Aprilia Tuareg 660, Regretting my Tenere 700?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2023
- Quick Ride Episode 1
Complete series: • Quick Rides
Acceleration test I did with the Tuareg: • Aprilia Tuareg 660 is ...
My Tuareg 660 playlist: • Aprilia Tuareg 660
Thank you Kaasari for providing the test bike: www.kaasari.fi
CORRECTION: Because I'm a .. moron.. I have converted height to my video directly to FT!!.. I'm actually 5 ft 8.5" (174cm). So all the heights mentioned in the video are only correct in the metric system (cm).
This is NOT a sponsored video. I freely speak my mind about the bike and there was no requirement to mention the company.
A few thoughts before you bash me in the comments. This was just a quick ride and my first impressions on the Aprilia Tuareg 660 so anything I talk on the video is just me trying to feel the bike out on this short ride so very unscientific.
I did the same test ride TWICE so that I could try and feel if I found the same things to be true on both runs and here are my thoughts:
The bike feels extremely light coming from a Tenere 700 owner. It feels very nimble and easy to handle. It clearly wears it's weight lower than the Tenere 700 does and it is a huge benefit especially off the pavement. The Tuareg also is much narrower between the riders legs so it is way easier to reach the ground on the stock bike compared to the Tenere. This is also assisted by the slightly lower seat height of the stock Tuareg compared to the stock Tenere. With all this Aprilia still managed to keep the same excellent ground clearance as the Yamaha. All this could potentially offer me a better experience doing harder offroad sections as I could manage the bike better stopping on ruts and tough spots. Tenere tends to go down very easily as there is no stopping the bike after it starts going down on a tough spot. I assume the Aprilia is easier to lift after it's been downed which has been a problem of mine with the Tenere.
Both bikes are such a joy to ride and anyone who owns either one is lucky to do so.
Acceleration test I did with the Tuareg: • Aprilia Tuareg 660 is ...
Full Tuareg 660 playlist: • Aprilia Tuareg 660
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I liked the review because it is mostly neutral, without favoring any motorcycle. When a T7 owner with a lot of miles says he is impressed with the Tuareg, that's a great compliment to Aprilia and tells me they did a great job. I was thinking about which motorcycle to buy for a year. My list included Yamaha T7, KTM 890, Aprilia Tuareg 660, and Honda Transalp 750. The choice fell on the Tuareg because it gives the most for the money invested. I sold my BMW 1200 GS Adventure (2011) and Kawasaki KLE 500 to buy the Aprilia Tuareg with full equipment and put a lot of additional equipment on it. I'm not into any heavy off-road or world travel. I would have to have two bikes for something like that. The Tuareg covers enough of both worlds for me, and it doesn't cost too much.
As for breakdowns, I followed the situation before I bought it and I can only say one important thing. Aprilia, like many other Italian manufacturers, has problems with quality control. Tightening screws, poor sealing of the water pump seal, fuel sensor, and some other minor things that I can't remember right now. Since I have a 2023 model, I don't have a problem with the water pump seal, and I solved other things preventively so they wouldn't surprise me because I was too lazy to check. I've done about 7,000 km and haven't had a single breakdown, and I'm not sparing it because it's under warranty. If something is going to break, let it break in those first two years while the warranty is in effect.
For all those who are worried about the reliability of a motorcycle that would leave you on the road, those are a bit exaggerated and inflated by people who heard it from others. You have to be the owner of the motorcycle and ride some miles with it to be able to honestly and realistically comment on something about it. Everything else is an opinion, and everyone has an opinion today.
Great comment! Pinned 🙂I do try to be a 100% honest on my test ride videos but still I'm just speaking out my A$$ about how the bike feels on a short ride. Owners long term perspective is always more valuable so thanks again 🤗
So refreshing to see someone willing to give an honest review despite their investment in something other than what they’re reviewing. Bravo, mate!
Thanks! 😊 Aprilia made a fantastic bike!
