Everyone has an opinion but as an American Land Rover I think it’s brilliant for what it is - and glad we have a diverse offering here and choice of a six instead of 2 litre turbos that demand 95 octane and are less economical- I’d buy this well before a Merc GLS or BMW X7
If this car was $65-70k, I might consider it. But $115k? What drugs were Jeep on when pricing it? If it weren’t for the supply issues affecting new cars, they would be already discounting these.
Jeep shows it's lack of professionalism here. Sending a beaten up, scratched and misaligned car to the top Australian car reviewer. Doesn't inspire confidence from a brand that is considered a lemon on wheels!
And $115k for this, and without the badge cachet of the other lemon, a Land Rover. Idk who’ll be stupid enough to buy this, suffer the lack of reliability AND the immense depreciation in one go. It actually makes the LC300 feel like a better buy since it feels like it will still work perfectly after 20 years and retain half its resale value.
I know why carmakers continue to use piano black despite its well documented shortcomings - because it looks great when it’s brand new in the showroom. What happens when the buyer gets it home is not their problem.
@@jerrymyahzcat Hard-wearing surfaces are always the best, no matter what kind of car. Compare something like a Ford F-250 Super Duty to this and you'll find no piano black nonsense in the truck.
It’s not just that vehicle Paul, I know way too many people who have bought a new Jeep. Terrible build quality, terrible reliability. None of them would ever buy a Jeep again - says it all really. A brand that relies on its name for initial sales until people realise what pieces of \¥^¥{¥\§€£[# that they are! One had to go through legal action to get a full new replacement under the lemon laws, and the replacement new car had to be replaced again! They need to come with a warning saying “not in your right mind!” 😂
Yeah just like the Toyota 2.8 diesel in the Hilux, Fortuna and Prado with its DPF class action. Ohh but wait, we can’t say anything bad about Toyota now can we.
A long anticipated review. I had watched a bunch of american reviews on this car and they were all full of praise and wonder, much like the Brits praise LR's. I was counting on Paul for an objective, comprehensive appraisal on this car. Thanks!
I drove one in the US and can confirm the LHD Jeeps have much better quality. I was shocked when I took one for a test drive in Aus and saw the difference between them, both were Summit trims.
@@menifo4334 Not sure, I know the ones for the US market is all built in the USA itself, but there are also Jeeps built in Mexico, Brazil and Austria. I think RHD models are built in Brazil, there are many 'spy' shots of RHD camouflaged vehicles getting tested outside of Brazilian factories. I do know that a lot of the engines offered in Stellantis vehicles are built in Mexico.
@@devon2435 It's a shame really. It looks stunning inside and out. I have been eying this since it was launched but we'll have the RHD 2.0 petrol-hybrid in Europe presumably by the end of Spring 23. Not sure I'm willing to wait that long, only to be disappointed by poor quality issues.
@@menifo4334 I don't think Europe will get a similar GC to Aus, maybe the UK will because it is a RHD country, but I'll think it'll be better. My first choice would honestly be the 2.0 Hybrid 4xe, there is a lot of misinformation about the battery depleting, but in my experience with it in the US it acts just as a normal hybrid even with the battery at 0% there is always reserve electric power under acceleration in normal driving conditions. That hybrid is crazy powerful and smooth, wish they would do it in the L version.
Why would anyone buy this heap , no power no tow vehicle over 100k Jeep has always been crap 💩 now they have confirmed what everyone thinks Plus the Jeep brand is a dud
This was a disaster not offering a V8 crazy the V6 is rubbish and meant for people who have not got a clue, like those people who don't even under stand difference between diesel or petrol. That's who they are targeting. You wouldn't buy this asking 100K + this is crazy ,you can buy a BMW X5 or New Defender they are bother much superior in all areas for a little bit more. You wouldn't even buy JGC L in a fire sale with the V6 petrol as it is not powerful enough and it uses too much fuel , it's a joke . Jeep Australia took away the V8 and are charging 30% more for a rubbish underpowered, basic and slow V6. Can't tow as much as the V8 of and of course they were hoping a jeep customer Aussies wouldn't notice the awful underpowered of the V6 . Crazy these won't sell like the V8 did. The poor build quality in 2022 is unacceptable and terrible .Jeep had a really big chance for this to shine but cut corners over charged all of you for an inferior engine that was dirt cheap for them to chuck in this, hoping customers won't notice it because of the new exterior facelift. The V8 version should have been here and priced under 100 k drive away but no they got really greedy this time and chucked a rubbish NA V6 petrol in that is way under powered for this heavy vehicle and made it so you can't tow as much as the older models this is just bonkers and nuts . Avoid it !
Great review. Lots of pros and cons for this car, but I think the price would be the biggest hurdle for buyers. Not to mention it'll depreciate like a piano falling off a cliff the moment production of new cars goes back to normal.
