived, my friend cited his side effects with his medicine and just asked openly for a different prescription of the Doctor's choosing. But he made a crucial mistake, and very gently asked the Doctor if he had ever tried the drug he just prescribed. The meeting lasted about 2 minutes and the doctor immediately raised his voice, offered no explanation or conversation, called my buddy crazy and kicked him out and and told him don't come back. Bringing a friend to an appointment will give you some protection, but Narcissism is hair triggered, and stupid.
I actually have a very awesome doctor as my GP right now. Best doctor I’ve ever had. Super humble and sweet and so kind. My husband and I actually switched our health insurance to make sure we had him as our GP. But yeah, they’re few and far between. I worked as a healthcare admin and can attest that most doctors are horrible, so egotistical, and they believe they know everything about every subject ever. I actually have a Masters in Painting, but I had these doctors in our office explaining art to me as if I had no knowledge of art. Because how could I know anything about a subject? I was a poor and not a doctor.
Thank you Professor Sam, for bringing light to this situation. I am retired from nursing, and forensic autopsy assistant. I recently had a snot-nosed young doctor, try to gas light, through bullying and demeaning conversation; push me to take a certain medication, that has been proven to do more harm than good. Also taking this medication along with my lupus and all of the complications that come with it, would amount to increasing my symptoms, and over a short period of time would eventually kill me. In my eyes he is not a medical physician, he is a medical monkey, that has found a great attraction to pushing medications that give the doctor a fantastic kickback from the pharmaceutical companies.
Yep! I had a doctor put me on water pills for high blood pressure. My "high" blood pressure was 135/75, he put me on it because he wanted me to be "under 130". The first (which was also the last) dose that I took ruined my whole weekend. I had to cancel a hiking trip because they made me feel horrible. Instead of going hiking, I sat around all weekend feeling like total crap. I also did some research on what constitutes high blood pressure. I ghosted that doctor and made a formal complaint against him for malpractice. If the complaint ever came to anything, I never heard. It really taught me something about just believing what you're told and letting a doctor order you around. If you want to piss off a doctor, tell him that he doesn't order you around and anything he says to you is a recommendation only. Too many doctors forget who works for who.
Happened to me too, an " doctor " wanted to give me mental health medications because I'm anxious, by telling that he did an video conference with another doctos and all of them told him that I'm mentally ill 😂😂😂😂😂 son of a bitch.... Trying to make me become sick, by taking medication without having anything.
Holy crapppp. ❤❤❤❤❤ 4:20 Not one doctor I have ever spoken to has this kind of humility or respect and my lord thank you for being the first person in nearly 40 years on this planet to say that. Which sadly speaks volumes for where we are at - but gives me great hope for our future. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I've noticed this for years. I've only known maybe 2 doctors who were actually not a Know-It-All pompous prick! They have such a God-Complex, its utterly and disgustingly so groteque
I'm so glad someone is addressing the rampant rise of narcissism/sociopathy in medicine and the *danger* it presents - not to mention their prevalence in government , education , the Justice $ystem/legal field , policing , big business , media , and the population in general .
Narcissistic medical doctors (and some nurses) seem to be particularly vicious toward patients with incurable chronic illnesses. These patients face gaslighting on a monumental scale. And, patients with conditions which cause chronic or intractable moderate to severe pain are treated the worst.
Can you give us an example? I'm an HCA and I saw one woman in excruciating agony with gallstones ignored, I have a preternatural ability to see a faintly luminous, almost pure white 'death mask' on some patients and begged the nurses to call the pain team but they ignored me and they ignored her and she went into cardiac arrest and died, no attempt was made to resuscitate her.
I work in healthcare and will add that they are also among the greediest people I have even met. Money rivals their narcissism as motivating factor for being in the profession.
This is true! I also worked in healthcare. We would get students rotating in from the large, famous university hospital next door. Sitting in staff meetings before the meeting start they would talk among themselves - and the conversations usually revolved around all the money they would make and the lifestyle they would lead and/or whether the road to riches would/could (hopefully) include inventing a new medical device which would then bring in a stream of money so they then didn’t have to work as a doctor! Very few were working toward entering the profession in order to help people - but there were a few. Those few stand out in my memory years later.
So true. I have one of the good doctors for my GP. But I feel sorry for him. I don't know how he does it I must get a card off to him before he finally passes away or retires. My first boyfriend love of my life became a psychologist and it took a long long time but he basically threw me under the bus after asking me to marry him at 16 I was being abused at home and he expected me to wait 15 years until he would finally go into business for himself and then it backfired on him because he took a really lousy job as a prison psychologist wouldn't listen to me as I told him he was not cut out for that. It changed him it ruined his life but he ruined mine too. He was selfish and he was greedy. His mother warned me one time that he was selfish like his father who was also a doctor.
This is why it’s so important that people start to empower themselves more en masse and break out of this centuries long spell society is under where they hand over total authority over their bodies to these people I believe
@@christinakuczora4862That goes on in the psychology field and therapists can be just as bad and only there for the money. It’s scary because some of them don’t care at all about actually learning how to help people and think they know it all already. I studied art therapy and there were a few people there whom I would be scared to know were acting as therapists. One of them I know personally and had to block him his insanity was next level and now he runs ayahuasca ceremonies, and thinks he’s a shaman. Terrifying
Let me share my friend's story of meeting a narc doctor. He was in a life threatening situation when his aortal aneurysm started to diassect. He called emergency and went to the nearest hospital. There, in enormous pain and suffering, he was treated with painkillers. But all in all, doctor did not believe him. He had a supposition that my friend was under the influence of illegal substances and was confabulating and talking nonsense. Even after examination ruled that out the narc didn't change his view. In the meantime my friend's aorta was tearing apart. So the narc doctor was talking with my friend and the following conversation happened: - So, how are you feeling? - Im scared... I know I have a condition that can cause internal bleeding and death if not treated. I am afraid that this is happening. You never know... It's like waiting for a heart attack to happen! - I had a heart attack and I’m alive. End of conversation. He was not punished despite my friend loosing his kidney as a direct result of insufficient blood flow into kidney vessels (it was blocked by damage to aorta). Not to mention his chances of survival dropped from 40% to 5% because of the incompetence of narc doctor. God forbid you meet anyone like that in your life.
OMG that is a cruel and condescending doctor who used a classic gaslighting response. It is so f-up. I told my mother in-law that her grandson tried to commit suicide and her response was “Lots of people try to commit suicide.” 😮 No wonder her son (my husband) has no feelings. Similar to the response that this jerk doctor gave to your poor friend. 😢
I’m not surprised at all . My ex boyfriend almost died from an untreated cancerous tumour on his spine. He was 15 , his dad had taken him to their Dr repeatedly because he was in excruciating severe pain . The doctor would say oh it’s just growing pains ! He felt the Dr thought he was drug seeking . When he finally woke up paralysed one morning and rushed to the emergency department they said without surgery he probably had 3 days to live . Doctors are so hyper vigilant about ”drug seekers” it’s ridiculous. God forbid you are ever in excruciating pain and some jerk doctor doesn’t like the look of you
My father is a doctor (and an a**hole), and he had an aortic dissection in his early 50s. He was in the hospital at the time, had some imaging done on his heart, and was told that he had aortic regurgitation. He told them that he had a dissection and they told him that he did not- that he just had a damaged heart value. A week later my father ordered his own imaging procedures and confirmed that he had had a dissection. He was air lifted to another hospital for surgery and they said there was basically a 100% mortality rate for someone in his condition. 20 years later my father is still alive (and still an a**hole, btw). I actually really like my doctor, but there are many who have their heads so far up their own butts that they won’t even listen to other physicians.
Im a doctor,graduated from Russian university but ima foreign student. I dated one. with time his behaviour got worse.He was not who i thought. Brutal.
Consider what society offers doctors: reputation, money, and power. When individuals are given too much extrinsic value, they can become entitled. Consequently, the motivation to become a doctor has shifted from helping people to acquiring these values. we are all human beings, and no one is superior to others
@charlesdarwin5185 What you need to reflect on is the education system in USA. Doing a degree before medical school is a waste of time and money. It doesn't make their doctors better than doctors who don't have an extra degree in other countries in terms of professional skills and clinical experience.
Had this experience with a pediatrician.. ended up with him calling CPS on me and him eventually losing his place on the county board of pediatrics and loss of his practise.. all because I refused his nonsensical treatment plan for my daughter.. even after being berated, threatened, and raged at.. No sir. We are not playing games with my child. I laughed when I recieved the letter that I had been fired as one of his patients..
Same thing happened to a relative! Dr prescribed a toxic antibiotic, patient demurred. The next day my relative received an email ‘firing’ her as a patient 😦
I fired a dr last year and she tried to send me a certified letter firing me! I sent one back and said I’ll be using that retaliatory letter to file a board complaint and not to harass me ever again. Messed with the wrong person!
This is the best description , by a highly qualified,and most enlightened Professional, Professor Vaknin...of the entire Medical Profession! Thank you Professor! I am a Patient/Victim, of these Dr's, and can verify, and support every word Prof. Vaknin is saying here! They are a most Arrogant bunch of people! WELl SAID Professor! And a million thanks for your own series on Narcissim, you have vindicated my entire life battle to survive in a family of Narcissists! You are lifting the weight of false blame,and false guilt,off me at last..I'm 77 yrs old! God Bless you! VR.
My narcissist mother was a medical doctor. Hadn't thought much of how she was acting at work but knew she had multiple conflicts during those years. Not suprised why.
Finally someone had the courage to tell the truth. This something that we have experiencied and have known our entire lives. Thank you Prof. Vaknin!!!😮
Wow this video came at the right time. I recorded my session with the psychiatrist with his permission. I thought that if they knew I was recording, they would tone down the gaslighting. Nope! I record to improve myself, but when I listened a second time to listen to the psychiatrist, I am wrecked. These people take your boundaries as a challenge. Telling them your weakness and your boundaries is like telling them where to shoot for maximum damage.
@jeanetteschauerman908 I did too. I have a lot of gaslighting on record. Guess what? Nobody cares. So that's why I asked this one's permission, hoping he would tone down. He was dog whistling the whole time.
They are capable of doing great, great damage. I know from experience, and am dealing with a vicious psych doc right now. I have to see him because I cannot find anyone else. He is a really, really mean human being, to say the least.
@@lunasinger8702 I suggest recording him with his permission. The are protected by the system so complaining will result into more gaslighting and trauma. Playing back the recording will prevent you gaslighting yourself. To keep your sanity, if you will.
They discovered how to manipulate those in distress, consumed by their own desire to assert dominance during your darkest moments. You're left feeling humiliated and manipulated when you need compassion the most.
