Highly unlikely. When he's brought up by Alec Baldwins character, he's described as "muscle". So he's without a doubt killed people before. Probably not as many as Fitzy or Mr French, but still a murderer. And like the previous comment said, he just that day had a hand in Queenan's death. He didnt tell anyone because he knew at that point Billy had the inside track on busting Costello. So how would Billy's death help a dying Delahunt? It wouldn't. He just took a fatal bullet for Frank for no reason. Also during Billy and Frank's convo in the restaurant, Billy brings up the scenario that one of his guys will eventually kill him, because they are disgruntled; since Frank doesnt pay much etc. Well even though Delahunt doesnt kill Frank, its clear that he was disgruntled and probably wanted to see him eventually get arrested. Having Billy killed would've put an end to that.
A comment in another video goes against this comment. About billy being a rat and Costello trying to kill him. I think this whole movie is about saving billy. His final task, clear his name (family) from the streets. He’s the last one, no more family apart from his practically dead mother.
The scene kept in the movie gives the impression he was a cop. But looking at the full scene it is pretty obvious he wasn't a cop. He was a confused soul. A good man among bad people.
I think the cops used Delahunt and reported that he was one of their own to make Frank stop looking for a rat and open himself up to more vulnerable attack, which is what Frank assumes in the movie itself. I think it's far more likely Delahunt wasn't a cop, just a not as bad mobster with enough principles not to have Billy killed as his last act on the earth. As an Irish Catholic, you'd assume Delahunt would want to use his last moments to interview well with the big man upstairs, instead of doing something cruel and unusual.
@@sumcallmejesus Well, of course. But Frank didn't want him being a rat getting out to his men, obviously, as it would be viewed as beyond despicable and dirty, and he'd lose their loyalty and have an even higher risk of one of them bumping him off out of principle and anger for the betrayal. So he had to keep an eye out for rats in his organization not just because they threatened the money he could bring in, but also because he had his own big secret to keep. If an undercover in his outfit found out he was a rat, the cops would find out and it wouldn't be long before the secret was blown, putting Frank in a vulnerable position. The way he had it set up at the time of the film, nobody knew he was dirty and his relationship with the FBI let him feed some smaller fish to them to keep himself on top. But once that secret becomes common knowledge, it's all over.
Left purposely ambiguous, the report says he worked for Boston pd so its possible state police and fbi was unaware of it because they weren't coordinating with them.
@MartinTraXAA He was a cop. In the original movie, (Infernal Affairs) Chan (Billy's counterpart) was an undercover cop for 10 years. Remember, Costello planted another rat in the police department who never exposed Sullivan when He knew He was also a rat. Delahunt was following the same loyalty
@@D93-w5q "Internal Affairs" is irrelevant. The Departed is an adaptation, plenty of details get changed, its not a 1 to 1 translation. It is neither confirmed nor denied within the confines of the movie that Delahunt was a cop.
@@el34glo59 ok here we go again, WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW IF HE WAS A COP OR NOT, IN BOTH CASES HE WOULD'VE REMAINED SILENT WHEN QUEENAN WAS THROWN. THERE ARE 2 MAIN POINTS: ONE, HE WAS A FRICKING UNDERCOVER EITHER UNDER DIGNAM AS STATIE OR BOSTON PD. THE OTHER POINT IS HE NEVER MURDERED AND NEVER WANTED TO MURDER, HE JUST DIDN'T WANTED COSTIGAN KILLED. This is what i personally think
@@ashalibrahim2362 I disagree. I think he was making it clear that he knew he was a cop and didn't say anything because he also was one. Its my opinion. Happy now
@iman jones The same way Costigan definitely wouldn't attempt some elaborate citizen's arrest instead of delivering the evidence to Internal Affairs (heh) or Ellerby, investigators definitely wouldn't believe Sullivan's story with a forensic mess at the building central to a conspiracy
@@el34glo59 he didn't wanted to hear "because you're a good person" he just wanted him to make sure he doesn't end up in a dumpster like other he himself dumped. He first tells Billy the same because he knows Billy is the only one who'll listen to him seriously. Billy also responds with "it won't matter where you get dumped after your death". He knows Billy is his only chance and he tries to pull "I just saved your life by not telling others and just to repay this debt you owe me now please dont let me get dumped like others." That's it.
That's not the only time in the movie that that line (The Departed) is used; it's in some eulogy or prayer or something at a cop's funeral (not sure which one, though) and I think in a card Frank sends to a dead cop's family or to his funeral, etc. i.e., there's a bit of a connecting thread of that phrase ("the departed") here & there, throughout the film.
Right at the start of the scene, he says he was 10 years with Costello. That would be the world's slowest uncover mission ever. He's either not a cop or our tax dollars are being spent horribly.
@@asterginete3812 But Sullivan is a lying piece of shit! And he gets what's coming to him at the end! And re Queenan getting pitched out of the window, we never see what happened in those brief seconds before he's shown falling to the ground: i.e., there was 2 dudes there, besides Queenan (from Frank's crew), that Irish mug & Delahunt; they both had guns out when they burst in that room, so it's never shown if Queenan was shot and if he was, who did it? Well, if Billy's really a cop then he would've held back a little (that'd be the best he could do under the circumstances, if he didn't want to get made) & let the Irishman take the shot & as for Q. getting thrown out the window: how'd that come about? I don't think it was the plan, necessarily, it may have just turned out that way.
@@dimariobell8499 ...well he was, say, supposed to let the others grab Queenan/trying to get him to a window/dropp him off it, go for his gun and shoot them out (they were a pack of murderers after all). Which means he would blow his cover in the Costello case and be decommisioned from being undercover in the particular case, which is far better than throwing an innocent man off a building (especially that man being a high-ranked police officer). ...that's because you said "what was he supposed to do". However, a) I don't think he was supposed to be a cop, given the evidence we're given b) Scrorsese FUCKED up the "Delahunt character" thing as if he's been drinking heavily just before the final cut and simply did not want to admit it and half-ass cutting of the scene saved the day for him, because this way it seems kind ambiguous (except for the "killing Queenan" bit), considering "was he a cop or not after all"...
It's a nice bit of characterization for Delahunt and it is haunting for Costigan too. Because it forces him to wonder how far he'll go, what he'll do and what kind of terrible decisions of morality he needs to make. If Delahunt is an undercover cop, it speaks to the true meaning and mission of the police and their camaraderie pervading even into covert and life or death missions like this
Delahunt wasn't a cop, but he knew Dicaprio was. Which is why he's asking him to make sure he isn't thrown in a dumpster, and why he tells him he couldn't kill anyone, not even a rat like him.
Waltham1892 Delahunt was an undercover cop. If you go to the original film "Infernal Affairs" Dalahunt character (Keung) that was killed was an undercover cop. I don't really know if he was working for Queenan and Dignam but Delahunt was deffo a cop
Why was this scene deleted. It's only 4 minutes. It adds so much to the film and the dynamics of being a mobster with a degree of heart & compassion. It adds so much to the story. I am glad I watched this and thanks for posting.
When I saw it on Netflix it was in there. I can't remember if it was in the movie when I saw it at the theater. Maybe they cut it for time and put it back in.
alright let's settle this. the reason delahunt doesn't tell anybody is because deep down he's truly a good person and doesn't want to see billy get killed. it's not because he's a cop, and the department truly only says that to the news to prevent costello's people from searching for a rat. now. why is this character in the film? and why is his identity never confirmed or revealed in the film? the departed questions traditional concepts of "good guy" and "bad guy" and flips them upside down. people can appear good or bad, and can be either good or bad in reality. colin plays the good guy, but is truly corrupt and deceitful. billy plays a bad guy, but truly has good intentions (and a fucked up head). costello plays gangster mafioso, and sells out his own to the fbi. capt queenan is an honest good guy through and through, but gets made trying to protect his own. ssgt dignam (my personal favorite) appears brazenly the biggest self serving dick out of anyone, but in reality he always serves justice whether he appears good or not. the reason all of this is important in relation to delahunt is he's supposed to be a "bad guy." he works for costello, doing dirty work. for the purpose of all appearances and judgements, he should be deemed a bad guy. but just because someone works for the mob doesnt mean they have to be a bad person at heart. these questions are posed through the film, but not answered because scorsese wants people to think and come to their own answer. was he a cop or not? was he truly a bad person or no? does someone need to be a cop to be a good person? does being a grunt for the mob make you a bad person? scorcese deliberately doesnt give you the answer; he doesnt want to give you the answer. more importantly he gives you the difficult questions, and allows you to achieve your own difficult answers for yourself.
