Wow I have been saying this, since they started making separate driver faces, makes sense we don't swing like the pros. And explains why the bigger hitting tour players get that extra yardage....they r caving the face in even farther......great content keep it up
Great video! I actually didn’t see this video until AFTER I ordered my KRANK F11X! Just ordered it this morning after speaking with Lance Reader (owner of KRANK GOLF) personally on the phone. Custom ordered it with the Fujikura Atmos Black shaft. My club head speed is in the 95mph range, so I’m expecting to see a significant increase in ball speed as well. Can’t wait to try it out! 👍
I recently bought a Krank 5 wood head and put in my favorite shaft. This 5 wood hits further, higher and much more consistently than my Tour Edge EXS Pro 3 wood. I am considering the driver head you are testing in this video as my swing speed is just under 90 mph. The information you have provided is one of the few reviews of Krank drivers. Thank you for making this video.
I'm glad you made this video. Most everybody is looking for more distance, and that's what the OEMs are peddling every year, but only in tiny increments. I think this is a great idea. it's not like its going to put the ball automatically in the fairway 20 yds further every time. It's still up to the golfer to keep it in play. i've been thinking about getting one of these since I first found out about them.
I have the F7 and it's always been, my favorite driver. I always hit bombs with it. I am ready to step up to the F11X. I'm older now and need to keep up with my buddies !!!
Great video AT! I’m all for “non-conforming” equipment. If the governing bodies really want to grow the game I think non conforming equipment is a way to make entry into the game more appealing and I also believe it will make it more enjoyable for current players which would increase rounds played. It makes sense for the big manufacturers to jump on board as well. Over 90% of rounds played are recreational so why do you make a product that really only is for less than 10% of your customer base?
Yes rather than spend a lifetime learning shoulder turns, weight transfer, swing planes ect ect ect just get an illegal club that goes further..If you can't hit a 460cc modern driver then you are doing something inherently wrong and need to fix it or stick to fairway woods off the tee.
@@TheKingeboue27 That’s not the point I was making. Golf is dying, courses are closing all over here in South Florida to put up condos and residential housing. The governing bodies need to make entry into the game easier and increase the amount of golf being played by those who are already playing by increasing their enjoyment and success. Just because the clubs is not conforming doesn’t mean it will swing itself. There is still skill involved. It’s stuffed shirts and prudes like you at the USGA that are going to kill this game. Are you a tour player? Then by all means use the equipment meant for SANCTIONED USGA/R&A EVENTS. Let the rest of the world have fun.
@@legend9018 You may not think so, but golf is a special sport. Sam Snead did it with pinheads made of wood, the game started with hickory shafts. The tec has already gone too far with clubs that shape the ball for you- learn to hit a fade and draw- it's the point of the game. Golf is diminishing more because it's getting bastardised into being like any other low rent sport. 300 yard drive means nothing nowadays. Harder the game the more satisfaction you get in the long run. Maybe some people should stick to their 'mashed potato' shouts and leave the clubs alone if they're unwilling to put in the work.
Hey Robert, I’m a rep with Krank Golf, where do you live? I’d love to find you a demo day close to where you live, so you can try the XX. Thanks Austin
I have one, love it. When I get invited to play in the Masters, I won’t use it 😎 seriously, I really like it. I play golf for fun. More distance equals more fun for me.
@@TheKingeboue27 With all due respect, do you obey all the rules of golf? I have played a lot of games in lots of places and 99.9% of all golfers do not.
@@PatBuckleyracecar No point playing if you don't follow the rules. Furthest I go- letting myself off a left handed air shot using right handed club-Miles from using a hot club to add significant yardage
Thanks for putting our driver to the test. If you’re interested in know more about what we are doing and why we’re going in this High COR direction, check out this Krank Golf Formula 11 Drivers launch video. ruclips.net/video/j74c6xpEoX4/видео.html
Very interesting video - please consider reviewing the other 2 drivers models at different swing speeds to determine if the results would be consistent across the board - my swing speed is under 85 mph and obviously I could use some additional distance
Hello Henry, I am a rep with Krank Golf, I’d love to find you a demo day close to where you live so you can hit these drivers yourself. Let me know if your still interested! Thanks, Austin
62, playing for 4 years, bad everything from back down. 74 mph swing speed. Dont play tournaments. Borrowed my 85 year old dads...we now " share " his krank on the course. Yes, put it in your bag!
I bought an F11 X driver and went to a club fitter in California to try different shafts to get the most distance. (Krank adapter is same as a Calloway) had the numbers from the stock shaft and the goal was to see if any of the high end shafts would give me more distance and better dispersion. Ended up with an OBAN shaft after trying 6 different shafts. Numbers were better than head with stock shaft. Played first round, all drives were at least 15 yards longer than my previous driver (not the Krank w/ stock shaft) a Wishon 959 Hi Cor and a couple 30 yards. ( maybe it was down wind or the fairways harder, but all I know is I never hit irons to the green from those places in the fairway! ). Also, off center hits I noticed the ball went relatively straighter. I am SOLD.
You are apparently hitting these too low on the face and losing potential distance, according to what Ive heard about this clubbed. I have one and paired it with an evenflow blue reg. for my low 90's swing speed. Too cold here in Canada to give it a serious go. But I did hit a few into a field and definitely lost distance with a low hit. Dispersion was awesome. I would sure like to see you do this again with a longer tee.
I think there are enough tee boxes to allow for shorter tee shots. The real problem is male ego. I carry 225-230 yards. That is 75-80% of a tour pro through the bag. I do not play 7500 yard tees.
I am 69 years young with a swing speed of 86. After trying out this driver I realized a gain in yardage of around 12 yards on my above average hit drives. This driver is 1" longer than my standard length Callaway Epic.
Hi Ali..perhaps you should of only counted the centre hits with both clubs. It looks as though a higher tee height would have been best for this non conforming club..Just a thought..Good video though..
I remember playing non conforming Callaway ERC woods years ago. Made the game fun as I outdrove friends with a 3 wood. I am a lit older now and friends would scoff at me playing a non conforming driver. I also compete so I ordered the Formula 11 pro (conforming). Will see if it outperforms my TM M6. Something about your review tells me it won't but I will be optimistic.
