How Early Can You Beat Prince Mush in Thousand Year Door?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Word has been out for a while now that the Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake on Nintendo Switch has a couple secret superbosses. One of them, Prince Mush, is able to be fought before the end of the game even though he's the strongest boss in the entire game...
CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
1:17 - How to unlock Mush
5:27 - 3 methods for beating Mush
12:20 - Conclusion
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As someone who tested this very thing, allow me to clear things up. To receive optional Emails like Jolene's and Mush's, you need to complete roughly 20 battles after you fulfill their requirements. This means that once you finish Jolene's trouble, you need to complete 20 battles before you receive Jolene's email, and then 20 more battles after that to get Mush's. And no, you can't just do 40 battles in a row, you NEED to get Jolene's email first before the counter for Mush's even begins. This distinction only matters because there are some locations in the game that completely block you from receiving emails at all, including dungeons, the sewers, and the Pit of 100 Trials, meaning that once you've finished enough battles, you need to make sure you enter an area where emails are not blocked so that you'll receive them properly.
Yes this is complicated, but knowing all of this, I can confirm that Mush can indeed be fought before you've even brought the Gold Star to the Thousand-Year Door. (Though I'd recommend doing so first anyways, not only because you'll get warped up to Frankly's house afterward and can swing by the Trouble Center right away, but it'll also open the shortcut pipe to make completing Jolene's trouble much faster.)
Thanks, Luigi.
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so theoretically, you could do Jolene's task, then grind up the entire Glitz Pit itself to become Champion again, receive Jolene's first mail, and then do 20 MORE battles offscreen (like, say, Pine T Jr's trouble making you go down to floor 18 of the Pit of 100 Trials to find his dad and then to floor 20 to make him escape, and maybe the trouble of the Toad in the Boggly Woods for a few more encounters?), receive Mush's email, and then go fight him before even "completing" chapter 3?
@@extremmefan7305 Well, the Boggly Woods Toad's trouble is postgame (for some reason), but otherwise yeah, that'd work.
Honestly I'm not sure if you even need to complete any battles to get Mush's email. My sister completed Jolene's trouble post-game after beating Bonetail and Whacka, she killed time by completing other troubles and barely ran into any enemies. It must have taken an hour or two after finishing Jolene's trouble to get Mush's email. It felt very random
11:30 casually taking Luigi out of the crowd here was hilarious
I wonder what Luigi’s thinking
"Piss off! I don't need your fucking help!!!"
I had no idea you could do that lmfaooo
Once I accidentally chased Luigi off the crowd. I felt so bad...
3:18 the fact that he's surprised it's a "what" she wanted taken care of rather than a "who" is one of my favorite dark jokes in the game
that's so SILLY
The earliest you can fight Mush is technically pre chapter 4, but the email system works so weirdly in this game I had to look up how to make it progress from people saying you had to wait longer to some saying you have to do battles to make it appear faster (so battles in the glitz pit for your comeback could help). What I did was start chapter 4, go up to the door leading to doopliss' room but not fight him so that way I didn't lock myself in chapter 4 and then head back to rougeport where after waiting a little more i finally got prince mush's email.
This was in my Pre-Hooktail pit file so i managed to clear him out easily afterwards lol.
I did a Level 0 run and doing battles got the Whacka email to appear but not the Mush email. Not sure if it’s luck or not.
My brother did the Prince Mush trouble directly after Chapter 4 and didn’t get the email until after beating Chaoter 6.
12:14 “You like doing 23-27 damage per hit? Me too!”
11:32 causally murders brother.
Mario got jealous of Luigi once again 😢
This is what Luigi fangirls think actually happens in Mario Power Tennis
I'm glad I managed to find Prince mush on my own. Id assumed he was just content I missed when I was a kid. Super cool they added him in. But my God I was not ready for him.
I believe he was cut content in the original TTYD? So nah, kid you didn't miss him, he wasn't there at all.
@@extremmefan7305he was cut very early in development if so cause there was no dummied out fight data in the GameCube one
Someone betting the moneyline on the goombas to upset the Great Gonzales and won so much money.
I actually did this on my casual playthrough and didn’t realize you were supposed to fight him post game
Same i just beat him like an hour ago the moment i was able to fight him.