The kids I knew in high school who wanted to be doctors only talked about how much money they would make. Not a word about helping or healing or improving people's life.
@@lunasinger8702the people attracted to the field are not the ones with the skills to help patients. They do it for the prestige. People who would make wonderful physicians are not attracted to this field.
And dentists! In my long life I’ve had the misfortune already to come across greedy, dishonest and incompetent doctors, veterinarians and dentists.😪 Online reviews are often not truthful or reliable.
To add some levity to the conversation, around 20 minutes in, the video cut out because it was interrupted by an advertisement for a major US hospital's cardiology unit with scenes of doctors performing a surgery, and then cut back in with Sam saying, "See what I mean?" I laughed out loud.
As someone who has been doing some time in grippy sock jail, I can confirm that biggest difference between staff and patients in mental hospitals is that staff wears name tags on them.
This could explain why the 3 brilliant, caring doctors I have had in my life 'retired ' early....they couldn't cope with their narc colleagues? The last one, I watched became more withdrawn for months beforehand.
I’m a physician (anesthesiology resident) and to be honest, it’s true. Every reasonable physician I know knows it’s true. However, I’d like to add that not everybody in medicine is a narcissist or a psychopath - the problem is that those who have the greatest power are. It’s a very hierarchical, very competitive community and guess what type of personalities thrive in it 😉
@@LadyhawksLairDotCom If one anaesthesiologist attempts to stand up against the narcissists, what do you think will happen? He will not win, will have to find another profession and we will be minus an anaesthesiologist! That’s not a good outcome!
People who don't speak up are cowards. By 2030, it's estimated that 50% of all doctors will be replaced by technology. After all, a doctor is useless without technology. No one should have to ask permission to get a CTA scan or blood work, for example. I should be able to pay for what ever tests I want done without a doctor's permission.
If you want to go that way , then how about mothers and parents who are narcissistic! How about government employees who work in government offices , or the hairstylists who talk behind your back and ridicule and gives you the wrong haircut! So I mean everybody in all departments could be narcissistic, but doctors hold your health and life in their hands and you are vulnerable.
@@light-yi2me maybe you don't have children, but I can guarantee you that giving a child an unwarranted autism spectrum diagnosis or ADHD diagnosis can ruin their lives. In Europe and Scandinavia they aren't allowed to educate themselves for certain jobs like police, military etc. Then there is the very real possibility that they will have the rights to managing and controlling their own money and finances removed from them, placing it in the hands of the government/state, not to mention the stigma of being unable to be taught or learn properly. I think that makes it much worse than a hairstylist. Could be parents and government workers are also in positions of power, but teachers pray on the ignorance and gullibility of the parents to get away with deciding who has a future and who doesn't. Hair grows back, usually, btw.
Yes, I am trained to be a school counselor sadly, I haven't been working for so long in this field due to the toxicity in the educational system, I just can't go along with Bs they are brainwashing children with, and that evil diagnosis, smh. Once they label a child with it, it is impossible to challenge it, propose a different approach, option, no way - it's written, case closed, you are going to be scapegoated along with that poor kid. Unfortunately, parents don't care, it's like nobody cares, and everyone just need a scapegoat. It's a narc world.
@@SlavicGirl. Thank you for your insight. This has been my experience too, but looking from the outside in as a parent and educator. Hopefully this can be discussed and discovered if we keep daring to uncover the truth.
@@WalburgisLuppus wow, happy to see like minded approach to this extremely important matter! I could write a book about it. I feel completely alienated when I try to came across, point out the seriousness of what is happening to children and youth inside of this so called " educational system"
@@VerschwörungsPraktikerRomans 1:25-26 NLT [25] They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. [26] That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires.
Oh my…I have recently discovered this with a physician assistant. A dermatologist. I get it now. Thanks for this video. I sought a second opinion and as a one year resident, she concurred with the physician assistant. The pa was confirmed by the second opinion. All medications have not worked after two years. A one year resident has only book knowledge and no experience, I told the pa, which irritated the heck out of her, thinking that I was discrediting the profession. It is the truth. Now I will seek another more compassionate and experienced doctor. Thank you again.
I am 57 years old. I have been hurt my entire life more by the medical establishment by far and away, than any other field. Been misdiagnosed countless times. Been placed on medicines that was poison and habit forming. This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen! Thank you!
I’m 57 too and have had the same experience as you. The medical field really sucks! Filled with sadistic, know it all, condescending narcissistic pieces of work! Not to mention their greed & corruption. They merely work for big pharma as sales representative. They have no knowledge of health, just unnatural toxic chemicals that damages the body even further. I hate them with a passion!
Sam, you are speaking the truth! I have such medical trauma. I have gotten 2 procedures done that caused permanent damage. I am so scared of them. They treated me like an animal to slaughter. Never cared I was in pain. Very scary.
I had the unfortunate experience of having a Dr I'd had more than 35 YEARS retire... & the one who took his place I INSTANTLY DIDN'T LIKE.... THOUGHT HE COULD FORCE ME INTO A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY HOSPITALIZATION TO FORCE ME TO COMPLY!!!... ***I TOLD HIM TO GO TO HELL & WALKED OUT!!!*** Those same office assistants & nurses I'd had wonderful rapore with for decades chased after me... I apologized to them, but told them I wouldn't be back.... I'm DONE!!! "What he's doing is NOT medicine... it's manipulation to exert his preceived DICTATORSHIP POSITION!!!" They hung their heads, but knodded... I left, & I've never been back....🎯❣️
Lost my job as a radiologist at a Longview Texas hospital for whistleblowing activity against 3 elderly radiologists that would change bad peer reviews of their misdiagnosis then threaten any junior partners that tried to get them to go to the nonpunitive quality control board at the hospital. (All the multidisciplinary quality control board does is examine the occurrence and how to prevent it from happening again). The embarrassment it causes the narcissist is unbearable and they would never submit to any criticism they could control. 2 of my friends lost their lives to these narcissist physicians and I lost my job fighting for my patients. The kicker is the Texas Medical Board would not touch them. One of their "pack of narcissist doctors is the daughter of a 3 time senator. I'm glad to know the TMB isn't swayed by politics...cough, cough. Gang stalking to protect their ill gotten gains is a common method of these packs of physicians that will stoop to any level to protect their lucrative contracts.
IMHO the medical/pharmaceutical industry has broken the social contract with the rest of us. It has become a situation of "You will pay and pay or you will suffer and/or die." It's no different than being shaken down at gunpoint by a street mugger.
I'm so sorry! I'm a whistle blower type person too. Can I ask exactly how your job ended? Did the hospital fire you abruptly without saying any reasons?
@@sweetbeep Good day, the group was a private practice that contracted with the hospital. Hospital wasn't involved in the coverups til after I was pushed out. I was using the hospital's peer review process which was a joke
I have a medically fragile son with intellectual disability who is an adult now. We've had to visit with quite a few specialists. This is all absolutely true and my son does have permanent and profound struggles due to a few certain professionals.
I used to visit a gynecologist who invented a story right on the spot about my condition which was of course far from the truth and completely hilarious. She didnt believe my words so much she kept convincing me to try to remember cleeearly and honestly :) I come to doctors not to hear stories but to receive treatment and get advice.
This is one of the most insidious secrets of the health industry, and anyone who has worked among / "under" them in a hospital can tell you it's one of the least healthy environments for the workers' mental health, and docs *do* protect each other... The administrators usually aren't far behind, or they have great hoover/handler skills to keep the narcs happy.😂
I had a really good podiatrist when I had a tendon tear, he was the exact opposite of this description, what a blessing that was. He listened to my concerns, when I asked him how will I know that the tear is really healed and if I could get a second MRI to check. He said that in medicine they usually just assumed that it is healed once symptoms disappeared but if I really wished we could do a second MRI, but it is expensive. He basically admitted that sometimes they just assume and that my wish to want proof was valid and he would make arrangements if I really wanted it. He then gave me a free ultrasound, doesn't provide the same imaging but he did it for free and said if I wanted the MRI too I could get it. What a great doctor. I was very lucky. Dr. Driscol in Oregon, I will never forget :)
As someone who really has a bad opinion of doctors I have to say podiatrists seem to be a different breed almost, all of the ones I know through my parents needing podiatric care, have been amazing and surprisingly open minded, one of them is very open in questioning the pharmaceutical industry etc and has a lot interesting cutting edge medical related magazines in the waiting room (with very controversial criticism of certain established "treatments")
@@pamelapamper this is entirely possible, they might be a different type. I did see a second podiatrist before him and she also said not to take drugs if it's not necessary.. that's great and very interesting to hear :)
As a graduate medical student, I have just come to accept this is the norm. It's a tragic reality. I don't feel the medical profession deserves the respect society feels it gives to us.
Still remember everyone telling me "oh are u a doctor to make that sort of decision" when I refused to get the sh0t. No, I just have a functioning brain.
Every doctors appointment should be filmed and placed on the cloud to be reviewed if malpractice is claimed. The narcissist will lie at a whim and deceive any investigator.
You're allowed to record your own doctors appointments. If you feel there's a likelihood that you'll be mistreated, lied to, or gaslighted, make an audio recording while you're there.
Also every procedure. I was harmed during a spinal tap and I don't think it was on accident. He was either angry or having a bad day and kept twisting the needle around and injured my nerves. I'm now permanently disabled and most people didn't believe me, so I didn't sue.
You're very right Sam. I had a p$ychiatrist who gave me permanent side effects with medications I never needed for a misdiagnosis, and he laughed at me about it. This is what we're dealing with. Evil narcissists/psychopaths who don't care. I work at a hospital and the medical doctors seem pretty cool. However, I will never forget all the things I've learned about the system from p$ychiatry.
Misdiagnosis goes on a lot and doctors have a deal with pharmaceutical companies who offer free holidays in the Bahamas for their families for whoever prescribed the most medication. It goes on in psychiatry as well. SO many people think they have a mental illness and are on drugs for illness they don’t even have
Only the thing about the medical industry is they don't remove root causes. I'm so sorry about what that horrible doctard did to you. Maybe there are some natural healing methods for your health consequences?
Thank you for making this video It is so refreshing to hear someone say what we have all felt, particularly coming from someone in healthcare themselves Often people in healthcare cover for each other and intend to make you feel like you are a difficult patient or over-reacting, then they gaslight you about your symptoms and lack of medical knowledge
I had a surgery at the 'Mayo Clinic' and before the surgery the Dr. said to me, ''When you wake up you may be calling me 'God';'...I froze,, it was right before the surgery so I felt I couldn't back out...When I woke up I 'Did not call him God', the surgery he did on me went terribly wrong. What you are saying Prof. Sam Vaknin is so true.
