Actually, Will Evans was mainly introduced so they could bring back Deadshot's backstory from the older universe. In the New 52, they created a new backstory for Deadshot where his family were killed by bullets that passed through the walls of their house because of some nearby violence and this is what inspired Floyd Lawton to never waste a bullet. Later they wanted to retcon this, but they actually did it in a pretty clever way by revealing that it was actually Will's backstory and that he told Floyd it while they were both in prison. Floyd then adopted the backstory as part of his mystique, since he didn't want to reveal too much about his actual history and family.
I don't know why, but I've honestly always liked the original Clock King. The design he only got for that single issue of Suicide Squad was really cool to me, and I really want to see a version of William Tockman meeting that style return as a Green Arrow villain.
I want (the real) Grant Morrison to write a Giant-Size Spectacular all about Savan just sitting on that landmine having a think about how his life went wrong :)
Sorry to be a killjoy, but Savant's DC wiki page says he somehow managed to escape this. He then refused an offer by Waller to make him the squad's leader, choosing to go free as long as he kept mum about the government's squad program. That seems to have worked out so far.
Speaking of Savant, I had someone tell me and oversell how important he was. Like going in about how he's so smart and clever, a popular Birds of Prey character, and is prominently known for being gay, so Gunn wouldn't kill him off in the first wave... I had to tell him, that using your common sense will tell you he's not that important for the movie, and that he won't deactivate the bomb in his head, or get help from his boyfriend, who we've never met, so he can join the Batgirl movie or something. He said "Wait, and see"... Cut to now, we saw, he was not happy lol. So Savant stepping on a landmine and is barely remembered since is the cherry on top for me.
@@Finamajig I would just love it if in an issue of Suicide Squad, or any book really, there's a scene going on in that same city. And in the background you can just see Savant, still stood there on that landmine all these years later.
Grant Morrison as a character inside a story they didn't write seems like the kind of hilarious nonsense I'd love to see in another James Gunn Suicide Squad movie.
@@loganchase1377 Na Morrison would be the writer, and Gunn would be the director/team leader. Morrison dies during the initial raid after writers block, which means Gunn loses direction and gets distracted too, then gets shot through his glasses leaving the rest of the Suicide Squad team stranded, and Waller has to send in C team to recue them.
@@somerandomname3124 or the two get killed by friendly fire, because they were arguing about a scene. Which warped reality in a way, that a grenade thrown by their team mates ends up hitting their head
Scream Queen was killed because she killed the target that Waller wanted to be brought back alive. Scream Queen ignored orders because their target was responsible for the death of her lover, Shimmer. So it wasn't for no reason, it was for disobeying her commands and costing the mission.
well, they keep getting thrown back in jail and they keep signing on so they can legally walk out, Harley especially has mastered the skill of not dying and getting out of jail scott free.
I hate how Harley Quinn is a constant member of the suicide squad now a days, because she is the only character who will always survive no matter what they are facing, I swear she has more plot armor than any other Batman character second to only the Joker
At this point, Drake, you should make your own custom merch ‘Drake Mug.’ You use so many mugs in all of your videos, you might as well capitalize on that motif.
Just curious, as a squad fan I always thought Rick Flagg was the longest running member? Reading them all back to back like you did was it really deadshot? Or do you not count Rick as a member?
That's a really tough question. I specifically did include administrators like Havana in this, but Rick is in the field a lot. I wouldn't consider him for something like a video like this, but I guess technically he is a member and the longest running at that.
Im not the one you asked but I have read lots of squad comics,and yeah rick flagg doesn't apper as much you would think,arguably deadshot and bronze tiger are more present in the squad(with deadshot gaining way more traction in the new 52 and forward)
@@riquepinheiro5171 ohhhhh that’s a good point. In terms of issues, DC ramped up SS comics almost x3 to promote the movies. In terms of just volume it may actually be harely and deadshot. I just think Rick has been associated with the team longer.
@@ComicDrake @rique pinheiro makes a good point. I actually think Rick has been associated with the team longer, but since DC ramped up how many SS comics there are since nu52 Deadshot and Harley may have appeared in more issues (excluding Waller of course)
A Suicide Squad made up of randomly resurrected one-time past squad members, brought back by magical maguffins that are never again mentioned, and die within the issue... and also cutting to find Savant still with his foot on the landmine
I feel like Dutchess/Lashina should be mentioned as well. She wasn't technically on a squad mission when she died, having hijacked the squad, but it was still in the book. I can understand not mentioning Flo or Briscoe/Sheba, who died in the same story, as they weren't costumed villains, just recurring squad support.
