Tuareg 660 is fun! I still have an 8 yo BMW R1200RS next to my new Aprilia Tuareg 660 in my garage. I can honestly say that i never got such a taste from any other bikes in my riding past. Congratulations with your new bike!
This is very useful, I have a 2018 R1200GS coming up to 90,000kms and I have been eyeing up a smaller replacement. I keep coming back to the Tuareg. I must ride one soon.
Hello! As a former Transalp fan and owner, I went into my test drive with great expectations and anticipation. And never came back so disappointed. It's clear to me that no one really wants to hear this and I've often been verbally hit in the face for it. But the Honda is nowhere near as good as it appears to be in the public eye. I'm far from your driving level, just good average, but even I noticed that the suspension elements are just cheap and not Honda-like. Just like the rest of the vehicle, it doesn't seem to be that valuable when you look at it more closely. The engine also doesn't fit in an adventure bike and you can tell that it was taken from a sports bike without being tuned differently for its new purpose. Equipment and price are right at first!! If you take a closer look, you'll quickly realize that it doesn't fit. No cruise control for money and good words, not even an outside temperature display, tubeless rims..etc..etc.. my utmost respect for your honest opinion and assessment that is based on pure facts and not embellished because you tested a press bike and would also like to receive an invitation to Honda next time when we go to Italy, Spain or Portugal. ;-) and another thing about Honda quality... I've already seen some videos on RUclips where the seat had an ugly crease, as did my Transalp test drive with less than 5000 km on the clock. But as I said, hardly anyone wants to hear or read that... ;-)
@@btgmoto Hello! You have to live with such prejudices when you buy an Italian motorcycle haha 😜😆 I bought a V85TT last year and it took me almost 4 years to free myself from such prejudices. I'm always asked whether the Guzzi is reliable... my biggest concerns have always been about the electronics. That was always the Italians' biggest weak point, never the mechanics and the engine. Moto Guzzi and Aprilia are part of the Piaggio Group, and many parts are identical, especially in the area of electronics. Therefore quite comparable to your Tuareg. Two motorcycle magazines in Italy and Germany sent the V85TT over 50,000 km each and both! had 0.0 problems with the electronics. The Tuareg is a fantastic motorcycle, better off-road than the much praised Yamaha T7. I'm very curious about your experiences with it... have fun with it 👍🏻👍🏻
Dale, you’re a legend . Remember you from the uk bike mag , whichever it was then joined Bridge to Gantry. Just bought a 30th edition MX5 RF so need another Ring sojourn.
Get the Arrows de-cat headers straight on,keep the heat away from the waterpump seals,passenger footrests ,replace with an exhaust hanger,LexTek can,and a custom mid section...lower the can, save your luggage...cheap, reliable and better looking! Good luck with the new wheels!
I've not actually noticed the heat yet, even when I was riding through Spain. But I do like the idea of a better sounding exhaust, and not having a massive heat trap next to the motor. Whichever can I buy needs to be properly e-marked though with papers, because Zis Izz Deutschlaaaaand
The Arrow De Cat makes little to no difference in heat dissipation… but it’s a great waste of money though. Can swap out?. For sure , not to loud though , you’ll piss off your neighbors and the Po Po… factory taller windscreen with a Amazon special wind deflector… perfect for highway droning… as for a rear rack… screw the grossly over priced “name brands” , Aliexpress special for $35.00. Same damn thing as the “name brands” but 1/10 the price…. Just a hardware upgrade (stainless steel) @ $10.00… ask me how I know… as for the lack of electronic gimmicks…you’ll never notice. And of course the Pirelli tire are crap for anything other than groomed dirt roads….
@@BERZERKER888 Talking B/S,like a lot of other clueless idiots on the Internet...put a blockage in a pipe,compared to a free flowing one,with the fuelling to suit,it no longer runs lean,and is cooler...that's a scientific FACT!
I really liked your video testing the Tuareg, it was a surprise. I had also tried it and had similar sensations although I am a much worse pilot than you! And you finally sold the GS! Maybe in a few months I'll make the same change. I only travel once a year and 8 days maximum, mainly Alps. I think I won't be wrong. 🤔
If you're just riding on road, and doing big distance, the GS is the ultimate. But if at any point, you think "this bike is too heavy"... then the Aprilia will satisfy!
Amazing video! I just bought a Tuareg, and so far I love it, coming from a 2008 VStrom 650. I also seriously considered the T7, Transalp, and the KTM 790/890. Regarding the Transalp I just didn’t see very much to get excited about, unless you really, really want a Honda, and regarding the KTMs I didn’t want all the drama that goes with these bikes (read FB owners pages to see what I mean). The quick shifter and cruise control on the Tuareg are amazing, never had these conveniences, and the IMU is something I don’t really need in an ADV bike. Looking forward to your next installment!
i understand you 1000% and you know what? i sold all my cars and bought ....DESERT X rally, 1250 GSA (already owned since last year) and a Voge 300 rally (i really love that one for hard trail) all of these with full off-road setup already done few TET section + hard stuff, spain desert etc I love that SOOO much.... you will never ever see me at the ring again, it is too much busy there trail bike is FREEDOM...
I've also been looking at the Voge too! We're definitely going to be hitting some more TET sections before the end of this year. A friend of mine is looking hard at the Kove 450 too. I love the 'Ring, but what was once freedom, is now a ball and a chain some days :(
It’s interesting to see that you made the same switch that I did. I understand your reasons for switching, but I might have to steal your video and make one of my own explaining my reasons.
I’m to on the edge of change , I’m on a 2021 gsa and now thinking they are just to big , to expensive, and now thinking of something just like you , around the 700/900 cc , great video and look forward to your next one , carl uk 🇬🇧
I think it comes down to % of time on % size of road. The one thing that I think the Tuareg does better than all the 890 KTM bikes (Husqvarna included) is that it can cruise at normal motorway speeds with no vibes. The Tiger is also OK for that.
So, ive been wanting a review of the Tuareg from an adult w/ ADV riding experience. BMW's R 1250 GS is prolly 'top 'O the heap' ADV, so - I expected more grumbling/griping. But, 2 minutes into the dirt & you sounded comfortable? Lots of gimcracks & geegaws on the Aprilia, but it seems pretty capable & much lighter & smaller (van). Glad you felt both confident & competent getting acquainted! I will follow in the hopes that it holds up well over time! (Selfish of me- I have its sister, the Tuono 660 Factory!) So, good luck to us both!
I will be publishing an update soon, just crossed the 1000km mark on the new Tuareg, had my first warranty job completed, and still loving it! Thanks for commenting!
That looks like an amazing TET section. Traded in my ‘14 R1200GSA for a new T7 World Raid. I had enough Italian reliability trauma with my Moto Guzzi before the GS. Same reason I didn’t go the KTM / Husqy route, plus they were noticeably too small for my 1.90 meter frame. The T7 WR fits my tall body perfectly.
Wow! That's amazing! I know a lot of Hondas are built in Thailand, I think the Transalp is one of them. Are tax rates really high on 'big' motorcycles?
Went from a Sertao to a 1200GS to a Fantic Cabellero and the grin factor is definitely with the last one. Not much travel but did 3 French and Belgium tours, definitely Spain next.
I spotted your link to the 660 and was a few minutes in sub'd and notifications on. Really enjoyed vid scenery but actually looking for how to deck one out for multi day rides in countryside (just like your video depics) and would appreciate videos of any mods, tyre selection (80 / 20), racks, luggage etc. recommendations. Looking forward to following your journeys with the Aprilia Tuareg 660. I haven't pulled the trigger to buy just yet but very close. Keep up the great work Dale & Co.