It is amazing how they can make a LHD feel like an actual luxury suv, I drove one in the US and it was great, all the body panels lined up perfectly, there was nothing squeaky or cheap in the interior, really up to MB and Bmw levels. Then I came back to Aus last month and took one for a test drive, and I was shocked in the quality difference between them, don't know why Jeep doesn't care enough about RHD markets to give us the same quality. It is really a shame because I was pretty much sold on it...
@@Malc664 All RHD Jeeps are built in Brazil, it think that says enough. The one I test drove in Aus wasn't this bad, but it wasn't up to the quality standard that they sell them in the US.
Paul really is one of the top car reviewers if you want a detailed vehicle review, (I would have said Matt Watson a few years ago, but his success has going to his head and turned him into a circus clown. Guess I am in the minority as Carwow has millions of subs). Guess I'm too old for his childish crap. :) Hence watching a reviewer the other side of the world reviewing vehicles I will never see or afford for that matter. :) Great job again Paul.
You mentioned that the fuel capacity is 104 litres. This is not correct and has been recently amended by Jeep Australia. They incorrectly calculated the metric conversion forgetting that US gallons are smaller than Imperial gallons. I pointed this out in a letter to their CEO and they agreed their information was incorrect and they’ve updated their specifications to show that the fuel tank capacity is actually 87 litres.
@@1991Vn2nV yep, I wanted it clarified. I like having a decent range in my vehicles and I assumed that to partly compensate for the loss of range with the deletion of the Diesel engine, they’d increased the size of the fuel tank. Yet, when I looked at the Jeep’s specifications on their USA website, the new Grand Cherokee had a smaller tank than its predecessor. It turned out that they’d made a conversion error. Accordingly, the lack of a Diesel engine, along with the much reduced range of the new model are the reasons I won’t be replacing my current Jeep with the new model.
Even in the US, the engine choices are a disappointment being carryovers. In the Australian market, with the limited engine choice, seems like the regular Grand Cherokee (not the L) in a lower trim makes more sense. And the build quality issues are present here in the US also. Personally, I think there are better choices in the market.
I disagree about lower trim. I say always but too from so you’re not missing out. The only time I sway from that is if the top trim only has say only one rubbish engine choice or only has 2WD when you want 4WD or only has Manual when you want Auto etc etc. Otherwise Always get top spec. Don’t scrimp.
Those negative points sound accurate and OMG the noise it makes with its uninspiring 3.6 V6 just sounds dull and has to be thirsty revving it out to 5500RPM. The cherry on top are those exterior panel alignment issues and mediocre interior build quality. Not Jeeps greatest product offering atm .
Prices are just insane especially for something like this SUV, and the lack of quality is unfortunately representative of this mark, one would think they would have improved quality due to the price yet not, not disappointed as it’s never been a quality product. Great review Paul.
Lucky you, you get the V6 and the "L" at least. Over here in EU/Germany it's only the 2.0 turbo-4cyl PHEV non-L (5seats, short version) for a hefty price increase. The "old" (last gen.) GC WK2 Summit Diesel had a list price of ~75K Euro (street/dealer price ~55 K Euro), for the PHEV now the call is for ~95K Euro. No diesel anymore, no V6 or V8 - I'm out. No SRT anymore too.
Thanks for the review. I had high hopes for this but after watching your review it's dead to me :) plus 115K- 120K price tag?! to buy a JEEP?!!! people must be crazy to even shortlist this for that kind of price
I'm sorry, but the infotainment is not snappy. If it does not compete with an A15 bionic or Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 responsiveness then it is not snappy. I am not sure why there is such a delay in scrolling through menu's in 2022.
wow i love the look of this car especially in this gray colour they also offered a short wheelbase version but it's not available in australia just yet
Great review, Paul. Thank you. I had a deposit down for the L before they released the specs. Cancelled it as soon as the first recalls started been announced in the US. Looking at the quality control of the AU fleet, you just cannot justify the price tag. So glad I canceled the order.
I agree with Paul, wouldn't buy one either and I'm a Jeep GC fan. Not a fan of there V6 petrol, poor towing numbers. But this is primary a family mover, not a caravan hauler, this may come with other models. Why wouldn't Jeep at least have the 5.7L hemi as an option, stupid. Boy, the big carry on about a slight panel gap on the tail gate, most likely can be adjust out, but what a carry on by all these so called Jeep experts, just the normal sheep, I'm telling you can find some imperfections on any car. That's why I would never buy a first run on a completely new model. Also far too much money for me.
Paul is reviewing a partially refurbished car...Its like Jeep took the car from Jeeps Crash test and they just added panels here and there and shipped it to AUS
The FCA Giorgio platform this sits on isn't inherently bad but even by American standards the Stellantis Jefferson North Assembly Plant making these doesn't have the best reputation for build quality (putting it mildly).