I don't think a midweight adv is the right bike for road touring and light gravel road use... But if that is what you're gonna do, then the bike with cruise control and the quickshifter and the comfy seat should win.
@@colinbowman8816 What do you recommend? My previous bike was an Africa Twin Adventure Sports ES 1100. While it was rock solid on the highways, I prefer the Tuareg in literally every other situation below 75MPH. Twisties, urban, gravel roads and certainly off-road - even loaded with a week's camping gear - The Tuareg is superior, IMO, considering the difference in price especially.
@@LyonsLeo As always, the answer is "it depends" on exactly how much of each surface you do, and how much distance you want to cover. But if you aren't going into the woods and using it like a dirt-bike, I would say, you don't need the suspension travel, ground clearance, or 18/21 wheelset. So you can get a better handling bike on the road with 17" wheels. something more comfortable sitting at highway speed. Could be a slightly used Multistrada, GS, scrambler etc.
If the Tuareg 660 was made by either of the big four from Japan (and the reliability that comes with that) - it would have been the adv bike of the decade. It's better than the T7 in every way besides not being a Yamaha. Am I saying the Tuareg is unreliable? Nope, but I've heard about enough things to know it isn't as reliable as the T7.
Great video my friend!
Thanks! 🙂 Hard to beat the Japanese for sure. It is pretty high on my list of things too but I must admit that I am tempted on the Aprilia.
My 2017 KLR had electrical issues and on several occasions would just die and not restart. I could never figure it out. Only issue with my T660 after 2k is a fuel leak at the fuel pump at mile 20 or so and it was easy fix (others have had same issue). I get the feeling my T660 will be very reliable.
@@philipbarton2634 :D My AFrica Twin 1100 had so many troubles with electronics you would not believe! Sold it and bough T7. Sold that too ( top heavy and too heavy for offroad). Now im looking for TUAREG. With T7 no reliability issues at all, but it was blant
Reliability is the only thing stopping me from buying the Tuareg! Seen a lot of reports of people having electrical issues,oil leaks and fuel sensor/leaks ☹️
Im glad there doesnt seem to be aprilia dealers here in nova Scotia canada
Tank on the Tuareg is designed differently from the Tenere. It´s tilted downwards underneath the seat, which contributes to the all over feel of the bike being less top heavy that the Tenere 700.
Thank you, it was a straightforward and understandable review. Like the vast majority, you give a positive image of the Tuareg. I have been struggling with choosing a motorcycle in this segment, the Suzuki v-strom 800 was at the top of my list until I discovered the Aplillia. Now I think the winter prices are about to bottom out and I intend to try to buy a Tuareg tomorrow and sell a Triumph this spring.
I would go for the Tuareg but I dont have any long term experience with it myself.
I might swap the Tenere for it next year too… we shall see 😅
@@PatchedBandit
Well...I just made the call 5 minutes ago😱, at a very decent winter price I believe. Wish me luck for reliability and durability 😁
With both thumbs 👍👍🤓
Awesome review, Congrats man 🤙🏾👏🏾 and funny thing, just had to share , once I’ve heard you say “ I wish I’ve try this bike before I bought the T7” 😅 cause that’s what I’ve done today, wooop wooop yes lucky me had the chance to try both and totally agree with you, we can’t even compare both actually 😆 the Tuareg it’s just an awesome bike, it’s smooth but it can be aggressive as well, and for me and mine 1,75 cm 😅 it makes me feel much more safe driving off-road and ofcourse on road cause of traffic and all …anyways, thanks for the amazing review, it felt great to see this video just today, specially today that I’ve made also my choice on buying my Tuareg 660 🙌🏾🙌🏾💪🏽💪🏽 cheers mate 🙏🏾
congrats on the new bike purchase! It is a GREAT bike in my opinion too 🙌 might even swap my T7 for it next year too 😁
Excellente review. I like some kind of lazy low down rpm rides, which one would you advise for me?
