To be clear: I did not make the video to prove one version is superior to the other in any way. I made this for a guest lecture I gave on Hong Kong cinema in order to show students that cultural context can alter the way we make/consume/judge movies.
Thanks for making this video! It was super helpful for me as I used it as a reference in my essay for school. The essay was similar to your lecture, about how cultural context can affect different types of cinema. Without your video it would've been harder for me to prove my point, so thanks again!
Can I ask what was the conclusion of your lecture? I have my opinion but I'd like to hear yours first (background: Westernised Chinese man who loves both HK and American films)
This showed a big difference in term of directing. In The Departed, all I see that Leo acted like a gambler who lost a big bet. In Infernal, we see emotional attachment between 2 characters. And Tong Leung's eye was a gem.
@Thiên Phúc Huỳnh What? The acting in both is pretty good, I'd say the Departed is nearly objectively better, the campy flashback scene in the original is just so bad hahaha.
@thienphuchuynh8378 no i disagree... its almost just as good. tony does slightly better however the way leo switches back and forth from shocked to unfazed when costellos man show up is seamless and arguably makes the scene better.
@thienphuchuynh8378no way you can even compare both movies the departed is on a whole different level then infernal affairs that other movie is way to cheesy
@@shaikohthe scene itself was kinda bad but Leung saved it with his eyes, his reaction is the only highlight. The music itself was a bit much and Asian films in general need to chill out with that and let the scene ride on its own weight. The Departed is also too much in it's own way with excessive cussing and immediately into the action, almost zero time to actually give the scene weight. Both scene were pretty meh and very unnatural for what they were wanting to show.
Leo didn't act like that wtf lol Leo's acting is spot on for someone whose undercover who just saw his captain alive 30 seconds ago and then bam his dead body falls Infront of him Leo played shocked very well then he had to go back to playing gangsta
They came out years apart, and Marty was owed at least 6 Oscar's by this point. They would have snubbed him if they could, guys like him & Kubrick get fucked over by the Academy for films that, in all honesty, will not be watched a year after their release. Full Metal Jacket, Casino, 2001 & Goodfellas were all snubbed for much shittier films. They do not in fact pick a winner a every time.
Dufferent culture, different characters backgrounds, etc. All these contribute to the great diversity in movie making, even though both are essentially telling the same story.
No, Infernal Affairs is objectively better than The Departed not to mention that no remake will ever be as good as the original. Infernal Affairs has so many elements and THEMES unique to Hong Kong that make the film better and The Departed doesn't have anything unique to its city nor its country. Directing, pacing and that little action there is are better in Infernal Affairs. There's very little that's better in The Departed, mostly the writing but only occasionally. Both very good films in the end but Infernal Affairs is clearly superior, after all The Departed is the one who ripped off from it.
I like Infernal Affairs a lot more, because it also has the meaning of life theme in the movie. The music make people think of the good and bad side of life all at once. It like you know that how it is when you go into that line of work. The meaning of life them in the movie's storyline talks about happy, scary and frustration in that line of work. What happens to a person in the job and outside. When goes on too long, like 3 years another 3 years and other 3 year. The Departed just don't have that in the movie.
@@errwhattheflip u gotta be in east asian culture to fully understand the buddism philosophies of IA. It simply is just better in terms of conveying emotions to the audience and much more complicated in character's emotion development. If u wanna relax and watch a movie without thinking much, departed is the way to go
@@kjdunjg2929 Can’t really agree with that but hey you do you. The Departed was a more realistic movie that didn’t try forcing emotions down your throat while still providing some thought provoking themes relating to the nature of morality among other things
I enjoyed both films, but Internal Affairs is the best. One thing I admire from The Departed is Di Caprio's performance, but for the most part the other characters are far too shallow compared to the original series. Oh, I should also say I appreciate how The Departed incorporated back story from Internal Affairs 2, while TD is quicker passed it was actually condensing two films into one.
It's very hard for westerners, perhaps even the people who remake Infernal Affairs into The Departure, to truly understand the Infernal Affairs. That's why all the composure and depth are nowhere to be found in The Departure. For example just take a quick look on the Cantonese title of the movie, which is nothing close to "Infernal Affairs". It's called "mou gaan dou (無間道)", which should be a term that's never heard in the west. "Dou" means road, "Mou Gaan" is a buddhist term which means "the endless suffering without pause", it is derived from the term 無間地獄, which is another name of Avīci Naraka - The deepest hell. At the start of the movie there is a small extract of a Buddhist quote in case anybody don't know what 無間地獄 is, then the story begins in a temple, where the characters "endless roads" started. Therefore a lot of people looking it in a wrong way when watching this movie, they think Lau won at the end. The answer is the complete opposite, he stuck in the endless hell for not dying. Clearly The Departure doesn't get any of that, and it's just a normal western criminal movie I'm not saying subtler means better. I have nothing against movie having characters screaming and swearing to show that they are suffering, scared, or pissed. We have those kinds of movie too, but most of them are gangster movie, which was also a big thing once upon a time. For a "profession film" like Infernal Affairs, which features police, and we expect characters to act polite and keep composure. I don't know about American Police, but Hong Kong Police in the early 2000 are professional. But for the "real gangsters" in this movie, like Hon Sam, they still act relatively subtle but they aren't as polite as Chan and Lau.
"Therefore a lot of people looking it in a wrong way when watching this movie, they think Lau won at the end." I guarantee you, as someone who watched Infernal Affairs without knowing the nuances behind the original title, that it's very obvious Lau didn't win in the end. The final shot of him saluting at the funeral shows a man deeply remorseful and wishing he he took a different path in life. The movie makes it incredibly obvious that Lau is forever tainted. Infernal Affairs is a great film, probably better than Departed, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly a difficult to understand film or that the Departed loses all nuance and subtly.
Yeah Lau clearly lost in the end. His final line “I do” was far more meaningful than Matt Damon being shot in the head by Wahlberg. But then again we do have to consider the cultural differences across both films.
Is very hard for easterns to understand The Departed. It's focused is less on the characters relationships between one and another and more about their back stories and personalities. Less about buddhism and more about catholic guilt and less about hong Kong and more about the migrant experience of the Irish in the US.
I prefer the way the body crashes on the taxi in IA. Shock. Then the melodrama, which by modern standards may seem "cheesy" but during production in 2001, it was all the rage: Gladiator, LOTR.. all had their slow-motion, female vocal death scene. Why show the Martin Sheen falling through the air for 2 seconds - I don't think it adds anything - and reduced the shock value. I also felt the tone in The Departed was all over the place, I wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be serious or funny.