I'm 73 now and agree totally with everything you've said. My wife is a RN who had a almost 40 year career in emergency medicine. She worked with and got to know hundreds of MDs during her time and knew most of them as a mother would know her children. I've been lucky to have had a few good doctors, one was a older man who who would listen intently to what I was saying and would even admit knowledge lacking in a certain area and then say, let me go look that up and I'll be back (pre-internet). Thank you for sharing this absolutely correct information.
I dated a Surgeon who had narcissistic tendencies. You are right. He had God complex. He was miserable that I was enjoying my weekend and he was on call. He gaslighted and devalued me. Not capable of having a serious conversation. He will just walk away. He was emotionally manipulative and controlling.
I am so glad this topic is addressed by prof. Vaknin Sadly my experience supports his observation. From lack of compassion to cruelty … I observed such range of attitudes in my female primary care physician.
Don’t be fooled - women physicians are just as bad as the men doctors. I had one lie about my thyroid test results - found out the next year when I visited the office and new doctor stated there were no records anywhere of a thyroid test being run the year before! I suffered several years with low thyroid symptoms before being properly treated. HMO’s were just becoming popular and I am surmising my original doctor was looking to save them money - many financially rewarded doctors at the end of the year who ran the least tests and provided the least procedures and services. Have greatly wised up in the intervening years. AND I always ask for a hard copy of any test results. Same goes for when my dog needs veterinary attention/tests.
Their i.q. is around 120, but when they lack sleep or have some other problems, it’s more like 60. The problem is there’s no objective party monitoring them.
I had a pastor for 5 years & looking back, he was a narcissist & he prevented young men in the ministry of starting new churched in this church I was in, wanted everyone to come to his church!!
A dentist stabbed through my healthy molar while mocking my suffering while he was doing it, I wasn't aware of it at the time because I was just trying to survive the pain. Eventually over the years after my tooth fell apart I thought back to that moment when he was mocking me while I was in excruciating pain and I realized what he was doing.
I'm a 74 year old single male. Until I was in my late forty's I had absolutely no contact with the medical system and after a very bad work accident I approached it with the naive thought that " If your hurt or sick a doctor was the person to see". Well, let me tell you I had no idea of what was to come and it has had an affect to this day, soul destroying. I really thought that there was something about my personality that would trigger an angry or unhelpful response to my questions. After watching this video I now totally understand and, I thank you. I must state that I have also found some Doctors and only some that are a credit to their profession and I'm extremely grateful.
Wow! Such honesty! Very well thought-out and well-spoken. Most bow down to narcissistic white coats no matter how much harm they cause. Thank you for this rare video.
All of my family has White Coat Syndrome and they think Im absolutely insane for not always seeing a doctor for a small injury or illness...Doctors are just salesman for Big Pharma....all they know how to do is sell you very invasive pills or surgeries. It seems to me, the more you go to the doctor, the worse you get. I saw my grandparents become "yes men" for their doctors getting endless surgeries and taking endless amounts of opiates and other junk pills. I will always look for a natural way to help any ailments I have. Dont go to the doctors unless you wanna be treated like a walking checkbook. Even my dentist would wanna up-sell me on a very minimal chip in my front tooth, didnt even notice it until he stuck a big camera in front of my mouth. Dude Im here for a cleaning. Stop up-selling me like a car dealership.
I'm from a family of doctor's; any point of view I have is considered stupid and irrelevant; needless to say as a person with a curious and investigative nature, and a lifetime of challenging experiences, I have had to go 'no contact' for my very stability.
Professor, you are absolutely right! Now I understand why some of the doctors I have seen along the years have given me the wrong treatment and wouldn't listen to me or would tell me that I was wrong about my symptoms. Thank you very much for this enlightening video!
I worked for a covert narcissist doctor and let me tell you all.. this man was something else.. it's like giving this big responsability to a kid that just want to play and feed his fantasy.. work is just a game for them they don't give a shit about the profession, the patients or the principles they just want to play pretend. One of the most traumatizing things that I keep still from my experience is them asking me a random question out of no where "are you able to kill someone" I didn't know at that time who he is and what was behind that question but later on when I started to pick on his behavior and actions I understood that he was projecting on me one of his darkest secret through that question, he was never correct, no morality, no principles, he is a criminal .. what a shame that such creatures manage to have such noble position and abuse it..
I've been stabbed in the back by many a doctor because at times I simply don't give a damn about speaking up or complaining. I've known of GP's, a Maxillo facial surgeon, psychiatrist, dentists exactly how you're describing; absolutely vile people. I have notes written about me due to my complaining, treated in a passive aggressive manner, humiliated, assaulted, lied to, had letters passed around (which I'd asked to be destroyed) in order to create deformation about me. I record every single appointment I attend, and I encourage anyone else to do so because they will gaslight the crap out of you and they live up one another's arse, there's no question about it.
My classmates father, the esteemed surgeon, hanged himself with a dog leash and left suicide notes hidden around his house blaming his family and others. They were finding them for years.
Typical. At what point do we have to ask, "is the service they provide worth the Hellfire of Destruction that they cause for those closest to them?" The trauma they cause is a cancer that spreads at rate most couldn't possibly comprehend
I don't believe most people realize how true what this man is saying is. I am in my 60's, and my life has been ruined by surgeons. And they all cover for each other and are the most arrogant people that exist. It is really tough to fight for one's rights with these people, but life is a battle.
Needed this. Been hardcore doubting myself recently after years of confusing and borderline abusive experiences in mental health settings. Finally accepted I have a cluster of mental issues half from trauma and half innate. There isnt one quick easy fix. Many doctors want to find "the one true diagnosis" and require you to only focus on that, otherwise you are difficult. I fell into that mindset for too long while following their lead. It takes repeated effort to get a handle on one's issues, not a one off appointment.
I would like to add that sometimes, doctors, and psychatrists, can be the victims of their over-specialisation (Not that the prof is wrong about narcissistic gas lighting doctors, but not all of them are). For example, my mother was all of a sudden, getting sweating at the back of her neck, following a stroke, and 3 doctors saw her at emergency. She was diagnosed with low electrolytes (which means salt in human speak) and was prescribed Gator Aid (nothing but salt/electrolytes) as a cure. They came to this conclusion, after I told them that I had cut salt from her diet, because salt is known to raise blood pressure, which is regularly not recommended after a stroke. My mother also took hormones (premarin) for 40 years after a hysterectomy. Those were discontinued after her stroke. The sweating continued, in spite of the Gator Aid. At the time, I was going through menopause, and getting plenty of hot flashes, so I put 2 and 2 together, and tought that this could be what was wrong with my mother. She also mentioned, that she had never had menopause symptoms, or hot flashes before, she had stoped taking premarin (hormones) . I went to her regular doctor with this information, and she actually agreed with my diagnosis. We also discussed, if there was ever a study made, has to what happens to women's blood pressure during a hot flash. There isn't one. I have asked several other doctors, including her stroke specialist, if they recalled seeing a study on blood pressure fluctuations during a hot flash, and they all said no. Last year, I spoke to a doctor, getting a test for a very soar throath, to be sure I did not have strep, (it wasen't) I asked him about menopause symptoms, (they last more than 10 years by the way) and to his recollection, he had never seen a study on a women's blood pressure during a hot flash. Women are still underserved by the medical profession it seems.
I'm in the psychology profession and went back to school for osteopathic medicine and holistic nutrition just for this reason, to care for and educate my own family, self and work as a consultant for families of special needs infants. I was in an accident and a new 28 yr old ER doctor wanted to do a spinal tap for a concussion, his reasoning was that he needed to figure out why I have a headache, a new primary care prescribed a medication that "works best for my race", I didn't have the need for it, my blood pressure was high due to pain, I reported him to my insurance company. Another was trying to force four unnecessary medications for low hormonal levels that two foods regulated, my mother had bilateral vascular surgery on her neck and takes the same medications. I was diagnosed with breast and bladder cancer and miraculously, it disappeared after I stood my ground and alerted my doctor that I'll be starting my clinicals soon so I won't be available for testing and treatments. Dr., you are absolutely correct about their mental health, I spent 10 years of 12 hours shifts on crisis units with them, I don't scare easy -they scared me.
This is spot on! Had it not been for my research on breast cancer 21 years ago when first diagnosed, I certainly would have had a worse outcome. (my pathology indicated 30 % increased chance of being bilateral) A male surgeon blew off this concern I shared. I did not give up. A female surgeon listened and found another micro tumor on opposite breast.
Very true! Thanks for expose them. Always I noticed it. Most of the health workers are lack of empathy. Many of my family members (by mother and father side) are narcissists and work for the health system. I have years of no contact. I feel sorry for their patients. People need to open their eyes. The history don’t lie. Experiments or clinical trials are examples of their cruelty.
Did you ever think about why you chose the career path you did, or what you thought about and considered desireable at various ages? Sometimes I consider various jobs and imagine myself in that position, and there are many paths I never gave a second thought.For some time, I considered being a vet, having a connection with animals since I was a kid; I started a Psych degree in college, which I became quickly discouraged with.Listening to instructors, I realized how subjective a field it was, full of what I saw as dangerous generalizations and misunderstandings.NFN, over half a century, I've met 2 or 3 great doctors, - and a hundred barely competent to terrible ones.
Thank you Sam! Wish I had this information years back. It's too late for me now, the damage was done, but it's not too late for others ! This information is precious and life saving. I hope many will listen carefully and take your good advice.
I once had a surgeon telling me, if i didnt want my salival glands removed because the scars would affect my pretty face... He was telling me that while smirking at me like a psycho. The guy wanted to hurt and mutilate me real bad
I wish I’d known this before I got a job as a healthcare admin. I thought working with doctors would be an upgrade from working with lawyers as a paralegal. Boy was I wrong! They’re manipulative and have a god complex. And it’s constant Kafka traps of gaslighting. But my family was so thrilled that I had a “good job” with benefits, they encouraged me to stay despite the intense depression and anxiety I was experiencing. I do not recommend that anyone ever work in the healthcare admin industry. They only respect other doctors, they will let you know on the daily many times a day that you are beneath them, and they don’t respect you.
You have put into prose what I have barely dared to think for decades, and my path is becoming narrower. It was poetry to my ears. I will change my clinician without making a song and dance about it.
Sadistic for sure. Head of psychology in a mental clinic told me i just "imagined" my childhood s*xual abuse. Got out real fast. Neurologist for another assessment sat and LAUGHED at me and said the wildest most incorrect things about the thing I was trying to get assessed for. Ran out of there. I've heard a lot of wicked stories like that especially from the field of psychology. Oh, also ran into a vet like that. Spoke publically about our experiences and they tried to financially ruin us with a bill that we had already paid. Sent reminders and a financial organization after us.