Both of them fit that description well. I think other variables are going to be more important. Both of these have a very compliant and easy to ride engine.
What a great track to ride 🤩 You are in a comfortable ADV situation to have such tracks in front of your door.
About the handle bar. Loose some bolts and move the handle bar towards to you or a bit more to the front. The ends do raise or get lower, even without a dedicated raiser set.
That's true. It's always about trial and error trying to find the perfect position. As this was a test bike I had no time to test it out but the ergonomy of this bike felt very nice!
I tried the Aprilia for about 10 minutes and found it really comfortable in standing position and I'm quite a bit taller then you at 190 cm. Probably would buy it over a T7 but don't have space for any more bikes right now. It did make me want to try the RS 660 though. Same engine but totally different bike.
The taller handlebar setup probably helps a lot with taller riders! Thanks for the comment 🫡
That engine sound so great❤
One thing I will challenge is the more strict service intervals? Outside of valve checks twice as often, which I guess is signficant, everything else is similar.
Maintenance on the Taureg is also super easy, air filter access in 5 mins!
I've ridden both, and now own the Taureg. Your thoughts are spot on, glad you got to enjoy the italian princess!
Mostly speaking about the valve checks. Air filter is very easy on T7 also as it’s under the seat 😊
Wonder how tricky the valve checks are on the Tuareg 🤔
air filter on my T7 is 30 seconds
Air filter on transalp 750 is 2h
Looks good feels good... my thoughts too
Yep. Easy bike to like 🧐 T7 is still the better looking bike for me though.
I had similar impressions when I test rode a Tuareg. One thing you did not mention is the excessive heat oming from the CAT. It can be fixed with a different exhaust system but still needs to be mentioned. The elehpant in the room is the spotty dealer network and like you mentioned a relative unproven design vs the tried and true CP2. Nice impressions!
Good points! The heat issue didn’t come through in this short quite a fast test ride.
Totally understand your heat reaction, as fyi for other readers that has never bothered me at all.
It´s not the cat but the exhaust manifolds. You can fix this with heat protection tape in 5 minutes
Hi - great review. I am interested to start vlogging here in the UK. Your subtitles were very accurate. Do you use software to transcribe automatically? if so, can you share which programme you use, Many thanks
I actually fix them manually after the youtube automatic subtitles are available. I just go through the whole thing and fix all the problems the autosub system doesn't hear or understand.
It takes a bit of time but not too bad.. 30-60min per video.
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Thanks thats really helpful@@PatchedBandit
Just bought a T7 World Raid, installed a Healtech Quickshifter on it and a Kaoko throttle lock. Just liked the extra range and better suspension compared to the standard T7. Having owned a Moto Guzzi I have too much Italian reliability trauma, also a huge factor for me reading about all the 790/890/ Norden 901 issues.
Hi, I’m thinking about changing my KTM 1290 super adventure R for a T700 World raid, but the absence of cruise control is somehow a deal breaker... I read you have set a Kaoko throttle lock, are you happy with it? Does it do the job well?
I'm a bit confused with the echo of dealer support. I have owned many bikes, several new. I have never used the dealer once, outside of purchasing a bike. I buy everything online.
To keep the warranty on a new bike it usually is required to service the bike accordingly to the manual. In a brand specific shop so that's what I think dealers are mostly for after the purchase.
I like to do my own basic mainenance so having bikes serviced at dealers is not really something I even like to do. They usually do a piss poor job anyway as they are in a schedule. Doing it myself I know exactly how everything is and is supposed to be.
The requirement to take the bike to the dealer to keep your warranty coverage does not apply in the USA. However, if you do need warranty repairs having a dealer nearby is probably much easier to deal with. We recently bought 2 of these bikes and are in Wyoming where there is absolutely no dealers. So far we have no regrets, time will tell, and you can check our channel for updates as well as for some of the best accessories for the terrain in our area.