That's what stands out to me. It's way more sudden in IA. You feel the character's shock. It still surprises me on the rewatch. In the The Departed, you see it coming.
6 years late, but I disagree. I think seeing Queenan fall in slow motion gives you that “Holy shit. He’s dead” feeling. You’re watching one of the few hopes Billy has left fall to his death but he’s later forced to act like nothing happened just so he doesn’t blow his cover. Tho I saw The Departed and never watched Infernal Affairs, so maybe I’m biased as hell
The Departed is too deep into crime, that makes less drama than we expect, it's funny that the film win oscar for best Picture but Infernal Affairs didn't win even the best Foreign Language film :))
Both different kind of crime films and I like both. But if it's Internal Affairs vs The Departed, then Internal Affairs for me every time. It just feels much deeper with the internal struggle of both characters wanting to be good but forced into bad situations
They're both great films, with great lead actors. I prefer IA, though, because of Andy Lau's excellent performance and also the Asian setting is more interesting to me.
The Departed is far more realistic but IA emphasises the trauma of that moment. The Departed shows how Leo's character has to immediately supress any emotion to try and convince the other criminals that he made a mistake and is trustworthy. More focused on the dynamics and duality of the job than Internal Affairs, which is more focused on character depth.
I'm on two minds of this. On one hand, I like how in Infernal Affairs, Wong's death just comes out of the blue with no build up or anticipation whatsoever. In The Departed, the way they showed Costello's guys pushing Queenan around right before Billy leaves the building makes his eventual demise somewhat expected. It doesn't help that they had a shot of him falling right before he hits the ground. So in terms of shock and surprise for the audience, Infernal Affairs wins. But on the other hand, the slow motion montage following Wong's death is somewhat cheesy. I don't really mind the music, but the black and white clips of the two men during their "good times" does feel a bit soap opera-ish. The aftermath of Queenan's death in The Departed was cold and unfeeling, just like how Billy has to appear in order to maintain his identity of being just another one of Costello's goons. So tough choice, but overall, I think I'll go with Infernal Affairs on this simply for the mere shock factor of it all.
@@Irishman11850 Two different films for two different audiences. If Internal Affairs was remade for bollywood audience, for example, it would probably be different too. I'm kind of a racist when it comes to Chinese films because I don't like the vibe of it. I liked Jackie Chan, but growing up I slowly got detached with Chinese contents. I still don't like em.
Honestly, I think The departed wins simply because the death was in-line with the themes. Like you said, it's cold and swift. After that, there is hardly any time for rest and the action comes swiftly after. I think IA's scene is more emotional. The Departed's scene is more real
the cheesiness of this kind was kind of a staple of the cinema in the region back then, so if they were to remake this scene following the exact same assumptions, they would probably modify the runaway scene and adjust it to the current style of the "I'm shocked and in grief but I need to run away, still I need you to focus on my internal emotions and not on the external expressions". I think this is more a sign of times
When i first saw infernal affairs, the super intendent crashing onto the car shocked me and the death of Tony Leungs characters shocked me. I literally didnt see those deaths coming. In departed, i think having Matt damon and Leo roles reversed would have been better. Its really hard to see Leo as a gangster.
Good point. The reason why you didn't see that coming is because every American movie has the exact same script where the good guy wins and gets the girl at the end. Hong Kong directors believe in making memorable scripts that are unique. Also many people in The Departed were miscasted. The Departed is one of the only movies where I see several actors that look very out of place. Like when you see Matt Damons and Leo's roles, its very obvious that they shouldn't have been in those roles. Other people looked out of place in that movie as well. If you liked this movie, you should watch some other Hong Kong movies, they are amazing!
i love martin but infernal affairs was a brilliant piece, the meaning is much more complex than the departed. it focused more in the mental aspects of the two characters.
Infernal Affairs just nails that Hong Kong flick “good guy yay, bad guy boo.” Simplicity and then throws it into carnage like a Greek tragedy. The Departed is so much more unhinged with a lot more layering in characters, and a lot more gore, profanity and violence. It feels more like King Lear with dramatic moments and terrible deaths. So yeah, same story but execution is apples and oranges for me.
The difference is one was intended for western audiences and one was made for eastern audiences. If you find Internal Affairs more emotional and dramatic while The Departed was too fast and gritty, then you're more used to eastern films. If you find Infernal Affairs cheesy and soap-opera-ish while The Departed was realistic, then you're mored used to wester films. Simple.
Inferno Affairs is the better film. I had a chance to work with the writer of IA Felix Chong in Vancouver in 2017 & he was humble & said both films were equally good:)
Just by changing the end of the movie so the good ones end up "winning" instead of stick to the original version's one, shows once again how superior Asians films are.
*SPOILERS BELOW* | | | | Nobody 'wins' in The Departed. You're saying that just because of what happens between Dignam and Sullivan? Nah. Dignam's life is over at that point. Captain Ellerby survives, but certainly doesn't 'win'. And he's not even a major player. Hardly a win for the 'good guys'. That really is the whole point of the movie: everybody gets killed or completely screwed in the end.
Yeah that is total fetishizing bullshit. There are great Asian movies, there are great American movies. There are also great French, Russian, Indian, German etc movies. All of these countries also make shit movies. To say that Asian movies are superior is just wanking yourself off over how "cultured" you are for watching foreign language films.
Infernal affairs is a solid crime thriller, but you guys in the comments saying its better than the Departed are just delusional. Scorese completely fleshed out all the characters and expanded on all themes, Departed is better its simply not close. One of the best remakes of all time
for the departed, i think it would be better if we just saw the body fall in front of leo, rather than the prior shot of the body falling. one thing I liked though is seeing Leo's change in expression when the thugs came out
I’ve never watched Internal Affairs, but based off this scene. I think I prefer The Departed. It’s more gritty and realistic as opposed to the more cinematic feel of IA. I like how in Departed he doesn’t really have time to take in his death, there’s a mix of sadness, confusion and anger, but he has to quickly move on. I definitely have to watch IA, maybe once I see the whole movie I’ll like it more.
I personally prefer infernal affairs over the departed. The departed was just the typical Hollywood crap. Sex.. A lot of cussing, and violence. While Infernal affairs for me was more relatable, dark, has a mysterious vibe to it that keeps you guessing/wondering/interested, more emotional, overall more realistic, better scenes, storyline, and better characters/relationships, and overall was beautifully well done. Part 2, and 3 only compliments part 1. Just amazing overall. However, the departed was good, but it was just too Hollywood for me. And for whomever, im an American, born and raised in the states, just incase some ignorant fool thinks im favoring infernal affairs only because I must be a Chinese, or Asian. However, that could be reversed as well, but just saying.
