I love how his mom‘s speech has multiple meanings. She says that he should never let someone tell him he doesn’t belong, and of course we think that means because of his upbringing and the color of his skin, he’s likely to face a lot of uphill battles and people telling him what he “can’t do.” But then Miguel literally says he doesn’t belong there. But Miles isn’t about to let that stop him either. What a perfect film.
I absolutely loved Spot because he’s the first “scientist turned into a monster during experiment gone wrong” character who actually ACTS like a scientist. He’s constantly experimenting and picking apart the broader applications of his powers over the course of the movie. And unlike every other supervillain (who usually just tolerates having a kryptonite) when he realises he can run out of holes, he quickly brainstorms a way to get rid of the weakness by recreating the accident that transformed him on a much larger scale. He's far from the joke everyone sees him as.
I think the "Little Nerd" may be a reference to Kamala Khan or maybe even Iman Vellani, since she talked about bringing up to Kevin Feige that the MCU is not 616 but 19999.
I just wanna clarify something about Miguel. He's NOT vampire adjacent. Those fangs are to inject venom into his foes. His powers are more spider-adjacent but in different ways than the other spider people.
and he has to replenish his Spider powers every now and then, which is what that vial/injection was his claws are like barbs that enable him to climb shit like other Spider people since he can't naturally do that himself, his "webs" are made of hard light and doesn't follow the laws of physics like most other Spider people's, and he lacks a Spider Sense, _again_ like most other Spider people do I think exclusive to Spiderverse tho, his suit is also made of hard light/nanotech, instead of being typical skintight spandex/cloth
The Director said that the reveal that Miles is the first anomaly is a meta-commentary on what led to the creation of the first Black Spider-Man. Some fans believe that Miles doesn't deserve his power or belong in the mask.
There’s another earlier hint that miles is in the wrong universe that calls back to the first movie. Miles’ universe doesn’t have comic con, revealed by when Peter says save it for comic con and Miles asks what that is. Turns out Earth 42 has it as well when his mom asks if it’s a comic con costume and he again asks her what that is
And before Miles even gets sent there it literally said Earth 42 on the screen for the Go home machine at the Spider society and it wasn't that difficult to remember the earth Miles comes from is 1610 not 42 on my first watch
I recently read Miguel's comics, and none of the canon events he imposes on the other spiders happen to him. Hes not even bitten by a spider, he has his DNA spliced with a spider's in a machine. Im sure the writers of this movie know this so I'm curious if it plays into the story in the third movie. Also his fangs have paralyzing venom, which he wanted to use to stop vulture and that he probably was going to use on miles if he'd gotten through the go home machine barrier. Scary dude when he's pissed, he's killed a couple villains in anger before in the comics using those claws of his.
there’s to mention that atsv miguel and comic miguel are different people from different universes. The story is kind of the same but replaces some stories for empathy. no matter what, he is still a dude from downtown nueva york trying to fix his universe
FINALLY SOMEONE SHOWING MILES AND HIS MOM AS THE THUMB NAIL BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FAVORITE MOMENT IN THE WHOLE MOVIE. Everything was amazing in the movie but that scene meant everything to me.
Although it’s setting up for the next movie. It still did it’s job at wrapping up the plot it was supposed to. Miles sacrificed his need and obsession of becoming like the other spider-men just like in the first movie, but instead of his own identity “what makes a spider-man”. It’s now about the “what would my spider-man do” and he shows he’s willing to fight for. “Can you get back up when you get knocked down?” Which is the sign of a ready spider-man
Upon rewatch, the convo between Miles and his mom is hands down the best scene, especially when we see how Gwen is unable to stand up to the pseudo-peer pressure of the Spider Society since she (at that time) did not have a stable or reassuring home life to fall back on or look to for self-confidence.
Miguel is no vampire,he is a human whose DNA got spliced with A actual Spider in a scientific experiment, hence he got Poison Fangs and Talons of a Spider,He also doesn't have spider sense cuz he wasn't bitten by a special radioactive spider,he just has the Enhanced senses of a spider which he has to focus
@@LuthoEng What? That Miles 42 is taller? Literally look at the end. Our Miles was tied to a punching bag a few inches off the ground and when Miles 42 looks him in th eyes they're eye level.
you absolutely have to have seen this in theaters, it was made for cinema! glad you caught it this time around and I'm excited to watch your third reaction to it now
when I saw this in theaters I was amazed. I was like the writing, the direction, the way it was put together... BEAUTIFUL. I immediately went and bought another ticket and watched it again.
