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The Lost Level of Super Mario Galaxy: Starman Fort
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
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Super Mario Galaxy has a lot of unused assets within its files... But perhaps the most perplexing scrapped planet is Starman Fort. This massive level was a place that developers were super passionate about, but ultimately, the idea was abandoned... But why? Given what is left over, it is possible to reassemble what was left behind to see what this level once looked like... And I have to say, this beta level is impressive! Join me for a guided tour behind this scrapped level in Super Mario Galaxy that never saw the light of day!
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Credits and sources:
Level reconstruction by CaptainByte.
Written by SwankyBox.
Filmed and edited by SwankyBox and Stowgee.
Additional audio editing by Seeraphis.
Songs from Super Mario Galaxy OST's
"Space Junk Galaxy" - SMG1
"Buoy Base Galaxy" - SMG1
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The modding community needs to do a fonctionnal level of this
Same. It'd take some doing I bet, but it'd be enjoyable to see.
I would mind waiting years for having a finished starman fortress
And the four-legged Megaleg V2 (Gigaleg?)! His battle should be a lot longer and more challenging than the first Megaleg battle...
@@Dreigonix "Boss Crab"
If they could restore Sonic Adventure's Beta Windy Valley, I don't see why not this.
I wonder if there's an alternate universe where my RUclips username is StarmanFort.
Underrated comment
Did you name yourself this just for the comment
Did you comment yourself this just for the name
@@choppiemcdonald its been 2 months. Thats a lot of dedication over a comment if they did change it.
I wonder if there's an alternate universe where youtube user StarmanFort left a comment on a video about the scrapped Buoy Base.
My theory is that Starman Fort was a possible design for the hub world. Rosalina would live in the castle, the toads on the disk, the rocket would be how Mario would travel, and I think the moons are just for the aesthetic. The big stars would be where grand stars would go. With all the power stars you collect, you gradually restore power to it and get more materials to upgrade the rocket.
That actually makes a lot of sense, but why was megaleg just hanging out on the bottom there?
@@michaelbailey1242 Maybe he was a tutorial boss, you needed to defeat him to "free" the hub
Michael Bailey Maybe it was not originally a boss?
Michael Bailey what I just said, right on brotha
doubt
Could you show us more of these? There’s so many mysteries about this masterpiece of a game and planets are one of the biggest things that have gotten makeovers or have been removed
Agreed
Also try to mix smg1 and smg2 files together and play it on dolphin emulator
Dude wouldn't that be cool if they released SMG remaster on switch with few new levels and guess who would be one...
666th like.
This course is like Whomp's Fortress, and Bouy Base Galaxy.
Attack of the Airships Theme has a Star Wars Reference like Imperial March.
Of course!
Throwbuoy galaxy
It seems to me like the fortress was designed with a similar mindset to levels in Sunshine & 64, but as they switched to the level design of the original game, elements & concepts from the level were split off into other galaxies, eventually leaving Buoy Base as the only part of the fort to remain in the same level.
This makes me wish for SMG 3 on the switch where the stronger hardware for massive levels like this one
We need galaxy 3 and sunshine 2
Yes
Imagine a massive level with 6 stars
I'd prefer odyssey 2 or sunshine 2
Nathan yes please, I like the course games more than the games like odyssey
I can just imagine the devs watching this with the biggest smile on their face
And nintendo lawyers with dollarsigns too...
Did you know what 100 million subs mean?
They probably can't understand english.
@ISABELLA ABALOS what
I just imagine Nintendo trying their hardest to delete this video, as per all Nintendo content on youtube
That’s to bad I would have loved to play this level
Maybe someone will make a finished level for us to play!
Is there like a modded community for that kinda stuff
Me too...
Yep..... I can only assume the only reason it wasn’t in the final game was because of issues with optimising......
@@Ecb23 like they could put in Luigi in mario 64 so they could prob do it
This would be cool to see someone actually try to mod this level back to its “working” state. If I knew more I’d honestly do it but sadly I’m not that skilled. Regardless, this is super cool to see. Thank you for sharing and keep up the amazing work.
Use Dreams
Charziken909 no
“I’m not that skilled” = “I’m lazy”
Everyone starts somewhere. Talent alone can only take you so far if you don’t hone it. The person that remodelled and hacked into this didn’t necessarily start out reconstructing things like this well and right the first time around and there’s a lot of practice it took to get to this stage that you don’t see.