I don't think it's fair to reduce The Departed to just sex, cussing and violence. There's one short sex scene, and the cussing and violence helps portray the raw, "salt of the earth" world of Boston and the American Irish. I think Infernal Affairs is better, but The Departed was made with respect, care and attention to detail too, even if it had flaws (mainly a silly triangle romance).
@@Tiger66261 that triangle romance was the only thing about the movie that I absolutely hated. Also the Billy-Queenan relationship was in my opinion a bit too shallow but then again I don't mind that too much. At least Billy didn't stand there in slow motion for 30 seconds with soprano women singing in the background when Queenan died. I mean seriously, I grew up watching Asian and in particular Indian films and while I must tell you some of them are of far superior quality than that of some of the shit Hollywood has produced in the recent years, I still prefer Scorsese's style of filmmaking. Raw, vulgar, no bullshit accurate portrayal of the society we live in with apt dialogues and reducing all that to just sex, cussing and violence sounds like something straight out of a middle-schooler's diary. People react to things in real life, people cry, people scream, people squeal, people beg. In no way was The Departed Scorsese's best work, I wouldn't even put it in his top 5. But it is definitely better than a film that uses slow mo soprano singing flashback sequences to seem sophisticated and 'mature'.
Leonardo is such a weird case. Many people think he is one of the best actors working today, above even the other best actors, and use him as THE example of great realistic acting, they say thinks like "Wow Aaron Paul really did some Leonardo level acting right there". Leo does very few movies too, he only has to do the ones he really wants to and everybody has him as their first pick for roles. But then I ALSO see many people who think he's not a very good actor at all, not only overated but just not very good, some say he can only play characters who are angry or crazy basically. When there are two polar opposite opinions like this it makes me doubt my own opinion. Is he a good actor or not?
TBH I don't know if it is cultural differences but I like Internal Affairs. But I think I'm kind of biased because for 1 I haven't seen The Departed before and 2 I like Andy Lau and Tony Leung Chiu Wai. Lol!
This was one of the best scenes of IA and when I saw it in the Departed I was sooo pissed, haha. It had none of the emotional weight it had in IA - I felt the surprise, the grief, the numbness, the feeling like you're a goner, your entire life is lost even though you are actually managing to survive physically. I much more preferred it to be shown from the subjective point of view. I don't dig the cheesiness - I think those flashbacks are awful - but it was kind of an aesthetic choice, popular at that time, I suppose. So I simply ignore it and focus on Tony's performance in that very scene which was superb
When I first saw The Departed, it was so hard to tell Leonardo Decaprio and Matt Daemon apart because they had the same haircut, and it also didn't help they both play their characters very similar.
very cool how much etc can relaly change a scene. inferna affairs has a different impact cause their connection felt like a father and son relationship. and now tony is all on his own on this missions
Guys, don't compare the two films. They have the same story but the themes are very different. Both films have put forward their theme perfectly and they're both very great films.
I think it's funny how much the preferences here divide people ... I start laughing when I hear the music form Internal Affairs because it felt out of place to me, while the cold thump and character reactions in The Departed makes me jump ... but other people tear up at the music in Internal Affairs and think it adds the right emotion ... it's a pretty excellent example of how art is subjective
Doesn't sound like you have a large experience with Asian cinema, strictly Western. So Wong's body just landing on the car did not shock you? You literally saw the American's body slowly floating down and then slam
TD version of this scene is kinda stupid... IA's took me by surprise and makes more sense. If someone you cared about died you would probably be in shock too. You may find it draggy but the mole in the mafia was really looking forward to getting out and he just lost his only chance at proving he was a mole
I just re-watched both on Netflix recently and I found the Cantonese dialogue in Infernal Affairs is just...lost in translation quite a bit (a big bit) which, i think, make it much harder for foreigners to fully enjoy. Some arent even translated. Anyway, I prefer IA not because it is original but I like how it is fast paced without dragging but same point made. In this scene, I dont think it is overly melo. In the original film, Wong and Chan has been working together for 10years and lets not forget from the day Chan was interviewed, Wong was already very impressed with him, and there are more scenes that show how Wong cares for Chan. You can say he is basically Chan‘s only hope. Idk I like the way they filmed this scene in HK version but I prefer Leo‘s acting in the same scene LOL
Kinda. Thats whats bad if you don't understand both languages fully and I guess thats how IA loses with foreign audiences cause they don't fully understand
In hindsight the departed is the first step towards hollywood is giving up on picturing honest emotions, and integrating emotions into the core of a narrative. The decade was dominated by marvel movies, that are totally shallow regarding emotions. And finally Ryan Reynolds Deadpool is actively undermining even the shallow kind of cliche emotions by undercutting every serious line with a self referencial joke. idk, maybe nine eleven numbed the u.s. privileged hollywood culture so much, it has forgotten how emotions even work.
For alk the people that likes the original: its a crime-drama not a melodrama . They are cops and criminals! why play a sad song and slow mo a scene for making it emotional in a CRIME movie !!!!
Ignorant and wrong. You clearly don't understand the theme of the movie and its type. Sure this is a crime movie (anyway why can't a crime movie be emotional), but is not Jackie Chan type movie with excellent fighting scene or the Johnnie To type. Infernal affairs was never an action or realistic movie. The theme is about people struggling in eternal hell. The disappointment and the sense of powerlessness in lives. That's why the movie name is infernal affair. The chinese movie title is actually a buddhist word 無間道, which meant eternal hell. So actually, it is more a religious film than a crime film. The film itself is meant to be emotional. That's why in infernal affairs, there is nearly no action and fighting scene, cause it is not what the movie is about. You can also see this message in the ending of the infernal affairs. Lau survived while Chan died a hero. Chan escaped the eternal hell while Lau have to bear his sin and guilt and lives. You pick the wrong movie if you don't wanna be emotional.
No. The GOAT would be the second Infernal Affairs movie. The first Infernal Affairs movie was okay but the second blows it out of the water. However, despite that The Departed is inferior to the first Infernal Affairs movie.
It seems i might be going against the grain of the comments section, but The Departed just edges it for me, only just. I think I prefer the hazy line The Departed draws between good and evil, where Infernal Affairs is slightly more straight forward, although it still does makes some effort to show that the bad character has some good in him and vice versa. Ialso just can'tget enough of the dialogue in Scorsese movies. Both wonderful movies though.
