The guy who spearheaded the removal of Apu, by making a movie about it, is an Indian. And I knew a guy, a friend of a friend, and an Indian gentleman, who felt Apu was offensive when I knew him back in the late 90's. So, there are some. I assume there are more. Your point is taken though. I would guess there are more people who aren't offended by Apu, across all cultures, than there are who take offense.
Comedian Hari Kondabolu is of Indian descent and was the one who first planted the seed of this. It just shows that ethnic groups are not monoliths. People are individuals at the end of the day and you just simply can’t please everybody. What it is is these broadcasters and advertising sponsors and even the creative people themselves who are complete bean counters and are afraid to alienate even one single viewer.
Yup, as a jew I feel you, I hate when people get offended on other people's behalf. I laugh at jew jokes from comedians and when they make fun of Mort on Family guy. It's a joke. But no, Karen gets offended because she thinks I "should" be offended.
Felt the same way about the sports teams named after Native people (am native). Redskins was probably not a great name, but keep the symbol, change it to the Warriors, which we absolutely were. Or forget it all. We fought like tough SOB’s, got fucked over and sports team names were never a priority.
The amount of smoking was insane decades ago. Some ballplayers actually relaxed with a cigarette in the dugout waiting for their turn at bat! And late night talk show hosts had ash trays on their desks and would smoke while interviewing guests - who often smoked as well.
Craig Corson Lol, I’m friends with several doctors, and plenty of them do a lot more than just smoke...they can be pretty fun to party with, but pretty hardcore! We all do things that are enjoyable in the moment, but that we know aren’t good for us in the long run - whether it’s eating a box of donuts, smoking a cigarette, or doing a line of coke. Humans are pretty bad at choosing the future over the present, and knowing the negative effects of our actions doesn’t change that.
I asked a good friend from India if he thought the Apu character on The Simpsons was offensive. He laughed and said one of his favorite Simpsons scenes was when Apu gasped "oh my god" and his father asked "which one?" My favorite was when Apu stood up at a Springfield City Council meeting and said "I was shot 27 times last year and I almost had to miss a day of work."
Depends on what category of cringe you mean. There's type 1 cringe: Oh god that was just so horribly lame....HOW did that ever entertain us? and type 2 cringe: OMG THAT'S RACIST SEXIST TRANSPHOBIC etc etc.... It is possible I'll suffer from type 1 cringe, but never type 2, because fuck your feelings.
Something you realize when you get older is that having understanding and sensitivity for other people and their way of life isn't a sign of weakness. When you're young it's all cool to be edgy and think "You can be offended all you fucking want, this is just reality and you can get the fuck over it!" You eventually come to learn your views were just mean-spirited and not wanting to admit that was making you hyper defensive. At some point you reach peak shitlord, where your defensiveness has evolved into a desire to piss off the types of people who originally called you out for using problematic language or acting inappropriately. Most people end up moving past that toxic behavior in their 30s.
As a genXer, I have 6 millennials under my employ. They are MUCH different than I, but they’re a good bunch and get their jobs done right (even if they don’t want to work more than 30 hours a week).
@@wiggy8912 If you really think it's bad and lazy to want a 30-hour work week, that's sad. And you need to watch this: ruclips.net/video/p7YZUWEu-x0/видео.html
Heck, thinking about it I think Apu is more of a stereotype of convenience store clerks than he is of Indian people, as in most of the jokes involving him were about his job rather than his race if I remember right...
Correct, even down to the 2.1 kids in the Simpson family. I always thought that Apu was one of the most sensitive portrayal of a stereotype (racial or otherwise) in the show. He's a hard working, diligent manager of a successful business. He's a loving father and husband who has overcome past mistakes to redeem himself. He's proud of his culture and religion and refuses to compromise them to appease other people. I see no other issue other than "he's voiced by a white guy" and, well... that's called acting.
Whoops, guess we just need to scrap the entire show now since stereotypes are no longer allowed to exist or ever be portrayed in media ever again, obviously.
