Rivian Gains Access To The Tesla Supercharger Network! My First Charging Experience
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- Kyle and Alyssa head to Superior, CO to try our Rivian’s new Tesla Supercharger access.
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You just plugged it in and it just worked - that's a SC for you.
Hopefully this will force EA to up their reliability game!
@@evtruth I wouldn't hold my breath 😂 I am curious though if EA will actually get NACS adapters deployed by the end of 2025 like they say they will.
@@dustintravis8791 I would put money on it that they won't.
@@evtruth I agree. We need healthy competition. Having Tesla with a monopoly over DCFC would be a terrible outcome.
As a tesla owner, I say welcome to the network. I support the company because they support the transition to sustainable energy, and so do I.
Battery cars require more mining and Enviornmental destruction than gas cars
That's laughable, how many tons of petroleum need to be fracked out of the US to run your gas car@@DavidC1 ?
The lithium is 98% recyclable so the next car I get will only require 2% more lithium to make. But you are wrong about the mining from the git go. If you 200,000 miles on a car and you get 20 miles a gallon you'll need 10,000 gallons of gas. You'll need 20,000 gallons of oil to make that gas. I didn't look this up but I'm pretty sure that 1,500 pounds of lithium takes less to mine that 20,000 barrals of oil. @@DavidC1
I want to say welcome but when I pull up and there are 4 Rivian/fords charging and they are taking up 8 spots because they didn't park next to each other....... We Shall See...
Honestly there's so many more Tesla's than all the others combined that it probably won't be a big deal. Plus, it's not like Tesla is gonna stop installing more chargers. The New York factory is mass producing superchargers for quick installation, this is a net good for all of us and I'm here for it. @@TyLamb
You are super fast when it comes to reviewing these EV. Great work.
Because this is easy and lazy content to blast out.
@KentBuchla you're new here it shows, don't be ignorant
This is the video I have been waiting for to see how the R1T's first charging experience, Thanks once again Kyle for the EV content we need.
So Tesla shows that the plug&charge handshake and isolation check doesn't need to take a minute and a half, lol
Correct, most of these CCS chargers are just dumb and slow. 15 seconds should be plenty of time to do the checks.
RAN chargers also do immediate handshake.
Thanks!
Much appreciated the short video which had all the info anybody could conceivably wish for
Yes, OoS does better when they script outlines in advance and do some editing. Their videos have become too long and unfocused.
On the “you can’t charge here!” - there are a ton of Tesla owners who don’t even realize that (until this month) non-Tesla’s _couldn’t_ charge at Superchargers.
In Europe all tesla chargers are open to non teslas. But here tesla was also forced to have ccs2 on their cars and chargers. Still feels weird when I pull up in my vw
What do you mean? every Tesla owner knew this, they have all seen the poorly engineered charging ports of Non-Tesla EV's, they are all a joke.
@@Triathlete5551 Most people that own Tesla vehicles aren’t Tesla “enthusiasts.” Most are owned by average people who treat them the same way an average person treats a Toyota Camry or a Ford Edge. It’s a vehicle to drive around in. I would say less than half even realize non-Tesla EVs use a different charge port. (I’ve seen very confused Tesla drivers at CCS stations before, as well as very confused CCS vehicle owners at Supercharger locations. I’ve even seen Tesla owners trying to help non-Tesla owners charge at a Supercharger, confused as to why the cable doesn’t fit. I’ve been at a Rivian station, where a non-Rivian pulled up, plugged in - it didn’t work. And another Rivian owner was trying to help them when I walked up and let them both know that Rivian’s chargers don’t work on non-Rivians (yet) - and the other Rivian owner told them “Oh, there’s another station I use all the time across the street, try that one!” It was a Supercharger. No, the confused person’s Kia wouldn’t charge there, either. I showed them how to use their vehicle navigation to find a compatible station, as well as PlugShare and Chargeway.)