Another honest and genuinely informative review from you Paul. Looks like Jeep is targeting “school mums” with this model, rather than the towing community.
Called a slug, but goes onto pull off an 8.2 to 100 which is better than most of the times coming out of the new v6 ranger that has just been tested with 600nm ..... a little bit skewed
I’ve had one for six months and am satisfied. I have the Limited, which is not as fancy or as pricey. The gas mileage is not good though as it is heavy.
The most honest review I’ve seen of this. I would genuinely like this car if it was made by a different brand and 15% lover in price. Can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a Jeep in Australia.
Looks like an expensive piece of crap Paul. A good mate of mine is a panel beater here in central Victoria & often has Jeeps, Dodge, GM products in for so called minor transport mishaps. He continually tells me, show me the numerous misaligned doors, tailgates etc on them. Poor production control. Not that I’m an SUV kind of bloke, but this wouldn’t even get on my radar.
Having watched many reviews of this Jeep, I've been dying to hear your opinion, Paul. Great review. You've convinced me to wait til the new engine and build quality is addressed. Failing that... My 5th Jeep will not be a Jeep!
First thing you need to do if you buy a Jeep is check and make sure they have bothered to tighten the ball joints, minor details like these don't seem to worry Jeep and looking at this garbage things woeful panel alignment things have gotten worse. If they can't be stuffed making sure obvious manufacturing faults like panel fit you can only imagine the quality of unsighted mechanicals.
I so wanted to replace my 2012 overlander with 240000k with this (best car ever btw). Saw one at a farm show. Was interested until the towing capacity and price were mentioned. This car will be a disaster for Jeep Australia with that towing capacity. I’ve decided to hold onto the overlander until the new Everest platinum lands. Save $30k and keep the ability to tow the horse float. This Jeep is a bad joke with that engine.
The full size spare would be pointless if i am not mistaken. Especially if it has the same alloy. If you run a cherokee with different wheel size you burn the diff or the system running your 4x4. You need to run evenly used/ same mileage tires or the system thinks one is running faster than the other and starts sending power differently. This was at least with tje older gens. So a spare should not be used long… but i could be mistaken.
This is why I watch an Australian car tester, not just a reviewer. I haven't found anyone like Car Expert in the US,. the one that comes close is Savagegeese. Sadly, most do nothing more than act as advertisers for automakers. The other reason is to see your beautiful country.
Best car reviewer!! Thanks for such honest an thorough feedback! We were tossing up between one of these and the new 2023 palisade, but palisade has won us over for a number of reasons. The biggest deterrent for us buying the Jeep was the much higher price to get the summit reserve vs palisade highlander and the warranty being capped at 100k. The other things you have pointed out in this review I had completely overlooked! Such a shame, cause this is so close to being the perfect all rounder car for larger families, but just misses the mark.
I was really excited for this as we don't get enough large SUVs here in Australia that are affordable but appears there are a few issues here that are linked to the Jeep of old that we hate and stayed clear of.
I often have a close look at vehicles made in America for telltale signs of below-average build assembly quality. Now while the American brands have obviously improved from the crap levels of 25 years ago, the Japanese, Koreans and even some Europeans have moved the goal posts. The American brands still don't understand the term "consistent tolerances".
Great review. I own the Grand Cherokee Diesel...pretty pokey on the open raod and great for towing. I think Jeep will lose market share in the caravan sector tht will possibly be picked up by the next gen Ford Everest
Also have a V6 Diesel GC, '20 model, definitely have the Everest on the radar as a replacement in a few years. Curious to know though, does yours have a shocking throttle delay? Test drive cars had none, but upon delivery ours has been awful. Throttle controller does not remedy the issue. Jeep say it's just how they are, and a local tuning mob have said it only came about with the change to the AdBlue V6s. The lag isn't so problematic on the highway, but around town (especially roundabouts) it's just dangerous.
I'm American and one of the biggest misconceptions about Americans from watching Australian and English reviews is that we use our doorbins. I do not know anyone who has ever used their doorbins for drinks and bottles, our cupholders are big enough and there is plenty of storage elsewhere throughout our car for bottles. Currently we have a Kia Telluride but we used to have a second gen Dodge Durango and that car didn't even have doorbins, only a little slot in the lower door.
I own the previous model and I love it! Looks like the Grand Jeep in Australia is going the way of the Doe Doe bird🦅 People will just buy the new V6 diesel Ford Everest instead and I wouldn’t blame them as it is a great vehicle with 3.5 tons towing capacity.
This could certainly do with an amended version, engine swap and so due diligence and quality control and it would be worth it. Just remember the top spec 300 series is 150k plus. I'd wait 12months and see what happens, this seems rushed.
