Michael Jai White on Tarantino Depicting Bruce Lee Getting Beat Up (Part 16)
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In this clip, Michael Jai White shared his thoughts on Quentin Tarantino recently addressing the controversial scene in "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," where Brad Pitt's character beats up Bruce Lee. Michael Jai White then revealed that he had heard that Tarantino was going to depict either Bruce Lee or Jim Brown in the scene, and Michael added that he would've also been upset if Jim Brown was beat up in the movie. Michael Jai White then explained that the scene "speaks to white supremacy," as he feels that it shows a white character beating up an Asian man, and he added that Tarantino is using his creative licenses with the scene. He added that his scene in "Kill Bill" involved him being beat up by Bill, played by the late actor David Carradine, to make the main character look better. To hear more, including Michael Jai White's thoughts on Tarantino's character saying the n-word in "Pulp Fiction," hit the above clip.
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I met this man at a comic con in Michigan. My son wanted to see him because he was in spawn. This man was incredibly nice. He seemed genuinely happy to be there and came from around the table to take a pic with my son. His attitude was great and I have always remembered meeting him and the experience of his great attitude.
@MajinAdam and then there is all the shitty employees around the world working in service industry being absolutely rude all day even they get paid too
You act like it is easy to do
@MajinAdam you sound upset lmao. It must sucks to hate someone saying something good. Miserable at best lol.
Awesome memory dude.
Seen somebody say something on the internet 500 different times hard to believe sorry
@MajinAdam "Usually" being the operative word here. Some of these celebs can be downright nasty at cons too.
If stirring the pot was an Olympic event Vlad would take gold.
Lmao
RDC world been quiet since you said this
facts
When accepting the gold out of nowhere a flashback of boosie would pop up lol
😂 FAAAACTS
All due respect to Tarantino, but he was wrong when he stated that Bruce disliked the stuntmen. He mentioned he got that info from a book he read on Bruce Lee, but the author of that very book said that Tarantino was incorrect about what he said. Bruce never disrespected the stuntmen on the set. Ever. He would disrespect the producers and directors, but never the talent.
Facts
How do you know?
Stuntmen say otherwise. Tarantino got his stories about Bruce Lee from stunt men.
@@blacktionjackson7133 you can't give names because you're lying.
@@GODCONVOYPRIME Well then have a name right here: Gene LeBell. He is old enough to not give a shit about what other people think about his opinions and he has nothing but praise for Bruce Lee´s character. And he ought to know, having worked with him and a multitude of other stars (action or otherwise) and stuntmen. He also also is quite outspoken about people he thinks are assholes... just ask Steven Seagal.
My issue was Tarantino tried to play it off like it was a spoof and he was having fun with it. But then on the other hand he says he didn’t make it up and Bruce Lee was really arrogant like that. So then it becomes an agenda because he didn’t like Bruce Lee and wanted to make fun of him. And the guy isn’t here to defend himself so I felt like it lacked class.
Ultimately the guy did it to create controversy and get people to watch the movie and obviously to some extent it actually worked.
An interview with several people who worked with Bruce spoke on how humble and kind he was. Being a martial artist at the level he was at, there would have been a hint of arrogance. Many top martial artists carry an air of arrogant confidence. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t nice people.
@@Jensley_Report “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
- Mark Twain
Your argument is without Logic. Tarantino is known to do Extra-ordinary amount of Research on his movies... and money is no Object to get 'all the facts' --- KNOW THIS much; Chuck Norris was a Full-Contact 3X Karate Champion and even Chuck insinuated that he would beat the Crap out of Bruce ---- 'Bruce was an Actor... I was the Full Contact Karate Champion' ~Chuck Norris (connect the dots).
@jjsiegal1 Huh all of his movies are fictional. 😂
@@joshuagerthoffer2321 So what --- that doesn't preclude research --- do some homework Josh !
I believe at the core of Shannon Lee's dissatisfaction with the portrayal of her father is - she's keenly aware for an Asian actor to elevate himself to the status her father did in that era, he had to work ten times as hard as his white counterparts. He had to be f*cking EXTRAORDINARY. All that crap he navigated through, the obstacles he overcame, the injustices suffered (being passed over for the lead in the 'Kung Fu' series), and to thrive with all that pitted against him, he had to have been an exceptional human being. Then to have his character so minimized, his legacy so reduced in 'Once Upon a Time...,' that's too hard a jagged pill to swallow. So I get that.
Nobody back then was taking white people doing martial arts on film seriously. If you were Asian it was immediately more believable to people. Racism actually works in people’s favor sometimes. Chuck was never as famous yet he had career actually demonstrating his skills in competition. So the racism excuse doesn’t work well. Every martial arts movie in the 70s and early 80s was dominated by Asians.
This
Are you kidding me? Lee was handled with kid gloves and made to appear far more extraordinary than he actually was.
I think vlad was a little let down when Michael said "I don't think he's racist."
Definitely seemed that way.
´not for a second?' :(
Daniel Hernandez it seems like Vlad loves instigating.
You heard all in his voice😆😆
but on this occasion vlads prolly right
What most media outlets ain't making clear is that most Bruce Lee fan's had a much bigger problem with the way Bruce was portrayed ignorantly and arrogantly talking shit about Muhammad Ali, an idol of his, and "..that white kickboxing asshole.." Joe Lewis, a real life student and friend of Bruce's. Bruce would never had said such things about other respected fighters, especially in unfamiliar company, and definitely not about those 2 men.
These things rubbed us the wrong way a fuckload of a lot more than that inaccurately portrayed fight scene.
Facts
You have no idea what you are saying. He was so infamous for roughing up the stunt guys on the set of Green Hornet that nobody wanted to work with him. In comes Gene Labell who will. They have a friendly but competitive fight where Gene beats him using Judo. They become close friends, Gene trains Bruce in judo and the grappling he learned is incorporated into Jet Kune Do by Bruce. Dramatic liscense isn't dishonesty, nobody's freaking out because he altered the events of the Manson murders because its a film not a documentary.
@@DigitalDuelist I wasn't disputing what you're trying to say I was.
