Oli London & the Right Wing Grift
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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His origin wasnt even trying to be korean, but trying obsessively to impersonate Jimmin
Man, can you imagine being a Korean pop star and some weirdo white guy is so obsessed with you that he has multiple expensive surgeries in an effort to look like you? It's so incredibly creepy.
Later he tried to also look like Black Pink singer Rosé. So he was fully committing to it to the point of trying to claim he was Korean. And came out as a "she".
I was hoping Matt had that video of him saying "people come up to me and are like OMG JIMIN!" cos that is just WILD fabrication lmfao.
I don't think he actually wanted to look like Jimin. Ive been seeing him in stuff for almost a decade and he just wants to be whoever is popular at the time and Jimin was huge
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Oli London started digging a hole and apparently will not stop digging until he reaches the earth's core
And only then bc it’ll start melting all his implants
Missed opportunity to say “reaches Korea”
From the looks of it he might find wonderland and become an disney adult in the end.
@@aikaterinikera4095 That's an insult to Lewis Carroll and Disney adults don't bring em into this lmao
@@catsforcomms1952Haha!
i said this on the detransition vid but transracial was a term originally coined by *black adoptees of white adoptive families* to express the racial disconnect they experience from being black but being raised white
*as a interracial adoptee myself* I cannot express 1. how very real this feeling is and how important it is to talk about 2. how absolutely disgusting it is that this term has been co-opted
it is *so* important to discuss what it does to a child to feel so disconnected from themselves and their family, to navigate a world that sees you as something opposite than you feel internally
that was the whole reason the term was made and now we can't use it and the conversation is overrun by that piece of shit
I 2nd this. It pisses me off, how transphobic have appropriated the term to push for their anti-LGBTQIA+ agenda.
Please only answer if you feel comfortable responding, but I’m a bit curious as I was thinking about adopting. Do you resent being raised by parents who are of a different ethnicity? If you could choose, would you prefer the same parents, but of your own ethnicity? I’m really genuinely interested whether it would be bad as a couple of an Asian and a Caucasian, if we were to adopt, for example someone of South American heritage.
as an adopted asian child to white parents, I’m glad someone posted this 😔🥺
This is fascinating and insightful. Thank you for sharing your experience
When I was a part of Evangelical Christianity, I knew a white couple who adopted a black boy. This black boy would insist on wanting to wear dresses and act like a princess and more.
They prayed every day for him to not be LGBTQIA+. Not a single day goes by where I don’t think about that poor child. I cannot imagine what he has to go through while being possibly LGBTQ and black with a white family 😢
9:19 If Ben Shapiro came to my defense for any reason, I would reevalutate every decision I had ever made.
Because he doesn’t cuck for 🇵🇸 ?
Let's assume, for the sake of argument. That. A diminutive ghoul came to your defense. Online...
The good news is that it‘s unlikely that Ben will defend you on account of your willingness to reflect on your actions.
You'd jump out the fucking window, wouldn't you?! Ugh. That man's poor wife.
I'm sorry (no, I'm not) he said he did WHAT?! "Took the road less traveled"?!
Sir, do you understand how few trans people out there are fortunate enough to get any surgeries at all? The cis road is a goddamn Authobahn
I was hoping I'd see a comment like this.
Also I love how he brought up the Frost poem like it makes him look intelligent because its actually a rather overrated and overused reference.
I remember a lit. professor telling my class that he never wanted to see another pseudo-intellectual piece on that poem for the rest of his life. 😂
@@jacoosacoon118 The man (Frost) went to Harvard, and even his wife was privileged enough to attend/finish college...in the late 1800's. Every road he ever set foot on had been well paved long before he got there.
@@SirSpenacehow many of them became professional poets?
Or he might have meant it on a deeper level, than education/career.
FOR REAL, the fact that he actually said with a straight face that transitioning is "the easy path" completely blows me away. AND HE'S BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY LIKE COME ON 😭😭😭
@@alex-qd6of I'm not sure about poets, but I'd venture to guess that MANY people who graduate from Harvard go on to be published. He was paid the modern day equivalent of $500 for his FIRST poem.
Literally everyone has hardships, that doesn't mean that people know what it's like to travel a "road less taken." I've never even read anything about Frost supporting suffrage. Everything I've read about him has said he was a vehement centrist.
I'm wondering when enough people begin to see this "I'm a conservative now" trend as the stale, money grabbing, attention seeking that it is.
