Audiovisual demonstration of Ford flathead, Y block, Coyote Mustang, Miami, V8 engine.
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Firing order of Fords first and quite new V8 engines. No idea why they went back to this firing order after so many years.
Firing order for these engines is 1 5 4 8 6 3 7 2.
This firing order and cylinder numbering is also used by Audi V8s. 
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Funny how it really does sound like these engines without actually being cylinders firing
I only watch these to see what weird ignition patterns different engines have
This "pop" as bulb lights is very simmilar to sound of cylinder firing. It can be heard in old one-cylinder slow rpm engines
@@mviz2299 ye no shit
Why don’t electric cars just add these
@@notoriousp.p2912 you say that like everybody knows everything about the device he has built
It weirdly does sound like Coyote and Audi FSI underpinnings. Wonderful demonstration.
Ele é usado no Audi V8 do Arthur do Totalmente Demais.
I started hearing a super charger at 4k
You should see the boxer engine demo, legit sounds like a subaru rumble
At 4,000 rpm you can actually hear an engine firing.
Its beautiful
Hell at 1,000 rpm you can hear it. I always wondered how you even replicate an engine sound.
@@MiketheNerdRanger think ted stevens's "a series of tubes" but instead replace tubes with pops lol
That’s the most rpm a flathead ford ever turned 😂
lmao sooo true
Unless you consider the ones that went beyond the redline
If you close your eyes you can hear the 5.0 mustang ripping down the road
Sounds just like v8s in beamng
LMFAO
I love the sound when the rpm goes down
I got mad heebie-jeebies from the four grand mark onward. Ooh my.
I'm in the process of timing one of these motors and this helps a lot. Thank you.
As the occasional driver of a y-block, it makes me happy to see anything associated with them.
Got a 292 and 312 meself 🤠
@@xmo552 I have the 272, I guess that completes the trio.
@@paularcher3237
My car came with a 272 but it never ran. When I tore into it to rebuild it..... I found a window in the block and yeah 😩. I popped in a 292 that ran until the rear rope seal gave out. I stumbled onto a 312 that I haven't installed. I've been thinking about dropping in a 390 that was given to me, but I really like how my 292 ran and I think I might get it a y-block. The 390 can go in something ferocious...someday...maybe.
@@xmo552 I do like the way the y-blocks run, but parts are going to be a whole lot more available for that 390. I've got a 390 in a Galaxie but it needs a carb. If you wanted to stay stock I would see if you could find a new seal.
the same order like the audi v8
It is! forgot about the Audi V8.
From 2000 to 4000 sounds amazing 😍
Cooling.
Race corvettes with the LT5.5 engine also use this pattern (numbered differently)
Same as all cross-plane dohc nissans, just labeled differently. (VH41, VH45, VK45, VK50, VK56) Thank you so much for putting this together! It helps tremendously for my little brain to think about header primary lengths to balance pulses.
I know it's cheap to make the request, but as fun brain food; I'd love to see Jumo 222
It is! Junkers 222 looks like an interesting take on a radial engine, I plan to do a few single row radials but it will be too hard to see what is going on with multirows.
@@WilliamMoser thanks 👋👋👋
Can you make a header that makes a cross plane V8 sound like a flatplane V8 ??
Yes, they are called 180 degree headers.
I still have an hour before I get off work to drive my car home, so I had to come here.
Yep still like it over ls firing order
It sounds like a real engine below like 6k-8k rpms, above that it turns into a buzzer
Actually somewhat sounds like my dad's 1988 Mustang.
That’s exactly how my Router works...
Just me or does the start sound like Phil Collins - In the air tonight?
I Simulate a Audiovisual demonstration for the Cleetus McFrland Turbo Mercury Marauder engine.
YOU BET! BAD EYES, SIR :) THANKS
Everything sounds angry at 10k rpm
Is this simalar to nascars v8s?
What program do you use?