I liked Daniel West as Reverse Flash and while I'm not a fan of character deaths I do think his death was a good part of his arc. I would love to see them do more with him tbh.
It must be fun for the writers to come up with inconsequential, one-off villians and backstories. But it also makes sense that, in the crazy world of DC, that there are a wide variety of weird powers and lesser villians
Jon Ostrander is one of the greatest comics writers for me hands down. His runs on Suicide Squad, Spectre and Firestorm are absolutely legendary. I'd love to see you tackle some of his stuff sometime, maybe a video on how Spectre somehow takes place in the mainline DC Universe and Vertigo at the same time, or the best recurring character ever, Father Craemer
Favorite to die was Film Freak! I absolutely loved him in Will Pfeifer’s Catwoman run and was so happy to see him on the lineup when the new Squad book debuted. I figured he wouldn’t last long but was at least hoping we’d get a few more issues out of him before he was taken out.
This video actually couldn’t have come at a better time, since I was wondering if certain Squad mainstays like Harley or King Shark ever died in the comics. Kinda glad to see they hadn’t
Great video Drake just wanted to say a quick correction in the New 52 Lime was the first to die by head bomb. But the first actual head bomb death was in Raise The Flag the 2007 series by John Ostrander Puma a minor villain starts a riot at Belle Reve and attempts to negotiate with Amanda Waller to be let out of the prison which she responds that he has a “small explosive device inserted into the base of his skull.” Waller then responds that her pen is the detonator and tells him to let her guards go. Puma says Waller is talking crap and everyone knows the Squad uses arm bombs and not head bombs. She then pops his head like a balloon.
9:51 Checking out your backdrop, shout-out to the Bleach skull. Left elbow, diagnal to the Spiderman logo, creates a pyramid with the Batman logo.Totally unexpected, but a pleasant surprise to say the least. Loving the channel so far
It was a nice icing on the cake to see Ostrander have a cameo as the doctor that implants the bomb into Savant...oh right and nice video, drake.Good job.
I love the Ostrander run and am a fan of the concept/series as a whole. One of my favorite parts of the series is how it randomly spotlights characters you either completely forgot about or never knew of to begin with.
Same Ostrander and his wife Kim Yale added so much to these characters. Especially Deadshot considering how his entire personality and backstory from the miniseries they both wrote called Beginnings still has plot points that show up in the Suicide Squad animated films and when Deadshot appears in the Arkham games. Plus just his whole mentality and development as a character was really added by Ostrander and his wife.
I wouldn’t say Black Mask is a minor villain. More like a top tier B-lister with the potential to move to A if he ever reappears in a major live action role. He’s been a Batman staple for long enough and has steadily become more well known as time passes.
I feel the same. Mask is only B-List so far because he's new, but he's ambitious and ruthless enough that he could be a major player in a future run. As far as I know, the only reason he isn't one now is because he's so needlessly petty and cruel that he ends up shooting himself in the foot every time he has a good plan.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Black Mask has been around since 1985, unless of course you mean major live action appearances. What he truly needs right now aside from a more substantial on-screen adaptation is his own defining storyline like the Killing Joke or Long Halloween.
I think Black Mask is defin❤itely A-List status. Whenever we talk about the top Crimelords in Gotham's underworld, its almost always just between Penguin and Black Mask. Pretty sure Black Mask has been referenced and appeared in a lot more movies, shows, games than actual 'minor villains'. Shit, he's been way more involved and relevant in the comics in recent times than Two Face.
2016 Suicide Squad: “It’s just called ‘The Suicide Squad!’ It doesn’t actually have suicide or mass-death, it’s just ‘cause it’s about villains! You don’t actually take it literally!” 2021 Suicide Squad: “Actually, if you read the source material, yes, you’re supposed to take it 100% literally.”
If James Gunn gets to make another movie I hope he includes that writer character. Writer insert characters are common but in this case there are no limits on the jokes that could be done with it.
I would probably argue second best the original John Ostrander run from 1987 still holds up to this day. Especially when the team travels to Apokolips and the whole Phoenix Gambit storyline.
