Infernal Affairs (2002) vs The Departed (2006)
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Open on - the underbelly of a seedy city entwined with organized crime. The police force’s desperate continued attempts to root it out. On one side, a mole in the police force, foiling their plans at every turn, struggling with his own identity and morality. On the other, an undercover cop who sacrifices everything to bring down the mob. The two play a deadly game of cat and mouse that binds them together. This setup serves as the premise for both INFERNAL AFFAIRS and its Hollywood remake, THE DEPARTED (or if you’re from Beantown - The Depahted), and while the two films share an identical story outline, the execution of each is vastly different!
INFERNAL AFFAIRS is 2002 Hong Kong action-thriller, starring Andy Lau and Tony Leung, co-directed by Andrew Lau and Alan Mak. In the film, two deep cover operations are hatching around the same time with Lau Kin-ming, a young gangster who is sent to the police academy by his triad boss Hon Sam, and at the other end of the spectrum, Superintendent Wong Chi-shing, has expelled Chan Wing-yan, a young police cadet, from the very same police academy. Fast forward 10 years later, Lau has risen through the ranks and is now working under the superintendent to bring down Hon Sam, and Chan is a trusted soldier embedded within Hon Sam’s crew.
THE DEPARTED is a 2006 American remake starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Matt Damon with the legendary Martin Scorsese in the director’s chair. In this re-telling, Hong Kong is replaced with Boston and the triad is swapped out with the Irish mafia. Damon plays Colin Sullivan who becomes a mole in the police force for mob boss Frank Costello and DiCaprio plays Billy Costigan Jr, the honest cop who goes undercover in Costello’s infamous crew. The film has multiple scenes that are replicated beat for beat, including Sullivan tailing Costigan, and the pair’s final rooftop confrontation.
That being said, there are also many changes THE DEPARTED makes from its source material including a love triangle and a different ending! So which iteration of the story comes out on top? Will it be INFERNAL AFFAIRS with its frenetic energy and tight pacing or THE DEPARTED with its more expansive scope and trademark style of an acclaimed director at the height of his powers? Much like the dual protagonists of the films, to find out we must... FACE OFF!
This episode of Face Off is written by Paul Cooper, narrated by Shawn Knippelberg, and edited by Stephen White. Let us know in the comments which film you prefer - Infernal Affairs or The Departed!
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No matter how fast Departed can run,it can't catch the Infernal affair above the sky
Fun fact: The name of IF's psychiatrist character, Lee Sum Yee, is a pun in Cantonese for "Your Psychiatrist"
The departed has an excellent cast but, for me, Tony Leung is the best actor in the game.
'The Departed' is one of the very few remakes that I approve. 'Infernal Affairs' is very slightly more stylish. 'The Departed' expanded the father-figure role of the mob boss. It's very difficult to choose which one is better. They are both excellent films. I prefer 'Infernal Affairs'. Just.
this comparison doesn't have the sequel included. The sequel expanded the father-figure mob boss with Francis Ng. As the central character. Ngai Wing Hau had to take up the role of the patriarch because his dad, Ngai Kun, died. Chan is Ngai Wing Hau's half brother and he tried to recruit him but he refused because Chan wants to become a cop, therefore making him someone who never did anything wrong, but forced to stay in his role, undercover, in the gang. Btw, Francis Ng dies and Eric Tsang watched in 1997 the handover ceremony as he became the boss and the changing of times became an identity crisis for any Hong Konger's destiny 😢
@@VWYL900802, are the sequels on par with the first film?
@@cjewe1z what do you even mean? The second one is the director’s favourite one in the trilogy.
This trilogy made HKers change how they called under covers. It used to be called yee m chai, 二五仔, two five guy, which was referenced in the first film when Anthony Wong’s character gave Tony Leung a small b-day present, because Chan’s b-day is feb 25th. Now everyone in HK calls an yee m chai as mou gaan dou, which both means undercover.
Infernal Affairs is MasterPiece.
I inferal affairs is not masterpiece but the departed is masterpiece
Mr Scorsese nailed that remake, but Internal Affairs is still better.
Infernal Affairs is masterpiece in comparison to the Departed, Lau Kin Ming and Chen Wing Yan are intresting, Ming is torn inbetween right and wrong and Yan is clearly suffering ptsd due to being undercover for a decade, while Bill and Colin are as intresting as used dish water, Colin is a total asshole and Bill is a nutcase who's bitching and moaning after a couple of months as an undercover operative. Everyone else in the Departed are either boring, stupid or Alec Baldwin.
Nah Nothing can beat the departed except possibly fight club
@@Horrorking36736still just a remake - felt familiar when i watched it in Cinema, like i had watched it before. Still Think its good, but very overrated - just check imdb, then you Will know what i mean.