Infernal Affairs is way better than the Departed and its not even close. Especially if you watched Infernal Affairs before you watched The Departed. The Departed was miscasted. Several of the actors didn't fit the movie. Andy Lau, Tony Leung, Antony Tsang and the other Hong Kong actors also acted way better than the American actors. Some of the American actors acting were very exaggerated and didn't come off as natural. Hong Kong actors like Tony Leung are much more subtle and can communicate emotions just with their eyes instead of being so animated. Also Hong Kong movies are better than American movies in general given that they don't follow the stereotypically American script that is the exact same script for dang near every movie. American movies, at the beginning of the movie, you already know the end of it. The good guy is going to win, he's going to get the girl at the end and exchange a kiss and then everyone lives happily ever after. Hong Kong movies, will straight up kill the main character of the movie and wont give a dam* lol. And the bad guys actually win in many of the movies. The Infernal Affairs is a masterpiece in suspense, character development, plot twist and great acting by everyone involved.
gotta remember.. hk films have small ass budgets.. and they’re made in short short time spans. infernal is impressive asf for what limits it had.. and it proves it cause there was a western adaptation with a massive budget lol
I remember watching The Departed after Internal Affairs and I was really looking forward to this scene. Shit they pretty much blew it in The Departed! Their is no emotion or anything!
Leonardo DiCaprio has always been superb, but that recovery feels more "Catch me if you can" than some undercover cop who just lost his handler. Putting into context, great scene though.
Saw _Infernal Affairs_ first, but prefer _The Departed._ Although it's perhaps my Scorsese bias in me, though I like Leung's more subdued take on the character over DiCaprio's more explosive one.
I was fortunate enough to have seen Infernal Affairs in Asia when it came out. Similar to Hong Kong Noir fims of decade + prior with less sappiness. I have seen the Departed with other homage/ copycat films of IA and the orignal is better. (And no, the Depated is not on par with other Scorsese films like the Goodfellas.)
I'm an Asian, no not an Asian-American, an Asian born and bred in Asia. IA is more realistic to me, The Departed seemed too fake to me with their constant shouting and cursing and acting. Know what's the difference is? Culture. Westerners will probably find The Departed more realistic because they can relate to it more. An Asian like myself? Infernal Affairs all day.
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To be clear: I did not make the video to prove one version is superior to the other in any way. I made this for a guest lecture I gave on Hong Kong cinema in order to show students that cultural context can alter the way we make/consume/judge movies.
Thanks for making this video! It was super helpful for me as I used it as a reference in my essay for school. The essay was similar to your lecture, about how cultural context can affect different types of cinema. Without your video it would've been harder for me to prove my point, so thanks again!
No problem, glad I could help!
ur a movie snub not kool
Can I ask what was the conclusion of your lecture? I have my opinion but I'd like to hear yours first (background: Westernised Chinese man who loves both HK and American films)
Tony Leung needed no dialogue and yet said absolutely everything.
This showed a big difference in term of directing.
In The Departed, all I see that Leo acted like a gambler who lost a big bet.
In Infernal, we see emotional attachment between 2 characters. And Tong Leung's eye was a gem.
@Thiên Phúc Huỳnh What? The acting in both is pretty good, I'd say the Departed is nearly objectively better, the campy flashback scene in the original is just so bad hahaha.
@thienphuchuynh8378 no i disagree... its almost just as good. tony does slightly better however the way leo switches back and forth from shocked to unfazed when costellos man show up is seamless and arguably makes the scene better.
@thienphuchuynh8378no way you can even compare both movies the departed is on a whole different level then infernal affairs that other movie is way to cheesy
@@shaikohthe scene itself was kinda bad but Leung saved it with his eyes, his reaction is the only highlight. The music itself was a bit much and Asian films in general need to chill out with that and let the scene ride on its own weight. The Departed is also too much in it's own way with excessive cussing and immediately into the action, almost zero time to actually give the scene weight. Both scene were pretty meh and very unnatural for what they were wanting to show.
Leo didn't act like that wtf lol Leo's acting is spot on for someone whose undercover who just saw his captain alive 30 seconds ago and then bam his dead body falls Infront of him Leo played shocked very well then he had to go back to playing gangsta
And you can see the moment that Tony Leung's eyes were also acting
What do you mean?
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@@tk7806 he conveys his character’s emotions without having to speak. Acting through expression.
@@arnoldcheng9979 oh i see, thank you for the clarification
You're watching the same scene and yet they are so different from each other. One is very intense while the other is very meaningful.
Nah, chingchong just cringe
If the Departed wins Best Picture, Infernal Affairs at least deserves a nomination for Best Foreign Film
They came out years apart, and Marty was owed at least 6 Oscar's by this point. They would have snubbed him if they could, guys like him & Kubrick get fucked over by the Academy for films that, in all honesty, will not be watched a year after their release. Full Metal Jacket, Casino, 2001 & Goodfellas were all snubbed for much shittier films. They do not in fact pick a winner a every time.
Tony Leung, his eyes tell everything
Dufferent culture, different characters backgrounds, etc. All these contribute to the great diversity in movie making, even though both are essentially telling the same story.
I think Infernal Affairs is better, it's very impressive.
No, Infernal Affairs is objectively better than The Departed not to mention that no remake will ever be as good as the original. Infernal Affairs has so many elements and THEMES unique to Hong Kong that make the film better and The Departed doesn't have anything unique to its city nor its country.
Directing, pacing and that little action there is are better in Infernal Affairs. There's very little that's better in The Departed, mostly the writing but only occasionally. Both very good films in the end but Infernal Affairs is clearly superior, after all The Departed is the one who ripped off from it.
I think so
Ending of Infernal Affairs is a way much better than that of Departed.
Excellent true ending! Hats off...
Fuzzy Dunlop No remake will ever be good as the original? HELLO? THE THING? gtfo
@Eveline DaVuck The Departed copied like 90% of the film. How it is better?
Infernal Affairs - every time!
I like Infernal Affairs a lot more, because it also has the meaning of life theme in the movie. The music make people think of the good and bad side of life all at once. It like you know that how it is when you go into that line of work. The meaning of life them in the movie's storyline talks about happy, scary and frustration in that line of work. What happens to a person in the job and outside. When goes on too long, like 3 years another 3 years and other 3 year. The Departed just don't have that in the movie.