Huge Suicide Squad fan, so LOVED this video! Back in the 80's, when the Squad first came out, I found it seemed a very convenient way for DC to dust various one-shot minor-league villains, kinda like Marvel did with Scourge a few years earlier. Instead I found the comic gradually made a lot of the surviving villains into real fleshed-out characters, who I just absolutely fell in love with! *cough* DEADSHOT! *Cough, cough**
Random points: Shriek was actually named "Shrike"...Karma didn't have luck powers, but has the ability to mess with people subconciously so they always missed him in combat. Javelin before he was hit by the car, was impaled by one of his own javelins in that "War of The Gods" crossover with which killed Enforcer and The Writer
I love that run where Major Disaster, Killer Frost, etc. Were the "main" squaddies because they were the only survivors. And most of the plot centred around the management team behind the Suicide Squad, i think the dynamic would be great for some kind of X-com style game featuring the Squad.
"And while your down there..." 🤣🤣 I thought he was going to say something far more perverted than what he said 🤣🤣 love the videos bro! Keep 'em going I love how you break down comic related content in a way that is informative to both general comic viewers (just movies and maybe a comic or two) and people like me who are comic nerds through and through 😁
I was wondering if you would have wanted to count Waller's retconned original Task Force shown in Justice League vs Suicide Squad event (2017). It features Lobo, Emerald Empress, Johnny Sorrow, Cyclotron, and some others. I think one died at the end of the tie-in, but I'm not certain. Great video! I loved the work that went into this.
I remember hear from a friend that there was a suicide squad run where king shark only said “king shark is a shark,” only for, in his last issue to be killed with captain boomerang, he said something else
I’m confident a character named ‘Knockout’ dies in a mission Superboy went on with the squad. She died detonating an explosive belt around king sharks waist This was back when Superboy had a leather jacket and sunglasses and when Deadshot was white, so a while ago
Really loved Lime and Light and think that they should bring back Light since after she was supposedly killed, she was seen back with the team in the Resurrection Man comic that continued the crossover
Nice to see some love for the Tom Taylor 2019 series, really fun (the bit with Batman and Deadshot is SO good) and surprisingly emotional. Also, for my money Taylor writes the best Harley Quinn ever.
Not sure if anyone mentioned these deaths, but: * Karin Grace of the original suicide squad died during Millennium event * Briscoe, died with their helicopter Sheba * Javelin was impaled during War of the Gods (but i didnt know he showed up again later, thanks for that bit od info) * Modem, resident hacker of the squad also died * Havana, supposedly Amanda Waller's daughter also died * Voltaic, was killed off by Deadshot * Warrant, presumed dead * Hunky Punk, died in Suicide Squad vol.5 * Mad Dog, head blown off by Waller * Master Jailer, sacrifices himself to stop a nuke
I swear Savant did survive the land mine incident, pretty sure in like the next issue he got let out of prison after turning down an offer to become team leader
Conceptually, the suicide squad is an amazing idea. A bunch of random rogues gallery villains given the spotlight to either be killed off or gain new fame is such a cool premise.
How could you forget Master Jailer, Comic Drake? It was in the Squad/Aquaman crossover "Sink Atlantis" (he actually died in the Aquaman comic, but it was a Suicide Squad death nonetheless u.u), which, to this point, is the only actual Suicide Squad story I have read in my life, so that's why it's fresh in my mind XD. It was very similar to the death of a character in the latest film, right after doing a heroic act. Other than that, this was a great video! I can't imagine the time you spent reading 40 years worth of comics, so I really apreciate the effort!
Oh and part 2: The Squad was used to try and take down the mad god Eclipso. It was anothe bloodbath. Major Victory, Commader Steel Wildcat (Yolanda Montez), Manhunter (Mark Shaw) Dr.Midnight (Beth Chapel, the Creeper and Peacemaker (yes that Peacemaker!) all died though Creeper was resurrected pretty quickly, and Wildcat and Dr.Midnight also returned, though while they remember their deaths, I'm not sure how they returned, and Manhunter was revealed to have been actually Dumas, a shapeshifting enemy of the real Manhunter, who later died a few years later
I wonder how long it'll take for Deadshot to be brought back to life and how it'll be done... for some reason I'm thinking a clone with his memories and/or soul implanted in it.
Will you do the same with every Suicide Squad death from other media(Suicide Squad, The Suicide Squad, Batman: Assault on Arkham, Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, Arrow, etc.)?
