Jon: "Im not sure why they're so curious about Genitivi and asking him all these questions" Also Jon: _has his mouse directly over the dialogue option of saying they were going to replace a false Genitivi in Denerim_ Jon's -1 Perception strikes again
@@FinneousPJ1 love kingmaker, although i got really tired of the generic kingdom event cards.. "oh, its the FIFTH time in 7 months that vampire aristocrats infiltrated my court?" Thank god for auto mode
To be honest, if Jon keeps Morrigan with the short-stack of hair and booze that is the last companion, he will see some of the best conversations. Let's just say that Oghren is *very* interested in transformation magic and that I wouldn't trust him alone with my pet Nug.
@@abelsoto5151 I have never had an issue with orzammar until nightmare mode. Then I was like *'these damn spiders!'* Everything else was pretty challenging but douable.
@@abelsoto5151 ya u are not wrong on the difficulty. Do able tho. I just like to get oghren. I like to save the Dalish for the last of the main quests since it gives you content to do with all the companions.
I'm surprise how much of the gifting Jon misses, specifically that every gift has a +10 person, and that he should be experimenting with some gifts. He keeps assuming everything is for Leliana purely because she seems like she likes gifts in general, and misses the obvious like, say, templar gift for the guy who liked being a templar.
I think that this is more of a symptom of his immediately jumping to conclusions and then building his own narrative around that. He then tends to discount any evidence that disagrees with this narrative. Its as frustrating as listening to a religious apologist, but its occasionally a good laugh.
@@markism2096 I disagree, its a symptom of an extremely poorly designed game mechanic. Some of the character gifts are just downright cryptic or with zero context clues whatsoever. Many of the dialog you need to experience to get some of the other context clues is also gated above higher affection, meaning that if you don't want to save scum you have to carry around that gift trying to passively raise the affection in the hopes a conversation might give you a clue.... since some gifts are not tailored to a specific person but you cannot deduce that this would mean leaving them in your inventory until you feel confident you've unlocked all a characters dialog at which point you no longer need to gift rendering it a useless and frustrating mechanic. Gifts are absolute shite. They only become tolerable with a mod that tells you who they are for. Otherwise they are only worth a save scum, which is awful on gifts not belonging to any character, or just blinding guessing and saying screw it when it doesn't work. Jon is making the best of bad gameplay here.
xD Jon is never going to learn why Sten killed those children. Or why most of his companions are the way they are. But heck, Claire will have a wagon load of useless junk, so that's nice! lmao
Most of this playthrough reminds me of my first time through. On one hand it was great not knowing what I was missing but on the other hand it sucked knowing I was missing out on things and couldn't change a damn thing.
Y’know, I saw this episode’s title, and knowing nothing about Dragon Age + having not watched this series, I came here just to make this comment… only to find someone beat me to it. Well played.
What’s something great about Dragon Age is that the nature of Andraste and the Maker, and if they really exist/are divine, is never stated, it’s all down to faith, and I think that’s the best representation of religion in a fantasy setting I’ve ever seen. Even in a world of magic and fantastic creatures you have to rely on faith if there are divine beings watching over people in Thedas.
Andraste is literally a figure recorded in history; nowhere has anyone ever questioned if Andraste was real or not. As for her being chosen by divine intervention, well this very mission all but confirms it As Jon said before when listening to Morrigan talking about her atheism, in this world of magic and fantastical stuff, to have someone be unironically atheist is completely out of the norm, in fact im pretty sure Morrigan is the one and only; not counting the Dwarves, because they're just built different.
@@noraye2500 that’s why I added the /are divine bit. It’s like Jesus where we know he existed but if he had any divinity is down to faith. And all of this if you didn’t believe in the faith could be counted as just magic, we’ve seen spirits before, along with a lot of the traps and “tests,” we see in this mission, but you could also attribute it to divine intervention and “being chosen by the maker.” Take a game like Skyrim where you actually see and even communicate with gods and Daedra on occasion, gods are a basic part of life, but at no point in the games do you have any actual proof the maker exists or that Andraste was anything more than a woman.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 i would say in the context of storytelling, while the setting itself might consider it different, on paper there's no real difference between magic and "godly power" since both are effectively magic and are of equal value in terms of being "fantasy" it's kinda the magic and religion thing again that Jon mentioned, when you live in the world of the fantastical, where do you draw the line of what too far out there? Maybe in universe these things aren't fantastical and are just natural, so maybe we the audience have a bias because everything is fantastical, so the idea of divine beings in the world of magic is to us no more or less than the magic fireballs mages shoot from their hands
@@noraye2500 I would actually compare magic in their world to science in ours In the sort of time fantasy is set in most things we can explain now with science was explained by divine intervention, plagues were the wrath of god, if you lost something a Faye probably stole it, now we know germ theory and your just forgetful. There’s a clear distinction between magic where you can heal someone, and things like mass famines and floods that supposedly helped Andraste win her war with the Imperium, you could just say that was likely regular old magic, but you can also believe that it was the intervention of a benevolent higher power.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 the problem with using the science analogy is that science in our world is referenceable and useable by everyone if they're willing to put the time in to understand it. Magic in DA on the other hand is by its nature not the norm, only "special" people are born with the ability to use magic, so there's a disconnect in the world to where even some people living in the world see magic as unnatural; which again is kinda a subversion of common fantasy tropes. There's obviously a hidden meaning to why some people are just born different, and it goes beyond any referenceable understanding of the physical world Unlike say Elder Scrolls, DnD and even Fullmetal Alchemist, magic in those settings is a learnable skill, anyone can do it if they're dedicated enough to learn.
It's really fun to watch someone who hasn't played this game long enough to know the meta. The joy over the next cool coolest move or character wonderful to watch
So the fact that he admits the area he wants to detour to is most likely tired to main quest but might not be anything big is amusing if not surprising from Jon
I only got into the Dragon Age games earlier this year (thank you Game Pass) and I'm borderline obsessed. It made passing time during on and off layoffs so easy. I hope Jon enjoys this game enough to play DAII and DA:Inquisition. The content would be glorious.
