Ive been meaning to see this movie for years, ive heard its excellent and i love finchers work in general, but ive literally never managed to stay awake for the whole thing.
It is a detective film. Do not go in thinking it a thriller or horror film. It has those elements, but it is a neo- noir detective story most of all. Try to put yourself in the shoes of not just the people investigating, but the killer himself...
Most overlooked, BRILLIANT piece of subtle film making was that throughout the entire movie the Detective took food from his partner, had him bring him Animal Crackers, etc. But after that scene in the diner he took out money and paid the breakfast with Robert. This shows that he likely had more respect for Robert than he did his own partner (who I am sure he also respected, but it speaks to how much he thought of Robert) David Fincher is a genius.
I mean, yeah, he was in Fargo. But John Carroll Lynch's character as Marge's husband was so incredibly small and insignificant really. What did he have...4 or 5 small and trivial (ex... "how was work today, honey?) lines? Maybe 5 collective minutes of overall screentime, too lol. I don't know how you can honestly say he "rocked". Steve Buscemi rocked in that film. Even the actor who played William H. Macy's father in law, Harvey Presnell, was great. He was a prick but he was entertaining to watch lol
I am mostly left-handed, write with my left, shoot with my right, bat left-handed, throw with my right, catch with my left, and I wear my watch on my left wrist.
@@eyeseer1Mike Mageau "identified" Arthur Leigh Allen 22 years after briefly seeing only the profile of his attacker. Sadly, that was 22 years of hard drug and alcohol abuse, too... the trauma that poor man endured is admittedly awful to think about. I can't even begin to imagine...
Living in the Lake Tahoe region it’s now clear this was a group of Ex-Military men pulling these murders off. Another serial killer was found in the region and had a woman locked in a homemade jail, this happened in the mid-80’s and everything got with Zodiac. Until they discovered he was Asian but a former Marine along with all his friends who were part of a “club” who gathered together to watch The Worlds Most Dangerous Game.
@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 don't listen to him. Just another crazy Zodiac theory that will lead you down a meaningless rabbit hole with no real resolution in the end...
One thing that i thought was odd about this scene is that he's left handed and yet he's wearing his watch on his left hand. Usually you wear a watch around the wrist of the hand you don't write in. Mind you I've been following the Zodiac case for years. I even co-run a popular Facebook group about the Zodiac Killer called The Zodiac Killer Discussion Group...and I know Arthur Leigh Allen was NOT the Zodiac Killer (for a multitude of reasons) and I emphatically stand behind that belief...but I never noticed that detail in this scene before... But knowing that David Fincher is the Stanley Kubrick of our filmmaking era (an articulate perfectionist), I can only assume that Arthur did wear his watch on his left hand... I mean, that's too big of a detail for a filmmaker like David Fincher to get wrong.
I am left handed and when i had watches i would wear them on my left hand too. It would feel weird to me wearing them on the right hand. And if the watch would make it hard to write id probably just take it off. I always wondered why right handed people have their watches on their left hand.
@@sladjanivkovic2 it's not an "obsession", it's a hobby. Between work, my family and other things going on in my personal life, I barely research the case anymore and with a few other admins in the FB Zodiac group, I don't need to be there literally everyday to watch over it lol
@@Swiss_Cynic that's actually pretty interesting to know. Obviously I didn't know that before lol I just based what I thought off of my Dad, who's left handed, and showed me how to wear a watch. But then again, what he showed me was only his preference.
If i was ever a murder suspect i would NOT tell the detectives how fascinated i am by murders.
Was this before or after he and his brother sold McDonalds to Ray Kroc?
Explains a lot....lol
Yeah and "Goose" didn't die when he ejected, he just went to the police academy!
Hahahaha
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Haha for those who don't get the reference, the bald killer guy was also cast in The Founder as one of the McDonald's founders. Hehe
Dudes just adding evidence to his alibi and wants me to think he’s NOT the killer
Movie is underrated. Really good detail and acting.
It’s the pacing! The pacing, Charlie. Without it we’ve got nothing.
A brilliant thriller. Keeps you on edge the whole time.
One of the officers broke into stu leonards and stole a bunch of pork loins
Yer but that's not why we are here at the moment
A real juicer
There he goes.. Mr. Type A personality!!
Ive been meaning to see this movie for years, ive heard its excellent and i love finchers work in general, but ive literally never managed to stay awake for the whole thing.
It is
Probably top 5 American mainstream films of the 00s
Fabulous movie
Top 20 ever
It is a detective film. Do not go in thinking it a thriller or horror film. It has those elements, but it is a neo- noir detective story most of all. Try to put yourself in the shoes of not just the people investigating, but the killer himself...
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Most overlooked, BRILLIANT piece of subtle film making was that throughout the entire movie the Detective took food from his partner, had him bring him Animal Crackers, etc.