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Actually, Will Evans was mainly introduced so they could bring back Deadshot's backstory from the older universe. In the New 52, they created a new backstory for Deadshot where his family were killed by bullets that passed through the walls of their house because of some nearby violence and this is what inspired Floyd Lawton to never waste a bullet. Later they wanted to retcon this, but they actually did it in a pretty clever way by revealing that it was actually Will's backstory and that he told Floyd it while they were both in prison. Floyd then adopted the backstory as part of his mystique, since he didn't want to reveal too much about his actual history and family.
That's actually really cool. The way to retcon, I mean.
I can definitelt see it being partly an homage to Smith's take but this also makes sense
@@TitularHeroine it might of not been a retcon but just not reveal yet
"Oh no! We made him the punisher start thinking a way to retcon it!!"
I really loved the gimmick of "no character is safe, anyone could die at any time." It was really fresh and made the movie more intriguing!
Apart from harley
@@MicRed1962 Indeed. It would be better if _no one_ was off-limits.
@@MicRed1962 yeah everyone knew they wouldn’t kill harley and probably not bloodsport since they are the two most popular characters on the team atm
@@CasonB422 and they announced the peacemaker show before the movie came out
Next time they should have a cast where EVERYONE could die
I don't know why, but I've honestly always liked the original Clock King. The design he only got for that single issue of Suicide Squad was really cool to me, and I really want to see a version of William Tockman meeting that style return as a Green Arrow villain.
I've been thinking about making a cosplay helmet of either that iteration or the one from Batman The Brave and the Bold
@@Omega_Orion You should do it
He was one of my favorite villains to show up in Batman the Animated Series.
@@Dilligff yeah I think the Batman animated series may have painted my perception towards Clock King.
@@Omega_Orion brave and bold was my first experience with clock king
“That’s Suicide!”
“That’s…kind of our whole thing.”
I love that line. 😂
It’s a good line, but it’s no “What are we? Some kind of Suicide Squad?”
@@comixproviderftw_02 hey thats the name of the movie
@@comixproviderftw_02 that feels like one of those “He didn’t say that.” memes but it’s actually completely real, which makes me lose my mind
@@error-err-1016 Oh my gosh, they said the *name of the movie IN THE MOVIE!?!?*
Masterpiece for doing that, I won’t hear anything else.
@@master0fthearts894 they should've done what Invincible did and right when he was about to say Suicide Squad it cut to a title card
I like to imagine Savant is still sitting on that landmine to this day
Hes just built like an entire house around that landmine and is just chillin.
I want (the real) Grant Morrison to write a Giant-Size Spectacular all about Savan just sitting on that landmine having a think about how his life went wrong :)
And he’s got a super complicated way of getting food
@@Aperson-ry5xf He just has a really good ubereats rewards account
Sorry to be a killjoy, but Savant's DC wiki page says he somehow managed to escape this. He then refused an offer by Waller to make him the squad's leader, choosing to go free as long as he kept mum about the government's squad program. That seems to have worked out so far.
Speaking of Savant, I had someone tell me and oversell how important he was. Like going in about how he's so smart and clever, a popular Birds of Prey character, and is prominently known for being gay, so Gunn wouldn't kill him off in the first wave... I had to tell him, that using your common sense will tell you he's not that important for the movie, and that he won't deactivate the bomb in his head, or get help from his boyfriend, who we've never met, so he can join the Batgirl movie or something. He said "Wait, and see"...
Cut to now, we saw, he was not happy lol. So Savant stepping on a landmine and is barely remembered since is the cherry on top for me.
I’d like to imagine he’s still inexplicably standing on that landmine, unmoving
LMAO
Your friend need to put aside between Movie and Comic
Not that i say Comic is bad, but expect something like that? Bruh
@@Finamajig I would just love it if in an issue of Suicide Squad, or any book really, there's a scene going on in that same city. And in the background you can just see Savant, still stood there on that landmine all these years later.
@@mediabaron2416 They never acknowledge that he’s there but he’s in the background for like half the book
@@Finamajig Precisely.
7:48 "The rest of the team was killed in a similar fashion to Clock King, but they managed to survive" But people die when they are killed!
😂 Yay
Grant Morrison as a character inside a story they didn't write seems like the kind of hilarious nonsense I'd love to see in another James Gunn Suicide Squad movie.
just James Gunn as James Gunn dying in the first 10 minutes trying to think of a film idea
@@loganchase1377
Na Morrison would be the writer, and Gunn would be the director/team leader. Morrison dies during the initial raid after writers block, which means Gunn loses direction and gets distracted too, then gets shot through his glasses leaving the rest of the Suicide Squad team stranded, and Waller has to send in C team to recue them.