I’ve dealt with a narcissist before. They are an absolute nightmare. The damage they can cause in even a short period of time is astonishing and very disturbing. Learn the red flags. I’ve noticed a rise in narcissistic behaviour. I’m an epileptic. I’ve had some not very kind doctors and nurses. I’ve endured the same with a few paramedics. I hate it when I have seizure in public, I never know how I’m going to be treated when I’m taken into the ER. Not many truly listened and that includes some neurologists. In all of the years that I’ve had epilepsy, only one doctor read my epilepsy journal. He read it all. He listened.
I am one of those patients, harmed and not listened to. My husband is now gone by end of life meds against my will. I am destroyed. I wholeheartedly thank you for your video. I agree with it all. I have experience of everything you say. However, the healthcare in my country is broken, and we are not able to just walk out and choose another opinion. Many are not even able to register with any doctor due to the shortage of the medical proffession after the lockdowns. I have walked away from the medics and thrown away any meds. I now look after myself and feel much better without the drugs and my body is slowly recovering on its own. Drs do not listen.
Definitely. About 8 years ago I got extremely sick and went to the doctor. I was sure with the symptoms I had that it was lyme disease. I spent 2 years with local doctors I was imaging it and was given Valium to "calm down". I was mostly bed bound so I decided to move to another state and went to a lyme literate doctor who took blood work and found I had active borelia, babesia and rocky mountain spotted fever. I almost died several times. I am permanently damaged neurologically, have damage to one eye and fatigued 24/7. I brought the results back to my original doctor and she just said, well you got medicine so you're fine now.
Im so sorry. I had Lyme improperly treated for a year. They wont listen. Check Kris Kristofferson. They thought he had dementia… it was Lyme and Babesia. When you are bit by a tick that gives you Lyme- it is nearly always giving you something else also.Best Wishes.
"Lyme Literate Doctors" are basically con men. They diagnose *everyone* with the same conditions. You probably don't even have Lyme, but instead something else.
While on Medicaid, I had a doctor tell me that she wouldn't renew my medication I'd been taking for years because she felt I had been "rude" to her. She would still see me and prescribe other medications (which IMO were ineffective), but not that one. Even after she left the clinic, the other doctors there refused to prescribe me that medication, because "Dr Howard is a colleague of mine."
Right on Sam. Thank you so much for this. I've had a lifetime of dealing with doctors that don't listen and aggressively gaslight and punish the patient for not abiding in ther BS.
So how it is going to be if the wife of the narcissistic doctor got sick .. it is a life long crime, i have hundreds of strange cases that I couldn't understand at that time when i suffered from my husband's medical opinion about my health .. to the unbelievable extreeme ... this video makes all sense .. OMG - the medical gaslighting was his non stop strategy .. it is important to talk about the status of the partner of the medical doctor
Profesor i salute 🫡 you because you are extremely brave to bring this important subject to the public because no one has the guts to bring this to the light i highly respect you . Thank you 😊
Relief to hear this podcast. My mother was destroyed by psych and osych drugs. Thankyou mr vankin. She was forced to endure ect. It destroyed her brain. Why. Why. I dont know why.
I am a medic and I hated working in my profession for this very reason. I was appalled at how some doctors treated patients, secretaries and colleagues. I retired early. And you are right- they do protect each other. I would say the same about solicitors.
Do you have an opinion on what happened in 2020-2021 during lockdowns and the medical profession you’d care to share?
I think there’s been a LOT of gaslighting that went on and is still going on within that field especially with vaccine injured
@@philippagrimoire5968i will be totally honest and say I don't know. I did get 3 vaccines myself. Medicine is not a perfect science and that applies to all areas of medicine and surgery. My fear is that this is only the first of other possible pandemics. Viruses are always mutating and we can't keep up with this.
Solicitor as in UK lawyer?
@@annettehunter9743 viruses are always popping up within a few miles of a gain of function research site.
As a nurse practitioner, a nurse who practices as a physician, I saw two fascinating things. Doctors protect each other at all costs while nurses tend to undermine each other. Both dysfunctional in opposite ways.
I dated one. Can confirm this; it was the worst experience of my life
It took me some time to realise what was wrong with him. Its been 3 years since we broke up, and he still tries to manipulate and hoover me back.
He is an awful person, the most selfcentered and cold-hearted I have ever met, hiding it all behind a facade of 'the good doctor'
Watch the series on show case Dr Death.
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I can echo this
Retired RN here. 40 years of working with many narcissistic, dangerous medical professionals. The general public has no idea how many mistakes are swept “ under the rug “ by narcissists. I’m so glad to be out of the profession.
Sounds like that could be a great and much needed book
Ur an accomplice....
They also take liberties with patients. My grandmother was a nurse and proudly told me about what they did to certain patients they didn't like in surgery. People should think twice about having any procedure done that isn't absolutely necessary. Stay out of the hospital and you'll likely live longer in the long run.
You should of reported them. Shame on you. U could of anonymous sent them to police and maybe hospital management. Yes you could of. I'm a nurse
@@chrispaul1117 … I reported many. I stopped an inebriated anesthesiologist from performing surgery. The American Medical Association and State Boards of Nursing, along with the unions protect many unsafe workers.
I endured incredible abuse by two psychiatrists. They nearly killed me
That's a catastrophe😢
I hate you went through that! My narc father is a psychologist. It was hell on earth. I hope you are doing better now. I know therapy could probably help me but I am terrified of being gaslit by a therapist.
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Yes, psychiatrists are the worst
my two “adoptive” parents are neurosurgeons both psychopathic narcs
I recently had a bad experience with doctors. I was on the operating table and had a bad feeling about it, I went with my gut and got off it and said I didn't want to ho through with it which threw everyone in the theater. I later talked with head surgeon and we realized he had got me confused with another patient. He shut down the conversation quickly and prescribed the antibiotics I needed, I had avoided an unnecessary operation intended for someone else. I felt traumatized but thank God that I followed my intuition. I didn't make a complaint because I thought that they would just gaslight me as a bad patient. It's exactly as you say...medicine is all about them and not about the patient, I will never get an apology...a lucky escape.
Relied too much on computers.
Wow, you saved yourself from harm. Glad you didn't doubt yourself. Great lesson for others. Thank you for sharing !
This is such an important lesson. ALWAYS follow your gut when it is screaming at you like that. Don’t worry about putting ppl out or making a fuss. Kick up hell if you have to. Especially when it comes to something irreversible. You are within your rights to stop, pause and take stock, ensure everything is in order and then commit, if you choose to. I’m so glad you listened to your instincts, that was not luck, that was intelligence and conviction. Well done.
You need to report him. You can't weed out the bad ones by keeping quiet.
Thank you for sharing about your gut feelings and taking courage, it encourages me to be more courageous.
I’ve worked in healthcare in USA for the last 20 years - agree with you completely- why are you the only one that speaks the truth? I called a doctor out this week - I’ve had enough of them harming their patients by giving incorrect information at follow up visit after a surgery. No response, mic drop. Two patients injured this last week - BECAUSE OF WHAT THEIR DOCTOR TOLD THEM!
I was left legally disabled by a surgery done by a doctor I am convinced now had little experience in the surgery he proposed and performed and was motivated by greed. He gave a shit he hadn’t performed this surgery before - there was money to be made! Lots of money in surgery.
My ex, an MD, who was diagnosed with cluster B disorder at the Beck Institute, used to break up furniture and said if I called the police while he was doing it, he would say it was me and they would believe him because he was a doctor and he would have me committed.
My MD ex used to say the same thing! “They won’t believe you. They’ll believe me because I’m a doctor!”
My MD ex was the most horrible person I've ever come across in my life. Getting myself, and our child, away from him was the best decision I've ever made.
My ex an anesthesiologist used to say that too. And he would cheat on me with this ugly girl. Also I question what kind of abuse he did to his little son. He even hacked my computer and had me followed. What a whack job.
I worked with a nurse who’s ex was a doctor. She opened up to me a few times and told me about some of the things she endured. She said he would beat her and inject her with drugs to knock her out. Often, she said she would come to, locked up in the closet in the dark; while he left to see other women. I believe her, she had no reason to make up anything to me.
Other doctors I’ve worked with fit his description perfectly! I’ve had charts thrown at me, etc and not one thing was said…
@@BilboBegginz my ex fiance is anesthesiologist. He had partial custody of his little boy. And every time he had the kid over and couldn't handle him not sleeping or didn't want to bother babysitting him he would give the 3 year old Benadryl even if he wasn't sick. I found that sus.
My dad is a brain surgeon and he is the most narcissistic person i have ever lived with. I dream everyday of escaping this misery
So sorry...
Emigrate. Fuck it.
@rosanilebron1566 it's ok I'll get out soon 💓
@jubileej1629 I had an abusive father and life was hell until my 18th birthday... if I can give you an advice is to not telling him or any other family members you will leave : never. You deserve a life on your own and be happy
I don’t have the words
I have placed you on my heart for prayer
So glad you are calling them out! I'm married to a plastic surgeon. It's exhausting!
I am enjoying freedom 🎉from 32 years with my ex .
Psychiatrists can be the worst- ever critical and never supportive of their family.
@@antoniacanaris6866I went to school with a guy who’s parents were two psychiatrists, he said he felt like a patient instead of a child 😢
This is Sam's best video to date. Period.
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So so true
Agree, this needs to be in everybody’s feed. Most important video for humanity in today’s time.
@@drshell2 - Ha ha ha! It's always "the most important" thing for you guys, isn't it?
It's definitely the most shocking! ❤Sam!
I have always heard about how doctors often have a "God complex". I thought it was just about ego, but I understand it so much better now. Thank you.
I met a humble doctor once around 10 years back, the one and only time I can remember finding a doctor who had a heart, we sat in a room with a lady who was actively dying, me on a chair, him on his black, leather doctors equipment case, it was a moment of serenity, a rare occasion, never forgotten.
What country was it in?
@@walkertrayloryoutube2996 it was in England, was it you? 😂
I once held a lady who was on her last breath, she was very old and obviously dying. She was in the hospital bed next to me and she was my friends mother, over 95 years old. She thought I was an angel to come and take her to heaven, so I said yes and to rest as she was safe and I will not leave her. She laid back as she was desperately trying to sit up, but had the “death rattle” breathing that I knew very well. She passed peacefully and I went back to my bed as the doctor appeared in the foyer and was about to come to the bay. To my utter disgust he then tried to take blood test from her, I could hear him slapping her arm and saying that he needed to go get another needle as he was getting any success. So I calmly walked out to him and the nurse at the desk behind him and said “ just thought I’d let you know that the reason why you aren’t getting any blood is because this sweet dear woman had passed away in my arms about ten minutes ago”…. He looked stunned and I looked at him disgusted. I am just glad that I was there. Her daughter was a medium and I went to see her some months later for a visit and she said straight away when I hugged her “thank you so much for comforting my mother, she told me you were there “…. I said she was not alone and that it was very peaceful… obviously I didn’t tell her the rest. No way. This was in George Eliot Hospital in UK.