They made the same error with the steering wheel heating in the Maserati too. What a fail. I thought another reason they chose not to install buttons as it was cheaper to make icons and move things around in the UI to localise content. What a shame.
A mediocre super sized SUV that would have been 'saved' by the right engine... ie. the 6.4 v8 or the 3.0 turbo diesel... with a stop gap petrol n/a 3.6 v6 that works well in the mid sized FWD sedans in the US then this really shouldnt exist at all... the engine is also very old... in 2022 can you really get away with a plain port injected V6?
When will people learn and especially reviewers that "build quality" says nothing about build quality ! German cars have great "build quality" but fall apart. Unlike Jeeps. Panel gaps simply tell nothing about engine/transmission/tech ...
I love my 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Altitude X, seems like only RUclipsrs can find these "build quality" issues lol some people just love hating Jeep 🤷
Funny how you say the new Pathfinder with 202kw and 340nm is more than adequate in a 2 ton plus vehicle, but not in the Jeep Come on Paul, its almost too obvious...you hate Jeep,
Jeep have priced themselves out of the market. We had and loved our 2012 Jeep GC Limited. No issues. Even if you take out build quality issues, there a so many other cars I would buy for that same money before I even considered the Jeep. They just have no idea of their place in the market. $100k+ is way over the mark.
Reviews a launch car , next time review a car that isn’t a dealer launch , I work in a toyota dealer and the grand Cherokee L we get in make the 300 series look like a piece of rubbish , I would go jeep everyday ,
Piss poor quality from Jeep over priced with all the issues that’s got. Would never ever touch one or buy one just seems so cheaply built. Rather eat my own hat before I buy a jeep
Everyone has an opinion but as an American Land Rover I think it’s brilliant for what it is - and glad we have a diverse offering here and choice of a six instead of 2 litre turbos that demand 95 octane and are less economical- I’d buy this well before a Merc GLS or BMW X7
Definitely the passion that you have for cars make you the best car reviewer. Thanks for sharing Paul.
I appreciate that! Thank you!
We love Paul here in South Africa
If this car was $65-70k, I might consider it. But $115k? What drugs were Jeep on when pricing it? If it weren’t for the supply issues affecting new cars, they would be already discounting these.
Well that's for the highest level trim, they have less expensive trims
@@Dad_of_War yeah, and they should be 40-50k.
Jeep shows it's lack of professionalism here. Sending a beaten up, scratched and misaligned car to the top Australian car reviewer. Doesn't inspire confidence from a brand that is considered a lemon on wheels!
Maybe that is their best one.
@@Robert-cu9bm the only one that's not in service.
@@sirpalee 😂😂
@@Arnomic beat me to it!
And $115k for this, and without the badge cachet of the other lemon, a Land Rover. Idk who’ll be stupid enough to buy this, suffer the lack of reliability AND the immense depreciation in one go. It actually makes the LC300 feel like a better buy since it feels like it will still work perfectly after 20 years and retain half its resale value.
Those build quality issues, good grief 😳
it’s a new platform, give them time to iron stuff out.
Jesus, what an absolute piece of crap.
Great review, tho
I know why carmakers continue to use piano black despite its well documented shortcomings - because it looks great when it’s brand new in the showroom. What happens when the buyer gets it home is not their problem.
Agreed!
To be fair, it actually doesn’t even look that great in the showroom. A matte surface always looks better than glossy IMO.
@@jerrymyahzcat Hard-wearing surfaces are always the best, no matter what kind of car. Compare something like a Ford F-250 Super Duty to this and you'll find no piano black nonsense in the truck.
@@theglowcloud2215 exactly
It’s not just that vehicle Paul, I know way too many people who have bought a new Jeep. Terrible build quality, terrible reliability. None of them would ever buy a Jeep again - says it all really. A brand that relies on its name for initial sales until people realise what pieces of \¥^¥{¥\§€£[# that they are! One had to go through legal action to get a full new replacement under the lemon laws, and the replacement new car had to be replaced again! They need to come with a warning saying “not in your right mind!” 😂
Yeah just like the Toyota 2.8 diesel in the Hilux, Fortuna and Prado with its DPF class action. Ohh but wait, we can’t say anything bad about Toyota now can we.
Oh my looks a million dollars but after seeing how badly it's put together you'd have to have rocks in your head to buy it.
A long anticipated review. I had watched a bunch of american reviews on this car and they were all full of praise and wonder, much like the Brits praise LR's. I was counting on Paul for an objective, comprehensive appraisal on this car. Thanks!
I drove one in the US and can confirm the LHD Jeeps have much better quality. I was shocked when I took one for a test drive in Aus and saw the difference between them, both were Summit trims.