And the CCS _Port_ isn’t the problem. Sure, it’s slightly less good than the NACS port. But EA simply swapping the end of the cable from CCS to NACS won’t magically fix EA’s terrible maintenance problem.
Interesting. As a Tesla owner I've only had to call out a Ford Explorer and an RV towing a vehicle (blocked 8 or so chargers), haha.
If they wanted to preserve passenger side charge port for curb charging then they should have put the charge port in the front passenger side. Then you would be on the correct side for both supercharger and curbside
Another solution is to have two charge ports like Audi and Porsche have. Costly but arguably best.
RJ said it is on the back to make the cables shorter. Note the R2/R3 will have a rear drive only option.
Parking is going to be way easier for Polestar, with the port being at the rear left. Can't wait to try it on mine!
You'll have absolutely no issues picking a spot. It's going to SUCK for everyone that doesn't have their CCS port on the rear driver side / front passenger side
Nice! Wish I saw more Polestars on the road!
As a fellow polestar owner I wonder how this is going to work for payment though. So far both ford and rivian are using plug-n-charge but afaik the PS2 doesn't have plug-n-charge support right now. Hopefully that will come in a software update but if I have to make a tesla account and activate via the tesla app that's gonna suck.
I was going to say mine works with the evgo thing, but dug a bit and that's "autocharge" - which just uses the (spoofable) identifier and doesn't do the cryptographic exchange that plug-n-charge does. @@Scoopta
Rivian didn't have ISO 15118 plug & charge either up until this Tesla deal. I imagine Polestar and Volvo will implement it as well for access.
Cheers Kyle and Alyssa
Kyle - please do a follow up video on the Tesla Charge Your Other EV App -- membership and how to connect it to the Rvian App - when it becomes available. I can't see why there wouldn't be a way for Rivian and Tesla to open their apps for connecting the Tesla membership pricing. Thanks!
Buc ee's in Johnstown opened today and the new Tesla super charger appears to be on-line as it's showing up in the Tesla App now. Looks like you need to try that one as it's probably close to Fort Collins
And it has a Magic Dock too.
I read that only about half of the Tesla chargers are actually installed of the 20 that were planned.
Latest Tesla SC station opened yesterday in Colorado and the station is oriented more in the middle of the lane. Rivian will fit without blocking neighboring lane but tire is mostly in other lane but still on the line. This is the farthest I could move the Rivian and still charge. Can't include pic here. Older stations (like in Kyle's vid) have the station more to the passenger side of the lane (orientation is front bumper facing in) so with these stations blocking two spots is the only option. This will cause user conflicts. I have both Rivian and Tesla and am excited and pissed at the same time.
1. Tesla opened the network (very positive) 2. Rivian will provide an adapter (positive). 3. Lack of planning on implementation will cause user conflicts (very negative)
Have Out of Spec Dave test it. He loves Buc ees
Love the setup on the truck
Good the Tesla super chargers are open to all, hope the manufactures start putting NACS charge ports on their EV's soon in the ideal location to use super chargers properly.
Most (all?) manufacturers have committed to NACS for 2025+ model year.
Couple questions... How do I get my NACS DC adapter? And what's that hard top you got? I'm looking for a hard top for my R1T. I prefer fully enclosed to protect my GPR equipment, but looking at every option atm. Thanks again for another great video!!! 👍👍
Great job, on doing the charging videos.
I charged on a new 350KW Electrify Canada CCS1 4-stall station with my Tesla Model 3 LR using the official Tesla to CCS1 adapter. It worked well, but it wasn't faster than a V2 (150kw) Supercharger because my car is 400A/400V nominal. I did see a higher peak rate (191kw) than V2 Supercharging, but I compared that session to another session on a supercharger where I started around the same (23%) and went to 80%-85%. The average charge speed was nearly the same and infact, it was slower on the 350KW. If I had a 1000V vehicle, the 350 would for sure be faster.