I don't think they care... They just want new members to their hateful club. They're not genuine as we've seen. They're proud hypocrites. It comes with the territory. So adding another faker to the group is par for the course.
I wouldn’t say it always is, it just is like 97% of the time.
Yeah the tik timer CandyKen recently started the right wing grift this year literally from going from gender bending hello kitty candy coated colors to conservative camp and flannel and is doing the whole “they’re indoctrinating our kids I have found god” narrative
"We know it's not right, and we know it's not funny, but we'll stop beating this dead horse when it stops spitting out money" Bo Burnham
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I’d forgotten about Oli London for a while and it’s like discovering a potato I’d accidentally left in the air fryer and gone on holiday , this is insane
Great metaphor!
One of the most frustrating things about Ollie London parading himself around as a detransitioner is that he would have never been able to access gender services in the NHS and yet when he’s on UK right wing media they always act/infer that he got *transed* by the gender services.
it kinda sickens me how he’s only getting platformed as a detransitioner purely to showcase the toll his surgeries have taken on his face. like “ooooh, if you let your kid transition they’ll wind up looking like this if they change their mind!” as if the bulk of that didn’t happen squarely in his cis phase
@@dackattacbulk isn't even accurate, ALL of them did, he's never been trans
Exactly. In their book, they refer to how easy it is for anyone, including children, to get gender reafirming surgery yet writes about how they had to risk their life getting surgery abroad
It's also wild he's claiming that having 11 facial feminisation surgeries before any other procedures at all is representative of what trans people go through
Is he counting the surgeries to make him “trans Asian” in that now though
also 11 surgeries on the same day sounds more like there were 11 items in the procedure
It’s ironic as most trans people can’t even afford any surgery let alone several
Yeah, pretty racist to frame surgeries he got to make him look Korean as “facial feminization”
What kills me about Oli citing “The Road Not Taken” is that the poem is famously misinterpreted to be about individualism and the significance of choice and nonconformity. If you read and pay attention beyond the last stanza, it’s about how people will self-aggrandize our choices, and how said choices are often not that impressive or significant. Like, in the poem, the “road less traveled” is actually just as grassy as the other, and the choice isn’t that significant, and it’s only when looking back that the speaker says they will declare that it made a difference, basically creating a narrative after the fact, which is ironically the same thing Oli has done.
He references the Robert Frost poem but the whole point of that poem is that there is no road less traveled. Both paths were practically indistinguishable and he made an entirely arbitrary decision to travel down one of those paths thinking that he could just come back on another day to try the other path. However, the character in the poem never returns and spends the rest of his life mulling over whether he made the right decision and essentially fabricates this fake mythologized version of the story where one path was clearly less traveled and him choosing that path made all the difference in his life.
In my opinion the poem is about fake narratives we construct to create meaning in our lives where there is none. It's how we cope with the festering uncertainty and regret that comes with not knowing if a decision we made when we were younger might have forever changed the trajectory of our life or if it had absolutely no effect at all. We convince ourselves that our life follows a narrative, that our decisions are important but what if they aren't? What if it's all random nonsense and the meaning of our lives actually has very little to do with these sorts of decisions?
The irony is that Oli is doing exactly what the character in the poem is doing. He doesn't actually care about the truth of both roads. He only cares about how he's going to retell the story later. The phrase "I took the one less traveled" is not only insincere but it also has this sense of self-importance. It's as if you think you're superior to all of the sheeple who took the common path. It's contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism and the worst part about it is that the character as well as Oli aren't even contrarians. They're posers. They're grifters. Robert Frost's character has no idea if the other path is less or more traveled because he never even bothered to return and see for himself. It just wasn't that important to him at the time. I don't think transitioning is that important to Oli. Getting a surgery seems to be just as arbitrary to him as choosing a path is to the average person. He only talks about it because he can turn it into an interesting origin story.
THIS. Excellent summary, as well as the comparison 👏🏼
We’re talking about the Jack Frost poem. It’s different.
Honestly, this may be the best RUclips post I've ever read.. almost makes the horror of so much Oli London worth it.
I'm gonna be completely honest, for the longest time I misread his name as "Oil" and he was out as non-binary at the time so I thought he just named himself that 💀💀 it wouldn't be the weirdest thing he did in that era either 😭
"Oil London" is fitting because he is a greasy, slippery, slimy little weasel...
Did you say oil? 🇺🇸🦅
Me, who had never heard of this person before this video: shit that's not the name??
Respectfully, I mean that would fit with non binary people naming themselves after objects.
