Why Believing in God is the #1 Worst Thing for Man to Do | Jason Jorjani

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    Jason Jorjani is a philosopher & author who received his BA , MA & PhD at State University of New York at Stony Brook. Dr. Jorjani has taught courses on Comparative Religion, Ethics, Political Theory, and the History of Philosophy at the State University of New York.

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  • @DannyJonesClips
    @DannyJonesClips  2 месяца назад

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    Jason Jorjani is a philosopher & author who received his BA , MA & PhD at State University of New York at Stony Brook. Dr. Jorjani has taught courses on Comparative Religion, Ethics, Political Theory, and the History of Philosophy at the State University of New York.

  • @Needassistance
    @Needassistance Месяц назад +2

    Belief in God is the literal backbone of human society. When these reprobates say these things they literally discount all of human experience. Belief in God is innate to the human creature. It's not deliterious it's foundational.
    You can choose to hate God or believe God has no power or any other myriad of beliefs. But God is very real as it relates to the history of mankind.

  • @Anidominus
    @Anidominus 2 месяца назад +18

    There is this game called Cyberpunk 2077. You have the freewill to make many decisions in the game. However, it is the games creator that provides the choices. It is the games creator that knows what is going to happen based on the choices you make. You won't know until you experience those consequences.
    God is All Knowing because he knows everything that is knowable. He provides you the choice by the nature things are setup. The decisions belong to you. He knows the consequences of the decisions beforehand.

    • @BenSolomonIM
      @BenSolomonIM 2 месяца назад +2

      If he is all knowing, he already knows the decisions you will make, so you don't have free will, nor the ability to choose. It's not even free choice, as any choice except 1 will lead to 'eternal damnation'. So basically this 'god' character is playing cat and mouse with us, if it was true...

    • @Anidominus
      @Anidominus 2 месяца назад +2

      @@BenSolomonIM Why would God need to know what decision you will make if he already knows your choices and the outcome of any choice you make?

    • @BenSolomonIM
      @BenSolomonIM 2 месяца назад

      @@Anidominus, so you agree we don't have free will, it's all known by 'god' so 'predetermined'? Basically a rigged game.

    • @Guero677
      @Guero677 2 месяца назад

      @@Anidominus​​⁠there is free will. If there was no free will u wouldn’t think about ur actions. Wat God means by all knowing is not wat we can even fathom as ur looking at Gods power thru human lenses. When God is not the same as human. The way God can see all that happens is because he is not constrained to the time as we are. He would be im a dimension that is above us. So to try to break it down as best as possible he doesn’t make ur choices but reather it’s like this. Say ur in a house with no roof on it and he is looking from above ur house that is now open he sees all ur movements and choices at one time u are the one making said choices due to free will but he is able to see ur movement thru the house at one time. It’s hard to explain because I’m not God but to think God looks in to the future is thinking as if he was human. Every individual person makes he’s own choice in life but god is all knowing as he does not view time as we do as in one hour from now it will be 6:45pm he sees all playing out at once. That is y people think there is no free will. But God is not constricted to view time as we do.

    • @Anidominus
      @Anidominus 2 месяца назад

      @@Guero677 I didnt say there was no free will

  • @crypticnomad
    @crypticnomad Месяц назад +2

    That is an ancient debate. Hume significantly weakened arguments for the existence of religion, but it’s important to remember that even these critiques are based on human reasoning, which has its own limitations. We can replace "God is omnipotent" with "God is infinite" and arrive at similar conclusions as Jorjani does here. However, I think it’s also crucial to bring up Agrippa and his arguments against scholasticism. Agrippa, a mystic and a skeptic, argued that humans could not possibly reason their way to the divine and that even trying to do so was just an exercise in futility. His skepticism is highly relevant to this discussion because it underscores that both sides of the debate-whether for or against the existence of God-are ultimately relying on human reasoning, which Agrippa would argue is inherently flawed and limited.
    This perspective adds depth to the conversation, as it suggests that no matter how rigorous or logical the arguments are, they are all constructed within the bounds of human cognition, which might not be capable of truly understanding the divine or the concept of free will. In this sense, Agrippa’s critique can be seen as a reminder that the very tools we use to debate these issues are themselves subject to doubt.
    Furthermore, I think the discussion of free will versus determinism is somewhat incoherent to begin with. It's similar to saying "no context-free truth exists," which leads to a paradox because if that statement is true, then it is a context-free truth. The same sort of issue lies at the heart of the free will debate. Regardless of whether one claims that an omnipotent god, biology, or some other force controls their actions, or if they believe there is some "little person" in their head pulling the strings like a puppeteer, society treats them as if they are in control of their actions. Violating the law, for example, will most likely lead to punishment. So, practically speaking, regardless of whether we actually have free will, it is as if we do.
    By including Agrippa’s skepticism, we can see that the debate over free will and the existence of God may not just be unresolved but potentially unresolvable, given the limitations of human reasoning itself.