I won't be surprised if pedophilia will be tolerated in the future. This generation will be judged for withholding sex from children, and demonizing adults who were born with a tendency to be attracted to young boys and girls.
@Johan Vivier or are pandered too by the people in charge of the Democrat party and corporations, the term 'Useful idiots' has never been more apt tbh.
I can't remember who said it, but there was this little saying.. "If you think everyone is an asshole, maybe it's you who are the asshole." People who think everything is problematic are likely the problematic ones themselves.
I think this is Maher's best monologue ever. I'm a reluctant fan who thinks sourcing political ideology from comedy programs is problematic. However, our current madness is really making him shine.
And yet here he is over a year later, and he’s commenting on what we should do about the economy, and he didn’t even know the stock market crashed in 2020. How do you not know about the stock market crash when you write jokes about current events?
@@tcorourke2007 typically I would blame his obliviousness on him not knowing what he is talking about. If he didn’t know about the stock market crash, he doesn’t know why the current administration is doing what they are doing. What else is he missing with his other commentary. When someone gets something as wrong as he did, you should stop listening to him talk about politics. Dick jokes only for him. 😆
I am Indian and almost 20% of India's population which is around a whooping 200 million grew up watching Simpsons and although Appu was offensive but we loved it.We understood that American comedy is generally offensive,it targets everyone and not just Indians.It's ok....Offense is an essence of comedy.As an Indian I feel offended by an Indian stereotype but at the same time I enjoy a white guy,black,Latino,russian etc stereotypes put into a joke.I have so many relatives and friends who are American citizens,No body really cared about or got offended over Simpsons.Everyone understands that political correctness should stay out of comedy.
what concerns me more is I bet that barely any indian cares enough about Apu to be offended and is a very small minority of indians and mostly "woke" people who are offended in their place. This happened before in Mexico with the character of speedy gonzalez that was took out of TV because it was offensive but not a single Mexican was offended and we even demanded that he should return.
To be fair the majority of people that are offended by Apu are White people. Of which they are offended "for the sake of" the people that BELIEVE should be offended. Because no one has their own voice. I suggest you look into the term Baizuo as it pretty much sums up this. As far as me? I'm Irish and i got a hell of a good laugh at groundskeeper Willy. Hell i still hear "Waving the white flag" jokes about french people and i'm part french. You are 100% correct. One should keep PC out of Comedy. Because comedy at its core is meant to break down things that are hard for use to deal with. And in a era that is perpetually offended we need comedy more than anything.
I know you're kidding, but he's actually based on an old character Dave Thomas from SCTV did in the 80s. He was a Scottish cook named Angus Crock. My sister and I used to love SCTV. It's super funny, you should look it up! I learned this from the source: Dan Castellaneta who does Willie's voice.
I don't always agree with Bill Maher, but every once in a while he brings forth deep, brilliant philosophical concepts in a humorous way. This is one of those times.
He also got a doctorate, moved to America to get a better life, loves his wife dearly, is personal friends with Paul Mccartney, and likes making wicker furniture in his free time and discussing where to put it.
Ya know, George Carlin used to tell the audience that he was talking about them, while insulting them and they still used to cheer him on for it. No doubt each one of them was thinking "He's not talking about ME, but about the other toss-pots in the audience!"
Truly a master at his craft. Been enjoying your show for years. I watched Politically Incorrect growing up on ABC. Enjoyed this thoroughly! Thanks Bill.
@@sirbattlecat True. I cannot stand it anymore they are literaly mentally ill they want to attack everything like literaly you cannot make a joke they demmed milk as sexist
@@matijalukovic727 the way I see it they're a natural consequence of a generation of parents who never said no and set boundaries, and taught them the world can be a harsh place but you can deal with it if you choose not to let it bother you.
I know. He is a hero to the far left for legalizing gay marriage and crucified by the far left for the same. In reality he tried like hell to avoid having to take a stand on the issue at all. He even said in his speech legalizing it something to the effect of " We changed the laws so that same sex couples had all the same rights as straight couples, I thought that would be enough..." He was literally just trying to get everyone to shut up so he could get back to work on ending war in the middle east, getting healthcare to the poor, and bailing the country out of its real estate gambling debts. The poor man couldn't win for losing on that issue and it is always listed as one of his major accomplishments whether he wanted to accomplish it or not.
