Audiovisual demonstration of Ford Windsor (late), Cleveland, Modular (most) V8 FIring order
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2016
- This firing order is 1 3 7 2 6 5 4 8 and is shared by:
Late Windsor 302HO, 335, 351,427, 5.0L, 5.6L
Cleveland 302, 351, 400
Modular 281, 302, 323, 330, 351, 354, 4.6L Авто/Мото
Don't hit those revs you'll throw out a bulb
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**Connecting rod*
I just cannot believe how 99% of the signature sound of each engine is all in the firing order. It doesn't matter what sound each "pop" makes, when they are revved up it always sounds just like the engines we know. So amazing.
Because engine sound relies on the crank
@@robertmorrow4875 I'd say it's the cam(s), the crank can be exactly the same but the firing order different. The cam and ignition determine the firing order. (Of course the crank has to put the piston at the right place.)
It does matter what sound each pop makes though. each cylinder in these videos has a different "pop" tone based on the length of the exhaust headers of he real engine. That's the biggest factor to why these firing order videos have the signature sound of the real engine.
@@castin5244 not exactly, the right side is just higher pitch than the left, in fact this is pretty similar to what i did when i tried simulating an engine with scratch
What about diésel engines, like the Hilux's
That "whine" between 5000 and 7000 and the warble as it swings thru 8000 is so accurate!
again, Ford has such an agressive sound when put under load, and such a nice soft tone at idle :)
Cam it and it has an aggressive tone at idle and that same aggressive roar as it climbs into the RPM's.
When the street is noisy and the engine's warmed up, I can't hear my 5.0 F-150 at idle ever since I changed the harmonic balancer and timing chain! It's also louder than ever at 4,000 lol. Clydesdale GT forever.
@@cellphonelightsaber my 85 f150 during warm up is pretty loud, its got the 5.0 aswell
Idle misfires at the start are not simulated xdd
Thanks for accelerating this one a bit slower, particularly in the lower rpms.
Literally the best v8 firing order.
Best sounding V8
Thats near what almost any cross or flat plane crank v8 would sound like, if it had equal length runners going into an 8 to 1 collector. Regular exhaust systems tend to have exhaust pulse overlap, and gaps between exhaust stroke events, because of longer and shorter runners. Cross plane cranks have 1 then 2 full cycles per left and right banks at a time. So even if your headers were equal length going into an x pipe, the pipes between the collectors and the x would have a (1), (1,2), (1), (1,2) pulse of exhaust gass. A flat plane v8, like a Ferrari. Has a (1), (1), (1), (1) left to right exhaust pulse. The reason its the best sounding is because the exhaust sound in the video is even and in a row, just like a 8 into 1. Here is a link to a car that has almost perfect exhaust pulses. He did it a different way but with very similar results. ruclips.net/video/pG2TvSl8dRY/видео.html fast forward to 3:55 to hear it. And check out his other videos they are pretty cool!
@@turboman2668 I found this out when I had a custom single exhaust made for my Australian Ford Fairlane with the 5.4 3V. The pipes of the two banks were equal length before they merged, giving even pulses like an 8 to 1 collector. I took it back and had one side lengthened and that gave the sound pulses from the two banks some timing separation and I now have the V8 (cross plane) sound. :)
@@turboman2668 bro this is very aye opening for me, I’m currently making a 302 swap on a 240sx and I’ve been thinking lot of making this exhaust but didn’t have a clue if was worth spending the extra tubing. Thanks a lot
I don't know how I missed all these comments, the crossplane V8s I've heard with 8-1 or crossover headers haven't sounded like flatplane engines, not sure how much power difference they make. For a front engines car I would just go long primary 4-1s with a H pipe maybe.
427
It has that Strong muscular undertone to it!
Right there at 3800 - 5400 as you climbed it sounds almost dead on.
Floor-It-Duh, got a 351w in my f150 and I can agree 😂😂
You're not wrong at all. This fall I got my 96 GT with an 01 bullitt engine running but it was open long tubes, and this is strikingly similar
I drove my Mark VII around straight piped for a while and it set my hair on end how it sounded exactly the same at those rpms. crazy
Indeed. Very similar to my buddy's T-bird with a 4.6 2V.
Been waiting for a rotary demonstration.
What a trip! Who knew firing order has the sound character of the engine! Cool demo...thanks for this. This really hits home how scavenging and runner length affects the power range. It’s all sonics!
351C-4V in my 70 Mach 1 and the 5.0HO coming to my mind.
Go me, this reminded me of my 89 f250, it brought som good memories back
Really make me miss my old f150, what a beast
Sounds like a Crown Vic, nice.
Just found out ab these vids today. This is the one i was looking for!
Glad you found it!