@@Horrorking36736 nah departed is shit
Actually, the ending of infernal affairs has many meanings, Andy Lau here is a complicated vilain, throughout the movie he is conflicted with himself, he's indeed a vilain but he has remorse, which makes him more human and "likeable"
I will point out that the third and final movie in the Infernal Affairs series has Lau get shot in the final confrontation when he’s finally exposed. Though he doesn’t die, he is paralyzed and rendered unable to speak, and the final shot is of him tapping out the word “HELL” in Morse code as he sits in a wheelchair in the middle of a field.
A recent interview from the director said the code tapped was "HEL" and intended to become "HELP"
HELL would make more sense to the Buddhist parable connection than him saying HELP
Both great movies, a tie is a good outcome 👍
We prefer Infernal Affairs. ❤❤❤❤
I liked Infernal Affairs more. I saw it first and watched it a couple times.
All I could think of when I watched the Departed was: "Ripoff! Ripoff!"
It seemed to be the exact same story but without the class of the first movie.
That was all that really disquinshed the 2nd movie from the 1rst was all the general disrespect and shittiness everyone had towards each other in both professions in the Departed.
infernal by far ;:)=
I don't understand why in the "direction" category you make such a big point out of when the arm cast scene is placed within the movie. That has absolutely nothing to do with the director but with the script given.
It might have ended in a tie, but Infernal Affairs winning over The Departed (Scorsese!) is the real index of who "won" the battle.
The HK movie is still de best
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Infernal Affairs is by far a better movie.
It is strenge that you throw in Love Interst or the lack of it in IA as one of the key factors, why?
Also top nocht performances for all supporting actors in AI including the head of the mafia gang who usualy did comedy.
I thing Infernal Affairs 2002 is better...all around better. Watching The Departed I am watching acting. Watching IA 2002, I forget at times that I am watching acting.
And this is not bias because I am Chinese.
The Departed seems as though it tries to be redemptive, as all the bad stuff is happening. Therefore, silly lines, exaggerated facial expressions and speech tones, unnecessary scenes such as the "love interests" conducting their affairs are written in...this is not a romance film, unless it is for comic relief.
Copying is now called adaptation.
It’s funny that the Chinese fight Club ending is actually truer to the novel.
Actually it is the Infernal Affairs Trilogy that made The Departed look like an after-school special. The Departed felt like a rush job. Let alone, their was no triangle released in the original Trilogy. She was only interested in Yan.
How about originality?
best ending and ban real ending...
For those saying the departed copied infernal affairs, etc… it was a remake of infernal affairs. Meaning Plan B paid the HK studio 1 million US dollars for the rights to Infernal Affairs. They weren’t trying to fool anyone saying it was an original story.
Infernal Affairs is better movie.
They are both good movies with great acting and directing. If I had to choose one, I would still choose IA because it was original, the characters were well developed and the focus was less on the violence (even though violence is present). The iconic scene when Andy Lau's Character points the gun at Tony Leung's character on top of a building with the city in the background is also memorable. In general the City of Hong Kong features more with its streets and character than Scorcese's version. It just adds more to the texture of the movie and fixes it in both time and place to make it more unique and watch-worthy (is that a word?).
I think the Hong Kong original version of The Departed is much better！
Be interesting to see you redo this but reviewing the entire Infernal Affairs trilogy
The full trilogy is ~5.5 hours long
internal affairs focused more on the psychological aspect of the two main actors , i like IF more than the departed
Departed is a good movie, but it doesn't really improve anything after all. While the acting performances are not bad, none of the actore came close the his/her best performances. I really like Nicholson, but I think this time his overacting was outright anoying. DiCaprio was the only one I would say delivered an outstanding performance. The acting in IA was very natural and believable (escpecially for a HK movie) to the smallest supporting character. The story changes are not for the good either. While I can see what they were going for with the love triangle, and I think it's an interesting change, I still like the original version better. Yes, the love stories get more attention and depth, but that doesn't change anything regarding the tragic of both main characters. I general I'm not very fond of the fact that in the American version people tends more towards either good or bad. Adding Wahlbergs character just to get a more Hollywood-streamlined ending is by far the worst single change. Not only was his acting performance one of the worst in his carreer. In the original there is a good and and an evil side of the story, but many characters are neither absolutly evil nor good, especially the main characters. This is the biggest point of the whole movie and the remake just trashes that. At least they killed DeCaprio - I was actually surprised because I was not expecting that.
To me Remakes make sense when they improve upon the original. Carpenters "The Thing" is a great example. But Departed doesn't really achive in this regard.
My ratings...
Infernal Affairs: 9/10
The Departed: 7/10
Not only is this a bad opinion, it's objectively wrong. The Departed fleshes out all characters motivations, improves upon the themes, and simply does everything better (directing, acting, twists, ect). Infernal affairs is great but theres a reason its never brought up in best movies of the century lists like The Departed
@@rjmacready9828 American ignorance is the one that prevents Infernal Affairs for getting the credit it deserves. How many Westerners know much about Asian movies until recently? Tony Leung may not have fans overseas until Shang Chi, but he already has major audiences in Asia region, same as Andy Lau.