@@nietzchepreacher9477 Can you blame them? The American "far left" is the global centrist or at most, center-left. They're so conservative that having a centrist ideology gets you labelled as a socialist.
I like the first part but when he got to the clothes it bothered me. Every generations choice of clothing is not "we think this looks cool" it is "I do not want to look like the people directly before me". I also was in highschool and college in the 80's and not everyone dressed like that. Some did but many did not. It is just how it was presented 40 years later because as time goes by fewer things stick.
This whole Apu situation reminds me of the furor over Speedy Gonzales. It wasn't even Mexicans complaining, it was uptight white people getting offended on behalf of Mexicans, and they stopped showing his cartoons. And Mexicans were like, "Hey, don't speak for us! We love Speedy!", and his cartoons were brought back.
awelcruiz What it was was entertainment companies and TV networks trying to self-police itself to please its advertisers and potential viewers it needs for ratings, especially in an age now where we have hundreds of cable channels, as well as streaming services like Hulu and especially Netflix to compete with now. If political correctness wasn't something that was seen as good business, it simply wouldn't be practiced.
Exactly, being an Indian myself, I can't think of any reason as to how anyone would find Apu's character racist. You know how awkward it feels when you see someone talk while forcing themselves to be as politically correct as possible, trying to sidestep even the mildest of stereotyping. Racism is in the heart of an individual, not in their words. BTW, what is this I'm hearing about FRIENDS? Is someone bitching about that fine show too?
It's true. Back in the day, we Indians loved Apu. He was the first Indian character on TV. And let's be real, if you were Indian in America, and you were not a doctor, you probably ran a convenience store.
Shellina Musa and Just for those thinking shellina is being racist, it has to do with how hospitals tended to hire doctors from overseas in places like India over to work for lesser wages then the American trained doctors. The only issue for the Indians and other doctors was that medical school is FUCKING expensive so they tended to be unable to afford American degrees and get paid better right off the bat.
Just recently started watching Maher And I can’t believe I’ve gone this long. I actually sit for hours and binge watch all of his stuff even from years ago. Love it brilliant man
This puts me in mind of the Star Trek episode where McCoy goes back in time and is horrified that in 20th century medicine, "They cut and sew people like garments!" People have always thought that we had things figured out, only to be horrified a little while later and this has been going on for thousands of years. We don't know shit but we LOVE to be self-righteous.
The "We are all Apu" campaign must begin. Anyone ever consider the character actually rounded the sharp edges of bigotry? Apu is very likable and may even humanize Indians and their culture for those that may have never even met anyone from India.
THIS!!! I am 100% sure Apu made some racists change their mind. If he only changed ONE racist's mind then the character is worth existing. "Cultural appropriation" when I went in school we were suppose to embrace different cultures, now we arent allowed to do that lmao "cultural appropriation" will only seperate people
Apu started out as a representation of the American Dream ... an immigrant who came here, found a job, got a family, and his kids would eventually grow up better off for his efforts.
@@TheOneLichemperor we Mexicans accepted the bee man even if some times it didn't make sense with the dub then why people care so much about the apu stereotype
Apu started out as a representation of the American Dream ... an immigrant who came here, found a job, got a family, and his kids would eventually grow up better off for his efforts.
@@solosulla9648 wow, never knew that song was written before the late 1800s, the age of consent for the UK has been 16 since 1885, there have been clarifications in the law for other offences that relate to consent but not the age, at least in England and Wales, Scotland had two ages of consent for female (16) and male (14), the only place in the UK that had its consent laws at 17 (at that time) was Northern Ireland but the Beatles were based in England.
The problem is context. People today have to appreciation for or understanding of context. They don't consider the situation things happened in or the environment and standards surrounding it. Instead they all react like dogs trained to respond to a command. They hear certain trigger-words or phrases, and they just freak out and start barking. They don't consider the situation, the environment, or even why they're barking or what it means; they simply hear/see the trigger-words and immediately flip out. The way they've been trained to react.