There are some undercovers so deep no one would ever know, but to be a CI and gangster leader is not likely. You can't be a good person and work for a gangster. At the end it was a tough choice to turn him in or stay quiet. Costello's would have wanted him to not dirty up his pet.
what I took from this scene was that now that he's dying he wants to have some sort of redemption for the life he led before, that's why he doesn't tell anyone billy is the rat, because he knows it's the right thing to do. when he asks bill why he didn't tell anyone he was the rat, he essentially telling him he's also a human being and deserves some dignity in how he's treated after death too. Being there knowing he ended up being some disposable henchman for costello that's just gonna be left in some swamp made him see things more clearly
Delahunt wasn't a cop, he thought he could kill someone (by sending Billy to the wrong adress and have him depicted as unreliable), but when he knew Billy was the rat he couldn't tell anyone because he knew he can't have him killed. Delahunt wasn't a cop. I would even argue Delahunt told Billy the wrong adress on purpose. How does he otherwise memorise that small mistake in that quick phone call to Billy? For not telling anyone Billy was the rat, Billy later tells someone where Delahunts body is located, despite Fitzys best efforts to hide the body. So he can get a proper funeral and not get the dumpster-like burial in some swamp. I wish this scene remained in the scene. It would give people more to think about regarding Delahunts background. Now it's just just Costello replying to the news, which doesn't do this Delahunt story justice.
+roblinssen88 it would of contradicted other scenes in the film, I think that's why Scorsese played with the editing of the film. Had he left it, he would of had to cut out the news report in the film where they find Dalehunts body and report that he was an undercover cop, I think for Boston PD, which I think is why Billy never new that since he is a State Undercover cop. Then its later revealed that Frank had FBI help as well. Was Dignam on the payroll as well for Frank? its a lot of open ended questions that Scorsese left open on purpose.
blankerism I think the news report is a false one, planted by the authorities to stop Costello to look for the mole, just like he said so himself. How would it be possible for news agencies to know Delahunt was indeed a true undercover cop within moments of his body being found other than it's a planted story? Nobody knows the identities of the undercover cops but Queenan and Dignam. Why would they leak Delahunts true identity (of an undercover cop) to the press minutes within his body being found? So I think the news story actually supports Costello's claim Delahunt is not a cop as I don't find it very likely they press would know his identity this quick. The main reason I can think of to remove the scene would be to keep the pace in the film. As to Dignam being on Franks payroll: what makes you say that? Costello was said to have two moles in the police department and those are Barrigan and Sullivan. Why would there be a third? Costigan sent the package with tapes to Dignam, so he knew about Sullivan being a rat. That's how he knew Sullivan was responsible for the death of both Queenan and Costigan, so killing him was payback for that.
What leads me to believe he was,was that Delahunt in the news story states he work for City PD, while Billy, Queenan and Dignam are State Police. that's why it was a surprise to him. Which is why I say that Boston PD, State PD and FBI were all in on it, being it investigating Frank or working for him. Also I don't mean to say Dignam was on his payroll, just what was his role. was he acting out as a vengeful cop because of what happened to Billy and Queenan? Or did he off Matt Damons character cause he shot Frank? That's why I say a lot of open ended questions and ambiguity is what Martin Scorsese gives us. It shows in his other films, Wolf of Wall Street, Casino, Gangs of New York etc etc etc. I could be wrong on the Departed but why else would we been talking about what is implied in one over another? you know what I mean?
blankerism Personally, I love the ambiguity in Scorseses films; without it we probably wouldnt have had this talk and the rewatchability of his films would be lower. I love it. Discovering something new every time I rewatch a film makes for a great film. This ambiguity is also why neither of us is wrong even though we interpret the film in different ways ;). But... You do have a point. Even aside the Boston vs state PD point, the symmetry of having two moles in State and two moles in Costellos organisation works fine in the film that divides its attention between the two organisations. However, ten years undercover seems like a really long time for mere muscle without having earned the trust of Costello. Without having gathered enough dirt on the man. Is it possible for Delahunt being a former cop who got lost in his role (with him being the departed from good to the shadows)? Possibly. I personally find that more likely than him still being an undercover cop who actually does still work for the police. That still does not fully explain the medias knowledge of him being a cop so soon though. It just feels weird for them to know so quick. With so many things in the film not being as they are first assumed on face value, I have to agree with Costello here: the story is planted mainly to think there is no longer a rat in Costellos organisation. It is impossible for us to know, leading to debates like ours.. showing the brilliance of the film. As for Dignam, the look on his face and the fact he shot him in the head tells me it was personal. If Dignam was linked to Costello, Costello would have known Costigan was the rat... why would Costello have given Costigan the tapes to a rat? My interpretation is Dignam was just a vengeful cop who knew it would be near impossible to have a legal case against Sullivan. It would seem like a begruntled fired employee who would make charges against his boss. Killing him both fit Dignams agressive character and made sense. Besides, he had to kill him with the carpet in Sullivans hallway, the film couldn't ignore a nice X ;).
There are a ton of parallels between Sheen’s operation and Nicholson’s. We’ve known the whole movie that Costello has one mole, but then suddenly learn there’s at least one more. This is another parallel where we’ve known the whole movie that there’s one undercover in Costello’s gang, and are suddenly learning (albeit less directly) that there’s at least one more. The staff sergeant also hinted that his department had “people out there”, meaning more than one.
one of my favorite movies of all time so well scripted no one can say 1 bad thing about this movie. When it first came out on DVD I swear me and my dad watched it for about a week straight never got old. Departed is one of the movies if its on tv u can sit and watched it all the way through no matter how many times u saw it before would everyone agree?
@@Teeveepicksures Completely different kind of film. Also, the film's point wasn't about Bostonian culture or whatever. It was supposed to be an entertaining game of 4D chess between an expert undercover cop and an expert mole.
That could just be him being paranoid. Especially with this guy having been working with them for 10 years, Costello would never believe hes a rat. I mean Costello couldnt even tell that Billy was a rat
The Dude The police are also in the news reporting business? You're suggesting they planted the story about Delahunt's death as a police officer just to throw Costello off the track? It's not believable that a news outlet in a major North American city would hand over its editorial responsibility to the police so they could plant a fake story.
It is amazing what different editing can do for a story. In the theatrical cut, I always assumed that he meant he as an undercover as well. But in this scene he says he has been with the boss for 10 years. No way an undercover is under for 10 years.
What you think they can only handle going under cover for a few months or 2 years at most? You clearly dont know what undercover means. There are people who have been undercover for 30, 40 years mate... 10 years aint nothing
@@nickclark18 I would like for you to provide an example of an undercover for 30-40 years. Always one commenter like you going on about your knowledge of "undercover", show some proof. Because no, I have never heard, nor could I find any examples of that. Even 10 years is stretching it.
I interpreted it as him getting flipped. People in these comments are just assuming he was an undercover to start, which is not the case. Most of the time these 'rats' are guys who got caught and are offered full immunity if they agree to become informants. So he could've been with costello for a decade and been a rat for 6 months, and it still all makes sense.
Delahunt is trying to trade favours. He doesn’t want to be dumped like a piece of trash. In exchange, he lets Billy know that he could have screamed at the last second and told the truth to the others as to who the rat was. This scene should have been kept in. Can’t see why it was deleted?
@@wyceholliday1317 There must be a directors cut version of the movie then? I've watched the film 100 times and this scene is definitely not in any version I've seen.
delahunt doesnt necessarily have to be a cop, he could just be an informant. Was with Costello for 10 years, at some point he turned. He said he never killed anyone, probably never wanted to, so he became an informant and he thought that would be his only way out.
I watched 2 hour movie - 10 cops and 20 gangsters killed (not to mention someone’s missing hand). This guy worked for 10 years for Costello and never killed anyone? Ok
What doesn't really make sense is: Billy was given the wrong address. So, he really wouldn't show up on the right address at the right time. That's exactly what happened: he was LATE. And he could still use the excuse that he only found the place because the body fell. Delahunt passes Billy the wrong address. Billy goes to the right address at the right time and nobody is there. Billy walks around the street and fights the right address because the body fell, which means he is late. Billy is not a rat.