@@devon2435 Where is the one for the Australian market manufactured? Paul, any idea?
@@menifo4334 Not sure, I know the ones for the US market is all built in the USA itself, but there are also Jeeps built in Mexico, Brazil and Austria. I think RHD models are built in Brazil, there are many 'spy' shots of RHD camouflaged vehicles getting tested outside of Brazilian factories. I do know that a lot of the engines offered in Stellantis vehicles are built in Mexico.
@@devon2435 It's a shame really. It looks stunning inside and out. I have been eying this since it was launched but we'll have the RHD 2.0 petrol-hybrid in Europe presumably by the end of Spring 23. Not sure I'm willing to wait that long, only to be disappointed by poor quality issues.
@@menifo4334 I don't think Europe will get a similar GC to Aus, maybe the UK will because it is a RHD country, but I'll think it'll be better. My first choice would honestly be the 2.0 Hybrid 4xe, there is a lot of misinformation about the battery depleting, but in my experience with it in the US it acts just as a normal hybrid even with the battery at 0% there is always reserve electric power under acceleration in normal driving conditions. That hybrid is crazy powerful and smooth, wish they would do it in the L version.
Why would anyone buy this heap , no power no tow vehicle over 100k Jeep has always been crap 💩 now they have confirmed what everyone thinks
Plus the Jeep brand is a dud
This was a disaster not offering a V8 crazy the V6 is rubbish and meant for people who have not got a clue, like those people who don't even under stand difference between diesel or petrol. That's who they are targeting. You wouldn't buy this asking 100K + this is crazy ,you can buy a BMW X5 or New Defender they are bother much superior in all areas for a little bit more. You wouldn't even buy JGC L in a fire sale with the V6 petrol as it is not powerful enough and it uses too much fuel , it's a joke .
Jeep Australia took away the V8 and are charging 30% more for a rubbish underpowered, basic and slow V6. Can't tow as much as the V8 of and of course they were hoping a jeep customer Aussies wouldn't notice the awful underpowered of the V6 . Crazy these won't sell like the V8 did. The poor build quality in 2022 is unacceptable and terrible .Jeep had a really big chance for this to shine but cut corners over charged all of you for an inferior engine that was dirt cheap for them to chuck in this, hoping customers won't notice it because of the new exterior facelift. The V8 version should have been here and priced under 100 k drive away but no they got really greedy this time and chucked a rubbish NA V6 petrol in that is way under powered for this heavy vehicle and made it so you can't tow as much as the older models this is just bonkers and nuts . Avoid it !
Stunned in 2022, they produce any car with such poor panel fit...it's stupidity or arrogance?
Both !!
Great review. Lots of pros and cons for this car, but I think the price would be the biggest hurdle for buyers. Not to mention it'll depreciate like a piano falling off a cliff the moment production of new cars goes back to normal.
No hellcat engine
No grand wagoneer coming to Australia
No Deal
Their dreaming, that they want 6 figures for this
It is amazing how they can make a LHD feel like an actual luxury suv, I drove one in the US and it was great, all the body panels lined up perfectly, there was nothing squeaky or cheap in the interior, really up to MB and Bmw levels. Then I came back to Aus last month and took one for a test drive, and I was shocked in the quality difference between them, don't know why Jeep doesn't care enough about RHD markets to give us the same quality. It is really a shame because I was pretty much sold on it...
So it's not just Paul's demo that was bad build quality.
@@Malc664 All RHD Jeeps are built in Brazil, it think that says enough. The one I test drove in Aus wasn't this bad, but it wasn't up to the quality standard that they sell them in the US.
@@devon2435 My Aussie 2021 was made in Detroit.
@@bmerigan It wasn't,
My cousin upgraded from a 18' GC and she really loves it. She got a Limited GC L 4x4
Paul really is one of the top car reviewers if you want a detailed vehicle review, (I would have said Matt Watson a few years ago, but his success has going to his head and turned him into a circus clown. Guess I am in the minority as Carwow has millions of subs). Guess I'm too old for his childish crap. :)
Hence watching a reviewer the other side of the world reviewing vehicles I will never see or afford for that matter. :)
Great job again Paul.
You mentioned that the fuel capacity is 104 litres. This is not correct and has been recently amended by Jeep Australia. They incorrectly calculated the metric conversion forgetting that US gallons are smaller than Imperial gallons. I pointed this out in a letter to their CEO and they agreed their information was incorrect and they’ve updated their specifications to show that the fuel tank capacity is actually 87 litres.
Where do you find the time to write a letter about fuel tanks capacities.
You wrote a letter to the CEO over fuel tank capacity?