BTW, received my Formula 11 Pro a couple of weeks ago. 20 swings on the driving range on my mobile launch monitor showed no significant difference vs my TM M6 driver BUT.... I swapped the grip out and after 27 holes of testing, I can say the following. 1) my ball fight is more predictable and 2) I have driven the ball further on many holes on my course. I have added one or two more 300 plus yard drives to my round. I will continue to test over several rounds but so far, pleasantly surprised.
I’m interested to try the conforming version out also. I sold my M6 driver because I just couldn’t control it. I’m using my old TM R1 driver and hit it out to 300 every now and again. I’m usually driving between 275~280 yards, so hopefully I can see good results with the krank driver.
I will definitely consider non conforming on the driver and the ball. I'm 62 and just hanging on to the tees my buddies play. Word is coming from some tour pros who have tested prototype "conforming" balls that the distance loss is more like 50 yds real world. I tried to play by the rules but the line has been crossed
To me the question to ask the R&A now is should the conformity rules be reviewed because from what you've said here the longer hitters have an advantage over those of us with a slower swing speed because they are able to get a smash factor of 1.5 where as the rest of us are not so sacrifice distance to those long hitters as a result. So isn't it time to level the playing field up a bit and allow these new heads for amateur competition with some rules surrounding who could use each one so the shorter hitters can compete more fairly with the big boys.
Just got my new Cobra SZ & the confidence it has given me when swinging has moved my club head speed from 85 to 90mph & 20 + yd carry, I would feel like I was cheating my mates at the clubs roll up midweek stablefords (so not an official comp) if I moved to this for another 10-20 yds
I’ve just taken stock of a Krank 6.5 omg it’s ballistic to say the least sweet spot like Texas I’m 61 and seen 295 300 in the swing room with a 150 ball speed, I need a another one as there was a hair line crack on the crown about 10 mm back from the face 😢
If someone with a fast swing speed, lets say 115mph, used their high cor driver with the thinnest face, what would be the result? Would it go extra far and be over 1.5 smash factor, the same distance as a normal driver, less far because it over compresses the face of the driver, or break the driver?
@@AliTaylorGolf I thought that might be the case! I wonder what the state of driver technology and R&D would be if the USGA lifted its 0.83 COR limit. I'm sure a lot of money would be put into finding ways of increasing COR but not sacrificing durability.
@@william_hartman Top LDers get about 500 hits from a driver before the COR starts going south. I broke about 10 SMT faces when I was practicing a lot for Long Driving, and just recently broke my Krank. I'm guess that a 1.5mm thick driver face is probably going to break at about 100-200 hits from a top LD guy, and I doubt he will benefit from that higher spring effect.
Did no one else notice the longer shaft in the Krank?? I'm surprised his ball speeds weren't higher than that! And those swings with the crank seemed much more controlled compared to the first set...probably to lower his smash factor before raising it. Still bet it's a good driver for the guys that obsess over a few more yards rather than a few more fairways👍👍
My SS was about 102 mph Before my shoulder surgery last December 2019. I could definitely use this driver. I’m at a standstill right now because I can’t swing a club hundred percent because I’m still going for physical therapy for my shoulder. It’s going to be about two more months before I can fully swing 100%. I’ve been tossing and turning with the idea of getting the cobra SZ extreme or using my ping G410+ driver which I still haven’t hit because I bought it a month before my surgery. I was planning on going for a custom fit late summer early fall to figure out my bag situation. I had a Krank driver about 3 years ago. I never got on with it just didn’t feel right i wound up selling it on eBay. Curious to see how much this would cost and whether or not it’s worth getting. I don’t play competitively although my handicap now is 2.4 and I average about 255 -265 off the tee.
Ali: I’ve been playing only a couple years. Still learning to control my driver, but swing fine with my irons and hybrids after many lessons. Do you recommend this? Speed around 95. How would I know which shaft to get?
Thx for the vlog, Ali. I don't play comps or money games, so I'd have no problem playing non-conforming, but do I really want a crooked drive to go 10-15 yards longer? My course often has punishing rough, so longer drives don't necessarily lead to lower scores.
The sound of the strike is interesting.Does anyone know if my Adam's boxer hybrids are conforming ? I have often thought they are not,they are at least 15 yards farther than anything else I have ever played.I have a feeling the face testing was not done in 03 when I bought my boxers,Langer and Watson were using them at that time
I haven't had a driver in the bag for years because I could never hit it properly compared to a 3 or 5 wood. However I finally got a new one last year. It is a SIM regular shaft 12 degrees. I swing at about 98 mph. I was shocked at how much the soft shaft and loft helped. Would love to know why.
@@AliTaylorGolf it goes a mile, I mean 260ish carry. Dispersion is also very good. Doesn't seem to come off the face hot, it's just a high flight that stays in the air forever.
I'm using krank fire x for a month now...I gain the additional distance of almost 20-30 meters, and a pretty straight line....good for me, I don't know how it will be for anybody else...
Curious as to how tall the face is compared to your Cobra. Your strikes were very centered but just a bit low with the Krank driver so would teeing the ball just a bit higher resolve that issue and get you the spin optimization you're looking for? Personally, I'm torn on using this driver since I sometimes play for money with my friends so I'd feel guilty if I won. It's not a lot ($1 skins, $.50 a stroke) but it's the fairness factor. It would be fun if we all had the same driver then that variable is neutralized. It would be hard to have both drivers to use on different days and be consistent, in my opinion, but I think some professionals keep different drivers for different courses so that might have to be the mindset if a person had both. Would I get one? I might if I'm just playing for fun with my wife or others and no dollars on the line. What I do need is a club for par 3's that will put me inside a 15 foot circle from 150+ for KP's. Those pay $5 so it'd be $60 at the end of the day! You know of any? 😉 💷⛳ Enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing this one.
It would be really difficult for Cobra to do that because they are a cast driver with an insert face. Krank is super hardened cupped face forged beta titanium. Our metal is much harder which allows us to go super thin with out breakage. Totally different manufacturing style.