Let me add to the rest of the sequence, if I can: I'll start where you ended: Billy is not a rat. Billy gets killed. Billy's killer gets killed. A rat crawls along a window. The rat symbolises obviousness. Eduardo Munhoz turns off the film after watching it. Eduardo is smart. Eduardo goes onto RUclips and sees this clip. In the clip, Scorsese admits that even he doesn't know what was going on, in a movie that he directed. Eduardo applies his intelligence and writes a RUclips comment. Eduardo's logic and rationality mean he could have made a better movie than this one. Jim Reilly reads Eduardo's post, and realises Eduardo is exactly right. Eduardo is smarter than Jim Reilly. --- Okay I don't mean to be facetious, but really, you're exactly right. The entire scene makes no sense. The movie makes little sense frankly. I know people love this movie, but I don't understand why. It is so ham-handed and over the top, but then, at the same time, full of plot holes. If the director didn't even know whether a character was an undercover cop or not, and if the director didn't make the same connections that you, an audience member did, I don't think there was ever much chance of The Departed being good. Just listen to the dialogue in this scene. "I'm nearly the departed", says Delahunt. Yeah. We get it. You're dying. You're nearly dead. Just like the rat at the end. Yeah. We get it. The rat, as Ralph Wiggum said in the Simpsons payout of this movie, symbolises obviousness. Anyway thanks for posting that. It is absolutely right.
Wow such an intense scene. Always gets me how close he (Billy) was to being exposed right there but for whatever reasons Delahunt had he didn't say anything to the other guys. Thanks for posting this deleted scene! Got lead here from your post on IBDM.
I like the scene better as it was in the film. Credit to Thelma Schoonmaker for the great editing. I always interpreted his "Tell me why I didn't tell nobody," as a spiritual moment, where Delahunt, knowing he is about to die wants to talk to the one good man in the crew about why he made a moral choice not to out the rat and contribute to Billy's death.
Just to be clear, Billy wasn't a "rat". He wasn't an informant or some type of low level criminal who passed information to the police to help him sustain his lifestyle (which ironically is what Costello did with the FBI). Billy was always an undercover cop working an assignment.
Aaron Treno I just watched the movie like less then an hour ago. That scene was shortened, maybe you saw the director's cut or something like that. Usually these are a little longer.
2 Years late to this comment lol. But yes, I've seen this movie a lot of times and was gonna say - I don't think it was deleted... Coz I remember this...
I think he was a cop, because when Sullivan is checking out the SSN's, both billy and delahunts numbers came back "unfound" if delahunt wasn't a cop why would he give a fake ssn?
dizlaoboi916 so he killed another cop and just freaked out when he found out Leo was the rat and nearly blew his cover?? When he says, “Tell me why Billy”, that’s his reaction to feeling betrayed.
How do we know Delahunt gave a fake ssn? Nothing in that scene suggested that. And how does Sullivan not finding Costello's guys in his computer make them cops? I guess I'm a cop too since I wouldn't be found in that computer. Billy and Delahunt were not found but for different reasons; Billy because his info was in a separate file that only Queenan and Dignam had access to, and Delahunt because he wasn't a cop.
First of all he clearly wasn't a cop,the only reason they found his body was due to dicaprio letting them know,also they said on the tv delahunt was a cop to throw nicholsons character off the scent.
I like how this keeps the question open on wheather or not Delahunt is a cop or not... but it makes more sense that they would have multiple informants in Castillo's crew. The same way Frank had multiple spies in the special crimes unit. This was deleted for a reason.
I always figured he was starting to see how crazy Castello was getting and wanted an end to it. He could never kill him himself, but If there was a rat he wouldn't do anything about it either because he knows thats the only way this was going to end.
Good scene, but I don’t like the beginning. I think that a scene of an old guy with glasses talking to the camera would have been weird and distracting
This scene would had give sense to the scene where they find his body cuz here he asked him to have a proper funeral which means leo who gives the details where he is to the cops
Only if Billy had known earlier that it would take 10 years to build a case against Costigan, the scene under the bridge with Dignam would have gone splendid.
+Jack Jackson Thats thing that makes me wonder as well. Why didn't he stop it? Thing is what Scorsese says in the commentary about him being an undercover or not, as if he wanted it to be ambiguous. Even though in a later scene in the film, it is revealed that Delahunt was a cop (Boston PD I think?) according to a news report in the film. But then again since its loosely based on Whitey Bulger, the web he cast with informants in his organization was big and how he used the FBI and possibly other law enforcement agencies 30 years ago explains to me some of the ambiguity that Scorsese put into the film as far as who was a mole and who wasn't. Then again Queenan was a State police and I think Delahunt was city PD but he knew they were meeting to go confront him as it is.
+leerey14 nah, thats silly... any undercover cop would absolutely without question blow their cover to save another officer from being murdered... ESPECIALLY a state police CAPTAIN..
+Jack Jackson Because he was with 3 other guys who would have thrown him over too if he tried. Little hard to do the right thing when you're outnumbered greatly.
He is literally the way between the 2 protagonist buy a guy in this comment section says that dela is on the tv in the next scene and thats confirms that he's a cop.. I dunno maybe it can confirm that he just receiving a proper funeral
"If they are saying he's a cop, then I'm going with he's a cop". That is your answer right there. Also, its obvious that Billy figured it out himself. He must have dropped a tip to someone where the body was dumped. Remember, Fitz said there was no way someone was walking a dog out there.... that was just the cover story for Billy dropping the info.
I don't know if it's a different cut or if it's later in the movie but I remember him saying the exact opposite, besides it's of no importance because Costello whatever he thinks or pretends to be thinking wouldn't know actually. Also at this point Billy had not contact left and he'd have more pressing things to worry about. Also he owed him anyway, cop or not, so even if he did it would mean nothing. On the other hand there are many reasons why he wouldn't be a cop: * he's been 10 years in, * he shot at other cops * if was a cop and knew Billy was a cop he wouldn't be charading and ask for help or some more direct message ("tell my wife" stuff...), worst case scenario he's already dying * it just makes things more interesting: it shows doubt, humanity, quest for redemption... It's more interesting than... "oh he was just a cop".
Dingle Barry your point is none sense, so many director that appear on their movie as cameo or supporting role. And Scorsese also did appear on Taxi Driver, Tarantino on most his movie, Ben Afflect of Argo, and so on.
he copied from the hong kong movie released years before the departed. its exactly the same only difference the cast. the plot and everything else was the same. martin scorsese is no best director for this film. best copy at max
Billy being kicked out of the staties was common knowledge, he was the newest on the crew, he was the only one missing when they got queenan, he was defensive and edgey whenever the rat was mentioned. Do Criminals operate on a beyond all reasonable doubt principal as well.
In the original Infernal Affairs (the Hong Kong film which The Departed is adapted from), Delahunt's equivalent Keung doesn't rat out Chan (Costigan's equivalent) because they were best friends and had come up the Triad ranks together for 10 years.
You can make a compelling argument either way, but my gut tells me Delahunt wasn't a cop. Having your last act in this life resulting in the death of another man doesn't seem right to him. He's obviously conflicted and confused. He asks Bill "tell me why?" in a tone that shows sincere conflict. I think Delahunt is overwhelmed and scared knowing the end is coming. So many conflicting emotions. He doesn't know what's right or wrong. Being on your deathbed really puts things in perspective.
This got me thinking... maybe the first guy to talk to him putting the body in a bad hiding space was actually intentional, because he wanted him to be discovered and buried by his family.
Minor nitpicking but why would Billy go for his gun at 0:40 ? Shooting a dying man who poses no threat to you while you're with all of Costello's crew would surely give himself away
There are multiple cheesy "departed" lines in the movie that weren't cut. For example, when Sullivan asked Dignam in the meeting after they found Myles Kennefick's body, "What was his name?.....The departed." The last part always seemed really cheesy and forced, especially due to the short pause and added in as almost an afterthought.
That was my first reaction too, but the more I think about it, usually and even within the final cut of the movie, "the departed" is always used for people who are dead already. But a thought like "I'm nearly the departed", is a far more morbid one. Sure we talk about dead people and the departed but it's still impossible to grasp the concept of death, and to be near death and think that soon you will not exist anymore is a thought that's hard to fathom. To know that you'll soon be one of "the departed". If they had to remove it, I wish they would've removed the other mentions of the departed and kept this one.