I’m not that skilled at computer coding because it doesn’t come naturally to me, nor can I be bothered. I could learn and refine it if I wanted to, but I choose not to because it doesn’t interest or benefit me otherwise. It doesn’t mean I’m inherently unable to learn to become better because I’m currently “unskilled”.
toad computer coding as opposed to ___ coding? jk jk
That awfully reminds me of whomps fortress from 64 even though they brought it back as throwback galaxy.
Also fun fact: megaleg’s original name was sniffit bot. Why I mentioned this is because he was on the bottom of the fort even though you already mentioned it.
I think that's what they ended up making.
This definitely looks like it'd be a CLASSIC stage that I would've marveled at with my little kid eyes. Seeing stuff like this makes me want a Galaxy 3 so we can really explore more grand planets like this
I wonder if the reason why the concept art showed cables connecting the yellow platform to the roof was because in this very early level design, they planned to have you become electricity and ride the wire, an idea that then turned up in Odyssey? Would explain why the platform had electricity symbols all over it too, not the mention the "antenna" looks kind've like the pylons in Odyssey!
A scrapped Power-Up, perhaps!
Remaking this in odyssey's engine as a tribute to galaxy through a hack would be awesome
Very late response but that's exactly what I was thinking too! And I'm honestly surprised it wasn't speculated on in the video itself given the wires and symbols. Reusing scrapped ideas in different forms is something Nintendo devs talk about a lot with their big series. It wouldn't be surprising for them to have come up with the idea for this, then remember it during Odyssey's development and see how it was a perfect fit for the capture mechanic. It doesn't make much sense in the context of Galaxy's mechanics but it still would have been very interesting
This level seems really amazing. The castle in general might've given inspiration for the castle on Rosalina's home planet, a.k.a. Gateway Galaxy. The side-planet that isn't a moon feels like either a secret star accessed through a hungry luma or a starting planet with a launch star. The landing pad could've had Captain Toad's ship land there during missions. I feel like this level could have fit into the game really well as maybe a Bedroom galaxy, and it's a true shame that it was removed from the final release. If I were an expert modder, I might recreate this level in my vision, but unfortunately I'm not.
Wait, what castle in Gateway Galaxy? What side-planet that isn't a moon?
boss crab will be the hardest thing to build from skratch
What Castle on Rosalina's home planet?!
I wonder if this was scrapped due to the immense size of it, as well as the fact that it really doesn't fit the theme of the overall game
Dreadnought galaxy? Are you sure, that thisngs HUGE
@@vicjaxon4474 But you barely explore the main structure of Dreadnought galaxy just the outside of it and surrounding planetoids.
say that to throwback galaxy in SMG2
But look at the Throwback Galaxy, Battlerock Galaxy and the Bowser levels. They're huge...
What’s the theme?
Due to megaleg being at the bottom I wonder if the first Bowser Jr level was originally supposed to be much longer. Or maybe this was before megaleg was a grand star boss.
This could be a rematch
Well I think that it is like the cat bowser fight in 3D world when you climb a building to fight him that is my guess
Super Mario Galaxy: The Lost Levels.
Also, I thought that the Star in the skybox for the star ship was a secret level. Anyone else wonder about that star...?
Noober Same! I was disappointed to find out it was nothing...
This is probably one of the best Mario games I have ever played. I have so many memories with my dad just playing this as a young child. It almost makes me tear up thinking about it. ily dad :)
it would be awesome if they remastered smg for the switch and added this level in its full glory
Ayyyyyyyyyy
I’d do anything for that...
georgie rose ?
@@supermariogalaxymusic3998 Super mario galaxy 1 and 2 and SM sushine are already on switch
Alexander Serrano no they’re not
That's so cool! The fact that you guys were able to piece it back together is so amazing! It's too bad that the beta Megaleg doesn't appear or function...
Starman fort? Well I'm going be wasting my time grinding for the sword of kings
lasloser mc useless haha... nice
My man Poo needs ALL of his Kingly items.
This is the completion bonus Super Mario Galaxy should have had in Super Mario 3D All-Stars!