Oily London
yes, robert frost. not jack frost. robert frost. we had been recording for a very long time and i was hitting delulu hours. sowwy ._.
Oh! I thought you were deliberately making a joke about how artificial his interest in Frost's poetry was. 😅
@@Cat_WoodsMy assumption as well, given that Oli London didn't title the poem correctly, let alone analyze it even baseline accurately...
It was funny, anyway!
I laughed because I thought you had mixed up Robert Frost and Jack London. Like, "The road is less traveled because there are freaking WOLVES, Oli!"
That’s literally hilarious
The conservatives are so tragically easy to dupe
No but FR 💀
Correction... PEOPLE are easy to dupe
You just don't like the way you think the conservatives have been "duped" but don't consider that you too could have been duped
@@plasticmodels important difference is that generally there's no money for grifting for the left.
@@jannyjan90lol ur literally crazy rambling and foaming at the mouth. They said what they meant. Y’all are easy to dupe.
@birthdaycow OK super ... just one side ...and I'm the crazy one for seeing it on both sides 👍🏼
As a Korean NB and generally Queer, I saw Oli's grift and while I didn't like it, from all of the rapid shifts I do kind of think that he? (he changed his pronouns a lot, forgive me) kinda read to me, not just attention seeking, but reading his past history it kinda felt like he lacked a sense of identity and was trying to find it through other people and attention. This is about the limit of my empathy for him. But him claiming to be Korean, etc, was not fun. I will say when I defended NBs over him, I found antis in my midst I had to get rid of.
When someone asks “who is Oli London?” Please do them the kindness of not telling them.
I did not know there was a cornrows era…
How fun.
😂
Oh GOD me neitber
Isn’t there always a cornrows era??? People always find a way to get black folks wrapped up in it, because this had NOTHING to do with black culture until thatttt
Appropriating the looks of one race wasn't enough
not only am i chronically online, but im also *a kpop stan* so i’ve been aware of olli london for TOO DAMN LONG
Thoughts and prayers
i’m currently in top surgery recovery and so happy to have the podcast to
listen to!! thank you for providing a great resource for queer joy in these trying times!!
Congrats!!
Hell yeah, that's awesome!! I'm five weeks recovered - it's been a breeze [aside from a minor nipple infection at the three week mark] & I'm so grateful. I hope you're just as happy w/ your results as I am. 💖
Me too, i had it a week ago!!
Congrats!! Wish you a safe and healthy recovery💕
Congrats! My surgery is scheduled for Tuesday so ill probably be doing the same thing next week lol
Ironically I think you could become "Asian", through citizenship in an Asian country. Citizenship is fluid!
Want to be asian? You can, just learn an asian language, move to that country, and get citizenship! Congratulations you're now asian, no surgery or arguing with randos on the internet necessary!
Not the interior designer father bullying young Oli for not being masculine enough. Now we’re all dealing with this man’s mess. Imagine the paradise we could live in if all parents went to therapy
This part of the backstory is bullshit. His father was nothing like this, and is not even an interior designer.
I remember finding out about him when Sargon of Akkad made a video on him. Oli’s story de-radicalized me because it was so obviously terrible.
Welcome back. Hope you’re doing ok.
Lol that's really funny but I'm also happy for you
@@annieisokfr doing much much better. I used to genuinely be hateful towards trans people but Oli and Vaush (im sorry lol) contributed to me realizing that trans people are just like anyone else, trying to make their way through life.
@@imperial199 NICE! hate is not an easy thing to come back from and most people (understandably) are up to the confrontational task of self-reflection.
I’m so unbelievably proud of your growth and hope you’re proud too
Oli London should read about certain Ernst Röhm and what happened to him. Being a conservative christofascist is not going to save him from his (for now) allies
Homosexuality just wasn’t accepted in 1930s Europe. Even prior to the Nazi regime homosexuality was illegal. The nazis decided to keep Rohm’s homosexuality a secret until he committed treason.
They probably don’t see Oli as a person but as a means to an end, too. It’s just sad people will let themselves get used for fame, fortune, or whatever reason Oli is doing it for.
"I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face!!?!" said the voters of the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.....
Hilarious fact, my friend was in the navy with the grandson of Röhm and he is: a ginger, a little gay and would go around flexing how small his penis is and offer to show it to people
It never does, you can be as conservative as possible but they will never accept you fully and will go after you eventually if you don’t perfectly fit their mold. They’ll just use you until they’re done
If you became conservative over night bc Conservatives were nice to you it really doesn’t tell me anything other than how shaky your values are and how desperate you are for attention and affection.