9:12 I think the "I'm not proud" message actually foreshadowed the scene where he finds out his dad is about to get k!lled by Spot after her becomes captain.
On my first watch for this movie, I remember feeling a bit overwhelmed by the wild animations. Though, the pace seemed really fast & nearly every line of dialogue felt dense. I started to catch on that this was a part 1 of 2 or middle movie in a trilogy once they explained Miles landed in universe 42. Like Rio said, “don’t get lost,” I noticed the movie used Chekhov’s gun style of writing. Now that came back around, they’re basically Empire Strikes Backing it! 😂
When Rio snaps at miles when she finds out he has a B in Spanish and it turns into the Puerto Rican flag was great. She just slapped him with his heritage.
I find Gwen sounds different to VI when she's talking quietly but when she's shouting the resemblance is more obvious. I also love her as Emily Dickinson and Kate Bishop :D
As an Indian, allow me to clarify some things : 1. Yes Chai literally translates to tea. So we can just say, "I love Chai" instead of "I love chai tea". 2. Also, Naan literally means bread. So again we can just say, " Can i have some Naan?" Instead of " Can i have some Naan Bread?".
Since Rees brought it up with his little editor's note, it's not that Marvel can't make up their minds on what universe the MCU exists in, it's that the original 199999 designation did not come from anyone involved with the creation of the movies, but instead came from the comics side. But the intention was that it was always an adaptation of the 616 comics universe, and that is why it has FREQUENTLY been referred to as 616 in the MCU, and why 616 has been sprinkled throughout the MCU even before the Multiverse Saga. It's referred to as 199999 in Across the Spider-Verse and Iman Vellani because they're not only accustomed to the 199999 designation, but they also don't see the MCU as an adaptation of 616 and rather a universe that exists alongside it. But Marvel Studios has always been consistent with the designation.
Yess let's goo and holy crap i love spider-man: across the spider-verse❤😊❤🕷🕸🤟 it was an mind blowing exprience it was first funny and then slowly it's getting dark it's one of the best spider-man movies i have ever seen and the animation style was beutiful well done Sony pictures Animation 👏👏 and ANGELINA i have some superhero movie's for you to check out the older superman movies the older batman movie's and the deadpool movies❤😊 and ANGELINA have a great day✌😎❄🤙
the writing and idea of this sequal is amazing. now gotta wait 5 years again for the continuation. yes, the first movie was 2018. i didn't even think it was THAT long ago. Spider-Man: Beyond The Spider-verse im waiting 4 u 😔✊
Yes that was a MCU reference but: No the MCU has been designated as 19999 The main come universe used to be designated as 616 but now the designation is Earth Prime It took that designation after the collapse and rebuild of the multiverse in 2015. But Marvel Studios wants to play fast and loose with some stuff despite it going against comic lore
The way I see it is that since it's a multiverse each universe might have different designations to the other universes they discover. I can only imagine how many universes probably call themselves "Universe 1". I think it was just a playful nod to the comic book readers that the universe Dr. Strange visited just happened to call the main MCU 616 but it might just be that universes that calls them that.
@@stevenfriedman2902 it was a nod BUT in an Alan Moore Captain Britain story they go to Avalon (a place outside of time, space and all the universes) basically one of the higher ups designed his earth as 616
I was a bit apprehensive when I first saw the trailer for portraying Miguel O'Hara aka Spider-Man 2099 in an antagonistic way because Miguel is a far cry from a villain and he's also my all-time favourite Spider-Man in the comics but the movie did an amazing job for portraying him not as the villain but more like an opposing force. Also just to clarify, he is not part vampire. That was just a joke they made in the movie becuse he has fangs which can secrete paralyzing venom.
I don't have much of any prior knowledge of Miguel but it's crazy to me that i've seen so many people just straight up call him a villain it seems like people only has a concept of black and white and see only heroes or villains and nothing inbetween
He sure acts like a villain in this movie. Doing almost the same thing as Kingpin did in the first movie. He may not be a villain in the comics, but the movies are not necessarily the same as the comics. Here, he is in fact, a villain. He will probably get some kind of redemption in the next movie, though.
@@PhilBagels What Miguel did was not the same as Kingpin on a fundamental level. Kingpin tried to rip a version of his family from an alternate dimension to replace the family he lost due to his own mistakes. Miguel went into another dimension to try to gain the family he never had (additionally, we never see Gaby's mom in the footage, so it's possible she would have been orphaned when the alternate Miguel died and he didn't want that to happen to her). He is not, in fact, a villain - he is in fact an antagonist, which is not the same thing. His ideology opposes Miles (the protagonist), and while he was unnecessarily cruel to Miles in his anger, the source of his anger is his fear that the terrible consequences of his mistake will happen again through Miles' own potential mistake. He doesn't do anything out of pure maliciousness or selfishness like a typical villain would - he has a misguided sense of responsibility for the whole multiverse and he's clearly cracking under the pressure.