@@ninidini8001 I had my daughter at the George Elliot in 1985, was a good experience though, apart from the antenatal part, they were seriously cruel to me because I had wanted a home birth and was labeled a ‘trouble maker’, I don’t think all doctors are bad, just some of them are. What a special moment you spent with that lady who passed, it’s a privilege to be there to see someone on their way home to the place of eternal peace and I’m sorry you had to witness the doctor not being as good as he should have, how on earth was he oblivious to the fact that she was no longer there 😔
@@ninidini8001 > Her daughter was a medium and I went to see her some months later for a visit and she said straight away when I hugged her “thank you so much for comforting my mother, she told me you were there “
What a load of bollocks.
I worked for over 15 yrs for world renowned Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons in Santa Barbara, Scottsdale and Rancho Mirage. I can attest that everything this man is saying is absolutely true regarding narcissistic medical providers! And, it's ultimately why I left the field completely demoralized and disheartened by every aspect of the American Medical INDUSTRY!
The difference in how my doctor behaved when I took a friend to an appointment with me was quite mind blowing. Very polite and attentive. Try it for yourselves folks.
I went with a friend when he was trying to suggest changing his single medication with his first Psychiatrist. He'd seen him a few times before. We chatted with a young Doc in residency there and he seemed interested in things like psychoanalysis when asked. Then the Doctor arrived, my friend cited his side effects with his medicine and just asked openly for a different prescription of the Doctor's choosing. But he made a crucial mistake, and very gently asked the Doctor if he had ever tried the drug he just prescribed. The meeting lasted about 2 minutes and the doctor immediately raised his voice, offered no explanation or conversation, called my buddy crazy and kicked him out and and told him don't come back. Bringing a friend to an appointment will give you some protection, but Narcissism is hair triggered, and stupid.
I actually have a very awesome doctor as my GP right now. Best doctor I’ve ever had. Super humble and sweet and so kind. My husband and I actually switched our health insurance to make sure we had him as our GP. But yeah, they’re few and far between. I worked as a healthcare admin and can attest that most doctors are horrible, so egotistical, and they believe they know everything about every subject ever. I actually have a Masters in Painting, but I had these doctors in our office explaining art to me as if I had no knowledge of art. Because how could I know anything about a subject? I was a poor and not a doctor.
I take a man with me.
Thank you Professor Sam, for bringing light to this situation. I am retired from nursing, and forensic autopsy assistant. I recently had a snot-nosed young doctor, try to gas light, through bullying and demeaning conversation; push me to take a certain medication, that has been proven to do more harm than good. Also taking this medication along with my lupus and all of the complications that come with it, would amount to increasing my symptoms, and over a short period of time would eventually kill me. In my eyes he is not a medical physician, he is a medical monkey, that has found a great attraction to pushing medications that give the doctor a fantastic kickback from the pharmaceutical companies.
This behavior is going on with COVID and people are being gaslited for power for medical and pharma pluses elite government agencies !😢😂
Yep! I had a doctor put me on water pills for high blood pressure. My "high" blood pressure was 135/75, he put me on it because he wanted me to be "under 130". The first (which was also the last) dose that I took ruined my whole weekend. I had to cancel a hiking trip because they made me feel horrible. Instead of going hiking, I sat around all weekend feeling like total crap. I also did some research on what constitutes high blood pressure. I ghosted that doctor and made a formal complaint against him for malpractice. If the complaint ever came to anything, I never heard. It really taught me something about just believing what you're told and letting a doctor order you around. If you want to piss off a doctor, tell him that he doesn't order you around and anything he says to you is a recommendation only. Too many doctors forget who works for who.
@@Skank_and_GutterboyGood for you!
Happened to me too, an " doctor " wanted to give me mental health medications because I'm anxious, by telling that he did an video conference with another doctos and all of them told him that I'm mentally ill 😂😂😂😂😂 son of a bitch.... Trying to make me become sick, by taking medication without having anything.
Holy crapppp. ❤❤❤❤❤ 4:20
Not one doctor I have ever spoken to has this kind of humility or respect and my lord thank you for being the first person in nearly 40 years on this planet to say that. Which sadly speaks volumes for where we are at - but gives me great hope for our future. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Finally someone saying it. I work as a nurse and I always thought I was the only one to observe this.
I've noticed this for years. I've only known maybe 2 doctors who were actually not a Know-It-All pompous prick! They have such a God-Complex, its utterly and disgustingly so groteque
I'm so glad someone is addressing the rampant rise of narcissism/sociopathy in medicine and the *danger* it presents - not to mention their prevalence in government , education , the Justice $ystem/legal field , policing , big business , media , and the population in general .
Narcissistic medical doctors (and some nurses) seem to be particularly vicious toward patients with incurable chronic illnesses. These patients face gaslighting on a monumental scale. And, patients with conditions which cause chronic or intractable moderate to severe pain are treated the worst.
Can you give us an example? I'm an HCA and I saw one woman in excruciating agony with gallstones ignored, I have a preternatural ability to see a faintly luminous, almost pure white 'death mask' on some patients and begged the nurses to call the pain team but they ignored me and they ignored her and she went into cardiac arrest and died, no attempt was made to resuscitate her.
I work in healthcare and will add that they are also among the greediest people I have even met. Money rivals their narcissism as motivating factor for being in the profession.
This is true! I also worked in healthcare. We would get students rotating in from the large, famous university hospital next door. Sitting in staff meetings before the meeting start they would talk among themselves - and the conversations usually revolved around all the money they would make and the lifestyle they would lead and/or whether the road to riches would/could (hopefully) include inventing a new medical device which would then bring in a stream of money so they then didn’t have to work as a doctor! Very few were working toward entering the profession in order to help people - but there were a few. Those few stand out in my memory years later.
So true. I have one of the good doctors for my GP. But I feel sorry for him. I don't know how he does it I must get a card off to him before he finally passes away or retires.
My first boyfriend love of my life became a psychologist and it took a long long time but he basically threw me under the bus after asking me to marry him at 16 I was being abused at home and he expected me to wait 15 years until he would finally go into business for himself and then it backfired on him because he took a really lousy job as a prison psychologist wouldn't listen to me as I told him he was not cut out for that. It changed him it ruined his life but he ruined mine too. He was selfish and he was greedy. His mother warned me one time that he was selfish like his father who was also a doctor.
The most greedy m.f.’s ever! And they aren’t really smart. A few are good but they are few and far between.
This is why it’s so important that people start to empower themselves more en masse and break out of this centuries long spell society is under where they hand over total authority over their bodies to these people I believe
@@christinakuczora4862That goes on in the psychology field and therapists can be just as bad and only there for the money. It’s scary because some of them don’t care at all about actually learning how to help people and think they know it all already. I studied art therapy and there were a few people there whom I would be scared to know were acting as therapists. One of them I know personally and had to block him his insanity was next level and now he runs ayahuasca ceremonies, and thinks he’s a shaman. Terrifying
Let me share my friend's story of meeting a narc doctor.
He was in a life threatening situation when his aortal aneurysm started to diassect. He called emergency and went to the nearest hospital. There, in enormous pain and suffering, he was treated with painkillers. But all in all, doctor did not believe him. He had a supposition that my friend was under the influence of illegal substances and was confabulating and talking nonsense. Even after examination ruled that out the narc didn't change his view. In the meantime my friend's aorta was tearing apart.
So the narc doctor was talking with my friend and the following conversation happened:
- So, how are you feeling?
- Im scared... I know I have a condition that can cause internal bleeding and death if not treated. I am afraid that this is happening. You never know... It's like waiting for a heart attack to happen!
- I had a heart attack and I’m alive.
End of conversation.
He was not punished despite my friend loosing his kidney as a direct result of insufficient blood flow into kidney vessels (it was blocked by damage to aorta). Not to mention his chances of survival dropped from 40% to 5% because of the incompetence of narc doctor.
God forbid you meet anyone like that in your life.
OMG that is a cruel and condescending doctor who used a classic gaslighting response. It is so f-up. I told my mother in-law that her grandson tried to commit suicide and her response was “Lots of people try to commit suicide.” 😮 No wonder her son (my husband) has no feelings. Similar to the response that this jerk doctor gave to your poor friend. 😢
I’m not surprised at all . My ex boyfriend almost died from an untreated cancerous tumour on his spine. He was 15 , his dad had taken him to their Dr repeatedly because he was in excruciating severe pain . The doctor would say oh it’s just growing pains ! He felt the Dr thought he was drug seeking . When he finally woke up paralysed one morning and rushed to the emergency department they said without surgery he probably had 3 days to live . Doctors are so hyper vigilant about ”drug seekers” it’s ridiculous. God forbid you are ever in excruciating pain and some jerk doctor doesn’t like the look of you
The reason is they are Addicts!
My father is a doctor (and an a**hole), and he had an aortic dissection in his early 50s. He was in the hospital at the time, had some imaging done on his heart, and was told that he had aortic regurgitation. He told them that he had a dissection and they told him that he did not- that he just had a damaged heart value.
A week later my father ordered his own imaging procedures and confirmed that he had had a dissection. He was air lifted to another hospital for surgery and they said there was basically a 100% mortality rate for someone in his condition.
20 years later my father is still alive (and still an a**hole, btw).
I actually really like my doctor, but there are many who have their heads so far up their own butts that they won’t even listen to other physicians.
@@kimferzoco6755 Amazing! The unjustified, know-it-all arrogance!!
Parents are doctors. I have seen this first hand and seen the abuse that happens. Thank you for validating my experiences.
Same with me. Parents are doctors and unbelievable narcissists because they have been told from a young age that they are better than anyone else
Im a doctor,graduated from Russian university but ima foreign student. I dated one. with time his behaviour got worse.He was not who i thought. Brutal.
Consider what society offers doctors: reputation, money, and power. When individuals are given too much extrinsic value, they can become entitled. Consequently, the motivation to become a doctor has shifted from helping people to acquiring these values. we are all human beings, and no one is superior to others
@charlesdarwin5185 What you need to reflect on is the education system in USA. Doing a degree before medical school is a waste of time and money. It doesn't make their doctors better than doctors who don't have an extra degree in other countries in terms of professional skills and clinical experience.