Oli is a huge example of self-loathing. Like Ian Miles Cheong, he wishes he was something he is never going to be...charismatic and grounded.
I almost feel bad for conservatives for being unintelligent enough to fall for frickin Oli London "becoming conservative."
Nah, I don't feel sorry for them. The conservatives deserve it. They kept making fun of the LGBTQ+ community for Oli's escapades, now he's their problem😂
I honestly don't think most are falling for it; I think they're just perfectly willing to use him as a political tool.
They are panicking and dying of old age, so they take any help they can get
I would like to say that transracial is a very real term for people who are trans-racial adoptees "child of one race or ethnic group placed with parent(s) of a different race or ethnic group. An estimated 2 million children in the United States were identified as adopted in the 2010 census" (National Library of Medicine). What is so frustrating and insulting about people like Ollie London is that they treat this term as a joke and further marginalize an already marginalized community of children/people who were in trans racial adoptions
We were at University together in the same course, Applied English Language. He was very into PETA, I remember arguing about this holocaust imagery they'd used and how I'd thought it went too far. His main radicalisation seemed to happen directly after Uni. At Uni he was fairly nice 😕
As for the money to pay for the surgeries, he went to the U.S. after University and it's alleged he got into gay Republican circles. That's the supposed genesis of all of this. He's done a lot of damage to others and himself, but I think he was exploited and radicalised by those he met out there in the worst possible way.
Olí London isn’t even American… why is he involved in American politics?? And why would anyone listen to him?? It makes no sense.
Money and fame...that's what he's always motivated by.
He’s now pro israel and posts some shite. Wonder how much they pay him, it’s all about money and jumping on the bandwagon for him.
The Tom McDonald effect
His nationality doesn't matter it's a job. Lots of non Americans are war correspondents. But you're mistaken thinking it's an American issue considering this is an outcome of many global preceding events. And Europe will be the first to suffer immediate consequences with gas and oil sanctions that they need. It's driving up prices and people in the UK cant heat their homes. Politics are more interconnected than you think especially with the US meddling all over the damn place.
Milo is also British - it's a thing, apparently.
It's funny hearing a recount of Gamgergate being 'woke pushback before woke pushback' now because it's honestly what 'woke' me up from the alt-right pipeline that a lot of young men end up on. I kept wondering what I was missing about all the outrage and thinking how ludicrous it all sounded. I guess that's technically ONE good thing that came of that stupid shit.
Meghan Kelly, if attending church "stopped" Oli London from wanting to "transition", maybe they* never were trans to begin with. If "church attendance" "cured" queerness in general, we would have noticed by now.
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Since when does oli go by they them? Isn't the whole thing that oli is cis?
@@ea5145 Didnt they come out as non-binary, before their right-wing pivot? I'm so confused (and exhausted) by this person!
@@ea5145there was a whole video about coming out as non binary and using they them and another set of pronouns that I can’t remember that are not pronouns (I can’t remember if they were Jim/in or Kor/ean and I don’t care to)
as someone whose seen the shit oli london has done since the plastic surgery and using bts / jimin for attention, i am so glad to see you covering how they have spiraled out of control
Oh I assume you haven't seen the shit he's done recently, he claims to be a "detrans Korean women" despite the fact that he was trying to "transition" into fucking Jimin 💀💀
same here!!
Totally unrelated but Kookie looks so good in your profile picture
they're like ... a roach that won't die
@@35thrat literally 😭😭
Trans racial IS "a thing." It was coined by people who are adopted into families of different racial backgrounds than them. It describes the relationship between their race and the way that it is impacted by being raised by a family from a different race. People have just taken the term to mean something different.
I know this is a terrible comparison, but when you said "if these people just got successful in what they originally wanted to do, they wouldn't have become this", my brain just went to "if Hi*ler got into the art school..."
See also: All of the right-wing pundits who failed to make it big in Hollywood and/or on the stand-up comedy circuit.
8:30 Apparently, Oli didn't really have to pay for them because the surgeons were involved in advertisement contracts together. Both parties benefitted from each other which is also one of the reasons (aside from addiction and mental health problems) why Oli went through so many.
So apparently Oli London has never actually READ "The Road Less Travelled" (/s), or perhaps he failed that block in school. Sheesh.
That thumbnail is devastating! Oli clearly needs professional help but has enough money to avoid it forever.
@ville__ Hi, Oli! 😄
@ville__oli talking to himself www
@ville__if you can't say something devastatingly witty, why say anything at all?