I love the Tuareg. As to your guess on the size of rider, I'm 5'7" (170.2 CM) with a 30" (76.2 CM) inseam and can reach the ground with the balls of my feet. I recently bought it and am still getting used to it as it's my first adventure bike, and street bike for that matter.
Very nice! Thanks for sharing! You got a good one that's for sure.
That is an awesome bike. I love my t7, but that aprilia fixes all the shortcomings and most every complaint I have of the t7, but has one massive shortcoming as I see it- Reliability, dealer network, and parts. Perhaps this isnt an issue in Europe, but here in the states it is.
True. Aprilia has a good coverage in some places but not globally like the big brands. I could go for Aprilia here in Finland and I am tempted as I would also like to report back to youtube how life with the bike is going long term.
Thanks for your review. Your enthusiasm shines through. Are you still "patched"? If so does this hamper your depth perception much?
Value your opinion on the bikes, and your English is perfect BTW.
Yes and yes.. but I have these specially made "prism" glasses now that help me retain stereo vision using both my eyes.
It doesn't fix the problem completely and nothing will but I have a surgery in 4 weeks that should make things easier going forward.
This and some other issues remain from the tumour but I'm in a good place now concidering everything 😁
I wish I had better access to bikes so I could do complete reviews but these 'quick rides' is the best I can do now 🙂
Thanks for watching and supporting!
Nice little review mate. I’m hoping my wife gets one of these next year. That way I get to have both because I definitely wanna keep my T7 😊
That sounds like a working marriage to me 😄 Great to see you in the comments too!
Been wathing your videos for quite some time now 😃
Thanks for your honest review. I have an excellent Aprilia dealer, rode a Rotax powered RSV Superbike for 4 years and 20,000 km and an Tuono 1100 V4 since 25,000 km. Very realiable (!), very intoxicating bikes. If the Tuareg 660 was lighter, it would be my next bike. As it stands, it is a much more modern and livelier experience than my old Transalp 600, but also heavier - and I want something a lot lighter. Cheers, Günter/Nürnberg (back from ACT Romania and Carpathian two wheels adventures on the venerable Honda)
Very true. 20kg off these bikes would make them extremely lively 😁 But that's a lot to ask..
@@PatchedBandit You never get it all in one bike ;-)
@@PatchedBandit You never get it all in one bike ;-)
Nice review! I have a question for you.. I assume you have the Aprilia factory heated grips installed. Would you recommend them? Thanks!
I think online reviews give them a unnecessarily bad reputation for not being warm enough. I have found them to be sufficient and at times even too warm at the highest setting.
I have had warmer ones on my GS but I find the aprilia ones are good enough.
My tenere had the KOSO third party grips and they were not as hot as the Aprilia factory ones.
Overall I’m happy I got them but if you need the warmest available ones oxfords might beat these.
@@PatchedBandit Thanks for the feedback!
Hyvä video 👌
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WOW SO GREAT , I rent the Tuareg on the Azores so great
On the low down power matter, speaking from experience on both; the slower technical riding on the T7 has a much better 'tractorbillity' in low rmp where the Taureg flames out quite easily. It's not necessarily a 3K rpm or lower pull to speed, it's about the linear power the bike can output under load at very slow speeds.
True. I cant say anything deeper than my ”but feel” on this short test ride as I also wrote in the description.
The bike feels awesome but deeper analysis needs a longer test for sure!
I wish I could own BOTH! 😂🤓
@@PatchedBandit don't we all. Great review!
I have ridden both and have to completely disagree, the t7 has a very on/off throttle down low. I have never heard of anyone complaining of flame outs on the taureg, 10mph in second gear, smooth acceleration for me. I've ridden several T7's, all had that on/off odd fueling down low.
My guess is you rode a '22 660, or one that hasn't had the ECU update. They are so smooth.