@@vkdragonfire2123 I didn't say he did the exact same thing, I said he did "almost the same thing" - tampering with the multiverse out of his own selfishness and grief. I didn't say he was a "typical villain", I said he was a villain. Which he is. He does evil. He opposes the fundamental moral principle of Spiderman. Instead of "With great power comes great responsibility," he believes, "There is no great power, nor great responsibility. Don't bother trying to save anyone's life, because they're fated to die and you'll only make things worse." That is a villainous philosophy. Ange says in her commentary "Now Mr. Stacy doesn't have to die." Of course he has to die. All humans have to die. It's only a question of when and how. It makes no sense to believe that the entire universe will be destroyed because one human dies a few short years earlier or later than some supposed predetermined narrative. I can certainly understand how when a loved one dies, you can feel like it's "the end of the universe". But it really isn't. Life goes on. Take the time to mourn. Go ahead and cry. Lean on your friends and loved ones. Eat something, get some sleep. Pray. Get through it. Eventually, you'll be able to move on. Remember them with love, take inspiration and comfort from the life they led. Know that others will feel the same way when you die. Do not take your grief out on the rest of the world. That's what a villain does. Especially Spiderman villains.
@@PhilBagelssaying that its for his own needs is kind of a reach and erases his character completely tho? he literally says over and over during the movie he is not happy with what he has done and that if he could he would but thats what he knows how to fix it. Its common logic that if you know something you have done for years works you will keep doing it.
Honestly really glad you watched it in the cinemas always annoys me how so many reactors feel like they can’t go enjoy a film anymore when in reality fans will happily watch a commentary
This might pose the greatest comic book movie ever made! Think about it, not only does this movie clearly show how different each of the different universes are in terms of visual art style, it also makes so many nods to alternate versions of Spider-Man while also not making casual fans feel left out. And I honestly consider this movie one of the greatest sequels ever made. Tied with The Dark Knight and The Empire Strikes back.
I’ve watched this through like 5 times recently and I watched it for the first time right after Halloween this year. Technically watching this video is now the 6th time 🎉 also no way is mcu earth 616.
Miles is the Chosen One! He's the Neo and Luke Skywalker or should I say Darth Vader of the Spider Verse!!!!!!! Miles and his future wife Gwen. An Hobie his Soul Brother for Life. WHERE UNSTOPPABLE! Best Spider Man movie Ever! Can't wait for part 3!!!!!!! P.S. Hobie stole the show! Peace
Remember when the Spider-People are circling Miles and Miguel and one of them steps forward and says "We know it's hard, but it's the truth Miles"? That's the Peter Parker from the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, seriously one of the best versions of Spider-Man ever! If you ever plan on watching/ reacting to Spider-Man cartoons, I really recommend watching that one!
Since you like Miguel's Spider-man 2099 theme, check out The Spider-Man Unlimited (he's also an easter egg when Miles is getting chased) intro theme, 12 seconds in you'll notice the homage.
One of the original impact frames of the train scene had a spider biting Miguel when Miles shocked him. I don't remember if it was actually used in the movie though
Something I thought about on the train scene. Miguel says he doesn't belong and the spider that bit him was meant for someone else. But the spider that bit Miles came through the the collider before Spider-Man (Peter) would have destroyed the collider. So Miles would have been bitten no matter if Peter lived and destroyed the collider or not.
Why do I Love Across the Spider verse? Same as why I Love into the Spider verse and Spiderman no way Home Love Spiderman. And why not I grew up with Spider Man and Super man yes I I am into both DC and Marvel I have all Superman and Supergirl on DVD including Smallville Iron man Avengers Jessica Jones Daredevil Ironfist Cloak and Dagger And More can't wait to see more
I think this is the prevalent opinion on how they are going to solve the canon issue for Miles, but if that's true, I don't think that's a very good solve... and kind of a terrible one. Miles is allowed to do whatever he wants in his universe because he is an anomaly, yet every other Spider-Man has to follow cannon because they aren't? That's kind of terrible. The solve, while obviously going to be rooted in Miles, has to be a way to solve the cannon events in every universe to be truly meaningful.