He needed help years ago
@@alex-qd6ofcan you & others please report this guy, i see him across so many vids i watch saying this stuff all the time. i have been reporting them across all the vids i find, he's a real failed troll cuz he never gets that much interactions, but nothings happened.
for some reason 🙄 whenever i talk about the evils of capitalism, it gets auto-deleted, but for some reason 🙄🙄🙄 this guy can say death threats with a trans slur repeatedly with no consequences.
Lolol the "road less traveled" is...being cis? Not sure I follow that one
That's because it's in Narcissist. Allow me to translate: I found the marks for my grift, conformists who want to think they're non-conformists.
@@Cat_Woods narCISsist, good one :D
@@JohnnyTightIips LOL. I didn't actually see that. I just thought he sounded narcissistic. But that is a good one.
Oli London, like so many people, fundamentally misunderstands the "Road Less Traveled" poem - the two roads in the poem are equally traveled. Taking one road is the same as taking the other. Frost's poem is him wanting to believe that taking one road over the other will "make all the difference," when in reality there's no true difference between them.
nothing could have prepared me for matt saying "you spending a night with oli london sounds like a short film at cannes" and taylor responding with "it was in cannes during the film festival, actually"
Oli London is quoting "The Road Not Taken."
Lemme get this straight: He got $300,000 worth of plastic surgery, 32 procedures (God Knows how he paid for that), some to look more Korean (including shortening his member to be more "authentically Asian"), then decided to transition to a woman for a few months, THEN stopped identifying as a woman and pursuing plastic surgeries.
And the fact he "stopped" was the "Road Not Taken? THAT's the path few people travel down?
That train left the station A LOOOONG time ago.
And this story is so insane and anecdotal I don't see how much assistance it can be to anyone except (maybe) people toying with the idea of $300 k worth of plastic surgery, because he's a walking PSA against that.
I genuinley see a lot of Luka Magnotta in Olli and that scares me
He kept escalating until he got the right wings attention. What will he do when they have no need for him anymore, and the spotlight turns off?
I see what you mean! Wow I hadn’t thought of that before
Oh crap, same
I think it's the surgery, mainly.
Wait is that the guy who killed a guy and filmed a snuff film?
@@AlexHideryeah, he also mailed the body parts to politicians and schools
We spoke about Oli in my politics class and I remember being acc so shocked. My teacher, poor man, always argued on the other side of things (he would never express his acc opinions, he was just getting us used to debating opposing views) and i like- couldn’t even say anything cause it was so shocking 😭😭
oli has been an attention seeker since the beginning
True
I think the closest thing to a media company on the left is Nebula. Not sure if that counts as more of a cooperative than a corporation though 🤔
You have the most calming voice. I could listen to you read a dishwasher manual, honestly.
Oily Croydon makes me think of a Luka Magnotta who went for K-Pop and hate speech politics, instead of unspeakable cruelty and violence. A histrionic need for attention, no matter what.
I think he wanted to be as famous as Dylan mulvaney and was only ever “trans” to grift it. Once he realized he wasn’t as likable and not making money he “detransitioned” to an easier grift. If he achieved Dylan mulvaney status he would still be “trans”
I'm not sure about this interpretation.
.... do u need some dressing in that word salad?
40:12 he’s so involved in american politics I forgot he was british till he started talking lol
I had no idea Milo declared himself no longer gay (and apparently 'demoted' his husband to a housemate). What a sad, pathetic illustration of conservative gays losing their own humanity for their hatred.
Just sat down with a big bowl of ramen and searched for some background watching videos… bone apple the teeth!!!!
just to clarify, trans racial IS a thing but not in the oil london way at all (or in the way you would think). babies being adopted/raised in families of a different ethnic background (usually poc babies raised by white families), separated from their culture sometimes consider themselves trans racial
Lost my mind as soon as I saw the title. GET EM MATT!!!
Also, has anyone heard from Libs of Tiktok since Taylor absolutely demolished her by simply asking her questions?
Oli London looks like them giants from Attack on Titan 🤨
I have been afraid of Oli London for many years.
Oli reminds me a lot of Roseanne Barr and Yiannopolis. He genuinely does not seem well and whatever he's got going on inside seems to be driving a lot of whatever it is he's doing. I pity him in the same way I pity Barr and Yiannopolis and I just want him to go away and get help.
"If you've never heard of Oli London, first, I want what you have..." Thank you for affirming me!!
I saw this video's title and rubbed my hands together- let's GOOOOOOO!