What's "non conforming"? I understand the face is only allowed so much bounce, but does this driver go beyond the rules, or just under the rules limit?
Here’s the answer. The F11PRO is on the USGA Driver conforming list. It is the fastest and longest hitting conforming driver on the planet. Like all conforming drivers, they perform at their highest spring effect at the higher swing speeds. (Read the Graph for the details). If you’re playing in a golf event that requires you to only use a driver on the USGA Driver conforming list, you have to use the F11PRO regardless of your swing speed. Now here’s the sad truth. If you swing less than 105 mph, you don’t get the same spring effect that the faster swing speeds get. The slower you swing the worse it gets. We at Krank don’t think that’s fair. The F11X and the F11XX are the same driver as the F11PRO, just have thinner faces to give back to the slower swing speed golfers the distance they deserve. They are meant for recreational golf which is 99% of all golf. Hit which one works best for you. Hopefully, I answered your question.
The KRANK F11 X that you're using in this video is FULLY CONFORMING! You need to test the KRANK F11 XX or Double X' non-conforming driver if you want to talk about using non-conforming drivers. The F11 X is for swing speeds at 105mph and above. The NON CONFORMING version, F11 XX is for swing speeds between 85mph to 105mph. This is on (or was) on the KRANK website. Since you're not using the fully conforming version in this video, you're not getting the extra yardage you're looking for until you try the F11 XX, or 'Double X'.
Sir my name is George OK I am trying to figure out what the hosel so witch lofts and lie angel and if there is any other things that the hosel changes what the heck the hosel dose
I know this is a old video but I’ve been doing research on different drivers since I’ve got back into golf in the last 3 yrs. I took a lengthy time of probably 15 yrs until I decided to start playing golf again. I’ll be the first to say yeah I would put a non-conforming driver in my bag. Actually since starting back playing golf I’ve bought a anti-slicing driver. Did it help, yes it did. But after probably 5-6 rds of golf the head broke off the shaft. I even bought one of the Maxvert1 drivers that one of the RUclipsrs said would out drive my current driver and add 20 yards. The driver never lived up to the hype. So I got a refund. But the Krank driver is more believable because the owner I think really is more interested in getting people back into golf to enjoy it more by producing a driver that would add yardage like when the were hitting off the tee back in the beginning of their golf playing. I haven’t bought a Krank driver yet, but in the next month I will. It will probably be the Krank Fire ll xxx driver. My club head speed is around 85. I’m using a Taylormade SLDR driver right now, I do have my slice under control but the distance is still not there where I want it. Plus you have so many days to use this driver before making a decision to keep it or get a refund.
Sir to be honest with you sir I do have a slow swing speed sir I have not played golf for awhile sir so I do not know what my swing speed really is now sir
It's an interesting moral question. The rationalization for using a non-conforming Krank appears to be that it's cheating only if you use it in a USGA-sanctioned event. I'm not sure that's true. It sounds like equivocation, the kind of sophistry politicians use (if my conduct isn't criminal, it must be perfectly okay). If you can convince yourself to use a piece of non-conforming equipment, you know, just for fun, when you're playing with your buddies, then why not use an illegal golf ball? That would add distance to all your clubs! Not a USGA event, so no one can complain, right? But you know better, or should. Rules, including handicaps, exist to level the playing field for everyone. The easiest way to gain some distance off the tee: tee it forward, with a clear conscience.
If you just want to play non-handicap rounds maybe. But even in amateur handicap play and tournaments you can not use non-conforming equipment and I would point that out in a round.
Wouldn't ever play a non-conforming club/ball. Two reasons. 1 is I like to play tournaments. The other is it means I am cheating, which is a problem for me
Like the idea but i wouldnt play a non conforming club. If i won (even friendly golf against my mates) i wouldnt feel the same satisfaction. Even if i played on my own i would not get the same pleasure from platjng well. But that's just me and i have no problem with people playing this club if it works for them and they arent in an official comp.
My name is George sir ido have a slow swing speed sir about 85 to 87 swing speed sir I don't know what it is now sir because I have not played golf in a long time sir
I certainly wouldn't play a non conforming driver. My swing speed is around 115 i just need an optimised driver as my current one isn't theres only twenty yards between hybrid and driver
@@AliTaylorGolf oh i can see the benifit. When money allows i need to configure the top of of my bag to optimise it. As arccos tells me it's my weakest part of my game because im only hitting hybrid or 4iron off the tee
@@danielwinterbottom5531 Do you ever hit 3 wood off the tee? Why are you limiting yourself to hybrid/4 iron? With your swing speed, you can REALLY get the ball out there! Quick story. I was on the range with a new REGULAR FLEX shaft in my used PING G25 DRIVER. The guy next to me was hitting the new Mavrick bu CALLAWAY. EVERY TIME HE HIT THE BALL, IT SOUNDED LIKE A 20 GUAGE SHOTGUN GOING OFF! SO, I strike [ no pun intended ] up a conversation with this guy. VERY COOL GUY. His SS w DRIVER is 127 mph! I cant see where the ball is landing... BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOING OVER THE NET, OUT ABOUT 300 YARDS! NEVER SAW ANYTHING LIKE IT! Anyway, I mention I just turned 60 and have NO IDEA WHAT MY DRIVER SS IS. HE BRINGS OVER HIS MEVO AND SMARTPHONE, SETS IT UP AND SAYS USE IT FOR 10 OR 20 MINS! LIKE I SAID, GREAT GUY! Well I started off at 84 mph and I specifically wanted to keep dispersion decent, so I slowly start taking the club closer to parrall to ground from 3/4 swing. Slowly I see the SS NUMBERS GET TO 88 AND FINALLY TO 92-94 MPH. I FEEL GOOD, DID NOT HURT MYSELF, FOCUSED ON MORE ROTATION AND HITTING UP ON THE BALL AND DUE TO THIS GUYS GENEROSITY, I NOW HAVE A GOOD BASELINE TO WORK FROM! AS HE PACKS UP, HE MENTIONS HE HAS A GAME THE NEXT DAY W HIS GROUP OF FRIENDS AND WISHES HE HAD A BIT LESS SPIN. SO I TOSS HIM A YELLOW TITLEST AVX AND SAID "GIVE THIS BALL A TRY. YOU WILL HIT IT LOWER AND START TO GET ROLLOUT MUCH QUICKER BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE 6-800 LESS BACKSPIN! GIVE IT A COUPLE HOLES AND IF U DON'T LIKE IT, HELL GRAB A YELLOW PRO V1! YOU CAN MEET SOME OF THE NICEST GUYS, AND SOME OF THE BIGGEST JERK OFFS IN THIS GAME!!! ;)
@@sixstringsdown1 i currently don't have a 3 wood but the top end of the bag is where im going to look at next. My hybrid goes about 240yds so most holes thats good. With the ball i recently switched from the avx to pro v1 for more spin after a similar situation to yourself
Amateur golf is difficult enough without many silly regulations on equipment. Especially in winter. Summer with extra roll must be compliant. But who really cares.