I hope we'll get some unused/scrapped content in these Mario remasters coming to Switch.
I absolutely love Mario Galaxy games so seeing this is really something.
Would be neat to reimplement that level in an actual hack and "finish" it
Or bring it back in a third installment...
jaymowil or the possible remake
I'd love to see a mod that fully and usably imports Starman Fort to the game, Megaleg and all
These kinds of things are what get me into creating fangames of my own. I love to see what the creators never used, and I want to see and somehow implement it into my own works. I especially love Super Mario Galaxy, and if I had any game knowledge at all, I would use it to create my fangame idea: Super Mario Hyperspace. It's a fangame that's essentially SMG3, but it's Galaxy-themed space and planet exploration with Odyssey physics, a new foe and all this other story stuffs I haven't entirely planned out. Mario goes on an adventure with Cappy through all kinds of planets....
Of course, if I could make it a reality, I'd hunt for hours through unused levels in Mario games--especially ones like this. And I'd design or redesign or change them to match things. But I can't...
Hearing "Starman" really makes me think if Nintendo ever considered inserting the enemies from the Mother series as a neat Easter-egg in the SMG games, after all, they were from outer space
Anytime I hear "Lost Level" associated with Mario, I stay far FAR away.
Then how are you commenting this?
seeing your pfp makes me think i should stay away
Clearly not this time
Lost Levels killed my family
flashbacks to SMB: Lost Levels
Damn, that was very cool! I love the fact that the boss would just be lurking beneath the level the entire time.
Really creepy in a way.
Man, this fort has so much put in to it I would've killed to see it make it's way into the main game.
Maybe this level could be in the Remaster every one is talking about 😂
Im sad that this leveled insent playable but this video made me subscribe
Looks really open, just like I like it.
Today: Starman Fort
Tomorrow: Mushroomperson House
Sounds like a place for drugs
@@DuskyDawn what? Lol.
@@Chocoly hallucinogenic mushrooms
That's literally just a Toad House
good one
I remember playing mario galaxy 1 and 2 when I was 5 everyday and listening to the music and seeying level brings me back.. and it makes me feel really chill..
Seeing Megaleg in the bottom of this level makes me think that this could've been a SICK boss level
I mean, Megaleg's actual boss level lasts for like, *_one whole minute,_* so this would've been a huge improvement
Christopher Moon this might have been his original appearance or at least the earliest appearance we know of so far. His name might have been sniffit bot if this level was completed. It also reminds me of diggaleg which was used for galaxy 2, why it does is that diggaleg drills and digs stuff. In the book it mentioned that there were resource excavations. Maybe megalegs or sniffit bots real role was resource excavation.
It's always sad to see levels that never get added to the game.
Funny that the lost levels in Mario aren't gone but this level is gone.
It's almost sad but as swanky said its lost but not forgotten.
It looks to be the size of the Freeze flame mountain
i would love to see a fully restored version of starman fort with a couple of stars like the fight with "bosscrab" or restoring electricity to the helipad/lift and saving a toad (possibly the captian toad) , it's just such a good level going to waste
You’ve made so many Mario Galaxy videos, and you just now noticed this. Just goes to show how many mysteries this game has
Woah, it would be amazing if this were included in the remake for Switch
So we just ignoring the fact, that the spaceship kinda looks like the Hocotate from Pikmin?
CrashFluffy That's an intended easter egg, since the ship is actually used in Space Junk Galaxy.
*The Dolphin, Hocotate is the planet
Yeah we are because it's common knowledge already
"The Hocotate"...
No. Just no.
I never played a Pikmin or a Animal crossing game.
Theory: What if, since many assets are shared, Space Junk Galaxy is actually Starman Fortress, but destroyed and scattered throughout the mission, much like the actual level itself?
Super Mario Galaxy: The Lost Levels
OH PLEASE NO
Do it.
Ah yes
YES PLEASE
The only time I haven’t wanted a galaxy sequel
Regardless if we get Odyssey 2 or Galaxy 3: this needs to be in it as a throwback. Clearly it’s so important to developers with new abilities and graphics for new audiences to gawk and “ouu” at, while us “older” audiences can be touched and have a fun way to remember the awesome series that was Super MarioGalaxy
Great intro I love luigis scream
It seems like this level had the ideas for cappy near the landing pad, kinda cool if that is the case
OMG this would've such a cool galaxy! They should've kept it.