I saw a comment that asked whether it would be okay to just get surgery to look like another race. I'm also interested in knowing, not because I want to do such surgery, but because the topic came up more than once in my life before. I don't really understand why people feel the need to look like someone else to feel beautiful.
To be fair, people have been doing that kind of modifications for years already, and it's still pretty controversial yet accepted. I'm referring to the bbl craze that had started some years ago that attempts to replicate the bombshell black woman's body. There's also variations of cat eyeliner that mimics the look of pheonix eyes of East Asians. It's all for the pursuit of beauty that we replicate each other despite silencing the other. If we were better at accepting ourselves and those who look a little different whether it be skin tone or facial features, I think it wouldn't be such a touchy subject.
In the case of Oli London, however, there's a distinct community that claim to be transracial, taking on a little more than aesthetic to claim an identity that they simply do not have. It is not necessarily an ethnic group's looks - though that certainly contributes to ethnic experiences - but the society and culture that it develops and resides in that determines its identity the most. Unlike gender, where variations of which can be found within a single body, ethnicity depends on your direct, physical community. You cannot be what you haven't been immersed in, and even if you were to adopt certain customs, it would still be after you've formed your previous core worldview. You can be adopted into a community, but you can't claim it as yours first. That's colonizer mindset.
Maybe we're more interested in the lookism of it all, but I think it's important to compare it with the video's topic. For the record, I'm Filipino and think it's fine to find inspiration in the beauty of others to emulate through yourself. But it's also important to be proud of your own beauty. In a better world, we wouldn't have to replicate others to feel beautiful, but here we are anyway.
While I'm at it, I may as well add that the identity of ethnic groups is particularly sensitive because of globalization and long histories of colonization that fragmented the identities of these "ethnic" groups. In a globalized world, it's difficult to claim or accept a heritage that you were not born in. As we discover the pitfalls of a white cishetero normative society, we can turn back to our roots to discover a heritage that makes more sense as people. The current homogenized culture that we participate in today is, after all, one that lacks humanity in favor of personified individuality.
The story of the transracial is interesting to me because it seems similar to what I had to go through as a Filipino American. It seemed that I was pulling from a world that I did not belong to, but still had ancestors and family in and could still feel welcomed because of it. I think that there is a longing or desire for these people to be transracial - despite having no ancestral roots (but maybe some unfortunate ancestral history) in these cultures - because of the fragmentation of our modern globalized society. It's not necessarily a problem, but a symptom of our society. People need a sense of belonging, and transracialism has been the result.
Just some extra thoughts from my own experience, I'm clearly not an expert.
Oli London's idea of "becoming another race" is the last installment of w. supremacy/colonisation. It's aligned with a century-old tradition of culture appropriation, culture vultures, blackfishing, etc. It's just another way to repackage the same old racism.
Changing one's race is a political move made to benefit people financially, sociologically, etc. Racial grifters want to have access to "better treatment" in their target racial community, than the one they were receiving in their original one. Plus, "ambiguity", aka proximity to w. is their main appeal in their target racial community.
As far as I know, gender transition doesnt work like that at all. People transition to benefit their mental health and they usually do it at a great cost. Like most queer people, it costs us way more to come out/be more visible/transition than to keep assimilating. That's why these 2 situations are only similar on paper, imo. I'm a Black woman and I would get LESS visibility/opportunity than a "racially ambiguous" grifter but I get MORE opportunities, when people perceive me as straight.
"You can be adopted into a community, but you can't claim it as yours first. That's colonizer mindset."
Thank you. You've put into words what made me uncomfortable about the notion of "transracial" in the sense Oli London used the word (as opposed to transracial people through adoption).
I think that first, people forget that makeup exists (not clack/yellowface) and can hint at features looking differently (like u mentioned with eyeliner). second, I feel like it’s more of an interesting conversation for those who are multi-racial, and they feel like they belong more to certain groups (like if someone was half-white and half-chinese and wanted more than to wear makeup-a deeper level than physically “belonging”).
I’m an asian person adopted by white parents, so that sense of wanting to belong to a community through looks is what I’m thinking about, and what you’ve touched on. Transracial, where trans is not “transform” but rather “across” is the point missed as transgender is still seen as a physical state of being, rather than mental or spiritual levels. (I don’t get to have this conversation about these topics since I’m in a red state, but I hope that nothing is so poorly expressed that it reads wrong!)
But for aesthetics (not a deeper reason) and this video, what Ollie did is basically permanent yellowface.