@@tite93 Unfortunately it runs like a sack of shit for a lot of people and the story is kind of insane. Performance didn't stop him from playing kotor though so perhaps
@@iamnotjcook I replayed it recently just to see how it held up and, well.... Let's just say I forgot how incomprehensible and bizarre the story was. It's bad writing made worse by bad English translation and lackluster voice acting with very few exceptions
Also probably shouldn't let her hear him calling her Claire when that's not her damn name lol (yes I know, it's a reference. But still kind of a minor pet peeve of mine that he refuses to ever use her actual name)
@@smward87 "Leliana of Orlais, Companion of the Grey Warden, Veteran of the 5th Blight and Left Hand of the Divine". What if Jon had to say that whenever he refers to her.
You notice how there was this mage next to a box of crates in camp? After getting each treaty you get a guy in camp that you can turn stuff in for XP, the Dalish you can give elfroot, which is useful since the Dalish shop has infinite elfroot sold in stacks of 99 for cheap, so if you were interested in a non-glitch way to get infinite XP you can do that, though I know you don't do exploits like that
Are you crazy? When there are litterally dozens of new people in Jons camp, he will have no clue about it and be suprised once he notices them, right before the last push against the Blight... :D
@@darthsaren6519 It literally say 'friendly fire possible' on the wiki and you just need to look at the health bars of other characters in this video to observe their health dropping everytime Jon uses it.
As someone who never played this game and knows nothing about it except what I saw in this series, I have a weird feeling here. The note just found in this part talks about 7 old gods, all apparently dragons. They are all connected to an attribute. There are 7 deadly sins. These have their own demon types. I somehow don't think that's a coincidence, and also... isn't the arch demon from the beginning also a dragon? I get the feeling this entire game is about the elder gods reclaiming the world from the dumb mortals who massively misremember the old days when dragons ruled as gods and some people are going to be surprised as hell when they finally meet the "gods" they were worshipping for centuries while also being afraid of demons ^^
@@Kr0noZ The Archedemon looks like a dragon but is never confirmed to actually be one. And as much as all the theories are fun about elder gods and the twists the story will take well...let's just say it really isn't that deep and it is all mostly surface level and things are exactly as they seem. The story isn't bad, but it's not complex.
@@Kr0noZ From what I recall of the top of my head, those 7 old dragons do become Archedemons if they get infected by the Darkspawn's blight - if Jon does it it get's touched on in the DA:O expansion Awakenings
Love How he thinks every next person he tells that he's a grey warden is gonna change the game dramatically lol dude its BioWare, tell them you're a child murderer and you're still getting the same damn quest
Prime example being Sten the confessed child murderer, and Jon's response being "Well I'll let you join the party, because I'm sure your loyalty mission will reveal you had a good reason..."
I'm not watching this series to avoid spoiling my own eventual playthrough, but this title has me thinking there might be another hundred episodes yet. :P
In the lower left of the character portrait of the inventory screen, you can see presumably your DPS updating as you swap weapons. It shoots up with the dagger.
my first ever comment on youtube and its just an observation that jon wants to take every perk EXCEPT momentum...one day, one day :' ) P.S. momentum is OP and all I want for christmas this year is for jon to give it a chance
And given some of the lore around Flemeth revealed in DA2 and Inquisition, it's not beyond the realm of possibility the two of them might hang out off screen.
The basic concept of 'Dragon Age' is D&D type game à la 'Baldur's Gate.' But then you have so much thought put into each area and bit of lore. I love old Bioware so much. =]
@@seanmcloughlin5983 I didn't even know you could side with them till I looked up how to unlock the reaver with how he missed the mage solution for Connor hopefully he won't either
@@AgentofChaos315 I did it exactly once so I could at least unlock the Reaver class, but then I immediately reloaded it because you get to keep the class even if you did it in an alternate universe, I did the same thing to unlock blood magic lol
Jon: "Andraste is a dragon!" ...it's called the Urn of Sacred Ashes... dragons tend to be immune to fire Jon. Also, if you remember from the darkspawn lore, the darkspawn are digging around for "their gods" and you know that each blight has a super 'Boss Dragon'. You now have a list of dragon gods. A + B = C.
With the sheer amount of situations Jon's gotten the 'worst' result, id love to see how this would go if he moves on to the other games in the series. I feel like alot of the world is going to be alot darker than mine was. I'm also not sure if he's noticed that friendly fire is on, every time he slams with Shale, he half kills himself and Alistair
By the way a way to "fix" the crashing is quick save before entering the building go in, it will crash, have a save either in camp, what I did, or not denerim and when you launch the game load that then load your quick save then it should let you go through the door. Annoying but no fix would work for me but this would work as leaving Denerim also crashed me almost every time but doing this worked.
I had similar experience "bandaging" the crashes by loading sometimes my very first save and then loading into the most recent. I would love to know what actually causes them though considering almost everyone on pc has the exact same experiences.
@@clous081 Memory leak. You need to download the 4gb patch. Most older games don't run on all your cores, and thus will performe badly. The 4gb allows the game to run on 4 from 2 cores, which fixed all bugs, glitches and crashes I had with this game.
"This is all tier 1 stuff! What a con artist!" I mean, I'm not sure why you're surprised that a travelling merchant whose wares are at a discount isn't offering you equipment worthy of a king.
The Denerim crashes on my last playthrough (Win 10, Ryzen 5000, 1650s) were largely fixed by turning down (to minimum, iirc) AA, AF, and texture detail. Dunno which one did it, I turned them all down/off at the same time.
My game runs smoothly until Denerim every time, and then it feels like the crashes just set in harder and harder all the way through awakening and witch hunt. I would love to know what actually causes them considering literally everyone's pc game experiences them
I had the same issue when I launched DAO a week ago, did the same thing : put every video sliders to LOW, game loaded like a charm. You can then turn graphics back to high. Repeat each time it is needed (which was, incindently, quite often.)
16:20 Not gonna lie, putting Alistair in stasis right after he aggroes everyone around was a tactic that won me a number of fights in Nightmare playthrough, including the ones in blood mage hideout Jon wisely decided to dip out of on his first run through Denerim. Just put him in stasis and then blast him with fireballs, which is just such an overpowered and satisfying spell in first game. Knockdown, burn, short cooldown, and most importantly - BIGBOOM.mp3.
Hey Jon, there were a few comments about this on the last video and I'm sure you're recording ahead to avoid spoilers just like with Subnautica, but doing/installling the 4GB patch will probably help with your crashes.