It was interesting and I'm glad I have more options.
My point of posting was that even though I was the only person in the 4-stall CCS1 station, I still felt a little out of place with my Tesla, especially when 3 minutes down the road, there's a V2 Supercharger. I just wanted to try my adapter and the new charger. We don't have alot of chargers in my province.
If the pilot signal disappears I'd expect it would cut the charge current via the charge current control before opening the contactors to avoid contact wear/arcing. Could be that there is a fallback to open contactors a short time later in case of a fault causing problems controlling current.
If the pilot signal (CP) disappears, it (usually) means someone has pulled the plug and is pulling an arc between the plug and charge port, someone ripped the cable from the dispenser and is pulling an arc there, or someone is cutting the cable. All of these are cases where dropping the contacts is the right thing to do.
CS would indicate that the button was pushed; then a "slow" shutdown makes sense. However, CS isn't available on the plug, so it wouldn't even be an option if the chargers needed to honour it.
Love this
Loved the EV charging infrastructure in Denver when we lived there, great charger options everywhere.
I appreciate how you finished up with "no one should be upset with this". Tesla charging is such an advantage for EV's.
Extension Cable: Will the extension be a dog bone style with a NACS female and CCS male conector? This would replace the adapter and separate the two sources of resistance heat.
So envious of your network in Colorado. We're so far behind in Minnesota. It boggles my mind why.
As a MN R1T owner I totally agree. Such a shame. But this will help a lot. Especially for the Brainerd Lakes area. That Olivia Casey's Tesla station will be busy.
@@James-wz5qo We have a blace on the Whitefish Chain....It does indeed help, but I wish the Little Falls or Baxter location were able to. Holiday in Baxter has a 180kwh charger coming soon, that should totally fix any issues I have.
Of course I meant Onamia and not Olivia. :) I even went to the head of EV charging at Circle K to get some insight into when that 4 stall, 180 KW build will be completed in Baxter. He said when the weather gets nice they will get it up and going but no real timeframe I could have him commit to. I assume no earlier than maybe mid summer but they have really started hammering some out here in MN, which is so welcomed. The Baxter Tesla supercharger is only 150KW so I knew that would not be open to us but you are correct the Little Falls one should!! @@RedlineR1S
You should find someone with a Focus electric 2017/2018 with ccs and see if it works with supercharging. I'm sincerely just curious lol
Nice to see this happening in NA. In EU it was bit different as it was the older model s and x needing the CCS adapter to be able to charge at any DC charger including v3 superchargers but opening up the superchargers to other brands was trivial as every v3 in EU is CCS only.
Does this mean Teslas can now use the Rivian Network as well. Seems only fair. They (Rivian chargers)are on the Blueridge Parkway and no Tesla superchargers to be found. Would be nice.......
Hi, Kyle, thanks so much for all your time effort and knowledge on your channel. I just got a 2024 Mercedes-Benz EQ 350+ from what I understand they were supposed to or they already have opened up their charger to Mercedes-Benz. Can you please confirm if I get the adapter? Can I use any Tesla charger or is it only certain ones with the magic dock? Please let me know. Thanks.
nice tesla keeps winning!
Great video. Are those OEM 22s on your truck? If not, what are you using? They look good!
Thanks Kyle for sharing you experience on your Rivian. As a VW ID4 driver every week I see a Tesla charging at EA and think: why they can charge everywhere but there is a lot of walls to every others EVs charge at Tesla Superchargers?
What do you think about it?
Great for everyone 🙂
This is great!
Contractor test. Specifically, use as a remote workspace and power station for power tools, welders, etc.
Interesting to see Rivian get access before GM. If memory serves, it was Ford first, then GM to announce Tesla integration. Will Lucid be next in line? Stay tuned.
Kyle.
Just out of interest...
How does the Tesla price (with and without subscription) compare to "other brand" chargers in the area?
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Are they cheaper even without the subscription?