Here’s why no one buying it: if you hit your driver over 115MPH, then the Krank PRO version is perfect, but for us mere mortals (99% of golfers out there), this driver will not work for us. You are then left ONLY with a choice of the other 2 Krank models (the X and the XX), which are NON-CONFORMING, so can’t use them even in local club tournaments and at least in my foursome, no one going to let me win money matches with an illegal driver! So that’s the real reason…not going to work for 99% of golfers out there.
Totally ridiculous, ignorant comments: I had to stop listening after 1:10 minute of it. We know (this has been proven 25 years ago and is still true) that the faster you swing, the LESS you gain from a trampoline effect in %. Just read some science on it .... or shut up.
@@AliTaylorGolf LOL no, I'm happy to "invest" in my game. Just think it's a smarter investment to spend less money. Especially knowing too many golfers sell the equipment because it's"always the equipment's fault". ;-)
Thanks but no thanks...... playing illegal equipment is fine just don't refer to your new game as golf, the term no longer applies to what you are doing.
Why don't you just kick your ball 15 more yards down the fairway rather than buying a new driver. Cheating is cheating. I live in Japan and there are several non-conforming drivers, price is the same, but I have never seen anyone using one.
AliTaylorGolf we can always justify cheating. When I tell my children to be honest and don’t cheat but allow exceptions when it suits me just doesn’t seem right. Golf is a game of integrity.
@@AliTaylorGolf that actually happened with Tiger Woods when he was using a Cobra driver early in his career. Besides illegal drivers were allowed up until 2008 and all the main manufactures made illegal drivers, except Ping. Players used them all the time in Japan and they made no difference. Not to mention irons (square groves) prior to 2014 are now illegal at pro and top amateur levels and will be illegal for everyone else from 2024.
Wow I have been saying this, since they started making separate driver faces, makes sense we don't swing like the pros. And explains why the bigger hitting tour players get that extra yardage....they r caving the face in even farther......great content keep it up
Great video! I actually didn’t see this video until AFTER I ordered my KRANK F11X! Just ordered it this morning after speaking with Lance Reader (owner of KRANK GOLF) personally on the phone. Custom ordered it with the Fujikura Atmos Black shaft. My club head speed is in the 95mph range, so I’m expecting to see a significant increase in ball speed as well. Can’t wait to try it out! 👍
Iam interested to hear how you make out, I have been hitting Krank for yrs in long drive and have told lots of my older friends about these drivers.
How did it go?
I recently bought a Krank 5 wood head and put in my favorite shaft. This 5 wood hits further, higher and much more consistently than my Tour Edge EXS Pro 3 wood. I am considering the driver head you are testing in this video as my swing speed is just under 90 mph. The information you have provided is one of the few reviews of Krank drivers. Thank you for making this video.
Wow! That is an amazing difference in outcome. Krank is on to something with its drivers. I would consider switching for sure.
At long last, a golf company that cares for the ordinary golfer!!
I'm glad you made this video. Most everybody is looking for more distance, and that's what the OEMs are peddling every year, but only in tiny increments. I think this is a great idea. it's not like its going to put the ball automatically in the fairway 20 yds further every time. It's still up to the golfer to keep it in play. i've been thinking about getting one of these since I first found out about them.
I have the F7 and it's always been, my favorite driver. I always hit bombs with it. I am ready to step up to the F11X. I'm older now and need to keep up with my buddies !!!
Great video AT! I’m all for “non-conforming” equipment. If the governing bodies really want to grow the game I think non conforming equipment is a way to make entry into the game more appealing and I also believe it will make it more enjoyable for current players which would increase rounds played.
It makes sense for the big manufacturers to jump on board as well. Over 90% of rounds played are recreational so why do you make a product that really only is for less than 10% of your customer base?
Yes rather than spend a lifetime learning shoulder turns, weight transfer, swing planes ect ect ect just get an illegal club that goes further..If you can't hit a 460cc modern driver then you are doing something inherently wrong and need to fix it or stick to fairway woods off the tee.
@@TheKingeboue27 That’s not the point I was making. Golf is dying, courses are closing all over here in South Florida to put up condos and residential housing. The governing bodies need to make entry into the game easier and increase the amount of golf being played by those who are already playing by increasing their enjoyment and success.
Just because the clubs is not conforming doesn’t mean it will swing itself. There is still skill involved. It’s stuffed shirts and prudes like you at the USGA that are going to kill this game. Are you a tour player? Then by all means use the equipment meant for SANCTIONED USGA/R&A EVENTS. Let the rest of the world have fun.
@@legend9018 You may not think so, but golf is a special sport. Sam Snead did it with pinheads made of wood, the game started with hickory shafts. The tec has already gone too far with clubs that shape the ball for you- learn to hit a fade and draw- it's the point of the game. Golf is diminishing more because it's getting bastardised into being like any other low rent sport. 300 yard drive means nothing nowadays. Harder the game the more satisfaction you get in the long run. Maybe some people should stick to their 'mashed potato' shouts and leave the clubs alone if they're unwilling to put in the work.
