The White Dragon Complete Comic Book History | Peacemaker
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#Peacemaker #KeyIssues #WhiteDragon
So, you’re watching Peacemaker and you want more information about his father, The White Dragon. Well, I have the answers…mostly. The White Dragon is a difficult character to follow throughout the history of DC Comics as there are two different people who use the name simultaneously, but neither has an affiliation with the other and sometimes its hard to determine where one ends and the other begins; however, I will do my best to explain the origins and history of The White Dragon from James Gunn’s Peacemaker. 
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Do a video on Dora Milaje
Will you guys do more eternals vids?
Twitter is horrible
OK just so you know the far leftist is the real racist and of course you're going to ignore BLM burning down Walgreens
There was some contradictions in your video so I some questions.
Which dragon was sent to Bell Reave, William or Daniel?
Daniel's wound from Hawkman cleary wasn't lethal. So he more likely in The Fourth Reich not ever William?
a captain murder, captain swastika, and captain nazi being three different characters is so fucking funny
That whole sentence is funny
Maybe they could combine to form Captain Unoriginal Name!
@@ZigealFaust Captain Evil Nazi Man
That sentence in the video made me fucking laugh so hard
Comic book villains be wildin
I fucking love how James Gunn uses old and forgotten superheroes and Villains for his stuff I’m done seeing iron man and the avengers
Ironic considering how Iron Man and most of the Avengers were pretty B-C tier characters in the overall public view before the MCU started. But yeah, the characters Gunn uses are properly D tier unknowns to even comic fans.
Interesting character with a cool look and ugly history. I can't wait to see what James Gunn does with this character. Really loving Peacemaker so far.
I wrote off Cena before I even watched the movie, then I shut up and watched it. Cena killed that, I eagerly await each episode like a kid on a Saturday, back when we did that sort of thing lol. Peacemaker is just silly fun and I don't think they could have cast better for him or Vigilante. The whole cast so far is great, I didn't expect to like it as much as I do.
The world now is not ready for a deeply written racist character, but we'll see in 15 years, gunn just gonna write him off as comicaly evil and i guess that is for the best
@@mrfooledyaa5430 Cena is an entertainer, his acting has begun getting good at this point. Peacemaker is a good fit for him, and the writing makes it brilliant. I too wait like a child christmas eve for more episodes lmao.
@@thesneakyslothh5550 Funnily enough I never cared for John Cena as John Cena lol, his promos and general mic work was miles ahead of most performers, I just never cared for him overall. This has entirely lightened my view of him tho. The back and forth between him and Vigilante is priceless. See you in the comments!
@@mrfooledyaa5430 i feel that
I feel Peacemaker’s father being White dragon might be a nod to Peacemakers father being a nazi officer in one of the origins.
It was. Also, the Nazi father was dead early on in his life, but peacemaker saw/heard him in his head all the time. Basically b1tching about everything he did.
At least this way, we don't have to feel like peacemaker is completely pycho.
He was killed off instantly waste of a character because they wanted to
Lecture about politics.
@Part-Time Student of Sword Noobs
I personally feel like white dragon was just a caricature instead of a real person I feel like writers used the excuse that he's racist so they wont have to actually give him a character, I personally didn't feel
like peacemaker and his father's relationship meant anything
It was forced 1 dimensional
and I don't even know why he even
Became peacemaker to begin with
the show imo is absolute garbage and the writers were too blue pulled
To actually tell a engaging story
With subjects like racism
But discuss it in a intelligent
Way that isn't slapping people
In the face or making people
cringe and how it has a effect
on Peacemaker and his
dad's Relationship & how it
Shaped pacemaker into
a hero.
I'm not saying You have
to make the guy Sympathetic
I'm just saying He needs to be a actual character not a caricature
to beat the Audience over
the head That racism is bad
and how peacemaker has
"White guilt" I don't
Understand why this
Show is even liked
It's atrocious.
“Theres weak spots in his armor. Where the leather is” 100 percent foreshadowing. Have a feeling Peacemaker will be put in a position where he has to kill his dad. He wont want to and that will cause a friend of his to die by his dads hand triggering Peacemaker to do what needs to be done
I swear if he kills vigilante
I'm pretty sure Peacemaker realizes just how bad of a person his father is he wont have an issue killing him. Remember he thinks his dad is a good person just a conspiracy nut.