I was pointing out the fact that most Bruce Lee fans were far more pissed off about him being portrayed as an utter dickhead who publicly insults individuals he was known in real life to have a lot of respect for, than we were about a fictional him losing a fictional fight to a fictional character.
I've seen videos and heard and read quotes of Gene Lebell himself saying that Bruce Lee was very respectful of fellow fighters, especially those he admired.
@@DigitalDuelist You don't know what the hell you talking about. Bruce Lee wanted make fight scenes close to realistic. He humbled himself by finally listening to Van Williams stunt double and Gene Lebell, Bruce adjusted , changed his approach. Don't use word, "infamous" , Bruce treated the doubles at Enter the Dragon as equals, eat with the stars not eat scraps. Bruce also checked if he accidentally hurt any stunts on the set on his Hong Kong movies. Once the American stuntmen got to know Bruce Lee, they developed great respect for Bruce. Golden Bell podcast got docu video on this. And Tarantino is an arrogant Prick with no originality stole ideas from old movies.
@@DigitalDuelist YOU have no idea what you are talking about. The stunt double culture was different in America and HongKong, they are all about "tagging" or going all out - At that time as racist as America was, Lee also harboured hate towards them (but ofc both of them were wrong at that point)
he didn’t do jim brown cause he is alive to defend himself
I think he meant Jim Kelly.
Paul Shalom - I think he meant Jimmy Johns the sandwhich shop guy
Jim Brown wouldn't have made much sense anyways. He was just so physically imposing in his youth, it wouldn't be believable to have Brad Pitt beat him up (on a side note, isn't ageing such a tragic part of life? To see Jim Brown now, the youth of today wouldn't believe he was the same RB for the Browns all those years ago)
I don't think he meant jim brown because at the time this is when dude don't know his name him and Bruce were on the set of some movie forgot the name and this was when Bruce was in green hornet so I don't think Jim or the other Jim knew nolt at the time was a trained green barret killer/ military nonetheless Bruce was still faster but Jim brown or Kelly didn't know Bruce lee then so Michael jai white got his facts mixed up
@@corneilmadison8971 You forgot "Enter The Dragon"?? Bruce's most successful film and a world famous classic?? You sure you want to be commenting on a post about Bruce Lee?...LOL.
“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”
- What if Sharon Tate didn’t die?
- What if Tex and the 2 girls went into the wrong house and got butchered?
- What if Bruce Lee was a dick?
Once Upon a Time.
Thats what i tought. Its a fairy tale for gods sake!
I gotta admit that's a great interview I really like how Michael Jai white acknowledge the fact that most of the negative perceptions about him is all about his past statements about Bruce Lee.
Hypothetically speaking, I wonder if Tarantino would have done that scene if Bruce were still alive?
A hard NO
No he wouldnt he would get smacked thats why he do whatever he wants and disrespects because no one has punched his stupid face
artistically: yes. legally: no.
He’d still be a bitch ass director for it
Fuck no.
Jackie Chan is the only stuntman that talks respect about Bruce lee I love Bruce lee and his movies 💪🏻
Jackie was just a teenager when he worked with Bruce Lee as a stuntman.
Gene lebell
plenty more stuntmen in Hong Kong respect him like Samo Hung and Yuen Wah, both these guys are also school brothers of Jackie Chan. I also heard American stuntmen did trash talk Bruce Lee.
The Hong Kong stuntmen worshipped Bruce. He got them better pay and treatment, asked for the same food they were getting and ate with them, made a point to yell at Raymond Chow and the people in charge to show the crew who was boss, was hand-picking a group of them, including Jackie, to go back to America with him. They were also fiercely protective and, not to spread rumors, but one of the dudes who challenged Bruce to a fight during Enter (and got his ass handed to him, lol) was reportedly found floating in the harbor that same week.
@@randalwung8715 when Jackie Chan became the big star he would usually cook up big pots of food for the HK stuntmen and crew.
Fun fact: That movie scene was Vlad's favorite.
Fuck Vlad tho 🤷🏾♂️
@@kevthepoet You need some tampax?
i stopped watching the movie as soon as i seen that scene, turned that BS off right after
On tam pochovaný není setko sme naplánovali.na Slovensku je prevezený.. žije v base..
@@jankamarmanova6248 bubba go doodoo in my shoe shoes
I love how everyone in the chat knew Bruce Lee so well. Rare place right here
I taught Bruce Lee a few moves, I couldn't do more, he lacked both talent and discipline. But he was really nice.
I taught him the flying drop kick & how to swing nun-chuckas without hitting yourself in the head when I was two years old😂 He had raw talent but took a lot of polishing
I taught him the front kick. He taught it to Segal, who taught it to Anderson Silva.
People can learn a lot through research. Not speaking of Bruce personally as I don't know much about his personality beyond film.
the man has been covered extensively
Micheal jai white is a timeless piece he showed his work and talent and did extra roles for some companies early on but overall An amazing actor
Michael Jai White seems like whatever he gets into he becomes a real scholar of whatever it is. (Movies, martial arts)
Dude usually knows wtf he’s talking about in those regards.
Except when its about Buddhist monks.
The ...... a person is, the easier they are impressed.
@@charliem.5813 dumber?
Well movies and martial arts are also his source of income, so I’m sure he takes those serious
He knows about Japanese martial arts, but he gets it all wrong when he switches to Shaolin and kung fu. But other than that...
"Samuel L Jackson defended him at one point".
Yes and he got rewarded for it with that role in Django😂
😂😂😂😂 Hold this sir -->W
Umm no
I Haven't Seen Most Of His Films But He Owes Sam His Career.
I Was Mad When He Got Killed In Seconds In A True Romance.
Facts when I seen Samuel Jackson making excuses for racism I'm like oh he that famous that reality doesn't exist.🤣
Sam Jax has been in Tarantino moves from the before Django. Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown were before Django.
Lee wasn't really beaten up in that scene though, it ended pretty even.
My main issue with it was Bruce saying he would cripple Ali;
whereas in reality he studied Ali's boxing closely, regarded him as 'the greatest fighter',
and said he would definitely lose to Ali.