  • @ALEZANDAR
    @ALEZANDAR Месяц назад +2

    I am not religious nor an atheist! having said that Jason Jorjani is on to something, that in my own personal experience is beyond human comprehension; his perception of God is quite deep actually!! I am a bit disappointed thou, that a man with such eloquence denies the existence of a power beyond his own, and replaces with free will. In my own experience; we are all simultaneously controlled and evolve by a power beyond our own, not just our own free will. To deny that is pure arrogance. A tree can still be a tree; but it wouldn't be a tree, if it denies the existence of what made it into a tree in the first place! I am who I am not because of my own free will, but also the countless other influences that had shaped who I have become.

    • @buukkreider544
      @buukkreider544 19 дней назад

      From the beginning of the Adam race, the ENEMY used a very effective weapon against

      the Adam race, and it was two things about God: 1) Doubt God's Word; 2) Call God a Liar

      This is how it has been up until now - and now... people who have even been in The Church for many

      years are falling for the DECEIT of The DEVIL...


      Psalm 14:1-3 The Fool Does Not Want God

      1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

      2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

      3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.


      1Timothy 4:1-3 The Latter Times Men Depart From Faith

      1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

      2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

      3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


      2Timothy 3:1-5 The Last Days Signs

      1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

      2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

      3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

      4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

      5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.


      2Timothy 4:2-4 They Will Turn Their Ears from The Truth

      2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

      3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

      4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


      LACK OF FAITH

      Luke 18:8 The LORD JESUS --- Shall He Find Faith on Earth when He Returns?

      8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


      2Peter 3:3-7 Men Will Fall Away from the Faith

      3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

      4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

      5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

      6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

      7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.



      NOW IS THE TIME TO BELIEVE AND BE SAVED

      Acts 13:38,39 The Apostle Paul shows way of SALVATION

      38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

      39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.


      Believe on The Lord Jesus Christ that you might be saved.



      2Corinthians 4:2-7 The Gospel Hid to them that are Lost

      2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
      3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
      4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
      5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
      6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
      7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.


      Ephesians 2: 1-3 The Prince of The Power of The Air - Working in Children of Disobedience

      1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
      2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
      3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

      For those that are going against God's Word are those that are falling into the hands of the enemy. The Enemy hates God, but he cannot defeat God; therefore,
      he will do what he can to disturb God. One of the ways is to influence the Children of Adam to doubt God, then call God a liar - just like in the garden.

  • @sirchadiusmaximusiii
    @sirchadiusmaximusiii 2 месяца назад +34

    I was never religious. I played in bands like Danny when I was 16-20. Now a little older I see how some people never grow. Never grow out of crap music, never grow out of edgy teen angst. I would much rather be friends with a Christian stranger than past “hardcore” friends I’ve had and that’s a fact.

    • @stringbender3
      @stringbender3 2 месяца назад +6

      Okay chadius maximus

    • @sirchadiusmaximusiii
      @sirchadiusmaximusiii 2 месяца назад

      @@stringbender3Congrats, you understood a joke. Nothing gets past you.

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 2 месяца назад +1

      Same; I was an edgy little atheist, now I am not. You said it well brother.

    • @HASHxFaceBOXING
      @HASHxFaceBOXING 2 месяца назад +2

      Here’s a cookie 🍪

  • @jessewallace12able
    @jessewallace12able 2 месяца назад +17

    Belief in the God of the Old Testament is absurd. Belief in a power, a Creator, a Spirit- is on a whole different spectrum. This guest is brilliant btw

    • @Needassistance
      @Needassistance Месяц назад

      Fail.
      The old and new testament are the most verified and voluminous ancient documents we have of antiquity any where by a large margin. They are literally the foundation of every written word in western society and have shaped the organization of political, social systems , and judicial systems of our modern world. If you believe in a creator you shouldnt discount what the most protected version of that creators nature says about them. If ideas have hierarchy you should look into why it is that Christianity is the most wildly accepted version of that creator around the world. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water, and certainly don't put your faith in this charlatan joranji

  • @jameshirt7689
    @jameshirt7689 2 месяца назад +32

    It's all good buddy, I thought the same way. You haven't experienced bad enough times. From where you are now you can't imagine what the bottom will be like. That's where I found him at least. I ain't gonna argue. I know

    • @seasonedbeefs
      @seasonedbeefs 2 месяца назад +3

      Oh the arrogance

    • @darrenstreeton4237
      @darrenstreeton4237 2 месяца назад +4

      He does seem to find people that are on their knees....??why would he put you through that ... faith...🤔.I'm pleased for you that you're in a better place than before and I wish you well!

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 2 месяца назад

      I do not agree with him but that is an incredibly arrogant of you to say. You do not know this guys past or his story.
      I think Mr. Jorjani is a grifting weirdo and sexual degenerate but he has his reasons and they are just as valid as yours.
      What makes you so special or the authority? We can say the same things about you and God believers if I were to play devil's advocate.

    • @jaycvle
      @jaycvle 2 месяца назад +2

      Amen to that brother

    • @themidnightpoetryclub7663
      @themidnightpoetryclub7663 2 месяца назад +1

      You're admitting that the concept and belief in god is merely a crutch and coping mechanism for you

  • @dipo2142
    @dipo2142 Месяц назад +1

    God created man in his image,which also means you are the architect of your life. You have freewill.