I don’t think he was a cop, I think he just was a good soul in a bad crowd. Maybe he felt bad about the life he lived and just wanted to go out not a bad guy. “Tell me why I didn’t turn you in ?”, I think since only Billy would know what he did. He wanted Billy to acknowledge that he’s not a bad person. Maybe the fear of death made him double think what he should do with the info he has. Just my thoughts, anybody agree or disagree??
A small problem with this scene is Delahunt says two things "You were never late in your life" and "I gave you the wrong address". So...couldn't the reason he was late was because you gave him the wrong address? he goes to the wrong adress hears a bunch of shooting in some other direction and then gets there
Fakename70 He wasn't a cop. The police (Sgt Dignam, specifically) would have created that lie to save Bill Costigan's life and to try to put Frank at ease. When someone is murdered the news will always ask the authorities for the identity of the victim. The police are always reluctant to give away such information so forwardly because the sensitive nature of murder investigations are better done in private. However, since Bill would have immediately reported to Sgt Dignam that he was in serious trouble after Capt Queenan's death, it behooved the police department to lie about Delahunt being a cop and to fabricate that evidence. That's why they were able to find and ID the body so quickly to the press after Fitzy expertly buried it. There's also no reason the news would look too deeply into this story when the source is officially from the authorities. This movie is all about intrigue and deceptions. And this was just another one of them.
@@MrJH101 You honestly believe a police organisation would publicly fabricate a story about a guy being a cop and allow a photo of him WEARING A POLICE OFFICER’S UNIFORM to be published by the local television news just to protect an ongoing undercover investigation? Would that real dead fake cop also have been given a real public memorial, too?
"He's dead. I'm goin' home. Oh, and also, just so ya know, I'm outta milk so I'm gonna stop by the grocery store on the way. So if ya can't get me on the phone, it's just cuz I got no coverage there. So don't worry, just leave a message and I'll get back to ya guys when I get signal again."
This might not have to do anything, but when Costello asked for everyone’s banking info, only Billy and delahunt were the ones without bank accounts. Delahunt saying to billy “I’m a cash guy myself”. Might be another thing pointing to delahunt being a cop.
He told him he is not a murderer. He knows billy is a cop so he knows he is merciful. He doesnt want to be dumped anywhere. He wants proper burial thats why he is telling Billy about it.
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His last act was to spare Billy's life. He didn't want to die a murderer.
He kept is Honor, to the end. He knew Billy was on his side, very touching scene.
Good comment
Even though 30 minutes prior he literally throws a Boston police captain to his death from a 10 story building?
Highly unlikely. When he's brought up by Alec Baldwins character, he's described as "muscle". So he's without a doubt killed people before. Probably not as many as Fitzy or Mr French, but still a murderer. And like the previous comment said, he just that day had a hand in Queenan's death.
He didnt tell anyone because he knew at that point Billy had the inside track on busting Costello. So how would Billy's death help a dying Delahunt? It wouldn't. He just took a fatal bullet for Frank for no reason.
Also during Billy and Frank's convo in the restaurant, Billy brings up the scenario that one of his guys will eventually kill him, because they are disgruntled; since Frank doesnt pay much etc. Well even though Delahunt doesnt kill Frank, its clear that he was disgruntled and probably wanted to see him eventually get arrested. Having Billy killed would've put an end to that.
A comment in another video goes against this comment. About billy being a rat and Costello trying to kill him. I think this whole movie is about saving billy. His final task, clear his name (family) from the streets. He’s the last one, no more family apart from his practically dead mother.
Two things happened after this point the sisters never laid a hand on Andy dufresne again and delahunt never walked again.
Lmao
😂
Lmfao I didn't even realize that was the same actor until reading this
I thought I recognized that actor.
Thank you!!!
The scene kept in the movie gives the impression he was a cop.
But looking at the full scene it is pretty obvious he wasn't a cop. He was a confused soul. A good man among bad people.
Interesting...
But I saw him more as a bad man amongst REALLY bad people.
Just trying to find redemption in his final moments.😊👍
I think the cops used Delahunt and reported that he was one of their own to make Frank stop looking for a rat and open himself up to more vulnerable attack, which is what Frank assumes in the movie itself. I think it's far more likely Delahunt wasn't a cop, just a not as bad mobster with enough principles not to have Billy killed as his last act on the earth. As an Irish Catholic, you'd assume Delahunt would want to use his last moments to interview well with the big man upstairs, instead of doing something cruel and unusual.
@@Bad_At_Parties Frank was an FBI rat tho
@@sumcallmejesus Well, of course. But Frank didn't want him being a rat getting out to his men, obviously, as it would be viewed as beyond despicable and dirty, and he'd lose their loyalty and have an even higher risk of one of them bumping him off out of principle and anger for the betrayal. So he had to keep an eye out for rats in his organization not just because they threatened the money he could bring in, but also because he had his own big secret to keep. If an undercover in his outfit found out he was a rat, the cops would find out and it wouldn't be long before the secret was blown, putting Frank in a vulnerable position. The way he had it set up at the time of the film, nobody knew he was dirty and his relationship with the FBI let him feed some smaller fish to them to keep himself on top. But once that secret becomes common knowledge, it's all over.
wasnt he a cop? thr annouced him as an undercover cop on thr news when they found his body
He was probably the fahkin' police commissioner......
You walk past us without looking you're ah cop.
Commishinnah*
Yer a cawp
fahkin cahksucka
"He was prah-bably the fah-kin' police commission-ah..."
Delahunt wasn't a cop. He just had some humanity left in him that kept him from wanting to cause Costigan's death.
Then why did the news say he was a cop
@@goku8621 To make Costello think that the cop he suspected had infiltrated his organization was dead.
Left purposely ambiguous, the report says he worked for Boston pd so its possible state police and fbi was unaware of it because they weren't coordinating with them.
@MartinTraXAA He was a cop. In the original movie, (Infernal Affairs) Chan (Billy's counterpart) was an undercover cop for 10 years.
Remember, Costello planted another rat in the police department who never exposed Sullivan when He knew He was also a rat. Delahunt was following the same loyalty
@@D93-w5q "Internal Affairs" is irrelevant. The Departed is an adaptation, plenty of details get changed, its not a 1 to 1 translation. It is neither confirmed nor denied within the confines of the movie that Delahunt was a cop.
His last line "tell why me I didn't tell anybody huh?" I think he wanted to hear "because you're a good person" before he died
Um no. Its because he was a frigging cop. He was saying why didn't I tell anyone. He was implying he was a cop
@@el34glo59 ok here we go again, WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW IF HE WAS A COP OR NOT, IN BOTH CASES HE WOULD'VE REMAINED SILENT WHEN QUEENAN WAS THROWN. THERE ARE 2 MAIN POINTS: ONE, HE WAS A FRICKING UNDERCOVER EITHER UNDER DIGNAM AS STATIE OR BOSTON PD. THE OTHER POINT IS HE NEVER MURDERED AND NEVER WANTED TO MURDER, HE JUST DIDN'T WANTED COSTIGAN KILLED. This is what i personally think
@@ashalibrahim2362 I disagree. I think he was making it clear that he knew he was a cop and didn't say anything because he also was one. Its my opinion. Happy now
@iman jones The same way Costigan definitely wouldn't attempt some elaborate citizen's arrest instead of delivering the evidence to Internal Affairs (heh) or Ellerby, investigators definitely wouldn't believe Sullivan's story with a forensic mess at the building central to a conspiracy
@@el34glo59 he didn't wanted to hear "because you're a good person" he just wanted him to make sure he doesn't end up in a dumpster like other he himself dumped. He first tells Billy the same because he knows Billy is the only one who'll listen to him seriously. Billy also responds with "it won't matter where you get dumped after your death". He knows Billy is his only chance and he tries to pull "I just saved your life by not telling others and just to repay this debt you owe me now please dont let me get dumped like others." That's it.
"I"m gonna be The Departed"
*Peter Griffin voice*
"So that's why they call it that"
That's not the only time in the movie that that line (The Departed) is used; it's in some eulogy or prayer or something at a cop's funeral (not sure which one, though) and I think in a card Frank sends to a dead cop's family or to his funeral, etc. i.e., there's a bit of a connecting thread of that phrase ("the departed") here & there, throughout the film.