Makes me miss my explorer
I had a 97 mountaineer, best goddamn vehicle I've driven. I miss mine too
Sounds just like my Marquis around 2000-3000rpm.
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The *Ford Crown Victoria* and *Lincoln Town Car* have the *exact same stock exhaust note,* since they're built on the same chassis.
Hell yeah! SBF for the MFWin 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Sounds like the V8 sound in beamng drive
hahahaaha yep
It's the low-end hum that makes it sound like the gavril imo
From 1000 to 2000, it sounds like a v6
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no?
holy shit this sounds just like my crown vic. please make videos featuring shifting between gears!
A windsor that revs to 10k RPM. huh
Still sounds better than my 460.
Where's the 4 bangers cuh, damn..
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Ah yes the 4.6L V8 in my first car, the Thunderbird
Yep sounds like my Crown Vic
Need some 351 Windsor!
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In my opinion it sounds like a Nascar V8. Especially when it hits 7000+ RPM
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When it got around 6k rpm it sounded like a lot of the gas pull trucks that I watch.
Sounds like my 5.4 3v at idle 😂
That's the 4.6 alright.
Sounds like a 2007 Ford Explorer V8 4.6L 3V
It’s the Formula engine from Rush 2 Extreme Racing USA
Lol the sound is like an Amiga video game
HA - waiting for a rod to let go. Have a nice day all. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.
Look up in the sky...... its piston 3
4.6 at 10,000 rpm 😂
What is a music track ?)
Ive gof a 351 windsor in my ford lightning
It sounds almost dead on. But why would different firing orders affect how an engine sounds? Even if it's still cross plane vs. cross plane
Differences between my videos are down to setup differences, all crossplane V8s are LRLLRLRR.
I don't think firing order changes make any difference to the sound of a real (crossplane V8) engine, an LS1 sounds very different to a late model Windsor for example and they have the same firing order once you transpose the cylinder numbers.
ok thats hot
wow it sound like my truck1
Ok, I might sound dumb asking this, but please help a brother out. Whenever a light glows, which stroke does it represent? I'm guessing it's the Power stroke, I could be wrong though...
pretty much!
@@WilliamMoser thank you for clarifying. Excellent videos btw. Keep it up.
@@aadarshtushar9133 cheers!
As far as i can see by looking through your v8 firing order videos, you're missing one classic American v8 engine with a slightly different layout. The Cadillac big block has a 15634278 firing order, the RH bank leading #1 cylinder and numbering altered across the banks.
this "ford HO" firing order is actually the same firing order as the cadillac, with the cylinders re-numbered haha
Sounds just like my '89 F250 351. Won't rev anywhere near that high though
Sound like a ford F150 with kurt egzoz
how did you make it?。
Arduino, LEDs and speakers
Fully Cross Plane Crank V8 Sound Engine and Exhaust
it sounds like a nascar v8
Toyota 1uz and 3uz?
Not sure about 3UZ, but 1UZ is the same as the earlier smallblock Fords (video here somewhere)
Sounds like a nascar
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Does the Coyote use this order as well?
No, coyote is the same as the flathead ruclips.net/video/uhKSPLdCiCo/видео.html
and its a damn shame it doesn't since the coyote firing order sounds like shit.
@@MODIT the sound of a crossplane V8 has very little to do with the firing order, they all have the same firing interval left to right. Most coyotes I've heard sound pretty good
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This engine sound sound like a flute music
Same pattern as the G.M. LS
LS has the 8th and 3rd cylinder reversed but yeah, they pinched it :p
Do you know why Ford changed the Firing order(swapped 3 for 5 and 4 for 7) on late model Windsors and later V8's?
Lets see how many sleuths we have here. Or maybe you just know off the top of your head. I know the answer already.
No idea, enlighten me! Do you know why they went back the "flathead order" for the Coyote?
Following this one id like to learn as well
Supposed to be because of the excessive load on the number one main journal, when 1 &5 fire in sequence, but I think it just moved it to the rear main journal with 4&8 firing in sequence, maybe it’s a stronger journal?
@Jim Goff 7 and 8 are closer to the flywheel, less twisty there.
@@jimgoff1170 This is one of the reasons. More support on the rear main. Although it was a more of a "hey that benefits as well" reason. Back in the late 80's I asked a Regional Ford Tech Instructor why the 302HO switched to the first 351W firing order. Said the reason involved Cam shafts and availability from Cam grinders to Ford. Number a GM V8's cylinders the same as Ford does and watch the firing order match up. This order was originally engineered this way to lessen the amount of adjacent cylinders on the same bank from firing one after the other. Starting with the early model 351W with the 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 they(Ford) noted they had fewer head gasket failures. Something GM had already figured out.
So basically it all came down to the Cam shaft and head gaskets.