@@somerandomname3124 or the two get killed by friendly fire, because they were arguing about a scene. Which warped reality in a way, that a grenade thrown by their team mates ends up hitting their head
Watch him bring back Sean Gunn and use him for that bit.
Scream Queen was killed because she killed the target that Waller wanted to be brought back alive. Scream Queen ignored orders because their target was responsible for the death of her lover, Shimmer. So it wasn't for no reason, it was for disobeying her commands and costing the mission.
I love how Future Drake came in with a comically tiny mug as opposed to Present Drake's comically large mug.
for a team all about suicide missions, there are a surprising amount of reacuring suicide squad members
well, they keep getting thrown back in jail and they keep signing on so they can legally walk out, Harley especially has mastered the skill of not dying and getting out of jail scott free.
You can't kill the King Shark
It's comics dying is like an average Tuesday
I hate how Harley Quinn is a constant member of the suicide squad now a days, because she is the only character who will always survive no matter what they are facing, I swear she has more plot armor than any other Batman character second to only the Joker
This isn’t even out yet but it sounds like an amazing video idea
It is
This was posted before the video was out
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@@legomania2427 ik that's why i said it is
Can we just appreciate the fact he had to read SO MANY comic books just to make one video?
Incredible job. I wouldn't have so much patience XDD
He had to do it or else Waller activates the bomb in his head.
At this point, Drake, you should make your own custom merch ‘Drake Mug.’ You use so many mugs in all of your videos, you might as well capitalize on that motif.
Just curious, as a squad fan I always thought Rick Flagg was the longest running member? Reading them all back to back like you did was it really deadshot? Or do you not count Rick as a member?
That's a really tough question. I specifically did include administrators like Havana in this, but Rick is in the field a lot.
I wouldn't consider him for something like a video like this, but I guess technically he is a member and the longest running at that.
Im not the one you asked but I have read lots of squad comics,and yeah rick flagg doesn't apper as much you would think,arguably deadshot and bronze tiger are more present in the squad(with deadshot gaining way more traction in the new 52 and forward)
@@riquepinheiro5171 ohhhhh that’s a good point. In terms of issues, DC ramped up SS comics almost x3 to promote the movies. In terms of just volume it may actually be harely and deadshot. I just think Rick has been associated with the team longer.
@@ComicDrake @rique pinheiro makes a good point. I actually think Rick has been associated with the team longer, but since DC ramped up how many SS comics there are since nu52 Deadshot and Harley may have appeared in more issues (excluding Waller of course)
I think he didn't count him since he doesn't have a bomb in his brain like the other members
They should make a Suicide Squad made up of 90s characters who haven't left that era. Non are popular enough to return
I think several Wildstorm characters would fit that mold
A Suicide Squad made up of randomly resurrected one-time past squad members, brought back by magical maguffins that are never again mentioned, and die within the issue... and also cutting to find Savant still with his foot on the landmine
@@OhNoBohNo Red Hood & Two Face made a Squad that was made up of villians brought back to "life" by the Lazurus Resin
I would say 5 c list villains being sacrificed to get talon, is actually worth it, after all talon is a beast
Honestly I never like that bolt died in the first issue since I kinda liked his costume
Man, Drake must be like a walking library with how many books hes read/know about.
Which is why comic fan should subscribe to the channel. ;)
@@ComicDrake “Well now I’m not doing it.”
@@ComicDrake I think you missed the pilot of the suicide squad Briscoe, then again its debatable if he is actually a member.
I feel like Dutchess/Lashina should be mentioned as well. She wasn't technically on a squad mission when she died, having hijacked the squad, but it was still in the book. I can understand not mentioning Flo or Briscoe/Sheba, who died in the same story, as they weren't costumed villains, just recurring squad support.
I liked Daniel West as Reverse Flash and while I'm not a fan of character deaths I do think his death was a good part of his arc. I would love to see them do more with him tbh.
i could be mistaken, but didnt he survive his "death" in the suicide squad?
@@alexye456red Maybe he's like Eobard Thawne and serves as an anomaly in the universe, meaning he probably will come back from the dead.