@@unclewaluigi8512 i hope not, vigilante rocks. I predict murn
This will be the only scene where his father will be proud if this happens
@@zakkmylde1712 no lmao he knows his father is a scumbag he always fucked with him and in the new episode peacemaker said he he should’ve killed him in his sleep when he was younger
Thank you for this vid, because I was absolutely not going to spend time researching this guy outside of this video.
FBI open up
This is why I prefer Marvel over DC. DC writers never researches their published history lore compared to Marvel writers do.
@@ladymecha8718 Except that's blatantly wrong.
@@Girder3 Joe mama
@@ladymecha8718 The MCU is the furthest thing away from comic accuracy LMAO wtf are you rambling about
Like Polka-dot man, I think this may be an attempt at fleshing out an old character that people don't remember very well or care about.
It seems like people see potential in the villain and want to give him a proper story, but with everything being about Nazis and race wars it's very hard to make a compelling narrative from it and every time they just kill him off and move on.
It would explain plot holes. Different authors have different ideas, and if the stories don't sell, they get canned.
Gunn is REALLY good at making obscure characters popular… he made GOTG super popular and nobody really cared for the iteration that much…. Same with Peacemaker Ratcatcher and Polkadot Man he’s really good at it…
@@chrisfelder7029 I think the Dceu should just make him as the overall creative director cause the only dceu projects that are well recieved are the ones he worked on, like I really enjoyed his suicide squad and peacemaker so far
@@lilricebowl9731 I think its more on james gun's part as he doesn't really like using well known established ip characters. but he really keen on working with unknown or less popular characters. so he would probably reject the idea of him being in charge for the whole dceu.
I feel like they had an oppertunity to make him a better villlian if instead of going down the nazi hole they had instead focused on just him hating black people because of the death of his pairents. Maybe make hime appear as a an almost decient human with one glaring flaw that he mostly tries to hide causing the readers to almost forget that he's a raciest just long enough before he starts with the murder.
You'd think, with all the white supremacy everywhere, that the vast majority of people would find a racist villain very relatable. And you'd be right. It's not compelling narrative that is lacking; it's balls.
It would be insane if the peacemaker white dragon actually has a dragon. I mean he has a pocket dimension armory so i think its not too farfetch he has one stored somewhere.
I like that Gunn went full comic book with the racist Neo nazi having a pocket dimension just for his guns and armor
I'm hoping he can transform into a dragon. Whole other kind of dangerous.
Aaaaaannnnnddd he's dead
There goes another great evil in the series
@@mfirdanhb at least there's eagly 😁
I summon the Blue eye white dragon
If he comes in riding on a dragon in peace maker I'm going to die laughing
In the promo for episode 7, we actually see that he can fly on his own
I can already tell peacemaker's white dragon is a better and easier to understand character without seeing the show.
It is since is a completely different guy from the other 2 in the comics. My only doubt is how does he get such high end technology. My only thought is that he has plenty resources from his clan but lives a "quiet life" to not arouse suspicion.
If Rick flagg was still alive in the Peacemaker series he would've ended this ''White dragon'' shit the moment he met Chris father face to face I just hope vigilante is the one to kill white dragon since Chris doesn't have the stone's to do it himself.. or does he ?
“White dragon” what a joke!
Chris Love his father I don't think he would try to kill him the new girl she told him that his father was bad guy and Chris said he was a good guy which we all know isn't true I think adrian try to kill Chris father but couldn't
I think the line from the previous episode about Peacemakers best friend killing his dad will come full circle with Eagley being the one to kill him.
@@WeekendWeakling good theory
Rick Flagg will be missed…
Funny story. When the armor in the show was first revealed, a site that makes models for 3d printing announced that they were working on making the armor. It didn't take long for the comments to tell them how bad of an idea that was, and after about an hour they said it was cancelled
Ngl, it looks really dope, but your gonna need to be black to wear it and not get beaten up
Yeah, I don't really understand that
That would’ve been funny
Noooo!!! Don't make armor for bad guy in show!!! He raycis!!!
@@iloveeveryone8611 yes, exactly that
I’d bet we see the literal dragon on Peacemaker, that seems like a very James Gunn thing
Imagine Eagly defeats an entire fucking dragon LMAO
It’d be a really cool connection if the “cow” that they’re looking for ends up being a white dragon
@@Watermelon_Man I can imagine some kaiju shit happening in a final clash lmao
Just an assumption for that literal white dragon he was riding in JSA number 4, but maybe it could have been a stolen genetic experiment from some other villain. Only a hunch, but it's better than nothing.
