What's crazy is that a $45000 Laredo is considered a "value." I mean considering $70000 is fully loaded, 45k doesn't sound like a lot, but its by no means affordable. I'm in shock with how expensive automobiles are getting!
That's because people keep buying them at these high prices and just getting 72/84 month loans nowadays. Used to be crazy to get anything over 48 months.
Jesse I remember in the '60s, you couldn't get car financing for over a year! But then again, the car warranties were for only a year, the cars were...crapolas and a $15,000 car was an expensive car! 😂 FYI, a new VW bug would set you back about $800 and a VW bus 1,700! And they would throw in some flowers to wear on your head on your way to Frisco!
@@malinois71 you are 100% right! People will continue to buy and continue to take longer and longer loans. If 10 year 10% loans become a thing people will opt for those lol
They've been creeping up for years lol. Welcome to the future 🥲 There is a point now where most wpuld rather take the loans and drive something they actually want (especially to have a warranty) as opposed to dealing with something that more than likey serves as nothing more than a throwaway that in many cases turns into a money pit anyway. Not sure how I feel on all that but it is the thing now it seems
I work at the Mahle Behr manufacturing plant in Dayton Ohio where I've been for almost 18yrs. For 11 of those years, I've worked in the department where I've built the wk2/wd hvac and engine cooling module(ECM) for the grand cherokee in all its rooms and the Dodge Durango. I am proud to say that we are now building the hvac and ecm for the 22 grand cherokee and wagoneer as well, the WL platform as was alluded to. So proud my hard work is part of this beautiful vehicle.
@@charlieboozer82 Ignore the immature haters. My 2016 GC summit is already over 130k and still going strong without any major failures. The Hvac has held up strong. I have a question though, one of my work colleagues has a Cherokee KL. Who manufactures the Hvac for that and is it of the same quality as the one on my GC.
@@paulj9821 thank you for that. The hvac and engine cooling module in your vehicle was probably built by myself or one of my coworkers. We take quality very seriously and our record speaks for itself, plus I highly doubt we'd be in business as long as we have been- since the 60s, long before I came along- if we were building crap parts. I'm not too sure about where the hvac component for the regular cherokee comes from.
I just bought one on the Altitude trim for my wife and I think it comes well equiped and looks great with that blacked out look. Asked for the towing pkg and got a deal with the dealer here in Canada. The v6 pentastar still delivers good towing for the trailer and that trim comes with trailer sway control. Love what they did with standard equipment! Truly is a great bang for the buck on the lower trims!
I agree with Tommy 100% on that Laredo. I’m debating between Laredo or Altitude so please don’t forget to include a more affordable (Base Model) on one of your next reviews. Keep up the great work guys 🤙🏼
We have a 2018 limited with the hemi and all the safety and tech options. I was nervous about it since reliability can be an issue but it has had absolutely no problems and has about 60k miles on it now. My grandparents are in love with the thing. Definitely would buy the new generation.
My 104k mile 2014 has had more break on it than all my other cars (3 other cars over 25 years) put together. I still like mine a lot but I sincerely hope you have better luck than I have had.
60K miles? Get ready to replace your first water pump. My '11 5.7 Overland needed one at 65K and ~120K. It was one of my favorite vehicles that I have every owned but, man it got expensive to keep it going. When the air suspension started leaking I had no choice but to trade it around 135K miles. I do like the look of these new ones but if I ever get one, I'll definitely make sure I put a 10 year/150,000 mile warranty on it.
The Laredo is 45k with power liftgate and sunroof. That's insane for a base model with cloth seats. Not to mention Jeep's interest rate for one of these was at 6% with a credit score at 740 and above. I was recently in the market for a new suv and couldn't find a limited under 54k. That's what dealers were charging with market adjustment fees and that 6% interest rate.
Right. When I bought my well equipped '14 limited 4x4, it stickered at $42k, paid $37.5k. It felt like a great value at the time. $57k for a new one is insane.
It’s not ridiculous when you consider inflation and just how much nicer of a vehicle it is. It also has significantly more standard features. It is quieter, rides better, handles better, brakes better, and the interior is in a completely different league.
@@ksantolini Exactly. Just because it says Grand Cherokee and uses the same 3.6 V6 doesn't mean it is the same vehicle. It is all new from the ground up. Literally the only carry over parts are the headlights switches, wiper controls, and engine/transmission (though they are tuned to be smoother and more refined)... Everything else is 100% new. Go actually sit in and drive the car before you say shit like it is not worth the extra money. It is a much nicer vehicle in every way . Well worth the money.
Just leased one of these today! It's even better in person. I had 2 years left on my 2020 Jeep Cherokee lease and Chrysler Capital didn't charge me any fees or anything extra to do a "pull-ahead". I have been leasing with them since 2017. I actually had about $3000 of positive equity on the Cherokee. So excited to spend the next 3 years in my GC!
Thank You Mr Tommy seriously man thank you for this video. I've personally been in the hunt for my wife and I vehicles and I truly have decided what I want, a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for how I travel to and from work and how we like to go to our beautiful mountains here in East Tennessee it will be a perfect vehicle for myself and my wife has decided she wants a 4runner and thanks to you and the gentlemen for your channels we've seen enough to make our decision, thank you and have a Blessed day everyone
@@theone5404 - only a fool would disregard reliability when discussing the purchase of a $60k-$70k vehicle!! Also, the OP specifically spoke about “…buying Jeep again due to the low reliability.”! Where did you see the word ‘lease’ in this thread?
@@Bacnow well, 85% of the luxury car buyers are fools. All cars come with a warranty. Use it. The word buy means lease when it comes to buying cars in this time. Many that buy cars often get extended warranties. I don't buy into that old school nonsense of chrysler isn't reliable or German cars aren't reliable. Nonsense. You take care of the car and put the proper fuel in it, it'll take care of you. Never had a problem with my Jeeps or Audi's. 54 thousand and 98 thousand perspectively I keep my cars for 3.5 years and pay them off in cash over the course of 2 months of $9500 a week. That's relatively quick. After they're paid for, I don't have a single problem with them. However, my wife's current Lexus, Cadillac prior and Infiniti prior to that all had an issue or 2. They were supposed to be so great and reliable. My mother had a pricey amount of trouble out of her 4-Runner and none out of her Durango. So, I'm different and buy what appeals to oneself. Most people do. When spending this kind of money, you get what you want and not worry about so called reliability. In case something go's wrong, trade that car in and get another one.
I like the L my mom just got one absolutely love it drives nice the overland fully loaded spec with luxury 2 package fully loaded and all dealer add on options
Tommy does a good job letting know what this version is all about. I just got my 2021 GC Limited with the 5.7 (my be the last 5.7 WK2 ever built). I feel I got a deal even in this market because to get a 2022 with the 5.7 is significantly more expensive than the 2021. The drive lines are the same in 2022. No low range in the lower trim levels on the 2022. No sunroof or nav in the the 2022 limited trim. For me, they did reduce manufacturing defects over the 10 years of production. Not perfect but acceptable. Looked at other products. I wanted a better balance driving experience than the 3.6 provides. Good luck with the new ones.
TFL Should consider doing an offroad review for the Jeep GC 2022 4X4 Limited as more customers are likely to purchase the mid-range option, especially seeing these exuberant prices.