Know Name the departed is said in like every other scene
_"Roll credits!!! (DING!!)"_ - Jeremy from Cinema Sins 🤣
@@MrKmanthie Damon says it in the FBI room too when they are talking about the microprocessors.. they say it a lot
“He’s wicked departed bro”😂😂
Right at the start of the scene, he says he was 10 years with Costello. That would be the world's slowest uncover mission ever. He's either not a cop or our tax dollars are being spent horribly.
In the Hong Kong version both the moles worked undercover for a decade too though
+MrAnswer2Q the cop started for a different smaller gang first before moving up.
yea, true. he had been with the short fat guy for 3 yrs.
MrAnswer2Q
exactly
This is Massachusetts. The Big Dig took 20 years. What is 10 years for a little undercover work...
"I've never been a murderer, except when I threw that cop out of the top storey window earlier today."
@Ran Dom Him watching and not attempt at stopping it makes him one too :)
happySmoke123 Um WRONG. Wtf was he supposed to do?! man yall just say the dumbest shit just to say it
If that's what happened then what Sullivan said was true, that one of their undercovers killed Queenan!
@@asterginete3812 But Sullivan is a lying piece of shit! And he gets what's coming to him at the end! And re Queenan getting pitched out of the window, we never see what happened in those brief seconds before he's shown falling to the ground: i.e., there was 2 dudes there, besides Queenan (from Frank's crew), that Irish mug & Delahunt; they both had guns out when they burst in that room, so it's never shown if Queenan was shot and if he was, who did it? Well, if Billy's really a cop then he would've held back a little (that'd be the best he could do under the circumstances, if he didn't want to get made) & let the Irishman take the shot & as for Q. getting thrown out the window: how'd that come about? I don't think it was the plan, necessarily, it may have just turned out that way.
@@dimariobell8499 ...well he was, say, supposed to let the others grab Queenan/trying to get him to a window/dropp him off it, go for his gun and shoot them out (they were a pack of murderers after all). Which means he would blow his cover in the Costello case and be decommisioned from being undercover in the particular case, which is far better than throwing an innocent man off a building (especially that man being a high-ranked police officer).
...that's because you said "what was he supposed to do". However,
a) I don't think he was supposed to be a cop, given the evidence we're given
b) Scrorsese FUCKED up the "Delahunt character" thing as if he's been drinking heavily just before the final cut and simply did not want to admit it and half-ass cutting of the scene saved the day for him, because this way it seems kind ambiguous (except for the "killing Queenan" bit), considering "was he a cop or not after all"...
Should have kept this scene in, explains it nicely.
Dying
Funny it was not deleted here
Lmao also here it was not deleted.
Don’t ever tell Martin Scorsese how to make a film
It's a nice bit of characterization for Delahunt and it is haunting for Costigan too. Because it forces him to wonder how far he'll go, what he'll do and what kind of terrible decisions of morality he needs to make. If Delahunt is an undercover cop, it speaks to the true meaning and mission of the police and their camaraderie pervading even into covert and life or death missions like this
Delahunt wasn't a cop, but he knew Dicaprio was.
Which is why he's asking him to make sure he isn't thrown in a dumpster, and why he tells him he couldn't kill anyone, not even a rat like him.
Waltham1892 The next scene in the movie clearly tells you Delahunt was a cop. There's a newstory on the TV about an undercover cop being killed.
Email Addy You sure they weren't talking about Martin Sheen's character?
Waltham1892 Delahunt was an undercover cop. If you go to the original film "Infernal Affairs" Dalahunt character (Keung) that was killed was an undercover cop. I don't really know if he was working for Queenan and Dignam but Delahunt was deffo a cop
Devito D No, Keung wasn't a cop...
***** It was announced on the TV after his death that he was an undercover cop
Why was this scene deleted. It's only 4 minutes. It adds so much to the film and the dynamics of being a mobster with a degree of heart & compassion. It adds so much to the story. I am glad I watched this and thanks for posting.
When I saw it on Netflix it was in there. I can't remember if it was in the movie when I saw it at the theater. Maybe they cut it for time and put it back in.
You may have picked a pirated print.
Even worse. It's less than 2 minutes of extra footage compared to the portion that made the cut.
@@lpr5269this scene is in the movie accept the part where fitz tells delahunt about the vet so the first couple seconds of the scene
The studio, probably.
alright let's settle this. the reason delahunt doesn't tell anybody is because deep down he's truly a good person and doesn't want to see billy get killed. it's not because he's a cop, and the department truly only says that to the news to prevent costello's people from searching for a rat.
now. why is this character in the film? and why is his identity never confirmed or revealed in the film? the departed questions traditional concepts of "good guy" and "bad guy" and flips them upside down. people can appear good or bad, and can be either good or bad in reality. colin plays the good guy, but is truly corrupt and deceitful. billy plays a bad guy, but truly has good intentions (and a fucked up head). costello plays gangster mafioso, and sells out his own to the fbi. capt queenan is an honest good guy through and through, but gets made trying to protect his own. ssgt dignam (my personal favorite) appears brazenly the biggest self serving dick out of anyone, but in reality he always serves justice whether he appears good or not.
the reason all of this is important in relation to delahunt is he's supposed to be a "bad guy." he works for costello, doing dirty work. for the purpose of all appearances and judgements, he should be deemed a bad guy. but just because someone works for the mob doesnt mean they have to be a bad person at heart.
these questions are posed through the film, but not answered because scorsese wants people to think and come to their own answer. was he a cop or not? was he truly a bad person or no? does someone need to be a cop to be a good person? does being a grunt for the mob make you a bad person? scorcese deliberately doesnt give you the answer; he doesnt want to give you the answer. more importantly he gives you the difficult questions, and allows you to achieve your own difficult answers for yourself.
There are some undercovers so deep no one would ever know, but to be a CI and gangster leader is not likely. You can't be a good person and work for a gangster. At the end it was a tough choice to turn him in or stay quiet. Costello's would have wanted him to not dirty up his pet.
Nailed it. That juxtaposition of good and bad people is what makes me re-watch this movie every year
That is my favorite comment of 2021 so far. Thank you.
@@ccasazza8016 indeed, my pleasure. see my commentary and analysis on star wars channels also. should start my own blog soon.
Well fucking said.
Also explains how they found the body so quickly. He didn’t want to be put in a dumpster. Instead it was a swamp and Billy told em where he was.
BINGO 👌
Told "em"?
Who's "em"?
Queenan is dead and Dingham resigned.
@@P715Rprobably called in anonymous tip
@@P715RCould’ve told Sullivan, who had Queenan’s phone.
I think this scene was him telling Leo to be more careful. He wanted him to succeed
4:59 he literally wipes his true expression off his face and goes back into character.
Great observation
Wow, good catch
what I took from this scene was that now that he's dying he wants to have some sort of redemption for the life he led before, that's why he doesn't tell anyone billy is the rat, because he knows it's the right thing to do. when he asks bill why he didn't tell anyone he was the rat, he essentially telling him he's also a human being and deserves some dignity in how he's treated after death too. Being there knowing he ended up being some disposable henchman for costello that's just gonna be left in some swamp made him see things more clearly
Knurdyob This is the most reasonable explanation
@@timb4248 Bullshit, rats are the lowest of the low, they dont want to get arrested why the fuck would they let him rat them all out. thats stupid
"I knew you were the rat but I didn't tell anyone, I saved your life, don't let them put me in a dumpster."
"What are we, some kind of The Departed?"
"So that's it huh? We're some kind of departed squad?"
Everyone is. Act accordingly
“Whaat ahh we some kinda Depahhhted?”
“What are we, some kind of Superman 4: The Quest for Peace?”
funkydankspliff what are we? Some kind of Birdman or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance?
"Where's ya boy"
"He's studying law at Notre Dame"
"WHERE'S YOUR FUCKING BOOOYY!!"
Notre Dame is where he went to college when he played the President in The West Wing
Billy: "when you're dead, it doesn't make a difference where they put you."
Frank Reynolds: "BURY ME IN THE TRASH!"
Ywah somewhere put there them dumb fuks are runnin around..wait isnt this movie set in Boston not Philly?
*put me in the trash
the sisters have taken quite a liking to you
Playin hard to get..... I like that
shawshank
Such an OG boggs reference...my favorite movie ever
@@dylanalbuquerque4854 can you provide a time stamp
@@Rattus1 It's not in the video, but it was a reference to how Delahunt is played by the same actor who played Bogs in shawshank (Mark Rolston)
Delahunt wasn't a cop, he thought he could kill someone (by sending Billy to the wrong adress and have him depicted as unreliable), but when he knew Billy was the rat he couldn't tell anyone because he knew he can't have him killed. Delahunt wasn't a cop. I would even argue Delahunt told Billy the wrong adress on purpose. How does he otherwise memorise that small mistake in that quick phone call to Billy?