@@StarsinRain I'm transgender. Transgender means: Gender identity and gender assigned at birth (you can say biological sex at birth) do not match. In that sense, "trans" does mean "across", across genders, and it involves body and mind.
Transitioning is then the way into the physical and social states that match the gender identity.
I'm not sure what you mean by "transgender is seen as physical state as opposed to mental or spiritual"? /gen question, not criticism
I FORGOT HE WAD BRITISH AND HEARING HIM SPEAK AT 39:56 WAS SUCH A JUMPSCARE
Ollie London is literally insane
There's a definite personality disorder going on there.
The thing about high school friend reminded me of a couple years ago, my favourite cousin, who has a really long history as an ally and fighting for lgbtq rights, was sharing Jordan Peterson stuff because he had fallen down antivaxx rabbit holes, without any awareness that JBP is one of the biggest purveyors of anti-trans garbage in Canada (cousin and I are both Canadian).
Ironically, "The Road Not Taken" poem is about a grifter. They say "Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay. In leaves no step had trodden black" .... there was NO road that was less traveled. And the last stanza "I shall be telling this with a sigh... I took the one less traveled by". Literally, it's about someone lying about the roads to seem more important.
This video was recommended to me, and I am so glad it was. I checked some of your other videos too. Subbed!
I just want to say that I am from the MENA region and have felt like there aren’t enough creators addressing the fast descent into fascism and rabid racism currently plaguing so many parts of the world. It makes me so happy to see creators challenging the narrative and dispelling lies.
Happy pride, Matt, and thank you for speaking out! Us MENA progressives are trying as well, so I know it might not be easy.
You can't even get Facial Feminisation Surgery on the NHS. I know I have tried.
Matthew really getting the heavy hitters on the show! What's that saying? "You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep"? Something like that, yeah. Anyway, whatever, it's fine. The point being I know what the vibes are around here and I like it.
Thank you for attending my TEDTalk...
When Matt accidentally says "Jack Frost" instead of "Robert Frost," I picture that freaky 1998 CGI snowman writing terrible poetry that Oli finds 25 years later and goes, "Oh. Wow. Profound." 😂😂
Thank you for this 😂
Hey Matt, I've never heard of Oli London before; in fact I'm usually not privy to the people/topics you cover on this channel. So I definitely appreciate the fact that you always give some background/context before launching into the meat of the episode
Conservatives fearmongering about DEI hirings are really ironic. To be a conservative grifter all you need to do is be famous and pass a litmus test. Look, even a kid holding a gun could get into FOX News!
I was listening to this as I was walking and thought to myself "wow, this shit is wild". I'm only 20 minutes in. How is there more??
As a French person I have one advice : read “Illusions lost” by Balzac. A banger nineteenth century novel about turning into a rotten piece of shit bc you wanted to be successful and climb up the ladder of the media system, about a man whose only objective was to be recognised and praised and famous, having no particular beliefs or integrity. All these characters we see nowadays pop up everywhere make me think so much of the protagonist of this book.
Thank you for the book recommendation.
@@sonnentausnest hope you will like it :-)
If you know the origins of figures in the political commentary outlet the Daily Wire, you will find that almost all of them are failures in the entertainment industry. Definitely people who got bitter after trying to get big and famous.
I’m crying why did I not know you had a RUclips channel 😭😭😭 I’ve followed you on twitter for like 4 years HELP
His face has been "lifted" so many times, it can legally be considered a member of the mile high club
The fact that he’s like “I found Jesus he saved me” yet he sides with people who’s killing innocent people ew
Oh god. Haven't seen anything about Oli in years and this is what he's up to?? 😭
Oli London banned me on Twitter for joking that God wouldn't be happy that he stole a motel bible for a selfie. I think being banned by him is a feat in light of his desperation for attention.
Not gunna lie, I googled who that lady was at 37:03 because I was CONVINCED that was Phoebe from Friends.
Omg same! I had to rewind like three times, to make SURE that wasn’t Lisa Kudrow
It is Lisa Kudrow. It's a part she did from the movie "Death to 2020."
@@ashk7244 aaaah that makes sense! I guess you learn something new every day😁
@@millesmedegaard It's a hilarious movie and her part is so funny! I recommend checking it out 😆
Me too!
Kind of tangential, but I have no respect for the daily mail and the key go fuck off.
I live in a small big town in the USA, and they took the suicide of a close friend of mine and sensationalized it. It turned a tragic situation into a nightmare for friends and family.
I will never forgive them.