This is actually, great! The ambiguity allows for Gunn to have full freedom in fleshing out the character and provide robust development and more continuity in back story as related to Peacemaker. He's doing what he did with GOTG, taking obscure characters and making them great!!
Really hope you mean great as in a good villain but an awful person
@@AAmothan He means great as in an interesting and entertaining character
Niggaz just be having dragons outta nowhere
Robert Patrick plays this guy so well. He's probably one of my favorite villains in the DCEU so far. He's absolutely despicable and gives zero fucks whatsoever. T-1000, meet Klu Klux Klanitron 9000 🤣
I have a feeling Peacemaker might prove to be the clearest take on the character that will become the default.
I kind of like that dc takes the time to paint KKK members as atrocious villains. That’s being said I’m black and I can still appreciate how cool the costume is. It Looks like Kamen Rider. Never knew the Bronze Age was that political.
Yeah I don't see "white dragon" I see "white devil" very evocative and well designed.
You should really check out the Ostlander run of suicide squad if you like the political but not preachy slant of this type of stuff.
Yeah like hasn't been done a million times, while I do agree that The kkk are atrocious villains, but I really don't want them showing up in stuff like entertainment it just makes it cringe & annoying we get it those people are bad, we don't need to be slapped in the face for it
@@josephmatthews7698
Meh
@@elongatedmanforever1252You gotta get over it man. The KKK and Nazi's make excellent villains and as a result, have been a part of some of the best art ever created. Does the depiction of Nazi's in Schindlers list and lost ark also boil your britches? Sounds like you might need some soul searching if that's the case.
I don't get being offended by having a hate group in media unless you sympathize with that group. Even then at least here they are represented partially competent while in real life they are some of the dumbest manchildren to ever live.
So, does that make Peacemaker 1/4 metahuman? It'd explain why he survived some of the shit he's lived through.
Like William Heller, I don’t think his father has powers in the show.
Can you guys do a history vid on judo master?
I hate that thing🤣🤣🤣
KIAI!!!!!!!
@@imbasiclolvr4518 remember when he kicked your ass? 😂
@@mandolorian162 Remember when he fucked you up?
@@mandolorian162 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think all the different incarnations of the character comes down to artistic freedom. Different artists and writers has just chosen to put their own spin on the character without much consideration of what has come before. It happens in comics all the time.
Obviously that is the case, but as I’m trying to provide the comic book history of the character and it makes no sense within the universe, I’d be remiss to not mention it.
That's the issue with comics nowadays it really leads to nothing & everything gets retconned.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 I stopped reading comics during Hickmans Secret wars. I loved his New Avengers stuff but didn't particularly like what he did with Secret wars. After that comics has just gone downhill. I miss simple stories.
@@KeyIssues assuming you don't know that peacemaker season 2 will somehow be in the dceu and not the new one, they apparently what to continue both universe's
Key Issues you have a great channel. I love your power scaling videos & the few weapons/items videos the most. Keep it Up
Back then when comics made up stories where it can be interesting yet with multiple twists. I miss comics like these with creative storytelling. Cool to know James Gunn to give us this when he grew up with great storytelling.
It sucks we may never get an action figure of White Dragon because of his ties with racism, cause he does have a cool costume
if they make Red Skull figures, idk why they couldn't make one for White Dragon. That being said, I wouldn't buy either.
@@KeyIssues a white dragon one no, but a redskull figure would be cool
Bet they’ll release a figure called the *Black Mambo* tho 😂✌️
@@xrphoenix7194 Hey just because he's a nazi doesn't mean he's not a cool character to have a figure of. We don't only have figurines of good guys
@@randomnerd9088 that's true, like I said I would have a red skull figure, I would definitely have like a Darth vader or emperor figure, but this costume is a little too close to a klansman outfit in my opinion. I'm not entirely sure though
Great video. I'm loving everything about Peacemaker
DUDE I WAS LOOKING FOR A VIDEO FOR THIS GUY INSTANTLY WHEN I HEARD WHITE DRAGON🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry if this is off topic but I like to mention that there are two bloodsports. One was a. white supremacist and the other bloodsport was the original and both had to fight eachother to keep the name of bloodsport
I might have an explanation about the second White Dragon who joined the Fourth Reich. It's Ducannon. There was a bit where it seems like he may have sold his soul to Neron in exchange for what he most desires. Dunno know though. It is confusing.