@@stevenrodriguez9371 kid go back to your Hollywood movies The Departed don’t even come close to IA
@@stevenrodriguez9371 nope departed was better
@@MillennialZ666 Nah, I actually disagree. IA is good, but it has issues that I think The Departed fixes
@@errwhattheflip u gotta be in east asian culture to fully understand the buddism philosophies of IA. It simply is just better in terms of conveying emotions to the audience and much more complicated in character's emotion development.
If u wanna relax and watch a movie without thinking much, departed is the way to go
@@kjdunjg2929 Can’t really agree with that but hey you do you. The Departed was a more realistic movie that didn’t try forcing emotions down your throat while still providing some thought provoking themes relating to the nature of morality among other things
Andy Lau, Tony Leung, Anthony Wong, Eric Tsang. Legend 🙌
The True Legend is Jack Nicholson and Leo Dicaprio
I enjoyed both films, but Internal Affairs is the best. One thing I admire from The Departed is Di Caprio's performance, but for the most part the other characters are far too shallow compared to the original series. Oh, I should also say I appreciate how The Departed incorporated back story from Internal Affairs 2, while TD is quicker passed it was actually condensing two films into one.
Bla bla bla
It's been a while since I watched TD; what parts of IA2 did it incorporate?
Plisskenetic SD want some fries with that salt buddy
dicaprio gave a great performance. the only flaw was it being based on an almost completely whiny character.
It's funny but I do prefer Eric Tsang's performance than Jack Nicholson 😂
i choose infernal affairs, it's soo much better !
i dont have to watch it on internet, i allready got it on dvd.
Departed is like a cheese made from spoiled milk
@@At0mHeart The spoiled milk being the spoiled brat Matt Damon
@@At0mHeart why tf y’all hatin
@@trent2kg813 im not hating im just correcting these tasteless lackwits
It's very hard for westerners, perhaps even the people who remake Infernal Affairs into The Departure, to truly understand the Infernal Affairs. That's why all the composure and depth are nowhere to be found in The Departure. For example just take a quick look on the Cantonese title of the movie, which is nothing close to "Infernal Affairs". It's called "mou gaan dou (無間道)", which should be a term that's never heard in the west.
"Dou" means road, "Mou Gaan" is a buddhist term which means "the endless suffering without pause", it is derived from the term 無間地獄, which is another name of Avīci Naraka - The deepest hell. At the start of the movie there is a small extract of a Buddhist quote in case anybody don't know what 無間地獄 is, then the story begins in a temple, where the characters "endless roads" started. Therefore a lot of people looking it in a wrong way when watching this movie, they think Lau won at the end. The answer is the complete opposite, he stuck in the endless hell for not dying. Clearly The Departure doesn't get any of that, and it's just a normal western criminal movie
I'm not saying subtler means better. I have nothing against movie having characters screaming and swearing to show that they are suffering, scared, or pissed. We have those kinds of movie too, but most of them are gangster movie, which was also a big thing once upon a time. For a "profession film" like Infernal Affairs, which features police, and we expect characters to act polite and keep composure. I don't know about American Police, but Hong Kong Police in the early 2000 are professional. But for the "real gangsters" in this movie, like Hon Sam, they still act relatively subtle but they aren't as polite as Chan and Lau.
"Therefore a lot of people looking it in a wrong way when watching this movie, they think Lau won at the end."
I guarantee you, as someone who watched Infernal Affairs without knowing the nuances behind the original title, that it's very obvious Lau didn't win in the end. The final shot of him saluting at the funeral shows a man deeply remorseful and wishing he he took a different path in life. The movie makes it incredibly obvious that Lau is forever tainted.
Infernal Affairs is a great film, probably better than Departed, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly a difficult to understand film or that the Departed loses all nuance and subtly.
Yeah Lau clearly lost in the end. His final line “I do” was far more meaningful than Matt Damon being shot in the head by Wahlberg. But then again we do have to consider the cultural differences across both films.
The third installment of mou gaan dou shows your point more explicitly.
Is very hard for easterns to understand The Departed. It's focused is less on the characters relationships between one and another and more about their back stories and personalities. Less about buddhism and more about catholic guilt and less about hong Kong and more about the migrant experience of the Irish in the US.
Alright you made some great points but to call the movie Marty finally got an Oscar for "normal" is a sin.
I prefer the way the body crashes on the taxi in IA. Shock. Then the melodrama, which by modern standards may seem "cheesy" but during production in 2001, it was all the rage: Gladiator, LOTR.. all had their slow-motion, female vocal death scene.
Why show the Martin Sheen falling through the air for 2 seconds - I don't think it adds anything - and reduced the shock value. I also felt the tone in The Departed was all over the place, I wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be serious or funny.
That's what stands out to me. It's way more sudden in IA. You feel the character's shock. It still surprises me on the rewatch. In the The Departed, you see it coming.
"All over the place" -- that is a perfect word to describe The Departed!
6 years late, but I disagree. I think seeing Queenan fall in slow motion gives you that “Holy shit. He’s dead” feeling. You’re watching one of the few hopes Billy has left fall to his death but he’s later forced to act like nothing happened just so he doesn’t blow his cover. Tho I saw The Departed and never watched Infernal Affairs, so maybe I’m biased as hell
The Departed is too deep into crime, that makes less drama than we expect, it's funny that the film win oscar for best Picture but Infernal Affairs didn't win even the best Foreign Language film :))
There were probably other foreign films that were better than. Has nothing to do with which of the two was better.
You forgot city of god came in 2002 and its better than internal affairs
Both different kind of crime films and I like both. But if it's Internal Affairs vs The Departed, then Internal Affairs for me every time. It just feels much deeper with the internal struggle of both characters wanting to be good but forced into bad situations
Infernal Affairs won the Golden Horse Award for Best Picture back in 2003. That award ceremony is the Asian equivalent of the Oscars.
Nguyen Quang Huy infernal affairs still features in the list of the best movie of the world
They're both great films, with great lead actors. I prefer IA, though, because of Andy Lau's excellent performance and also the Asian setting is more interesting to me.
I was shocked and shocked again, and again, when Infernal Affairs unfolded before my eyes. What a show! SPL was a close second.
The Departed is far more realistic but IA emphasises the trauma of that moment. The Departed shows how Leo's character has to immediately supress any emotion to try and convince the other criminals that he made a mistake and is trustworthy. More focused on the dynamics and duality of the job than Internal Affairs, which is more focused on character depth.