@@1991Vn2nV yep, I wanted it clarified. I like having a decent range in my vehicles and I assumed that to partly compensate for the loss of range with the deletion of the Diesel engine, they’d increased the size of the fuel tank. Yet, when I looked at the Jeep’s specifications on their USA website, the new Grand Cherokee had a smaller tank than its predecessor. It turned out that they’d made a conversion error. Accordingly, the lack of a Diesel engine, along with the much reduced range of the new model are the reasons I won’t be replacing my current Jeep with the new model.
Paul's comments on Poor build quality from our American allies could fracture the Aukus partnership 😀 .
🤣🤣🤣
OK, that's it, I'm deleting you of my speed dial!
Even in the US, the engine choices are a disappointment being carryovers. In the Australian market, with the limited engine choice, seems like the regular Grand Cherokee (not the L) in a lower trim makes more sense. And the build quality issues are present here in the US also. Personally, I think there are better choices in the market.
I disagree about lower trim. I say always but too from so you’re not missing out. The only time I sway from that is if the top trim only has say only one rubbish engine choice or only has 2WD when you want 4WD or only has Manual when you want Auto etc etc. Otherwise Always get top spec. Don’t scrimp.
115,000? Um no. My pick at that price would be a 2020 Audi Q7
That or touareg.
7:15 Or you could just press the steering wheel heating button which is directly in the middle of the dashboard...
This is a Fiat car, so low expectations on reliability and build quality
Fix It Again Tony?
@@pinocleen I was referring to the car company Fiat that owns Jeep
I can't imagine anyone would be so stupid to pay over $ 100 grand for one of those heaps of grap.
The interior is truly gorgeous. Its a shame about the cheap piano black plastic used inside as it detracts from an otherwise great interior
Me: Sees Jeep in the title😒
Those negative points sound accurate and OMG the noise it makes with its uninspiring 3.6 V6 just sounds dull and has to be thirsty revving it out to 5500RPM. The cherry on top are those exterior panel alignment issues and mediocre interior build quality. Not Jeeps greatest product offering atm .
Stunning and brave that Jeep has produced another shitbox.
Great review as always 🎉
This car cannot be more American, luxury from inside, looks fabulous from outside but the panels don’t line up 😊
Looks good, that's it. The rest is disappointing - typical Jeep.
Hey Paul. This is very helpful! I just picked up a grand Cherokee L since it just released I’m Australia!
Niceeeee
Beautiful SUV. I will wait for the trailhawk.
Prices are just insane especially for something like this SUV, and the lack of quality is unfortunately representative of this mark, one would think they would have improved quality due to the price yet not, not disappointed as it’s never been a quality product. Great review Paul.
Another shit box from Jeep, for that price, tell them they are dreaming son.
The build quality seems to be incredibly bad, holy moly.
This vehicle is amazing , really next level refinement, capability on and off road...
I like it but for the money would go for a Genesis GV80. I trust Hyundai more than Jeep.
Will take this review to a Jeep dealer to get a discount...ha
Lucky you, you get the V6 and the "L" at least. Over here in EU/Germany it's only the 2.0 turbo-4cyl PHEV non-L (5seats, short version) for a hefty price increase.
The "old" (last gen.) GC WK2 Summit Diesel had a list price of ~75K Euro (street/dealer price ~55 K Euro), for the PHEV now the call is for ~95K Euro.
No diesel anymore, no V6 or V8 - I'm out. No SRT anymore too.
Nice suv, but they build it with the steering wheel on the wrong side. You might want to let them know.
You are being too nice. That 3rd row is cramped as heck for your size.
Thanks for the review. I had high hopes for this but after watching your review it's dead to me :) plus 115K- 120K price tag?! to buy a JEEP?!!! people must be crazy to even shortlist this for that kind of price
Isn't the discovery its proper rival?
I'm sorry, but the infotainment is not snappy. If it does not compete with an A15 bionic or Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 responsiveness then it is not snappy. I am not sure why there is such a delay in scrolling through menu's in 2022.
Not to mention Jeep havent had a map update for its uconnect since 2016.
wow i love the look of this car especially in this gray colour they also offered a short wheelbase version but it's not available in australia just yet
It definitely looks good in person!
Hey Paul, would it be possible for you to review the DT Ram 1500, preferably the limited trim, thanks. 😊
Doesn’t look like a well made vehicle I bet there will be bits n pieces falling off in no time by the look of it
Great review, Paul. Thank you. I had a deposit down for the L before they released the specs. Cancelled it as soon as the first recalls started been announced in the US. Looking at the quality control of the AU fleet, you just cannot justify the price tag. So glad I canceled the order.
dodged a freakin bullet by the sounds of this. 👍
I agree with Paul, wouldn't buy one either and I'm a Jeep GC fan. Not a fan of there V6 petrol, poor towing numbers. But this is primary a family mover, not a caravan hauler, this may come with other models. Why wouldn't Jeep at least have the 5.7L hemi as an option, stupid.