  • @TheBigExclusive
    @TheBigExclusive 2 месяца назад +11

    OK. I'll take a stab at this, since the guy in the video lacks imagination. What if God is like a librarian at a library?
    He knows and has read every book (future possibilities) in the library. God let's visitors (humans) choose whatever book we want to rent. That's "free will".
    God doesn't tell us which book to read. He let's us choose. Sometimes we can ask (through prayer) for book recommendations, but it's up to us to choose the book we want.
    Since God has read every book inside the library, then he knows what's going to happen no matter what book we choose. That's how God knows the future.
    There. Problem solved. I fixed this man's mental dilemma.
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    It sounds like this man in the video just lacks imagination! 😂

  • @whiskeybuck8985
    @whiskeybuck8985 Месяц назад +2

    This guy has a great browser history

  • @levlz83
    @levlz83 2 месяца назад +8

    I love how controversial this topic is and how emotional people respond to this idea…the Bible is not what you think it is…

  • @darrenjames6309
    @darrenjames6309 2 месяца назад +1

    Does he have free will to think of a 9 digit number which cures cancer? No. Does he have free will to choose which music he loves? No. There's a million things we don't have free will over and it's fine. I'd happily have a joyful life even if I'm a puppet over a sad free life.

  • @MossySparks
    @MossySparks 2 месяца назад +3

    GOD or the Source is deeply engrained within us all for sure. We all create our reality through our collective consciousness and since we're all deeply connected to the source, well you get the idea. What's neat is how unfathomably complex it really is. There are multiple you's and they're all connected to the Source as well not to mention every conscious being around you. The amount of possibilities is staggering really.
    Then you get into the really fun Parapsychology possibilities. Since we're all connected, can we communicate through this connection? Seeing as how our alternate selves apparently all at one point were one single mind and branched off from there, is it reasonable to assume we are still connected with an unfathomably large number of our alternate selves? Could we perhaps pull from their intellect if we have something to offer the multi-universal hive mind that is YOU?
    All very fascinating stuff. And the answer is yes.

  • @KeithMacRowland
    @KeithMacRowland Месяц назад +1

    This guy is confusing God knowing what you will decide with thinking God controls you. Until God tells you what you wiil do, this is not a closed feedback loop. God keeps his future knowledge to himself, you are still free to think, judge and do whatever you want.

    • @Andrew-xk7zy
      @Andrew-xk7zy 26 дней назад

      If you believe god is all powerful, then he inherently controls everything even if deciding not to intervene which is his decision to approve what he already knows is going to happen rendering your personal agency MEANINGLESS. The purpose of freewill is to create meaning conflict which is the origin of all creativity.

  • @Axafolis
    @Axafolis 2 месяца назад +12

    Logic and reason is a scary thing for some

  • @jamessell1394
    @jamessell1394 Месяц назад

    Great interview with Dr. Jorjani. Very intellectual and powerful.

  • @Pudge4400
    @Pudge4400 2 месяца назад +11

    Yeah...I'll take my chances, thanks. This yahoo is about the LAST person I'd take advice from.

  • @123luoyi
    @123luoyi 2 месяца назад +2

    Good explanation tnx.

  • @TheBigExclusive
    @TheBigExclusive 2 месяца назад +9

    My kid likes strawberry ice cream. If we visit an Ice Cream shop, then I know she'll choose strawberry ice cream. That doesn't mean my kid doesn't have "free will". I let her choose whatever flavor she wants.
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    As her parent, that means I know her very well. 😂. I would think it's a similar situation to God and us.

    • @TheUnseenPath
      @TheUnseenPath 2 месяца назад +5

      You don't have a plan and aren't omnipotent or omniscient. xD

  • @shimmonsd
    @shimmonsd 2 месяца назад

    I have choices and I will be judged based on those choices.
    God's plan isn't affected by my choices.
    This guy is just fighting reality.

  • @allon33
    @allon33 2 месяца назад

    God has given us Jason and his word. Boom 💥

  • @glennc8991
    @glennc8991 2 месяца назад +59

    The complexity of the human body and the vastness of the Universe should be enough to believe in God.

    • @TheUnseenPath
      @TheUnseenPath 2 месяца назад +12

      Not necessarily, but I can see why you'd think that. Just say we don't know.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r 2 месяца назад +9

      Which one?

    • @3-methylindole730
      @3-methylindole730 2 месяца назад +3

      @glennc8991Just because our brains cannot explain life as it is too complicated for us, doesn’t mean that now something (e. g. god) suddenly has to exist. Also, we cannot prove the existence of god if we haven’t even come to a point where we have a definition of the very word „god“. What is a god?

    • @sharkawy70
      @sharkawy70 2 месяца назад +1

      God is everything, God is the creator and the creation. Everything is a reflection of the point(zero, nothingness). Panthesism or unity of existence is true. God is a great mathematician. God is a higher mind which created many lower minds.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r 2 месяца назад +4

      @@sharkawy70 which one?