Thanks! I'm only just inside the first 1100kms with this bike, but I will be filming an update soon with some of the basic mods. I'm hoping to try some new tyres as well.
I had a Tenere, it was a great bike but I decided I wanted a change and test rode quite a few bikes including the Aprilia but ended up buying a 1250gs (shaft drive and keyless sealed it 😂). I have to say I really liked the Tuareg, it was pretty solid at decent speed with the cruise on and I almost went for it. Have done a couple of long trips and love the gs for eating the miles, so easy. I won't discount another middleweight in the future and Interested to see how you get on with the Tuareg long term.
Good vid. I like your presenting style. I've had an eye on the Tuareg since it came out but bought a Tiger 1200 to accompany my KTM350 excf. The Tiger is great for getting to places but only good for easy, dry trails at my skill level. The KTM is brilliant fun on trails and flatters my riding but I never go anywhere interesting because I don't have a trailer/van. Maybe the Tuareg is the best of both worlds...
I've been there, back when I had a little XR. The Tuareg can do the connections that just take way too long on a proper Enduro bike. It's exactly half way between a real off-road bike, and something like a GS or Tiger. As with everything, comprises must be made. (Disclaimer: I now daily a van instead of a car, and bike life is better for that compromise. I'm just going to the supermarket now, where I will have to park a mile from the doors, thus giving me more exercise and improving my performance further! LOL )
Nice vid! As a starting bike journalist I reached out to Piaggio and asked them if I could do a review of the Tuono 1100. Instead I got to take the Tuareg 660 out for a week to the Eifel and the black forrest in Germany. Not a bike I would have picked out based on the spec sheet, but the bike did not disappoint in any field. Kept up with the sporty bikes on the B500 just on midrange torque, has more (and better) electronic aids than any other midsize dual sport. Handles like a bike with a 21 inch front wheel has no right to. As stable as a warship on the highway and quite agile (steering is a bit slow though) in the twisties. Was not allowed to take it off-road or on to the Nürnberg ring, as stated in the contract. Grip for days from the OEM tires. Comfy enough for all day stints (even for my 52 year old back and butt). I had the quick shifter option too, so it was kind of perfect. In my review I made the comparison to the GS, which makes no sense on paper, but strangely does after having ridden both. Like you said, there are quite some incredible deals to be found on the outgoing models.
I can see why you didn't go for the Transalp - like you said, it looks budget, and the suspension is basic and no tubeless wheels. I loved the Aprilia when I test rode it, and so did the others that were testing that bike at the same time. I just wish it was a 900 (maybe an 800). It feels big like a 900, but on the odd occasion, the lack of CCs could be a hindrance.
I love Aprilia. I had a 1st generation Caponord and loved that bike, even with all its flaws and quirks. But the only Ape service center was a 90 minute drive/ride away. While I could do some minor repairs and service by myself I’m not competent enough as a mechanic to do everything it would eventually require, so I sold it. I currently own an Africa Twin and love it, but I’d buy a new Caponord or Tuareg in a minute if I had the available cash and could rely on a more robust Aprilia dealer network.
Haha yeah, when I saw those endless canyons, I was kinda shocked too. Not missing the GS at all yet. But also, not had one of those horrible "I'm still 500miles from home and I have to be back tonight" days either...
Funny that you should mention that, but I've changed the screen this week, and the video is already up in the Members-Only section. Willl be public later this week!
yes i like the format , too many doing the same last few years , this is refreshing to watch . also im amazed so much since i own a 14k euro huski 701 and this is below 10 . ok it is dutch vs german pricing but still . hope to see you on gp tf this year with it ☢☢
Did you consider the V Strom 800 DE?, adjustable suspension, allegedly good (I haven't ridden one) on road and prob up to double track offroad, good ground clearance, good torque at lower revs (pulls in any gear). Maybe a bit chunky/top heavy but if you considered the Tenere World Raid then I think those would be in the same weight class.
@@btgmoto Yep, I have the V Strom 650XT, great all rounder, perfect for gravel roads, open tracks, but anything knarly/slow and its a top heavy beast (and bottoms out on hard bumps/jumps - though I gather emulators in forks might help this if was hitting that terrain very often).
Yeah, he didn't really complain, but I could see it was a bit front-end heavy in the deep sand. Suspension travel, quality, all on par with other big ADV bikes. He did have one complaint, which was that it's tricky to descend on loose surfaces as tick-over, idle, speed is already nearly 20kmh, which means clutch-in and manually control the rear brake, which is tricky. It's annoying because the Tigers (and my Tuareg) do all have engine-brake control, which is very useful on the heavier bikes
NIce. I've got a 1250 GSA and bought the Tuareg for the off road and ACT routes etc. I love it and find it as comfortable on road which i was surprised about. Maybe not absolutely equal but I had no issues with some rubbish 8hr mway to get to S France on first day.
Good choice! I think that was the thing that surprised me most about the Tuareg. I already knew it was going to be lighter, and I hoped it was going to be exciting and a bit easier off-road too... but when I took it on the autobahn, and hit cruise control, I was like... woah... this thing is solid as a rock. No wobbles, no vibes... easy to do the miles on. Thanks for the comment!
I would have kept your GS for long distance road rides and easy off road trails. Then bought a lightweight enduro for difficult off-road adventures. The Aprilia is still too heavy for serious off-road riding.
That would have been ideal, but the reason I couldn't keep the BMW was it doesn't fit in the van with 3 other normal bikes. A lightweight enduro is still interesting to me, but my 'normal' tours are about 250-350kms per day and on tarmac. I couldn't afford to keep such an expensive bike as the BMW just for the few times I want to ride a very long way in a single day.
Some great deals in the depth of winter. Rumours are that the GS 1300s are even standing still. I've seen some deals offered for those already. And I've even seen a Acid Yellow '21 new Tuareg going for 8999 the other day! Let us know how the Tuareg does for you!
@@btgmoto I was just offered a 4k discount on a 2023 Ducati v4s Rally this past weekend. Would have done it but that was really just enough to cover my Norden 901 that I would have been trading in. Really love that Ducati though…
I like the Tuareq very much. It´s a beautiful bike especially in the Indigo Tagelmust colours. I´m not a fan of the original sound. Paralell-Twin engines are not my favourite. But it´s ok. The scenery there is massively impressive! I really woul like to join you for a trip there. But it is so far away ... perhaps one day in the future!?
Yeah, but I wasn't willing to pay the big money for the colours, and I will probably make a sticker kit for this one too. Keep in touch, I'm sure I can find space in the van 😉
Solo riders don't need a 1250 or more... 660 is enough for plenty of fun. However with pillion and full equipment it's nice to have the power, brakes and the space to stow luggage and comfortseat 😊
Depends on what you want to do on a bike. I have a Honda CRF300L Rally for taking up in mountains. Light with enough power. But, not enough power for the interstate. Need a trip bike that would do some off-road. Deciding factor was weight, max 750CC. IMO anything above that becomes a cow off-road. Came down to the Toureg at 660 and the Honda at 755. Price difference was not an issue of concern. I ride solo often. Can be 25-30 miles up a dirt road and not seen anyone for an hour. Question that I asked myself: Do I want to be 25-30 miles up dirt on an Aprilia or a Honda? I bought the Honda. Love it. It has power that I did not expect and dont need. And Honda parts and mechanics are all over the world ...IF I EVER NEED THEM. And, I got what I wanted and paid less. "Plasticky?" Silliness. And to my eye...the TRANSALP ha better lines.