@@gi7685 I love the American Ninja Movies you & Steve James made back in the 1980s! I can't believe Steve James! Been dead since 1993! They talk about other Decease Black Movie Stars! But I haven't heard nothing about Steve James! Until Two Years Ago!
We have to remember there's many aspects of a situation going on. Bruce was a short skinny chinese guy in a white male American dominated industry where foreigners (especially Chinese guys) weren't seen as marketable. Chinese men were also seen as weird and even effeminate.
It's possible that the movie (and also even in real life) Bruce Lee had to overcompensate for his lack of notoriety and size by showing off a cocky and mysterious aura to command respect from those he worked with. That's why you see Bruce wearing the shades and douchey gloves and talking about how he could easily "cripple" Ali. Bruce seemed to be nice to fellow chinese workers but was more brutal on American stuntmen. It's a cutthroat industry. It mirrored DiCaprio's character. Most audiences wouldn't get that since we're wayyyy outside the Hollywood industry (and especially not from that era back then). We also deify Bruce Lee which clouds what goes on behind the scenes.
@@TheSwordfish009 well said
Bruce Lee's Jeet Kun Do was comprised of many styles, the leg movement is referenced of Muh'd Ali. It was Respect. It was not like he was biting his style. He said outright where that came from.
Love and Light to Both Legends.
@@TheSwordfish009 Bruce was in his Kato costume... which is why the gloves.
No matter what the real truth around Bruce Lee is, it's a pretty cheap shot to take the legacy of a dead man, especially one who has little to no one who actually knew him saying anything bad about him, and taking this man and trying to demean that person.
Revising history is what white people do! Who else is a better historian than Europeans? 🤨🤨🤨
"White supremacy, just like Hitler"
Hitler is dead.
"So what?"
You just said no to speak ill of the dead
"Only a white supremacist defends Hitler"
Agree
Wtf, how is Tarantino a white supremacist when Jamie Foxx and Samuel L. Jackson were respectively cast as leading men? MJW really embarrassed himself with his victim mentality.
MJW seems so chill and cool. Doesn’t seem the fame hasn’t gone to his head. Feel bad for the loss him and his family has had recently. My prayers go out to them
Mine too
Your in our hearts and prayers MJW
@@guyincognito8440 The same fame that has him known for a Major role (Spawn) and landed him minor parts in big movies including Dark Knight. 1mill+ on RUclips and a solid fan base and recognition as a legit martial artist (look at him showing Jon Jones how to throw a non-telegraphing punch). Oh and the same fame that brings you to his interview with Vlad. That fame.
@@thephilosopher7173 tell him king.
@@guyincognito8440 a nobody like you?
Wait what hapened to him and his family?
Damn, White is a smart dude. I like how he listens to the questions before speaking
Yep.....Doesn't anticipate a question and starts answering. He makes sure he understands the questions. He doesn't allow himself to be lead into saying anything out of turn. Smart AF.
Does he have a choice? That interviewer is almost interviewing himself he talks constantly
Van Williams talked about Lei Siu Lung' situation with stuntmen in his interviews about his relationship with him on the Green Hornet. He gives a significantly different narrative than Quentin.
What was done wrong was that Bruce Lee in the movie didn’t feel like the guy at all, it seemed that his character was interchangeable. If you were to replace a few bells and whistles he would have been a completely different character, which apparently was the case.
Tarantino lost most of my respect after that scene about Bruce Lee..
Maybe he doesn't care about your respect
@@ScottMartain oeh you are so
Edgy 😱
That guy in Tarantino's movie wasn't even close to the speed and technical skill of Bruce. Cliff was too slow. At least make it look believable. Bruce wouldn't lost to some slow guy in a suit. Keep dreaming Tarantino.
Bruce wouldn't have FOUGHT a guy who had a chance to beat him.
People talk so much shit about the "legend of Bruce Lee" without ever realizing that they've never actually seen him fight. That's a fact.
Seeing Bruce Lee in movies is NOT a real fight.
Seeing Bruce Lee doing "DEMOS" is NOT a real fight.
Snatching pebbles from hands and doing a one inch punch DEMO against men who are stationary and not resisting is NOT REAL FIGHTING.
Millions of people put their belief in Hollywood and movies.
For years these same people were claiming that Jean Claude Van Damme was one of the greatest MARTIAL ARTISTS/FIGHTERS in the world.
Same with Segal.
For some people seeing MOVIES is believing .. and you can't reason with them because they've made up their minds.
Looked like a goofy parody rather than being a depiction.
Its tarantinos version
His character could do anything he wants too your comment is just plain stupid
@@asswuppin you don't know what Bruce Lee would or wouldn't do so stop typing your comment like you knew him personally jackass. Second he is unfortunately a dead man so none of us will ever know what he would have done or became to be, the way Bruce lee's was as a man he didn't look for fights but people always want the fantasy of somebody beating him that's hating to be so jealous of someone else instead of trying it yourself you just critique there every existence in life and dispute everything about them even after they are dead. I'm tired of hearing stories from cowards that were around at the time but waited until the person they speak about has died or went through something to speak with an ill intention for some type of clout or talking point because they haven't did anything they can talk about. The Bruce Lee fantasy stories is overrated and out dated let the man rest in peace I doubt he would have asked for some bullshit biopic trying to discredit him if he were alive!
bruce lee is 5'6" and we are to believe he can beat 6'4" former soldier white guy 😅😅
The Jim Brown aspect really shows the WS part of it, the WS were very mad at Jim Brown around that time period for doing a love scene with Raquel Welch in "100 Rifles", I had a friend tell me his Father ripped her poster off his wall after that.
🤣🤣🤣
Well everyone at that time thinks that Guys like Clint Eastwood,or John Wayne or Steve McQueen or any other White Hollywood star should be the one kissing Raquel
Funny thing is Raquel is Latina.
@@rodinowright6591 There's no such thing as a Latino race. She's white regardless of where her parents are from.
Damn... Real story and not just people talking out there ass. Thanks!
I kinda get what Michael's saying, but brad Pitts character kinda implies Muhammad Ali would have beat them both which kinda softened the WS element.
How is it "white supremacist" to depict Bruce Lee as an ahole?