I like the way this new Cherokee looks -- and I *REALLY* like the color on that $57K example! Reminds me of the 2015 Ecoboost Mustang convertible I owned before I traded it in April of 2019 for a Ranger XLT. It was a color Ford called Ruby Red. Really nice color, especially in the sunlight. They had a "candy" mixed in with the clearcoat, and it really popped.
Got my wife an Altitude L. I really like it. I would have loved to get the Overland (I had the previous gen overland). But we couldn’t justify that price. I leased my 2019 Jeep Overland for 550 per month. Now it would have been into the 700s. I took a quick drive it in and I like it.
Went with the 22 Summit Reserve and so far besides the crazy price, I have no regrets!! Amazing Technology features, safety & comfort!! I do feel that this new model / redesign is slightly shorter / has less space than its previous Gen. besides that, great job Jeep!!
I just bought the 2024 Summit and added the passenger side screen, night vision (which is a great safety feature) and the MacIntosh stereo. Picking it up tomorrow. Its basically the same package as the Reserve without the ventilated rear seats and 20 vs 21 inch wheels but with the added night vision which I wanted. Its absolutely stunning. I really like the massaging front seats for long drives. The price is steep but it compares favorably to the BMW X5 and MB GLE350 which I've owned 2. To get those German cars appointed like the Summit would cost well over $80k. Inflation has really taken its toll on auto prices plus the new tech is not cheap.
The new GC is significantly more expensive. The Trailhawk starts at $51,670. My '18 Trailhawk started at $43,295: $8500 less...! This is a big jump, and the only practical difference I see is a bit more ground clearance and the sway bars. Destination charge is an outrageous $1800! ($1100 on the '18) Huge profit center for Jeep. I am left wondering about the Trailhawk's seats. Before, Trailhawk was the only way to get the much superior SRT seats in a non-SRT GC. I wonder if that's still the case? Also, if you want a (sluggish) V8, it's worth noting it's not available on the Limited anymore, meaning you'll have pay a lot more for a higher end trim level to get it.
I was going to pay a $670/mo lease for a 2020 JGC Limited 4x4 WK2 w/ a luxury package. I leased a 2022 JGC Limited 4x4 WL w/ a customer preferred package for $27/mo more. Extra $27/mo is very much worth it 👌🏽
As longest people pay prices will be high -it’s the dealers that have a freedom to set the pricing as they like and seat back and rake all profits-will see them next year when economy collapse
This Jeep the overland is so comfortable. With the higher upgrade packages. You get heat and cold lumber massage seats. I have nerve damage in my tailbone and so I need a really comfortable seat. I tested 25 passenger seats from cheaper and much more expensive luxury brands. The massage systems in other brands have. None compared to the Jeep. I fell asleep in it. During the test drive. So if you have a bad back and want to drive longer then 3o min get one. I built an Overland 3 row with the two higher tech and tow package. On the Jeep website. And came to a price of $63,645.
We bought the Overland late 2022 and it’s an excellent vehicle for long trips. The seats, stereo, and interior upsold us from the Limited. No regrets and no issues so far
@Bluemagoo2002 I still love it. We drove from Ogden to Denver for 9 hours and no back pain!!! And with the seats down loads of room for our dogs. They are big dogs. For Christmas, we are visiting our son, who is at ft Lewis Seattle. That will be a true test.
Just wanted to say thank you again for this video I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and love it and for the most part I just need a simple 4x4 and for what you get in the new ones well I'm personally sold, thank you so much and till next time, have a Blessed day everyone
When it's time to replace my '14 JGC Limited 4x4, it won't be with one of these. No two speed transfer case on the limited? Shiny black plastic everywhere? And it's $15k more than my nearly identically equipped '14? What a disappointment.
The limited has low range and hill decent control just like your 14’. It is also not 15k more lol. It is about 8k more and comes with significantly mote standard features. It is much quieter, smoother ride, better handling, and a significantly nicer interior. It is well worth the money. Better in every way.
@@jjchockey According to this video, the tested limited did not have a two speed transfer case. Also, it stickered at $57k, which is $15k more than the $42k my similarly specked '14 stickered at. Standard features here are irrelevant given that mine and the example here are similarly specked. I didn't say the new one lacked hill decent control so I don't know why you brought that up. Is the new one quieter? Does it have a smoother ride I don't know. And you don't either because you haven't driven both. Anyway, if you feel the new one is a great value, feel free to go ahead and buy one. If it was my 57k,. I would pick a Mercedes GLE 4matic over this. When I bought mine, there was nothing on the market and in its price range that could compete. That's just not the case now.
At $17k more than I paid for my ‘14, it must be more reliable. The $8k of warranty work I’ve had done would go away! Thankfully I bought a Mopar warranty online that helped (highly recommended)
Is it possible to get air suspension control on limited model? I’ve test drive Grand Cherokee L, and I really wish there is another button on the right.
We're moving to New England soon and a 4x4 is a must have due to the snow so this is at the top of our list, but will be sad to see the Challeger Scat Pack go. I love what they have done with the interior of the new GC, especially that you can get cloth seats with the heated option since leather doesn't work for us in colder weather and they are pretty attractive. It has all of the safety features, remote start and driving assistance features as well. Actually, the only thing I can think of that we would want added to the red 4x4 Laredo shown here is fog lights. It's not a bad price for what you get and we'd delete the sunroof because we never use them which would save $1,095. Wouldn't need the passenger screen, either, as the husband or I would be on our smartphones on a long trip anyway. That trim level absolutely meets our needs. We haven't ruled out the 4xe for better mileage, but we trust the reliability of the 3.6L. So happy with the new exterior design as well. Looking forward to test driving one!
In 5-7 years the passenger screen will no longer work, the tranny will be on its second rebuild, and the air suspension will be on its way out😂 I still want one tho!
@L H same here. My 2014 is an Alaskan Jeep and has seen some really bad weather and always got us home. So reliable I’m giving it to my oldest when she goes to Anchorage for college and I’m getting a 2022! 😂
I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, and by no means are they cheap, but to compare the new GC to the previous editions isn’t a fair match. The 2022 Laredo has more options and convenience features than the previous WK Limited and is evenly equipped with the WK2, with the exception of leather seats. The question is whether they moved it too far upscale. As far as looks, Jeep has apparently intentionally dramatically changed the looks and style of each new generation. My personal favorite was the WK with the sharp corners and compact size and the semi-circle headlights. I just wish they’d go back to the flip window hatch.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the pricing for the upcoming 4xe trailhawk version and to see what is standard and what is available to add. I will definitely be keeping this one towards the front of the list of vehicles to get.
I thought I might be able to find a deal on a left over 2021 WK2 now the 2022 WL is hitting showrooms, but it's the opposite! Some dealers are asking for a $7k "market adjustment" over MSRP for 2021s that they have on the lot, but will let me order a 2022 for MSRP. Crazy!
Every approx 6 years a new grand cherokee is introduced Tommy ... You guys are great your content is amazing please please if you can try to talk to us about the grand cherokee 2005 to 2010 i would appreciate it
I have Quadra-Drive on my aged WJ. I totally need it. Every winter. I live in the frozen hell. Rural Norway. I love it, especially when I pull Land Rovers and big X7s up from the ditches.