This. The best example of this is, if you talked to someone like 50 years ago there's a solid chance they'd call a black person "colored", maybe even call them a negro. That could come out of the mouth of a racist or a civil rights activist, that was just the word. If you don't get the context, you'll assume it's racist. Most people can grasp that, but when it comes to what kinds of jokes are ok, and what those jokes communicate, they're much less comfortable. And then of course, we just learn what we shouldn't do anymore. Taken to the extreme, there's a reason these whiners are the same ones who want Thomas Jefferson erased from public monuments and adoration because he owned slaves. Like every fuckin rich white guy of his age. His other contributions are irrelevant, dude owned slaves.
Ive been using the term 'barking' to describe the noises people make for years. 'NPC' is a new term for me, though. I always just used to use 'hominid' to distinguish them from genuine humans.
There are times I dislike what he says with a passion but there are times like this I stand and applaud. Either way I’ve been watching him since before HBO, truth hurts and he don’t play. He nails everything and everyone for stupidity and being downright wrong
It was an old bay area slang term that has since been misappropriated by hipster douchebags. "Nah-nah, it's 1990, y'all hoes better get woke to these muthafuckin old schools" - Richie Rich (415)
@@charley8888 and Moore was only 25 when he tryed flirting with 16 and 17 year old girls. calling moore a pedophil is basicly calling all cultures on earth till 50 years ago pedophile. in most cultures, at most times, girls married beetween 14 nd 16.
Their is no song by the Beatles called 17. Maybe you’re referring to I saw her standing there which was written in 1963 when the Beatles were mostly in their early 20s.
Yes, this generation is overly judgmental, but how else are we supposed to evolve if the new generation don't challenge what was once tolerated by the old generation.
I think each generation should challenge the previous, but not by being an angry-mob. Unless someone has actually broken the law, a little bit of forgiveness wouldn't hurt.
For sure it is stupid to wag your finger at "Friends"... Just acknowledge those were the times and move on to your shitty CW drama... I have a DVD copy of the animated Jonny Quest series from the 60's... it is so wrong sometimes but it makes me lol because the creators actually try to promote multi-culturalism yet their 60's naivety and sometimes straight up innocence is there behind the cultural fails.
I have noticed something that saddens me. 3 of my favorite Christmas movies. Christmas Vacation, Home Alone, and Scrooged. That world no longer exists. Standby me , The Sandlot, Fast Times At Ridgemont High. All 3 of these take place I think 50’s 60’s 80’’s. A time when children ran free. In or out I’m not air conditioning the entire neighborhood. We would just go and return for food and drink and sleep. Just to do all over again the next day. Summertime was ripe with adventure. Smoking my first cigarette. Kissing my first girl. I can remember clesning up after a cook out and there were 4 skunked Pabst blue ribbons. I ran them to the creek put them in and covered them with a rock. Later that day me and my friends smoked lucky strikes and drank those skunked beers on a warm summer afternoon. I was 13 at the time. My point is this. That world doesn’t exist anymore. Kids have play dates monitored by helicopter parents. Or they are just staining at their phones or playing video games. There is no more real life adventure for this generation. The story I told was one day of a summer vacation. And I have dozens of different stories like that from my summers as a young man in the 80’s. Ferris said it best. Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and take a look around once in a while it’ll pass you by. What stories are these kids gonna have? Really what are they gonna say. And will it beat a summer day smokin and drinking looking at a playboy skipping rocks. And chillin with my friends. And it’s all true every word. I can still taste that skunked Pabst blue ribbon. I reflect on that memory often in the summer when it’s really hot no breeze and high humidity. It’s funny how the mind works. And it’s funny that some random day from my childhood summer vacation would be burned to to my brain so vividly all these years later. Enjoy your time while you can because one day your gonna wake up and your gonna have back pain, bags under your eyes, a little chub where your 6 pack used to be and grey hair if your lucky to have any at all. And what will your memories be of? Something good I hope.