@@AdvBrewery I have owned both and put thousands of km on both, far more on the T7 (13,000+-) and again this relates very much to linear power over obstacles and less on a gravel/tar surface acceleration and my personal experience when riding in technical terrain. I have had the Euro 4 and now own the Euro 5 T7 and have not had any jerky throttle issues; there could be various contributors to that from rider ability (clutch control) to engine tuning variables ( we use 95 Ron fuel and 5700m above sea level).
It was a 2022 660, however that bike was smooth. Great bike overall just not as good as the T7 in that specific application.
@@PM-xm5ew I have the 2021 T7 and can't figure out what people are talking about when they say jerky throttle, I've never had an issue either.
100% accurate of an assessment…in the first 5min of this video.
A very fantastic machine
Fully agree 👌
The only issue I’ve had with my t660 is the heat the cat puts off I swapped it for a full system and I love it and the bike sounds so much better now before it was louder coming than going thanks to the awesome intake notes I do miss those sounds sometimes now because there muffled by the exhaust
How much lighter was the full system compared to the stock setup? And did you do any ECU tuning?
@@PatchedBandit I dont know the exact amount but I would day atleast half the weight or more. I got the dominator hp3 system it was the cheapest I could find I think it was around 500USD shipped and in my opinion sounds amazing. I talked with my dealer and they said it should need any ECU changes so I havent done any yet but I have a dna stage 2 airfilter and lid kit when I put that on im going to get it dyno tuned. Not to self promote in your coments but I made a quick litttle video on my channel doing a little soound comparison if your curious.
Is any warranty issues when you swapped the exhaust on tuareg?
@@TheQQRYQ80 my dealership told me it will still have the full warranty but if anything break’s related to the exhaust like if the valves burn up or things like that it’s not under warranty but if like the oil pump goes out it’s under warranty
@@TheQQRYQ80Cat is one of the faults with this bike, would have been better at the front, away from the waterpump seals,which fail as a result! Buy one,de-cat it!
where you drive in Finland is beautiful !!
I was tempted by this over the KTM 890 Adventure but the KTM has such a low CoG and excellent engine those won me over and away from GSAs and Africa Twins. Just sitting on the T7 was enough to show the top heavy nature plus tall seating that didn’t work for my at 5’8”.
890 A is an amazing bike. I probably have an upcoming test ride video about that bike too.
I wonder if 890 would even be easier to lift than T7 considering the weight is down low and I love that the 890 doesn't necessarily need any crashbars due to that tank design.
Weight of any adventurebike should be considered only after any of these 'necessary' add-ons are bolted in.
@@PatchedBandit Mine is the non R 2022 bike and a great deal persuaded me after a test ride that I didn’t want to end! Very good low speed handling and for my town riding essential. Skinny unlike the BMW or Honda and so easy to put exactly where you want it. I haven’t needed to pick it up but I’m certain it’s no problem. Fuel economy is superb. The seat (better on the 2023 bike) is hard which is the only major issue for me. Fixable and not a deal breaker. It needs lower pegs and bar risers for me to get the GSA style riding triangle which was the perfect set up but all I miss from the GSA.
Good luck!
Not my kind of bike, but after watching this I was wishing I was in Finland on a Gravel road, so Aprilia owe you a beer, nice job.
Thanks! That's nice to hear :) Finland doesn't have a lot of legal "hard offroad" but it has a LOT of these small little roads all over the forest so it's ideal for these mid size adventurebikes :)
When i got my Tenere WR 10 months and 10000 miles ago, my KTM dealership had a brand new KTM 890 R adv for sale for 1k less than the WR. I still went for the Tenere and i sleep much better at night. I actually just came back from a 5200km trip to Latvia and back and the big T was amazing. 0 issues, ate up anything i threw at it and put a smile on my face every single day of the 2 weeks i spent on every kind of road.
So here is the thing, when buying an ADV bike for travelling, reliability (for me) should be right up there before anything else, as whatever specs you have on a given bike, they're useless if they are unreliable and leave you stranded somewhere far away. The Tenere could do that, but you'd have a much MUCH lower chance of a failure vs competition.