Tommy, why do you think that people won't take these $40, $50, $60, and $70k vehicles off-road. Despite your modest means, you take a $35k vehicle off-road regularly. Also how is this different from someone taking a Jeep Rubicon or Badlands Bronco off-road (both arguably $50k+ vehicles)?
The difference is 90% of people buying those broncos won’t be taking them off road either. No different from this overpriced unit.. Tommys wrangler is priced rignt at what a nice sxs would cost
There's a different between going off-road and trying to do Mickey's Hottub. Not all off-roading is extreme or involves people throwing their rigs off Black Bear Pass.
Can someone PLEASE answer this question? It appears the summit reserve comes with a passenger screen but the summit does not. But the limited version comes with the passenger screen as shown at 7:58? How does this make sense
I think its packages and pricing, some people while they might like the summit with a screen, someone else might not. So not all limited ones will have screens either
I would have a hard time spending 70 grand on the summit reserve. I’ve got a 2019 grand Cherokee trail hawk that’s had a lot of issues. Love the car but im probably done with jeeps after this.
@@kervensferdinand669 so you just assume I don’t take care of it? Two of the big issues I’ve had with the car have nothing to do with taking care of it.
I ordered the Summit Reserve with night vision earlier this month…I wanted the V8, bigger rims and upgraded 19 speaker audio system and RGB ambient lights…
27:38 agreed. although I think I would spring for some leather and wood. simply because Jeeps wood is pretty good, and I'm not a fan of Stellantis's clothe (too scratchy)
It's already been announced that the current-generation Durango will be the last, but it'll continue another year or two. The JGC L is the three-row replacement for the Durango.
I just bought the Summit. I know its pricey but if you can afford it then why not. This is my 2nd GC. I also have a 2019 Limited 4x4 that I'm giving to my daughter. I kept the MSRP sticker and was shocked to see that it was $41,000 and change. I believe I bought it for $38,000. Now to be fair it does not have the interior of the new Limited BUT it was still very nicely appointed and very comfortable. It has a sun roof but not a panoramic sunroof. There is no real wood trim. Its probably more like today's Laredo but what a great value it was just few short years earlier. Can't believe I'm paying almost $70k for a new loaded version. I will say though, the air suspension and creature comforts are on par with a BMW X5 and Mercedes GLE350 (I've owned 2 in the past). My only complaint is that middle console with the piano black plastic. Cmon Jeep! For that price it should be wood. But otherwise its a beautiful swiss knife luxury SUV that can handle just about any weather or road condition thrown at it.
@@TomazHilton Sorry LED is NOT superior, the high freq flickering bothers many people, and the light is glaring, also something most people don't realize is that LED is a COLD light so if you have snow on the headlamp lenses it won't melt like it would with HID/ halogen. Bad move in my view.
@@TomazHilton I can detect it, but not all are aware of it. Once you notice it you cannot UN-notice it . lol I get headaches due to that flickering. Even though most people cannot detect it our eyes do see it with our high frame rate perception but most people will filter it out, I can't. The other problem with LED is the ability to have a high CRI. They can have 3000, 2700, 3500, 4000k but the quality of the light just doesn't match a good quality halogen or incandescent light.
@@TomazHilton I was driving in front of someone that had led lights and theirs were flickering like crazy it was annoying and gave me a headache. I don’t even notice led flickering but it happens
i have 2017 limited and its been killing i dont know if these new ones are better or not in term of reliability you know fun to drive handling road noise ???
Great review! Unfortunately, it’s an FCA product with some of the worst reliability in America. They break & then FCA’s terrible service either won’t or can’t fix them. They should keep the lemon law attorneys gainfully employed for a while.
Literally happened with my 2021 wrangler. Trash dealer kept it for 60 days and then told me it was “normal” that the rear end was knocking lol. And when they refuse to fix something and say it’s “normal” and you try to work with jeep on a buyback they literally will not talk to you. Be ready to get a lawyer or trade it because those are you only options. CJDR have the absolute WORST mechanics at every dealership I have dealt with over the last 6 years. They have done things to my trucks and Jeep’s you would not believe on simple service issues.
Remember when the WK2 was considered brand new back in 2011 and they did the same kind of review like this with the same red colour, time surely flies. The WK2 was still somewhat buff looking from the rear, and those acceleration numbers surely looked better than what this thing got. This happens when you add a bunch of electric crap dead weight without any power increase
The WL is supposedly 250 lbs. lighter than the WK2 so unless there’s some other changes like gear ratios, it should be as quick or quicker than the outgoing model.
It’s a nicer vehicle in every way and has significantly more standard equipment then last years Laredo. 10” digital gauge cluster is standard, 8.4” screen standard, LED lights standard, emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, significantly nicer interior, quieter, and better ride. Well worth 4k.
This Laredo seems to be optioned much better then the outgoing models but I would prefer a different wheel and tire package. I don't mind the 18's but I would like an A/T tire and perhaps an inexpensive black steel wheel or a dark grey/charcoal wheel.
Just bought 2023 grand Cherokee limited First, we had an issue with our trunk door being unevenly closed, which more likely will cause water damage, they fixed it under the warranty but it was not an easy task going through with dealerships, customer service, or the service center. Anyways after that issue was fixed, AC blew out hot air randomly, had to make an appointment with the dealer, and had to talk to Jeep customer care, going back and forth 8 times to the dealer, but it has not been fixed. All they saying is sorry, and to be patient, all I did was be nice and patient with the dealers and Jeep customer care. It’s been my worst nightmare won't buy anything from them ever again! !!!?!?!
The G.C. Trailhawk has a disconnecting front stabilizer bar but only an LSD in the rear when the Cherokee Trailhawk has a locker in the rear? That doesn't make sense...
Yeah I've always found this strange. Why don't they use a locker in the Grand Cherokee? I've got the Trailhawk. It has the elsd and it does work good but why not a full locker?
I want to drive on soft sand on the beach. Since there's no low range selector or alternate terrain selector should I be concerned? I think it's fine since beach driving is really the only off roading I'll ever do but want to make sure.
Tow Package? Does anyone know the deal on that? The online vehicle configurator is up for the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, but it currently doesn't allow you to add a tow package. You *can* add it for the L version and for the 4xe version.
Good video After owning 2 grand Cherokee (2007 and new 2013 ) I can say it’s not reliable vehicle, bad quality , bad dealer service, bunch of recall . I did like my lifted wk2, took me places . Good luck with it .
@@ricepile1343 yes because it was a low end Mercedes product. Mercedes owned and controlled Chrysler. After FCA purchased them, that's when the improvements came.
I just got a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee for $41k after rebates yesterday. I got a laredo X model and I'm really liking the older design better cause all the shinny black and shift nob don't look good to me. Definitely in the trim I could afford (low 40s before taxes and fees). It looks so empty without the terrain options, 4 low mode, and lift buttons. I also don't like how the steering wheel so boxy and rectangular now. I'm curious to see one with altitude package to better compare with my 21.
Damn $41k? I paid $28k for my wife’s Laredo x back in 2019 new. Prices have definitely jumped. As much as I love Jeep I’m not sure my next vehicle will be a Jeep with their prices no a days..