@@vlonewolfv Yeah odds are Miguel will have been wrong in more ways than one - we heard from him and Peter B that his new universe was destroyed by breaking canon, but we have very few details about that. The only place we actually see what he suggested was in Pavitr's dimension, but that wasn't the universe collapsing, it was literally just a big spot hole. It's like the line Miles said to Gwen when she first visited, when she practically told him the canon of their characters. "There's a first time for everything." I'd be very surprised if the ultimate takeaway isn't that canon is less important than we or the characters think.
Kevin feige keeps wanting mcu to be 616 universe but that's the universe of the main comics storyline and if the mcu is supposed to be 616 then the stories should be exactly the same but they are not even the actress Iman vellani aka ms marvel has pointed this out to Kevin himself and the fight for the universe number still continues
You’re now watching this movie? It’s been like 5 months ago since this was out in theaters and when it’s almost Christmas, you’re now watching this!? (I’m a little mad that you didn’t watch this earlier when it came out but it’s ok Spiderverse did happen during Christmas 2018 so l don’t blame you)
I mean she's already watched it twice in theaters before this commentary. She probably wanted to give it a little more time for her to forget a couple of things when she watched it for her audience.
5:31 also, he’s proposing the Tom Holland Spider-Man movie we are Doctor Strange and also the other two Spider-Man not cartoon real actors. I believe he’s referencing the bad that movie.
8:39 did u know this part was made by a 14 year old RUclipsr and they hired him last minute to do this part cuz they loved his Lego trailer recreation of the trailer since these are the same directors that made the Lego movie. A lil cool fun fact for ya
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I love how his mom‘s speech has multiple meanings. She says that he should never let someone tell him he doesn’t belong, and of course we think that means because of his upbringing and the color of his skin, he’s likely to face a lot of uphill battles and people telling him what he “can’t do.” But then Miguel literally says he doesn’t belong there. But Miles isn’t about to let that stop him either. What a perfect film.
"nah, Ima do my own thing." AMAZING.
🙏🏽💪
“I beat them all”-miles morales
Your comment makes 0 sense bro. What his mom said has one meaning being exactly what she said. It’s as simple as that.
@@NaishiYT lol k good input
I absolutely loved Spot because he’s the first “scientist turned into a monster during experiment gone wrong” character who actually ACTS like a scientist.
He’s constantly experimenting and picking apart the broader applications of his powers over the course of the movie. And unlike every other supervillain (who usually just tolerates having a kryptonite) when he realises he can run out of holes, he quickly brainstorms a way to get rid of the weakness by recreating the accident that transformed him on a much larger scale. He's far from the joke everyone sees him as.
I think the "Little Nerd" may be a reference to Kamala Khan or maybe even Iman Vellani, since she talked about bringing up to Kevin Feige that the MCU is not 616 but 19999.
@@rogerroger5171nope, "little nerd" is the MCU Spider-Man
the glazing is crazy
@@rogerroger5171hat sort of dumb comment is that
@@rogerroger5171 He straight up said "Doctor Strange and the little nerd", Doctor Strange was with Tom Holland's Spider-man bro. It's not Kamala
I just wanna clarify something about Miguel. He's NOT vampire adjacent. Those fangs are to inject venom into his foes. His powers are more spider-adjacent but in different ways than the other spider people.
and he has to replenish his Spider powers every now and then, which is what that vial/injection was
his claws are like barbs that enable him to climb shit like other Spider people since he can't naturally do that himself, his "webs" are made of hard light and doesn't follow the laws of physics like most other Spider people's, and he lacks a Spider Sense, _again_ like most other Spider people do
I think exclusive to Spiderverse tho, his suit is also made of hard light/nanotech, instead of being typical skintight spandex/cloth
The Director said that the reveal that Miles is the first anomaly is a meta-commentary on what led to the creation of the first Black Spider-Man. Some fans believe that Miles doesn't deserve his power or belong in the mask.
There’s another earlier hint that miles is in the wrong universe that calls back to the first movie. Miles’ universe doesn’t have comic con, revealed by when Peter says save it for comic con and Miles asks what that is. Turns out Earth 42 has it as well when his mom asks if it’s a comic con costume and he again asks her what that is
What a catch!
And before Miles even gets sent there it literally said Earth 42 on the screen for the Go home machine at the Spider society and it wasn't that difficult to remember the earth Miles comes from is 1610 not 42 on my first watch
@@TaunTaunTundra4477 congrats?
That bagel really hit the spot 🥯 😂
This joke is so underrated 😂😂
👏👏👏 These are the kinds of jokes I need in my life.
I recently read Miguel's comics, and none of the canon events he imposes on the other spiders happen to him. Hes not even bitten by a spider, he has his DNA spliced with a spider's in a machine. Im sure the writers of this movie know this so I'm curious if it plays into the story in the third movie.