I had 20 hp and burned through 3 life shrooms but i won in the end.
I just did it after three as well. Didn't take that many tries for me. I think I was 15 HP, 20 FP, and 30ish BP.
Like I thought the boss was pretty easy even the earliest you could beat them. And beat 100 trials before Hooktail. I honestly think I should record myself doing this crap if it’s this high of a feat 🤣
Same here also did it before chapter 4
beat him before chapter 5
"Beat him before phase 2" is what I ended up doing as well, but just used a ton of charges on Mario instead because I didn't think to do it on Yoshi. Still worked, still got him to just above half.
He's hard if you go in without a plan, but honestly trivial with some thought into it.
It's awesome how many wacky strategies can work in this game with the whole badge system, I am PRAYING that Nintendo learns from this remake's success and brings back the old Paper Mario format for the next game
I also hope the story and level design will actually be good.
@@islandboy9381 Honestly, I thought the story of Origami King was good. What was really holding it back was the lack of diversity in the characters, the story itself was fine
@@SuspiciousTemmie Hmm, the overall plot was decent but the moment to moment journey compared to the individual chapters in 64/TTYD/Super were just not that interesting/memorable. Which again is mostly because of, like you said, the lack of diverse characters.
I remember getting that email from Prince Mush for the first time, and immediately dropping everything to go fight him (I believe it was when I was running through the Glitz Pit a second time, which I did right after beating Chapter 3) expecting a purposefully anticlimactic fight because I was thinking "He's just a Toad, what's he even gonna do?".
Needless to say I was absolutely mortified when he showed me what he was capable of and knocked me out in just a few turns. I wouldn't actually beat him until Chapter 5 I believe, and now that I'm grossly overleveled and stacked with Badges he's actually pretty easy.
"He's just a toad" the Dojo fights in the original Paper Mario says hi
I haven't played that game unfortunately.
People say that just upgrading BP makes the game harder, but this instance makes me think that an FP only run would be the hardest.
"Harder" is dependant. Heavy BP allows you to stack your offense, which can make it more feast vs famine, it's actually easier with consistent offense
You can equip badges to raise the other two stats at 3 BP. Badge points are strictly better
FP only, more like partner only
HP only would be the most boring. Same vanilla basic attacks and constant badge swapping (like piercing blow on high defense enemies) would make a 30 hour game turn into 50+ hours
That's just incorrect. It only makes harder in the sense of in late game you'll die really fast since not many enemies in the mid game can kill 10-15 mario in like one turn or hit.
More like “how early can you click on a Bringle upload?”
Ok so you did pre hooktail, prologue pit, and pre hooktail in the remake, now for the ultimate challenge, we need you to do the pre hooktail then wakabump pit of 100. And after writing all of this I am just now realizing that is not possible😂
You can only fight Whacka in pre-Chapter 6 at the earliest, as you have to make the one on Keelhaul Key disappear to receive the email, and you can't go back to Rogueport during Chapter 5
@@awesomelink2347whacka is post-game. Whacka only spawns after receiving the Whacka Email, which requires you kill the whacka on the island, and have beaten the final boss
3:10 i absolutely love the background music in this section. Literally the best track in the game imo.
Its the chapter 7 normal battle theme for anyone who doesnt know
Hey Bringle! It's 1:05 for me in AUS but I love your videos :)
Just wanted to say that you mentioned possibly doing a full video essay of TTYD as a game, and that would be an amazing video in my opinion that I would love someone as educated about the game and funny as you are. Thanks for reading if you did!
Hey a fellow Aussie! I'm here just a couple hours later, awake with my newborn. Glad to have new Bringle at this time!
I’m playing Octopath 2 as I’m watching this and I went into a boss fight as the song came on and I damn near had a stroke😭
I mean, you waited a little over a month, I wouldn't say the Prince Mush fight is a spoilable event... COUGH COUGH BEARDBEAR
I'm starting to really dislike that channel. Beyond the obvious spoiler thumbnails, I'm pretty sure they turned many people away from the remake with the "censored" goomba trip dialogue.
Just superguard. That's the entire reasoning.