I charge mostly at home (Model Y). 🤞🏽that charge stations increase enough for us to not see overflow for long trips
like how integrated the rivian software is so you can use the supercharger. opens a whole new world for rivian owners
Looking good. Looking forward to my EV6 being able to charge on Tesla Network
8:39 pilot signal interrupt is not violent. Charger gets signal to stop providing power and it with car disconnects contactors. They are not under load while doing it, because pilot disconnect told car and charger to stop.
Kyle. I have not heard any news on the other manufacturers and the native NACS charge port location. Will they move it to diver rear or passenger fount in the future.
Awesome!!
I hope all the people excited for the Tesla network have loads of fun and stop using the CCS network. I've been so lucky using mostly EA back and forth across the country and if normies just go to Tesla chargers now it'll be nice to avoid them all and have less congestion but we'll see.
A few years ago I made the mistake of going on a roadtrip on Thanksgiving. There was a queue of 50 Teslas at the supercharger. But in the same parking lot there were two 50kW ChargePoint stalls, so I skipped the line and plugged in there with my ChaDeMo adapter. Someone else quickly followed, but luckily I chose the one working stall - the other refused to connect 😂
Love to see this. Do wonder if Tesla underwrote the many customers that have had bad experiences and are now able to purchase next vehicles from other mfgs and not lose the supercharger network access? I for one would highly doubt another Tesla is my next car and am extremely excited to really look at ford and anyone else that will be coming online with the network
The proposed charge port location on the R2 and R3 is even worse. Pretty much a fail. 😞
Since those vehicles are two years out from delivery hopefully they'll make a design tweak.
@@evtruth I hope so. The CEO is defending the crazy position though.
I live between Philly and NYC… only a few Tesla chargers show on Rivian app in these massive metro markets. I hope this expands to include most or all Tesla chargers over the year.
how is this good for tesla owners?
Do Tesla cars support Plug&Charge on EA stations? (Do you expect them to?)
Just a thought if Rivian is building a new vehicle and it's only the matter of moving the port to the opposite side that they've chosen, wouldn't it make more sense to switch sides wouldn't it be less stress on the drivers? I don't understand the reasoning of having the port on the opposite side in a Tesla, is it just to prove that they're different? They already have a very nice vehicle. They have an opportunity to just switch one small thing that could make a big difference for each user. They should really reconsider their placement. I'm pretty sure that other manufacturers will do the same time. Only time will tell.
Do you know if hyundai will be getting access anytime soon?
At least in the East, taking an extra spot won’t really be a problem for now at V3 locations. Most people charge for less than 20 minutes and you don’t have to worry about sharing a stall. If Tesla opened up the V2 chargers as well, I would be much more concerned, as I usually have to wait for these as it is, and taking up double-spaces would cause big issues. Overall, I’m happy to see a better charging experience open up for more people!
V2s will not be opened up because they don't support the protocols. They would have to be upgraded to V3 or V4 first.
Your camerawoman has pretty stable hands. I was expecting a production camera and then saw her holding an iphone without the selfie stick, which usually helps with stability. 👏
Are you still required to pay the Tesla monthly subscription? Or is the Tesla setup inside the Rivian? Thanks
The Rivian must be a beast in the snow and ice with studded Nokians
Latest Tesla SC station opened yesterday in Colorado and the station is oriented more in the middle of the lane. Rivian will fit without blocking neighboring lane but tire is mostly in other lane but still on the line. This is the farthest I could move the Rivian and still charge. Can't include pic here. Older stations (like in Kyle's vid) have the station more to the passenger side of the lane (orientation is front bumper facing in) so with these stations blocking two spots is the only option. This will cause user conflicts. I have both Rivian and Tesla and am excited and pissed at the same time.
1. Tesla opened the network (very positive) 2. Rivian will provide an adapter (positive). 3. Lack of planning on implementation will cause user conflicts (very negative)
I’m so excited!!! I just need an adapter.