Facts. Tarantino gave full credit to Ali with that scene. BUT the bigger picture is Tarantino is implying western martial arts is more advanced than imperial martial arts. WHICH is not false🤷🏾♂️
@@mybestnugget7514 Maybe in boxing and wrestling cuz we practice it more, imperial marital arts were always practicing more on defense and countering ur Opponent.
@@hunniebunnies all you need is bjj defense a real wrestler is gonn win.
@@mybestnugget7514 no he wasn't. He was implying a great fighter would beat a movie star
THANK YOU Michael Jai White! I thought the exact same thing when I saw this!
Went from Hateful 8 to dominating Bruce Lee! Michael Jae White is right about this he called it what it is! Thank Goodness he at least gave him the deleted scene acknowledgement with the special features... Quentin Tarantino is one of those rare people who can dip through any cypher if you pay close attention.
Vlad got a little uneasy when he said "white supremacy"
Because it should’ve never been injected into the conversation in the first place.
It was necessary
Yes it is systematic white supremacy mentally embedded in most white people mind to make the white man look like he's the hero always.... tell me I'm wrong.. you look back in history on movies that's the receipts.
I’m glad he said it cause that’s how I felt when I watched the movie💯
@@6atlantis well that’s his opinion on it and that why vlad is interviewing him, it’s for his opinion…going forward, whenever he interviews mjw just don’t watch…I mean you clearly have your own opinion but wanna not listen to someone else’s….shame on you…shameful
3:21 It's some more Tarzan shit to me. DAMSON Facts
whats the deal with Tarzan? what does that have to do with anything? just wondering.
Well in the original works Tarzan is basically more bitter to whites more than the native Africans. He just dislikes humans in general. It does later on become a whole white savior bullshit tho.
Sounds like pro wrestling " Bruce Lee put Brad Pitt over for a big push" lol
Bruce refused to put em over. So cliff beat em in a shoot.
@@CuzinBilly he was going into business for himself lol plus the booker wanted to bury him
@@jonahda0mega the once upon a time in Hollywood screwjob
rick ross turned heel
I was a bit upset too until the reveal at the end of the film, that it's all happening in an alternate reality.
Bruce would shit on Tarantino and you can tell Tarantino a punk his whole life 🤣
My problem with his view on Bruce Lee is its all backed by vicious rumors and lies. Bruce never ever said he could beat Muhammad Ali he said the opposite saying he was obviously way too small to compete with Ali to begin with. Was simply complimenting his style and liked how he moved. Then the american stunt man thing is all hearsay.
If you watch the fight between Bruce and Chuck halfway thru the fight Bruce begins to fight with lighter feet gliding around. That's inspired by how Ali moved in the ring. One big concept Bruce always emphasized in martial arts is the fighter who can successfully attack their opponent without getting hit themselves is a superior martial artist. This is something Ali excelled at as an excellent outboxer.
Bruce Lee could beat Ali though if there was no rules!
he totally said he would beat Ali... he would watch his fights backwards to mimic his moves... so he can use them... to...?
@@TheReedable to expand his own martial art skills? Very narrow minded of you to assume someone watching another's fights means he's trying to beat them.
Also the guy who says Bruce would beat Ali in a no rules street fight... He probably would lose 9 times out of 10. Ali was 214 lbs in his prime while Bruce was around 135-140.
@@bebopong Bruce said it all the time... Even to Dan inosanto. He literally watched ali cause he said he may fight him... And 9 out of 10? You don't know martial arts or even boxing very well... Weight don't mean a whole lot...
Lastly, showing how ignorant you are, no fighter or martial artist will say only he or this person will beat me... The whole fucking idea in martial arts is to BEAT EVERYONE. what artist would you be then? Lol that's part of his entire methodology... Bell opened Lees mind to what he was lacking... Lol narrow minded? Dude boxers watch other boxers and even other fighters to beat them... All the time... Cus Damato had a fight catalogue that was worth MILLIONS... He in didn't collect them for the money. It was research... All wasn't even the greatest. Dempsey was way more popular. Marciano was super tough. Ali said he wasn't sure if he would be Marciano... And he claimed to be the greatest of all time... Dude you're out of your element
It would’ve really messed with me if it was Jim Brown. I felt that
fuck jim brown. WHo cares.
What about Ali?
@ronaldmcdonakd1977. Your wife cares.
Jim brown didn't know dude from once upon a time in Hollywood bruce did i don't know why Mike said Jim brown seriously
@@ronaldmcdonald1977 say it to his face. Jim was a bad dude. Still is.
Bruce Lee is still an Icon regardless of him losing or not. Shout out to MJW💯
Mjw would've knocked bruce tf out ...I would've too..
@@esotericallydoper6319 Don't forget Bruce was a very skilled fighter. Quick and athletic.
@@esotericallydoper6319 that’s what many extras and stunt guys on the sets thought too. Funny thing is they found out otherwise. You sound like those guys that used to talk tough about Tyson and then he would beat them into oblivion.
@@foxtrotthree569 no they didn't...I'm different...bruce Lee might have had skills to show on camera but I would've made him go night night
@@esotericallydoper6319 Yeah you're different alright, you're a keyboard warrior talking about how you'd beat up a dead man. At least Bruce Lee would say what he thought to people's faces win or lose. Fyi I'd literally break your spirit with my cardio to the point you wouldn't even want to watch fights ever again let alone be in one so shut your hole.
Love how the interviewer is trying to lead him in saying that Tarantino is a racist...
The portrayal of Bruce Lee was irresponsible, inaccurate and blatantly racist. There is video of Gene Lebell saying what a nice guy Bruce was. Also Bruce Lee stated IRL that Ali would kick his as*.
I find it funny that he's talking about how he has a problem with how the movie depicting icon like Bruce Lee. But on his show Black Dynamite, they made Mister Roger's into psychopath. All in all. Good interview.
True. But Tarantino doubles down on how Bruce Lee was actually very similaur to how he depicted him in the movie.
Everyone knows Mr Roger's was a Saint. To make him insane in a cartoon, Is an absurd and funny take. Tarantino really believes that Bruce was an asshole, despite the many people who say that he wasnt.
@Scouts Honor says a white man we all know you harass oriental people.