  • @judyhickman5831
    @judyhickman5831 2 месяца назад

    I want to know what JJ thinks: if we believe we are responsible for all actions, who or what holds us responsible? A law of karma? ourselves as in our "higher selves"?

    • @judyhickman5831
      @judyhickman5831 2 месяца назад

      Maybe God knows all possibilities and probabilities of outcomes and what actually manifests in a given situation is the free will part ??

  • @28visions
    @28visions Месяц назад

    This man is %1000 decieved. He is way too smart to be this blind to the truth. May allah guide him to the truth and have mercy on his soul.

  • @chrisshore5340
    @chrisshore5340 2 месяца назад +7

    You forgot God is also timeless. He’s outside time.
    If I know what you did yesterday does that mean you had no free will?

    • @Guero677
      @Guero677 2 месяца назад

      Thank u this is wat I been trying to explain. People are think God looks in to the future because there thinking he is confined to the same time we are. In reality God would be outside of time viewing the world from a different dimension. He may be able to see all that happends at one time doesn’t mean that ur choice was made for u but rather u lived ur life made the choices u wanted to. He was just able to see all because he is not stuck to our linear time line as we know it.

    • @infonator1
      @infonator1 Месяц назад

      the-vedas-said-that-the-gods-could-not-grow-their-own-food.-that-is-where-humanity-comes-in-.we-are-their-food.-that-is-why-were-improtant-to-them.-since-the-gods-are-golums-they-rely-on-our-beliefs-to-exist.-they-also-need-our-emotions-and-blood-.hence-the-human/animal-blood-and-burnt-offerings.-consider-rust-cohls-rant-on-the-gods-and-how-they-couldnt-grow-their-own-food-so-they-created-us.-the-biblie-mentions-humans-as-a-harvest-68-times.-just-like-they-harvested-people-in-the-movie-jupiter-ascending.

  • @shturmovik3033
    @shturmovik3033 2 месяца назад +14

    Exactly…you don’t have free will, you only think you do.

    • @manuelshaul9244
      @manuelshaul9244 Месяц назад

      The man talking is exercising his free will to talk against GOD. If he didn't have that privilege to do GOD wouldn't be GOD. Don't your kids have a free will to listen to they parents or do what they want to do. That's a free will. GOD give us the ten commandments he doesn't force you to follow it. He give you a free will. In other words the choice is your. The of beast 666. Is when you don't have a free will your just obey or die. See the difference

  • @placidhead1
    @placidhead1 2 месяца назад +4

    There is no reason to believe that God is omnipotent because he can't create a square circle and therefore can't "do anything". There is no reason to believe God is omniscient because then we live in a universe that's like a closed book with infinite pages that are already written and there would be no change, yet we see evidence of change. I believe in an evolving and omnibenevolent God whose mind is like that of a Buddha, but cannot simply snap his fingers and save everyone from suffering. I believe in God because Robert Monroe who had countless out of body experiences (coined the term in fact) and invented the Gateway Process which the CIA uses to train psychic spies to this day said during his OBEs he came into contact with Source. He said everyone "breaks off" from it (or experiences separation from it) and eventually returns to it. Advaita Vedanta would say this separation is an illusion (Atman (small self) is Brahman (God)), though.

  • @HashaitanHashedin-x5o
    @HashaitanHashedin-x5o 27 дней назад

    In Bhagavad Gita chapter 3 Krishna actually afirms that those who think that they are the doers are in illusion. Everything is being done by what is called gunas or modes of material nature. Therefore he is denying all freedom and free will.

  • @kalinamasash1137
    @kalinamasash1137 2 месяца назад

    The best video I've ever listened to.

  • @stringbender3
    @stringbender3 2 месяца назад

    There’s lots of ways to think of what God is. You can think it’s the universe itself and we are all apart of it. Or that it is the truth and all that is good. Or creator that is also outside of it but also apart of it. It’s beyond human comprehension, many dimensions who knows, who feels it knows it. They are figures of speech. God and Devil and how they work are very real no matter what. You can base it off just reality of how the universe and our minds and spirits work or you can believe beyond it. Either way it’s very real. Don’t gain the world and lose your soul, Wisdom is better than silver and gold. When you do evil it will eat you from the core out and you won’t even realize what you are missing. It’s very real. Our core being could already be in different dimensions but we only see visible light and the material world. But are surrounded by hell or heaven with free will, without realizing it, then when die you fade into where you already are but realize it’s where you’ve been and you made it yourself

  • @kevinbrown3593
    @kevinbrown3593 2 месяца назад

    This is where logical thinkers go wrong but the same people say there is no time or space so there for there's no one before god and god don't deal in future and past it's all now the only time that exists.

  • @Guero677
    @Guero677 2 месяца назад

    ⁠there is free will. If there was no free will u wouldn’t think about ur actions. Wat God means by all knowing is not wat we can even fathom as ur looking at Gods power thru human lenses. When God is not the same as human. The way God can see all that happens is because he is not constrained to the time as we are. He would be im a dimension that is above us. So to try to break it down as best as possible he doesn’t make ur choices but reather it’s like this. Say ur in a house with no roof on it and he is looking from above ur house that is now open he sees all ur movements and choices at one time u are the one making said choices due to free will but he is able to see ur movement thru the house at one time. It’s hard to explain because I’m not God but to think God looks in to the future is thinking as if he was human. Every individual person makes he’s own choice in life but god is all knowing as he does not view time as we do as in one hour from now it will be 6:45pm he sees all playing out at once. That is y people think there is no free will. But God is not constricted to view time as we do.