Swanky, your videos make me nostalgic for games I never got to play growing up. Thank you for letting me enjoy these games vicariously through your content.
😭😭😭😭😭 I loved starman's fortress
I’d love to see this turned into an actual level, I sure hope you and captain byte work on this more!
I hope we get to see this level in its entirety sometime later on, or something very similar
I would've absolutely loved this level! It's so cool looking and the size would make tiny me EXTREMELY excited. I'm sad they took it out...but it as probably for a reason, so sacrifices like this are okay.
Man I wish that level was added in the game ❤️
I love the lost levels on games, and castle-like ones the most! Thank you for letting fans like me know about this level 😊
If the game is actually getting remastered, I really hope this level is added.
These videos have convinced me to redownload SMG1 and 2 and I cannot thank you enough. Being able to relax in these worlds I played as a wee lad have helped me out immensely in these stressful days.
I've always wanted to see what this place would look like. Thanks Swanky and Byte! :)
My pleasure! If you have any questions regarding Starman Fort, I'm more than happy to answer what I can
I have a theory. This was the first level they were working on right? What if Galaxy was originally going to have a similar structure to Sunshine and 64 and have 6 actual missions versus 3 and some extras per stage? But later on they decided to structure it to how it is now. The problem now lies the level is too massive. So instead of trying to make it fit with the more smaller levels, they scrapped it in favor of Bouy Base Galaxy. The structure looks like it'd fit more with 64 with it's wide open endedness. Just my thoughts. Feel free to prove me wrong though.
I absolutely love content like this, one of my favorite things is learning about scrapped content in games. What were the original plans? why was the content scrapped? where would it have lead?....so many questions
I just stumbled upon your account. I played Mario Galaxy when it was first released and I've been binge watching your videos for nostalgia's sake! Thank you so much for doing this!
I hope the devs will see this and maybe even finish the level as a hobby project
I just noticed it looks similarly to the first level in the special world 1 of Super Mario 3D Land
Oh yeah, you're right!
I remember hearing somewhere that originally the intention with the Mario Galaxy series was to make the stages open and non-linear as was the case in Mario 64 and Sunshine. However, at some point the idea shifted towards the mostly linear levels we see in the games.
This paradigm shift could explain why this level was not finished: its huge size and many different floors/areas suggest it was designed for that philosophy of open, non-linear levels with stars all over the place. Once that idea was abandoned, the level was just too large and open to make a linear level out of it.
The main thing I wish they had done differently with the galaxy games is exactly that: open non-linear levels would have been so cool with the planetary theme. Imagine having a small solar system to explore looking for stars.
The level of effort in your videos. Legit love for the games
I have that strategy guide, what a coincidence. When I was younger and got bored, I would read through that strategy guide just for fun, I know it’s weird, judge all you like. I remember seeing that tower and thinking it was so mysterious. So glad to see somebody acknowledge it.
Perhaps you could recreate it with assets and stuff and make some custom assets perhaps it could be added and played ingame with the mining place and perhaps a recolored and slightly different version of the boss to replicate the crab beta boss
Lost but not forgotten...
Your amazing youtuber telling us stories about videogame secret. This made me get back to super mario galaxy... when it get remade on switch... :P but still... your great!!!
I think it would be cool if Nintendo made another galaxy game and included this as one of the lvls
Swanky, do you think some day modders will be able to restore star man fortress to it's former glory? I mean I think there is a chance for that to happen, as the games get older, modders become more skilled, maybe one day you, I and everyone else will get to experience starman fortress in all its Glory.
Don't you think so?
It is definitely possible. Modders have found ways before to make things that even the developers thought impossible and make it possible
@@alexpiatt1282 I mean look at sm64, we got fricking Odyssey, sunshine, 3d land and many others with new mechanics and power ups.
Starman fortress is far from being completely lost to time, someday modders will revive this massive stage and bring it to the glory it deserves, the glory the devs wanted it to be, the legacy of Super Mario Galaxy as a whole, the stage that started it all.
I am a modder of SMG and i can say that is totally possible to restor the model with the other assets. (Exept for megaleg).