As a senior golfer, I'd like to see a test of the double x model. Possible???
Hey Robert,
I’m a rep with Krank Golf, where do you live? I’d love to find you a demo day close to where you live, so you can try the XX.
Thanks
Austin
I have one, love it. When I get invited to play in the Masters, I won’t use it 😎 seriously, I really like it. I play golf for fun. More distance equals more fun for me.
With all due respect, the rules are there for a reason to me if the club's doing the work any satisfaction would be tainted.
@@TheKingeboue27
With all due respect, do you obey all the rules of golf? I have played a lot of games in lots of places and 99.9% of all golfers do not.
@@PatBuckleyracecar No point playing if you don't follow the rules. Furthest I go- letting myself off a left handed air shot using right handed club-Miles from using a hot club to add significant yardage
yes, I agree it would help me but just couldn`t use non conforming. great content Ali
Best video on the x series there is. Kudos
Thanks for putting our driver to the test. If you’re interested in know more about what we are doing and why we’re going in this High COR direction, check out this Krank Golf Formula 11 Drivers launch video. ruclips.net/video/j74c6xpEoX4/видео.html
Very interesting video - please consider reviewing the other 2 drivers models at different swing speeds to determine if the results would be consistent across the board - my swing speed is under 85 mph and obviously I could use some additional distance
I’ve looked at Krank and found this an excellent video. I like competing but would buy one for the hell of it.
Hello Henry,
I am a rep with Krank Golf, I’d love to find you a demo day close to where you live so you can hit these drivers yourself. Let me know if your still interested!
Thanks, Austin
Nice demonstration…. I’m thinking about purchasing that driver from Krank.
62, playing for 4 years, bad everything from back down. 74 mph swing speed. Dont play tournaments. Borrowed my 85 year old dads...we now " share " his krank on the course. Yes, put it in your bag!
I bought an F11 X driver and went to a club fitter in California to try different shafts to get the most distance. (Krank adapter is same as a Calloway) had the numbers from the stock shaft and the goal was to see if any of the high end shafts would give me more distance and better dispersion. Ended up with an OBAN shaft after trying 6 different shafts. Numbers were better than head with stock shaft. Played first round, all drives were at least 15 yards longer than my previous driver (not the Krank w/ stock shaft) a Wishon 959 Hi Cor and a couple 30 yards. ( maybe it was down wind or the fairways harder, but all I know is I never hit irons to the green from those places in the fairway! ). Also, off center hits I noticed the ball went relatively straighter. I am SOLD.
You are apparently hitting these too low on the face and losing potential distance, according to what Ive heard about this clubbed. I have one and paired it with an evenflow blue reg. for my low 90's swing speed. Too cold here in Canada to give it a serious go. But I did hit a few into a field and definitely lost distance with a low hit. Dispersion was awesome. I would sure like to see you do this again with a longer tee.
Excellent 👍 review. Like to see the conforming KRANK also.
Ty
As a 72 year old with a 75-85 SS recreational golfer I would use this club.
And the owner, Lance, is such a great dude on top of it all.
Thanks for the review. Looking forward to trying mine when it arrives. Would love to see a video on their hybrids.
I think there are enough tee boxes to allow for shorter tee shots. The real problem is male ego. I carry 225-230 yards. That is 75-80% of a tour pro through the bag. I do not play 7500 yard tees.
Not only that, ego led me to play harder clubs where I can only pure half of the time. Then I need to save me self from trees and bunker
I would like to see this test with a slower swing speed maybe 95-100... thanks
I am 69 years young with a swing speed of 86. After trying out this driver I realized a gain in yardage of around 12 yards on my above average hit drives. This driver is 1" longer than my standard length Callaway Epic.
Hi Ali..perhaps you should of only counted the centre hits with both clubs. It looks as though a higher tee height would have been best for this non conforming club..Just a thought..Good video though..
I remember playing non conforming Callaway ERC woods years ago. Made the game fun as I outdrove friends with a 3 wood. I am a lit older now and friends would scoff at me playing a non conforming driver. I also compete so I ordered the Formula 11 pro (conforming). Will see if it outperforms my TM M6. Something about your review tells me it won't but I will be optimistic.
BTW, received my Formula 11 Pro a couple of weeks ago. 20 swings on the driving range on my mobile launch monitor showed no significant difference vs my TM M6 driver BUT.... I swapped the grip out and after 27 holes of testing, I can say the following. 1) my ball fight is more predictable and 2) I have driven the ball further on many holes on my course. I have added one or two more 300 plus yard drives to my round. I will continue to test over several rounds but so far, pleasantly surprised.
I’m interested to try the conforming version out also. I sold my M6 driver because I just couldn’t control it. I’m using my old TM R1 driver and hit it out to 300 every now and again. I’m usually driving between 275~280 yards, so hopefully I can see good results with the krank driver.
I will definitely consider non conforming on the driver and the ball. I'm 62 and just hanging on to the tees my buddies play. Word is coming from some tour pros who have tested prototype "conforming" balls that the distance loss is more like 50 yds real world. I tried to play by the rules but the line has been crossed
To me the question to ask the R&A now is should the conformity rules be reviewed because from what you've said here the longer hitters have an advantage over those of us with a slower swing speed because they are able to get a smash factor of 1.5 where as the rest of us are not so sacrifice distance to those long hitters as a result. So isn't it time to level the playing field up a bit and allow these new heads for amateur competition with some rules surrounding who could use each one so the shorter hitters can compete more fairly with the big boys.
Just got my new Cobra SZ & the confidence it has given me when swinging has moved my club head speed from 85 to 90mph & 20 + yd carry, I would feel like I was cheating my mates at the clubs roll up midweek stablefords (so not an official comp) if I moved to this for another 10-20 yds
Sounds like it would work for my game. Senior golfer with lower swing speed that plays most rounds as a single.
I’m a senior golfer and use a Krank driver and I do get more distance ......
its all well and good more distance but if you cant hit the fairway whats the point in more distance??
Right? It is a lot easier to hit it relatively straight when you hit pitching wedges off the tee ;)
I definitely would use it, just play with friends most of the time.