Both equally realistic. Departed focused on portraying the external while IA focused on the internal trauma. but the shock was there in both.
Well said, very true.
The only difference is that The Departed is fast-paced while IA fleshes out every main characters in the movie
I'm on two minds of this. On one hand, I like how in Infernal Affairs, Wong's death just comes out of the blue with no build up or anticipation whatsoever. In The Departed, the way they showed Costello's guys pushing Queenan around right before Billy leaves the building makes his eventual demise somewhat expected. It doesn't help that they had a shot of him falling right before he hits the ground. So in terms of shock and surprise for the audience, Infernal Affairs wins. But on the other hand, the slow motion montage following Wong's death is somewhat cheesy. I don't really mind the music, but the black and white clips of the two men during their "good times" does feel a bit soap opera-ish. The aftermath of Queenan's death in The Departed was cold and unfeeling, just like how Billy has to appear in order to maintain his identity of being just another one of Costello's goons. So tough choice, but overall, I think I'll go with Infernal Affairs on this simply for the mere shock factor of it all.
I prefer the departed but your right this scene is better
@@Irishman11850 Two different films for two different audiences. If Internal Affairs was remade for bollywood audience, for example, it would probably be different too.
I'm kind of a racist when it comes to Chinese films because I don't like the vibe of it. I liked Jackie Chan, but growing up I slowly got detached with Chinese contents. I still don't like em.
Honestly, I think The departed wins simply because the death was in-line with the themes. Like you said, it's cold and swift. After that, there is hardly any time for rest and the action comes swiftly after. I think IA's scene is more emotional. The Departed's scene is more real
the cheesiness of this kind was kind of a staple of the cinema in the region back then, so if they were to remake this scene following the exact same assumptions, they would probably modify the runaway scene and adjust it to the current style of the "I'm shocked and in grief but I need to run away, still I need you to focus on my internal emotions and not on the external expressions". I think this is more a sign of times
In the "Great wall", Matt and Andy will be in the same movie fighting on the same side against monsters!
When i first saw infernal affairs, the super intendent crashing onto the car shocked me and the death of Tony Leungs characters shocked me. I literally didnt see those deaths coming.
In departed, i think having Matt damon and Leo roles reversed would have been better. Its really hard to see Leo as a gangster.
Wow, you're absolutely spot on with that one. That's a huge miscast that they didn't swap their roles.
And it's really hard to see Damon as gangster/police rat. He always plays the good guy in everything.
Good point. The reason why you didn't see that coming is because every American movie has the exact same script where the good guy wins and gets the girl at the end. Hong Kong directors believe in making memorable scripts that are unique. Also many people in The Departed were miscasted. The Departed is one of the only movies where I see several actors that look very out of place. Like when you see Matt Damons and Leo's roles, its very obvious that they shouldn't have been in those roles. Other people looked out of place in that movie as well. If you liked this movie, you should watch some other Hong Kong movies, they are amazing!
i love martin but infernal affairs was a brilliant piece, the meaning is much more complex than the departed. it focused more in the mental aspects of the two characters.
Infernal Affairs just nails that Hong Kong flick “good guy yay, bad guy boo.” Simplicity and then throws it into carnage like a Greek tragedy. The Departed is so much more unhinged with a lot more layering in characters, and a lot more gore, profanity and violence. It feels more like King Lear with dramatic moments and terrible deaths. So yeah, same story but execution is apples and oranges for me.
The difference is one was intended for western audiences and one was made for eastern audiences.
If you find Internal Affairs more emotional and dramatic while The Departed was too fast and gritty, then you're more used to eastern films. If you find Infernal Affairs cheesy and soap-opera-ish while The Departed was realistic, then you're mored used to wester films. Simple.
The departed is my favorite movie. Infernal affairs was pretty bad ass too.
Stupid
The departed is my dad's favorite movie
When the B grade kid copies the A grade kid and got a F instead.
Internal affairs had so much soul. Even with an all star cast, The Departed couldn’t deliver as good as IA.
The Departed had a darker and probably more nihilistic version of the events of Infernal Affairs.
Inferno Affairs is the better film. I had a chance to work with the writer of IA Felix Chong in Vancouver in 2017 & he was humble & said both films were equally good:)
It's not a better movie. Ridiculous
Hong Kong makes f-ing classics this "Exiled" and "Full Time Killer" I strongly suggest these masterpieces.
Just by changing the end of the movie so the good ones end up "winning" instead of stick to the original version's one, shows once again how superior Asians films are.
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Nobody 'wins' in The Departed. You're saying that just because of what happens between Dignam and Sullivan? Nah. Dignam's life is over at that point. Captain Ellerby survives, but certainly doesn't 'win'. And he's not even a major player. Hardly a win for the 'good guys'. That really is the whole point of the movie: everybody gets killed or completely screwed in the end.
Alexander Asian films aren’t superior
Yeah that is total fetishizing bullshit. There are great Asian movies, there are great American movies. There are also great French, Russian, Indian, German etc movies. All of these countries also make shit movies. To say that Asian movies are superior is just wanking yourself off over how "cultured" you are for watching foreign language films.
Asian films are cringe, no way in hell can they stand with Hollywood masterpieces, except for a few like kurosawa.
@@dawsondjodvorj2408 lol what asian films have u watched
I should also state the fact that the way Tony leung says lines with just his eyes is quite similar to Alain Delon.
Infernal affairs is a solid crime thriller, but you guys in the comments saying its better than the Departed are just delusional. Scorese completely fleshed out all the characters and expanded on all themes, Departed is better its simply not close. One of the best remakes of all time
for the departed, i think it would be better if we just saw the body fall in front of leo, rather than the prior shot of the body falling. one thing I liked though is seeing Leo's change in expression when the thugs came out
I’ve never watched Internal Affairs, but based off this scene. I think I prefer The Departed. It’s more gritty and realistic as opposed to the more cinematic feel of IA. I like how in Departed he doesn’t really have time to take in his death, there’s a mix of sadness, confusion and anger, but he has to quickly move on. I definitely have to watch IA, maybe once I see the whole movie I’ll like it more.
IA does a good job of highlighting each characters internal conflicts
Definitely worth a watch
I personally prefer infernal affairs over the departed. The departed was just the typical Hollywood crap. Sex.. A lot of cussing, and violence. While Infernal affairs for me was more relatable, dark, has a mysterious vibe to it that keeps you guessing/wondering/interested, more emotional, overall more realistic, better scenes, storyline, and better characters/relationships, and overall was beautifully well done. Part 2, and 3 only compliments part 1. Just amazing overall. However, the departed was good, but it was just too Hollywood for me. And for whomever, im an American, born and raised in the states, just incase some ignorant fool thinks im favoring infernal affairs only because I must be a Chinese, or Asian. However, that could be reversed as well, but just saying.