7:45 what Jon just said is nonsense. How is a darkspawn invasion no threat to anyone? Also last time the elves didnt helped against darkspawn, it had ended up realy badly for them.
Force field can also take an enemy out of combat for a little while so that you can deal with him later. For instance you can try to force-field a tougher opponent so you can mop up his minions first and then come back for him.
It's also useful to use on your tank who just pulled agro, because the enemies will become useless. Sometimes they keep attacking but obviously can't do anything, and others will just be stuck looking at them. According to the wiki, force field was supposed to remove threat from a target, but it wasn't properly implemented, which is why the AI gets confused when their target is in it
Jon, you should consider leaving Alistair and bringing Wynne next time. Shale has the tank role covered, and the next time you accidentally do something reprehensible Alistair will be blissfully unaware and won’t hate you.
This is not 100% correct. Some actions are so bad, they will know about it and confront you once you get to camp. A certain decision with what you can do with the Ashes is a good example of this.
Any plans to to play the rest of the series? The sequels are very divisive and I'm not sure if they're entirely to your taste but there's still goods things about them.
@@Hoppelite yep, still though they re used dungeons in 2 more often than in 1… it makes some sense, since it’s all in one city, but really there should have been more diversity.
Seeing you learn exactly what Force Field does reminds me of the first time I used it on my own party. It was actually on my own PC (an Arcane Warrior+Spirit Healer) who was the last one standing and surrounded. I had just enough mana to cast Rejuvenate and after a tick or two could self cast Force Field. The enemies couldn't hurt me and I was given about 15 seconds to get enough of my mana and health back (I had a +HP combat regen item on of some kind) that while still tanking 3 or 4 enemies I could pull off a Revival on all 3 and Wynne could take over the healing again.
But even ignoring that, the dalish take pride in not using as much metal as other races and instead preferring to use wood and other sources, thou I think wade would be better person
is the elf voiced by......tuvok from voyager? almost sounds like him also, wondering if you can also use the forcefield to freeze a highlevel enemy so that you can deal with all the faff enemies first?
I like to think that every time he goes to a party or event and meets new people he whispers to Claire constantly about how they're lying and how they will inevitably subvert his expectations.
You're only realising this now? Despite fact he spent most of ther series so far talking about how Blood Mages are "Misunderstood" and "really just need to get out from under the Evil Evil Templars" despite having a pile of proof so large that you could use it to convict several cities worth of war criminal saying the exact opposite
He also has this weird expectation that everyone is (A) straightforward and honest, and (B) desperate to please him because he's the protagonist. He misses so much nuance. Also I'm biased because I really wish he'd use Sten and the Dog.
@@billyhyde1415 Yeah. Jon seems to think everyone knows he's the protagonist. But he's not Commander Shepard here. Hes a random nobody from a group that is see by most people in the world as nutters who should have died out years ago. No one is gonna treat him anymore special than a random grunt in the army.
You finally met Tim Russ in game, nice! About the star metal, it is tied to one of the DLCs, it would definitely be worth your while to focus on those next.
Jon: "If anyone asks, I'm not a Gray Warden, my name is Bill and I'm looking for my lost dog." Guard: "What are you doing here?" Jon: "I'm a trader here to sell herbs to your shop, they'll love it." Never change, Jon. Lol
Excellent choice with force field, its a great utility spell both for crowd control and for sending alistair or another melee person into the fray having them grab aggro putting them in a force field and then nuking the area with huge aoe effects and bombs.
I tend to use it on tougher enemies (to keep them out of the fight for a while). Regardless I do like spells which can be used in multiple ways. It invites creative play.
Gift minor guide: spoiler free Morigan likes jewellery Alistair likes things to do with templars and his heritage Sten is a warrior, he likes battles, that red Queen painting is for him Leilana is clothes, the fancy type Zevran REALLY wants comfy leather boots Oghren wants booze, all the alcohol in ferelden Wynn likes artefacts and Mage lore Shale wants a pet rock
On the off chance you don't notice, Shales big AOE has friendly fire. Force field can also be used on enemies (human sized, nothing bigger than an ogre) if you want to just put them on pause in the middle of a fight.
Hence why force field says that friendly fire is *"possible"*. You are normally intended to use it on enemies to keep them out of the fight while you kill other foes. It *can* be used for rescue if you need it to, but that isn't the main reason. It's like using a rocket launcher *only* to rocket jump. Sure it might help, but don't forget that it shoots rockets!
Honestly, i just ran Morrigan on the Entropy magic tree and it was kinda disgusting how OP it is to stack debuffs and hexes on enemies and just rip through them
Jon's really having us for a laugh by thinking the Templar armor isn't as good as he thinks it is, but sure Jon, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night :P
@@killean2645 It's kinda low. There aren't many chests in the game that require more than 60 total score (each level of lockpicking gives +20 iirc, same as each level of persuasion, but persuasion is much more important).
@@masansr Well, he won't be able to do few quests without opening some chests. For example where you need to collect 12 love letters. He just missed one in Haven
Has anyone told Jon that wearing full sets of armor provide item set bonuses yet? I don't recall him considering that in his gear or reading it in a comment. When you Press C and view your character page on the bottom right corner of the picture in your buff sections there will be a buff for wearing a complete armor set. It is not exactly specific in its tooltip so sometimes in order to figure out what the bonus actually is you need to stare at the stat sheet, remove a piece, then put it back on to see what has been further buffed then you were expecting but these can be very good buffs. Such as -15% fatigue or additional armor rating or bonus to primary stats and what not. In this episode for example you probably could have gotten additional benefits from buying the dalish helmet and boots as well even if they weren't major upgrades because you would have picked up an item set bonus. Edit: Moments later you spoke about the healing spells. The third over in the first row of creation, is actually a very powerful HoT. Even though you don't view its effect immediately upon casting it is pretty strong and Glyph of Life Warding or something like that is also a heal. You cast it pre-emptively on your tank or character and when they fall below health threshold it automatically blooms and heals. There is a death hex that the darkspawn emissaries cast quite a bit that is a DoT and prevents all healing during its duration and its a very deadly spell. Its the type of thing you would consider cleansing with Alistar or a Mage of your own. I loved the entire Dragon Age series. You got me re-doing a playthrough as a Dwarf Commoner - Archer.
in case you didnt notice in the mages tower the templar shop has a very pricy belt over100 gold if i remember correctly, it gives you +1 to all attributes, also a unmarked quest in the dwarf city, gain all codex entry's that can be found inside the city, after this is done a quest will appear in your journal with very good loot as a reward
Just because every gift looks like it is a gift for Leliana (That is Clair in your language :D)... does not mean that every gift you find realy, trully is for Leliana... It just means you did not realy listen to your other companions :D
Some other uses for that force field spell, when fighting groups with a large enemy involved, say an ogre plus darkspawn, you can make chokepoints in doors etc, by forcefielding ideally the big guy in the door, then launch a bunch of aoe spells behind them, so theyre all essentially running in to a wall getting hit by spells while you're safe. It also combines nicely for an aoe by casting crushing prison then force field. Can be used to save allies getting picked up by ogres, and big enemies that grab, or on your tank after they've taunted.