Sometimes it feels like Vlad is trying to steer the conversation in a direction so it will ruin Michael's career.
That’s what he does or get people jailed
He should have done that to Chuck Norris in the film 😂
Fact wtf 😂
Or kickboxer Joe Lewis which Bruce actually mentions in the movie.
Or Bob Walk who was in a couple of Bruce Lee movies.
chuck wasnt famous then
Chuck would mop the floor with Bruce, the only time Bruce beat him was in that colosseum chest hair scene 😂.
From a purely martial arts perspective, when you leave the ground, as Bruce Lee did in that scene, then you become extremely vulnerable
He is right about the Racism aspect. Bruce Lee had to work extra hard in Hollywood to attain success. True fact is that when Bruce played Kato in The Green Hornet Television show he was asked to wear a mask as the Director thought he looked to Oriental without it. Doesn't say much for Hollywood no better than toxic Disney.
That makes no sense. Kato and Green Hornet wore mask. Bruce Li was playing a chauffeur in his alter ego on the show. He wore no mask
Wouldn't be surprised if Bruce Lee and his son were killed by the CIA because the pentagon didn't like the idea of American public seeing Chinese/Half Chinese movie stars as heroes and allies of the American people. This was around the Vietnam War and Korean War.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech Bruce Li 's son died in the 1993/1994. Kung fu movies were popping off in the 70s...you argument makes no sense. Master of Kung Fu starring David Carradine pretended to be Chinese. Great show
@@rodinowright6591 I was referring to Bruce Lee's time of death. His son's death has had many strange events such as a the medical examiner stating he signed it but didn't actually perform the examination.
Perhaps his son was killed because he discovered something about his father's death. Not like Bruce's own death didn't have conspiracy theories at the time.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech bye dude. You're a conspiracy troll. Maybe maybe maybe
bruce lee knew sharon tate. she trained with him and they are friends. the night of the murder, bruce and steve mcqueen were supposed to come down to her house. thats why her husband suspected bruce for awhile there when he found sunglasses at the house. they knew each other.
which is why it would make more sense for bruce to appear in the climax and end the mansons instead of creating a fictional character to do it. or have bruce and brad pitt do it together.
thats what i assumed would happen in the movie
Well said
An early synopsis of the movie said that Bruce Lee killed the people at the end. Would have been a great redemption. But reports from Sundance debunked that and that was sadly never a story line.
Mike kept it 100 and stood on some substance.
he contradicted himself.
No he didnt, what does that movie have to do with "white supremacy" complete nonsense, if a black director made that film and cast bruce Lee the same way no one would say a peep
"I think it's a white supremacy thing..but I love the guy, I don't think he's racist at all."
Vlad always reaches, he spend the whole clip trying to get Michael call Quintin a racist
Dumb questions never produce good answers.
*Don't forget that MJW was the lead for a movie called "Android Cop"* 🤣😅
I just finish watching that pretty funny
If you’re an action star and you don’t have 5 goofy ass movies then I don’t want it
The character Brad Pitt played was based off of John Wayne's stunt man. He really kicked the duke's ass. Why not use that?
The Dukes white.... Why bismerch him.
Nope it wasnt based on that.
@@chandlerscaringia5260 Bullshit.
Terry Wilson ?
@@markelwilliams8593 It was based on Kurt Russell and his stuntman.
It's just movies and acting, I don't think anyone should get butt hurt.
Dude, it's *BRUCE LEE* Mehn.. Bruce Lee is a god to soo many people including me.
i bet youre yt
@@mikhelBrown he's a nobody to me.. Stop being a crybaby
@@arizonaFIREent 😂
Shannon Lee would beg to differ.
Tf it have to do with white supremacy bruh
And let's not forget that "buck breaking" scene from Pulp Fiction with Ving Rhames!
"I believe Brad Pitt could beat Bruce Lee ,if he was the legendary Achilles lol
Lol Bruce Lee was tiny. Brad Pitt could sit on him
Achilles would’ve caught hands too.
@@444-w8k and Brad can't fight. Your point?
Never think a man that hates his own mother , has love for others.
Exactly
What if his mother was a horrible person?
His mother traumatized him, F u saying??
So all Mothers are Good even if they Mess up their kids minds and lives??
Tony, stop talking
I felt the exact same thing Michael Jai White felt whenever I watched it.
I don't believe Tarantino is racist against Asians but I do believe he resents Bruce Lee and used that scene as an opportunity to knock Bruce down from that pedal-stool people hold up so high on.
I mean technically he could have been depicting the time Bruce met Gene LeBell. Bruce Lee met him before he knew about grappling and Brad Pitts character through Bruce into the car....Not kicked like Vlad says. So yea it could be loosely accurate aside from trying to make Bruce seem cocky because there is a difference between cocky and believing in yourself. This also was suppose to be before he fought Wong Jackman who made him change his style due to how long the fight was and how he struggled using just Wing Chun Kung Fu.
I believe fully, no matter the guy was a green beret, Bruce would have found a weakness and destroyed him completely ✌️
Kind of ironic when you listen to Honest Expression wit Binary Star he says "Its easy for one to be cocky and put on a show, but to be honest, well that... is a very hard thing to do".
Bruce lee is a actor since the age of three that’s from California
@@delvinthompson686 you are misinformed
@@gi7685 nope he is not correct Bruce was a martial artist just as well as an actor
I had the same feeling as mjw. Brad Pitt is gonna beat up Bruce lee? Sounds like some white savior BS
Exactly
Yall really bitching and moaning about a fake movie hahaha stop whining
@@arizonaFIREent Bruce lee is a hero to a lot of people. You can’t blame them for being offended
If you haven't watched The Joe Rogan interview I suggest you do. It was actually a true event, during the filming of The Green Hornet Bruce Lee was too intense and used to beat up stuntman so they brought in Gene Lebell who was about 6'5" and over 300 pounds and was a judo champion and also a stunt choreographer Well Gene manhandled Bruce Lee to show him he needs to calm down and stop being so intense with the stuntman.