KTM, BMW, Ducati and Aprilia have cracking bikes, if i was to buy a naked for my sunday rides, it'll defo be from them.
Fair point. Dealer network and parts availability is very important when traveling long trips ☺
what bike has better fuel economy consumption and range travel TUAREG or Tenere?
I've never looked into the consumption very much on either bike but the info online is:
Tenere 700 - 16-litre fuel tank gives 350km+ range
Tuareg 660 - 18 L tank capacity is good for 350-400ks
If I had to do a quessing game I would say the Tuareg with the 2L extra in the tank is gonna win the range test.
Good review! It was bound to be good bike wasn’t it? The T7 isn’t perfect and one’s you start upgrading suspension etc the price will be on par with the Tuareg. I do think the T7 is more brutal looking, it’s just such a no nonsense bike, and it feels so bloody sturdy.
The review has me interested enough to go and test one but I’m not likely to switch anytime soon.
In Finland Aprilia isn’t massively popular and I expect low second hand pricing. Also seeing that they now start from 17k you are starting to get close to adventure R territory.
Very good points. The pricepoint is not exactly affordable anymore especially the pricing for the season 2024.
Tenere is the better looking bike in my opinion too but that's a tough bar to beat as T7 is such a good looking machine :)
I have my doubts about switching too but I had no idea the test ride would put me in a place where I actually started thinking about it! That is a statement I didn''t think I would have to say :)
17k in Finland? Wow. I bought mine for 11k with quickshifter an centerstand.
@rudiruessel unfortunately everything cost more in Finland 😣
@@PatchedBandit i can buy one here in germany and bring it to you ;)
@rudiruessel we need to talk in spring 😄
The problem with that bike is the looks... And if compared with the T7... lol. But is a little more something than the T7 in every aspect, except the low rev band of the engine. And that could be important for the guys going in technical off road. Is much smoother power delivery, and from real low revs... Is not a thing of "3000rpms". Is coming from lower revs, put in throttle and the thing goes, and still, it has traction to go without any TC. That's something i really enjoy, and makes me put every of the Aprilia advantages in question over a T7. That and, again, the looks...
True. I wish I had better access to these machines to do a more in depth test but I don't have any better access than anyone else yet so I can't 🙂
I just post these quick test rides if I can manage to get my hands on some interesting bikes 🙂
I still love my T7.. can't imagine selling it at the moment at least.
Agree, I know looks are a personal thing but I can sit and stare at my T7 all day like it's an art work, just love the look as well as the feel when riding it, it just feels like a big version of my dirtbike. I'd probably park the Tuareg around the corner so I didn't have to look at it, it's like they've tried to be retro but just ended up with a bike that looks old ( again a personal opinion). I think the Tuareg is aimed more at the new ADV rider coming from road riding and the T7 more to the new ADV rider coming from dirtbikes, obviously both good bikes but very different.
You are comparing Aprilia Touareg and Yamaha tenere 700. But there is also the KTM 790 Adventure(2023-2024) made in China, how competitive is it compared to Aprilia and Yamaha?
Easiest comparison for me to make as I own the T7. Cant speak from much experience with those other bikes.
Before I have a t700 today I have Tuareg this is the best in this category
The tank under the saddle it changes the entire balance of the motorcycle it’s a bike it has nothing to do with it
Most that ride unbiased will surely admit it trumps the tenere 700...Nice review!
I try to be as honest and unbiased as I can here. Even though I own the T7 :)
I've owned almost all the brands at some point and time so I don't care about any brand loyality much :)
unbiased......exactly! I keep hearing "unreliable" but rarely actual examples. My dodge diesel truck has been in the shop 7 times since new. T660? Never.
It could be. But in my country there are many Tuareg´s standing in front of Aprilia service and waiting for repair, mostly electronics, no Teneré in front of Yamaha. Maybe I'm biased, I have a T7. But I wanted a Tuareg. Have a nice day everyone.