Had this experience with a pediatrician.. ended up with him calling CPS on me and him eventually losing his place on the county board of pediatrics and loss of his practise.. all because I refused his nonsensical treatment plan for my daughter.. even after being berated, threatened, and raged at.. No sir. We are not playing games with my child. I laughed when I recieved the letter that I had been fired as one of his patients..
"fired"?? WOW!!
Grandiose jackass he was!
Same thing happened to a relative! Dr prescribed a toxic antibiotic, patient demurred. The next day my relative received an email ‘firing’ her as a patient 😦
Cringe
Is that all they have?
Childish nincompoops
I fired a dr last year and she tried to send me a certified letter firing me! I sent one back and said I’ll be using that retaliatory letter to file a board complaint and not to harass me ever again. Messed with the wrong person!
This is the best description , by a highly qualified,and most enlightened Professional, Professor Vaknin...of the entire Medical Profession! Thank you Professor! I am a Patient/Victim, of these Dr's, and can verify, and support every word Prof. Vaknin is saying here! They are a most Arrogant bunch of people! WELl SAID Professor! And a million thanks for your own series on Narcissim, you have vindicated my entire life battle to survive in a family of Narcissists! You are lifting the weight of false blame,and false guilt,off me at last..I'm 77 yrs old! God Bless you!
VR.
My narcissist mother was a medical doctor. Hadn't thought much of how she was acting at work but knew she had multiple conflicts during those years. Not suprised why.
Also. I found out she lied about not having complaints - of course she did.
Finally someone had the courage to tell the truth. This something that we have experiencied and have known our entire lives. Thank you Prof. Vaknin!!!😮
Someone will always doing well telling loons and contrarians that they were right all along.
Wow this video came at the right time. I recorded my session with the psychiatrist with his permission. I thought that if they knew I was recording, they would tone down the gaslighting. Nope!
I record to improve myself, but when I listened a second time to listen to the psychiatrist, I am wrecked. These people take your boundaries as a challenge. Telling them your weakness and your boundaries is like telling them where to shoot for maximum damage.
I recorded my psychiatrist without his knowledge.
@jeanetteschauerman908 I did too. I have a lot of gaslighting on record. Guess what? Nobody cares. So that's why I asked this one's permission, hoping he would tone down. He was dog whistling the whole time.
Going to a psych is like laughing at the school bully with your lunch money tied around your neck.
They are capable of doing great, great damage. I know from experience, and am dealing with a vicious psych doc right now. I have to see him because I cannot find anyone else. He is a really, really mean human being, to say the least.
@@lunasinger8702 I suggest recording him with his permission. The are protected by the system so complaining will result into more gaslighting and trauma. Playing back the recording will prevent you gaslighting yourself. To keep your sanity, if you will.
They discovered how to manipulate those in distress, consumed by their own desire to assert dominance during your darkest moments. You're left feeling humiliated and manipulated when you need compassion the most.
True !
The kids I knew in high school who wanted to be doctors only talked about how much money they would make. Not a word about helping or healing or improving people's life.
@@lunasinger8702the people attracted to the field are not the ones with the skills to help patients. They do it for the prestige. People who would make wonderful physicians are not attracted to this field.
Thank you for speaking out on this. Before they kill off humanity, if they didn’t already! Oh yea, Veterinarians too.
And dentists! In my long life I’ve had the misfortune already to come across greedy, dishonest and incompetent doctors, veterinarians and dentists.😪 Online reviews are often not truthful or reliable.
Yes, we're down to our last 8.1 *billion* people and growing, you muppet!
To add some levity to the conversation, around 20 minutes in, the video cut out because it was interrupted by an advertisement for a major US hospital's cardiology unit with scenes of doctors performing a surgery, and then cut back in with Sam saying, "See what I mean?" I laughed out loud.
Oh wow 😂
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Lol😂
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Dortors plus pharmaceutical are two most dangerous Entities we face today!
I work in a small Hospital in Germany....and yes you're right.
is it a miners hospital.
As someone who has been doing some time in grippy sock jail, I can confirm that biggest difference between staff and patients in mental hospitals is that staff wears name tags on them.
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Grippy sock jail 😂
@@AimeeKateKelly It is funny, but @javlapekka757 is right. Avoid grippy sock jail at all costs. Such "hospitals" only make you worse.
So sorry. You definitely speak truth.
Still laughing out loud! Hahahahaha
This could explain why the 3 brilliant, caring doctors I have had in my life 'retired ' early....they couldn't cope with their narc colleagues? The last one, I watched became more withdrawn for months beforehand.
That's exactly what happened to me, except for one, who moved to another state to teach at a medical school
I’m a physician (anesthesiology resident) and to be honest, it’s true. Every reasonable physician I know knows it’s true.
However, I’d like to add that not everybody in medicine is a narcissist or a psychopath - the problem is that those who have the greatest power are. It’s a very hierarchical, very competitive community and guess what type of personalities thrive in it 😉
The hierarchy in the medical field is more rigid than that in the military. From the nurse's aides on up it is extremely strict.
So, if you're allowing it to flourish, how does that make you better than the narcissists? Soon there will be nothing left but the narcissists.
Jesus Christ you're beautiful
@@LadyhawksLairDotCom If one anaesthesiologist attempts to stand up against the narcissists, what do you think will happen? He will not win, will have to find another profession and we will be minus an anaesthesiologist! That’s not a good outcome!
People who don't speak up are cowards. By 2030, it's estimated that 50% of all doctors will be replaced by technology. After all, a doctor is useless without technology. No one should have to ask permission to get a CTA scan or blood work, for example. I should be able to pay for what ever tests I want done without a doctor's permission.
And teachers. Too many are giving diagnosis to children and it gives off strong munchausen by proxy vibes as well as narcissism.
If you want to go that way , then how about mothers and parents who are narcissistic! How about government employees who work in government offices , or the hairstylists who talk behind your back and ridicule and gives you the wrong haircut! So I mean everybody in all departments could be narcissistic, but doctors hold your health and life in their hands and you are vulnerable.
@@light-yi2me maybe you don't have children, but I can guarantee you that giving a child an unwarranted autism spectrum diagnosis or ADHD diagnosis can ruin their lives. In Europe and Scandinavia they aren't allowed to educate themselves for certain jobs like police, military etc. Then there is the very real possibility that they will have the rights to managing and controlling their own money and finances removed from them, placing it in the hands of the government/state, not to mention the stigma of being unable to be taught or learn properly. I think that makes it much worse than a hairstylist. Could be parents and government workers are also in positions of power, but teachers pray on the ignorance and gullibility of the parents to get away with deciding who has a future and who doesn't. Hair grows back, usually, btw.
Yes, I am trained to be a school counselor sadly, I haven't been working for so long in this field due to the toxicity in the educational system, I just can't go along with Bs they are brainwashing children with, and that evil diagnosis, smh. Once they label a child with it, it is impossible to challenge it, propose a different approach, option, no way - it's written, case closed, you are going to be scapegoated along with that poor kid. Unfortunately, parents don't care, it's like nobody cares, and everyone just need a scapegoat. It's a narc world.
@@SlavicGirl. Thank you for your insight. This has been my experience too, but looking from the outside in as a parent and educator. Hopefully this can be discussed and discovered if we keep daring to uncover the truth.
@@WalburgisLuppus wow, happy to see like minded approach to this extremely important matter! I could write a book about it. I feel completely alienated when I try to came across, point out the seriousness of what is happening to children and youth inside of this so called " educational system"
I totally agree with this! Not just Drs but other people in the healthcare fields including nurses.
What's the difference between a doctor and God? God doesn't think he's a doctor.
Haha
He’s the ultimate doctor and healer!
The difference is God not exist. The nature is our creator 😉
May I ask, how did you find that out?
@@VerschwörungsPraktikerRomans 1:25-26 NLT
[25] They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. [26] That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires.
Oh my…I have recently discovered this with a physician assistant. A dermatologist. I get it now. Thanks for this video. I sought a second opinion and as a one year resident, she concurred with the physician assistant. The pa was confirmed by the second opinion. All medications have not worked after two years. A one year resident has only book knowledge and no experience, I told the pa, which irritated the heck out of her, thinking that I was discrediting the profession. It is the truth. Now I will seek another more compassionate and experienced doctor. Thank you again.
I've run into a few in my years and thankfully, I can ferret this out pretty fast and move on. Talk about arrogance when they're questioned.
I am 57 years old. I have been hurt my entire life more by the medical establishment by far and away, than any other field.
Been misdiagnosed countless times. Been placed on medicines that was poison and habit forming.
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen! Thank you!
I’m 57 too and have had the same experience as you.
The medical field really sucks! Filled with sadistic, know it all, condescending narcissistic pieces of work!
Not to mention their greed & corruption. They merely work for big pharma as sales representative. They have no knowledge of health, just unnatural toxic chemicals that damages the body even further.
I hate them with a passion!
Sam, you are speaking the truth! I have such medical trauma. I have gotten 2 procedures done that caused permanent damage. I am so scared of them. They treated me like an animal to slaughter. Never cared I was in pain.
Very scary.
I'm so sorry for your experience. I wish you healing and care.
I had the unfortunate experience of having a Dr I'd had more than 35 YEARS retire... & the one who took his place I INSTANTLY DIDN'T LIKE.... THOUGHT HE COULD FORCE ME INTO A COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY HOSPITALIZATION TO FORCE ME TO COMPLY!!!... ***I TOLD HIM TO GO TO HELL & WALKED OUT!!!*** Those same office assistants & nurses I'd had wonderful rapore with for decades chased after me... I apologized to them, but told them I wouldn't be back.... I'm DONE!!! "What he's doing is NOT medicine... it's manipulation to exert his preceived DICTATORSHIP POSITION!!!" They hung their heads, but knodded...
I left, & I've never been back....🎯❣️
Yes. Walk. Don't talk. I got a fake diagnosis based on gossip. I withdrew.
Whew dud they Clinton.
Get orrrrfff....😅
Lost my job as a radiologist at a Longview Texas hospital for whistleblowing activity against 3 elderly radiologists that would change bad peer reviews of their misdiagnosis then threaten any junior partners that tried to get them to go to the nonpunitive quality control board at the hospital. (All the multidisciplinary quality control board does is examine the occurrence and how to prevent it from happening again). The embarrassment it causes the narcissist is unbearable and they would never submit to any criticism they could control. 2 of my friends lost their lives to these narcissist physicians and I lost my job fighting for my patients. The kicker is the Texas Medical Board would not touch them. One of their "pack of narcissist doctors is the daughter of a 3 time senator. I'm glad to know the TMB isn't swayed by politics...cough, cough. Gang stalking to protect their ill gotten gains is a common method of these packs of physicians that will stoop to any level to protect their lucrative contracts.