Arduino
does it actually make sence that in a 4 stroke V8 engine only one piston at a time fires??? can someone explain that to me pls
Idk if it makes sense for efficiency, power, or anything else but it is true.... they fire 1 at a time.
Have you done the s65 firing order 1-5-4-8-7-2-6-3? I went looking for it on your videos but couldn't find it.
Coming soon
@@renatinhodaheropuch1260 how the hell do you know?
Seeing this visually, I wonder if there has been consistent cases of part-failures or other issues with Cylinders 1&2.
Since Cylinder 2 fires, and then 1 right after, wouldn’t that section of the block experience uneven heating? Im comparing this to if 1&2 were on opposite sides of the block. (Or firing order changed so it’s next to fire is always an opposing cylinder)
It seems Ford has 2-firing orders as well, but both exhibit this same characteristic of 2-same-side cylinders firing one after the other at some point in the firing sequence.
It's a consideration, Ford has used 3 firing orders, interestingly they went back to the flathead firing order for the Miami V8 used in the Mustang.
It's not rally a huge issue to have the front 2 cylinders fire right next to each other as far as cooling is concerned, as most v8's water inlet is at the front of the engine working its way to the back. The main issue with firing the front two cylinders one after the other comes into play when discussing crankshaft bearing wear and crankshaft flexing. If you need a further explanation, feel free to reply.
I was also having thoughts about the 2-1-5 part, they are the 3 most frontal pistons and they fire one after another. Wouldn’t this also make it unbalanced?
@@stevesteele3312 I haven't seen any evidence that firing order on a crossplane V8 makes any difference to balance.
@@stevesteele3312 engine balance is made possible primarily due to the crankshaft's counterweights (counterbalances). The balance is there to counteract the forces of acceleration and deceleration from the pistons and connecting rods.
Ford flathead revving to 10000 rpm?
I hope it got some billet oil pump gears
What happened?
"I threw a bulb at six thousand"
0:31 Sounds great
Sounds like R1 on high RPMs
Why do the banks sound different?I mean, what does it mean in real car?
The sound is made by two speakers and they sound different for a few reasons. In a car a seperated system will usually not be perfectly symmetrical, so each side will sound a bit different. In these videos it just helps seperate the sound of each bank as well as the stereo effect.
@@WilliamMoser thank you man. So even every cylinder in an inline engine would sound different in a real car right?Like you did in a video with an inline 6.
@@alexmason6191 each cylinder in any engine will sound a little bit different, I did the individual speakers on the I6 and a few others because they didn't sound like the real deal with one speaker.
@@WilliamMoser hm, it makes sence now, thank you one more time man
Don’t most crossplane crank V8’s use this order?
nope, i'd say 18436572 is the most common followed by 18726543
William Moser I see
Most crossplane V8's go 18436572 (right first) or 12734568 (left first).
Watch in 2x for 20k rpm
With all these demonstrations, the RPM showed is half of what it should be. Perhaps forgot to take into account that a four-stroke fires every other rotation? The sounds and revs as they are demonstrate the power pulse frequency of a two-stroke engine. That is why at only 3000rpm indicated, the engine sounds like it's really starting to scream.
Show your working
Do the hemi firing order v8
ruclips.net/video/iw4rqQD479o/видео.html
Seems similar to the BMW S65 firing order.
It will be the same as one of the V8 videos i've uploaded but with different cylinder numbering.
Its not (s65: 1-5-4-8-7-2-6-3)
Yep, that's the 4.6.
No, 4.6 uses a different firing order. This is the 5.0 Coyote and Flat-head firing order
@@mr.horsepower8125 This is the firing order of the Hyundai 4.6L (old post I know)
I wonder if he adds engine noise to this lol
Sound like CG 125 with coyote RS4 exastut
eu vejo que tem um brasileiro além de mim
Also BMW V8 engines
It is! but not the S65 apparently, which I need to do some day.