I’ve just taken stock of a Krank 6.5 omg it’s ballistic to say the least sweet spot like Texas I’m 61 and seen 295 300 in the swing room with a 150 ball speed, I need a another one as there was a hair line crack on the crown about 10 mm back from the face 😢
I like that you can adjust loft, lie and face angle separately.
If someone with a fast swing speed, lets say 115mph, used their high cor driver with the thinnest face, what would be the result? Would it go extra far and be over 1.5 smash factor, the same distance as a normal driver, less far because it over compresses the face of the driver, or break the driver?
You might see smash slightly over but generally the face would deform too much and be less efficient
@@AliTaylorGolf I thought that might be the case! I wonder what the state of driver technology and R&D would be if the USGA lifted its 0.83 COR limit. I'm sure a lot of money would be put into finding ways of increasing COR but not sacrificing durability.
@@william_hartman Top LDers get about 500 hits from a driver before the COR starts going south. I broke about 10 SMT faces when I was practicing a lot for Long Driving, and just recently broke my Krank. I'm guess that a 1.5mm thick driver face is probably going to break at about 100-200 hits from a top LD guy, and I doubt he will benefit from that higher spring effect.
Did no one else notice the longer shaft in the Krank?? I'm surprised his ball speeds weren't higher than that! And those swings with the crank seemed much more controlled compared to the first set...probably to lower his smash factor before raising it. Still bet it's a good driver for the guys that obsess over a few more yards rather than a few more fairways👍👍
His shaft length was 45.5 inches. That is normal length for us. Not sure what his driver shaft length was
hi ali have you got a follow up on this , i would consider this for playing as i no longer play a lot of competitions
Do you have a video on the new Formula FIRE X HIGH-COR Driver?
I have a Krank Fire xx driver, I gained 25 yards. on one high toe it I hit it 232 my normal drive with my old driver with a good hit was 205
My SS was about 102 mph Before my shoulder surgery last December 2019. I could definitely use this driver. I’m at a standstill right now because I can’t swing a club hundred percent because I’m still going for physical therapy for my shoulder. It’s going to be about two more months before I can fully swing 100%.
I’ve been tossing and turning with the idea of getting the cobra SZ extreme or using my ping G410+ driver which I still haven’t hit because I bought it a month before my surgery. I was planning on going for a custom fit late summer early fall to figure out my bag situation.
I had a Krank driver about 3 years ago. I never got on with it just didn’t feel right i wound up selling it on eBay. Curious to see how much this would cost and whether or not it’s worth getting. I don’t play competitively although my handicap now is 2.4 and I average about 255 -265 off the tee.
Wish I could try one. Very tempted for their current aggressive prices.
Where do you live? There are facilities that custom fit for them.
Ali: I’ve been playing only a couple years. Still learning to control my driver, but swing fine with my irons and hybrids after many lessons. Do you recommend this? Speed around 95. How would I know which shaft to get?
You can go through the online fitting, remember its non conforming though so you cannot play competition golf with it.
I absolutely would. I’m playing the game for enjoyment, not USGA or other governing bodies tournaments. Be happy and enjoy the game!
Thx for the vlog, Ali. I don't play comps or money games, so I'd have no problem playing non-conforming, but do I really want a crooked drive to go 10-15 yards longer? My course often has punishing rough, so longer drives don't necessarily lead to lower scores.
But if you hit it straight wouldn't you want the extra distance? Work on hitting it straighter and let the club tech work its magic ;)
The sound of the strike is interesting.Does anyone know if my Adam's boxer hybrids are conforming ? I have often thought they are not,they are at least 15 yards farther than anything else I have ever played.I have a feeling the face testing was not done in 03 when I bought my boxers,Langer and Watson were using them at that time
I haven't had a driver in the bag for years because I could never hit it properly compared to a 3 or 5 wood. However I finally got a new one last year. It is a SIM regular shaft 12 degrees. I swing at about 98 mph. I was shocked at how much the soft shaft and loft helped. Would love to know why.
Maybe a bit more backspin
@@AliTaylorGolf it goes a mile, I mean 260ish carry. Dispersion is also very good. Doesn't seem to come off the face hot, it's just a high flight that stays in the air forever.
I learned a little from looked like your relaxed swing, I may be a little stiff while setting up for the driver! Great video!🐊🏌️♂️⛳🇺🇸👍
Anything that improves your enjoyment of the game should be considered by we amateurs
I know this is two years old but Krank Drivers have been approved by the USGA. So they are no longer non-conforming drivers
I would for sure . My ss 90 mph, do you think I would crack the 85 mph face?
Yes
Yes
What if you swing 110-115? Would it be better to use the conforming or non conforming ?
Conforming
I would love to see more non conforming clubs available to the average golfers who never play for anything but fun .
They have been available for over 25 years....
Would 100% play a non conforming driver. I can only imagine the cost of this beast though.
Prices are great. They are DTC.
I'm using krank fire x for a month now...I gain the additional distance of almost 20-30 meters, and a pretty straight line....good for me, I don't know how it will be for anybody else...
When you say not conforming for competition, which competitions? PGA events, the monthly medal or society comps?
Anyting governed by R&A or USGA rules
@@AliTaylorGolf that did not really answer my question unless your saying that all club competitions are regulated!
@@richardprosser9305yeah basically anything besides your little social leagues are under USGA rules
Absolutely, a long hit puts a big smile on your face,🤣👍🏻
Yes it does
I have one coming cant wait to try it out. Formula 11 x krank golf was amazing to deal with . Great video will follow up once I get my driver .
Curious as to how tall the face is compared to your Cobra. Your strikes were very centered but just a bit low with the Krank driver so would teeing the ball just a bit higher resolve that issue and get you the spin optimization you're looking for? Personally, I'm torn on using this driver since I sometimes play for money with my friends so I'd feel guilty if I won. It's not a lot ($1 skins, $.50 a stroke) but it's the fairness factor. It would be fun if we all had the same driver then that variable is neutralized. It would be hard to have both drivers to use on different days and be consistent, in my opinion, but I think some professionals keep different drivers for different courses so that might have to be the mindset if a person had both. Would I get one? I might if I'm just playing for fun with my wife or others and no dollars on the line.