For not telling anyone Billy was the rat, Billy later tells someone where Delahunts body is located, despite Fitzys best efforts to hide the body. So he can get a proper funeral and not get the dumpster-like burial in some swamp.
I wish this scene remained in the scene. It would give people more to think about regarding Delahunts background. Now it's just just Costello replying to the news, which doesn't do this Delahunt story justice.
+roblinssen88 it would of contradicted other scenes in the film, I think that's why Scorsese played with the editing of the film. Had he left it, he would of had to cut out the news report in the film where they find Dalehunts body and report that he was an undercover cop, I think for Boston PD, which I think is why Billy never new that since he is a State Undercover cop. Then its later revealed that Frank had FBI help as well. Was Dignam on the payroll as well for Frank? its a lot of open ended questions that Scorsese left open on purpose.
blankerism
I think the news report is a false one, planted by the authorities to stop Costello to look for the mole, just like he said so himself. How would it be possible for news agencies to know Delahunt was indeed a true undercover cop within moments of his body being found other than it's a planted story? Nobody knows the identities of the undercover cops but Queenan and Dignam. Why would they leak Delahunts true identity (of an undercover cop) to the press minutes within his body being found?
So I think the news story actually supports Costello's claim Delahunt is not a cop as I don't find it very likely they press would know his identity this quick. The main reason I can think of to remove the scene would be to keep the pace in the film.
As to Dignam being on Franks payroll: what makes you say that? Costello was said to have two moles in the police department and those are Barrigan and Sullivan. Why would there be a third? Costigan sent the package with tapes to Dignam, so he knew about Sullivan being a rat. That's how he knew Sullivan was responsible for the death of both Queenan and Costigan, so killing him was payback for that.
What leads me to believe he was,was that Delahunt in the news story states he work for City PD, while Billy, Queenan and Dignam are State Police. that's why it was a surprise to him. Which is why I say that Boston PD, State PD and FBI were all in on it, being it investigating Frank or working for him. Also I don't mean to say Dignam was on his payroll, just what was his role. was he acting out as a vengeful cop because of what happened to Billy and Queenan? Or did he off Matt Damons character cause he shot Frank? That's why I say a lot of open ended questions and ambiguity is what Martin Scorsese gives us. It shows in his other films, Wolf of Wall Street, Casino, Gangs of New York etc etc etc. I could be wrong on the Departed but why else would we been talking about what is implied in one over another? you know what I mean?
blankerism Personally, I love the ambiguity in Scorseses films; without it we probably wouldnt have had this talk and the rewatchability of his films would be lower. I love it. Discovering something new every time I rewatch a film makes for a great film. This ambiguity is also why neither of us is wrong even though we interpret the film in different ways ;).
But... You do have a point. Even aside the Boston vs state PD point, the symmetry of having two moles in State and two moles in Costellos organisation works fine in the film that divides its attention between the two organisations. However, ten years undercover seems like a really long time for mere muscle without having earned the trust of Costello. Without having gathered enough dirt on the man. Is it possible for Delahunt being a former cop who got lost in his role (with him being the departed from good to the shadows)? Possibly. I personally find that more likely than him still being an undercover cop who actually does still work for the police.
That still does not fully explain the medias knowledge of him being a cop so soon though. It just feels weird for them to know so quick. With so many things in the film not being as they are first assumed on face value, I have to agree with Costello here: the story is planted mainly to think there is no longer a rat in Costellos organisation. It is impossible for us to know, leading to debates like ours.. showing the brilliance of the film.
As for Dignam, the look on his face and the fact he shot him in the head tells me it was personal. If Dignam was linked to Costello, Costello would have known Costigan was the rat... why would Costello have given Costigan the tapes to a rat? My interpretation is Dignam was just a vengeful cop who knew it would be near impossible to have a legal case against Sullivan. It would seem like a begruntled fired employee who would make charges against his boss. Killing him both fit Dignams agressive character and made sense. Besides, he had to kill him with the carpet in Sullivans hallway, the film couldn't ignore a nice X ;).
Definitly should have kept that scene
I agree with shortening this scene. Other movies hold your hand and walk you around with super-explicit dialogue. I like having to think and wonder.
There are a ton of parallels between Sheen’s operation and Nicholson’s. We’ve known the whole movie that Costello has one mole, but then suddenly learn there’s at least one more. This is another parallel where we’ve known the whole movie that there’s one undercover in Costello’s gang, and are suddenly learning (albeit less directly) that there’s at least one more. The staff sergeant also hinted that his department had “people out there”, meaning more than one.
"don't laugh, this isn't reality TV !"
one of my favorite movies of all time so well scripted no one can say 1 bad thing about this movie.
When it first came out on DVD I swear me and my dad watched it for about a week straight never got old.
Departed is one of the movies if its on tv u can sit and watched it all the way through no matter how many times u saw it before would everyone agree?
Yeah, adored this film, was perfect for all the 2.5 hours
As a Bostonian, it's kinda cheesy tbh. The Town was actually much better.
@@Teeveepicksures Completely different kind of film. Also, the film's point wasn't about Bostonian culture or whatever. It was supposed to be an entertaining game of 4D chess between an expert undercover cop and an expert mole.
@@juanjoyaborja.3054 My point was the accents are all over the place and Nicholson was a clown.
He wasn't a cop. The cops said he was a cop so that they'd stop looking for the rat.
That could just be him being paranoid. Especially with this guy having been working with them for 10 years, Costello would never believe hes a rat. I mean Costello couldnt even tell that Billy was a rat
The Dude
The police are also in the news reporting business? You're suggesting they planted the story about Delahunt's death as a police officer just to throw Costello off the track? It's not believable that a news outlet in a major North American city would hand over its editorial responsibility to the police so they could plant a fake story.
Probably the fucking police commissioner.
The Dude yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion,man.
The Dude Dudeness
Honorable guy that Delahunt, didn’t want to give up billy cause he knew how it felt to be an undercover cop on the inside.
4:35 I just love that music. So sad and reflective.
It is amazing what different editing can do for a story. In the theatrical cut, I always assumed that he meant he as an undercover as well. But in this scene he says he has been with the boss for 10 years. No way an undercover is under for 10 years.
What you think they can only handle going under cover for a few months or 2 years at most? You clearly dont know what undercover means. There are people who have been undercover for 30, 40 years mate... 10 years aint nothing
boy have I got 7 extra seconds of Blade Runner footage that will blow your mind
@@nickclark18 I would like for you to provide an example of an undercover for 30-40 years. Always one commenter like you going on about your knowledge of "undercover", show some proof. Because no, I have never heard, nor could I find any examples of that. Even 10 years is stretching it.
@@RW77777777 I think I know what one your talking about, is this the one about Deckard actually being a replicant?
I interpreted it as him getting flipped. People in these comments are just assuming he was an undercover to start, which is not the case. Most of the time these 'rats' are guys who got caught and are offered full immunity if they agree to become informants. So he could've been with costello for a decade and been a rat for 6 months, and it still all makes sense.
Delahunt is trying to trade favours.
He doesn’t want to be dumped like a piece of trash. In exchange, he lets Billy know that he could have screamed at the last second and told the truth to the others as to who the rat was.
This scene should have been kept in. Can’t see why it was deleted?
That exactly what he was doing. A favor for a favor.
It wasn’t deleted it’s in the movie
@@omegamanGXE
Is that so?
@@StuTheDon17 just watched it the other day, and it’s in the movie. I didn’t understand why this video was made
@@wyceholliday1317
There must be a directors cut version of the movie then?
I've watched the film 100 times and this scene is definitely not in any version I've seen.
when you're dead it makes no difference where they put you. lmao good way to console him
He wasn’t trying to console him, he was trying to help him come to terms with the fact that they can’t just turn his body over to a funeral home.
delahunt doesnt necessarily have to be a cop, he could just be an informant. Was with Costello for 10 years, at some point he turned. He said he never killed anyone, probably never wanted to, so he became an informant and he thought that would be his only way out.