@@ivanlim3180 nah, not true at all. You will frequently see movies like Oldboy, Parasite, memories of murder, etc... but not IA and for good reason. Its a solid crime thriller but nothing more
@@rjmacready9828 Ha, those movies you mentioned are relatively new compared to Infernal Affairs, and Oldboy is not even an original story plot, but an adaptation from a Japanese manga. From the looks of Internet and RUclips trend, Asian movies and TV series only gained the attention of the West due to the rise of K-pop, especially after Squid Games premier.
Even Parasite won awards, the directors still faced racism comments from the West shows how ignorant Americans are towards foreign films from the Asian region.
Stephen Chow's Kung Fu Hustle also recently got attention from Western RUclipsrs, even though this film was already known in Asia for many years, and we watched the movie several times more during Chinese New Year.
Thanks to the Internet and shit movies from Hollywood recently helped more Westerners look out for foreign films, in time Asian films will dominate the market.
Actually, Infernal Affairs' ideas came from the film Face/Off, which is ironic. and also infernal affairs is way better than departed as it has its asian mysticism ('写意‘) instead of the american, more solid take.
Just saw Infernal Affairs. Found out it was a remake years after i went to see The departed. Not sure if they said that in the credits but in that case they should. When it comes to which one is better Infernal Affairs takes all the credit cause they made all the work mostly. I really like The Departed though. Love Nicholson there. Di Caprio is not fit for the role. Too soft. Although he s a great actor he was wrong cast. Someone like Tom Hardy would be a much better fit. And i prefer Infernal affairs s ending by far. Much more interesting. In the departed that last scene was unnecesary and kind of dumb. Just an audience pleaser "crime doesn t pay" type of thing.
The original IA ending just makes way more sense. Being a mole is torture. And the bad guy wins and gets to have more of that for his trouble. That is poetic.
The mainland ending and the departed are so lame compared to that. What's the point of everyone dying and going to jail. It doesn't tie the theme of the movie together
infernal affairs was the inspiration, was a very good movie. but the cast and director of the American version is one of a kind. the story and script of infernal affairs is what i think takes it
tony leungs eyes are better actors than everything hollywood can throw in lmao
For me, Mark Wahlberg makes The Departed a better film than Infernal Affairs.
This coming from an Asian dude who knows Marky Mark beat the crap out of Asian people in real life.
People who watch the Departed instead will never be able to fully appreciate the beauty of Infernal Affairs- the police and crime community of HK is not something an outsider can ever fully understand, the language and the slang are nothing when translated. when I watch the Departed, I find it super cringe and acting skills incomparable to the HK actors. It’s so ‘bro’.
^ this is what delusion looks like everyone. This man said the acting in a movie with Dicaprio, Damon, and Nicolson isnt as good as the original....
@rjmacready9828 Westerners would think that French cuisine is superior to Chinese cuisine. But I have eaten in so many French restaurants and they are not even on the same level as Chinese food. Same goes for movies. departed is just a simple American cop movie, but having a bunch of Hollywood stars doesn't make it a better movie.
@@juanlu3958 yeah but too bad its a better movie for other reasons besides acting like script, direction, drama, themes, etc... i've brought it up before and ill bring it up again because it seems like you guys have no rebuttal to this but theres a reason departed is regarded as one of the best movies of the century and IA isnt. Checkmate
@@rjmacready9828 academy prefers english speaking movies mate. Back then, if parasite (korean) was out, theres no way its gonna get the attention like today. Hong kong movies were only known by asian mostly in 2000s.
Also, buddism philosophies and the character development in IA are much more complicated and most will fly over americans' head 4sure when they didnt grow up in such a culture. If understand, you will see how deep the dialogue is.
@@kjdunjg2929 yeah but i didnt even bring up the academy. Critics are not partial to american cinema, yet the departed is often put on best of century lists. IA on the other hand.... 0. Literally 0.
Thats cute and all but departed is a properly layered movie and destroys IA from a thematic standpoint. No argument there. Once again IA is a solid crime drama but Departed is miles and miles ahead
Infernal affairs is a solid crime thriller, but you guys in the comments saying its better than the Departed are just delusional. Scorsese completely fleshed out all the characters and expanded on all themes, Departed is better its simply not close. One of the best remakes of all time
I think you can tell by the comments that many people disagree.
@@u2bst1nks yeah... and that my point. Theyre delusional because its just not true
There's is no truth here just preferences
Well IF does have a part 2 and 3 which “fleshes” out the characters. With that being said, there is nothing wrong with The Departed, but Scorsese not crediting the source material is blasphemous
@@igotseoul7744 he literally did though... he said it in his oscar speech and called asian cinema wonderful. Do your research my man