What I do need is a club for par 3's that will put me inside a 15 foot circle from 150+ for KP's. Those pay $5 so it'd be $60 at the end of the day! You know of any? 😉 💷⛳
Enjoy your videos. Thanks for doing this one.
Not %100 sure about cobra but the Krank faces are quite deep and best balls are always about 1/4" above center. I have been using them for years.
It seems like Cobra with their milled driver faces, could easily adjust the thickness to produce non conforming drivers.
It would be really difficult for Cobra to do that because they are a cast driver with an insert face. Krank is super hardened cupped face forged beta titanium. Our metal is much harder which allows us to go super thin with out breakage. Totally different manufacturing style.
What's "non conforming"? I understand the face is only allowed so much bounce, but does this driver go beyond the rules, or just under the rules limit?
Non conforming means illegal.
With the thinner face the COR is too high for the USGA ruls
Is this club fully USGA conforming?
Here’s the answer. The F11PRO is on the USGA Driver conforming list. It is the fastest and longest hitting conforming driver on the planet. Like all conforming drivers, they perform at their highest spring effect at the higher swing speeds. (Read the Graph for the details). If you’re playing in a golf event that requires you to only use a driver on the USGA Driver conforming list, you have to use the F11PRO regardless of your swing speed.
Now here’s the sad truth. If you swing less than 105 mph, you don’t get the same spring effect that the faster swing speeds get. The slower you swing the worse it gets. We at Krank don’t think that’s fair. The F11X and the F11XX are the same driver as the F11PRO, just have thinner faces to give back to the slower swing speed golfers the distance they deserve. They are meant for recreational golf which is 99% of all golf. Hit which one works best for you. Hopefully, I answered your question.
For sure
More Meters off the Tee for me mate...Aussie here so talking in Meters.
Ive just picked up a conforming 48" krank formula 11 5° 4x stiff driver, very keen to get into it
Let me know how it goes, the Krank stuff is very good
So I’m an average golfer but my swing speed is over 110. Will this driver still give me distance?
The Krank drivers fit different models to swing speed, at 110mph they say you don’t need high cor to max ball speed
@@AliTaylorGolf So are you telling me there would be no benefit to a Krank for me? Likely less stable than some of the new tech?
@@novascotian9287 Anyone at 110 or above fully utilises the trampoline effect. The Krank drivers are great for everyone to max ball speed
The KRANK F11 X that you're using in this video is FULLY CONFORMING! You need to test the KRANK F11 XX or Double X' non-conforming driver if you want to talk about using non-conforming drivers.
The F11 X is for swing speeds at 105mph and above. The NON CONFORMING version, F11 XX is for swing speeds between 85mph to 105mph. This is on (or was) on the KRANK website.
Since you're not using the fully conforming version in this video, you're not getting the extra yardage you're looking for until you try the F11 XX, or 'Double X'.
Sir my name is George OK I am trying to figure out what the hosel so witch lofts and lie angel and if there is any other things that the hosel changes what the heck the hosel dose
Sir could I use the krank driver sir so witch driver would be better for me sir i am being serious sir my swing speed is about 87 sir
I know this is a old video but I’ve been doing research on different drivers since I’ve got back into golf in the last 3 yrs. I took a lengthy time of probably 15 yrs until I decided to start playing golf again. I’ll be the first to say yeah I would put a non-conforming driver in my bag. Actually since starting back playing golf I’ve bought a anti-slicing driver. Did it help, yes it did. But after probably 5-6 rds of golf the head broke off the shaft. I even bought one of the Maxvert1 drivers that one of the RUclipsrs said would out drive my current driver and add 20 yards. The driver never lived up to the hype. So I got a refund. But the Krank driver is more believable because the owner I think really is more interested in getting people back into golf to enjoy it more by producing a driver that would add yardage like when the were hitting off the tee back in the beginning of their golf playing. I haven’t bought a Krank driver yet, but in the next month I will. It will probably be the Krank Fire ll xxx driver. My club head speed is around 85. I’m using a Taylormade SLDR driver right now, I do have my slice under control but the distance is still not there where I want it. Plus you have so many days to use this driver before making a decision to keep it or get a refund.
Sir to be honest with you sir I do have a slow swing speed sir I have not played golf for awhile sir so I do not know what my swing speed really is now sir
Ya baby. I golf to have fun. I’d put a cannon in my bag for straight & long.
Same guy ripping on non-conforming drivers are the same guy taking a foot wedge from behind the tree lol
It's an interesting moral question. The rationalization for using a non-conforming Krank appears to be that it's cheating only if you use it in a USGA-sanctioned event. I'm not sure that's true. It sounds like equivocation, the kind of sophistry politicians use (if my conduct isn't criminal, it must be perfectly okay). If you can convince yourself to use a piece of non-conforming equipment, you know, just for fun, when you're playing with your buddies, then why not use an illegal golf ball? That would add distance to all your clubs! Not a USGA event, so no one can complain, right? But you know better, or should. Rules, including handicaps, exist to level the playing field for everyone. The easiest way to gain some distance off the tee: tee it forward, with a clear conscience.
I love my xx Krank driver
Would have that in the bag 100%
It's an interesting idea isn't it.
@@AliTaylorGolf yes, i just got a new driver, the tour edge exotics XJ1 and dont normally change drivers often but im thinking about it 😁
put on autoflex also
If you just want to play non-handicap rounds maybe. But even in amateur handicap play and tournaments you can not use non-conforming equipment and I would point that out in a round.
Yes, nothing official
Wouldn't ever play a non-conforming club/ball. Two reasons. 1 is I like to play tournaments. The other is it means I am cheating, which is a problem for me
Like the idea but i wouldnt play a non conforming club. If i won (even friendly golf against my mates) i wouldnt feel the same satisfaction. Even if i played on my own i would not get the same pleasure from platjng well. But that's just me and i have no problem with people playing this club if it works for them and they arent in an official comp.
would have no problem with that in my bag i dont see me playing for money anytime
This club should be called "Prank"! I bought one and they told me I didn't get more yards because of the shaft. SAVE YOUR MONEY!