I'm not under any illusions about bikes like the TA750 and T660 - they're huge and awkward compared to a proper off-roader, but they can handle both long roads and rough ones, which is kinda awesome. I have a 125 scrambler for the woods too. I think one example of how the TA disappointed me was the tiny display set in a sea of black plastic, inferior suspension, and on top of that... a retail price a whole grand and a bit over the Aprilia. Glad you're enjoying your bike, that's what it's all about.
Interesting trajectory. I was 1200 GSA, GS LC then GSA LC. I eventually got fed up with build quality issues such as rotting frame, subframe and poor coating on the rear drive. Water based paint does not excuse those failings. A failed exhaust flap valve after 7,000 miles not covered under (extended) warranty and a monstrous potential cost plus woeful service from my main dealer were the final straws. A fully speced ATAS DCT ES replaced the GSA but after 2,000 miles reality bit. Top heavy, horrible riding position (the GSA was and still is the position that worked for me), steering vagueness, wooden front brake and the DCT which simply failed to do as expected. Open the throttle and nothing. No change down despite all the clever electronics. Manually shifting worked but shouldn’t have been necessary. Pretty bike but actually I regretted selling the GSA. I now have a KTM 890 Adventure which is a great road bike but cramped for my legs (I’m no giant but the GSA spoiled me). The Ergo seat is better than the stock plank but still not comfortable. I have a Husky 701 Enduro which I’m adding a rally tower to and will sell the KTM. The selling point is the lightness. However, I still have a hankering to try the 660 and your review is timely. I suspect that the 660 fits between the 890 and 701 for what I want/need. Thanks for helping with my conundrum……
@@btgmoto Thanks. My 890 is the non-S so far more road biased plus I can reach the ground. My unicorn (ok, tired expression) is, essentially, a GSA that is skinnier and lighter. I’m doing a big (4,000 mile) ride in the US in May/June on a 690 Enduro so we’ll see how that works out.
Some say that after 20,000 the Tuareg's engine starts oil leaking, plus multiple other issues. Can you tell us please regarding the reliability how happy you are with the bike in general? Greetings!
Ya, they are pricey but in the end I think I spent the same as my R1250GS. Although since then I added a Tractive suspension which probably puts me close to $30k. I will say this though, in its current state it truly does equal 2 bikes in one. The BMW was good on road, not even worth taking off road whereas the DX is amazing on road and amazing off road especially with the new suspension. There are some great bikes out there but I feel like the DX does the "overall" better than anything out there. I also have a new 890 Rally which is amazing too but not as complete imho.@@btgmoto
Subscribed. Got attracted by the title, stayed for the good information and footage. Well done. I'm riding the 1250GSA, very capable bike. But also looking at different options: Norden, Tuareg for downsizing in weight.
Awesome, thank you! Yeah, the GSA is awesome at what it does well. The trouble is, it's also pretty good at what doesn't do well (if that makes sense). Took me a year to accept that I wanted to sell my GS ;)
When i was looking to change from an Africa twin i test rode the tuareg but found the general feel of it to be low quality. The fuel cap looks like its off a chinese generator and the overall feel is similar to a cheap pit bike. I think it looks great and if the quality was better i would have one. I ended up with a tiger 900 rally pro.
the tuareg is far superior than the transalp... the chasis, and the geometry of that bike is freaking amazing.... also the suspension is amazing aswell...
Yep, the suspension is great on the Aprilia. It has meaningful adjustment, and when you push it harder, it just responds. You'd have to spend about 1500€ extra on the transalp to get close. And the Aprilia was cheaper.
Hello @BTGMoto awesome video! Only thing that was missing personally, did you ever try a ktm 790/890? Or consider it? I’m hesitating between the Tuareg, transalp or ktm 790/890. I’m only 5’9 so leaning towards the KTM.
Yes I have! I want to love them so much, especially the new shape 890 and the cheaper 790 - but the vibes really annoy me. Gonna test the 890 SMT next week for another video, will report my findings
Felt a little bit heavier, but the real turn off was the engine vibes at motorway speeds, followed by the price. More than 50% for the Expedition with the good suspension.
Ian at Big Rock Moto is rapidly approaching $20k on his Trans Alp build out… and it’s still not as good as a bone stock Tuareg…. As a side note, I too looked at replacing my 13 GSA with a 23/24 GSA… but at $30k in the US..as well as a noticeable “cheapening” of the build quality compared to my 13 GSA.. it was an easy pass… the Tuareg was a easy go to.. zero regrets..
Yeah, I've been watching that build! It's very cool, but no way I'd ever commit to that amount of effort while bikes like the Tuareg exist. Look for the next Brake Magazine review of the Tuareg, it's a corker (online later this week I think).
Having a 18’s 1200 GS i find myself looking at smaller bikes. Funny enough I met a couple of people with very good riding skills that went your path (GS->Touareg). Being an average rider I would need to test drive one to see if is only a good replacement if you are very skilled. Also, tbh I have limited access to trails around here so not sure it makes sense for a 90% road use.
Big Rock moto is selling or sold their Transalp. So did Dork in the Road. I never got one in the first place. I decided on the higher teched out KTM790adv. So right decision against the Transalp
Not missing the torque (on the mountain passes)?? My light-weight MT09 SP (optimized to 181,5 kgs wet and 117 whp) pulls like a freight train in any gear. 50 - 100 km/h in 5th in 2.20 - no need to down change...
Hello BTG, new subscriber here, I really enjoyed your video and this format, have to say I don't know previous vids yet(!). But I have a question for you as an experienced rider: Do you thing Tuareg is a good first adventure bike? I have some experience on street bikes ~25kkm on CBF600, then few thousands on various roads in Indonesia on my small Yamaha XSR... Now thinking about going back to old good Europe I want to get an adventure bike. Common sense says: CB500X, heart goes: Tuareg or 790 Adventure... Should I be scared about size of this bike- has to say I am not strong person, 75kg / 178 cm, 0 muscle. Sorry for this longish comment but I think you are the rightest person to ask.
Hi! So, here's my opinion. Unless you are limited by license (48hp), or budget, or insurance, there's no way I'd take a 500 over the 660 or 790. Those are all very real limitations for some people, but if you're free of them, then don't even bother with the 500X. Just my opinion. The principle reason I would give is that both the KTM and the Aprilia have very similar kerb weights to the 500X, while offering more advanced electronics, better suspension, and way more interesting motors! Out of the 790 and 660, I chose the Aprilia, guided mostly by comfort and price. The 790 is probably more hard-core off-road.
@@btgmoto this is kind of answer I wanted to see. Thanks mate! Matter of fact I tried Transalp - it felt too big, I was intimidated by it's size and ugliness, then I tried 790 which was a perfect fit (but all used KTM's I saw looked heavy worn out). Tomorrow I'm going to check Tuareg, just to sit on it and feel the bike. You may be right, I am not limited by law, so why to limit myself, especially when weight is only +4kg in favor of NX500 vs Tuareg. One question, how does it handle on the road? Every review points brilliant off road abilities, but what about curvy roads? Would you take it to track as you did with GS?
It's really good, as good as you could ever hope for really. But DO take a screwdriver as the suspension is very adjustable compared to most Japanese bikes. Settings are in the handbook, but you do want a lot more damping on the smooth roads. It all dials in very quickly though. High quality suspension, for sure.