Hey Kyle, are you pleased the Rivian has no release button next to its charging port like Ford, MB, and others? When walking away from your Rivian, thieves can’t steal the adapter. The other guys need to implement a software button disable to prevent adapter theft.
Would be interesting to know any charging limitations when using the Tesla chargers and whether they are a dongle limitation, Tesla-provider limitation, or vehicle limitation. I want my next car to be an EV but am trying to wait until NACS is the default port in the manufactured EVs.
The only real limitation is the voltage, they only put out about 500V, so 800V cars can't charge on them unless they have an on-board booster or a series/parallel switch in their battery pack. 400V cars should get maximum output from a Supercharger.
Right now it's only the RUclipsrs who have the adapter!
Good video. Do know if Tesla owner will get access to the Rivian charging network?
probably
True. I’m just used to Tesla superchargers and had assumed incorrectly that all batteries could take a high rate of charge. My road trip in the bolt went from an expected 15 minute wait to 60+ minutes at each stop.
Ouch.
tesla has a permit request for v4 install near me. so im pretty excited for that. v4 will have native magic doc on it and the extended cables. so in distant future nacs will be the only thing but for now its going to be ccs adapters wonder if in future manufactures will come out will a valinatry recall and retrovit/rewire for nacs ports which would be cool i know its a little bit complicated but it would probably be better off
Retrofitting NACS will be too expensive. The adapter is FAR cheaper. So don't expect that to happen, you're stuck with the adapter until you get a NACS car.
At first I didn't like the idea of non Tesla's charging at the superchargers as a Tesla owner. But, this has really opened up the Rivian's since the charging network really isn't there still so I really like the idea of this being open. My next car is a Rivian R3, already preordered. Hoping it really doesn't take 2 more years for it.. Thanks for the video.
There are no R3 preorders yet. I think you mean you preordered an R2.
As a Tesla and Rivian owner, I’m happy with this.
@@jjsjohnson1 yes R2. Mistyped
In terms of the wrong adapter damaging the vehicle, it is theoretically possible. It may not happen, but it's possible that the DC isolation test could expose the onboard charger to voltages that it cannot withstand before either the car or charger detects that anything is wrong. It's hard to say what would happen for sure. I certainly wouldn't try it on my own vehicle. Ideally, the isolation test should gradually ramp up from a low voltage and would cut out the moment any current actually flows. So if that works well enough, nothing should be damaged. But the isolation test might not respond fast enough before any damage is done. The true answer probably depends on what specific car and what specific charger is involved.
I need to get my hands on an adapter still to test, but I'm hoping they put a resistor or something in the DC adapter that either the charger or car detects to verify it's a DC adapter before the isolation test starts. I'm sure the engineers would have thought about that happening by someone who didn't know the difference.
So you have to take 2 Tesla spots to charge?
I'm reviewing the EV9 now....but secret. My second Rivian in on the way. Might cancel my Cybertruck. Rivian is rocking it hard core!!!
Your ability to milk a single paragraph of information into a 21 minute novel is absolutely mind blowing
If the RUclips skit is not long enough there is no payout from RUclips.
is that your "home" starbucks? and what is your go to starbucks order?
Rivian and the others, in deference to Tesla for opening the network, should (going forward) immediately relocate the charge ports appropriate to the Tesla convention, either front passenger or rear driver. Fair is fair.
On charger location: the driver side is always the wrong side. On most parking situations on the street you have to walk on the street to plug it in. Then we fold in the mirrors to avoid them being ran off, but can you imagine how much it will cost to replace it when someone runs it off. In Europe, parallel parking is the norm. And destination chargers are on the streets.
That being said, here in Europe the chance of me ever using tesla chargers is very low since there are many other chargers.
We have a Tesla Model Y and I've been talking to Lightning and R1T owners for a while about how Supercharger network access will be a game changer for non-Tesla EVs. Hopefully it will force EA to up their reliability game! Exciting times!!!