I don't think it's fair to reduce The Departed to just sex, cussing and violence. There's one short sex scene, and the cussing and violence helps portray the raw, "salt of the earth" world of Boston and the American Irish. I think Infernal Affairs is better, but The Departed was made with respect, care and attention to detail too, even if it had flaws (mainly a silly triangle romance).
Dumb fucking weeb 😂😂
@@Tiger66261 that triangle romance was the only thing about the movie that I absolutely hated. Also the Billy-Queenan relationship was in my opinion a bit too shallow but then again I don't mind that too much. At least Billy didn't stand there in slow motion for 30 seconds with soprano women singing in the background when Queenan died. I mean seriously, I grew up watching Asian and in particular Indian films and while I must tell you some of them are of far superior quality than that of some of the shit Hollywood has produced in the recent years, I still prefer Scorsese's style of filmmaking. Raw, vulgar, no bullshit accurate portrayal of the society we live in with apt dialogues and reducing all that to just sex, cussing and violence sounds like something straight out of a middle-schooler's diary. People react to things in real life, people cry, people scream, people squeal, people beg. In no way was The Departed Scorsese's best work, I wouldn't even put it in his top 5. But it is definitely better than a film that uses slow mo soprano singing flashback sequences to seem sophisticated and 'mature'.
Tony Leung is a better actor than Leonardo
That’s not really saying much
Lmao
Leonardo is such a weird case. Many people think he is one of the best actors working today, above even the other best actors, and use him as THE example of great realistic acting, they say thinks like "Wow Aaron Paul really did some Leonardo level acting right there". Leo does very few movies too, he only has to do the ones he really wants to and everybody has him as their first pick for roles. But then I ALSO see many people who think he's not a very good actor at all, not only overated but just not very good, some say he can only play characters who are angry or crazy basically. When there are two polar opposite opinions like this it makes me doubt my own opinion. Is he a good actor or not?
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@@LeonLindProductionsyes you’re just stupid
Infernal Affairs y sin pestañar, así de buena es esa escena de la original !!!
Saludos.
Bueno si te gustan los culebrones, en cuanto a factura tecnica y contenido es tu pelicula
The original is alway the best.
TBH I don't know if it is cultural differences but I like Internal Affairs. But I think I'm kind of biased because for 1 I haven't seen The Departed before and 2 I like Andy Lau and Tony Leung Chiu Wai. Lol!
This was one of the best scenes of IA and when I saw it in the Departed I was sooo pissed, haha. It had none of the emotional weight it had in IA - I felt the surprise, the grief, the numbness, the feeling like you're a goner, your entire life is lost even though you are actually managing to survive physically. I much more preferred it to be shown from the subjective point of view. I don't dig the cheesiness - I think those flashbacks are awful - but it was kind of an aesthetic choice, popular at that time, I suppose. So I simply ignore it and focus on Tony's performance in that very scene which was superb
I just curious how much F word did they used in that film( The Departed )
Yup totally unnecessary.. that was cringe
@@recca7 that's how people talk in real life that's more necessary and by far less cringe than slow motion with "sad" music.
Both are great movies..
When I first saw The Departed, it was so hard to tell Leonardo Decaprio and Matt Daemon apart because they had the same haircut, and it also didn't help they both play their characters very similar.
In the Departed scene, the policemen on the car shouting is so annoying
policemen is plural and we don't use "is" for "they"
@@tareklegrand7747 A rogue grammar nazi 😂😂😂
Damn, it's just a bunch of adjectives aptly attached to well-chosen scenes of a movie and its remake, but it taught me so much!
0:57 u see that Leo changes his face instantly when gang members come...
very cool how much etc can relaly change a scene. inferna affairs has a different impact cause their connection felt like a father and son relationship. and now tony is all on his own on this missions
Not only that but at that very moment, he lost the only person in the world who could vouch he's an undercover cop and give him back a normal life.
There is one more turkish movie series " inside", based on these films
Guys, don't compare the two films. They have the same story but the themes are very different. Both films have put forward their theme perfectly and they're both very great films.
Tony Leung ✊
I prefer IA over the departed because IA feels like a cinema more similar to the controlled and cold neo-noir cinema of Jean Pierre Melville.
I think it's funny how much the preferences here divide people ... I start laughing when I hear the music form Internal Affairs because it felt out of place to me, while the cold thump and character reactions in The Departed makes me jump ... but other people tear up at the music in Internal Affairs and think it adds the right emotion ... it's a pretty excellent example of how art is subjective
Doesn't sound like you have a large experience with Asian cinema, strictly Western. So Wong's body just landing on the car did not shock you? You literally saw the American's body slowly floating down and then slam
Maybe you watch the whole Internal Affairs movie and you will feel that emotion
Infernal Affairs super movie!
Scorsese is master
TD version of this scene is kinda stupid... IA's took me by surprise and makes more sense. If someone you cared about died you would probably be in shock too. You may find it draggy but the mole in the mafia was really looking forward to getting out and he just lost his only chance at proving he was a mole
No feeling relationship from Departed like Infernal
2002-2005.
I just re-watched both on Netflix recently and I found the Cantonese dialogue in Infernal Affairs is just...lost in translation quite a bit (a big bit) which, i think, make it much harder for foreigners to fully enjoy. Some arent even translated.
Anyway, I prefer IA not because it is original but I like how it is fast paced without dragging but same point made.
In this scene, I dont think it is overly melo. In the original film, Wong and Chan has been working together for 10years and lets not forget from the day Chan was interviewed, Wong was already very impressed with him, and there are more scenes that show how Wong cares for Chan. You can say he is basically Chan‘s only hope. Idk I like the way they filmed this scene in HK version but I prefer Leo‘s acting in the same scene LOL
Kinda. Thats whats bad if you don't understand both languages fully and I guess thats how IA loses with foreign audiences cause they don't fully understand
i agree, the english subtitles left much to be desired. i feel like the Buddhist themes are also lost on western audiences.
If only he had the 10 rings
I love both versions but this is overload for my brain
It's a shame Infernal Affairs didn't won an Oscar whereas The Departed have
Infernal Affairs was such a better made movie than The Departed. It has more depth, they broke it into three parts for this movie.