Warming to getting another motorcycle ( 20yr gap last bike), yep everone raves about transalp, its clearly really good, but it's just too Honda, top pf the list for me is a Suzuki vstrom 800, then i saw a Tuareg, its like first seeing Margo Robbie as Barbie, when you look onto ot, it really does seem that good, and very underrated. I haven't tried anything yet though.
Subscribed. I am interested in your experience with the Tuareg 660. I have already test drove it, but I would like to rent it for a weekend. Here the situation is similar, dealers still having bikes from 2022. Which brings up the question, what will be its used price after a couple of years...
Thanks for the sub! I actually have access to a fleet of rental Tuaregs in Andalusia, if you ever fancy the trip. It's a very valid point about the resale, and I'll be interested to see what the dealer says about the oil leak from the water pump when it goes for first service. No doubt that will be another video.
I have an old gs and it is the worst bike I ever had. To heavy is the main reason. Expensive parts. Not safe. Brembo brakes are the real shit and very dangerous. I had a crash because the brakes tightened by themselves / abs fault (so good I was drivning the bike myself) will I go back to GS? Absolutely no. Would I recommend it to anyone? It is comformtable on the road but like I said heavy bikes=dangerous bikes... People who are selling their GS are going with the Tenere 700 and then Husky 701... ktm 790/890... People are falling in love because of the "good look- beautiful design" but no more than that.. offroad People are laughing about GS because it have nothing to do with offroad bdcause of its weight. Like 260kg + luggage 300kg...
Very good decision! The GS is boring like hell in Europe. The Aprilia is best in class because of disable the ABS 😅 and because of the great engine. Sure BMW GS has his features. But nobody need this features and it is a heavy cow! Regards from Germany
Go light? Shouldnt have mucked around, and should have bought a 690 Enduro. 150kg wet. And cheaper than a ToeRag as well. It would smash the Aprilia off road. Easily squeeze in the back of a Transit, and easy to accessorise - been around for years. Rade Garage even have kits to turn it into a proper rally raid bike as well🤘🏾
Oh I love them to bits, but I still have to ride 300km per day for a week at a time on my tours, and for that, the 690 was just not good enough. The Tuareg is a welcome step down from the GS, but can still do high-ish road speeds all day, and in comfort.
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How would that lovely Tuareg cope with a really heavy rider? 203cm and 170kg+?
I think with that kind of weight, you should look at the bikes designed to carry two people regularly. My 1250 GS would cope with that, no problem at all. The Tuareg, I think would be a bit soggy
I think it depends on how difficult each section is, and also on the weather. It can be done, for sure. People do TET on much heavier and less capable bikes. Would I do it? I'm not sure. Look at Hessler, they do awesome off-road parts for the 1050
Nobody is saying it so get to say it, the engine sounds like a mixer. How is this thing in terms of reliability and maintenance costs? I guess doesnt come near a Japanese brand 😅
I have had nearly 30 bikes from fireblade sp1 R1 pan bmw1200rt s1000xr Multistrada 1260 blackbird but as I go pass 58 I m finding the bikes heavy my next will b downsize maybe mt09gt
Ho appena iniziato a vedere il video , e ho pensato subito questo tizio è un folle proprio come me, iscrizione al canale automatica dopo solo l'introduzione !!
08:55 This is section 23 and 24 of the TET: Spain. Find more info here: transeurotrail.org/spain
Super thanks very nice information
Tuareg 660 is fun! I still have an 8 yo BMW R1200RS next to my new Aprilia Tuareg 660 in my garage. I can honestly say that i never got such a taste from any other bikes in my riding past. Congratulations with your new bike!
Right on! I was pretty smitten when I test-rode the blue one last year, and it took 12months for the fuse to burn down, but here we are!
I’m a big fan of Honda but even I don’t blame you for not shortlisting the Transalp!
I've had more Hondas than I can count, and love the brand, but I couldn't do it.
This is very useful, I have a 2018 R1200GS coming up to 90,000kms and I have been eyeing up a smaller replacement. I keep coming back to the Tuareg. I must ride one soon.
No regrets from my side... yet!
Try a 790 Duke
Hello! As a former Transalp fan and owner, I went into my test drive with great expectations and anticipation. And never came back so disappointed. It's clear to me that no one really wants to hear this and I've often been verbally hit in the face for it. But the Honda is nowhere near as good as it appears to be in the public eye. I'm far from your driving level, just good average, but even I noticed that the suspension elements are just cheap and not Honda-like. Just like the rest of the vehicle, it doesn't seem to be that valuable when you look at it more closely. The engine also doesn't fit in an adventure bike and you can tell that it was taken from a sports bike without being tuned differently for its new purpose. Equipment and price are right at first!! If you take a closer look, you'll quickly realize that it doesn't fit. No cruise control for money and good words, not even an outside temperature display, tubeless rims..etc..etc.. my utmost respect for your honest opinion and assessment that is based on pure facts and not embellished because you tested a press bike and would also like to receive an invitation to Honda next time when we go to Italy, Spain or Portugal. ;-) and another thing about Honda quality... I've already seen some videos on RUclips where the seat had an ugly crease, as did my Transalp test drive with less than 5000 km on the clock. But as I said, hardly anyone wants to hear or read that... ;-)
That's reassuring to hear! I thought I was the only one for a while. I'm just waiti g for my Aprilia to explode like a cartoon clown car now 💥
@@btgmoto Hello! You have to live with such prejudices when you buy an Italian motorcycle haha 😜😆 I bought a V85TT last year and it took me almost 4 years to free myself from such prejudices. I'm always asked whether the Guzzi is reliable... my biggest concerns have always been about the electronics. That was always the Italians' biggest weak point, never the mechanics and the engine. Moto Guzzi and Aprilia are part of the Piaggio Group, and many parts are identical, especially in the area of electronics. Therefore quite comparable to your Tuareg. Two motorcycle magazines in Italy and Germany sent the V85TT over 50,000 km each and both! had 0.0 problems with the electronics. The Tuareg is a fantastic motorcycle, better off-road than the much praised Yamaha T7. I'm very curious about your experiences with it... have fun with it 👍🏻👍🏻
Dale, you’re a legend . Remember you from the uk bike mag , whichever it was then joined Bridge to Gantry. Just bought a 30th edition MX5 RF so need another Ring sojourn.
Thanks! 🙏😊
Videos are great Dale, looking forward to the Aprilia journey...!
Thanks 👍I got my first oil leak already. I feel like a real Aprilia guy now!
Did the SAME exact thing with my R1250 GS and I love my Tuareg.
That's reassuring to hear! :)
Me too!
Get the Arrows de-cat headers straight on,keep the heat away from the waterpump seals,passenger footrests ,replace with an exhaust hanger,LexTek can,and a custom mid section...lower the can, save your luggage...cheap, reliable and better looking! Good luck with the new wheels!
I've not actually noticed the heat yet, even when I was riding through Spain. But I do like the idea of a better sounding exhaust, and not having a massive heat trap next to the motor. Whichever can I buy needs to be properly e-marked though with papers, because Zis Izz Deutschlaaaaand
The Arrow De Cat makes little to no difference in heat dissipation… but it’s a great waste of money though. Can swap out?. For sure , not to loud though , you’ll piss off your neighbors and the Po Po… factory taller windscreen with a Amazon special wind deflector… perfect for highway droning… as for a rear rack… screw the grossly over priced “name brands” , Aliexpress special for $35.00. Same damn thing as the “name brands” but 1/10 the price…. Just a hardware upgrade (stainless steel) @ $10.00… ask me how I know… as for the lack of electronic gimmicks…you’ll never notice. And of course the Pirelli tire are crap for anything other than groomed dirt roads….