@@omarbagent9829 yea the msrp was $37k. They had it listed online for $28k. I printed the page and went in and asked for it. They tried telling me I didn’t qualify for all those discounts cause some where rebates and some where military discounts and some other BS. I said that’s what’s listed on your website as the “internet price” and that’s what I want it for. Went back and forth and they finally agreed. Walked out getting it for the $28k
@@ricanredliner Bro, your a F’ing legend! Great way to stick it to the dealership! I made sure I took a picture of my online price as well just in case they tried changing up. One time I actually got out of a used car purchase because the dealership made a huge mistake on the contract. ( I called the loan company myself and sent them the error, couple days later dealership told me to bring car back and I got my deposit and everything back) It feels so good to win a battle with them cause they can be so grimy sometimes!!
@@omarbagent9829 yea they tried telling me their online prices are not realistic cause the online price takes all applicable rebates and discounts and deducts them all but not everyone applys for all of those. I said well that is what you have it listed as and if that’s true then it’s false advertising. After they finally agreed and acted like they were taking a hit then came the trade in negotiations which they were trying to stick me on the trade to make money back. I stood firm on that too and we ended up making the deal. After all was said and done and we were done with deal then I throw down another online print out of a 2nd Jeep and said and I want this one for me at said price also lol. I ended up getting my wife the Laredo X for $28k and I got myself a altitude for $31k which had a original msrp of $42k. I think I did well and don’t think I’d be able to pull that off again lol
Anyone who hasn’t had a car with gloss black console accents yet is in for such a horrible surprise when they scratch it to pieces the very first time they wipe the dust off of it. Lol this is a horrendous amount it and even in the base model. Man that sucks.
"Piano black" is a dumb phrase. It implies the highly lacquered wood on a piano. But for car interiors it really just means glossy black plastic. I'm much less impressed by the lower trim level quality than the above narrator. Still hard plastics in the same locations as before. I guess you'd have to jump up to Overland to get a good looking interior.
You forgot to mention Jeep's ridiculous $1,800 destination charge. I hate how manufacturers omit/hide destination charges from their advertised pricing. So 44k+ for a Pentistar V6 SUV with cloth seats and particularly the same engine found in a 2011 Chrysler 200. Yeah not thanks.
at last some use for the Giorgio platform. Although I would have much preferred it actually spawned the Alfa Romeo GTV coupe and the long overdue new iterations of E-segment cars from Alfa Romeo and Maserati.
Someone needs to explain to me why the stylish Altitude models doesn’t have an option for the 10 inch display. And why they are more expensive then when I purchased my Limited back in 2014
What's crazy is that a $45000 Laredo is considered a "value." I mean considering $70000 is fully loaded, 45k doesn't sound like a lot, but its by no means affordable. I'm in shock with how expensive automobiles are getting!
That's because people keep buying them at these high prices and just getting 72/84 month loans nowadays. Used to be crazy to get anything over 48 months.
Jesse I remember in the '60s, you couldn't get car financing for over a year! But then again, the car warranties were for only a year, the cars were...crapolas and a $15,000 car was an expensive car! 😂 FYI, a new VW bug would set you back about $800 and a VW bus 1,700! And they would throw in some flowers to wear on your head on your way to Frisco!
@@MrKozanitis we now have Inflation soon Hyper Inflation soo like between wars Germany we may need a wheelbarrow of money to buy bread.
@@malinois71 you are 100% right! People will continue to buy and continue to take longer and longer loans. If 10 year 10% loans become a thing people will opt for those lol
They've been creeping up for years lol. Welcome to the future 🥲
There is a point now where most wpuld rather take the loans and drive something they actually want (especially to have a warranty) as opposed to dealing with something that more than likey serves as nothing more than a throwaway that in many cases turns into a money pit anyway.
Not sure how I feel on all that but it is the thing now it seems
I work at the Mahle Behr manufacturing plant in Dayton Ohio where I've been for almost 18yrs. For 11 of those years, I've worked in the department where I've built the wk2/wd hvac and engine cooling module(ECM) for the grand cherokee in all its rooms and the Dodge Durango. I am proud to say that we are now building the hvac and ecm for the 22 grand cherokee and wagoneer as well, the WL platform as was alluded to. So proud my hard work is part of this beautiful vehicle.
We all know who to go to when the hvac on this overpriced turd decides to take a dump. Thanks for that!
@@doylee469 welp since our products at Mahle are of high quality, then that hopefully won't happen for a long long time. 👍🏾
@@charlieboozer82 Ignore the immature haters. My 2016 GC summit is already over 130k and still going strong without any major failures. The Hvac has held up strong.
I have a question though, one of my work colleagues has a Cherokee KL. Who manufactures the Hvac for that and is it of the same quality as the one on my GC.
@@paulj9821 thank you for that. The hvac and engine cooling module in your vehicle was probably built by myself or one of my coworkers. We take quality very seriously and our record speaks for itself, plus I highly doubt we'd be in business as long as we have been- since the 60s, long before I came along- if we were building crap parts. I'm not too sure about where the hvac component for the regular cherokee comes from.
@@charlieboozer82 Do you know who builds the HAVC modules for the new Ram trucks? Just curious, thanks.!
To me, Grand Cherokee has always been THE SUV, a beautiful vehicle.
Same
I just bought one on the Altitude trim for my wife and I think it comes well equiped and looks great with that blacked out look. Asked for the towing pkg and got a deal with the dealer here in Canada. The v6 pentastar still delivers good towing for the trailer and that trim comes with trailer sway control. Love what they did with standard equipment! Truly is a great bang for the buck on the lower trims!
Massive improvement inside and out. Exterior styling is understated and clean. The interior is leaps and bounds better than the circa 2010 design.
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Good job...looking forward to the 4xe review.
I have a GCL Summit Reserve and it’s amazing, inside and out.
I agree with Tommy 100% on that Laredo. I’m debating between Laredo or Altitude so please don’t forget to include a more affordable (Base Model) on one of your next reviews. Keep up the great work guys 🤙🏼
We have a 2018 limited with the hemi and all the safety and tech options. I was nervous about it since reliability can be an issue but it has had absolutely no problems and has about 60k miles on it now. My grandparents are in love with the thing. Definitely would buy the new generation.
My 104k mile 2014 has had more break on it than all my other cars (3 other cars over 25 years) put together. I still like mine a lot but I sincerely hope you have better luck than I have had.
How can reliability be a issue? Turn off the biased media and stick to forums. You’ll be fine.
@@pauls4002 my 2014 blew a tranny at 118k miles
@@TheMassholeMedic which is not representative of the vast majority of owners.
60K miles? Get ready to replace your first water pump. My '11 5.7 Overland needed one at 65K and ~120K. It was one of my favorite vehicles that I have every owned but, man it got expensive to keep it going. When the air suspension started leaking I had no choice but to trade it around 135K miles. I do like the look of these new ones but if I ever get one, I'll definitely make sure I put a 10 year/150,000 mile warranty on it.
I like the WK 2 style better, perhaps because I own one.
Much better.
From generation to generation they keep on straying further from its root, which was suppose to be a offroad vehicle...
Yup. I have the 2015 summit. It still looks new.
I had a '98, Gen 1. Loved it and it's Magnum 318 V8.
Just wait till you see yours next to the new one. The new one looks so much mote aggressive yet elegant and expensive at the same time.