The model object is totally 100% possible to change, but the assets (like trees) no.
The console would run out of memory and freezes the game
@@gabbo6559 I see! Do you guys have a discord server? Oh and btw, could a emulator run the entire fortress with detail?
@@gabbo6559 I would love to have contact about it because mario galaxy is by far my favorite game
Thank you for the inspiration for my next Minecraft base, I’m definitely building this thing
This level, especially the heli-pad, looks like it would be awesome in super mario odyssey, the radio antennae could be a wire mario can capture
The aesthetic of a huge fort that’s been worn down and rebuilt so many times over reminds me a lot of the setting in Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken, and I love it!! Shame we didn’t all get to play through it ourselves in the game
Someone taking this level and finishing it would honestly be sick.
Like, sticking Mega Leg on the bottom, programming the gravity, putting in all the models and interactable stuff, that would be really neat.
aaah finally more Swanky content, been waiting for this :D
Maybe in those rumored remasters for the 3D Mario's floating around, we could see this level finally finished!
I'd love for it to be actually playable, because it seems like a super fun level.
pain
Buoy base is actually my favorite galaxy and I love that there’s a green star at the bottom, also the spaceship for space junk galaxy is a reference to the pikmin 2 spaceship
My theory for this level is that it once served as Bowser’s Airship Building World. Where it built his warships he needed for his galactic armada. Kinda like Kuat Drive Yards from Star Wars. However, at some point the ship yards were decommissioned by Bowser and his troops as it became too old and rusty. Often damaging itself due to its machinery being old and not as stable as it once was. Which led to it decaying with time, slowly corroding and withering itself away to the elements. Bowser’s abandonment of the ship construction yard also could be what led to it becoming what it is now. An old galaxy that is only used by Bowser for mining it’s resources for his empire. Which could probably explain the conversion part of what Swanky stated. Where it was turned into a mining facility operated by Boss Crab and other minions. Where the old cranes that were once used for Air Ship construction were converted into pulleys for bringing up materials mined by Boss Crab and the minions. But that’s just my opinion on the possible history of the forgotten level. If anyone has anything to say about this, please do share your thoughts on this! I’d love to read them! ^^ P.s the landing pad I think was probably for completed ships to be placed on or for returning ships to land. Hope this makes sense!
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As Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game, seeing this makes me pretty happy, and intrigued, as I'd never heard of this. Thanks, this was pretty neat.
Recently started playing this through dolphin, such memories man.
I remember the first time i played buoy base level. I didn't even see the big black glass bowl, I just destroyed the other one with the pipe instead. When i was about to end the level, i asked my self "is that star green?" When I figured out it was actually green I was so happy
Never beaten mario 64, sunshine, or any galaxy's and every time I see game play of them it's like there is something new I've never seen before
this is the early development of Mario Odyssey and the electric Mario that can travel through wires.
always fun to learn about levels that could have been
to be honnest that's a bit exciting to imagine this stage in the game and the story that could be put with it
that pipe at the top leading to the otherside side looks so cool
I knew about this lost level from some deleted video from 4 years ago. that video also said something about a lost lava galaxy in smg2. To what i understand melty monster galaxy was a replacement for it
When I was young, I always liked the idea of hidden worlds in the games I played, I'm so glad there are videos like this.
0:15 well yeah? Because that’s what happens in the game? 😂
I get a sense of future SMO material from this level and its sketch.
It would be cool to make a mod of this game that adds this Galaxy in as a fully-fledged level, that would be epic
Maybe I’ll try to get into Mario Galaxy modding but this seems difficult to build, would be awesome tho
Love these kinda videos. Keep em up!
It is really cool that something so massive and fun could’ve been in the game. Space junk galaxy could’ve been a collection of stars for Starman fort, and the fort could’ve had a mega leg returns portion (based on the diagram). I would’ve loved to explore it’s many secrets, and I hope it is a bonus level in the remastering of Mario galaxy for Mario’s 35th anniversary (if the rumors are true).
wow this was great. do you think you could include it as a mod one day?
Dunno how long ive been waiting for THIS.
Thanks for recreating this
I would love to see someone make a level based on this and the concept art. Based on its size (and variety) I imagine it being a hub world, and it may have even eventually evolved into Rosalina's starship.