@@BERZERKER888 Talking B/S,like a lot of other clueless idiots on the Internet...put a blockage in a pipe,compared to a free flowing one,with the fuelling to suit,it no longer runs lean,and is cooler...that's a scientific FACT!
I really liked your video testing the Tuareg, it was a surprise. I had also tried it and had similar sensations although I am a much worse pilot than you! And you finally sold the GS! Maybe in a few months I'll make the same change. I only travel once a year and 8 days maximum, mainly Alps. I think I won't be wrong. 🤔
If you're just riding on road, and doing big distance, the GS is the ultimate. But if at any point, you think "this bike is too heavy"... then the Aprilia will satisfy!
Just traded in my Africa Twin for the Transalp. You are correct, the TA is not for your Hooliganism 🤣🤣. Just found your channel and so far it’s great
hahah thanks! :D
Amazing video! I just bought a Tuareg, and so far I love it, coming from a 2008 VStrom 650. I also seriously considered the T7, Transalp, and the KTM 790/890. Regarding the Transalp I just didn’t see very much to get excited about, unless you really, really want a Honda, and regarding the KTMs I didn’t want all the drama that goes with these bikes (read FB owners pages to see what I mean). The quick shifter and cruise control on the Tuareg are amazing, never had these conveniences, and the IMU is something I don’t really need in an ADV bike. Looking forward to your next installment!
What about Husqvarna 701 ?
And why not tenere ?
i understand you 1000% and you know what? i sold all my cars and bought ....DESERT X rally, 1250 GSA (already owned since last year) and a Voge 300 rally (i really love that one for hard trail) all of these with full off-road setup
already done few TET section + hard stuff, spain desert etc
I love that SOOO much.... you will never ever see me at the ring again, it is too much busy there trail bike is FREEDOM...
I've also been looking at the Voge too! We're definitely going to be hitting some more TET sections before the end of this year. A friend of mine is looking hard at the Kove 450 too. I love the 'Ring, but what was once freedom, is now a ball and a chain some days :(
@@btgmoto Kove is great but more expensive and i think it work good if you drive fast on trail, Voge is really perfect for the money
Great bike. I hate heights, couldn't climb that hill, great video. Greetings from South Australia. 😎
It took some self-control from me, and I edit out my panicky bits!
It’s interesting to see that you made the same switch that I did. I understand your reasons for switching, but I might have to steal your video and make one of my own explaining my reasons.
Feel free! I'm a few months into the Italian side of life and it's all good 🤌🤌🤌
I’m to on the edge of change , I’m on a 2021 gsa and now thinking they are just to big , to expensive, and now thinking of something just like you , around the 700/900 cc , great video and look forward to your next one , carl uk 🇬🇧
I think it comes down to % of time on % size of road. The one thing that I think the Tuareg does better than all the 890 KTM bikes (Husqvarna included) is that it can cruise at normal motorway speeds with no vibes. The Tiger is also OK for that.
So, ive been wanting a review of the Tuareg from an adult w/ ADV riding experience. BMW's R 1250 GS is prolly 'top 'O the heap' ADV, so - I expected more grumbling/griping. But, 2 minutes into the dirt & you sounded comfortable?
Lots of gimcracks & geegaws on the Aprilia, but it seems pretty capable & much lighter & smaller (van). Glad you felt both confident & competent getting acquainted!
I will follow in the hopes that it holds up well over time! (Selfish of me- I have its sister, the Tuono 660 Factory!)
So, good luck to us both!
I will be publishing an update soon, just crossed the 1000km mark on the new Tuareg, had my first warranty job completed, and still loving it! Thanks for commenting!
Holy shit!! Those heights!! NOPE! Youre alot braver than me. Great vid.
Thanks!
Mr Flanders, Ned. I was surprised that you rode at all.
Ned's a pretty cool guy, not sure why you're surprised he rides bikes. He works out, watches NASCAR, and has a cool niche business.
That looks like an amazing TET section. Traded in my ‘14 R1200GSA for a new T7 World Raid. I had enough Italian reliability trauma with my Moto Guzzi before the GS. Same reason I didn’t go the KTM / Husqy route, plus they were noticeably too small for my 1.90 meter frame. The T7 WR fits my tall body perfectly.
Very nice! I did like the WR a lot, and a test ride on that actually cemented my decision to sell the GS.
I consider the Tenere and 701... I am 190cm tall
Im 198cm and im going to try africa twin.I want 2 up adv bike for touring.Is there any better option?
In Thailand, Tlansalpe's price is 10,000 euros and Tauleg's price is 19,000 euros almost double the price of Honda
Wow! That's amazing! I know a lot of Hondas are built in Thailand, I think the Transalp is one of them. Are tax rates really high on 'big' motorcycles?
Went from a Sertao to a 1200GS to a Fantic Cabellero and the grin factor is definitely with the last one. Not much travel but did 3 French and Belgium tours, definitely Spain next.
It's not what you ride, it's where you ride it!
Great video Dale, really like it, more content like this and you'll grow quickly...
Thanks mate!
Tuareg 660 is a very good bike, fit for me at least. I owned one year, perfect! Love your videos! Thank you for share!
Yay, welcome to the club!
thanks!
I spotted your link to the 660 and was a few minutes in sub'd and notifications on. Really enjoyed vid scenery but actually looking for how to deck one out for multi day rides in countryside (just like your video depics) and would appreciate videos of any mods, tyre selection (80 / 20), racks, luggage etc. recommendations. Looking forward to following your journeys with the Aprilia Tuareg 660. I haven't pulled the trigger to buy just yet but very close. Keep up the great work Dale & Co.
Thanks! I'm only just inside the first 1100kms with this bike, but I will be filming an update soon with some of the basic mods. I'm hoping to try some new tyres as well.
Great video Dale, look forward to the next one
Thanks 👍 Working on it already 🤝
Love My Tuareg...welcome to the club !
Thanks!
I had a Tenere, it was a great bike but I decided I wanted a change and test rode quite a few bikes including the Aprilia but ended up buying a 1250gs (shaft drive and keyless sealed it 😂). I have to say I really liked the Tuareg, it was pretty solid at decent speed with the cruise on and I almost went for it. Have done a couple of long trips and love the gs for eating the miles, so easy. I won't discount another middleweight in the future and Interested to see how you get on with the Tuareg long term.
Thanks for sharing!
Good vid. I like your presenting style.
I've had an eye on the Tuareg since it came out but bought a Tiger 1200 to accompany my KTM350 excf. The Tiger is great for getting to places but only good for easy, dry trails at my skill level. The KTM is brilliant fun on trails and flatters my riding but I never go anywhere interesting because I don't have a trailer/van. Maybe the Tuareg is the best of both worlds...
I've been there, back when I had a little XR. The Tuareg can do the connections that just take way too long on a proper Enduro bike. It's exactly half way between a real off-road bike, and something like a GS or Tiger. As with everything, comprises must be made.
(Disclaimer: I now daily a van instead of a car, and bike life is better for that compromise. I'm just going to the supermarket now, where I will have to park a mile from the doors, thus giving me more exercise and improving my performance further! LOL )
Exactly what I thought I need an off road bike that can get to good trails none near me
8:35 what a place! 😍
It's really beautiful, right?