  • @keviniverson2835
    @keviniverson2835 Месяц назад

    You can believe whatever you want the truth doesn't care what you believe

  • @PUPPYBONZ
    @PUPPYBONZ 2 месяца назад +23

    Satan is a liar .

    • @Edk3689
      @Edk3689 2 месяца назад

      Yes Satan is God he rules this planet…

    • @boundedgod6259
      @boundedgod6259 2 месяца назад +4

      So are the tribe

  • @TheHealingChefs
    @TheHealingChefs 2 месяца назад

    Just because you have a destination doesn't mean you don't have a choice on how to get there.

  • @leegee4275
    @leegee4275 Месяц назад

    What if God created the illusion of free will? Saying emphatically that there is no God is a very unscientific way of living one’s life.

  • @Nick-tl7ts
    @Nick-tl7ts 2 месяца назад +15

    You're all thinking of god as a person and that's the dumbest shit you can do if thinking about a topic like this

  • @Koenshakuable
    @Koenshakuable 5 дней назад

    It's the word 'believe' that bears examination.

  • @areolabunmi7111
    @areolabunmi7111 Месяц назад

    When God created man he gave them free will to continue live in total happiness or hurt themselves knowing what will be the consequence of their actions, who is to be blame, God or humans that choose to hurt themselves, if men had choose to continue to live happily for billions of years, God would have allow it if that is what they want

  • @edricheson
    @edricheson 2 месяца назад

    This guy perceives he knows God…
    God said, For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

  • @classicalmechanic8914
    @classicalmechanic8914 2 месяца назад +16

    Bible actually says God gave human the greatest gift which is free will.

    • @ikestrawman4625
      @ikestrawman4625 2 месяца назад +2

      that's true but it can't be true in reality

    • @classicalmechanic8914
      @classicalmechanic8914 2 месяца назад

      @@ikestrawman4625 If there was no free will, there would not be any people that think free will exist.
      Also god can be all knowing about past and present but not all knowing about the future.
      Scientific community is plagued by notions of classical mechanics that god does not play dice. But the truth is god is a gambler, knowing all the games that were played in the past an present but god still cannot predict the future completely without some uncertainty that is always present when you do the measurement.

    • @crushinnihilism
      @crushinnihilism 2 месяца назад +2

      But the serpent gave man free will. It was against God's grace

    • @classicalmechanic8914
      @classicalmechanic8914 2 месяца назад

      @@crushinnihilism The serpent gave man serpent's will which is not the same as free will.
      Free will emerges from person's own duty not to do something you don't want others to do to you.
      People who think there is no free will, lack this notion because they gaslight people to create chaos which arises from lack of accountability.
      No free will is the serpent's will because it reduces you to the cog in the machine and erases your humanity.

    • @crushinnihilism
      @crushinnihilism 2 месяца назад

      @classicalmechanic8914 you can't have a duty unless you have the knowledge of good and evil granted by the serpent
      Before the serpent Man was a COG in the machine.
      You're either a bot or havnt read the Bible

  • @cheyennealvis8284
    @cheyennealvis8284 2 месяца назад

    It's crazy. He's talking about authoritarian communism. And this "god" being the government.

  • @standardgigachad3297
    @standardgigachad3297 2 месяца назад +21

    Christ is King.

    • @ollonskall3
      @ollonskall3 2 месяца назад +3

      King of balls

    • @deason2365
      @deason2365 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ollonskall3 and atheism is the king of eunuchs

    • @donaldmiller8727
      @donaldmiller8727 2 месяца назад +4

      King of nothing

    • @ollonskall3
      @ollonskall3 2 месяца назад +1

      @deason2365 oh I believe in a god, just not your joke god

    • @deason2365
      @deason2365 2 месяца назад

      @ollonskall3 Oh yeah, what's the name of your god

  • @scrabbymcscrotus7481
    @scrabbymcscrotus7481 Месяц назад

    the soul surely exist and therefor does god. Its really that simple.

  • @0xyc0dwrestling
    @0xyc0dwrestling 2 месяца назад

    respectfully the first thing that came out of his mouth is what God said he gave us “FREE WILL”🗿

  • @ashcomics13
    @ashcomics13 Месяц назад

    God's omniscience encompasses all dimensions of time-past, present, and future-and extends to the choices we would freely make under any circumstances. This absolute knowledge is an essential attribute of the Divine, without which God would not fulfill the definition of divinity. A critical misunderstanding, particularly highlighted by Jason Reza, lies in conflating God's foreknowledge with determinism. He fails to distinguish between God's perfect awareness of our actions and the responsibility for those actions. The autonomy granted to humanity through free will is a fundamental tenet of divine justice, allowing us to choose our paths independently. The fact that God foresees our choices does not imply that He chooses them; rather, it underscores His transcendence and the integrity of our moral agency. The Quran unequivocally affirms that God has endowed us with free will, and it is through the exercise of this free will that we will ultimately determine our own eternal destinies.