The Laredo is 45k with power liftgate and sunroof. That's insane for a base model with cloth seats. Not to mention Jeep's interest rate for one of these was at 6% with a credit score at 740 and above. I was recently in the market for a new suv and couldn't find a limited under 54k. That's what dealers were charging with market adjustment fees and that 6% interest rate.
I had a 2015 Overland 4x4 with the 5.7L Hemi and every option checked. I paid $51,000. The price jump in this one is ridiculous.
Right. When I bought my well equipped '14 limited 4x4, it stickered at $42k, paid $37.5k. It felt like a great value at the time. $57k for a new one is insane.
My dad had the 15 overland with air suspension, heated and cooled seats, heated rear, NO blindspot, v6 for 43k
It’s not ridiculous when you consider inflation and just how much nicer of a vehicle it is. It also has significantly more standard features. It is quieter, rides better, handles better, brakes better, and the interior is in a completely different league.
It’s not the same vehicle. The amount of technology in this generation vs the last is LIGHTYEARS ahead. You can’t compare the two
@@ksantolini Exactly. Just because it says Grand Cherokee and uses the same 3.6 V6 doesn't mean it is the same vehicle. It is all new from the ground up. Literally the only carry over parts are the headlights switches, wiper controls, and engine/transmission (though they are tuned to be smoother and more refined)... Everything else is 100% new. Go actually sit in and drive the car before you say shit like it is not worth the extra money. It is a much nicer vehicle in every way . Well worth the money.
Just leased one of these today! It's even better in person. I had 2 years left on my 2020 Jeep Cherokee lease and Chrysler Capital didn't charge me any fees or anything extra to do a "pull-ahead". I have been leasing with them since 2017. I actually had about $3000 of positive equity on the Cherokee. So excited to spend the next 3 years in my GC!
If you don’t mind me asking, how much are you paying for the lease on one of these?
@@XxBigBrotherxXX $697 per month for 39 months for a Limited 4x4 with a "customer preferred package". I also always put $0 down.
Thank You Mr Tommy seriously man thank you for this video. I've personally been in the hunt for my wife and I vehicles and I truly have decided what I want, a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited for how I travel to and from work and how we like to go to our beautiful mountains here in East Tennessee it will be a perfect vehicle for myself and my wife has decided she wants a 4runner and thanks to you and the gentlemen for your channels we've seen enough to make our decision, thank you and have a Blessed day everyone
As much as I love my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit V8, I don't think I will be buying Jeep again due to the low reliability.
I agree. In the end, they're just another Chrysler product. Once it's out of warranty, it just turns into a money pit.
Same…and the prices are ridiculous considering the competition which is ultra reliable!
@@Bacnow people buy what they like. Plus, 90% of the market is lease based. It's all about what you like. That reliability crap way of talking is old.
@@theone5404 - only a fool would disregard reliability when discussing the purchase of a $60k-$70k vehicle!!
Also, the OP specifically spoke about “…buying Jeep again due to the low reliability.”!
Where did you see the word ‘lease’ in this thread?
@@Bacnow well, 85% of the luxury car buyers are fools. All cars come with a warranty. Use it. The word buy means lease when it comes to buying cars in this time. Many that buy cars often get extended warranties. I don't buy into that old school nonsense of chrysler isn't reliable or German cars aren't reliable. Nonsense. You take care of the car and put the proper fuel in it, it'll take care of you. Never had a problem with my Jeeps or Audi's. 54 thousand and 98 thousand perspectively I keep my cars for 3.5 years and pay them off in cash over the course of 2 months of $9500 a week. That's relatively quick. After they're paid for, I don't have a single problem with them. However, my wife's current Lexus, Cadillac prior and Infiniti prior to that all had an issue or 2. They were supposed to be so great and reliable. My mother had a pricey amount of trouble out of her 4-Runner and none out of her Durango. So, I'm different and buy what appeals to oneself. Most people do. When spending this kind of money, you get what you want and not worry about so called reliability. In case something go's wrong, trade that car in and get another one.
I like the L my mom just got one absolutely love it drives nice the overland fully loaded spec with luxury 2 package fully loaded and all dealer add on options
Tommy does a good job letting know what this version is all about. I just got my 2021 GC Limited with the 5.7 (my be the last 5.7 WK2 ever built). I feel I got a deal even in this market because to get a 2022 with the 5.7 is significantly more expensive than the 2021. The drive lines are the same in 2022. No low range in the lower trim levels on the 2022. No sunroof or nav in the the 2022 limited trim. For me, they did reduce manufacturing defects over the 10 years of production. Not perfect but acceptable. Looked at other products. I wanted a better balance driving experience than the 3.6 provides. Good luck with the new ones.
Please keep doing this base vs expensive. This is what matters
TFL Should consider doing an offroad review for the Jeep GC 2022 4X4 Limited as more customers are likely to purchase the mid-range option, especially seeing these exuberant prices.
I like the way this new Cherokee looks -- and I *REALLY* like the color on that $57K example! Reminds me of the 2015 Ecoboost Mustang convertible I owned before I traded it in April of 2019 for a Ranger XLT. It was a color Ford called Ruby Red. Really nice color, especially in the sunlight. They had a "candy" mixed in with the clearcoat, and it really popped.
Point blank says on the tailgate thats a limited... not to mention the leather seats and the 360 view camera which are not available on Laredo trim...
This is what I was waiting for I’m a single man in my 20s I don’t want or need the L
Why would single man in his 20s want a minivan?
@@zelenizub2036 Sir, this is a Wendy's.
"L" is the overall platform. Not particular to the 3 row variant..... (...WJ - WK - WL)
@@MaddJakd the GCL is the model
Why get a SUV then get a nicer sedan like a 5 series lol or CT5/CT6 if you want to buy American
Got my wife an Altitude L. I really like it. I would have loved to get the Overland (I had the previous gen overland). But we couldn’t justify that price. I leased my 2019 Jeep Overland for 550 per month. Now it would have been into the 700s.
I took a quick drive it in and I like it.
Went with the 22 Summit Reserve and so far besides the crazy price, I have no regrets!!
Amazing Technology features, safety & comfort!!
I do feel that this new model / redesign is slightly shorter / has less space than its previous Gen.
besides that, great job Jeep!!
I just bought the 2024 Summit and added the passenger side screen, night vision (which is a great safety feature) and the MacIntosh stereo. Picking it up tomorrow. Its basically the same package as the Reserve without the ventilated rear seats and 20 vs 21 inch wheels but with the added night vision which I wanted. Its absolutely stunning. I really like the massaging front seats for long drives. The price is steep but it compares favorably to the BMW X5 and MB GLE350 which I've owned 2. To get those German cars appointed like the Summit would cost well over $80k. Inflation has really taken its toll on auto prices plus the new tech is not cheap.
The 4xe is an awesome way to get people comfortable with owning an EV without compromise. 25 miles is a lot for many people to use very little gas.
To me, the limited is the sweet spot. Got one myself, L. Incredible vehicle
It’s nuts that “mid 40k range” is budget now.
The new GC is significantly more expensive.
The Trailhawk starts at $51,670. My '18 Trailhawk started at $43,295: $8500 less...! This is a big jump, and the only practical difference I see is a bit more ground clearance and the sway bars.
Destination charge is an outrageous $1800! ($1100 on the '18) Huge profit center for Jeep.