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Jon: "Im not sure why they're so curious about Genitivi and asking him all these questions"
Also Jon: _has his mouse directly over the dialogue option of saying they were going to replace a false Genitivi in Denerim_
Jon's -1 Perception strikes again
Ohhhhhhh
@@ManyATrueNerd it's okay Jon, we still love you
@@ManyATrueNerd Have you considered glasses? Or perhaps a Seeing Eye Claire?
@@ManyATrueNerd Why do i have an option to translate your sentence to English?
@@ManyATrueNerd What was it you called Alistair? I think it was adorable potato.
Fun fact: a lot of the journal entries for locations and cultures were written by Genetivi in his travels.
I think like half of Dragon Age 2 lore is written by him
Man gets around
Fun fact, if you play as a Dalish or a City Elf the codex entries on the Dalish are different, they're also different from each other too
BioWare really went above and beyond with Dragon Age: Origins.
@@DreddPirateRoberts yes unfortunately nothing they've done since comes even close... but recently I'm enjoying PF Kingmaker
@@FinneousPJ1 love kingmaker, although i got really tired of the generic kingdom event cards.. "oh, its the FIFTH time in 7 months that vampire aristocrats infiltrated my court?" Thank god for auto mode
@@FinneousPJ1 Unfortunately, PF Kingmaker is an absolutely buggy mess on consoles. It's pretty much unplayable after Troll Trouble.
Its the best game they ever made
Wardens keep(for loot and storage) and orzammar(for the last companion) should be high priorities.
Loving the series.
Idk I usually do orzammar towards the end because it’s pretty hard
To be honest, if Jon keeps Morrigan with the short-stack of hair and booze that is the last companion, he will see some of the best conversations. Let's just say that Oghren is *very* interested in transformation magic and that I wouldn't trust him alone with my pet Nug.
@@abelsoto5151 I have never had an issue with orzammar until nightmare mode. Then I was like *'these damn spiders!'* Everything else was pretty challenging but douable.
@@abelsoto5151 ya u are not wrong on the difficulty. Do able tho. I just like to get oghren. I like to save the Dalish for the last of the main quests since it gives you content to do with all the companions.
Considering Jon's disposition I find it hard to believe he'd do anything other than hate Oghren for no good reason.
The paintings are meant as gifts for someone who appreciates the "artist's discipline".
And Jon wouldn't expect it to be them.
Yeah... but - did any of us expected that? Really? :) This is so counterintuitive
I'm surprise how much of the gifting Jon misses, specifically that every gift has a +10 person, and that he should be experimenting with some gifts.
He keeps assuming everything is for Leliana purely because she seems like she likes gifts in general, and misses the obvious like, say, templar gift for the guy who liked being a templar.
I think that this is more of a symptom of his immediately jumping to conclusions and then building his own narrative around that. He then tends to discount any evidence that disagrees with this narrative. Its as frustrating as listening to a religious apologist, but its occasionally a good laugh.
@@markism2096 I disagree, its a symptom of an extremely poorly designed game mechanic. Some of the character gifts are just downright cryptic or with zero context clues whatsoever. Many of the dialog you need to experience to get some of the other context clues is also gated above higher affection, meaning that if you don't want to save scum you have to carry around that gift trying to passively raise the affection in the hopes a conversation might give you a clue.... since some gifts are not tailored to a specific person but you cannot deduce that this would mean leaving them in your inventory until you feel confident you've unlocked all a characters dialog at which point you no longer need to gift rendering it a useless and frustrating mechanic.
Gifts are absolute shite. They only become tolerable with a mod that tells you who they are for. Otherwise they are only worth a save scum, which is awful on gifts not belonging to any character, or just blinding guessing and saying screw it when it doesn't work.
Jon is making the best of bad gameplay here.
xD Jon is never going to learn why Sten killed those children. Or why most of his companions are the way they are. But heck, Claire will have a wagon load of useless junk, so that's nice! lmao
Golem goes brrrr = Jon happy
Most of this playthrough reminds me of my first time through. On one hand it was great not knowing what I was missing but on the other hand it sucked knowing I was missing out on things and couldn't change a damn thing.
@@matthewwoods366 that'S fine. What'S REALLY sad is to play a game like this by guides and wikis to be maximum efficient.
@@5Andysalive You don't need those, you just have to be perceptive..
Jon hoping to turn this series into “Romancing the Stone” 😂
Boooooo!
**badum TSH**
So you got so lost you ended up in Skyrim? Impressive Jon
With Jon, anything is possible.
He does have - 1 perception after all.
Y’know, I saw this episode’s title, and knowing nothing about Dragon Age + having not watched this series, I came here just to make this comment… only to find someone beat me to it.
Well played.
He actually got lost on the way to Ivarstead and ended up in DAO. Just for this episode tho
What’s something great about Dragon Age is that the nature of Andraste and the Maker, and if they really exist/are divine, is never stated, it’s all down to faith, and I think that’s the best representation of religion in a fantasy setting I’ve ever seen. Even in a world of magic and fantastic creatures you have to rely on faith if there are divine beings watching over people in Thedas.
Andraste is literally a figure recorded in history; nowhere has anyone ever questioned if Andraste was real or not. As for her being chosen by divine intervention, well this very mission all but confirms it
As Jon said before when listening to Morrigan talking about her atheism, in this world of magic and fantastical stuff, to have someone be unironically atheist is completely out of the norm, in fact im pretty sure Morrigan is the one and only; not counting the Dwarves, because they're just built different.