  • @charlescowan6121
    @charlescowan6121 2 месяца назад

    Its like a soap opera; the future is written and filmed the week of broadcast. And if you ever saw tootsie you know that you can go off script and they'll keep filming. Thus we have free will, if that helps. We can always go off script, you can call out, and they'll just have to film without you.
    Being human is be habitual, no matter what catastrophe is underway, we still go to work because they're depending on you. Ok well when your kid is sick aren't they depending on you? So instead of being there for them, we pass them off onto someone else because your job at the string bean shipping container factory is far more important.

  • @pallmall7385
    @pallmall7385 2 месяца назад +1

    What this guy doesn't know is that believing in "GOD" is the key to having actual free will. The devil is the mind controller. He'll never find out where to get free will if he doesn't know God.

    • @katrbudz892
      @katrbudz892 2 месяца назад

      The devil and God in your mind are actually you yourself... Nothing more than you exist in the world external or internal... Physical or spiritual

    • @gusgarcia4131
      @gusgarcia4131 2 месяца назад

      @@katrbudz892thank you! The dude above didn’t get that part 😂

    • @richr905
      @richr905 2 месяца назад

      So if the devil is mind controller as you say …it’s makes perfect sense because he CONTROLS your mind….he controls the minds of the MASS COLLECTIVE…and he controls it by making YOU believe that there is a God looking out for you when there is not….i mean this is profound how believing in “god” with just faith and no evidence literally makes the individual the prisoner and the prison guard of his/her consciousness…-amazing

  • @cheyennealvis8284
    @cheyennealvis8284 2 месяца назад +1

    Infinite states and infinite realities.

  • @gregquigley3000
    @gregquigley3000 2 месяца назад

    When a baby sea turtle is hatched. Does God know that the baby turtle will make it to the water and survive ? And if it does will the baby turtle not be eaten by a fish and live 100 years ?

  • @floriangeyer1886
    @floriangeyer1886 Месяц назад

    Jorjani has a Manichean-Augustinian-Calvinist conception of God.

  • @Kronsdorf
    @Kronsdorf 2 месяца назад +1

    Jason Jorjani's argument is coherent within the framework of Aristotelian logic, which governs our human thinking and all of science. But there may be multiple "logics" outside of our human minds. Entanglement in quantum physics, for example, contradicts prevailing Aristotelian logic. Quantum logic contradicts Aristotelian logic. In dreams, while we sleep, sometimes things appear that make perfect sense within the "framework of dream logic", but that make no sense at all after waking up. Is God all-powerful? Can he create such a heavy stone that he himself cannot lift? According to Aristotelian logic, God's omnipotence leads to contradictions, but this does not have to be the case in quantum logic or in "dream logic" or in any other logic.

  • @Lana-kh5nj
    @Lana-kh5nj 2 месяца назад

    Don’t believe this guy God is your creator honor him, love him and fear him. Only Jesus can save you ❤

  • @qanishque
    @qanishque 2 месяца назад +1

    you see the first intention was unintended.

  • @manuelshaul9244
    @manuelshaul9244 Месяц назад

    People are crazy. When you all were kids you had a choice to listen to your parents or not. That's free will. What is he talking about about.

  • @khaledtharwt
    @khaledtharwt 2 месяца назад

    He is right

  • @judyhickman5831
    @judyhickman5831 2 месяца назад

    O.k. JJ if a belief in "God" is counter to notion of free will, so forget "God" and now free will is ours, who or what gives us free will?

  • @user-qx8op7pn1o
    @user-qx8op7pn1o 2 месяца назад +1

    Dr.Jason is absolutely right on this!

  • @TheJoker-um9tp
    @TheJoker-um9tp Месяц назад

    The west moved on from christianity too capitalism, money is now holy , especially the us , even the word profit is used , in religion a prophet brings enlightenment, saves us , brings peace and prosperity, just as profit in business we are told brings the same things

  • @TONYPARAMOTOR
    @TONYPARAMOTOR 2 месяца назад

    gods yes. and a supreme creator.

  • @jonathanpham7397
    @jonathanpham7397 2 месяца назад

    GOD knows cause its a cycle that happens over and over. thats how God knows.

  • @neilarmitage6632
    @neilarmitage6632 2 месяца назад

    Well said guy

  • @nataliaobrien1393
    @nataliaobrien1393 2 месяца назад

    Just what I thought it would be - an attempt to explain god's consciousness with logic. Impossible. Get your personal spiritual experiences first and THEN I wanna hear how you feel about god. From where you are right now it can't be done. Which is OK. We all are where we are, it's ok and that's how it should be. All good.

  • @phillipblair9511
    @phillipblair9511 2 месяца назад

    How about hands-off Deism?
    or agnostic like St Thomas?