Any 200+ pound man with decent grappling ability could’ve did the same to Bruce Lee in real life. Bruce Lee was a small man. There’s a reason there is weight classes in fighting
It's ironic that the faded Rick Dalton was being used to make the new up and coming leads seem tough by losing fights to them.
Then Tarantino makes Bruce Lee lose a fight to Cliff Booth to make Cliff look tough.
I originally thought that was deliberate, until he failed to mention it when questioned by Joe Rogan
I have the utmost respect for Michael Jai White, but his white supremacy assertion here is very floppy and not based on any evidence at all other than that Brad Pitt didn't humiliate a white actor.
"Hey. Is that a small fire that i could stomp out easily over there? Let me throw a gallon of gasoline on it." - Vlad
Michael Jai White you have a problem with a white guy beating up Bruce Lee , but you said that you could beat up The Dragon in a fight.
Seems to me you contradicted yourself and I am a African American saying it
I am not taking sides on this because of the race card or do I ever intend to .
It is what it is
He said because of the size difference which is understandable when you see how big Micheal is and his training the size would be a big issue I still think Bruce would win in a points match but a street fight mike has the edge
@@erich4812 More disturbing is that it had to be a real life POC top notch athlete. The real question is why is Hollywood still producing this kind of propaganda?
I mean to be fair i am sure he could. The skill difference maybe favors bruce but nor by much. While the size, reach and strength difference favors michael by alot. There is a reason sports fighters stick to their weight divisions
@@TheCrimsonRevenger Actually MJW also has a ton of skill in MMA lol. So coupled with his other attributes, I'd bet on MJW. His problem is not only that Cliff was white & beat Bruce Lee, it was mainly that it seemed as if Cliff won when we do not know how much training he had, his style, or his experience as opposed to the iconic Bruce Lee. It was unbelievable without context, & QT was selling it to make his lead guy appear more powerful. The image of a white aging chain-smoking stunt double kicking the ass of the much more agile and prime Bruce Lee, or the big black muscle that was Jim Brown is bullshit at its core. But it played to the audience of people that went to go see it, the types of people that enjoy odes to the 70s, where unlikely events like these were possible.
@@ihateintroductions5808 Honestly, I think Lee's skill wouldn't hold up to most modern MMA fighters in his weight class but i was trying to be generous in my assessment. lol
Honestly I'd give Michael odds even if they were in the same weight class. But I was trying not to piss off the Brucies.
As for the rest...i mean, white guys can beat non-white people, yanno? That doesn't make it racist. Was the storyteller trying to boost up his main character? Well...yeah. That's what storytellers do. But supposedly the guy who this character was based on claims that this actually happened. Or something similar, i guess.
I'm not saying I believe that claim, but pretty much every movie Hollywood ever claimed to be "based on a true story" is actually based on a ton of anecdotal claims with little to no supporting objective facts. Just like this was.
So this was just Hollywood doing what Hollywood does when Hollywood isn't otherwise preoccupied on Epstein Island. Or whatever replaced it.
Quentin is trying to push the narrative that Bruce didn’t respect American stunt men but it was probably the other way around. Bruce lee was damn near the only Asian in Hollywood in the 60s and was not as accepted/respected as he would be today
Same feeling
Agreed
Uh huh
Well said 😀👍
The second he mentioned "white supremacy" I was done. C'mon man....get a life.
exactly just pure racist bs..
Should have finished the video. I was like "here we go" but by the end i got what he was saying and he also stated, very directly, that Tarantino is not racist at all, i know the guy and know he is not racist. hear people out to the end just like you would want people to finish listening to what you put out in full context. Peace.
Ving Rhymes getting bent over. Q.T. is a W.S. in Drag Lol.
I’ve always said that!!
Marcus Pain can you prove that Tarantino is a racist?
@@emilio2647 his work shows for it
I always said why not Bruce?? It's little suttle shit. Not enough to be racist, but shit to make you 🤔🤔
Bruce Lee used nunchucks which is a Filipino weapon to beat up racist dojo in Japan. Bruce is a community figure.
But Bruce Lee did that because they were depicted as lower level humans in that movie..The same movie you talking about him whooping on Japanese the Japanese also wanted him to walk like a dog into a park because he was Chinese go figure huh
But Vlad why did You still spend the whole clip defending the exploitation that this guy just said was the one thing bothering him about it
I was a little offended too when i Saw that scene. But it was just a movie. We all know who Lee was and what he was able to do. He is still the greatest. 🙏🏻
This guy really blamed white supremacy for Bruce Lee getting beat up in a movie. Unbelievable.
Reminds me of how me and my friends would always get upset when we’d see lateef crowder in a major movie and he ALWAYS loses. The white supremacy idea is that we are the best because it’s us. When martial artist have been trading ideas and techniques for years. It’s not the move, it’s the one using it
Well said. The whole "Never Back Down" era. All the preppy school White kids with plot armor.
Lateef Crowder is such a bridge to Traditional African Martial art and other physical subculture arts in movent, including but not limited to " Tricking". He's humanitarian! Extremely professional and humble. He has done So much !!!! So shout out to you for mentioning his name!
Martial Artists do not trade ideas. fake ones do. Most do not even know what 'martial arts' mean NooneinHoolllywodd knows it.if they did they would not put it in movies. If they did they would turnout Hollywood
@@gi7685 that is very true but at the same time, most people don’t watch action movies for the acting
The whole movie was straight up bullshit Bruce was in heaven laughing at at Garbage 🗑 😂 🤣
Yeah …not much garbage wins Oscars and shit …go sit your ass down somewhere
Oh, and you never knew Bruce lee either…just like these other clowns that are so butt hurt over someone they never knew…Bruce lee wouldn’t even fuck with you anyway…I’m mean for what…shameful
I love QT, but he was 100% wrong here. He made Bruce Lee look like a fool when there was no reason for it. It would have made Brad Pitt's character look even more bad-ass if Bruce Lee wasn't shown as a fool.
And there is no evidence Bruce Lee was a pompous ass. History shows he was confident but also insightful and realistic.
@@mybluebreeze1995 so what you're saying is Bruce Lee wasn't as tough as everyone says. I agree.