I am left wondering about the Trailhawk's seats. Before, Trailhawk was the only way to get the much superior SRT seats in a non-SRT GC. I wonder if that's still the case?
Also, if you want a (sluggish) V8, it's worth noting it's not available on the Limited anymore, meaning you'll have pay a lot more for a higher end trim level to get it.
Inflation sucks
@@bradlaflamme6127 This is more than inflation. It's just flat out gouging at the limit of what buyers will pay.
@@jre617 that is everywhere right now unfortunately
I was going to pay a $670/mo lease for a 2020 JGC Limited 4x4 WK2 w/ a luxury package. I leased a 2022 JGC Limited 4x4 WL w/ a customer preferred package for $27/mo more. Extra $27/mo is very much worth it 👌🏽
As longest people pay prices will be high -it’s the dealers that have a freedom to set the pricing as they like and seat back and rake all profits-will see them next year when economy collapse
This Jeep the overland
is so comfortable. With the higher upgrade packages. You get heat and cold lumber massage seats.
I have nerve damage in my tailbone and so I need a really comfortable seat. I tested 25 passenger seats from cheaper and much more expensive luxury brands.
The massage systems in other brands have.
None compared to the Jeep.
I fell asleep in it. During the test drive.
So if you have a bad back and want to drive longer then 3o min get one.
I built an Overland 3 row with the two higher tech and tow package. On the Jeep website. And came to a price of $63,645.
We bought the Overland late 2022 and it’s an excellent vehicle for long trips. The seats, stereo, and interior upsold us from the Limited. No regrets and no issues so far
@Bluemagoo2002
I still love it. We drove from Ogden to Denver for 9 hours and no back pain!!!
And with the seats down loads of room for our dogs.
They are big dogs.
For Christmas, we are visiting our son, who is at ft Lewis Seattle.
That will be a true test.
Just wanted to say thank you again for this video I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and love it and for the most part I just need a simple 4x4 and for what you get in the new ones well I'm personally sold, thank you so much and till next time, have a Blessed day everyone
When it's time to replace my '14 JGC Limited 4x4, it won't be with one of these. No two speed transfer case on the limited? Shiny black plastic everywhere? And it's $15k more than my nearly identically equipped '14? What a disappointment.
The limited has low range and hill decent control just like your 14’. It is also not 15k more lol. It is about 8k more and comes with significantly mote standard features. It is much quieter, smoother ride, better handling, and a significantly nicer interior. It is well worth the money. Better in every way.
@@jjchockey According to this video, the tested limited did not have a two speed transfer case. Also, it stickered at $57k, which is $15k more than the $42k my similarly specked '14 stickered at. Standard features here are irrelevant given that mine and the example here are similarly specked. I didn't say the new one lacked hill decent control so I don't know why you brought that up. Is the new one quieter? Does it have a smoother ride I don't know. And you don't either because you haven't driven both. Anyway, if you feel the new one is a great value, feel free to go ahead and buy one. If it was my 57k,. I would pick a Mercedes GLE 4matic over this. When I bought mine, there was nothing on the market and in its price range that could compete. That's just not the case now.
Visually, the two-row GC looks so much better than the three-row, extended version. Jeep got the proportions just right with the shorter version.
At $17k more than I paid for my ‘14, it must be more reliable. The $8k of warranty work I’ve had done would go away! Thankfully I bought a Mopar warranty online that helped (highly recommended)
That sucks. My 14 Limited has been bullet proof since leaving the lot, May 2013. In my case we got the extended warranty and never used it.
Showing LOVE for the channel thank you and have a Blessed day everyone
Is it possible to get air suspension control on limited model? I’ve test drive Grand Cherokee L, and I really wish there is another button on the right.
We're moving to New England soon and a 4x4 is a must have due to the snow so this is at the top of our list, but will be sad to see the Challeger Scat Pack go. I love what they have done with the interior of the new GC, especially that you can get cloth seats with the heated option since leather doesn't work for us in colder weather and they are pretty attractive. It has all of the safety features, remote start and driving assistance features as well. Actually, the only thing I can think of that we would want added to the red 4x4 Laredo shown here is fog lights. It's not a bad price for what you get and we'd delete the sunroof because we never use them which would save $1,095. Wouldn't need the passenger screen, either, as the husband or I would be on our smartphones on a long trip anyway. That trim level absolutely meets our needs. We haven't ruled out the 4xe for better mileage, but we trust the reliability of the 3.6L. So happy with the new exterior design as well. Looking forward to test driving one!
In 5-7 years the passenger screen will no longer work, the tranny will be on its second rebuild, and the air suspension will be on its way out😂 I still want one tho!
That’s why you gotta lease!
Not exactly. My 2014 is flawless, big screen and all.
@L H same here. My 2014 is an Alaskan Jeep and has seen some really bad weather and always got us home. So reliable I’m giving it to my oldest when she goes to Anchorage for college and I’m getting a 2022! 😂
I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, and by no means are they cheap, but to compare the new GC to the previous editions isn’t a fair match. The 2022 Laredo has more options and convenience features than the previous WK Limited and is evenly equipped with the WK2, with the exception of leather seats. The question is whether they moved it too far upscale. As far as looks, Jeep has apparently intentionally dramatically changed the looks and style of each new generation. My personal favorite was the WK with the sharp corners and compact size and the semi-circle headlights. I just wish they’d go back to the flip window hatch.
Will there be an SRT or track hawk trim.
I’m really looking forward to seeing the pricing for the upcoming 4xe trailhawk version and to see what is standard and what is available to add. I will definitely be keeping this one towards the front of the list of vehicles to get.
If it scales at these insane prices will be looking at $80k
I thought I might be able to find a deal on a left over 2021 WK2 now the 2022 WL is hitting showrooms, but it's the opposite! Some dealers are asking for a $7k "market adjustment" over MSRP for 2021s that they have on the lot, but will let me order a 2022 for MSRP. Crazy!
You are getting rubbed this days every way you turn around it’s like fypay pay me
Every approx 6 years a new grand cherokee is introduced Tommy ... You guys are great your content is amazing please please if you can try to talk to us about the grand cherokee 2005 to 2010 i would appreciate it
I have Quadra-Drive on my aged WJ. I totally need it. Every winter. I live in the frozen hell. Rural Norway. I love it, especially when I pull Land Rovers and big X7s up from the ditches.
Thanks for showing the Laredo
Loveeeee that Trailhawk!🙌🏻
Congrats and thank you! This simple video is way better than the Jeep website.
Love this video! Makes me want to buy one! Counting the seconds for the 4xe video.
Tommy, why do you think that people won't take these $40, $50, $60, and $70k vehicles off-road. Despite your modest means, you take a $35k vehicle off-road regularly. Also how is this different from someone taking a Jeep Rubicon or Badlands Bronco off-road (both arguably $50k+ vehicles)?
The difference is 90% of people buying those broncos won’t be taking them off road either. No different from this overpriced unit.. Tommys wrangler is priced rignt at what a nice sxs would cost
Over 90% of Rubicons stay on pavement only.
Most people won't be in a rush to damage there new jeep unless they made of money.
There's a different between going off-road and trying to do Mickey's Hottub. Not all off-roading is extreme or involves people throwing their rigs off Black Bear Pass.