  • @tomn52jz53
    @tomn52jz53 2 месяца назад +2

    Has anyone noticed the algorithm and general view on a religion specifically Christianity, which has recently increased exponentially, like never before from all areas and demographics… and even more so the opposition which leads the fight and attack on Christianity - Open till now, I’ve never noticed how much of an effort is invested to attack this religion in comparison to others.. makes you think what is the reason and motive behind this..🧐

    • @hawaiianwood4114
      @hawaiianwood4114 Месяц назад

      Many false prophets will arise in the end. Same with all these historical artifacts that have been dug up. It from Satan. He doesn’t touch on prophecy either and why it becomes fact. Be careful

    • @hawaiianwood4114
      @hawaiianwood4114 Месяц назад

      He has an interesting perspective. But they all do. Just enough at times to question your our beliefs. Hmmm.

    • @MikesChannel1108
      @MikesChannel1108 Месяц назад

      Psyop
      Billy Graham was CIA and he made Christianity big in America

  • @corbentaylor7825
    @corbentaylor7825 Месяц назад

    Jorjani needs to get past the paradigm of the Ego and the belief that he has some degree of separation from the unified All. As long as you're stuck in this dualistic mindset then it's all about trying to prove to yourself that you have some kind of "free will" and that you mean something more to the cosmos than the tree that stands quietly in your garden just Being.

  • @Austinite333
    @Austinite333 2 месяца назад

    Maybe this god is a type of ai and created the game board we play on? Just a thought.

  • @mrich21087
    @mrich21087 18 дней назад

    Sounds like he perfectly understands what God must be like in order to be God and then dismisses the possibility of this God existing based on God’s falling short of being like his conception of God. Sounds like he thinks he is God.
    You didn’t even will yourself into existence, so your idea of free will non violation is already non-existent.

  • @antoniobabb4569
    @antoniobabb4569 2 месяца назад

    Not knowing the existance of God is the stupidest thing ever. We aren't alone we cant create our own sand or mud or planets. Demons entities are real most accounts of strange phenomena happens. Agencies knows of it and with experiments as well. I know theres a God the most high we cant simply come from nowhere. I high being has to be really smart to come up with such.

  • @knuckle8489
    @knuckle8489 2 месяца назад

    The Big Bang relies on a miracle

  • @morbidfaulkner7872
    @morbidfaulkner7872 Месяц назад

    Academics spend too much time in school.

  • @villevanttinen908
    @villevanttinen908 2 месяца назад

    Did Jorjani just contradict himself, isn´t his whole Prometheus project speaks of transgressing God / gods? Now he says he doesn´t believe in God at all? Of course there is God (law) in order to transgress it/ Him? What is point of rebellion (which prometheus is) if there is now God?

  • @sheriffmohammed3885
    @sheriffmohammed3885 2 месяца назад +3

    In reality, if you consider the scale of the universe , we really are nothing but a spec of dust.

  • @GentleJunk
    @GentleJunk 2 месяца назад

    Such a lame argument that high school students wouldn't use it after 3 beers. God has mind? So many wanted to destroy god on free will argument but can't mix berries and flower. Different disciplines...

  • @johnjon1823
    @johnjon1823 2 месяца назад

    That guy does not know shit about God and even less about angels. Sad really. God is not hard to find. He walked the earth as a man in the person of Jesus.

  • @AlexYenom305
    @AlexYenom305 2 месяца назад +1

    God knows the future because he's outside of space and time. This does NOT mean YOU don't have free will. You are still making your own decisions.

    • @ik1408
      @ik1408 2 месяца назад +3

      Religion teaches that God DECIDES the future. This is called the Divine Plan. Hence, you don't have free will.

  • @Y.0o0
    @Y.0o0 2 месяца назад

    |||||Let’s
    |||||See
    God

  • @aaron0000123
    @aaron0000123 2 месяца назад +14

    I feel pity for any man who denies God.

    • @ryanfristik5683
      @ryanfristik5683 2 месяца назад +2

      I feel pity for u who believe in a fictional tyrant

    • @marcsaintgermain7870
      @marcsaintgermain7870 Месяц назад

      I feel pity that you dont open your fucking mind

    • @Needassistance
      @Needassistance Месяц назад

      ​@@ryanfristik5683that's not the nature of God. That's a lie told to you through our secular world and degenerates like joranji. If you've come to that conclusion about faith and the belief in the divine you've either never read the book or have read just enough to pervert it to fit your broken and untenable world view. Spiritual skepticism is the mark of juvenile thinking. The petulant child who believes they've Got it figured all out. But the truth of the matter is that the fear of god is the beginning of wisdom.
      I suggest you do yourself a favor and diversify your consumption of media and be weary of aligning yourself with a materialistic world view which changes every 100 years in its declarations about the nature of reality. And not discount whole cloth the thousands of years of evidence we have regarding faith and biblical truth.

  • @chelsgundlach3545
    @chelsgundlach3545 4 дня назад

    To me, God is not a single being. God is the will of life throughout all dimensions. The description of the humanistic, jealous, flawed Zeus god with lower case g is not what God is to me. The light of God is within us and Jesus was meant to teach us there is more to life than we know in our third dimensional plane

  • @buukkreider544
    @buukkreider544 19 дней назад

    Scholars and Theologians Deceived


    In The Time Of John the Baptist and Jesus Christ

    Matthew 3:1-12 John The Baptists warns Sanhedrin

    1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,

    2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

    3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

    4 And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.

    5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

    6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

    7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

    8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

    9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

    10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

    11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

    12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.