@@noraye2500 that’s why I added the /are divine bit. It’s like Jesus where we know he existed but if he had any divinity is down to faith.
And all of this if you didn’t believe in the faith could be counted as just magic, we’ve seen spirits before, along with a lot of the traps and “tests,” we see in this mission, but you could also attribute it to divine intervention and “being chosen by the maker.”
Take a game like Skyrim where you actually see and even communicate with gods and Daedra on occasion, gods are a basic part of life, but at no point in the games do you have any actual proof the maker exists or that Andraste was anything more than a woman.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 i would say in the context of storytelling, while the setting itself might consider it different, on paper there's no real difference between magic and "godly power" since both are effectively magic and are of equal value in terms of being "fantasy"
it's kinda the magic and religion thing again that Jon mentioned, when you live in the world of the fantastical, where do you draw the line of what too far out there?
Maybe in universe these things aren't fantastical and are just natural, so maybe we the audience have a bias because everything is fantastical, so the idea of divine beings in the world of magic is to us no more or less than the magic fireballs mages shoot from their hands
@@noraye2500 I would actually compare magic in their world to science in ours
In the sort of time fantasy is set in most things we can explain now with science was explained by divine intervention, plagues were the wrath of god, if you lost something a Faye probably stole it, now we know germ theory and your just forgetful.
There’s a clear distinction between magic where you can heal someone, and things like mass famines and floods that supposedly helped Andraste win her war with the Imperium, you could just say that was likely regular old magic, but you can also believe that it was the intervention of a benevolent higher power.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 the problem with using the science analogy is that science in our world is referenceable and useable by everyone if they're willing to put the time in to understand it.
Magic in DA on the other hand is by its nature not the norm, only "special" people are born with the ability to use magic, so there's a disconnect in the world to where even some people living in the world see magic as unnatural; which again is kinda a subversion of common fantasy tropes. There's obviously a hidden meaning to why some people are just born different, and it goes beyond any referenceable understanding of the physical world
Unlike say Elder Scrolls, DnD and even Fullmetal Alchemist, magic in those settings is a learnable skill, anyone can do it if they're dedicated enough to learn.
It's really fun to watch someone who hasn't played this game long enough to know the meta. The joy over the next cool coolest move or character wonderful to watch
where would I go to know this meta?
So the fact that he admits the area he wants to detour to is most likely tired to main quest but might not be anything big is amusing if not surprising from Jon
"Let's take a small detour to THE MAIN PLOT"
I only got into the Dragon Age games earlier this year (thank you Game Pass) and I'm borderline obsessed. It made passing time during on and off layoffs so easy. I hope Jon enjoys this game enough to play DAII and DA:Inquisition. The content would be glorious.
If he dose it won’t be for years probably. I’m still hoping for Witcher 2 or x com 2
@@Usernamehear I wouldn't mind him playing the first Witcher, honestly
That game is so clunky, but it feels like a very old action RPG
@@tite93 ya I would like to see that too I never played that one but he only did like 4 episodes of it
@@tite93 Unfortunately it runs like a sack of shit for a lot of people and the story is kind of insane. Performance didn't stop him from playing kotor though so perhaps
@@iamnotjcook I replayed it recently just to see how it held up and, well.... Let's just say I forgot how incomprehensible and bizarre the story was. It's bad writing made worse by bad English translation and lackluster voice acting with very few exceptions
"I think I might end up with Claire just by default". Don't let her hear you say that.
Also probably shouldn't let her hear him calling her Claire when that's not her damn name lol (yes I know, it's a reference. But still kind of a minor pet peeve of mine that he refuses to ever use her actual name)
@@smward87 "Leliana of Orlais, Companion of the Grey Warden, Veteran of the 5th Blight and Left Hand of the Divine". What if Jon had to say that whenever he refers to her.
I can't wait for Jon to find out about Shale and who they actually are..
22:27 in an alternate timeline, Jon considers pursuing a career in geology instead of dating Claire.
AKA The darkest timeline, because this Chanel wouldn't exist.
You notice how there was this mage next to a box of crates in camp? After getting each treaty you get a guy in camp that you can turn stuff in for XP, the Dalish you can give elfroot, which is useful since the Dalish shop has infinite elfroot sold in stacks of 99 for cheap, so if you were interested in a non-glitch way to get infinite XP you can do that, though I know you don't do exploits like that
Are you crazy? When there are litterally dozens of new people in Jons camp, he will have no clue about it and be suprised once he notices them, right before the last push against the Blight... :D
@@m3divhI'd bet 50bucks on that, easily
"Werewolfism" also known as Lycanthropy Jon.
“She’s just really easy to buy presents for.” Well, yes, given that she’ll happily accept all the presents that are supposed to go to the others. :-p
does Jon realize Shales earthquake did more damage to his team than the whole cult?
Edit: ah, hes finally figured it out
When did he figure it out?
It's funny that he avoids friendly fire with coc but not Quake. Why does he never use mind blast?
@@rsync9490 watching him play is pure agony, but fuck me .. it's kinda entertaining lol we just gotta set the bar really low and hope for the best
i dont think shale quake does friendly fire
@@darthsaren6519 It literally say 'friendly fire possible' on the wiki and you just need to look at the health bars of other characters in this video to observe their health dropping everytime Jon uses it.
Jon's theory regarding a dragon, so close and yet so far
As someone who never played this game and knows nothing about it except what I saw in this series, I have a weird feeling here.
The note just found in this part talks about 7 old gods, all apparently dragons.
They are all connected to an attribute.
There are 7 deadly sins.
These have their own demon types.
I somehow don't think that's a coincidence, and also... isn't the arch demon from the beginning also a dragon?
I get the feeling this entire game is about the elder gods reclaiming the world from the dumb mortals who massively misremember the old days when dragons ruled as gods and some people are going to be surprised as hell when they finally meet the "gods" they were worshipping for centuries while also being afraid of demons ^^
@@Kr0noZ The Archedemon looks like a dragon but is never confirmed to actually be one. And as much as all the theories are fun about elder gods and the twists the story will take well...let's just say it really isn't that deep and it is all mostly surface level and things are exactly as they seem. The story isn't bad, but it's not complex.