Reagan being the direct cause of Darkseid almost destroying the world is so fitting
It must be fun for the writers to come up with inconsequential, one-off villians and backstories. But it also makes sense that, in the crazy world of DC, that there are a wide variety of weird powers and lesser villians
Jon Ostrander is one of the greatest comics writers for me hands down. His runs on Suicide Squad, Spectre and Firestorm are absolutely legendary. I'd love to see you tackle some of his stuff sometime, maybe a video on how Spectre somehow takes place in the mainline DC Universe and Vertigo at the same time, or the best recurring character ever, Father Craemer
Agree 100%. Loved Father Craemer, and Specter was a fantastic series (as was Suicide Squad ofc)
Some say Savant is still standing on that mine to this day.
Favorite to die was Film Freak! I absolutely loved him in Will Pfeifer’s Catwoman run and was so happy to see him on the lineup when the new Squad book debuted. I figured he wouldn’t last long but was at least hoping we’d get a few more issues out of him before he was taken out.
The amount of effort that it must have took to make this video is crazy, shows how dedicated u are to making content for us. Keep up the good work👌👌👌
Your commitment to your craft is insane!!! Props for this amazing video!!!
I love how he actually looks into things instead of just going off what he remembers.
Liking this one before I even watch it. Anyone who puts this much time and effort into a video deserves the like
This video actually couldn’t have come at a better time, since I was wondering if certain Squad mainstays like Harley or King Shark ever died in the comics. Kinda glad to see they hadn’t
didn't he say that Waller used the life serum on Harley?
Off topic, but I look forward to your inevitable Tim Drake video.
Yeah. Definitely. Please. 🙏
Holy shot! This is really well done and researched! You usually do great on your videos but this is really Really well done!
I can't take Him seriously with that Gigantic Cup he Drinking Coffee from.
2:03
Huh, Regan would ban Superheroes. They actually help the people.
Lets just be glad we never see saw Trump interact with DC's heroes
R.I.P ✝️.
Also congrats! Everyone forgets Grant was a member of the squad so congrats on getting that to
6:25 a comic writer being canon long enough to be written by another writer is beautifully meta
Great video Drake just wanted to say a quick correction in the New 52 Lime was the first to die by head bomb. But the first actual head bomb death was in Raise The Flag the 2007 series by John Ostrander Puma a minor villain starts a riot at Belle Reve and attempts to negotiate with Amanda Waller to be let out of the prison which she responds that he has a “small explosive device inserted into the base of his skull.” Waller then responds that her pen is the detonator and tells him to let her guards go. Puma says Waller is talking crap and everyone knows the Squad uses arm bombs and not head bombs. She then pops his head like a balloon.
9:51 Checking out your backdrop, shout-out to the Bleach skull. Left elbow, diagnal to the Spiderman logo, creates a pyramid with the Batman logo.Totally unexpected, but a pleasant surprise to say the least. Loving the channel so far
Unclear exactly why the Phantom Gentleman is on the Black Squad, because he doesn't... He doesn't have a bloody head, mate.
12:39 I like to think he did not die and is just there stepping on the mine fearing for his life to this day
nothing like a bloodbath to start the day
It was a nice icing on the cake to see Ostrander have a cameo as the doctor that implants the bomb into Savant...oh right and nice video, drake.Good job.
I love the Ostrander run and am a fan of the concept/series as a whole. One of my favorite parts of the series is how it randomly spotlights characters you either completely forgot about or never knew of to begin with.
Same Ostrander and his wife Kim Yale added so much to these characters. Especially Deadshot considering how his entire personality and backstory from the miniseries they both wrote called Beginnings still has plot points that show up in the Suicide Squad animated films and when Deadshot appears in the Arkham games.
Plus just his whole mentality and development as a character was really added by Ostrander and his wife.
"By a minor Batman villain" Stephanie Brown would be proud of that shade.
It's funny because it's true
I wouldn’t say Black Mask is a minor villain.
More like a top tier B-lister with the potential to move to A if he ever reappears in a major live action role.
He’s been a Batman staple for long enough and has steadily become more well known as time passes.
I feel the same. Mask is only B-List so far because he's new, but he's ambitious and ruthless enough that he could be a major player in a future run. As far as I know, the only reason he isn't one now is because he's so needlessly petty and cruel that he ends up shooting himself in the foot every time he has a good plan.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Black Mask has been around since 1985, unless of course you mean major live action appearances.
What he truly needs right now aside from a more substantial on-screen adaptation is his own defining storyline like the Killing Joke or Long Halloween.