Why?
My name is George sir ido have a slow swing speed sir about 85 to 87 swing speed sir I don't know what it is now sir because I have not played golf in a long time sir
What about the XX...
I certainly wouldn't play a non conforming driver. My swing speed is around 115 i just need an optimised driver as my current one isn't theres only twenty yards between hybrid and driver
You don't need to but I think a lot of recreational golfers would benefit from it.
@@AliTaylorGolf oh i can see the benifit. When money allows i need to configure the top of of my bag to optimise it. As arccos tells me it's my weakest part of my game because im only hitting hybrid or 4iron off the tee
Yeah Dan u swing fast enough.....don't need one
@@danielwinterbottom5531 Do you ever hit 3 wood off the tee? Why are you limiting yourself to hybrid/4 iron? With your swing speed, you can REALLY get the ball out there! Quick story. I was on the range with a new REGULAR FLEX shaft in my used PING G25 DRIVER. The guy next to me was hitting the new Mavrick bu CALLAWAY. EVERY TIME HE HIT THE BALL, IT SOUNDED LIKE A 20 GUAGE SHOTGUN GOING OFF!
SO, I strike [ no pun intended ] up a conversation with this guy. VERY COOL GUY.
His SS w DRIVER is 127 mph! I cant see where the ball is landing... BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOING OVER THE NET, OUT ABOUT 300 YARDS! NEVER SAW ANYTHING LIKE IT!
Anyway, I mention I just turned 60 and have NO IDEA WHAT MY DRIVER SS IS. HE BRINGS OVER HIS MEVO AND SMARTPHONE, SETS IT UP AND SAYS USE IT FOR 10 OR 20 MINS! LIKE I SAID, GREAT GUY! Well I started off at 84 mph and I specifically wanted to keep dispersion decent, so I slowly start taking the club closer to parrall to ground from 3/4 swing.
Slowly I see the SS NUMBERS GET TO 88 AND FINALLY TO 92-94 MPH. I FEEL GOOD, DID NOT HURT MYSELF, FOCUSED ON MORE ROTATION AND HITTING UP ON THE BALL AND DUE TO THIS GUYS GENEROSITY, I NOW HAVE A GOOD BASELINE TO WORK FROM! AS HE PACKS UP, HE MENTIONS HE HAS A GAME THE NEXT DAY W HIS GROUP OF FRIENDS AND WISHES HE HAD A BIT LESS SPIN. SO I TOSS HIM A YELLOW TITLEST AVX AND SAID "GIVE THIS BALL A TRY. YOU WILL HIT IT LOWER AND START TO GET ROLLOUT MUCH QUICKER BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE 6-800 LESS BACKSPIN! GIVE IT A COUPLE HOLES AND IF U DON'T LIKE IT, HELL GRAB A YELLOW PRO V1!
YOU CAN MEET SOME OF THE NICEST GUYS, AND SOME OF THE BIGGEST JERK OFFS IN THIS GAME!!! ;)
@@sixstringsdown1 i currently don't have a 3 wood but the top end of the bag is where im going to look at next. My hybrid goes about 240yds so most holes thats good. With the ball i recently switched from the avx to pro v1 for more spin after a similar situation to yourself
I would like to have a driver with more distance and less spin
Yes i would carry
Amateur golf is difficult enough without many silly regulations on equipment. Especially in winter. Summer with extra roll must be compliant. But who really cares.
HI ( YES ) _80 MPH
Here’s why no one buying it: if you hit your driver over 115MPH, then the Krank PRO version is perfect, but for us mere mortals (99% of golfers out there), this driver will not work for us. You are then left ONLY with a choice of the other 2 Krank models (the X and the XX), which are NON-CONFORMING, so can’t use them even in local club tournaments and at least in my foursome, no one going to let me win money matches with an illegal driver!
So that’s the real reason…not going to work for 99% of golfers out there.
Just don’t hit an xx if ss isover 80 mph it can crack . I’ve had to swing slower but it does work if u hit 90 mph goodbye head
Totally ridiculous, ignorant comments: I had to stop listening after 1:10 minute of it. We know (this has been proven 25 years ago and is still true) that the faster you swing, the LESS you gain from a trampoline effect in %. Just read some science on it .... or shut up.
I'm a hacker. I would definitely put the cheater heaters in my bag. I have nothing to lose except higher scores.
I would not play a non conforming driver.
$550 USD? I'll settle for me short drives LOL. Maybe someone will take the loss on the Bay because it didn't hit the ball for them. ;-)
Not willing to invest in your game? But happy to buy cheaper even if its not right and waste money 😂
@@AliTaylorGolf LOL no, I'm happy to "invest" in my game. Just think it's a smarter investment to spend less money. Especially knowing too many golfers sell the equipment because it's"always the equipment's fault". ;-)
Check the price on a new Callaway or Titleist.
Just have your driver shaved , I picked up 20 yards
Thanks but no thanks...... playing illegal equipment is fine just don't refer to your new game as golf, the term no longer applies to what you are doing.
Why don't you just kick your ball 15 more yards down the fairway rather than buying a new driver. Cheating is cheating. I live in Japan and there are several non-conforming drivers, price is the same, but I have never seen anyone using one.
Why is it cheating? What if you had purchased a conforming deriver that when testes failed the COR test, would you still consider yourself a cheat?
AliTaylorGolf we can always justify cheating. When I tell my children to be honest and don’t cheat but allow exceptions when it suits me just doesn’t seem right. Golf is a game of integrity.
@@AliTaylorGolf that actually happened with Tiger Woods when he was using a Cobra driver early in his career. Besides illegal drivers were allowed up until 2008 and all the main manufactures made illegal drivers, except Ping. Players used them all the time in Japan and they made no difference. Not to mention irons (square groves) prior to 2014 are now illegal at pro and top amateur levels and will be illegal for everyone else from 2024.
All club golfers should be allowed hot faced drivers without doubt, professionals no.
It’s cheating. Play foreword tees if you are not long.