Also his fangs have paralyzing venom, which he wanted to use to stop vulture and that he probably was going to use on miles if he'd gotten through the go home machine barrier. Scary dude when he's pissed, he's killed a couple villains in anger before in the comics using those claws of his.
there’s to mention that atsv miguel and comic miguel are different people from different universes. The story is kind of the same but replaces some stories for empathy. no matter what, he is still a dude from downtown nueva york trying to fix his universe
FINALLY SOMEONE SHOWING MILES AND HIS MOM AS THE THUMB NAIL BECAUSE THAT WAS MY FAVORITE MOMENT IN THE WHOLE MOVIE. Everything was amazing in the movie but that scene meant everything to me.
Although it’s setting up for the next movie. It still did it’s job at wrapping up the plot it was supposed to. Miles sacrificed his need and obsession of becoming like the other spider-men just like in the first movie, but instead of his own identity “what makes a spider-man”. It’s now about the “what would my spider-man do” and he shows he’s willing to fight for. “Can you get back up when you get knocked down?” Which is the sign of a ready spider-man
Upon rewatch, the convo between Miles and his mom is hands down the best scene, especially when we see how Gwen is unable to stand up to the pseudo-peer pressure of the Spider Society since she (at that time) did not have a stable or reassuring home life to fall back on or look to for self-confidence.
Miguel is no vampire,he is a human whose DNA got spliced with A actual Spider in a scientific experiment, hence he got Poison Fangs and Talons of a Spider,He also doesn't have spider sense cuz he wasn't bitten by a special radioactive spider,he just has the Enhanced senses of a spider which he has to focus
I also appreciated the detail that prowler Miles has a stronger accent implying he speaks Spanish unlike Spider-man Miles.
I agree! This detail is how I think uncle Aaron knew that wasn’t him. His hair made him suspicious but the voice let him know for sure
@@IconVlog. Yeah, and the fact that he looked scared when he saw him.
I'd say better Spanish, but yeah. Also I believe Miles 42 is taller as well.
@@vailingbow1068
Who told ya that?
@@LuthoEng What? That Miles 42 is taller? Literally look at the end. Our Miles was tied to a punching bag a few inches off the ground and when Miles 42 looks him in th eyes they're eye level.
Thank you for the Amazing reaction ANGELINA and I’m also excited to see _Beyond the Spider-Verse_ once it eventually comes out.
I love that when they're upside-down, after Miles cheers up Gwen with the "first time for everything" line, she leans over, and they SHOULDER TOUCH.
Fun fact : The person who animated the Lego scenes was actually a 14 year old
Well, was. :P
Now 15 years
Because everybody older than that had already quit.
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you absolutely have to have seen this in theaters, it was made for cinema! glad you caught it this time around and I'm excited to watch your third reaction to it now
I loved the editor referencing Mavity when you talked about their faces drooping when upside down
when I saw this in theaters I was amazed. I was like the writing, the direction, the way it was put together... BEAUTIFUL. I immediately went and bought another ticket and watched it again.
20:10 “Just don’t enlist until you know what war you’re fighting….”
Hobie Brown 2023
9:12 I think the "I'm not proud" message actually foreshadowed the scene where he finds out his dad is about to get k!lled by Spot after her becomes captain.
You were winded walking up steps.. you’re not gonna make it in the marathon…
I mean good luck ANGE!
In comics Miguel poisoned his enemies with his fangs
This movie is EXTRAORDINARY
Between this film and Everything Everywhere All at Once - Bagels really are the greatest threat to the multiverse.
The art style, at least in Gwen's scenes, have many similarities of the original Spider Gwen comic books (2015).
On my first watch for this movie, I remember feeling a bit overwhelmed by the wild animations. Though, the pace seemed really fast & nearly every line of dialogue felt dense. I started to catch on that this was a part 1 of 2 or middle movie in a trilogy once they explained Miles landed in universe 42. Like Rio said, “don’t get lost,” I noticed the movie used Chekhov’s gun style of writing. Now that came back around, they’re basically Empire Strikes Backing it! 😂
12:23 i think that's my favorite moment in the whole thing. That decision.
Spider-Ange
Spider-Ange
Does whatever a Spider-Ange can
Watching movies, playing games
Reacting and commentating
Look out, it’s a Spider-Ange
Syllables are off but still a nice tune
This whole video is as good a reason as to why I subbed to you.