@@WilliamMoser thank you maybe
V8 f1 created this is orden and sound
Sounds like r1 m
DO A K SERIES VTEC ENGINE BWAAAAAAAP
Vtec coming soon
I THINK (not sure) THAT THE 2011 5.0 COYOTE FIRING ORDER WHEN CHANGED TO THE SAME FLATE HEAD ORIGINAL FIRING ORDER INSTANTLY GAVE THE 5.0 100 HP AT THE CRANK USING THE VINTAGE FIRE ORDER. I LOVE THE COYOTE(FORDS)!
That was when they changed from the 4.6 modular to the coyote wasn't it? I've driven both, the 4.6 was pretty boring, the coyote felt and sounded great!
YES, WILLIAM YOU'RE CORRECT. TO ME EVEN THE 3V SOUND IS UNIQUE BUT THE COYOTE HAS THE "BITE" AND "BARK". THANKS!
The coyote is a great engine but the firing order had very little to do with the change in horsepower from the 4.6 to the 5.0 lol. It's a bigger engine with way better heads that flow way more air at a considerably higher rpm with a higher compression ratio. That's your 100 horsepower right there! Lol 😂
THANKS PATRICK. I LOVE THE FIRING ORDER CHANGE!
@@emmettcunninghamjr.5207 Do you really need to use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS in every comnent
Funny how it sounds like v8
Sounds like a NASCAR engine
Cayote Mustang
We need vtec
is this nascar
0:25
Jesus maybe its a good thing most coyotes cant rev to 10k, they sound like discount F1 cars.
Weird order... i dont even like coyote sounds
tommy d u b b s; That's because you are forced to listen as they pass you !!! These videos all sound the same. The only thing that makes a cross plane V8 sound like it does is because cylinder on each bank fire consecutively and this happens on all cross plain engines. THEY ALL SOUND THE SAME. If they sound different, it's not the firing order. Could be cam, compression, exhaust or tune.
@@daleostrom3613 Actually the firing order has an effect on the sound, in combination with the headers and X-pipe. If they all used perfectly equal length headers, then yeah, they'd sound the same. But each engine not only has its own firing order, it also has its own range of header / exhaust setups. Any cylinder-to-cylinder variation affects the perceived configuration, whereas bulk changes such as cam timings only affect the timbre. Of course, it's possible to put a different cam grind on each cylinder, and the same is true of ignition timing trim as well. The intake manifold has a similar effect by how uniformly it fills each cylinder.
These "original" (Big-Z - draw out the diagrams) V8 firing orders sound sweeter to my ears because the pulses don't bunch up like, say, an LS order (little-Z) does in the typical stock manifolds with X-pipe, or indeed most "shorty" style aftermarket headers. Remove the X-pipe and it's harder to tell the difference, but it's still there. If you can't hear past the timbre of what comes after the X-pipe (so, muffler resonances and anti-resonances), then these differences are even harder to notice.
TVR stumbled upon gold when they put the headers on backwards on a "Rover" (Buick) V8, into an equal Y-pipe arrangement, and discovered the infamous "Griffith growl". That arrangement almost rescues an LS-style order, too...
identiticrisis; I said these VIDEOS all sound the same.
@@daleostrom3613 Right, but you also said _"if they sound different, it's not the firing order"_ - which is not really accurate for the reasons I mentioned. If you put the same (unequal) headers on engines with different firing orders, they *will* sound different.
The main reason these all sound the same, aside from the near-perfect timing you never get in a real engine, is that there are only two speakers: one for each "bank". This is analogous to the perfectly equal length, separate headers I mentioned.
Ironically, this two-speaker approach actually hides the differences with the two-cylinder engines (also in this channel), as the signature harmonics aren't allowed to build up like they would on a single speaker (the same is true of real-world twins that use separate or merged exhausts, to a lesser extent).
identiticrisis; It's OK, if that's what you think.