@@CollegeBallYouknow Agreed
I think Black Mask is defin❤itely A-List status. Whenever we talk about the top Crimelords in Gotham's underworld, its almost always just between Penguin and Black Mask. Pretty sure Black Mask has been referenced and appeared in a lot more movies, shows, games than actual 'minor villains'. Shit, he's been way more involved and relevant in the comics in recent times than Two Face.
“I have been taking my health more seriously” he says after pouring a whole pot of coffee into a mug……
Favorite dead charecter: drake's sleep/ sanity after going through every single comic and having to deal with every discontinuity and all that gore.
Excellent run-down. Only thing I was wondering about was Cpt. Boomerang. Was he not in since the beginning like Deadshot? Loved ol' Digger.
I like to think it's just one suicide squad with the roster getting refilled as each member dies
2016 Suicide Squad: “It’s just called ‘The Suicide Squad!’ It doesn’t actually have suicide or mass-death, it’s just ‘cause it’s about villains! You don’t actually take it literally!”
2021 Suicide Squad: “Actually, if you read the source material, yes, you’re supposed to take it 100% literally.”
If James Gunn gets to make another movie I hope he includes that writer character. Writer insert characters are common but in this case there are no limits on the jokes that could be done with it.
Ahora dirigirá todo el universo
I didn't realize how much history the squad had it was truly fun to learn
That Tom Taylor run really was the best one XD
I would probably argue second best the original John Ostrander run from 1987 still holds up to this day. Especially when the team travels to Apokolips and the whole Phoenix Gambit storyline.
It was alright.
18:43 imo black mask isn't just a "minor batman villian" but it sucks how dead shot went out
Huge Suicide Squad fan, so LOVED this video! Back in the 80's, when the Squad first came out, I found it seemed a very convenient way for DC to dust various one-shot minor-league villains, kinda like Marvel did with Scourge a few years earlier. Instead I found the comic gradually made a lot of the surviving villains into real fleshed-out characters, who I just absolutely fell in love with! *cough* DEADSHOT! *Cough, cough**
I love your content! You are one of the few RUclipsrs I really get excited for, when they upload
Savant was in the next issue after stepping on the mine. He made it out and was released from Prison
There's such effort in this video thank you for putting so much effort into this and I'm happy you git a sponsor for it
Stopped reading comics almost 20 years ago, but listing every death in suicide squad comics?
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props to you for carrying that cup the entire time
Dead shot has such a high kill count of squad members
19:17, to be fair, it was a talon. Those things are awesome
Took me almost a minute to realize the size of his mug..
And I didn't notice until I read your comment.....Its also very possible Drake is just tiny. Actually more likely.
13:53 this is f#€×ing hilarious and dark. I now have 13% more respect for captain boomerang
Random points: Shriek was actually named "Shrike"...Karma didn't have luck powers, but has the ability to mess with people subconciously so they always missed him in combat. Javelin before he was hit by the car, was impaled by one of his own javelins in that "War of The Gods" crossover with which killed Enforcer and The Writer
It’s not a death, but I thought it was hilarious when Reverse Flash blew out his knee in the New 52 Suicide Squad run 💜
Icing on the cake was Deadshot complaining to Waller for giving him a defective Flash
I love that run where Major Disaster, Killer Frost, etc. Were the "main" squaddies because they were the only survivors. And most of the plot centred around the management team behind the Suicide Squad, i think the dynamic would be great for some kind of X-com style game featuring the Squad.
“Contrary to popular belief the weasel is not a mutant animal or anything he was just a guy in a fur suit”
So you telling me they have a furry as a villain
16:23 Question: What is the gentleman ghost doing in the suicide squad, since he is already dead?
Ok, but the idea of a character that can bring their tattoos to life is such a cool superpower
Somehow a video that would make more sense is: All the characters who survived the Suicide Squad
Actually, Savant was shown to be alive and be left the Squad in issue eight of the New 52 run.
Is he still standing on that landmine?
"And while your down there..." 🤣🤣 I thought he was going to say something far more perverted than what he said 🤣🤣 love the videos bro! Keep 'em going I love how you break down comic related content in a way that is informative to both general comic viewers (just movies and maybe a comic or two) and people like me who are comic nerds through and through 😁
How has no one on the suicide squad died from suicide???