Boy, the big carry on about a slight panel gap on the tail gate, most likely can be adjust out, but what a carry on by all these so called Jeep experts, just the normal sheep, I'm telling you can find some imperfections on any car. That's why I would never buy a first run on a completely new model. Also far too much money for me.
Paul is reviewing a partially refurbished car...Its like Jeep took the car from Jeeps Crash test and they just added panels here and there and shipped it to AUS
The FCA Giorgio platform this sits on isn't inherently bad but even by American standards the Stellantis Jefferson North Assembly Plant making these doesn't have the best reputation for build quality (putting it mildly).
Looks like I'll hang onto my 2014 Grand Cherokee or replace it with the upcoming Ford Everest.
I can't speak to the upcoming model, but I'm sure you'd be disappointed comparing with the current Everest. I was.
when a car has that autonomous or semi autonomous parking, can you come up with some sort of demonstration to test this? Love your videos Paul
In my personal opinion, this vehicle looks wonderful
Another honest and genuinely informative review from you Paul. Looks like Jeep is targeting “school mums” with this model, rather than the towing community.
Called a slug, but goes onto pull off an 8.2 to 100 which is better than most of the times coming out of the new v6 ranger that has just been tested with 600nm ..... a little bit skewed
I’ve had one for six months and am satisfied. I have the Limited, which is not as fancy or as pricey. The gas mileage is not good though as it is heavy.
Heard there is a recall in Australia for springs coming off the car. This is why i chose palisade
Just for the record, I soon soured of it and traded it in over eight months ago.
The most honest review I’ve seen of this. I would genuinely like this car if it was made by a different brand and 15% lover in price. Can’t imagine spending this kind of money on a Jeep in Australia.
My Honda Civic 2.2 i-CDTi does 340NM, shocking that such a big modern-day car has such little power from gas-guzzling petrol motor.
We need the V8.
Looks like an expensive piece of crap Paul. A good mate of mine is a panel beater here in central Victoria & often has Jeeps, Dodge, GM products in for so called minor transport mishaps. He continually tells me, show me the numerous misaligned doors, tailgates etc on them. Poor production control. Not that I’m an SUV kind of bloke, but this wouldn’t even get on my radar.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ give my that pual for my birthday 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁
Having watched many reviews of this Jeep, I've been dying to hear your opinion, Paul. Great review. You've convinced me to wait til the new engine and build quality is addressed. Failing that... My 5th Jeep will not be a Jeep!
First thing you need to do if you buy a Jeep is check and make sure they have bothered to tighten the ball joints, minor details like these don't seem to worry Jeep and looking at this garbage things woeful panel alignment things have gotten worse. If they can't be stuffed making sure obvious manufacturing faults like panel fit you can only imagine the quality of unsighted mechanicals.
I so wanted to replace my 2012 overlander with 240000k with this (best car ever btw). Saw one at a farm show. Was interested until the towing capacity and price were mentioned. This car will be a disaster for Jeep Australia with that towing capacity. I’ve decided to hold onto the overlander until the new Everest platinum lands. Save $30k and keep the ability to tow the horse float. This Jeep is a bad joke with that engine.
The full size spare would be pointless if i am not mistaken. Especially if it has the same alloy. If you run a cherokee with different wheel size you burn the diff or the system running your 4x4. You need to run evenly used/ same mileage tires or the system thinks one is running faster than the other and starts sending power differently. This was at least with tje older gens. So a spare should not be used long… but i could be mistaken.
This is why I watch an Australian car tester, not just a reviewer. I haven't found anyone like Car Expert in the US,. the one that comes close is Savagegeese. Sadly, most do nothing more than act as advertisers for automakers. The other reason is to see your beautiful country.
I went ahead and got palisade 2023 rather than jeep. I liked jeep but cant trust the brand due to issues with jeep cherokee l in usa
You don’t need to go 600mm deep in water to break things in a Jeep. Just driving on main roads is more than enough.
As an American, I would call this an enormous, expensive, pile of junk.
Best car reviewer!! Thanks for such honest an thorough feedback! We were tossing up between one of these and the new 2023 palisade, but palisade has won us over for a number of reasons. The biggest deterrent for us buying the Jeep was the much higher price to get the summit reserve vs palisade highlander and the warranty being capped at 100k. The other things you have pointed out in this review I had completely overlooked! Such a shame, cause this is so close to being the perfect all rounder car for larger families, but just misses the mark.
Did you choose any of them?
Like Harley's, I want to love Jeeps, but I can't be seen in public with one, especially in Australia.
I was really excited for this as we don't get enough large SUVs here in Australia that are affordable but appears there are a few issues here that are linked to the Jeep of old that we hate and stayed clear of.