I can definitely confirm it's at least a third into chapter 4.
You'll need a little bit of luck and piercing blow but as long as you get him into the right stance he became pretty consistent.
Becoming a huge fan of your videos man, super stoked for new mod chapters!!
Prince Mush is the only boss or enemy in general in the game I lost to. Multiple times in fact, damn he’s tough. It was satisfying to beat him.
Always love a new Bringle video at 5:30 in the morning!
2:36 My head Cannon is that Grubba cleard Mario's Glitz pit records before the boss battle or while the security told Mr. Gonzales he was prohibited from leaving backstage Grubba had a tablet he used before the boss battle
these challenge videos are even better than guides in some cases. Makes me quite confident in what I can do.
I sort of want to see a Ms Mowz challenge run
I used Showstopper on him... and it worked. I felt so bad XD
Heck yeah. New Bringle banger
I’ve not seen anything about this but if you go into the mayors house after losing your identity to Doopliss, you can see all your partners there.
To the surprise of absolutely nobody,I love Bringle's videos
11:30 Most I got out of this video was finally seeing what Audience Luigi looks like running away.
3:25 hey now, that is 3 sleepy sheep and some vhamge, which can quickly turn into 9,999 coins and 9,999 piantas if you aquire them post chapter 6 when you have access to the Excess Express store (which has a roided up version of the sleepy sheep resale trick involving gold bars, for those curious).
I still think the most incredible part about Mush's fight that, barring rushing him from his first phase to 0 HP, he's REALLY cheese-proof, because:
He's immune to all forms of elemental damage(Fire, Explosion, Thunder, etc). So you can't just spam attack items on him, nor can you cheese his dodging mechanic by doing damage outside of your turns, like using Bobbery's Bomb Squad or fire damage.
Hell, during his second phase, while he has his clones up, Mush becomes 1 of 3 enemies that can nullify Specials damage(the other 2 being the Iron Clefts & Shadow Queen near the end of her 1st phase).
Hell yeah was looking forward to this challenge
WOOO new bringle video!!
If I had to guess why Mario's records are missing, it's because Grubba intended to disappear him, and the records would leave a paper trail. Not that it's relevant to anything else in the video.
EDIT: Also, my sister did pre-Key Mush - with Mowz. Because defense piercing.
Been meaning to ask this. I genuinely love your music choices from other RPGs for your videos, like Chrono Trigger and the Octopath series. Are there any plans to expand your challenge videos into other RPGs outside of Paper Mario? Even if you stay with PM, I’m looking forward to whatever you put out in the future; this channel has become one of my favorites I’ve found in the last few months.
Dope video! :)
The mechanic is apparently 20 battles to get each email to trigger - 40 battles total. I did that and was able to fight Mush before even talking to Darkly, let alone starting Ch 4.
As for my strategy, I used Peril Yoshi + Power Lift. Even with the badges available at the end of Ch 3, Yoshi wrecks him. You can actually beat him in 2 turns with the right build if you superguard his first attack.
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What a great video :D hopefully there's a glitch discovered that lets you do it sooner!
Hey I usually don't comment but just wanted to say I discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I love your content
Before even watching the video, I can say it's possible before finishing Chapter 4.
(Because that's what I did on my 1st playthrough... 😅)
I didn't even leave Twilight Town the 1st time before going back for him.
Yay more Bringle
Another wonderful video from our Bringle
A thought occurred can we get bosses vs other bosses?
Post-chapter 4 is when his fight became available for me, too. I did actually manage to defeat him with Mega Rush P Yoshi, because I'm bad at Power Bounce/Multibonk now. The hardest part was trying to pop off about it to my friends without spoiling it, because I was the first one in our group to learn about him.
I did Prince Mush Right Before Chapter 4. First Try, but the coolest part is I managed to Bring him down to one Hp then I managed to have Goombella take him out with a Superguard. It was hype.
Me going to bed
*A new Bringle vid pop up*
"Never mind this is important"
Well I just power bounced once and he fell over. What’s that you say? I’m covered head to toe in power rush badges? You’re hallucinating it was pure skill
You could theoretically beat Prince Mush since the start of the game if he was available then, but you would need to Superguard every attack to lower his defense to 0 and attack him 48 times.