    Matthew 23:13-39 The Lord Jesus says 'Woe to The Pharisees and Scribes!'

    13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

    14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

    15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

    17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

    18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

    19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

    20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

    21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

    22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

    23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

    25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

    26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

    27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

    28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

    29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

    30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

    31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

    32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

    33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


    The Scholars and Teachers in time of John The Baptist and Jesus Christ, even so... Today.

  • @jamesallen5138
    @jamesallen5138 2 месяца назад +4

    The greatest gift from God is eternal life 2nd greatest is free will, how we use that free will is why there's evil in the world

    • @dustinwarender8955
      @dustinwarender8955 2 месяца назад

      From.
      What I can tell there's evil in the world as a result of a need for balance of energy. This is a result of freewell

  • @billyshears7631
    @billyshears7631 2 месяца назад

    word salad too . good day to you Dan 👍

  • @CedarloreForge
    @CedarloreForge Месяц назад

    Faulty frail flimsy failing and funny “logic” here. All this clip did was solidify my belief and gratitude towards God. 😂🙏
    What’s the one verse?:
    “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’ They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.”
    ‭‭- Psalms‬ ‭14‬:‭1‬

  • @JtJt-qr2ru
    @JtJt-qr2ru 2 месяца назад

    Well obviously if you choose the stupidest mainstream definition it's wrong. A more Indo-European pluralist view, I think allows for a more distributed agency both within as without.

  • @SuperGabrielCastle
    @SuperGabrielCastle 2 месяца назад +4

    This sounds like very human conclusion. We can’t even comprehend what god does

    • @infonator1
      @infonator1 Месяц назад

      if-god-knows-the-future-then-he-knows-your-responses.then-why-test-you-as-the-apologectics-say.-an-imperfect-demiurge-rules-us.-to-consume-our-emotions-or-conscious-energy.watch-rust-cohls-rant-on-the-gods-that-cant-grow-their-food-in-a-non-linear-time-reality.-True-Detectie-season-one.

  • @ericcartman7253
    @ericcartman7253 2 месяца назад

    do not be decieved

  • @edhughes6854
    @edhughes6854 2 месяца назад

    Didn’t this guy contradict himself a couple of times when he was trying to. Impress us using those big words.

  • @pico4009
    @pico4009 2 месяца назад +1

    Im not religious but bro is speakin nonsense 😭

  • @hotrodjose
    @hotrodjose 2 месяца назад

    Viva Cristo Rey

  • @dustinwarender8955
    @dustinwarender8955 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow this guy really doesn't understand the logical aspects of god and eternity and how god could live outside of eternity in order to access an entire timeline

  • @kellyrasdel9352
    @kellyrasdel9352 2 месяца назад +2

    If we don't have free will, then how come you have the ability to choose to believe in God or not to believe in God? This guy is stupid.

    • @youtubeaccount2726
      @youtubeaccount2726 2 месяца назад

      He said there is no god because we have free will

  • @Mylove_94
    @Mylove_94 2 месяца назад +9

    Exactly…I was a Christian and now I’m free.

    • @Edk3689
      @Edk3689 2 месяца назад +2

      You Go Buddy Bravo 👏 i did this too was Christian 39 years and dam i was scammed !!!

    • @richr905
      @richr905 2 месяца назад

      @@Edk3689I mean ALL it takes is for one to NOT BE BRAINWASHED as a child to the start the journey in CLEAR AND LOGICAL THINKING….but it’s very clear that these Overlords discovered the most efficient technique to keep us mentally enslaved for generations….and that IS THE BELIEF IN SOME DIETY OR GOD OUTSIDE OF ONES OWN CONSCIOUSNESS

    • @28visions
      @28visions Месяц назад

      You're both decieved. Good luck in the afterlife.

  • @keviniverson2835
    @keviniverson2835 Месяц назад

    Truly you people don't believe in free will 3:15

  • @darrenjames6309
    @darrenjames6309 2 месяца назад

    Yes Christianity is pure cognitive dissonance and utterly immortal

  • @fluffykittens4725
    @fluffykittens4725 2 месяца назад +1

    ☦️☦️☦️☦️☦️

  • @timesup8196
    @timesup8196 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh and God is Not a Man! Love the Mother and father and Sun! Haha bye bye ..

  • @coryryder9070
    @coryryder9070 2 месяца назад

    and he didnt try to understand bible and story of angels and more obviously

  • @tonyaugust4749
    @tonyaugust4749 2 месяца назад

    Obviously a deep thinker and reasonable guy , but of course some of your views are product of your own imagination , cause we all do , but we sure did not evolve from fish , yeast , germs , etc there is a ultimate creator , mankind always twist and turn , add and subtract from the words of the messengers .

  • @BillyAsWell
    @BillyAsWell 2 дня назад

    Google the Missionaria Protectiva.