Sure they aren't just waiting normal service? Some workshops keep bikes outside and some take them in to 'wait for their turn'. Just a thought.
Tenere reliability reputation is hard to beat that's for sure 😊
I don’t think so mate sorry for your fantasies
The tuareg has been bullet proof. Sounds like a butt hurt t7 owner
All the guys I know with 660 had no issues so far , my brother has one a 22 model and it feels amazing and I say that as somebody who has owned 990’s, 1290’s, Honda’s . I like the yam but tube tyres for any street bike are a joke , suspension is the most cheap and nasty KYB and yes I have seen inside it and know the difference , Yam is a very basic and underdeveloped bike which does to live up to the hype , it’s a great looking budget bike and that’s all
@@orange1666 You're right and I think that was the design brief and why Yamaha have sold thousands of those bikes and they will become an iconic bike, That's the very reason I bought my T7, affordable, basic and just loves to be used and abused.
I do find the Tuareg interesting, and would opt for it over a T7. For me, the T7 was a bore, and its typical Japanese build/hardware had no garage appeal whatsoever. I sold that for an 890R and there's no looking back. Reliability be damned, the 890 is a hair-on-fire ride that can't be compared to anything out there.
Those boring/exciting scales are interesting as they vary so much from person to person. For me the T7 is the exciting probably due to the looks which i LOVE and the engine note especially with the HP corse titanium exhaust.
Makes me smile every ride :) But the 890R is definitely an exciting ride with all the power in the world! :D
I have a similar video about that bike coming in the channel too and I really liked it..
I mean, I think they’re apples and oranges. Each have their place the tenere is nowhere near as refined with the cruise control and such suspension, etc.
But not in the sence that these are probably the closest rivals on the adv market at the moment.
Are you going to buy it?
Probably not right now.. but I am tempted.. so.. That is usually a worrying sign 😅
yes Tuareg are interesting bike ;-) i like but better i think are is T7 ;-)
Fair enough! 😁 Both have their benefits 😊✌️
hello where is this place?
Himos, Finland
oh so nice🎉 I'm from Alanya, Turkey😉
@@Cheetah80 Great to have you here. I've been to Manavgat once ☺ Would love to do a motorcycle trip there some day.
@@PatchedBandit Yes, there are many beautiful routes around here too, but I am moving to Istanbul in June and will continue living there. There are Tet routes in Tekirdağ (Thrace), they are very nice, maybe we will meet there. ✌️😉
@@Cheetah80 Maybe! Next summer I have something longer in the planning stage..
Much as i love aprilia!
Reliability is not there!
So ill stick to conventional bikes rather Than husqvarna
Aprilia
Ktm
And ducati!
They are expensive to own and all my hobbies are expensive
Farming /tractors
Dj/Mixing toys
Outdoor / enduro bikes
Lol.
Way too many used bikes that are great and could be fitted with extra gear that could do Just as good of a job if not better!
Cb500x rally raid fitted front rear suspension.
Mod a xr650 upgraded
Dr650!
Klr650!
Drz400!
Or a moded dr350e moded with a bigger bore so that you get a 6th gear!
Aprilia is for rich kids!
There is much to be said for the older bikes but also the newer offerings are more sophisticated and better designed in many aspects.
Old bikes are great but I wouldn't want to travel with a carbureted bike anymore.
World is our oyster and we can all ride what we prefer. It's still a wonderful time to love internal combustion before we all ride electric :D
Or buy a first second generation transalp moded it with africa twin front and rear suspension and voila a machine that Will Last another 30/40 years without a penny on it let alone it sitting at the dealers to get mapped lol!
World is full of amazing older bike options too. But I love the fact that so many brands are trying to offer these mid size adventurebikes as it benefits all of us :) Tuareg has set the bar very high in the competition and I truly hope Yamaha will answer by fine tuning and upgrading the Tenere 700 for all of us to enjoy.