Happy Pride Month 🌈
Thank you for being awesome sauce always and here’s to creating a fun space for all of us.
It’s honestly frustrating that the right pretends Oli was manipulated and victimized by the trans community when all of us were trying to kick his ass out for years.
You're right that Olli could have just been Amanda Lepore
Transracial people do actually exist who are of one race but got adopted by another race and thus grow up looking different from the rest of their family.
There is a korean woman named who was adopted by a black family from the South who wrote a book about her experience. Her book is called "Too Much Soul: The Journey of an Asian Southern Belle" by Cindy Wilson.
Overall, transracial people don't like that Rachel Dolazel and the likes have become the face of transracial.
Amazing episode, and you two are a great team together! Really appreciate how you locate one sad individual into a system and explain this person as an illuminator of that system, a system which we all need to understand better. We need more media literacy like this !
Just a note: Apparently, transracial refers to adoptive families in which adopting adults and adopted children are not the same race. Love the video. I did not know that Oli London existed... um... I have been robbed of my innocence 🤣💜
That Robert Frost poem says _I will say_ I took the road less traveled. It's about the construction of a grift.
I wasn't sure about this one until you compared Oli to Rachel Dolezal, a person I found endlessly horrifying but also fascinating. Rachel was also "outed" by other people, while Oli is obviously an attention seeker.
The thing about Dolezal is that she made a *positive* impact to society, something her Black adoptive brother acknowledged. She apparently did excellent work against racism and police violence before her cover blew. And as far as I'm aware, all she's jeopardizing to this day affects herself only. She doesn't seem to drag anyone else down. And even if her claiming to be Black is in itself disrepectful, I can see her approach came from a place of respect... somehow. I don't know. Hers is a really interesting case in any way, offering way more nuance than Oli London would.
That poem is about how both paths in the wood are the same, and the speaker will later look back and make a narrative about his past choices that valorizes them bc thats what people do, regardless of whether it actually meant anything substantial.
Oli London being adopted as 'the face' of, well, anything is ironic. Do they sew a new face on every time?
i remember learning about oli london in the late 2010s specifically in kpop spaces and how much of a freak koreaboo he was and it’s insane to see him still in the public consciousness for completely different reasons
oh that was plastic surgery? thought that inflammation was from their toxicity within. 10/10 episode on an international grift goblin
Where do people think anticapitalists make the money to have slush funds to pay for anticapitalist messaging? How would it help anybody's bottom line to invest in anticapitalist messaging?
And yeah, a lot of progressives don't go so far as to outright critique capitalism, but most of the progressive issues would at least cost capital some money... healthcare, labor rights, childcare, etc
I read that as oil london and for some reason thought this vid was about BP
THEE Taylor Lorenz?!?! Let’s GOOOOO
babe wake up matt just posted
"Surgery should be harder to access" says the man who had to travel to different countries and drop obscene amounts of money in order to get surgery
I really don't think you could be on the right or conservative in any kind of way and be an expert on anything. Those are the complete antithesis of each other. Every conservative pundit is a grifter who tell conservatives what they want to hear. They literally have nothing else.
Oli London's a grifter, but he's a meaningfully-different type of grifter from, say, Blaire White, Arielle Scarcella, Dave Rubin, JP Sears, The Quartering, or Sneako, because he demonstrates an exceptional level of mental illness that is frankly pitiable and horrifying. The people who are in it mainly or purely for power and/or wealth are grotesque their own way, but Oli London really seems to me like he'd go to any lengths to stay in the spotlight, whether positively or negatively.
@cantin8697 , more than anything, I'd love a magic wand that would reveal the degree to which any of these people believe their own BS, because it can be hard to tell, and it's something I am eternally curious about. Most humans cannot tolerate the cognitive dissonance created by saying one thing and doing another, and will thus try to bridge that gap, even without realizing they're doing it. With the exception of some hardcore psychopaths and Dark Triad types, most people who espouse something long enough will ultimately come to believe it and act on it, because that's just how the human psyche operates.
So, yeah, I have few doubts Oli London actually believes his own rhetoric.
The first time I remember seeing Oli London was in like 2016 or something. The era of those "living doll" documentaries on RUclips. He also had a doc and I believe he claimed he wanted to look like Ken? I'm not sure about the last part, but I don't remember him saying anything about wanting to be Korean.
I remember that! I am pretty certain that before the K-pop thing, his thing was trying to look like a Ken doll.
Its just infuriating how they just pull any anti lgbt gay person into their fold