@@mpeugeot facts I give you that. But I'm fasho not doing that the first year.
Can someone PLEASE answer this question? It appears the summit reserve comes with a passenger screen but the summit does not. But the limited version comes with the passenger screen as shown at 7:58? How does this make sense
I think its packages and pricing, some people while they might like the summit with a screen, someone else might not. So not all limited ones will have screens either
@@kinsmen1764 actually I just looked into it further. That’s gotta be the 4xe model
I would have a hard time spending 70 grand on the summit reserve. I’ve got a 2019 grand Cherokee trail hawk that’s had a lot of issues. Love the car but im probably done with jeeps after this.
I hear this a lot. My experience with all 6 Jeep’s I have owned agrees with you. But for the fun of a wrangler I would still take a chance again lol
I must have been the lucky one. Owned four GC's in a row here in the UK with no issues!
Sad to hear. I have 5 Chrysler’s all great all but one over 100k 2 have 200k
If you don’t take care of the car you will always have issues
@@kervensferdinand669 so you just assume I don’t take care of it? Two of the big issues I’ve had with the car have nothing to do with taking care of it.
:BMW and Mercedes levels of quality? Coming soon - Land Rover quality! LOL
Hey JLR interiors are pretty good as far as electronics quality……
Thank you very much for showing the SUV's in full without obstructing the view.
Damn Jeep is very expensive now.
Yo it’s every car company these days. I don’t get it. Everyone wants to charge luxury prices, for basic ass vehicles.
great job on reviewing these jeeps!
It's a shame the gas cap door paint doesn't match...
Plastic vs Metal.... Any person that know cars knows this.
I ordered the Summit Reserve with night vision earlier this month…I wanted the V8, bigger rims and upgraded 19 speaker audio system and RGB ambient lights…
No live axels, no sell
Nice vehicle, I'm starting to think TFL stands for Tommy Fast Lane, they're working you hard. At what price do tow hooks become recovery points?
3:12 the four pillars right? light, space, comfort, and quality (I think it's that, it's a rolls-royce saying)
27:38 agreed. although I think I would spring for some leather and wood. simply because Jeeps wood is pretty good, and I'm not a fan of Stellantis's clothe (too scratchy)
Any idea if this would be built with the next generation Durango, or if this will eventually replace the Durango?
Grand CHeokee never was/will be a Replacement for Durango.. Durango as is is close to dead..
It's already been announced that the current-generation Durango will be the last, but it'll continue another year or two. The JGC L is the three-row replacement for the Durango.
“🤔”When the base model stickers at $44,000…
I just bought the Summit. I know its pricey but if you can afford it then why not. This is my 2nd GC. I also have a 2019 Limited 4x4 that I'm giving to my daughter. I kept the MSRP sticker and was shocked to see that it was $41,000 and change. I believe I bought it for $38,000. Now to be fair it does not have the interior of the new Limited BUT it was still very nicely appointed and very comfortable. It has a sun roof but not a panoramic sunroof. There is no real wood trim. Its probably more like today's Laredo but what a great value it was just few short years earlier. Can't believe I'm paying almost $70k for a new loaded version. I will say though, the air suspension and creature comforts are on par with a BMW X5 and Mercedes GLE350 (I've owned 2 in the past). My only complaint is that middle console with the piano black plastic. Cmon Jeep! For that price it should be wood. But otherwise its a beautiful swiss knife luxury SUV that can handle just about any weather or road condition thrown at it.
In MOAB and no driving?
Media Embargo Nov 11th i think. they cant tell you how it drives.
Did they get rid of the projector headlights?
every one did, LED are superior.
@@TomazHilton Sorry LED is NOT superior, the high freq flickering bothers many people, and the light is glaring, also something most people don't realize is that LED is a COLD light so if you have snow on the headlamp lenses it won't melt like it would with HID/ halogen. Bad move in my view.
@@watershed44 led frequency is undetected by the human eye (only seen on recording devices) also LED come in many light temperatures .
@@TomazHilton I can detect it, but not all are aware of it. Once you notice it you cannot UN-notice it . lol I get headaches due to that flickering. Even though most people cannot detect it our eyes do see it with our high frame rate perception but most people will filter it out, I can't. The other problem with LED is the ability to have a high CRI. They can have 3000, 2700, 3500, 4000k but the quality of the light just doesn't match a good quality halogen or incandescent light.
@@TomazHilton I was driving in front of someone that had led lights and theirs were flickering like crazy it was annoying and gave me a headache. I don’t even notice led flickering but it happens
i have 2017 limited and its been killing i dont know if these new ones are better or not in term of reliability you know fun to drive handling road noise ???
Great review! Unfortunately, it’s an FCA product with some of the worst reliability in America. They break & then FCA’s terrible service either won’t or can’t fix them. They should keep the lemon law attorneys gainfully employed for a while.
Lmao. Okay boomer.
Please. Sandbox is that way 👉 child
Literally happened with my 2021 wrangler. Trash dealer kept it for 60 days and then told me it was “normal” that the rear end was knocking lol. And when they refuse to fix something and say it’s “normal” and you try to work with jeep on a buyback they literally will not talk to you. Be ready to get a lawyer or trade it because those are you only options. CJDR have the absolute WORST mechanics at every dealership I have dealt with over the last 6 years. They have done things to my trucks and Jeep’s you would not believe on simple service issues.
Amazon, us postal service , waymo, and police trust Chrysler products. So your one man show opinion holds no weight.
@@Jay-bw3fl that's not fca, that's a shitty dealership.
Lets hope it does well on the Moose test. The old one before the facelift was very bad.
Remember when the WK2 was considered brand new back in 2011 and they did the same kind of review like this with the same red colour, time surely flies. The WK2 was still somewhat buff looking from the rear, and those acceleration numbers surely looked better than what this thing got. This happens when you add a bunch of electric crap dead weight without any power increase
The WL is supposedly 250 lbs. lighter than the WK2 so unless there’s some other changes like gear ratios, it should be as quick or quicker than the outgoing model.
MFR's are going crazy with these destination charges
For "only" $44,000? Are you out of your mind? $44k is not affordable nor is it a value! Almost a $4,000 base price jump year over year is moronic!
It’s a nicer vehicle in every way and has significantly more standard equipment then last years Laredo. 10” digital gauge cluster is standard, 8.4” screen standard, LED lights standard, emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, significantly nicer interior, quieter, and better ride. Well worth 4k.
@@jjchockey not $4,000 more than last year nicer!
@@jjchockey Not $4,000 bucks better. No way. It's gouging the customer.
This Laredo seems to be optioned much better then the outgoing models but I would prefer a different wheel and tire package. I don't mind the 18's but I would like an A/T tire and perhaps an inexpensive black steel wheel or a dark grey/charcoal wheel.
steel wheels kill MPG. Too heavy
Question….can the Summit be specified with body color roof? I don’t like the contrasting black roof.
$1700 destination charge? Can I just go pick it up my damn self? lol
@venom5809
They are just gouging the customers now. It's so obvious.
It's just a way they can advertise a low MSRP. The destination charge brings it back to what the real MSRP is. It's all smoke and mirrors.