Nice vid! As a starting bike journalist I reached out to Piaggio and asked them if I could do a review of the Tuono 1100. Instead I got to take the Tuareg 660 out for a week to the Eifel and the black forrest in Germany. Not a bike I would have picked out based on the spec sheet, but the bike did not disappoint in any field. Kept up with the sporty bikes on the B500 just on midrange torque, has more (and better) electronic aids than any other midsize dual sport. Handles like a bike with a 21 inch front wheel has no right to. As stable as a warship on the highway and quite agile (steering is a bit slow though) in the twisties. Was not allowed to take it off-road or on to the Nürnberg ring, as stated in the contract. Grip for days from the OEM tires. Comfy enough for all day stints (even for my 52 year old back and butt). I had the quick shifter option too, so it was kind of perfect. In my review I made the comparison to the GS, which makes no sense on paper, but strangely does after having ridden both. Like you said, there are quite some incredible deals to be found on the outgoing models.
Sorry for your loss
I'll cope 🤣
Great video Dale. I loved the fact that for around 2 mins it sounded like a 90s 090 number call line 😂😂
I was aiming for Blue Brothers elevator music (Girl from Ipanema), but it's copyrighted of course 😅
The Gorafe desert in Spain looks awesome! ❤❤❤
Really was one of the most amazing places to ride a motorcycle
Great video Dale! Was already subscribed but have turned notifications on now! Looking forwards to the next instalment.
Awesome, thank you! Working on episode 3 now and debating 1 a week or a bonus....
I can see why you didn't go for the Transalp - like you said, it looks budget, and the suspension is basic and no tubeless wheels. I loved the Aprilia when I test rode it, and so did the others that were testing that bike at the same time. I just wish it was a 900 (maybe an 800). It feels big like a 900, but on the odd occasion, the lack of CCs could be a hindrance.
So far I'm not worried about power on the 660, but I ride solo mostly. The GS was awesome with a passenger
I love Aprilia. I had a 1st generation Caponord and loved that bike, even with all its flaws and quirks. But the only Ape service center was a 90 minute drive/ride away. While I could do some minor repairs and service by myself I’m not competent enough as a mechanic to do everything it would eventually require, so I sold it. I currently own an Africa Twin and love it, but I’d buy a new Caponord or Tuareg in a minute if I had the available cash and could rely on a more robust Aprilia dealer network.
Yeah, I still don't know how many of the problems are the manufacturer, and how many are the dealers. They always blame each other lol!
Bloody hell , stunning , just of the scale wow , looking forward to hearing your thoughts without your GS
Haha yeah, when I saw those endless canyons, I was kinda shocked too. Not missing the GS at all yet. But also, not had one of those horrible "I'm still 500miles from home and I have to be back tonight" days either...
Watching from Australia
Great video
Awesome! Thank you!
Just came across your chanel, said the vicar. Great stuff, add another sub, for what its worth. Ride safe pal
Awesome, thank you!
your comparison video made me buy the Tuareg and I love it
That's both cool, and scary, to hear!
Nice..Such a fun and well equipped scoot. Wish the windscreen and seat were better, but most advs suffer from the same issues.
Funny that you should mention that, but I've changed the screen this week, and the video is already up in the Members-Only section. Willl be public later this week!
yes i like the format , too many doing the same last few years , this is refreshing to watch . also im amazed so much since i own a 14k euro huski 701 and this is below 10 . ok it is dutch vs german pricing but still . hope to see you on gp tf this year with it ☢☢
Thanks mate! Yep, will see you at TF this year. Probably also on something with two cylinders and less than 100hp... but not the Tuareg ;)
I sold my R1200RS and have the RS660 and love it. Hope you're as happy with it as I'm with my RS
Can confirm that I'm loving the Tuareg so far. New update drops tonight!
Did you consider the V Strom 800 DE?, adjustable suspension, allegedly good (I haven't ridden one) on road and prob up to double track offroad, good ground clearance, good torque at lower revs (pulls in any gear). Maybe a bit chunky/top heavy but if you considered the Tenere World Raid then I think those would be in the same weight class.
I tried the Vstrom briefly. Great motor, but super heavy and even more top heavy than the world raid. The Aprilia feels like a 400 in comparison.
@@btgmoto Yep, I have the V Strom 650XT, great all rounder, perfect for gravel roads, open tracks, but anything knarly/slow and its a top heavy beast (and bottoms out on hard bumps/jumps - though I gather emulators in forks might help this if was hitting that terrain very often).
Must say I totally love your style.
I must say that I was unaware of possessing any style whatsoever! lol!
Great video once again! Keep up the good work Dale. 💪🏼
Thanks! Will do!
I test rode the Tuareg at the ABR and was blown away. Ready to buy. But I didnt unfortunately and its still on my wishlist. The airbox noise!
It's a strong honk
I saw your companion was on the triumph how was that on the TET I here there pretty good off road. ..
Yeah, he didn't really complain, but I could see it was a bit front-end heavy in the deep sand. Suspension travel, quality, all on par with other big ADV bikes. He did have one complaint, which was that it's tricky to descend on loose surfaces as tick-over, idle, speed is already nearly 20kmh, which means clutch-in and manually control the rear brake, which is tricky. It's annoying because the Tigers (and my Tuareg) do all have engine-brake control, which is very useful on the heavier bikes
NIce. I've got a 1250 GSA and bought the Tuareg for the off road and ACT routes etc. I love it and find it as comfortable on road which i was surprised about. Maybe not absolutely equal but I had no issues with some rubbish 8hr mway to get to S France on first day.
Good choice! I think that was the thing that surprised me most about the Tuareg. I already knew it was going to be lighter, and I hoped it was going to be exciting and a bit easier off-road too... but when I took it on the autobahn, and hit cruise control, I was like... woah... this thing is solid as a rock. No wobbles, no vibes... easy to do the miles on. Thanks for the comment!
I would have kept your GS for long distance road rides and easy off road trails. Then bought a lightweight enduro for difficult off-road adventures. The Aprilia is still too heavy for serious off-road riding.
That would have been ideal, but the reason I couldn't keep the BMW was it doesn't fit in the van with 3 other normal bikes. A lightweight enduro is still interesting to me, but my 'normal' tours are about 250-350kms per day and on tarmac. I couldn't afford to keep such an expensive bike as the BMW just for the few times I want to ride a very long way in a single day.
Great video Dale!
Glad you think so! More to come :)
Ian at Big rock says that the Tuareg is better than the Transalp, so you can say that he approves!
yep! "poor" Ian has to ride the bikes that youtube wants to see, and not just what he wants to own. Maybe one day I'll have that problem... lol
Just got the same bike, 2023 for 9900.00 US. Great bargain. :)
Some great deals in the depth of winter. Rumours are that the GS 1300s are even standing still. I've seen some deals offered for those already. And I've even seen a Acid Yellow '21 new Tuareg going for 8999 the other day! Let us know how the Tuareg does for you!
@@btgmoto I was just offered a 4k discount on a 2023 Ducati v4s Rally this past weekend. Would have done it but that was really just enough to cover my Norden 901 that I would have been trading in. Really love that Ducati though…
I like the Tuareq very much. It´s a beautiful bike especially in the Indigo Tagelmust colours. I´m not a fan of the original sound. Paralell-Twin engines are not my favourite. But it´s ok. The scenery there is massively impressive! I really woul like to join you for a trip there. But it is so far away ... perhaps one day in the future!?