@@Kr0noZ From what I recall of the top of my head, those 7 old dragons do become Archedemons if they get infected by the Darkspawn's blight - if Jon does it it get's touched on in the DA:O expansion Awakenings
Love How he thinks every next person he tells that he's a grey warden is gonna change the game dramatically lol dude its BioWare, tell them you're a child murderer and you're still getting the same damn quest
Prime example being Sten the confessed child murderer, and Jon's response being "Well I'll let you join the party, because I'm sure your loyalty mission will reveal you had a good reason..."
I'm not watching this series to avoid spoiling my own eventual playthrough, but this title has me thinking there might be another hundred episodes yet. :P
We're making our way to Ivarstead, to the tune of "We're taking the hobbits to Isengard"
"Isengard gard gard gard taking the hobbits to Isengard"
“What did you say” - “the Balrog of Mordor”
"Tell me where is Gandalf, for I much desire to speak with him."
In the lower left of the character portrait of the inventory screen, you can see presumably your DPS updating as you swap weapons. It shoots up with the dagger.
Bro are you actually expecting him to pay attention ?
my first ever comment on youtube and its just an observation that jon wants to take every perk EXCEPT momentum...one day, one day :' )
P.S. momentum is OP and all I want for christmas this year is for jon to give it a chance
Jon just an FYI, the meteor metal is DLC stuff. Your not gonna find a Smith for it in the base game
It doesn’t go to the gay couple in Denerim?
@@alexanderhammil6754 Nope. He's an armor-smith. He can make you rare armor but not weapons
@@rpbuilds "Star metal," as the smith calls it.
@@Mobysimo He does make you weapons as well in Awakening.
It's a shame that Bioware didn't make an option to give it to Wade so that he could turn it into a super Shield or something
I just love that Captain Janeway is Flemeth and Tuvok is the Keeper of the Dalesh Elves.
And given some of the lore around Flemeth revealed in DA2 and Inquisition, it's not beyond the realm of possibility the two of them might hang out off screen.
The basic concept of 'Dragon Age' is D&D type game à la 'Baldur's Gate.' But then you have so much thought put into each area and bit of lore. I love old Bioware so much. =]
I have to laugh at your theory at the end, you're so close to what the cult believes
It honestly worry’s me Jons going to actually believe them and go along with it.
@@seanmcloughlin5983 I didn't even know you could side with them till I looked up how to unlock the reaver with how he missed the mage solution for Connor hopefully he won't either
@@AgentofChaos315 I did it exactly once so I could at least unlock the Reaver class, but then I immediately reloaded it because you get to keep the class even if you did it in an alternate universe, I did the same thing to unlock blood magic lol
@@seanmcloughlin5983 Icing on the cake if he decides to bring Leliana and/or Wynne.
@@AgentofChaos315 that still fucking amazes me lol he's so lost in this game
I think I remember a dev saying that the concept behind Andraste was a cross between Jesus and Joan of Arc, which I always found pretty cool.
Jon: "Andraste is a dragon!" ...it's called the Urn of Sacred Ashes... dragons tend to be immune to fire Jon. Also, if you remember from the darkspawn lore, the darkspawn are digging around for "their gods" and you know that each blight has a super 'Boss Dragon'. You now have a list of dragon gods. A + B = C.
He had me convinced lol.
The first name on his list is even Dumat which a while ago was his theory on who the archdemon is
With the sheer amount of situations Jon's gotten the 'worst' result, id love to see how this would go if he moves on to the other games in the series. I feel like alot of the world is going to be alot darker than mine was.
I'm also not sure if he's noticed that friendly fire is on, every time he slams with Shale, he half kills himself and Alistair
By the way a way to "fix" the crashing is quick save before entering the building go in, it will crash, have a save either in camp, what I did, or not denerim and when you launch the game load that then load your quick save then it should let you go through the door. Annoying but no fix would work for me but this would work as leaving Denerim also crashed me almost every time but doing this worked.
I had similar experience "bandaging" the crashes by loading sometimes my very first save and then loading into the most recent. I would love to know what actually causes them though considering almost everyone on pc has the exact same experiences.
@@clous081 Memory leak. You need to download the 4gb patch. Most older games don't run on all your cores, and thus will performe badly. The 4gb allows the game to run on 4 from 2 cores, which fixed all bugs, glitches and crashes I had with this game.
@@Skumtomten1 I play with the 4g patch
I've said it before, but it's quite enjoyable having Jon dive into the lore of this game. It's deep and layered, with multiple points of view.
"This is all tier 1 stuff! What a con artist!"
I mean, I'm not sure why you're surprised that a travelling merchant whose wares are at a discount isn't offering you equipment worthy of a king.
Shiny things, one Jon's greatest weaknesses. Probably second only to roads...mostly the building of them.
Well, we know he likes the romans so this is hardly surprising lol
The Denerim crashes on my last playthrough (Win 10, Ryzen 5000, 1650s) were largely fixed by turning down (to minimum, iirc) AA, AF, and texture detail. Dunno which one did it, I turned them all down/off at the same time.
My game runs smoothly until Denerim every time, and then it feels like the crashes just set in harder and harder all the way through awakening and witch hunt. I would love to know what actually causes them considering literally everyone's pc game experiences them
I had the same issue when I launched DAO a week ago, did the same thing : put every video sliders to LOW, game loaded like a charm. You can then turn graphics back to high. Repeat each time it is needed (which was, incindently, quite often.)
4gb patch is recommended.
16:20
Not gonna lie, putting Alistair in stasis right after he aggroes everyone around was a tactic that won me a number of fights in Nightmare playthrough, including the ones in blood mage hideout Jon wisely decided to dip out of on his first run through Denerim.
Just put him in stasis and then blast him with fireballs, which is just such an overpowered and satisfying spell in first game. Knockdown, burn, short cooldown, and most importantly - BIGBOOM.mp3.
Hey Jon, there were a few comments about this on the last video and I'm sure you're recording ahead to avoid spoilers just like with Subnautica, but doing/installling the 4GB patch will probably help with your crashes.
Jon: _Nearly 20 minutes in_ I'm going to Haven!
Me: Wait, the title of this sounded familiar... _Reads title_ Oh, God.
11:12 - The ore you recovered from the meteor is part of the Warden's Keep DLC. IIRC, you'll have access to a proper blacksmith through that quest.
I'm very glad this didn't turn into an actual journey to Ivarstead, in which you would finally make it to Haven in part 30.
Thanks for the video!