I didn't see this coming
But I'm ready to travel across the angeverse 🕷️🕸️
Everyone keeps telling me how my story supposed to go,nah Imma do my own thing miles Morales best line a teenager been wanting to say forever
@@estefanostesfaye5301 every teen until they realize that degree in ancient history is useless haha
Another tell tale sign is that Mile’s coat/hoodie is green and purple (Prowler colors).
That bagel sure hit The Spot.
When Rio snaps at miles when she finds out he has a B in Spanish and it turns into the Puerto Rican flag was great. She just slapped him with his heritage.
I find Gwen sounds different to VI when she's talking quietly but when she's shouting the resemblance is more obvious.
I also love her as Emily Dickinson and Kate Bishop :D
She's also the child from the True Grit remake!
As an Indian, allow me to clarify some things :
1. Yes Chai literally translates to tea. So we can just say, "I love Chai" instead of "I love chai tea".
2. Also, Naan literally means bread. So again we can just say, " Can i have some Naan?" Instead of " Can i have some Naan Bread?".
So excited for this reaction! I hope your half marathon went well 😊
Since Rees brought it up with his little editor's note, it's not that Marvel can't make up their minds on what universe the MCU exists in, it's that the original 199999 designation did not come from anyone involved with the creation of the movies, but instead came from the comics side. But the intention was that it was always an adaptation of the 616 comics universe, and that is why it has FREQUENTLY been referred to as 616 in the MCU, and why 616 has been sprinkled throughout the MCU even before the Multiverse Saga.
It's referred to as 199999 in Across the Spider-Verse and Iman Vellani because they're not only accustomed to the 199999 designation, but they also don't see the MCU as an adaptation of 616 and rather a universe that exists alongside it.
But Marvel Studios has always been consistent with the designation.
Can we get a Monthy Python commentary some day? Monthy Python and the Holy Grail and Monthy Python's Life of Brian
Miguel's "jingle" or any other characters for that matter is called a leitmotif for future reference when talking about musical themes
Yess let's goo and holy crap i love spider-man: across the spider-verse❤😊❤🕷🕸🤟 it was an mind blowing exprience it was first funny and then slowly it's getting dark it's one of the best spider-man movies i have ever seen and the animation style was beutiful well done Sony pictures Animation 👏👏 and ANGELINA i have some superhero movie's for you to check out the older superman movies the older batman movie's and the deadpool movies❤😊 and ANGELINA have a great day✌😎❄🤙
the writing and idea of this sequal is amazing. now gotta wait 5 years again for the continuation. yes, the first movie was 2018. i didn't even think it was THAT long ago. Spider-Man: Beyond The Spider-verse im waiting 4 u 😔✊
Girl I have been waiting forever😭😭
Yes that was a MCU reference but:
No the MCU has been designated as 19999
The main come universe used to be designated as 616 but now the designation is Earth Prime
It took that designation after the collapse and rebuild of the multiverse in 2015.
But Marvel Studios wants to play fast and loose with some stuff despite it going against comic lore
The way I see it is that since it's a multiverse each universe might have different designations to the other universes they discover. I can only imagine how many universes probably call themselves "Universe 1". I think it was just a playful nod to the comic book readers that the universe Dr. Strange visited just happened to call the main MCU 616 but it might just be that universes that calls them that.
@@stevenfriedman2902 it was a nod BUT in an Alan Moore Captain Britain story they go to Avalon (a place outside of time, space and all the universes) basically one of the higher ups designed his earth as 616
i'm obsessed with this movie!
I was a bit apprehensive when I first saw the trailer for portraying Miguel O'Hara aka Spider-Man 2099 in an antagonistic way because Miguel is a far cry from a villain and he's also my all-time favourite Spider-Man in the comics but the movie did an amazing job for portraying him not as the villain but more like an opposing force. Also just to clarify, he is not part vampire. That was just a joke they made in the movie becuse he has fangs which can secrete paralyzing venom.
I don't have much of any prior knowledge of Miguel but it's crazy to me that i've seen so many people just straight up call him a villain it seems like people only has a concept of black and white and see only heroes or villains and nothing inbetween
He sure acts like a villain in this movie. Doing almost the same thing as Kingpin did in the first movie. He may not be a villain in the comics, but the movies are not necessarily the same as the comics. Here, he is in fact, a villain. He will probably get some kind of redemption in the next movie, though.
@@PhilBagels What Miguel did was not the same as Kingpin on a fundamental level. Kingpin tried to rip a version of his family from an alternate dimension to replace the family he lost due to his own mistakes. Miguel went into another dimension to try to gain the family he never had (additionally, we never see Gaby's mom in the footage, so it's possible she would have been orphaned when the alternate Miguel died and he didn't want that to happen to her).