Yeah, but I wasn't willing to pay the big money for the colours, and I will probably make a sticker kit for this one too. Keep in touch, I'm sure I can find space in the van 😉
Good luck, you will need it...
I had a hard time watching you walking on that cliff,
I could never do that...
Good for you
I had a hard time walking it, meanwhile Ali, who used to do that stuff for a living, looked in with disdain! lol
Solo riders don't need a 1250 or more... 660 is enough for plenty of fun. However with pillion and full equipment it's nice to have the power, brakes and the space to stow luggage and comfortseat 😊
Well said! My GS and Pan European were stupid big solo bikes, but totally awesome with the missus.
Top video 🎉
Glad you liked it 🙌
Depends on what you want to do on a bike. I have a Honda CRF300L Rally for taking up in mountains. Light with enough power. But, not enough power for the interstate. Need a trip bike that would do some off-road. Deciding factor was weight, max 750CC.
IMO anything above that becomes a cow off-road. Came down to the Toureg at 660 and the Honda at 755. Price difference was not an issue of concern. I ride solo often. Can be 25-30 miles up a dirt road and not seen anyone for an hour. Question that I asked myself: Do I want to be 25-30 miles up dirt on an Aprilia or a Honda? I bought the Honda. Love it. It has power that I did not expect and dont need. And Honda parts and mechanics are all over the world ...IF I EVER NEED THEM. And, I got what I wanted and paid less. "Plasticky?" Silliness. And to my eye...the TRANSALP ha better lines.
I'm not under any illusions about bikes like the TA750 and T660 - they're huge and awkward compared to a proper off-roader, but they can handle both long roads and rough ones, which is kinda awesome. I have a 125 scrambler for the woods too. I think one example of how the TA disappointed me was the tiny display set in a sea of black plastic, inferior suspension, and on top of that... a retail price a whole grand and a bit over the Aprilia. Glad you're enjoying your bike, that's what it's all about.
Nice content, keep going
Thank you, I will!!!
Interesting trajectory. I was 1200 GSA, GS LC then GSA LC. I eventually got fed up with build quality issues such as rotting frame, subframe and poor coating on the rear drive. Water based paint does not excuse those failings. A failed exhaust flap valve after 7,000 miles not covered under (extended) warranty and a monstrous potential cost plus woeful service from my main dealer were the final straws. A fully speced ATAS DCT ES replaced the GSA but after 2,000 miles reality bit. Top heavy, horrible riding position (the GSA was and still is the position that worked for me), steering vagueness, wooden front brake and the DCT which simply failed to do as expected. Open the throttle and nothing. No change down despite all the clever electronics. Manually shifting worked but shouldn’t have been necessary. Pretty bike but actually I regretted selling the GSA. I now have a KTM 890 Adventure which is a great road bike but cramped for my legs (I’m no giant but the GSA spoiled me). The Ergo seat is better than the stock plank but still not comfortable. I have a Husky 701 Enduro which I’m adding a rally tower to and will sell the KTM. The selling point is the lightness. However, I still have a hankering to try the 660 and your review is timely. I suspect that the 660 fits between the 890 and 701 for what I want/need. Thanks for helping with my conundrum……
Exactly. I'd put the 660 exactly between the two. But the 890 is still a ripper off-road, and has serious performance.
@@btgmoto Thanks. My 890 is the non-S so far more road biased plus I can reach the ground. My unicorn (ok, tired expression) is, essentially, a GSA that is skinnier and lighter. I’m doing a big (4,000 mile) ride in the US in May/June on a 690 Enduro so we’ll see how that works out.
Some say that after 20,000 the Tuareg's engine starts oil leaking, plus multiple other issues. Can you tell us please regarding the reliability how happy you are with the bike in general? Greetings!
I made a video about this bike recently, and it did have a small oil leak fixed under warranty. I've seen some bikes on 45,000kms with no problems
Don't blame you one bit....sold my 2021 GS and have a Desert X and 890 Rally.....I will never go back to that pig.
Ahh the Desert X. I loved that bike. Had a quick test ride. But the prices were STRONG!
Ya, they are pricey but in the end I think I spent the same as my R1250GS. Although since then I added a Tractive suspension which probably puts me close to $30k. I will say this though, in its current state it truly does equal 2 bikes in one. The BMW was good on road, not even worth taking off road whereas the DX is amazing on road and amazing off road especially with the new suspension. There are some great bikes out there but I feel like the DX does the "overall" better than anything out there. I also have a new 890 Rally which is amazing too but not as complete imho.@@btgmoto
You ride like a boss.
Thanks for the sub!
Subscribed. Got attracted by the title, stayed for the good information and footage. Well done. I'm riding the 1250GSA, very capable bike. But also looking at different options: Norden, Tuareg for downsizing in weight.
Awesome, thank you! Yeah, the GSA is awesome at what it does well. The trouble is, it's also pretty good at what doesn't do well (if that makes sense). Took me a year to accept that I wanted to sell my GS ;)
When i was looking to change from an Africa twin i test rode the tuareg but found the general feel of it to be low quality. The fuel cap looks like its off a chinese generator and the overall feel is similar to a cheap pit bike. I think it looks great and if the quality was better i would have one. I ended up with a tiger 900 rally pro.
Your the first person I’ve heard say that. Everyone has said that it has a quality feel and finish. Interesting!
Great Video. Great review. Thank you so much. Cheers Tomaso de Grosso
Thanks for watching!
the tuareg is far superior than the transalp... the chasis, and the geometry of that bike is freaking amazing.... also the suspension is amazing aswell...
Yep, the suspension is great on the Aprilia. It has meaningful adjustment, and when you push it harder, it just responds. You'd have to spend about 1500€ extra on the transalp to get close. And the Aprilia was cheaper.
Hello @BTGMoto awesome video! Only thing that was missing personally, did you ever try a ktm 790/890? Or consider it? I’m hesitating between the Tuareg, transalp or ktm 790/890. I’m only 5’9 so leaning towards the KTM.
Yes I have! I want to love them so much, especially the new shape 890 and the cheaper 790 - but the vibes really annoy me. Gonna test the 890 SMT next week for another video, will report my findings
Have to agree that the Transalp looks really budget and apparently the suspension is, so no go for me either.
I own a ktm 890 smt. What about a tour that also incorporates a track day? No idea if any one else would want that, but it sounds amazing to me...
650cc is all u ever really need. bigger bikes are heavier and just feel more like cars. light=fun
Certainly enjoying the 660 right now
Very good just got benekli 502 x
A surprisingly capable bike!
Nice video.
What did you think of the 901 expedition in terms of comfort and feeling the weight of the bike compared to the Tuareg?
Felt a little bit heavier, but the real turn off was the engine vibes at motorway speeds, followed by the price. More than 50% for the Expedition with the good suspension.
Ian at Big Rock Moto is rapidly approaching $20k on his Trans Alp build out… and it’s still not as good as a bone stock Tuareg…. As a side note, I too looked at replacing my 13 GSA with a 23/24 GSA… but at $30k in the US..as well as a noticeable “cheapening” of the build quality compared to my 13 GSA.. it was an easy pass… the Tuareg was a easy go to.. zero regrets..
Yeah, I've been watching that build! It's very cool, but no way I'd ever commit to that amount of effort while bikes like the Tuareg exist. Look for the next Brake Magazine review of the Tuareg, it's a corker (online later this week I think).