The reliability issues and high maintenance would put me off, who likes doing vave checks
To be fair many bikes on the market have the same of even more strict valve checks. I get that it is a valid point but still a lot of people choose to buy those bikes 😊 Tuareg's checks are not uncommonly frequent even though they are more frequent than let's say Tenere 700.
I haven't looked in to this but a good point to consider is also how hard are the valve checks to actually do. Some bikes it takes 30 minutes and others it takes hours 😊
try getting one repaired,, or order some parts,, its a nightmare,, shame because i like the bikes.
I have a close by dealer here that I mentioned in the beginning of the video and they seem to offer good service to clients. No idea about the parts availability though.
It's a shame if the dealer network is a problem in your location 😔
Smaller manufacturers will of course always have a tough time competing with the big boys but I have gotten some horrific service with the big name brands in the past so it's not always guaranteed with them either.
The T7 is and will be the best because it was created by Yamaha. If they had to, they would stuff it with extras, make it 120 horsepower, put tubeless tires on it, put the tank under the seat. Do it for dwarfs with weak hands. They can't build a junk engine, that's why everyone stole it. And the Italians are capable of a lot, but not quality. They make beautiful inflated junk.
Im gonna see about that and post updates on the Aprilia experience during the summer
T7 all day, every day! 😁
Thats fair 😁✌️
@@PatchedBandit nothing can beat the reliability of the T7. BTW, I have the T7 WR version and I love it.
Tuareg all day everyday
Looking at the Suzuki DE800 specialists,they've got the weight down, and is serious competition for both bike...and it's a Suzuki, uber reliable
Do you work at Aprilia 🤷😂
No. But its a great bike you should go and test one 😄 I had my doubts but after a couple of test rides.. I’m thinking about buying one for sure 🤔
@@PatchedBandit
I just kidding 😃
I have just bught a Tenere 700 2023 and im happy with that but the Aprilia looks really nice 👍
I own a T7 myself. Very similar bikes. T7 has its own strengths and weaknesses.
I’ve felt the T7 is ergonomically not the greatest fit for me but other than that its a great durable machine 🤙
Safe rides! 😊
Europeans are biased by Aprilia (bad) heritage....Let's see how it performs the next years (mileage)
Objectively this is an awesome bike. I bought one myself this spring as in my opionion tehcnically this is one if not the best 'midweight' on the market today.
Reliability is something we shall see but most people are not reporting any major issues. At least not anything more than the rivals like KTM.
Looks fun to ride, but it is beyond ugly in my eyes 😀
T7 is a better look for me too. Not ugly for me though 😄 But I used to own a 650 GS Sertao so I have no say 😂
Screen is my problem...something low and metal instead of a screen would look better, like I had on my Tracer 900....maybe S-Design will make one?
If you want to keep it for 2 years go for the aprilia if you are thinking 20 years go T7
Fair enough 😄 I should probably keep my T7 anyway as it has so many memories. But I can always have a third bike.. 😆
Why do you say that? What makes you think long term this won't be a good bike? I'm only asking because I'm thinking of selling my F750GS for a used 660
Funny, i have the opposite opinion. The tuareg has got nothing on the tenere. It's a toy in comparison. It's probably for people who can't ride a mc and need all the riding aids they can have. But it wasn't bad to ride though. But it's not for me at all. And then it's that little thing with all the problems it has.
Good that there is a bike for everyone 😉
I'm a month in on my T7, rode for 45 years .
Rode Enduro, trials etc and all sizes and types of bikes .
The T7 is a bike you could own and ride and enjoy but it also has its faults . I'm not interested in modes and modern tech on this review but I am interested in power to weight , how the weight is carried ,comfort , gearbox and brakes . All the above being good aren't pampering a rider .
What I like about the Tuareg is how easy it is to switch all the rider aids off with one button.
Tuareg has nothing on the Tenere? Best you enjoy your white goods
Modern bikes have fuel injection and drive by wire isn´t exactly high tech. So why downgrading to the past when it´s already there? Just switch it off and you can go retro...