Morrigan is probably confused that this elf leader she's never met seems to be a dear old friend of her mother's.
36:35 "OK, I feel like we're not talking this guy down, and I'm not 100% convinced I want too" 😂😂😂 said so subtly, but made my night
@many A true nerd-- to fix the crashes in denrium just lower your graphics. is a bug, but for some reason on low graphics the problems goes away.
7:45 what Jon just said is nonsense. How is a darkspawn invasion no threat to anyone? Also last time the elves didnt helped against darkspawn, it had ended up realy badly for them.
Well if it _does_ turn out to be a dragon, at least we'll know why the bears are on fire!
Jon using Force Field on Alistair is the most Jon thing ever.
Death of a Templar is an allusion to Death of A Salesman. :)
I really like the Ashes' questiline. It's very fun. It's one of the first I usually do.
Force field can also take an enemy out of combat for a little while so that you can deal with him later. For instance you can try to force-field a tougher opponent so you can mop up his minions first and then come back for him.
It's also useful to use on your tank who just pulled agro, because the enemies will become useless. Sometimes they keep attacking but obviously can't do anything, and others will just be stuck looking at them. According to the wiki, force field was supposed to remove threat from a target, but it wasn't properly implemented, which is why the AI gets confused when their target is in it
Huh, I thought Zathrian sounded familiar - turns out it's Tim Russ, who played Tuvok on Voyager
And don't forget Flemeth is Janeway. Also Neelix is in the game somehwere
Aaaand now I only hear Tuvok.
I know it's not Voyager, but Morrigan is Aeryn Sun from Farscape.
@@evilbob840 Claudia Black - She's also in Stargate too. Nerd-Queen
@@vikajorjadze8968 I thought of that, but I couldn't remember her character's name. lol
There would've been a shopkeeper and could shop from him, if you didn't go into the back there would be no fight till the Chantry
jon traps and lock picking are one skill
Actually the silver and gold bars are for Zevran oddly
Oddly? He's a mercenary, he loves the shiny
Khajit has wares if you have coin.
Yay Dragon Age!Load up the map and use the magic tab button to label all the POI it shows without a mouse over. Much easier :)
Jon: Why were the cultists keeping you alive?
Genetivi: To replace me.
Jon: So you don't know.
Genetivi: ...?
Jon, you should consider leaving Alistair and bringing Wynne next time. Shale has the tank role covered, and the next time you accidentally do something reprehensible Alistair will be blissfully unaware and won’t hate you.
This is not 100% correct. Some actions are so bad, they will know about it and confront you once you get to camp. A certain decision with what you can do with the Ashes is a good example of this.
Any plans to to play the rest of the series? The sequels are very divisive and I'm not sure if they're entirely to your taste but there's still goods things about them.
Just skip 2 and go straight to inquisition
Just play 2 and forget Inquisition.
@@ThatOneDude695 2 is important to the series, the hell are you smoking
@@ThatOneDude695 DA2 is a great game if you look past all the reused dungeons. My favorite story in the whole series
@@Hoppelite yep, still though they re used dungeons in 2 more often than in 1… it makes some sense, since it’s all in one city, but really there should have been more diversity.
Oh god! Jon is NOT the best person to solve your problem Elves! Take your stuff and run!
Seeing you learn exactly what Force Field does reminds me of the first time I used it on my own party. It was actually on my own PC (an Arcane Warrior+Spirit Healer) who was the last one standing and surrounded. I had just enough mana to cast Rejuvenate and after a tick or two could self cast Force Field. The enemies couldn't hurt me and I was given about 15 seconds to get enough of my mana and health back (I had a +HP combat regen item on of some kind) that while still tanking 3 or 4 enemies I could pull off a Revival on all 3 and Wynne could take over the healing again.
Claire's love-language is gift giving! :)
Any conversation between Shale and Morgan is pure gold. 💯
Jon, force field is great for freezing bosses while you kill the little lads.
There was a dialogue option that said exactly why they kept Genitivi alive
You have to take the meteorite ore to the blacksmith in the warden keep DLC. When you get drake and dragon scales visit Denerim market and see wade.
40:10
"Misery, can you do anything about this author's foot?"
*Shale is stunned* Shale is doing great, love-ah-lee
Jon’s comment at 29:40 sounds like something most likely said by Charles the first
Sorry jon the metor metal is for the wardens keep dlc. Honestly its probably time for you to do it, its not end game level
But even ignoring that, the dalish take pride in not using as much metal as other races and instead preferring to use wood and other sources, thou I think wade would be better person
Oh God, please tell me he's not going to believe the crazy dragon cult on Andraste...
is the elf voiced by......tuvok from voyager? almost sounds like him
also, wondering if you can also use the forcefield to freeze a highlevel enemy so that you can deal with all the faff enemies first?
Well spotted, yes! Zathrian is voiced by Tim Russ.
(And yeah, Force Field is a wonderful cc tool.)
@@vaspeter2600 aha nice! Though bonus points for you, knowing the actors name.
I almost always only remember the character they played lol
Jon is a really bad judge of character isn't he?
I like to think that every time he goes to a party or event and meets new people he whispers to Claire constantly about how they're lying and how they will inevitably subvert his expectations.
@@BRUXXUS I can't wait to see what he thinks of Branka.
You're only realising this now? Despite fact he spent most of ther series so far talking about how Blood Mages are "Misunderstood" and "really just need to get out from under the Evil Evil Templars" despite having a pile of proof so large that you could use it to convict several cities worth of war criminal saying the exact opposite
He also has this weird expectation that everyone is (A) straightforward and honest, and (B) desperate to please him because he's the protagonist. He misses so much nuance. Also I'm biased because I really wish he'd use Sten and the Dog.
@@billyhyde1415 Yeah. Jon seems to think everyone knows he's the protagonist. But he's not Commander Shepard here.
Hes a random nobody from a group that is see by most people in the world as nutters who should have died out years ago. No one is gonna treat him anymore special than a random grunt in the army.
You finally met Tim Russ in game, nice! About the star metal, it is tied to one of the DLCs, it would definitely be worth your while to focus on those next.
Jon: "If anyone asks, I'm not a Gray Warden, my name is Bill and I'm looking for my lost dog."
Guard: "What are you doing here?"
Jon: "I'm a trader here to sell herbs to your shop, they'll love it."