@@btgmoto
Yes sir !.. thanks for the heads up..
Having a 18’s 1200 GS i find myself looking at smaller bikes. Funny enough I met a couple of people with very good riding skills that went your path (GS->Touareg). Being an average rider I would need to test drive one to see if is only a good replacement if you are very skilled. Also, tbh I have limited access to trails around here so not sure it makes sense for a 90% road use.
Smaller bikes are easier to ride, not harder. Score that test-ride and let us know here what you thought!
I sold my GSA got a triumph 800 xca and no I don’t miss the bm at all I now ride a bike not a lump.
The weight of the GS is almost unnoticable... until you notice it every single day. Happy on my 660 now, for sure!
Big Rock moto is selling or sold their Transalp. So did Dork in the Road. I never got one in the first place. I decided on the higher teched out KTM790adv. So right decision against the Transalp
yeah, no regrets
Not missing the torque (on the mountain passes)?? My light-weight MT09 SP (optimized to 181,5 kgs wet and 117 whp) pulls like a freight train in any gear. 50 - 100 km/h in 5th in 2.20 - no need to down change...
Not yet... not yet
Thank you for your content, 🙏🎉😊
Literally my pleasure!
Hello BTG, new subscriber here, I really enjoyed your video and this format, have to say I don't know previous vids yet(!). But I have a question for you as an experienced rider: Do you thing Tuareg is a good first adventure bike? I have some experience on street bikes ~25kkm on CBF600, then few thousands on various roads in Indonesia on my small Yamaha XSR... Now thinking about going back to old good Europe I want to get an adventure bike. Common sense says: CB500X, heart goes: Tuareg or 790 Adventure... Should I be scared about size of this bike- has to say I am not strong person, 75kg / 178 cm, 0 muscle.
Sorry for this longish comment but I think you are the rightest person to ask.
Hi! So, here's my opinion. Unless you are limited by license (48hp), or budget, or insurance, there's no way I'd take a 500 over the 660 or 790. Those are all very real limitations for some people, but if you're free of them, then don't even bother with the 500X. Just my opinion. The principle reason I would give is that both the KTM and the Aprilia have very similar kerb weights to the 500X, while offering more advanced electronics, better suspension, and way more interesting motors! Out of the 790 and 660, I chose the Aprilia, guided mostly by comfort and price. The 790 is probably more hard-core off-road.
@@btgmoto this is kind of answer I wanted to see. Thanks mate!
Matter of fact I tried Transalp - it felt too big, I was intimidated by it's size and ugliness, then I tried 790 which was a perfect fit (but all used KTM's I saw looked heavy worn out). Tomorrow I'm going to check Tuareg, just to sit on it and feel the bike. You may be right, I am not limited by law, so why to limit myself, especially when weight is only +4kg in favor of NX500 vs Tuareg. One question, how does it handle on the road? Every review points brilliant off road abilities, but what about curvy roads? Would you take it to track as you did with GS?
It's really good, as good as you could ever hope for really. But DO take a screwdriver as the suspension is very adjustable compared to most Japanese bikes. Settings are in the handbook, but you do want a lot more damping on the smooth roads. It all dials in very quickly though. High quality suspension, for sure.
Warming to getting another motorcycle ( 20yr gap last bike), yep everone raves about transalp, its clearly really good, but it's just too Honda, top pf the list for me is a Suzuki vstrom 800, then i saw a Tuareg, its like first seeing Margo Robbie as Barbie, when you look onto ot, it really does seem that good, and very underrated. I haven't tried anything yet though.
Subscribed. I am interested in your experience with the Tuareg 660. I have already test drove it, but I would like to rent it for a weekend. Here the situation is similar, dealers still having bikes from 2022. Which brings up the question, what will be its used price after a couple of years...
Thanks for the sub! I actually have access to a fleet of rental Tuaregs in Andalusia, if you ever fancy the trip. It's a very valid point about the resale, and I'll be interested to see what the dealer says about the oil leak from the water pump when it goes for first service. No doubt that will be another video.
@@btgmoto According to forums, the oil leak problem resolved. Not remember that a new gasket required, or just proper torquing the bolts.
Surprised the Honda NX500 wasn't on the shortlist.
I have an old gs and it is the worst bike I ever had. To heavy is the main reason. Expensive parts. Not safe. Brembo brakes are the real shit and very dangerous. I had a crash because the brakes tightened by themselves / abs fault (so good I was drivning the bike myself) will I go back to GS? Absolutely no. Would I recommend it to anyone? It is comformtable on the road but like I said heavy bikes=dangerous bikes... People who are selling their GS are going with the Tenere 700 and then Husky 701... ktm 790/890... People are falling in love because of the "good look- beautiful design" but no more than that.. offroad People are laughing about GS because it have nothing to do with offroad bdcause of its weight. Like 260kg + luggage 300kg...
Wow! That's a lot to digest! What did you buy in the end?
If you want Aprilia 660, why not 😉
Love the comedy moustache 😊😊
The moustache appreciates it
11:23, oh good, my second-hand anxiety is still strong.
Don't look down...
Very good decision! The GS is boring like hell in Europe. The Aprilia is best in class because of disable the ABS 😅 and because of the great engine. Sure BMW GS has his features. But nobody need this features and it is a heavy cow! Regards from Germany
It's a few months later and I'm still loving the Tuareg more and more each day!
Go light? Shouldnt have mucked around, and should have bought a 690 Enduro. 150kg wet. And cheaper than a ToeRag as well. It would smash the Aprilia off road. Easily squeeze in the back of a Transit, and easy to accessorise - been around for years. Rade Garage even have kits to turn it into a proper rally raid bike as well🤘🏾
Oh I love them to bits, but I still have to ride 300km per day for a week at a time on my tours, and for that, the 690 was just not good enough. The Tuareg is a welcome step down from the GS, but can still do high-ish road speeds all day, and in comfort.
How would that lovely Tuareg cope with a really heavy rider? 203cm and 170kg+?
I think with that kind of weight, you should look at the bikes designed to carry two people regularly. My 1250 GS would cope with that, no problem at all. The Tuareg, I think would be a bit soggy
great video, do u think i can do the tet on a1050 suzuki v-strom or is it to heavy?
I think it depends on how difficult each section is, and also on the weather. It can be done, for sure. People do TET on much heavier and less capable bikes. Would I do it? I'm not sure. Look at Hessler, they do awesome off-road parts for the 1050
Thx
Nobody is saying it so get to say it, the engine sounds like a mixer. How is this thing in terms of reliability and maintenance costs? I guess doesnt come near a Japanese brand 😅
Yeah but the GS also sounds worse and had like 4 recalls 🤣 I like the Aprilia sound, it sounds like a race bike up top
jup pls load up the almeria track video.
Thanks!! You're the first guy to actually answer that question, either negative or positive :)
I have had nearly 30 bikes from fireblade sp1 R1 pan bmw1200rt s1000xr Multistrada 1260 blackbird but as I go pass 58 I m finding the bikes heavy my next will b downsize maybe mt09gt
It's funny how we bounce up and down the sizes over the years
Ho appena iniziato a vedere il video , e ho pensato subito questo tizio è un folle proprio come me, iscrizione al canale automatica dopo solo l'introduzione !!
Scrolled through the video rapidly because I was generally curious to see what the bike looked like, …and only saw your face, handlebars, and dirt.
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Yeah, I'm more of a ride it and talk about it guy. Will do more walk arounds in future!
Good for you
Thanks