The movies even though the same they are very different
Departed any day
Matt's character is not as good as Andy Lau. Andy's character has greater struggle between whether to be good or evil.
Infernal Affairs
The Departed characters were too shallow and not really developed. Infernal Affairs is the best. Its Original.
Bayaraa Ganzorig NAH!
Dumb bitch
@@stevenrodriguez9371 yes, you are
Its not just original, it is the original
Flashback are common in Asian movies imo
I like Hong Kong version better
The Departed is missing something
@khalood zizo go easy on them they can't see much with their small eyes
In hindsight the departed is the first step towards hollywood is giving up on picturing honest emotions, and integrating emotions into the core of a narrative. The decade was dominated by marvel movies, that are totally shallow regarding emotions. And finally Ryan Reynolds Deadpool is actively undermining even the shallow kind of cliche emotions by undercutting every serious line with a self referencial joke. idk, maybe nine eleven numbed the u.s. privileged hollywood culture so much, it has forgotten how emotions even work.
Both are 💎
For alk the people that likes the original: its a crime-drama not a melodrama . They are cops and criminals! why play a sad song and slow mo a scene for making it emotional in a CRIME movie !!!!
Ignorant and wrong. You clearly don't understand the theme of the movie and its type. Sure this is a crime movie (anyway why can't a crime movie be emotional), but is not Jackie Chan type movie with excellent fighting scene or the Johnnie To type. Infernal affairs was never an action or realistic movie. The theme is about people struggling in eternal hell. The disappointment and the sense of powerlessness
in lives. That's why the movie name is infernal affair. The chinese movie title is actually a buddhist word 無間道, which meant eternal hell. So actually, it is more a religious film than a crime film. The film itself is meant to be emotional. That's why in infernal affairs, there is nearly no action and fighting scene, cause it is not what the movie is about. You can also see this message in the ending of the infernal affairs. Lau survived while Chan died a hero. Chan escaped the eternal hell while Lau have to bear his sin and guilt and lives. You pick the wrong movie if you don't wanna be emotional.
@@henryyeung1729 you didn't even talk about slow motion 😂
Everyone who said that the original movie is cheesy and cringe must say the same about the lord of the ring trilogy cause it have the same build up
Lord of the ring was boring
Goat of HK movie
No. The GOAT would be the second Infernal Affairs movie. The first Infernal Affairs movie was okay but the second blows it out of the water. However, despite that The Departed is inferior to the first Infernal Affairs movie.
Infernal affairs is a much better film.
It seems i might be going against the grain of the comments section, but The Departed just edges it for me, only just. I think I prefer the hazy line The Departed draws between good and evil, where Infernal Affairs is slightly more straight forward, although it still does makes some effort to show that the bad character has some good in him and vice versa. Ialso just can'tget enough of the dialogue in Scorsese movies. Both wonderful movies though.
You need to watch IA as a trilogy man.
Infernal Affairs is way better than the Departed and its not even close. Especially if you watched Infernal Affairs before you watched The Departed. The Departed was miscasted. Several of the actors didn't fit the movie. Andy Lau, Tony Leung, Antony Tsang and the other Hong Kong actors also acted way better than the American actors. Some of the American actors acting were very exaggerated and didn't come off as natural. Hong Kong actors like Tony Leung are much more subtle and can communicate emotions just with their eyes instead of being so animated. Also Hong Kong movies are better than American movies in general given that they don't follow the stereotypically American script that is the exact same script for dang near every movie. American movies, at the beginning of the movie, you already know the end of it. The good guy is going to win, he's going to get the girl at the end and exchange a kiss and then everyone lives happily ever after. Hong Kong movies, will straight up kill the main character of the movie and wont give a dam* lol. And the bad guys actually win in many of the movies. The Infernal Affairs is a masterpiece in suspense, character development, plot twist and great acting by everyone involved.
I suppose IA is the better screenplay, but there’s no way you can argue that Scorcese is the better director, and The Departed was better directed.
gotta remember.. hk films have small ass budgets.. and they’re made in short short time spans. infernal is impressive asf for what limits it had.. and it proves it cause there was a western adaptation with a massive budget lol
@@npcimknot958 what is that have to do with slow motion ?
I remember watching The Departed after Internal Affairs and I was really looking forward to this scene. Shit they pretty much blew it in The Departed! Their is no emotion or anything!
Who is the director? He can't even copy homework
Martin scorcesse
当然是无间道，因为他是原版。但美国版更真实和震撼。香港是一个小地方，他所有的电影给人小气的感觉，香港总共600多万人，600万的精英，怎么也比不上美国3亿人的精英，香港电影剧本相对来说也有些俗套，特别是当你长大了，你去看从前的香港电影和美国电影，美国电影依然好看，香港电影就俗套小气了，但就说演技的话，香港这些资深演员演技都不比好莱坞演员差。香港能凭这么小的地方，发展出成龙等功夫电影风靡全球，已经很难能可贵了，除了好莱坞，也就香港到达过这种高度。
Infernal affairs is much better
Leonardo DiCaprio has always been superb, but that recovery feels more "Catch me if you can" than some undercover cop who just lost his handler.
Putting into context, great scene though.
Saw _Infernal Affairs_ first, but prefer _The Departed._ Although it's perhaps my Scorsese bias in me, though I like Leung's more subdued take on the character over DiCaprio's more explosive one.
Copying is now called adaptation.
Infernal Affairs is much much better.
I was fortunate enough to have seen Infernal Affairs in Asia when it came out. Similar to Hong Kong Noir fims of decade + prior with less sappiness. I have seen the Departed with other homage/ copycat films of IA and the orignal is better. (And no, the Depated is not on par with other Scorsese films like the Goodfellas.)
The slow motion, sad music, and the flashbacks don't really cut it in my opinion.
Sorry Leo, Tony's just better. Leo's a great actor too in his own right.
Original always the best
Tarantino should have made this movie .he respects asian culture
This has to be sarcastic
Tony Leung scores over here…,though Leonardo is also grt actor
I don't want to be that guy but IA is so much better.
I'm an Asian, no not an Asian-American, an Asian born and bred in Asia. IA is more realistic to me, The Departed seemed too fake to me with their constant shouting and cursing and acting. Know what's the difference is? Culture. Westerners will probably find The Departed more realistic because they can relate to it more. An Asian like myself? Infernal Affairs all day.
I Suppose that Slow Motion happens alot in Asia maybe that has something to do with your culture 🤔
@@tareklegrand7747 Middle East is also in Asia, which fucking part are you talking about nigga