Took me 5-7 tries to beat mush pre chapter 5, since that was when I got the email.
My strategy was to use piercing hammer on the proper stance and use supers like art attack or earth tremor on the bouncing stance since special attacks pierce defense.
Partners were for support and farming appeals since I am not confident in doing peril strats
When I landed a super gaurd my partner would attack, mainly yoshi for more hits as I can't get past the multibonk timing yet, and jump as mario since it would do more damage.
I had 1 power plus, 1 defense plus, piercing blow, 2 hp plusses, 2 pretty luckies, lucky start and quick change.
My inventory was random stuff i had, a boo sheet, power punch, roasted mushrooms, honey mushroom, 1 life shroom, a couples cake, a fire flower, a couple normal mushrooms, and 3 items that didn't serve much value: a tasty tonic, a voltshroom and an ice storm.
Watching you play fullfile my need of playing the game
Just started the video, but using strategies I learned from watching you, I beat the Prince in 3 turns (it was during Chapter 7, but who's counting lol)
During my play through I beat him first try right after chapter 4. Truly did not expect to do so after seeing the stats. I just got the superguards down before he got to half health so he didn’t get to land any of his crazy moves
I beat Prince Mush at like...Ch. 6 right after unlocking the tier 3 Partners. Goombella's Rally Wink saved me more than a few times.
Also could not have done it without using Power Lift. Like...I could not.
Lol I really did just finish 100% in this game except star pieces. Perfect timing
I think the emails, at least Prince Mush's, are dependent on how many battles you've done since completing the trouble. I haven't started chapter 4 yet, but I got his email immediately after a 50 floor run of the Pit of 100 Trials
Prince Mush is stronger than the Shadow Queen?
Modders, get on that! I want to see them fight!
grumba really put the world at risk seeing how princh mush could have saved it
1) As someone with bad timing, this toad terrifies me.
2) algorithm
11:41
They got him. Nintendo got him. They forced him to say Mushroom.
I beat him after chapter 4. Could have probably done it after character 3, but I couldn't be bothered redoing the glitz pit straight away, and I assumed I'd have to do that before Mush
I also beat prince mush pre chapter 5 by just abusing the hell out of Shell Shield
i used a high Mario power/high partner def/fp econ badge setup and just used koops to shield mario and tank damage while Mario charged up enough to kill him with one power bounce
that's also how i beat bonetail and whacka all at 10hp, shell shield is busted lmao
Would be cool to see a level 1 Prince mush challange!
I did the Prince Mush fight after beatin' the whole game
Is just a time thing, so inbetween you are just like doin' the missions or finish the 100 Pit and you'll get the email eventually
I hope you flex your Pianta Parlor skills in every video now.
The thing is is that the character's letters won't trigger Unless you are specifically In rouge port mainly in the area with the nuse hanging in it just do some stuff for about 30 minutes for each letter notification and it should work just fine, and as proof look at the where bringle was Every time the letter notifications were delivered... yea it's pretty obvious that you need to be in rouge port for the notification to appear.
"So how early are we going to be able to beat him"
I mean yeah, plotwise you kinda need to beat three chapters to even unlock him.
But what the game failed to consider is that this also means that it is giving someone like Bringle ,,,four? entire chapters of preparation (and then access to the overworld) to rearrange the champion's teeth towards the back of his head by way of excessive footage? and uh ...hammerage.
Like yeah you're a force to be reckoned with but brother, you are up against fucking Bringle.
This man is in a self-inflicted Groundhog Day loop with the sole purpose of figuring out your moves so that he can eventually destroy you and nothing you have will be good enough because Bringle will know at least 27 counters against every one of them.
I cant imagine the amount of war crimes you have to have committed against him specifically for him to enter this vengeful deity state but I reckon that now is a prime time to start shitting your pants. Because when he exits this loop? He's gonna anniilate you point blank.
I just beat the game for the first time the other day and I don’t think I ever hit a single super guard lol. Didn’t know they existed
I beat him right after Chapter 4, I am a Superguard god. Watching the video, you actually had the same stats as me!
Okay it was close though lol. I needed to hit the very last superguard one or I would lose.