But after that scene in the diner he took out money and paid the breakfast with Robert. This shows that he likely had more respect for Robert than he did his own partner (who I am sure he also respected, but it speaks to how much he thought of Robert)
David Fincher is a genius.
Iron man, Bruce Banner, and even f*ckin Mysterio with all they do really couldn’t catch the Zodiac killer??? Cmon now
1:13 the look of someone who thinks they're looking at a murderer.
Arthur Leigh Allen was locked in the same mental hospital as Edward Kemper;
The mental hospital is still in operation.
Dude rocked in Fargo.😊
I mean, yeah, he was in Fargo. But John Carroll Lynch's character as Marge's husband was so incredibly small and insignificant really. What did he have...4 or 5 small and trivial (ex... "how was work today, honey?) lines? Maybe 5 collective minutes of overall screentime, too lol. I don't know how you can honestly say he "rocked". Steve Buscemi rocked in that film. Even the actor who played William H. Macy's father in law, Harvey Presnell, was great. He was a prick but he was entertaining to watch lol
He had the mallard on the 3 cent stamp!
He made Margie eyggs goddamit, right after hocking up the slimiest thickest loogie imaginable. He's my hero.
A McDonald brother, The Hulk, Casey Jones and Dr. Green.
Left handers don't keep watches on their left hand
Yes we do. Been left handed for 45 years and since about 13 or so it's been on my left hand.
@@af7119 Same here, don't know what this guy is talking about.
lol I've worn my watch on my left hand for my whole entire life.
Crazy i didn’t know you knew every left handed person in the world. We must’ve meet somewhere
I am mostly left-handed, write with my left, shoot with my right, bat left-handed, throw with my right, catch with my left, and I wear my watch on my left wrist.
The current Netflix documentary really focuses on this guy as the prime suspect.
His DNA never matched the saliva from the Zodiac Killer letters.
He was identified by one eye witness.
@@eyeseer1Mike Mageau "identified" Arthur Leigh Allen 22 years after briefly seeing only the profile of his attacker. Sadly, that was 22 years of hard drug and alcohol abuse, too... the trauma that poor man endured is admittedly awful to think about. I can't even begin to imagine...
@@eyeseer1there’s a lot that links him to the killings, circumstantial but convincing nonetheless.
Living in the Lake Tahoe region it’s now clear this was a group of Ex-Military men pulling these murders off. Another serial killer was found in the region and had a woman locked in a homemade jail, this happened in the mid-80’s and everything got with Zodiac. Until they discovered he was Asian but a former Marine along with all his friends who were part of a “club” who gathered together to watch The Worlds Most Dangerous Game.
Creepy and quite believable. Would like to know more if you are willing to tell...
@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 don't listen to him. Just another crazy Zodiac theory that will lead you down a meaningless rabbit hole with no real resolution in the end...
@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 yeah, and if you could come down to the station to get a clearer picture would be great
Charles Ng and Leonard Lake
@@state0fdecay365 If you could just jot down them coordinates I would happily oblige to your meet and greet.
never steal mcdonalds or places like that and this wont happen
Bro Mindhunter is so much better
Kevin from The Office was the Zodiac Killer?
He’s the Scranton strangler
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One thing that i thought was odd about this scene is that he's left handed and yet he's wearing his watch on his left hand. Usually you wear a watch around the wrist of the hand you don't write in.
Mind you I've been following the Zodiac case for years. I even co-run a popular Facebook group about the Zodiac Killer called The Zodiac Killer Discussion Group...and I know Arthur Leigh Allen was NOT the Zodiac Killer (for a multitude of reasons) and I emphatically stand behind that belief...but I never noticed that detail in this scene before... But knowing that David Fincher is the Stanley Kubrick of our filmmaking era (an articulate perfectionist), I can only assume that Arthur did wear his watch on his left hand... I mean, that's too big of a detail for a filmmaker like David Fincher to get wrong.
I am left handed and when i had watches i would wear them on my left hand too. It would feel weird to me wearing them on the right hand. And if the watch would make it hard to write id probably just take it off. I always wondered why right handed people have their watches on their left hand.
Dude, that is unhealthy obsession lmao
@@sladjanivkovic2 it's not an "obsession", it's a hobby. Between work, my family and other things going on in my personal life, I barely research the case anymore and with a few other admins in the FB Zodiac group, I don't need to be there literally everyday to watch over it lol
@@Swiss_Cynic that's actually pretty interesting to know. Obviously I didn't know that before lol I just based what I thought off of my Dad, who's left handed, and showed me how to wear a watch. But then again, what he showed me was only his preference.
Been left handed for 45 years and since about 13 or so it's been on my left hand
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Gyllenhall monologuing at full breath about murders in a restaurant is a bit of a stretch.
I can’t watch these virtue signaling narcissists anymore. Sad
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