I went ahead and got palisade 2023
It's a great looking car, but you'd have to be insane to buy a Jeep. I've heard far too many horror stories.
I often have a close look at vehicles made in America for telltale signs of below-average build assembly quality. Now while the American brands have obviously improved from the crap levels of 25 years ago, the Japanese, Koreans and even some Europeans have moved the goal posts. The American brands still don't understand the term "consistent tolerances".
yes apparently the Tesla Models built in China have better fitment and quality control than the tesla models made in the US
Can't see Jeep surviving much longer in Australia except for maybe the Gladiator and Wrangler will keep the brand here.
great review. how are the dealers gonna turn this one around? Paul just basically wrote their resignation letter right here ahaha
Great review. I own the Grand Cherokee Diesel...pretty pokey on the open raod and great for towing. I think Jeep will lose market share in the caravan sector tht will possibly be picked up by the next gen Ford Everest
Also have a V6 Diesel GC, '20 model, definitely have the Everest on the radar as a replacement in a few years. Curious to know though, does yours have a shocking throttle delay? Test drive cars had none, but upon delivery ours has been awful. Throttle controller does not remedy the issue. Jeep say it's just how they are, and a local tuning mob have said it only came about with the change to the AdBlue V6s. The lag isn't so problematic on the highway, but around town (especially roundabouts) it's just dangerous.
The engine alone belongs to antiquities
I'm American and one of the biggest misconceptions about Americans from watching Australian and English reviews is that we use our doorbins. I do not know anyone who has ever used their doorbins for drinks and bottles, our cupholders are big enough and there is plenty of storage elsewhere throughout our car for bottles. Currently we have a Kia Telluride but we used to have a second gen Dodge Durango and that car didn't even have doorbins, only a little slot in the lower door.
Is that because Americans can't bend down to put anything in them.
test the horn !!
I own the previous model and I love it! Looks like the Grand Jeep in Australia is going the way of the Doe Doe bird🦅 People will just buy the new V6 diesel Ford Everest instead and I wouldn’t blame them as it is a great vehicle with 3.5 tons towing capacity.
Great review, I do love the verdict, rough workmanship as its tradition
I like that he keeps telling us he is not going to lie. Probably a good thing for a reviewer.
With this price they selling,i pick patrol or the 300 anyday
Typical jeep with big price and quality in Chinese standard
This could certainly do with an amended version, engine swap and so due diligence and quality control and it would be worth it. Just remember the top spec 300 series is 150k plus.
I'd wait 12months and see what happens, this seems rushed.
Problem is the 300 series is rubbish and overpriced. And you can’t even buy it currently.
Love the design. Everything else is a let-down (as expected).
They made the same error with the steering wheel heating in the Maserati too. What a fail. I thought another reason they chose not to install buttons as it was cheaper to make icons and move things around in the UI to localise content. What a shame.
A mediocre super sized SUV that would have been 'saved' by the right engine... ie. the 6.4 v8 or the 3.0 turbo diesel... with a stop gap petrol n/a 3.6 v6 that works well in the mid sized FWD sedans in the US then this really shouldnt exist at all... the engine is also very old... in 2022 can you really get away with a plain port injected V6?
When will people learn and especially reviewers that "build quality" says nothing about build quality ! German cars have great "build quality" but fall apart. Unlike Jeeps. Panel gaps simply tell nothing about engine/transmission/tech ...
I love my 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Altitude X, seems like only RUclipsrs can find these "build quality" issues lol some people just love hating Jeep 🤷
It’s a shame their manufacturing lets down their design team. Beautifully designed, shit execution.
Yanks are shite at manufacturing.
Funny how you say the new Pathfinder with 202kw and 340nm is more than adequate in a 2 ton plus vehicle, but not in the Jeep
Come on Paul, its almost too obvious...you hate Jeep,
Jeep have priced themselves out of the market. We had and loved our 2012 Jeep GC Limited. No issues. Even if you take out build quality issues, there a so many other cars I would buy for that same money before I even considered the Jeep. They just have no idea of their place in the market. $100k+ is way over the mark.
Why in the name of God would you want to buy this piss poorly made lump of junk if you can get something like a Lexus RX or a Mazda CX90 instead?
FCA cars always just feel underwhelming and half-hearted. It's like Paint by Numbers, but with cars--nothing they make has any soul.
Reviews a launch car , next time review a car that isn’t a dealer launch , I work in a toyota dealer and the grand Cherokee L we get in make the 300 series look like a piece of rubbish , I would go jeep everyday ,
No Diesel or no V8 no care
Piss poor quality from Jeep over priced with all the issues that’s got. Would never ever touch one or buy one just seems so cheaply built. Rather eat my own hat before I buy a jeep