Wasn't GM the second company to switch to NACS? I wonder when GM will be able to use superchargers.
Hopefully never. Bolts are too slow
@@ChicagoBob123 fatherless opinion
GM is completely silent on the Tesla Supercharger thing. It's so weird.
Hopefully soon I have a tesla and my sister has a bolt that we were hoping would gain acess already.
@anthonyc8499 that's because most of their new ultimate cars are down for service...😂
woah, it's expensive in the states. it's 14 cents per kw in BC Canada
9:34 Still only one Electrify America DC charging site down here in prehistoric Colorado Springs, I'm beginning to give up hope of us ever getting a second one.
The Springs, a bastion for Right Wingers so maybe you'll have to wait.
Same in Memphis. There is one Electrify America station that has four stations of which at least one or two are always down for maintenance. This is the only Level-3 charger in the entire metropolitan area of over 1.3 million people.
@@LastMumzyJeez, that's appalling. EA needs to get its act together, and roll out a LOT more sites this year.
Are Tesla parking spaces smaller than normal parking spaces?
Do you think an electric truck or SUV will ever come with solar MPPT input plugs in the bed? Wouldnt that be cool to plug some foldable panels into at a camp site and live indefinitely off grid at a camp site? Do the compact solar generators make that an expense not worth incorporating? My driveway is in the sun. I could let it trickle charge all the time.
I’ve considered this. Currently the only way to charge is via J1772 and the onboard charger. Unfortunately the lowest power J1772 can accept is around 1.2kW, which is beyond what few solar panels could fit over the bed would be capable of delivering consistently. Realistically you would need a large camping battery bank to collect the solar power, then use the Rivian mobile adapter to charge from that battery. The onboard charger is very inefficient at such low power, so realistically this will just offset the phantom drain. Covering a camper trailer with solar panels would be more realistic, but you’re talking ~2 weeks to fully charge the Rivian’s battery.
Look at the Aptera, it's the only EV efficient enough to have some hope of that actually working. You would need a huge solar grid to support a R1T after accounting for sun angle and clouds because it takes so much energy. It would take weeks to fully charge with anything you could pack in its bed. You would need a trailer to haul your solar array, which would take up even more energy.
Kyle, at some point can you do a video on 3rd party adapters? Thanks
That's more Tom's forte over at State of Charge. He has videos on that.
Charge point on front passenger side would work the same as back drivers side
Is Tesla charging a different $/kWh for non-Tesla vehicles?
Rivian got it right with port on passenger side. Funnily enough those of us in RHD markets Tesla also has port on our passenger side!
How were you able to get an adapter from Rivian? They told me they are sending them out next month starting with the earliest owners.
that might have been the Ford one he is borrowing for a month with the Lightning.
It’s from Ford. He mentioned that just prior to plugging in.
Tesla makes all of them and they're all identical. So it shouldn't matter if you use it on a different brand vehicle than who sent it to you.
Yeah baby!
Make a flywheel generator for on the road n go travel.
Kyle, would Tesla’s usage of 15118 P&C for Tesla’s and 3rd party OEM vehicles suggest a future plan of for example Rivian’s adventure network using certificate exchange with Tesla roaming network to enable P&C for the Tesla fleet as if at a supercharger? Seems a likely business move to me, especially when they start switching their networks to NACS.
Very cool stuff and also very exciting! Why are so many Tesla Super Chargers NOT available for Rivian/Ford, etc?
Older superchargers may not be compatible and some might just be kept for exclusivity. There was some conjecture that they're prioritizing opening up to other brands where they're less busy and/or there's no alternative DC fast charging provider
V2s can't talk CCS protocol, and the rest of the V3s are sort of a mystery. Probably Tesla wanting to reserve them for their own customers or other legal stipulations.