Never change, Jon. Lol
Excellent choice with force field, its a great utility spell both for crowd control and for sending alistair or another melee person into the fray having them grab aggro putting them in a force field and then nuking the area with huge aoe effects and bombs.
He completely misunderstood how the spell works, of course, but it's a damn good one if he learns how to use it.
I thought they nerfed it in the first patch. Worked great to activate taunt, then do a storm of the century in the room. Ahh, fun times.
@@vaspeter2600 tbf it's not his fault the in-game description is basically trolling
16:10 Force Field technique to protect a party member is a great for tougher boss battles.
I tend to use it on tougher enemies (to keep them out of the fight for a while). Regardless I do like spells which can be used in multiple ways. It invites creative play.
It’s too bad Jon didn’t bring Sten to Haven
Gift minor guide: spoiler free
Morigan likes jewellery
Alistair likes things to do with templars and his heritage
Sten is a warrior, he likes battles, that red Queen painting is for him
Leilana is clothes, the fancy type
Zevran REALLY wants comfy leather boots
Oghren wants booze, all the alcohol in ferelden
Wynn likes artefacts and Mage lore
Shale wants a pet rock
That death of a templar codex is dated 9:4, which is year 94
Origins takes place in 9:30 which is the year 930
Wouldn't it be 904?
@@DemonicDaemon363 Just checked the wiki, I'm right 9:4 is 94, and 904 is 9:04
@@AgentofChaos315 no, isn't 9 the Age number? 9 is the "Dragon Age", and the current year is 9:30, the 30th year of the Dragon Age.
On the off chance you don't notice, Shales big AOE has friendly fire.
Force field can also be used on enemies (human sized, nothing bigger than an ogre) if you want to just put them on pause in the middle of a fight.
Hence why force field says that friendly fire is *"possible"*. You are normally intended to use it on enemies to keep them out of the fight while you kill other foes. It *can* be used for rescue if you need it to, but that isn't the main reason.
It's like using a rocket launcher *only* to rocket jump. Sure it might help, but don't forget that it shoots rockets!
I remember my first time in the temple and was so confused about how he was fine when those reinforcements came in
Soo... We had 44 lesser poultices in Brecilian but only 25 at the end of video :O. For how "easy" it is we sure are burning through them quickly.
They heal the least of any, hopefully he soon starts making the more advanced ones otherwise he will struggle
I'm sad no one in Jon's team is going Spirit magic. Best school right there.
Honestly, i just ran Morrigan on the Entropy magic tree and it was kinda disgusting how OP it is to stack debuffs and hexes on enemies and just rip through them
@@noraye2500 The cc spam is something monstrously effective.
Jon's really having us for a laugh by thinking the Templar armor isn't as good as he thinks it is, but sure Jon, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night :P
The anti-templar sentiment is strong
I can't believe you didn't buy that skill book.
Also: Jon plays a rogue who can't open locks.... Feels like a metaphor for something.
The not taking lock picking thing is painful to watch, it is usually my highest priority
You don't actually need all that much lockpicking, maybe a level or two, high cunning does the same job without wasting skillpoints.
@@masansr *looks at Jon's Cunning stat* hmmm...
@@killean2645 It's kinda low. There aren't many chests in the game that require more than 60 total score (each level of lockpicking gives +20 iirc, same as each level of persuasion, but persuasion is much more important).
@@masansr Well, he won't be able to do few quests without opening some chests. For example where you need to collect 12 love letters. He just missed one in Haven
I love how he thinks stuff that doesn't matter does, and stuff that matters doesn't
Jon. You Are A Rogue. Invest. In. LOCKPICKING.
you have yet to experience the "pull the axe out of the stump" popup played for 12 years, seen it twice.
Has anyone told Jon that wearing full sets of armor provide item set bonuses yet? I don't recall him considering that in his gear or reading it in a comment. When you Press C and view your character page on the bottom right corner of the picture in your buff sections there will be a buff for wearing a complete armor set. It is not exactly specific in its tooltip so sometimes in order to figure out what the bonus actually is you need to stare at the stat sheet, remove a piece, then put it back on to see what has been further buffed then you were expecting but these can be very good buffs. Such as -15% fatigue or additional armor rating or bonus to primary stats and what not. In this episode for example you probably could have gotten additional benefits from buying the dalish helmet and boots as well even if they weren't major upgrades because you would have picked up an item set bonus.
Edit: Moments later you spoke about the healing spells. The third over in the first row of creation, is actually a very powerful HoT. Even though you don't view its effect immediately upon casting it is pretty strong and Glyph of Life Warding or something like that is also a heal. You cast it pre-emptively on your tank or character and when they fall below health threshold it automatically blooms and heals. There is a death hex that the darkspawn emissaries cast quite a bit that is a DoT and prevents all healing during its duration and its a very deadly spell. Its the type of thing you would consider cleansing with Alistar or a Mage of your own.
I loved the entire Dragon Age series. You got me re-doing a playthrough as a Dwarf Commoner - Archer.
Enchantment?
Enchantment!
As you mentioned it Jon Crushing Prison is amazing and genuinely one of the best spells in the game definitely get Morrigan set up with it.
in case you didnt notice in the mages tower the templar shop has a very pricy belt over100 gold if i remember correctly, it gives you +1 to all attributes, also a unmarked quest in the dwarf city, gain all codex entry's that can be found inside the city, after this is done a quest will appear in your journal with very good loot as a reward
i think its great that tim russ voices zathrian
he also worked on star trek voyager with flemeths voice actor
Just because every gift looks like it is a gift for Leliana (That is Clair in your language :D)... does not mean that every gift you find realy, trully is for Leliana... It just means you did not realy listen to your other companions :D
Some other uses for that force field spell, when fighting groups with a large enemy involved, say an ogre plus darkspawn, you can make chokepoints in doors etc, by forcefielding ideally the big guy in the door, then launch a bunch of aoe spells behind them, so theyre all essentially running in to a wall getting hit by spells while you're safe. It also combines nicely for an aoe by casting crushing prison then force field. Can be used to save allies getting picked up by ogres, and big enemies that grab, or on your tank after they've taunted.
Just started a skyrim series after watching Jon's like 5-6 times. Thanks for the reference 😅
Love the Skyrim series reference and how many detours it takes.
Really enjoying this series
10/10 title right here