He is not, in fact, a villain - he is in fact an antagonist, which is not the same thing. His ideology opposes Miles (the protagonist), and while he was unnecessarily cruel to Miles in his anger, the source of his anger is his fear that the terrible consequences of his mistake will happen again through Miles' own potential mistake. He doesn't do anything out of pure maliciousness or selfishness like a typical villain would - he has a misguided sense of responsibility for the whole multiverse and he's clearly cracking under the pressure.
@@vkdragonfire2123 I didn't say he did the exact same thing, I said he did "almost the same thing" - tampering with the multiverse out of his own selfishness and grief.
I didn't say he was a "typical villain", I said he was a villain. Which he is. He does evil. He opposes the fundamental moral principle of Spiderman. Instead of "With great power comes great responsibility," he believes, "There is no great power, nor great responsibility. Don't bother trying to save anyone's life, because they're fated to die and you'll only make things worse." That is a villainous philosophy.
Ange says in her commentary "Now Mr. Stacy doesn't have to die." Of course he has to die. All humans have to die. It's only a question of when and how. It makes no sense to believe that the entire universe will be destroyed because one human dies a few short years earlier or later than some supposed predetermined narrative.
I can certainly understand how when a loved one dies, you can feel like it's "the end of the universe". But it really isn't. Life goes on. Take the time to mourn. Go ahead and cry. Lean on your friends and loved ones. Eat something, get some sleep. Pray. Get through it. Eventually, you'll be able to move on. Remember them with love, take inspiration and comfort from the life they led. Know that others will feel the same way when you die.
Do not take your grief out on the rest of the world. That's what a villain does. Especially Spiderman villains.
@@PhilBagelssaying that its for his own needs is kind of a reach and erases his character completely tho? he literally says over and over during the movie he is not happy with what he has done and that if he could he would but thats what he knows how to fix it.
Its common logic that if you know something you have done for years works you will keep doing it.
Honestly really glad you watched it in the cinemas always annoys me how so many reactors feel like they can’t go enjoy a film anymore when in reality fans will happily watch a commentary
I could never run a marathon & I don’t want to ever 😂
Jess Drew's look on her face, looked as though she understood why she had to let Gwen go.
11:19-11:48 her speech made me cry 🥺🥺
I love the color tones they did for Gwen’s universe
This might pose the greatest comic book movie ever made! Think about it, not only does this movie clearly show how different each of the different universes are in terms of visual art style, it also makes so many nods to alternate versions of Spider-Man while also not making casual fans feel left out.
And I honestly consider this movie one of the greatest sequels ever made. Tied with The Dark Knight and The Empire Strikes back.
Miles answers to no one but himself
I’ve watched this through like 5 times recently and I watched it for the first time right after Halloween this year. Technically watching this video is now the 6th time 🎉 also no way is mcu earth 616.
Miles is the Chosen One! He's the Neo and Luke Skywalker or should I say Darth Vader of the Spider Verse!!!!!!! Miles and his future wife Gwen. An Hobie his Soul Brother for Life. WHERE UNSTOPPABLE! Best Spider Man movie Ever! Can't wait for part 3!!!!!!! P.S. Hobie stole the show! Peace
Awesome reaction of my favorite Spider-Man movie!!!!
Seeing Ange run a marathon, or at least highlights (or hijinks) of it would make excellent content.
Remember when the Spider-People are circling Miles and Miguel and one of them steps forward and says "We know it's hard, but it's the truth Miles"? That's the Peter Parker from the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, seriously one of the best versions of Spider-Man ever! If you ever plan on watching/ reacting to Spider-Man cartoons, I really recommend watching that one!
Since you like Miguel's Spider-man 2099 theme, check out The Spider-Man Unlimited (he's also an easter egg when Miles is getting chased)
intro theme, 12 seconds in you'll notice the homage.
One of the original impact frames of the train scene had a spider biting Miguel when Miles shocked him. I don't remember if it was actually used in the movie though
Something I thought about on the train scene. Miguel says he doesn't belong and the spider that bit him was meant for someone else. But the spider that bit Miles came through the the collider before Spider-Man (Peter) would have destroyed the collider. So Miles would have been bitten no matter if Peter lived and destroyed the collider or not.