IMHO the medical/pharmaceutical industry has broken the social contract with the rest of us. It has become a situation of "You will pay and pay or you will suffer and/or die." It's no different than being shaken down at gunpoint by a street mugger.
Bravo for being brave and courageous! Honest and decent doctors can’t survive among this medical mafia.
I'm so sorry! I'm a whistle blower type person too. Can I ask exactly how your job ended? Did the hospital fire you abruptly without saying any reasons?
@@sweetbeep Good day, the group was a private practice that contracted with the hospital. Hospital wasn't involved in the coverups til after I was pushed out. I was using the hospital's peer review process which was a joke
Good for you!
My deepest gratitude for your willingness to put such a detailed message together on such an important topic. Thank you.
I have a medically fragile son with intellectual disability who is an adult now. We've had to visit with quite a few specialists. This is all absolutely true and my son does have permanent and profound struggles due to a few certain professionals.
I used to visit a gynecologist who invented a story right on the spot about my condition which was of course far from the truth and completely hilarious. She didnt believe my words so much she kept convincing me to try to remember cleeearly and honestly :) I come to doctors not to hear stories but to receive treatment and get advice.
This is one of the most insidious secrets of the health industry, and anyone who has worked among / "under" them in a hospital can tell you it's one of the least healthy environments for the workers' mental health, and docs *do* protect each other... The administrators usually aren't far behind, or they have great hoover/handler skills to keep the narcs happy.😂
The Truth has been Spoken. Thank You Prof. Vaknin
I had a really good podiatrist when I had a tendon tear, he was the exact opposite of this description, what a blessing that was. He listened to my concerns, when I asked him how will I know that the tear is really healed and if I could get a second MRI to check. He said that in medicine they usually just assumed that it is healed once symptoms disappeared but if I really wished we could do a second MRI, but it is expensive. He basically admitted that sometimes they just assume and that my wish to want proof was valid and he would make arrangements if I really wanted it. He then gave me a free ultrasound, doesn't provide the same imaging but he did it for free and said if I wanted the MRI too I could get it. What a great doctor. I was very lucky. Dr. Driscol in Oregon, I will never forget :)
As someone who really has a bad opinion of doctors I have to say podiatrists seem to be a different breed almost, all of the ones I know through my parents needing podiatric care, have been amazing and surprisingly open minded, one of them is very open in questioning the pharmaceutical industry etc and has a lot interesting cutting edge medical related magazines in the waiting room (with very controversial criticism of certain established "treatments")
@@pamelapamper this is entirely possible, they might be a different type. I did see a second podiatrist before him and she also said not to take drugs if it's not necessary.. that's great and very interesting to hear :)
As a graduate medical student, I have just come to accept this is the norm. It's a tragic reality. I don't feel the medical profession deserves the respect society feels it gives to us.
Respect yes. But people contribute to this demigod thing with their expectations of Magical cure powers. Chicken and egg isn't it lolol
Yeah the word of a Dr is seen as gospel . Especially in court cases which is extremely concerning
Still remember everyone telling me "oh are u a doctor to make that sort of decision" when I refused to get the sh0t. No, I just have a functioning brain.
Most physicians aren’t that smart, their i.q. is about 120, but a lawyer’s, a physicist’s, is about 130, a mathematicians is about 145.
@@pamelapamperBe strong, you made the right decision, God bless
Every doctors appointment should be filmed and placed on the cloud to be reviewed if malpractice is claimed. The narcissist will lie at a whim and deceive any investigator.
You're allowed to record your own doctors appointments. If you feel there's a likelihood that you'll be mistreated, lied to, or gaslighted, make an audio recording while you're there.
Also every procedure. I was harmed during a spinal tap and I don't think it was on accident. He was either angry or having a bad day and kept twisting the needle around and injured my nerves. I'm now permanently disabled and most people didn't believe me, so I didn't sue.
@@michele5695 Srly you are entitled to compensation?
You're very right Sam. I had a p$ychiatrist who gave me permanent side effects with medications I never needed for a misdiagnosis, and he laughed at me about it. This is what we're dealing with. Evil narcissists/psychopaths who don't care. I work at a hospital and the medical doctors seem pretty cool. However, I will never forget all the things I've learned about the system from p$ychiatry.
Misdiagnosis goes on a lot and doctors have a deal with pharmaceutical companies who offer free holidays in the Bahamas for their families for whoever prescribed the most medication. It goes on in psychiatry as well. SO many people think they have a mental illness and are on drugs for illness they don’t even have
I read that p$ychiatry is the black sheep, the least respected medical field. I'm seeing one now and I see why that's true
Only the thing about the medical industry is they don't remove root causes. I'm so sorry about what that horrible doctard did to you. Maybe there are some natural healing methods for your health consequences?
@@sweetbeepeugenicists have no reason to remove root causes
p$ychiatry…love it! I mean, not psychiatry itself, but the dollar sign because that’s all it is…a moneymaking racket
I was always skeptical of doctors, and now I definitely still am after this video. Thanks Mr. Vaknin. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for making this video
It is so refreshing to hear someone say what we have all felt, particularly coming from someone in healthcare themselves
Often people in healthcare cover for each other and intend to make you feel like you are a difficult patient or over-reacting, then they gaslight you about your symptoms and lack of medical knowledge
I had a surgery at the 'Mayo Clinic' and before the surgery the Dr. said to me, ''When you wake up you may be calling me 'God';'...I froze,, it was right before the surgery so I felt I couldn't back out...When I woke up I 'Did not call him God', the surgery he did on me went terribly wrong. What you are saying Prof. Sam Vaknin is so true.
I'm 73 now and agree totally with everything you've said. My wife is a RN who had a almost 40 year career in emergency medicine. She worked with and got to know hundreds of MDs during her time and knew most of them as a mother would know her children. I've been lucky to have had a few good doctors, one was a older man who who would listen intently to what I was saying and would even admit knowledge lacking in a certain area and then say, let me go look that up and I'll be back (pre-internet). Thank you for sharing this absolutely correct information.
If you can find a good doctor, keep him/her.
I dated a Surgeon who had narcissistic tendencies. You are right. He had God complex. He was miserable that I was enjoying my weekend and he was on call. He gaslighted and devalued me. Not capable of having a serious conversation. He will just walk away. He was emotionally manipulative and controlling.
I am so glad this topic is addressed by prof. Vaknin Sadly my experience supports his observation. From lack of compassion to cruelty … I observed such range of attitudes in my female primary care physician.
Don’t be fooled - women physicians are just as bad as the men doctors. I had one lie about my thyroid test results - found out the next year when I visited the office and new doctor stated there were no records anywhere of a thyroid test being run the year before! I suffered several years with low thyroid symptoms before being properly treated. HMO’s were just becoming popular and I am surmising my original doctor was looking to save them money - many financially rewarded doctors at the end of the year who ran the least tests and provided the least procedures and services. Have greatly wised up in the intervening years. AND I always ask for a hard copy of any test results. Same goes for when my dog needs veterinary attention/tests.
Finally someone speak about this. Thank you. This is horrible problem because this profession is starting to threaten existence of whole humanity.
Doctors are mostly poorly educated in general knowledge, not better than average salesman, but they have enormously high opinion of their knowledge.
So true!!!!
I'm reminded of that right wing nut job Ben Carson. Genius surgeon and moronic politician.
Their i.q. is around 120, but when they lack sleep or have some other problems, it’s more like 60. The problem is there’s no objective party monitoring them.
Salesman😂yasss
Ive experienced very arrogant doctors the last several year. Its crazy scary....
Goes in in psychiatry as well
Goes on in psychiatry as well
@@philippagrimoire5968ESPECIALLY psychiatry…they are basically playing God with innocent people’s lives
I would put ministers and spiritual leaders up there with physicians as the worst narcissists.
I had a pastor for 5 years & looking back, he was a narcissist & he prevented young men in the ministry of starting new churched in this church I was in, wanted everyone to come to his church!!
A dentist stabbed through my healthy molar while mocking my suffering while he was doing it, I wasn't aware of it at the time because I was just trying to survive the pain. Eventually over the years after my tooth fell apart I thought back to that moment when he was mocking me while I was in excruciating pain and I realized what he was doing.
I'm a 74 year old single male. Until I was in my late forty's I had absolutely no contact with the medical system and after a very bad work accident I approached it with the naive thought that " If your hurt or sick a doctor was the person to see". Well, let me tell you I had no idea of what was to come and it has had an affect to this day, soul destroying.
I really thought that there was something about my personality that would trigger an angry or unhelpful response to my questions.
After watching this video I now totally understand and, I thank you.
I must state that I have also found some Doctors and only some that are a credit to their profession and I'm extremely grateful.
Wow! Such honesty! Very well thought-out and well-spoken. Most bow down to narcissistic white coats no matter how much harm they cause. Thank you for this rare video.
All of my family has White Coat Syndrome and they think Im absolutely insane for not always seeing a doctor for a small injury or illness...Doctors are just salesman for Big Pharma....all they know how to do is sell you very invasive pills or surgeries. It seems to me, the more you go to the doctor, the worse you get. I saw my grandparents become "yes men" for their doctors getting endless surgeries and taking endless amounts of opiates and other junk pills. I will always look for a natural way to help any ailments I have. Dont go to the doctors unless you wanna be treated like a walking checkbook. Even my dentist would wanna up-sell me on a very minimal chip in my front tooth, didnt even notice it until he stuck a big camera in front of my mouth. Dude Im here for a cleaning. Stop up-selling me like a car dealership.
Doctors, dentists and veterinarians will often try to upsell you. Medicine is no longer a healing art but a business.
Yup. match symptom with pill. Ignore patients' reports of terrible side effects or inefficacy of medicine.
I'm from a family of doctor's; any point of view I have is considered stupid and irrelevant; needless to say as a person with a curious and investigative nature, and a lifetime of challenging experiences, I have had to go 'no contact' for my very stability.
Of course! YOU are not a doctor!
Professor, you are absolutely right! Now I understand why some of the doctors I have seen along the years have given me the wrong treatment and wouldn't listen to me or would tell me that I was wrong about my symptoms.
Thank you very much for this enlightening video!
I worked for a covert narcissist doctor and let me tell you all.. this man was something else.. it's like giving this big responsability to a kid that just want to play and feed his fantasy.. work is just a game for them they don't give a shit about the profession, the patients or the principles they just want to play pretend.
One of the most traumatizing things that I keep still from my experience is them asking me a random question out of no where "are you able to kill someone" I didn't know at that time who he is and what was behind that question but later on when I started to pick on his behavior and actions I understood that he was projecting on me one of his darkest secret through that question, he was never correct, no morality, no principles, he is a criminal .. what a shame that such creatures manage to have such noble position and abuse it..
what an experience, truly frightening...
