Batman Forever vs Batman & Robin
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- The Joel Schumacher-helmed Batman movies: some folks would say “the less said about them, the better…”
Neither film is exactly beloved, beyond connoisseurs of camp cinema anyway, though it would seem as though they’re consistently being reevaluated every time a new Batman film comes out. So why set up a Face Off between these two much-maligned sequels? Cause that’s the kind of thing we do around here - and besides, this writer hadn’t seen either movie in a very long time, so it would prove to be a rather interesting journey.
After Tim Burton vacated the director’s chair and moved into a producing role for the third installment, Warner Brothers brought in Joel Schumacher to take the reins on Batman Forever. Starring Val Kilmer as Bruce Wayne, Jim Carrey as the Riddler, Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face, Nicole Kidman as Dr. Chase Meridian, and Chris O’Donnell as Dick Grayson aka Robin. It was a massive success even with the mixed reviews, but it was more than enough to greenlight a sequel - Batman & Robin.
While O’Donnell returned as Robin, George Clooney took a crack at the cowl this time. The film also stars Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze, Uma Thurman as Poison Ivy, and Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl. Due to the unbearable campiness and more family-friendly approach, the film was widely panned and is the lowest-grossing live-action Batman film to date. It’s often cited as one of the worst films ever made.
That being said, how do Batman Forever and Batman & Robin really hold up after over two decades of constant mockery and derision? And, perhaps more importantly, which is the “better” movie? We’re gonna find out in this edition of… FACE OFF.
This episode of Face Off is written by Eric Walkuski, narrated by Shawn Knippelberg, and edited by Matthew Hacunda. But don’t let us have the final word - tell us in the comments which B-movie Bat flick is your pick! Batman Forever or Batman & Robin?
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Batman Forever, for sure. I'll bet my Bat Credit Card on it.
Never leave the cave without it.
Batman Forever was my favorite Batman movie when I was a kid and I still love it.
luis Luciano
Mine too, it was my first batman movie.
The hideout of Mr. Freeze where he was smoking a cigar took me right out of the movie.
Batman Forever. At least it tried to keep a balanced tone of darkness and camp and the neon lights where toned back. Batman and Robin didn’t even try to be dark and was so neon to the point of being nauseating.
The deleted scenes exploring Bruce’s trauma make the films intentions even better. With B&R Schumacher gave up on any kind of drama to the point he apologized to fans for the entire movie in the DVD commentary.
I just realized that Dr. Chase Meridian from Batman Forever is in the comics now
It’s ironic you’re so critical of Val Kilmer’s performance, because I’m pretty sure I heard Bob Kane did an interview and he said that of all the people who had portrayed Batman up until the time of the interview, Val Kilmer was as close to how they imagined him when he and Bill Finger wrote and developed the character.
On the Podcast Holy BatCast the host Andy Digenova put it best. "Batman Forever is like watching an orphanage burn down but watching Batman and Robin is like watching a clown college burn down. It's horrible but you can still get some amusement out of it" 😆
Batman and Robin vs Batman returns
cool ideea
It would be better if it was Batman Returns and Batman Forever
Batman Forever is a better movie and a better watch unless you just want to laugh the whole time then watch Batman And Robin
Batman and Robin is nothing more than toy commercial for shitty toys.
Batman Forever may have been slightly camp but still took itself seriously. Batman and Robin is nothing more than toy commercial for shitty toys.
Honestly Batman Forever was so much better in my opinion than Batman and Robin
Poison Ivy with Mr Freeze was stupid. Couldn't get 2 worse villains together with their agendas. Just a case of what villains are left.
Forever, especially for the soundtrack
Batman Forever is my favorite .
It's not even close Batman Forever all day
Batman Forever is a movie. R&R is a cartoon.
Batman Forever is better in almost every way except that its Two-Face is as bad or worse than pretty much everything in B&R, if you're able to just mostly ignore that it's not too damaging while if you really love comics/TAS Two-Face the films are probably equally bad.
Batman and Robin is Fun if you look at it, like a 60s Batman remake... It's one my favorites...
Batman Forever wins.
Okay, now to watch the video.
I'm surprised when you were going over the cast of the films you didn't mention Don the dragon Wilson in his big fight with Robin instead you mentioned Coolio ?
This video gave me chills.
cool face off
I love BOTH movies and i prefer them over TDK, TDKR and The Batman. I'm not afraid to say it!😄
I think than Batman Forever is 💯 times better than Batman & Robin, but for this I wish the #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut.
The "chicks dig the car" line just had to be recycled...
Batman Forever feels like an actual movie. Sure it’s goofy and corny, but it had plenty of heart and really made me care about Bruce Wayne as a character. Batman and Robin is fun for memes, but as an actual film, it just doesn’t feel like one. It feels like a Saturday morning cartoon come to life.
There's Only One Batman Just And his Adventures That Was It... That's All....
why did Clooney do that head shake constantly as Bruce?
too much nespresso
Batman Forever wasn't that bad but I personally think the Tim Burton Batman was 100 percent better The 1997 Batman and Robin well you could have had Adam West play Batman it had the same vibe
Batman forever was is, awesome. I don't care it's brings the 10 year old out on me. VERY fond memories. Love love love. 10/10.
Forever , wins forever
Wow, normally we have good movies on 'Face-Off' 😉
Anyway, still a worthy winner (out of this two).
I liked batman and robin more than batman forever
This is a hard one for me I love both of these movies. However I have to give it to Batman and Robin because bat nipples!
The Only Problem Is The WARNER BROS....
Ever since they got the right of DC, they completely destroyed them.
1. Fire Tim burton because of the backlash behind Batman returns even though the movie wasn’t for children anyway.
2. Cancelled bunch of dc hero movie such as Superman lives, Batman unchained, Batman continues ( Tim burton version of Batman forever,same plot as forever but have a same dark element as Batman returns ) batgirl, Robin ( spin off from Batman and robin )
3. Greedy for toys .
Clooney was a better Bruce than Kilmer.
#ReleasetheSchumacherCut
No way Batman and Robin is better because it had way better fight scenes and best of all we see batgirl for the first time and we got a cat fight so surprising sorry but Batman forever doesn’t match up to that also Clooney was a better Batman too he’ll always be one of my top favorites
both are garbage forever a bit less so but not by that much imo
Their BOTH bad
Both movies suck.