I watched 2 hour movie - 10 cops and 20 gangsters killed (not to mention someone’s missing hand). This guy worked for 10 years for Costello and never killed anyone? Ok
He wasn’t a cop. He was a fahkin firefighter 👩🚒
"The cops are saying he's a cop so I won't look for the cop."
What doesn't really make sense is: Billy was given the wrong address. So, he really wouldn't show up on the right address at the right time. That's exactly what happened: he was LATE. And he could still use the excuse that he only found the place because the body fell.
Delahunt passes Billy the wrong address.
Billy goes to the right address at the right time and nobody is there.
Billy walks around the street and fights the right address because the body fell, which means he is late.
Billy is not a rat.
Let me add to the rest of the sequence, if I can:
I'll start where you ended:
Billy is not a rat.
Billy gets killed.
Billy's killer gets killed.
A rat crawls along a window.
The rat symbolises obviousness.
Eduardo Munhoz turns off the film after watching it.
Eduardo is smart.
Eduardo goes onto RUclips and sees this clip.
In the clip, Scorsese admits that even he doesn't know what was going on, in a movie that he directed.
Eduardo applies his intelligence and writes a RUclips comment.
Eduardo's logic and rationality mean he could have made a better movie than this one.
Jim Reilly reads Eduardo's post, and realises Eduardo is exactly right.
Eduardo is smarter than Jim Reilly.
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Okay I don't mean to be facetious, but really, you're exactly right. The entire scene makes no sense. The movie makes little sense frankly. I know people love this movie, but I don't understand why. It is so ham-handed and over the top, but then, at the same time, full of plot holes. If the director didn't even know whether a character was an undercover cop or not, and if the director didn't make the same connections that you, an audience member did, I don't think there was ever much chance of The Departed being good.
Just listen to the dialogue in this scene. "I'm nearly the departed", says Delahunt. Yeah. We get it. You're dying. You're nearly dead. Just like the rat at the end. Yeah. We get it. The rat, as Ralph Wiggum said in the Simpsons payout of this movie, symbolises obviousness.
Anyway thanks for posting that. It is absolutely right.
Eduardo Munhoz You act like the right address and the one that they gave him are necessarily near.
Hajdut Laçian it was couple numbers away
Dr. King Schultz If I remember correctly it was 344 Wash, and they told him 314 Wash. Not close.
@@jimreily7538 that line was cut from the movie
Wow such an intense scene. Always gets me how close he (Billy) was to being exposed right there but for whatever reasons Delahunt had he didn't say anything to the other guys.
Thanks for posting this deleted scene! Got lead here from your post on IBDM.
IMDB?
No, this is Patrick
@@no-barknoonan1335 It's a movie website
Chillingly convincing death acted out by Mark Rolston there. Yikes. He deserved an Oscar for that death alone.
this scene is actually in the TV version.. the movie is currently now playing on TV and the scene is in it
i know i've seen this scene several times.. some on here saying it's deleted..
I like the scene better as it was in the film. Credit to Thelma Schoonmaker for the great editing. I always interpreted his "Tell me why I didn't tell nobody," as a spiritual moment, where Delahunt, knowing he is about to die wants to talk to the one good man in the crew about why he made a moral choice not to out the rat and contribute to Billy's death.
Just to be clear, Billy wasn't a "rat". He wasn't an informant or some type of low level criminal who passed information to the police to help him sustain his lifestyle (which ironically is what Costello did with the FBI). Billy was always an undercover cop working an assignment.
Correct, he was a "mole", not a rat.
"That cop...was tough. We were excessive with the cop."
Now that's funny.
I didn't know this was deleted? It was in the version of the movie I watched.
Aaron Treno The complete scene? I saw the movie, and it was shortened.
onee Maybe it wasn't
Aaron Treno
I just watched the movie like less then an hour ago. That scene was shortened, maybe you saw the director's cut or something like that. Usually these are a little longer.
2 Years late to this comment lol. But yes, I've seen this movie a lot of times and was gonna say - I don't think it was deleted... Coz I remember this...
part of it was, but not with all of that extra dialogue
the music is gorgeous 4:32
I think he was a cop, because when Sullivan is checking out the SSN's, both billy and delahunts numbers came back "unfound" if delahunt wasn't a cop why would he give a fake ssn?
dizlaoboi916 so he killed another cop and just freaked out when he found out Leo was the rat and nearly blew his cover?? When he says, “Tell me why Billy”, that’s his reaction to feeling betrayed.
@@sTalnaker13 he said "ask me why" as in ask why he didn't tell Costello and the rest
How do we know Delahunt gave a fake ssn? Nothing in that scene suggested that. And how does Sullivan not finding Costello's guys in his computer make them cops? I guess I'm a cop too since I wouldn't be found in that computer. Billy and Delahunt were not found but for different reasons; Billy because his info was in a separate file that only Queenan and Dignam had access to, and Delahunt because he wasn't a cop.
Your observation out of all the comments this one is the reason ima re watch it...that and bout did last night anyway
"Billy.. Don't.. Don't let them give Damon the titular line.."
First of all he clearly wasn't a cop,the only reason they found his body was due to dicaprio letting them know,also they said on the tv delahunt was a cop to throw nicholsons character off the scent.
have you ever seen the movie? the director already claimed that he's a fucking cop!
He was a cop. He was working for the Boston Police department.
I like how this keeps the question open on wheather or not Delahunt is a cop or not... but it makes more sense that they would have multiple informants in Castillo's crew. The same way Frank had multiple spies in the special crimes unit.
This was deleted for a reason.
I always figured he was starting to see how crazy Castello was getting and wanted an end to it. He could never kill him himself, but If there was a rat he wouldn't do anything about it either because he knows thats the only way this was going to end.
Good scene, but I don’t like the beginning. I think that a scene of an old guy with glasses talking to the camera would have been weird and distracting
"I"m gonna be The Departed"
*Arrested Development Narrator*: Hey, that's the name of this movie
This scene would had give sense to the scene where they find his body cuz here he asked him to have a proper funeral which means leo who gives the details where he is to the cops
Only if Billy had known earlier that it would take 10 years to build a case against Costigan, the scene under the bridge with Dignam would have gone splendid.
The nervousness in his voice leading up to this.. you can’t tell me he hadn’t sold his soul to be this great director !
8 out of 10 ,
Damn he even uses the title of the movie man they should have really kept this scene
In the HK version, Delahunt was never related to cops. He was a small time car thief when Leo's character was in the Police Academy.
I think he knew the gravity of taking someone's life and how hard it is to be the one who takes it.
If Delahunt was a cop, then why didn't he stop Queenan from being murdered? I vote NO!
+Jack Jackson Thats thing that makes me wonder as well. Why didn't he stop it? Thing is what Scorsese says in the commentary about him being an undercover or not, as if he wanted it to be ambiguous. Even though in a later scene in the film, it is revealed that Delahunt was a cop (Boston PD I think?) according to a news report in the film. But then again since its loosely based on Whitey Bulger, the web he cast with informants in his organization was big and how he used the FBI and possibly other law enforcement agencies 30 years ago explains to me some of the ambiguity that Scorsese put into the film as far as who was a mole and who wasn't. Then again Queenan was a State police and I think Delahunt was city PD but he knew they were meeting to go confront him as it is.
+Jack Jackson Because that would blow his cover.
+leerey14 nah, thats silly... any undercover cop would absolutely without question blow their cover to save another officer from being murdered... ESPECIALLY a state police CAPTAIN..
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idk ive watched enough movies to see that they will lay down when theres a ton of bad guys around them.
+Jack Jackson Because he was with 3 other guys who would have thrown him over too if he tried. Little hard to do the right thing when you're outnumbered greatly.
It's more interesting if he isn't a cop, but a crook with a conscience. If he's a cop then this is too easy a path for his character to take.
He is literally the way between the 2 protagonist buy a guy in this comment section says that dela is on the tv in the next scene and thats confirms that he's a cop.. I dunno maybe it can confirm that he just receiving a proper funeral
"If they are saying he's a cop, then I'm going with he's a cop". That is your answer right there. Also, its obvious that Billy figured it out himself. He must have dropped a tip to someone where the body was dumped. Remember, Fitz said there was no way someone was walking a dog out there.... that was just the cover story for Billy dropping the info.
Very observant. But it could be that Billy wanted him to have a regular grave and not be put in a "dumpster", or in this case a marsh.
I don't know if it's a different cut or if it's later in the movie but I remember him saying the exact opposite, besides it's of no importance because Costello whatever he thinks or pretends to be thinking wouldn't know actually.