@@mybluebreeze1995 😂😂
Ummm but all he showed was Bruce almost losing a fight. You can’t exactly call that inaccurate or depicting him as a fool. I hate to break it to you, but that’s VERY possible. Especially to a bigger guy. A martial arts actor is not a real professional fighter, literally anyone can beat him. Bruce’s movies are even more inaccurate than quentin’s because it has caused some fans to believe he was an unstoppable killing machine in real life who strikes vital points and kicks with the force of 1000lbs and all that wild rubbish. Get over yourself, face the fact that he wasn’t unbeatable and was never a fighter. Quentin didn’t even make him lose in the scene, and you’re getting emotional 😭.
@@MetalizedButt Emotional? Lol. Anyway, the fight is not even what I'm talking about. It was how he spoke and carried himself. And Bruce Lee never said he would beat Muhammad Ali. He idolized him and even said Ali would kill him in a fight.
@@kmchipower Watch Tarantino on JRE, he’s read in someone’s biography(can’t remember who) that Bruce was often rough and arrogant towards western stuntmen. That’s probably the inspiration where this scene came from. We don’t even know Bruce personally, so we can’t rule out anybody’s opinion and story about him. Could be true, could be false, it’s all anecdotes. I’m glad you brought up the Ali quote, because there’s no way in hell he would beat Ali. He understood the importance of size difference, unlike many of his fanboys thinking he could beat any man on the planet with mythical power. I’m a huge Bruce fan by the way, I’m just in touch with reality - I know he’s not a professional fighter and acknowledge that he wouldn’t stand a chance against them.
Thought he was going to say something intelligent, instead he resorted to claiming racism.
The film is literally called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood lol
originally Bruce was supposed to be beaten near death in the film during that fight however due to Brad Pitt being close friends to Bruce's son he pushed against it.
That doesn’t sound true
Bruce Lee's son has been dead for at least a decade
@@lintottish so you are saying is someone you were friends with died you all of a sudden wouldn't care about them🤔 Brad Pitt was born in 1963 while Brandon Lee in 1965. Jada still cries over Pac who died in 96 while Brandon died in 93. Doesn't matter how much time passes people don't stop caring about their friends.
@@tyrant_tarantula look it up if you don't believe it.
Funny thing is whenever someone is a legend, their biopic always flop cause no actor is able to replicate them.
I remember being so uncomfortable watching Inglorious Basterds during 2 scenes
One where the Nazis say that Americans win the Olympics because of "(n-word with a hard r) sweat"
And the other where theyre playing Charades in a bar and one guy says hes chained to a ship in the middle of the ocean and the other guy says he must be an "American (n-word with the hard r)"
In any movie no word is said by accident
Every word has to be written, approved, rehearsed and recorded dozens of times
Nothing is said by accident
Quentin loves the n-word with a hard r its so obvious
Dam
You dont like racisim in a nazi movie ? Do you hear yourself bro
@@Danny0213
Nazis didnt say the N word, goofy
In German the word for Black person is "Schwarzer"
Plus Nazis didnt really care about Africans, there were no Black people in Europe at the time
They hated the Jews, Muslims and the Slavs, goofy
@DEFORMED PRETTY BOY
Goofy asses think they can talk about history 😂
Moors are not Black people 1st of all, they are North African people, they resemble Jews and Arabs
2nd of all Black people started coming to England in the 50s, 60s and 70s from the Caribbean, go look at videos of London in 1969 and tell me how many Black people you see
Goofy asses 😂
Nazis didnt care about Mexicans either
Their racism was a German racism against Jews, Muslims and Slavs
Not an American racism against Hispanic and Black people
@DEFORMED PRETTY BOY
Africans are new to Europe
They came after WW2 because of the fall of European empires destroyed in the war
Africans are so new to Europe in fact that during Hitlers time Africans were kept in Human Zoos for people to come watch
They were also kept in European circus freak shows because most Europeans had never seen a person with Black skin before
So I repeat, Black people were not on Nazis radar, they werent using the N word
The N word is there because Quentin Tarantino loves using it
Tarantino Didn't Really Care, HE Is The ARROGANT KIND OF GUY. Over Sixty Years, EveryOne Still Wants To Be Like Bruce Lee!
MJW is totally on point with this. I like Tarantino and I even enjoyed the scene as entertainment, but he's totally on point about the implications of it.
Cliff was defending Ali in the scene man come on. The point is that no bruce you can't beat ali.
@@TAVV00S yeah this is true. I feel like MJW's point though is that there are dozens of actors from that time with bad attitudes to stunt men etc. (although not nearly as iconic today as Lee I guess) and it just left a bad taste that Tarantino picked Lee and it would have felt very crappy if he'd picked Jim Brown.
I just feel like he summed up the feeling totally here: it was an entertaining scene very well done by an auteur director but it had a bit of a weird energy to it. Like nobody should be saying he can't do that or anything and he's not saying he's offended as such... Just that it's an odd vibe I guess.
Just seems like a very appropriate response to me
@@TAVV00S although yes you're right about that he is defending Ali but there's no hard evidence that Bruce actually said he could beat Ali and certainly all the on-record times he talked about him he was super respectful 🤷 I mean, he was also selling an image of himself and I'm sure when people were goading him etc. he may have said he'd have a chance or whatever but Bruce himself also talked about trying to keep his ego in check and fighting that kind of urge. As I say, personally I found it entertaining and well written and acted but of all the figures from the time to decide to take down in cinema it seemed like an odd choice I guess.
yup. it's a tired cliche that i'm sure tarantino, being the movie buff he is, must've been aware of.
but, i figure..since the entire movie was like an alternate take on what actually happened..and the brad pitt's character is fictional, he prolly just thought it would be okay..at least not cause as much fuss as it did.
i mean..didn't he like partly pay a huge homage to Bruce Lee and his influences in martial arts cinema with Kill Bill..? that yellow-black striped jacket Uma was wearing in the final fight of volume 1..that's a Game of Death Bruce Lee homage right there.
@@KCwalksabout Bruce Lee literally said that Ali would destroy him. Quentin just straight up destroyed Bruce Lee's character. Bruce Lee would never and has never said that he could beat Ali in a fight.