I've been stabbed in the back by many a doctor because at times I simply don't give a damn about speaking up or complaining. I've known of GP's, a Maxillo facial surgeon, psychiatrist, dentists exactly how you're describing; absolutely vile people. I have notes written about me due to my complaining, treated in a passive aggressive manner, humiliated, assaulted, lied to, had letters passed around (which I'd asked to be destroyed) in order to create deformation about me. I record every single appointment I attend, and I encourage anyone else to do so because they will gaslight the crap out of you and they live up one another's arse, there's no question about it.
My classmates father, the esteemed surgeon, hanged himself with a dog leash and left suicide notes hidden around his house blaming his family and others. They were finding them for years.
Good God
Typical. At what point do we have to ask, "is the service they provide worth the Hellfire of Destruction that they cause for those closest to them?" The trauma they cause is a cancer that spreads at rate most couldn't possibly comprehend
!!! Sick!!!
He couldn’t live with what he’d done.
Well covid jabs...say no more.
I don't believe most people realize how true what this man is saying is. I am in my 60's, and my life has been ruined by surgeons. And they all cover for each other and are the most arrogant people that exist. It is really tough to fight for one's rights with these people, but life is a battle.
Needed this. Been hardcore doubting myself recently after years of confusing and borderline abusive experiences in mental health settings. Finally accepted I have a cluster of mental issues half from trauma and half innate. There isnt one quick easy fix. Many doctors want to find "the one true diagnosis" and require you to only focus on that, otherwise you are difficult. I fell into that mindset for too long while following their lead. It takes repeated effort to get a handle on one's issues, not a one off appointment.
I would like to add that sometimes, doctors, and psychatrists, can be the victims of their over-specialisation (Not that the prof is wrong about narcissistic gas lighting doctors, but not all of them are). For example, my mother was all of a sudden, getting sweating at the back of her neck, following a stroke, and 3 doctors saw her at emergency. She was diagnosed with low electrolytes (which means salt in human speak) and was prescribed Gator Aid (nothing but salt/electrolytes) as a cure. They came to this conclusion, after I told them that I had cut salt from her diet, because salt is known to raise blood pressure, which is regularly not recommended after a stroke. My mother also took hormones (premarin) for 40 years after a hysterectomy. Those were discontinued after her stroke. The sweating continued, in spite of the Gator Aid. At the time, I was going through menopause, and getting plenty of hot flashes, so I put 2 and 2 together, and tought that this could be what was wrong with my mother. She also mentioned, that she had never had menopause symptoms, or hot flashes before, she had stoped taking premarin (hormones) . I went to her regular doctor with this information, and she actually agreed with my diagnosis. We also discussed, if there was ever a study made, has to what happens to women's blood pressure during a hot flash. There isn't one. I have asked several other doctors, including her stroke specialist, if they recalled seeing a study on blood pressure fluctuations during a hot flash, and they all said no. Last year, I spoke to a doctor, getting a test for a very soar throath, to be sure I did not have strep, (it wasen't) I asked him about menopause symptoms, (they last more than 10 years by the way) and to his recollection, he had never seen a study on a women's blood pressure during a hot flash. Women are still underserved by the medical profession it seems.
I'm in the psychology profession and went back to school for osteopathic medicine and holistic nutrition just for this reason, to care for and educate my own family, self and work as a consultant for families of special needs infants. I was in an accident and a new 28 yr old ER doctor wanted to do a spinal tap for a concussion, his reasoning was that he needed to figure out why I have a headache, a new primary care prescribed a medication that "works best for my race", I didn't have the need for it, my blood pressure was high due to pain, I reported him to my insurance company. Another was trying to force four unnecessary medications for low hormonal levels that two foods regulated, my mother had bilateral vascular surgery on her neck and takes the same medications. I was diagnosed with breast and bladder cancer and miraculously, it disappeared after I stood my ground and alerted my doctor that I'll be starting my clinicals soon so I won't be available for testing and treatments.
Dr., you are absolutely correct about their mental health, I spent 10 years of 12 hours shifts on crisis units with them, I don't scare easy -they scared me.
This is spot on! Had it not been for my research on breast cancer 21 years ago when first diagnosed, I certainly would have had a worse outcome. (my pathology indicated 30 % increased chance of being bilateral) A male surgeon blew off this concern I shared. I did not give up. A female surgeon listened and found another micro tumor on opposite breast.
Very true! Thanks for expose them. Always I noticed it. Most of the health workers are lack of empathy. Many of my family members (by mother and father side) are narcissists and work for the health system. I have years of no contact. I feel sorry for their patients. People need to open their eyes. The history don’t lie. Experiments or clinical trials are examples of their cruelty.
Did you ever think about why you chose the career path you did, or what you thought about and considered desireable at various ages? Sometimes I consider various jobs and imagine myself in that position, and there are many paths I never gave a second thought.For some time, I considered being a vet, having a connection with animals since I was a kid; I started a Psych degree in college, which I became quickly discouraged with.Listening to instructors, I realized how subjective a field it was, full of what I saw as dangerous generalizations and misunderstandings.NFN, over half a century, I've met 2 or 3 great doctors, - and a hundred barely competent to terrible ones.
Thank you Sam! Wish I had this information years back. It's too late for me now, the damage was done, but it's not too late for others ! This information is precious and life saving. I hope many will listen carefully and take your good advice.
I once had a surgeon telling me, if i didnt want my salival glands removed because the scars would affect my pretty face... He was telling me that while smirking at me like a psycho. The guy wanted to hurt and mutilate me real bad
OMG. That is super creepy
Thank you prof Sam Vaknin.wow finally you gave absolutely glorious insight 🙏👏👏👏. You are a life saver
I wish I’d known this before I got a job as a healthcare admin. I thought working with doctors would be an upgrade from working with lawyers as a paralegal. Boy was I wrong! They’re manipulative and have a god complex. And it’s constant Kafka traps of gaslighting. But my family was so thrilled that I had a “good job” with benefits, they encouraged me to stay despite the intense depression and anxiety I was experiencing. I do not recommend that anyone ever work in the healthcare admin industry. They only respect other doctors, they will let you know on the daily many times a day that you are beneath them, and they don’t respect you.
Thank you. This explains the last 4 years
No one likes anti-vaxxers.
Yes, they do. And think they can go away with it !
You have put into prose what I have barely dared to think for decades, and my path is becoming narrower. It was poetry to my ears. I will change my clinician without making a song and dance about it.
I totally agree. Doctors and mental health providers
Sanctimonious
Doctors 😂
Properly
"Ratted-OUT "
Thank-you Professor
Always Relevant
and Timley....
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Sadistic for sure. Head of psychology in a mental clinic told me i just "imagined" my childhood s*xual abuse. Got out real fast. Neurologist for another assessment sat and LAUGHED at me and said the wildest most incorrect things about the thing I was trying to get assessed for. Ran out of there. I've heard a lot of wicked stories like that especially from the field of psychology. Oh, also ran into a vet like that. Spoke publically about our experiences and they tried to financially ruin us with a bill that we had already paid. Sent reminders and a financial organization after us.
Thank you Prof. Sam Vaknim. This is the truth of it. The horrifying, terrifying truth of it. Thank you for your courage in speaking up. GOD Bless you.
I’ve dealt with a narcissist before. They are an absolute nightmare. The damage they can cause in even a short period of time is astonishing and very disturbing.
Learn the red flags. I’ve noticed a rise in narcissistic behaviour.
I’m an epileptic. I’ve had some not very kind doctors and nurses. I’ve endured the same with a few paramedics.
I hate it when I have seizure in public, I never know how I’m going to be treated when I’m taken into the ER. Not many truly listened and that includes some neurologists. In all of the years that I’ve had epilepsy, only one doctor read my epilepsy journal. He read it all. He listened.
I am one of those patients, harmed and not listened to. My husband is now gone by end of life meds against my will. I am destroyed. I wholeheartedly thank you for your video. I agree with it all. I have experience of everything you say. However, the healthcare in my country is broken, and we are not able to just walk out and choose another opinion. Many are not even able to register with any doctor due to the shortage of the medical proffession after the lockdowns. I have walked away from the medics and thrown away any meds. I now look after myself and feel much better without the drugs and my body is slowly recovering on its own. Drs do not listen.
Definitely. About 8 years ago I got extremely sick and went to the doctor. I was sure with the symptoms I had that it was lyme disease. I spent 2 years with local doctors I was imaging it and was given Valium to "calm down". I was mostly bed bound so I decided to move to another state and went to a lyme literate doctor who took blood work and found I had active borelia, babesia and rocky mountain spotted fever. I almost died several times. I am permanently damaged neurologically, have damage to one eye and fatigued 24/7. I brought the results back to my original doctor and she just said, well you got medicine so you're fine now.
Im so sorry. I had Lyme improperly treated for a year. They wont listen. Check Kris Kristofferson. They thought he had dementia… it was Lyme and Babesia. When you are bit by a tick that gives you Lyme- it is nearly always giving you something else also.Best Wishes.
"Lyme Literate Doctors" are basically con men. They diagnose *everyone* with the same conditions. You probably don't even have Lyme, but instead something else.
While on Medicaid, I had a doctor tell me that she wouldn't renew my medication I'd been taking for years because she felt I had been "rude" to her. She would still see me and prescribe other medications (which IMO were ineffective), but not that one. Even after she left the clinic, the other doctors there refused to prescribe me that medication, because "Dr Howard is a colleague of mine."
I am sorry for what you are going thru.Its DISGUSTING that there is no accountability in medicine
Right on Sam. Thank you so much for this. I've had a lifetime of dealing with doctors that don't listen and aggressively gaslight and punish the patient for not abiding in ther BS.
So how it is going to be if the wife of the narcissistic doctor got sick .. it is a life long crime, i have hundreds of strange cases that I couldn't understand at that time when i suffered from my husband's medical opinion about my health .. to the unbelievable extreeme ... this video makes all sense .. OMG - the medical gaslighting was his non stop strategy .. it is important to talk about the status of the partner of the medical doctor
Thank you for saying this. I’ve been scared to say anything but I’m in this position myself.
My ex tried to convince me to have my gall bladder removed (by his friend!). Turned out to be celiac.
I’m scared to think it. They hate us truth tellers.
Profesor i salute 🫡 you because you are extremely brave to bring this important subject to the public because no one has the guts to bring this to the light i highly respect you . Thank you 😊
Massive respect to you, for speaking the truth in this world of lies.
Relief to hear this podcast. My mother was destroyed by psych and osych drugs. Thankyou mr vankin.
She was forced to endure ect. It destroyed her brain. Why. Why. I dont know why.