Also at this point Billy had not contact left and he'd have more pressing things to worry about. Also he owed him anyway, cop or not, so even if he did it would mean nothing.
On the other hand there are many reasons why he wouldn't be a cop:
* he's been 10 years in,
* he shot at other cops
* if was a cop and knew Billy was a cop he wouldn't be charading and ask for help or some more direct message ("tell my wife" stuff...), worst case scenario he's already dying
* it just makes things more interesting: it shows doubt, humanity, quest for redemption... It's more interesting than... "oh he was just a cop".
I love when he made it through the tunnel to swim in freedom. Great scene
Martin Scorsese....BEST DIRECTOR EVER!!!!
quinton tarintino is TBE! so stop messing about son!1
Dingle Barry your point is none sense, so many director that appear on their movie as cameo or supporting role. And Scorsese also did appear on Taxi Driver, Tarantino on most his movie, Ben Afflect of Argo, and so on.
he copied from the hong kong movie released years before the departed. its exactly the same only difference the cast. the plot and everything else was the same. martin scorsese is no best director for this film. best copy at max
Kurosawa is the greatest in my opinion. And was way ahead of his time. Scorsese himself believes that, along with his pals Spielberg and Lucas.
@Dingle Barry ha ha. Funny how you kept with the joke even after he bit the bait.
Billy being kicked out of the staties was common knowledge, he was the newest on the crew, he was the only one missing when they got queenan, he was defensive and edgey whenever the rat was mentioned. Do Criminals operate on a beyond all reasonable doubt principal as well.
Why did Delahunt allow queenan to be thrown off the roof if he was a cop?
Lol exactly. Why did he work 10 years observing a criminal kill dozens of people. Quite a mission
So he wouldn’t blow his cover
@@GigaChadh976 Allow a police chief to be murdered? Never in real life.
In the original Infernal Affairs (the Hong Kong film which The Departed is adapted from), Delahunt's equivalent Keung doesn't rat out Chan (Costigan's equivalent) because they were best friends and had come up the Triad ranks together for 10 years.
I remember a time when I really enjoyed Hollywood films. They used to take me away from the daily everyday. Now they are the everyday.
You can make a compelling argument either way, but my gut tells me Delahunt wasn't a cop. Having your last act in this life resulting in the death of another man doesn't seem right to him. He's obviously conflicted and confused. He asks Bill "tell me why?" in a tone that shows sincere conflict.
I think Delahunt is overwhelmed and scared knowing the end is coming. So many conflicting emotions. He doesn't know what's right or wrong. Being on your deathbed really puts things in perspective.
Subtitles added now!
The dialogue in the respective scene in Infernal Affairs is very nicely written. It should have been kept fully.
It was definitely the most touching scene in the movie
I was looking for this scene and now I have Scorsese explaining it. You can't ask for more.
This got me thinking... maybe the first guy to talk to him putting the body in a bad hiding space was actually intentional, because he wanted him to be discovered and buried by his family.
Oh shit...
This film is borrowed and adapted from the Hong Kong movie "inferno affair" some years ago.
Mark Rolston, awesome actor. Veteran all the way back to Aliens!
Minor nitpicking but why would Billy go for his gun at 0:40 ?
Shooting a dying man who poses no threat to you while you're with all of Costello's crew would surely give himself away
Easier to come back from that than if Delahunt decides to educate everyone else on the matter.
Cause he could’ve made the excuse by saying I’m putting him out of his misery.
I would have had a nervous breakdown if I were Costigan. Lol
Great scene. Wish it stayed in. Fitzys line about the vet being sober was friggin hilarious.
I love the part where he says "I'm nearly the departed" and then he departs. Peak cinema
Nobodys mentioning how Jack Nicholsons character mentioned how his body wasn't fully buried in the ditch lol.
So glad they cut “I’m nearly the departed” so cheesy.
No kidding.
There are multiple cheesy "departed" lines in the movie that weren't cut. For example, when Sullivan asked Dignam in the meeting after they found Myles Kennefick's body, "What was his name?.....The departed." The last part always seemed really cheesy and forced, especially due to the short pause and added in as almost an afterthought.
@@realniggashit3 except that's exactly what would be said and how it would be said in that situation....
That was my first reaction too, but the more I think about it, usually and even within the final cut of the movie, "the departed" is always used for people who are dead already. But a thought like "I'm nearly the departed", is a far more morbid one. Sure we talk about dead people and the departed but it's still impossible to grasp the concept of death, and to be near death and think that soon you will not exist anymore is a thought that's hard to fathom. To know that you'll soon be one of "the departed". If they had to remove it, I wish they would've removed the other mentions of the departed and kept this one.
I've always heard his line read as "I've nearly departed", which made more sense.... Those accents man.
I don’t think he was a cop, I think he just was a good soul in a bad crowd. Maybe he felt bad about the life he lived and just wanted to go out not a bad guy. “Tell me why I didn’t turn you in ?”, I think since only Billy would know what he did. He wanted Billy to acknowledge that he’s not a bad person. Maybe the fear of death made him double think what he should do with the info he has. Just my thoughts, anybody agree or disagree??
Delahunt to Billy: "I know you like to wear women's underwear. Tell me why I didn't tell anyone? Huh?"
I've watched this movie hundreds of times, and every time I've watched it this scene has been in it......
same
A small problem with this scene is Delahunt says two things "You were never late in your life" and "I gave you the wrong address". So...couldn't the reason he was late was because you gave him the wrong address? he goes to the wrong adress hears a bunch of shooting in some other direction and then gets there
Could be he gave address that is miles away?
It’s a movie yo, let’s not forget 😁
@@dibbyo456314 and 344 is not miles away
He was there before the shooting started
the film confirms that he's a cop. he's on the tv in the next scene
What
oh dear we got another braindead over here
i thought the cops just said he was undercover to get the heat off billy.
could just be Costello's paranoia
Greatest film ever made. Period. Couldn't believe Scorsese could outdo Goodfellas, but he did it.
"I'm nearly the departed." How could they cut that scene.
The line is covered in cheese and corn.
@@habadasheryjones😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Great actor who played Delahunt.
My take is that he was just facing his death in a stoic manner.
I just assumed from this scene that it was obvious Delahunt was a cop. His obituary said as much, remember? Even shows him in uniform.
Hey man can you clarify about the grave and photo of him in uniform?
Fakename70
He wasn't a cop. The police (Sgt Dignam, specifically) would have created that lie to save Bill Costigan's life and to try to put Frank at ease.
When someone is murdered the news will always ask the authorities for the identity of the victim. The police are always reluctant to give away such information so forwardly because the sensitive nature of murder investigations are better done in private. However, since Bill would have immediately reported to Sgt Dignam that he was in serious trouble after Capt Queenan's death, it behooved the police department to lie about Delahunt being a cop and to fabricate that evidence. That's why they were able to find and ID the body so quickly to the press after Fitzy expertly buried it. There's also no reason the news would look too deeply into this story when the source is officially from the authorities. This movie is all about intrigue and deceptions. And this was just another one of them.
@@MrJH101
You honestly believe a police organisation would publicly fabricate a story about a guy being a cop and allow a photo of him WEARING A POLICE OFFICER’S UNIFORM to be published by the local television news just to protect an ongoing undercover investigation? Would that real dead fake cop also have been given a real public memorial, too?
The final cut is better more ambiguous and jarring
Martin Scorsese is a fucking genius, I honestly love the guy
He didn’t say anything because he’s not a rat
This guy was in Shawshank redemption.. played the sisters 👯♀️
It’s Drake from Aliens
1:52 The camaraderie of criminals is kind of fascinating. Fitz is genuinely kind here.
"He's dead. I'm goin' home. Oh, and also, just so ya know, I'm outta milk so I'm gonna stop by the grocery store on the way. So if ya can't get me on the phone, it's just cuz I got no coverage there. So don't worry, just leave a message and I'll get back to ya guys when I get signal again."
This might not have to do anything, but when Costello asked for everyone’s banking info, only Billy and delahunt were the ones without bank accounts. Delahunt saying to billy “I’m a cash guy myself”. Might be another thing pointing to delahunt being a cop.
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He told him he is not a murderer. He knows billy is a cop so he knows he is merciful. He doesnt want to be dumped anywhere. He wants proper burial thats why he is telling Billy about it.