SUCH a helpful video… thank you fr!
Happy to help out !
Such a cool costume, a shame its connected to such intense emotions. The character versions are interesting, it's wild to think someone went this kind of dark when thinking of motivations. It's a real life/ real world problem, so connecting those kind of stories to a character has got to be difficult.
It was the 80's. That was the prevailing trend at the time. "The darker, the better" is what comics culture was thinking during the period. That's why it's considered the start of the "dark age of comics".
It makes his character very 1 dimensional that they made it about real issues especially when it's more nuanced than people put in media
But people who have Echo chambers hate nuance and
Anything but the latter narrative
Where they control the conversation
So they have to make him a caricature.
White Dragon is based
@@ChadKing69
In the show he was just a embarrassing lol.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 Nah he was the most badass character
Pretty sure the Dragons are simply mechanical hover vehicles (specifically hover bikes imo).
With Marvel's The Falcon having A pet Falcon unsually intelligent was always supposed to be A remote device/Smart drone (U.A.D).
Pets in battles will constantly die or be unreliable.
Except Eagley. He's a MVP
Eagley literally exists
Falcon had a psychic connection with birds until the MCU. So no.
Falcon's bird was not always meant to be a drone. That's a recent change. Actual dragons also exist in the dc universe.
"There is no mention of the white dragon. It just appears" Sounds like the Thanos-copter in Marvel.
But a dragon must be a bigger deal. I like short unknown appearances like this lol
I believe thanos-copter literally appeared when he thought it up with the infinity gauntlet in the same issue.
Very interesting vlog! Love the peacemaker show
There should be a black dude who becomes Black Dragon and he just beats up racists.
Lol
I thought the same thing
Then he would have to beat up everyone lol
That's like making red skull a good guy. Still a racist character and race swapping would be a bad idea. White dragon also sound like a white supremacist name too
@@joshuabivens5825 "beating up racists bad"
8:04 lmao I can't they really got lazy with these names captain nazie sounds like a captain America villain lol
He's basically David Duke in a different costume.
Bronze Age was an interesting age indeed
Ngl love the helmits design and the color pallete is divine.
I absolutely despise Nazis, but I'll be damned if they don't have great fashion sense.
Same.
Thanks for this video/analysis.
Did Hawkman have nunchucks at one point!?! If so that's hilarious and very badass!
Wipeout from the William Hell section was really Bronze Tiger in disguise.
No wonder James Gunn took matters into his own hands, the original White Dragon and Vigilante from the comics were terrible
Oh yeah and the ad for Peacemaker actually popped up in this video
Love that motto today.
Yoour forgot some lore.
Peacmakers dad is dead in the comics, and a natzi, his dads death is what pushed him to be peacmaker.
So him bing used as the white dragon, while not lore accurate is lore friendly.
A lot of the peacemaker story is very random , I think that makes it original and interesting
He seems like the kind of villain you just love to hate so much. Has a cool outfit design tho.
Awesome suit for a villain, even cooler when it's damaged. Sucks why it looks that way tho
Well he definitely wouldn't be friends with deadshot in the dceu lol
Hey man really nice review thank you for sharing and your time.
His suit in ep 7 promo looks really good
I hope we get a flashback of some fucked up scenes with the White Dragon
Hear me out....maybe Peacemaker's dad is not his true dad? And he just has helmets from the real Peacemaker's dad, the original Peacemaker! That could be a good twist, zs the timeline matches very well.
And the guy we see him kill in the flashback is his real dad
@@mlpbahs That would be wild
White Dragon says to Peacemaker that he saw him born however.
@@ramonserna8089 you don't have to be someone's biological parent to see them born
@@geth7112 Good point
on point with episode 6
Awesome
Who is supplying this man with dragons?
Maybe dragons are just easier to find in the DC Universe I'm like your local animal control guy has to deal with Dragons all the time
It’s no coincidence that he goes by White Dragon similar to a KKK rank-Grand Dragon… 🤷♂️
I wonder why the (actual) dragon cares if humans are pale or dark?
Heller had more appearances in the early 90s in the Suicide Squad. He was part shadowy cabal of right wing rich guys who wanted to provoke a war with Russia or at least restart the cold war. This group was the villains of the last few years of the book but Heller only appeared in the Phoenix Gambit story where he employed Deadshot but kept trying to get him killed
Maybe take timeline continuity into account, like did dc rebirth events occur between deaths/ appearances?