Studying Bruce's work tells one the scene is not to be taken seriously as with much of Quentin's work . Pure entertainment , no ego allowed .
Michael nailed the motives... that's exactly what it is
Bullshit
Tarantino's Django is probably the best pro black cow boy movie ever made. Do your research kiddo and learn to think for yourself.
@@francoisona Two things can be true at once and your patronizing tone is fuckin gross. Django is great, AND Quentin Tarantino lied and tried to uplift the stereotype of the white American cowboy badass, at the expense of the memory and reputation of a beloved, Asian martial arts icon. People are complex and one doesn't negate the other or make the wrong, right.
Fascinating how you can do racist things and not be racist. Interesting.
Bruce Lee talk/worship is top tier gayness
Bruce Lee is a LEGEND! Deal with it Tarantino.
Bruce Lee does not have a fight record. That’s just facts. Bruce Lee is so iconic that people really thought he was invincible. The reality is, he wasn’t. He was an actor. He of course was going to eventually kick every bad guy in each movie’s ass.
It’s satire and comedy at the end of the day.
Martial arts is real. It’s not comedy
Dude...Bruce Lee trained WORLD CHAMPIONS in Martial Art. Karate world champions. Gene Labelle said Bruce was the best Martial Artist during his time.
Chuck Norris nor Bob Wall could touch Bruce.
@@khairt1731 I’m not saying the man did not know martial arts. What I’m saying is people think Bruce was invincible and could not be beaten. The only way to tell if someone cannot or can be beaten is if that person actually has fights.
Bruce Lee or Lee Jun Fan was an incredible martial artist FIRST, and an actor second. The most respected martial artists of his era respected him and learned from him. People who think of him as only an actor are educated enough to know that he was the father of mixed martial arts in America....but actually reading is so "old school", right?
@@MyDave22 Pro fighters get leveled in streetfights all the time. Sport fighting is not streetfighting. Bruce Lee tested his combat in actual street fights... That's why you don't have his fight record.
I will say this, I'm surprised more Asians do not dominate MMA.
Most of them can't fight tbh
it's because you are stuck in the past.
@@thestrangemanreturns lol
Bruce lee wouldn’t have fought in it either. He said it’s not real fighting because they ban throat shots and groin shots. In a street fight you’re doing whatever to make it home. Jeet Kune do, which was Bruce Lee’s martial art system that fathered MMA, had a lot of groin shots and throat shots.
Bottom line, a lot of elite martial artists don’t compete in mma
I guess it's culturally, Asian philosophy "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting"
Micheal Is Such a Legend and a class act. Not getting offended on N word but still pointing out the ridiculousness of tarnishing a legend.
Just facts.
Quentin stole a lot of movies in his life.
Bruce Lee was the first Chinese to make it big in Hollywood.
Quentin is pathetic.
Bruce is a legend.
But people should not be upset for a scene in a movie.
Cant believe black dynamite wasnt a bigger hit. Jai white can do comedy well. Really funny. Would like to see more of that
Dude that movie was so underrated. All the jokes landed in my opinion. As far as spoof movies go, Black Dynamite was top notch
Michael's spot on. Tarantino likes to be a deconstructionist with historical figures. Iconoclasm of any kind towards an icon like Bruce Lee is fked up.
I love mjw's insight into EVERYTHING....
Notice he didn't use the guy from Remo Williams. It would have ended quite differently. 😂
ITS A MOVIE!!!!... If a movie bothers you, DONT WATCH!.....Its crazy how sensitive this world is today...Anyone, even Bruce Lee (RIP) can get beat..The right person, right time, right situation..Dollar late and a day short...Its life...
Yup...hit on the head mate.
That’[s some dumb remark. What if you’re already there? Dumb
You’re a MJW hater.
Taratino loves controversy..that's why he constantly does it...I personally loves his movies..mostly..
Obviously not a black guy..
You call it controversy, I call it doing whatever the fuck he wants and not givin 2 shits
You guys are hilarious...and way to serious..🤣🤣🤣🤣
I took that whole movie to be a big "what if" fairytale, to fill the void of QT's childhood movie experience (that he want us to see acknowledge).
To Mike's point, I think Quentin might have been working off that insecurity. Throughout most of the 70's, 80's and 90's the running trope was "don't fuck with Black guys and Asian guys" (until UFC got on the map). So yeah, being a poor awkward White kid (hence, seeing White guys who were badasses that he looked up to) he got to watch all his favorite White action stars have compete with newer action stars and did want them to get lost. I'll admit, I looked up Hal Needham, and Richard Dalton (already knew about Burt Reynolds)....which I think was the point.
Throughout pop culture there has been that insecurity. POC come with unique creativity, and then White audiences feel salty about having to make room in their minds for other types of representation, and try to find the White equivalent in those genres so they can flock to them instead.
Chuck Norris was dope, but wasn't as flashy, which is what people wanted to see. All them ninja and kung fu movies took the stage, although Cynthia Rothrock and all of them were fucking dope.
What action stars did whites compete against? Bruce lee? Yes there were blaxploitation action stars but they weren't on the level of white ones at all. Later there was Jackie chan and jet li, bruce Lee's son in the crow and then Wesley Snipes, then Michael Jai white to some degree but he's not on the level of Snipes,seagall, van Damme, Stallone, Arnold, etc
Even the main character of Kung Fu the series was actually white. Wanting to see white people rap or be good boxers is a different thing. Elvis was heavily influenced by blk musicians and yes white ppl prefer watching someone who looks like then perform something even if it's a rip off of some blk persons work
That running trope was simply steeped in racism and segregation. Fear of the unknown.
The mind is the most dangerous tool of aggression/violence.
Quentin Tarantino gives me bad vibes. He always has. I can't imagine spending 20 minutes with him. I imagine I'd be punching his face in for 15. He's a 0 on the charisma scale.
You're doing way too much for something to be your opinion yet you're trying to speak on behalf of Quentin like you know him personally relax. You are probably most likely a regular person because I guarantee youu wouldn't catch Tarantino on this thread because he understands it's someone else perspective on the main video we all came for.
Of course it was a fairytale, the movie is called " Once Upon a time in Hollywood." That's how most fairytale s start off.