Just bought 2023 grand Cherokee limited
First, we had an issue with our trunk door being unevenly closed, which more likely will cause water damage, they fixed it under the warranty but it was not an easy task going through with dealerships, customer service, or the service center. Anyways after that issue was fixed, AC blew out hot air randomly, had to make an appointment with the dealer, and had to talk to Jeep customer care, going back and forth 8 times to the dealer, but it has not been fixed. All they saying is sorry, and to be patient, all I did was be nice and patient with the dealers and Jeep customer care. It’s been my worst nightmare won't buy anything from them ever again! !!!?!?!
Jeep continues to improve there game, I hope it is enough as it will be 10 more years before we see another overhaul.
The G.C. Trailhawk has a disconnecting front stabilizer bar but only an LSD in the rear when the Cherokee Trailhawk has a locker in the rear? That doesn't make sense...
yup
FWD based vs RWD based
@@TomazHilton I'm not sure why that should matter
Yeah I've always found this strange. Why don't they use a locker in the Grand Cherokee? I've got the Trailhawk. It has the elsd and it does work good but why not a full locker?
these are way too expensive now. $44,000 for a laredo with cloth seats?!
I want to drive on soft sand on the beach. Since there's no low range selector or alternate terrain selector should I be concerned? I think it's fine since beach driving is really the only off roading I'll ever do but want to make sure.
Tow Package? Does anyone know the deal on that? The online vehicle configurator is up for the new Jeep Grand Cherokee, but it currently doesn't allow you to add a tow package. You *can* add it for the L version and for the 4xe version.
1) L is overall platform
2) They did mention tow numbers for the 2-row at debut so, production hold-ups?
Am plan on buying one this year any advice
Does the Laredo Jeep Cherokee have Digital Speedometer?
Good video
After owning 2 grand Cherokee (2007 and new 2013 ) I can say it’s not reliable vehicle, bad quality , bad dealer service, bunch of recall . I did like my lifted wk2, took me places .
Good luck with it .
How long have you had them tho? I assume you still have the 2013 one right? Can't say they not reliable if you bail out after 2 to 3 years.
Well anything from chrysler between 2003 and 2010 is gonna have bad interior quality, hard plastics etc.
@@ricepile1343 yes because it was a low end Mercedes product. Mercedes owned and controlled Chrysler. After FCA purchased them, that's when the improvements came.
@@omarbagent9829 I bought in 2012 and sold 2019 (from 0 miles to 145000)
@@alexkostenyuk that more than qualifies to. 💯👍🏿
I just got a 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee for $41k after rebates yesterday. I got a laredo X model and I'm really liking the older design better cause all the shinny black and shift nob don't look good to me. Definitely in the trim I could afford (low 40s before taxes and fees). It looks so empty without the terrain options, 4 low mode, and lift buttons. I also don't like how the steering wheel so boxy and rectangular now. I'm curious to see one with altitude package to better compare with my 21.
Damn $41k? I paid $28k for my wife’s Laredo x back in 2019 new. Prices have definitely jumped. As much as I love Jeep I’m not sure my next vehicle will be a Jeep with their prices no a days..
@@ricanredliner Well, that's hard to believe you must of had a super sale going on!
@@omarbagent9829 yea the msrp was $37k. They had it listed online for $28k. I printed the page and went in and asked for it. They tried telling me I didn’t qualify for all those discounts cause some where rebates and some where military discounts and some other BS. I said that’s what’s listed on your website as the “internet price” and that’s what I want it for. Went back and forth and they finally agreed. Walked out getting it for the $28k
@@ricanredliner Bro, your a F’ing legend! Great way to stick it to the dealership! I made sure I took a picture of my online price as well just in case they tried changing up. One time I actually got out of a used car purchase because the dealership made a huge mistake on the contract. ( I called the loan company myself and sent them the error, couple days later dealership told me to bring car back and I got my deposit and everything back) It feels so good to win a battle with them cause they can be so grimy sometimes!!
@@omarbagent9829 yea they tried telling me their online prices are not realistic cause the online price takes all applicable rebates and discounts and deducts them all but not everyone applys for all of those. I said well that is what you have it listed as and if that’s true then it’s false advertising. After they finally agreed and acted like they were taking a hit then came the trade in negotiations which they were trying to stick me on the trade to make money back. I stood firm on that too and we ended up making the deal. After all was said and done and we were done with deal then I throw down another online print out of a 2nd Jeep and said and I want this one for me at said price also lol. I ended up getting my wife the Laredo X for $28k and I got myself a altitude for $31k which had a original msrp of $42k. I think I did well and don’t think I’d be able to pull that off again lol
My 2014 Dodge Durango is very similar to this; I have never needed anything more than AWD and I live in BC. Just need good tires.
Anyone who hasn’t had a car with gloss black console accents yet is in for such a horrible surprise when they scratch it to pieces the very first time they wipe the dust off of it. Lol this is a horrendous amount it and even in the base model. Man that sucks.
I kept a speacial rag in my Golf to clean the glass black. The amount of gloss black in this things is a bit silly to me
Thankyou Tommy . Expect more like this - TOP vs BASE .
"Piano black" is a dumb phrase. It implies the highly lacquered wood on a piano. But for car interiors it really just means glossy black plastic.
I'm much less impressed by the lower trim level quality than the above narrator. Still hard plastics in the same locations as before. I guess you'd have to jump up to Overland to get a good looking interior.
Subaru Forester for $23,900. Pocket the rest and buy a house with a garage.
Dos it have lane tracking that will center you in a lane like Kia, Hyundai, and Toyota or just the ancient lane keep that bounces you line to line?
or maybe just drive in your own lane...
it has the one that keeps you centered for the past 2 years. In all seriousness why not just learn to drive proper.
You forgot to mention Jeep's ridiculous $1,800 destination charge. I hate how manufacturers omit/hide destination charges from their advertised pricing. So 44k+ for a Pentistar V6 SUV with cloth seats and particularly the same engine found in a 2011 Chrysler 200. Yeah not thanks.
The 44k included the dest charge…
@@davidxavier1396 right why would they not have that included on the Paper... Hearing is also as Fundamental as reading.
@@TomazHilton Your cognitive skills are failing you bud. Pause the video at 23:07. Pay further attention at the bottom of the page. ;)
@@davidxavier1396 I was agreeing with you…. Tyler is the one that couldn’t comprehend…
@@TomazHilton Fixed!
$70K? The MSRP on my Dad's 1986 Cherokee was right under $11K. Times have changed!
Excellent review and very thorough 👍🏾
at last some use for the Giorgio platform. Although I would have much preferred it actually spawned the Alfa Romeo GTV coupe and the long overdue new iterations of E-segment cars from Alfa Romeo and Maserati.
I have a 2021 JGC and I’m not jealous of the new model.
@@byronlarson5534 same here. I'm happy with my 21 and will definitely have to pay more to get the packages I got now if was would have waited
Someone needs to explain to me why the stylish Altitude models doesn’t have an option for the 10 inch display. And why they are more expensive then when I purchased my Limited back in 2014
Looks like this is the vehicle I need for towing a horse! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The trail hawk version has the uphill and down hill accent/decent mode but the Laredo had the down hill decent button. Similar to the WK2.
I like you're enthusiasm for the Laredo.
I currently drive a 2020 srt8 grand Cherokee, can’t wait to see what they come out with for the srt model
How did you find the rear leg and headroom on this 2 row model compared to the WK ?