The coolest looking suit in any live action superhero show
strongly disagree
Sounds like delusions
Quick question what if every actor had the power of the role they play like captain America the person who plays Captain America will have the powers of captain America and the powers of the human torch and etc. etc. what if actors had they powers in real life who will be the strongest on earth and shaggy won’t have his powers because he never played a character that had powers so no meme powers like shaggy ultra instinct like actors who play a powerful character what if they had the power to real life who will be the strongest
Dope Armor/costume.
Baroness Blitzkrieg. Now I've seen everything.
Never heard of white dragon but he looks pretty cool. I also like the actor that plays him in peacemaker.
He's the T1000
Thanks 🙏
Hey a question people please, who are the 3 guys with White Dragon and Captain Nazi in the comic image entry of "Justice Society:The Winds of War"
Are the butterflies in the comics or are they new?
There is nothing about the butterflies that I could find but I have a theory
@@KeyIssues could you cover it?
@@KeyIssues Apparently its an unused script that James Gunn had and never used. Im getting total Slither vibes from it so the butterfly thing could have been written around that time.
the "butterflies" are more likely H.I.V.E bees, judging by their parasitosis and drinking the yellow goo stuff which is actually honey
@@mr.knightthedetective7435 ooh that would be pretty cool!
The best show on HBO Max :D
White dragon new favorite dc character.
So, wait a second... Tucker Carlson is the White Dragon?!?!
Maybe Wight Dragon is the villain equivalent of Guardian. That is to say they are whoever the story needs them to be.
Captain Nazi joins The Klansman, Hatemonger and Crossbones in The league of "They're definitely badguys"
It's an overall flaw that's superheroes have that they refuse to kill despite their enemies wreaking so much harm and havoc that they would get the death penalty regardless of what jury oversaw them. It can be stated that in not acting to stop bad guys once and for all either by death or just chucking them into the phantom zone that they are directly responsible for all the lives. The bad guys take. The fact that they suffer someone like Captain Nazi to exist is ridiculous. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. I was bored
Yo that’s a crazy story
That suit is so cool in a vacuum but so inextricably linked to racism
It's like the German uniforms from World War II
The differing costumes are just different artists and lax editorial control. The timeline, powers, names, and other discrepancies are always explained away by the multiverse. As for the actual dragon... Hmmm... Hertz Rent A Dragon?
Think William Hell might end up being Peace Maker's "dead" brother?
Gunn is so damn comic accurate!
That suit and name are both cool as hell tho
🤢🤢🤢
Lowkey it is kinda fire for such a despicable racist villain
Yes
White dragon,get it now...
seems like a good dude to me ✊
Nazism aside, his costume is pretty looking not gonna lie.
Better than Captain Nazi's costume, he has broom brushes on shoulders. Oh and the swasitca's pretty bad too.
Most likely a crisis caused a reboot so dragon he was riding was apart of his actual second or third new origin
it'll be very controversial cosplaying as this character cause everything he stands for is too realistic
There are way better characters to cosplay. Idk why anyone would want to dress up as some rando racist super villain? I mean, cool costume but that's a nah from me, dawg.
@@Y0uKnowMyName the cool costume had me worried that some people would want to dress up like him. or give racist groups a character to look up too
I hope White dragon comes in riding a white dragon! That shit would be epic! Why the hell not do it?
So he actually have white dragon? Wow if we see that in peacemaker that woulf be dope
Hopefully we get a updated MCU tier list soon 🙏❤️
I just want to know the background of his technology.
Looks like Momotaros from Kamen Rider Den-O.
Interesting.
He obviously has a secret dragon breeder
Ha! Flocked. Nice
Eagley and The White Dragon are my fave characters so far in peacemaker 😎 vigilante maybe 3rd
Go back to school kid
Ngl the white dragon has a cool looking suit
Now watch The White Knight from Cyanide and Happiness!
im glad in the show they made the shoulder pads smaller they looked so stupid in the comics
I wonder is someone will be brave enough to cosplay him
This afternoon I hide one of Garricks remotes. He won’t find it for days or check this comment
Totally missed the implications of what *White Dragon* could be a metaphor of 😂✌️🇺🇸 TIL you said not-seas