I have an interesting thought. F150 & Mach-e ports are way to far back for this to be possible, but rivian MIGHT be able to ( PLEASE TEST)
if a rivian pulls as far over (into the "correct" spot for the cable) and pulls as far forward without hitting the stall, MAYBE a tesla could then park SUPER close to the rivian and ALSO stretch the cable to max and the rivian would only take "one" spot
I would like to know if its at least possible?
p.s. if you own a rivian or ford (or non-native side charging vehicle), and you see another at a supercharger, consider parking next to eachother. 1 rivian would take 2 spots, but 2 rivians would take only 3 spots, and 4 rivians would take 5 spots (if parked adjacent)
I have Tesla and rivian and need to try parking with charger centered on each vehicle and see if cord reaches to both. If so simple striping change could help eliminate conflicts
@@mtnmecca_ej I'd love to hear the outcome!
I don't think so. The Rivian is wider than the cable is long, so I don't think it will reach after turning the corner. The Rivian would be over the line on the right side. I'd worry about door dings being that close.
Just tried latest Tesla supercharger station and the R1S is about 1’ over the line. Could squeeze another car next to me so barely blocking neighboring spot.
@@mtnmecca_ej that's great to hear! Hopefully this info can get out to rivian owners to help minimize double parking at crouded SC.
if Rivian sending adapter sooner than ford do you know if you can use this adapter with lighting ?
Yes, they're all identical.
Does anyone know does the Rivian plug lock on the truck have enough movement to lock the adapter onto the car when it is locked? I know the adapter that is part of the Tesla Universal Wall Connector can’t lock since it is too slim.
Curious if the 500A is just a response to the vehicle request
Most likely. Considering the software integration in the Rivian app and also the Tesla app in communication with the actual charger. It’s probably telling the station exactly how much amperage to deliver. It would know an adapter is being used because the information about the vehicle including what vehicle it is what kind of charge port it has is all there. In the future when adapters are no longer needed it may well be able to request that full 700 A and possibly even bump the charging up into the high 200s low 300 range.
@@Silverado_EV_ChEVy_Avalanche Not on current R1 vehicles - they are physically limited to 500A.
I think Tesla will limit it to 500A so they don't exceed the adapter rating. At least initially. What vehicles besides Teslas can draw more than 500A anyway?
@@TechnicalLee none.
Wait are u not going to expound on costs????
More coming
Well, that was fast!
there's probably a materials issue with the adapter that physically requires no more A than 500 for safety reasons....
Well that’s pretty neat!
This update doesn’t appear to have been released to everyone just yet. Rivian’s told me to expect to hear from them in April.
Is the adapter secured from theft? I didn't follow the locking process well enough to determine.
I think they can be stolen because most CCS1 EVs have a release button next to port.
Depends on the EV, some lock without a key present, some don't.
Rivian doesn’t have a release button next to port so theft seems very difficult. But, Ford & MB have a button that allows theft. These brands and others need a software button to prevent adapter theft.
When will Hyundai have access?
Would having multiple charge ports on each vehicle be that much of a cost/impact? One on the back and one on the front on the same side of the vehicle takes care of the problem - regardless of which side the auto manufacturer picks.
Yeah, it's very pricey to design a pack to have multiple ports and then run HV cabling all the way to the junction box.
Adding a second port for AC-only charging is feasible and that's what Porsche does. Would probably add $500 to the cost.
@@TechnicalLeeTIL. And AC is the use case where curb-side charging (i.e. "charging where the car's parked at night") actually makes sense.
@@TechnicalLee the problem with a second AC-only J3400 port is that nobody will understand it and everyone will think their car is broken. How would the average person understand that despite having identical NACS ports on both sides of the car, only one side works with one kind of charging?
Rivian needed this so good on Tesla for their relaible supercharing network. Now Rivian just needs to fix all their buggy sofetware quicker!
Awesome! I own a Tesla but want a Rivian! The fact that Rivian can now use the Supercharger network makes me want one all the more! Great video Kyle!