I fill my XCOM runs with villain names so I can run my own Suicide Squad. I may have taken the wrong lesson from the comic
I was wondering if you would have wanted to count Waller's retconned original Task Force shown in Justice League vs Suicide Squad event (2017). It features Lobo, Emerald Empress, Johnny Sorrow, Cyclotron, and some others. I think one died at the end of the tie-in, but I'm not certain.
Great video! I loved the work that went into this.
I remember hear from a friend that there was a suicide squad run where king shark only said “king shark is a shark,” only for, in his last issue to be killed with captain boomerang, he said something else
I’m confident a character named ‘Knockout’ dies in a mission Superboy went on with the squad. She died detonating an explosive belt around king sharks waist
This was back when Superboy had a leather jacket and sunglasses and when Deadshot was white, so a while ago
12:35 some say the mine didn't work but Savant hasn't moved until this very day, ooh, spooky...
Keep it up on your work and this channel
Really loved Lime and Light and think that they should bring back Light since after she was supposedly killed, she was seen back with the team in the Resurrection Man comic that continued the crossover
love your channel dude, great video!
Hey Drake in the newest issue of the Suicide squad Branch was killed by Ultraman, Love your channel
That was released after I filmed the video.
@@ComicDrake oh ok
bolt wasn’t created for that issue, he’s a blue devil villain and he survived that
Nice to see some love for the Tom Taylor 2019 series, really fun (the bit with Batman and Deadshot is SO good) and surprisingly emotional. Also, for my money Taylor writes the best Harley Quinn ever.
0:01 my guy drake needed the whole pot of coffee
Savant didn´t die because of the landmine, in later issues he just appears as a member of the squad and later gets granted his freedom by waller
I'm surprised that cloning hasn't been an explanation for seemingly dead characters being brought back.
Not sure if anyone mentioned these deaths, but:
* Karin Grace of the original suicide squad died during Millennium event
* Briscoe, died with their helicopter Sheba
* Javelin was impaled during War of the Gods (but i didnt know he showed up again later, thanks for that bit od info)
* Modem, resident hacker of the squad also died
* Havana, supposedly Amanda Waller's daughter also died
* Voltaic, was killed off by Deadshot
* Warrant, presumed dead
* Hunky Punk, died in Suicide Squad vol.5
* Mad Dog, head blown off by Waller
* Master Jailer, sacrifices himself to stop a nuke
I actually know Ragdoll from 'The Batman' animated series, not the greatest villain, but he was big enough to get added to one of the TV shows.
I never realized how "comic book-y" alot of character's names sound.
I swear Savant did survive the land mine incident, pretty sure in like the next issue he got let out of prison after turning down an offer to become team leader
Sorry but I LOVE the giant cup but having a really tiny one for the forgotten comments you recapped
Conceptually, the suicide squad is an amazing idea. A bunch of random rogues gallery villains given the spotlight to either be killed off or gain new fame is such a cool premise.
Magpie's death hurt me so much
How could you forget Master Jailer, Comic Drake? It was in the Squad/Aquaman crossover "Sink Atlantis" (he actually died in the Aquaman comic, but it was a Suicide Squad death nonetheless u.u), which, to this point, is the only actual Suicide Squad story I have read in my life, so that's why it's fresh in my mind XD. It was very similar to the death of a character in the latest film, right after doing a heroic act. Other than that, this was a great video! I can't imagine the time you spent reading 40 years worth of comics, so I really apreciate the effort!
Haven’t even watched the video yet, but for this much effort I gotta comment to boost ya
Oh and part 2: The Squad was used to try and take down the mad god Eclipso. It was anothe bloodbath. Major Victory, Commader Steel Wildcat (Yolanda Montez), Manhunter (Mark Shaw) Dr.Midnight (Beth Chapel, the Creeper and Peacemaker (yes that Peacemaker!) all died though Creeper was resurrected pretty quickly, and Wildcat and Dr.Midnight also returned, though while they remember their deaths, I'm not sure how they returned, and Manhunter was revealed to have been actually Dumas, a shapeshifting enemy of the real Manhunter, who later died a few years later
I wonder how long it'll take for Deadshot to be brought back to life and how it'll be done... for some reason I'm thinking a clone with his memories and/or soul implanted in it.
Will you do the same with every Suicide Squad death from other media(Suicide Squad, The Suicide Squad, Batman: Assault on Arkham, Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay, Arrow, etc.)?
Drake has a giant mug and Drake from the future has a tiny mug. Did you get mugged for your mug, Drake?