This was the best to watch ❤
11:16 nice doctor who reference
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Your editor being a whovian makes me so happy
In the Amazing Spiderman Gwens dad died even if Gwen wasnt Spiderwoman.
i love how Indian spiderman said "this is where the british stole all of our stuff" but gets on really well with hobie brown
European British not......Immigrant British
12:55 i love him 😂😂
Why do I Love Across the Spider verse? Same as why I Love into the Spider verse and Spiderman no way Home Love Spiderman. And why not I grew up with Spider Man and Super man yes I I am into both DC and Marvel I have all Superman and Supergirl on DVD including Smallville Iron man Avengers Jessica Jones Daredevil Ironfist Cloak and Dagger And More can't wait to see more
If Miles is an anomaly, then he never was subject to the spiderverse canon and Miguel was just overreacting anyway. Food for thought.
I think this is the prevalent opinion on how they are going to solve the canon issue for Miles, but if that's true, I don't think that's a very good solve... and kind of a terrible one. Miles is allowed to do whatever he wants in his universe because he is an anomaly, yet every other Spider-Man has to follow cannon because they aren't? That's kind of terrible.
The solve, while obviously going to be rooted in Miles, has to be a way to solve the cannon events in every universe to be truly meaningful.
@@vlonewolfv I was just pointing out none of this was Miles fault to begin with.
I don't think he got bitten by a radioactive spider on purpose.
@@vlonewolfv Yeah odds are Miguel will have been wrong in more ways than one - we heard from him and Peter B that his new universe was destroyed by breaking canon, but we have very few details about that. The only place we actually see what he suggested was in Pavitr's dimension, but that wasn't the universe collapsing, it was literally just a big spot hole.
It's like the line Miles said to Gwen when she first visited, when she practically told him the canon of their characters. "There's a first time for everything." I'd be very surprised if the ultimate takeaway isn't that canon is less important than we or the characters think.
8:00-8:13 i loved that part 😂😂
WAIT MAVITY???? WAS THAT A DOCTOR WHO REFERENCE 11:18
6:09 that was punch in the gut when he said that
This is where the fun begins!!!!!! 🙏🏽💪
What are you talking about?! I just re-watched your 'Into the Spider-Verse' commentary and it's awesome!!
Angelina Love you to the moon and back 🌛 and I'm new fan of you and I'm new subscriber of you ♥
If u ever see my comment remember "RUSH" movie exists!
13:59 i love hobie 💙💙
18:28-18:37 hell yea miles! 👏🏾👏🏾
Love the new hairstyle
the reference from doctor strange and the nerd, the nerd in the case is Tom Holland spider man, the 3th movie more specificaly
Yes finally! Please react to Barbenheimer!!!
Ik im gna sound so cringe, BUT HOBIE IS MY GUYYY🤟🪦🖤
Kevin feige keeps wanting mcu to be 616 universe but that's the universe of the main comics storyline and if the mcu is supposed to be 616 then the stories should be exactly the same but they are not even the actress Iman vellani aka ms marvel has pointed this out to Kevin himself and the fight for the universe number still continues
Did you notice Gwen's Peter in Across is different than her Peter in Into?
Everyone keeps telling me how my story supposed to go nahh Imma do my own thing my quote forever in use as a teenager
Best explanation will be multiverse of madness they were given the designation 616 because they had discovered 616 universes
You’re now watching this movie? It’s been like 5 months ago since this was out in theaters and when it’s almost Christmas, you’re now watching this!? (I’m a little mad that you didn’t watch this earlier when it came out but it’s ok Spiderverse did happen during Christmas 2018 so l don’t blame you)
I mean she's already watched it twice in theaters before this commentary. She probably wanted to give it a little more time for her to forget a couple of things when she watched it for her audience.
5:31 also, he’s proposing the Tom Holland Spider-Man movie we are Doctor Strange and also the other two Spider-Man not cartoon real actors. I believe he’s referencing the bad that movie.
If you want a great comedy movie from the 90s, watch Major Payne.
Scott pilgrim takes off
Season One Netflix
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8:39 did u know this part was made by a 14 year old RUclipsr and they hired him last minute to do this part cuz they loved his Lego trailer recreation of the trailer since these are the same directors that made the Lego movie. A lil cool fun fact for ya
Lamo yea can’t notice but awesome 👍
I see your Doctor Who reference😀
10:26-10:35 omg i love vi!
Im suprised Peter's daughter, little spider baby, didn't get more attention
I would love to see a Lego Spider-Man movie
Dear Angelina, If you and your family ever adopted a *pet bunny rabbit* one day in the future, what would you name him/her? 🐰🐇
I think the biggest sign that Miles was in the wrong Universe was that his mom had different colored eyes.. or maybe that's just me cuz I'm a Rio simp
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Did she almost... Ripped off our favorite golden nugget?