Speaking of the Mario wiki, I just updated it because of this video, lmao
lol im literally working on a video similar to this myself, its good to know a couple things for sure though
Video 3 where I request a "Disabled Mario" Challenge.
Post Chapter 1, Pre Chapter 2 Pit of 100 trials. You must wear Jumpman, Hammerman and Double Pain
So i personally did it right after the chapter. I completed it and went back to max out my rank again after putting the star. And then after like 2 side quests it came out. Charge and power lift to max made it do able
I got a challenge idea, what's the minimum number of turns you need to lose/kill a full-sized audience? Can you reasonably do it in one encounter?
awesome :D
By what i know you get the jolene email after doing her trouble and then waiting in rouge port for 30 minutes and than after that the mush email will come after another hour
Next is a vid on Whacka I guess. Interestingly enough, Whacka is the only boss that you're forced to wait til post game to fight. Devs clearly intended on that being the toughest fight but some beg to differ. Given Whacka can heal (and by almost all his HP) and can potentially deal more damage than anyone else, I'd say he could be the hardest fight.
I haven’t got to fighting Whacka yet, so I’m not sure if he’s tougher than Bonetail or not. But you should definitely do a how early can you beat whacka if he’s anywhere near as hard
Definitely hardest boss. Shadow queen is super hard if you’re not leveled up or don’t have the right badges and strat, but bonetail and whacka don’t really come close imho
Whacka just attacks a lot and occasionally heals, and Bonetail never does more than 8 damage a single turn.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 my first time with whacka I don’t think I got hit, partly luck from a smoke screen and badges but also his attacks are so much easier to super guard cos the visual cue is pretty straightforward. But the risk of getting hit so hard is real lol, so different from bonetail’s gentle touch
Idk if you’ve done it before but I’d love to see a tier list of enemy difficulty in the remake. If that’s too much then just one of all bosses
He said badge points not badge power ! 😭 He's turning to the dark side
11:31 NO LUIGIIIII
solid watch
12:16 lol I'm not anti-superguarding, I just can't do it. I can't even get regular guards consistently. I dunno what it is, my brain just can't find the timing for it, never has. So I'm glad this is possible without superguards.
😮 I didn't know that you could fight him in this remake. I don't know if this was in the original game since I did the dirty trunks for Jolene but never fought him 😮😅😊
you waited AN hour for the email from Mush but like, uh, people say it's a 2 hour timer
Honestly I stacked yoshi with all the attack buffs like the star powet and charge, then parried one attack and mush went down before his second phase
The charge badge Is amazing,i beat prince mush with 3 badges equipped : + 4 charge for turn,10 turn of charge + Power bounce is easy k.o.
I think this that there is an additional time requirement besides the completion of chapter 4. This is because, during my first playthrough of switch remake (which I am taking SUPER slow because I have played this game a lot prior), I didn't get the mail notification until the end of chapter 5, despite spending time and effort on all the trouble center quests
how tf did I beat prince mush like it was a piece of cake
but the shadow queen had me getting 2 game overs and struggles
I beat him pre chapter 5 and used a charge setup but for mario. The partner just appealed for topping up star power.
you can actually get prince mush's fight invitation without capping off chapter 3 if you do a couple troubles!
i think you simply need to trigger a "progress flag" to get an email, so finishing a trouble and returning to rogueport after counts? thats just a theory based on my experience though.
So bored in life, another day spent binge watching random youtube videos
Hi Bring!
I agree. Grubba is a bad guy.
I would find it quite interesting if you tried beating terraria doing certain things intended for later action to be beat as early as they become available in that game’s progression.
Definitely working my way to fight Mush but as someone who is inconsistent with super guards, this fight finna be rough
You can just use boo sheets and charge till you one shot
13 minute vid isn’t gonna cut it bringle😂 you made the mistake of spoiling us with 40+ and now the precedent has been set🤷🏼♂️
(Just kidding I’m not that picky)
I never did the Jolene quest and still got the prince mush email. I think the trigger is ending chapter 4 because that's when I also got it 😊
I think I was able to see the fight right after chapter 3, I was just doing troubles as they appeared and after the other 2 I think it showed up there.