Born in the 70’s grew up in 80’s / 90’s and wouldn’t change those experiences for the world!!! It WAS A GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE! It’s been shit since the 2000’s
I did every single thing you mention above in the 80s and 90s all while watching a brand new industry grow and change through two seperate golden ages.
Gallows and surreal comedy are things we used to excel at. Not any more though, not since any decent comedy is judged as "inappropriate" and "problematic". I'm not talking about racist comedy like Bernard Manning or even low comedy like the Carry Ons. I'm talking the works of Milligan/ Sellers, Cook, Feldman, Cleese etc. There's a *lot* of good postwar comedy now judged offensive. We're going back to the days when a comedy just meant anything with a happy ending.
These are the moments you know 3 things 1. Bill Maher's audience isn't as diverse as it thinks it is 2. Bill Maher does not use applause prompts 3. Bill Maher gives zero fucks
He says married fans of his would come up to him back then and tell him that song was used in their wedding. And Born In The USA is a pro American song!!!
Phil Gallagher it’s still 16 (for heterosexuals) subject to exceptions where there is a potential for abuse of power, like teacher/student, in which case it’s 18.
Yes, I know it is STILL 16, I'm English, and capable of using the past tense to describe something that happened in the past, regardless of the current circumstances. So yes, the age of consent in the UK is 16 AND when The Beatles recorded this song it WAS 16. It's just simple grammar. Try it before jumping on somebody. Particularly if your comment is just an INCORRECT and IRRELEVANT one followed by "lol". It just shows up your own ignorance.
The Simpsons needs a new character to stereotype millenials. Neon dyed hair, lots of piercings, living with parents after getting a sociology/ethnic studies degree, and whines ad nauseam about the patriarchy.
You want to kill th slaughterhouses? Easy, teach people to properly hunt, and return our right to live off the land. *Boom* no more animal cruel meat. Its also better for your health, and much tastier. Then there's all the exercise you get, and learning to be patient. Why are european ways better again?
The Beatles also sang, "I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. You better run for your life if you can, little girl. Hide your head in the sand, little girl. Catch you with another man, that's the end, little girl." John was pretty messed up.
Vito Corleone Whilst in University, some white student berated my friend, a white student for wearing kente cloth on the grounds of African cultural appropriation, despite him being South African. Who was treating who like crap? I get what you're saying, and yes, we should call out assholes when we see them, but if everything is going to be taken as an offense to races (Halloween costumes, old cartoons and TV shows), maybe we should pull the plug on entertainment.
We're probably on the same page about a lot of this, but I'm not arguing that you did say that, merely pointing out that you were implying I thought it was okay to let people be racist assholes. Would this student have not said anything if he'd *known* the student was South African? Where is the line for this individual? The reason I specifically mentioned Africa is because the other student specifically mentioned him not being of African descent, to point out his attempt to hide his bias behind a culture wall.
Perhaps we both should have expanded our initial statements. Think of my stance in the context of the following: "_______ culture should stay with _______ people." The student, instead of attempting a back-and-forth discourse about the young man's fashion choices, attempted to humiliate him. These, in particular, are the types of people I'm calling out in reference to "my little story". Without a doubt, there are times when a call-out is necessary - even more than a call-out, infact - but cherry picking every aspect of another culture is a sort of cultural segregation. The road to hell and all that. Where did I say that it was universal?
See, you're forgetting the fact that white people are the saviors of the world and they need to protect the delicate little feelings of their pet minorities. After all, who better to tell us what hurts our feelings than a 20 something with tons money to throw away on a college education that won't get them a job.
I think that only people who actually grew up with these, have any validity in saying anything. Hearing some 25 year old, or younger, offended by something from those times? Uhhh who cares what they think? Lol
@@psychedelicfright85 as an 18 year old, I am disgusted by my generation on a daily basis and even though I didn't see any of the 20th century, somehow in my mind I did. I almost exclusively listen to pre 90s music, mainly watch old shows and my favourite comedy groups are Monty Python and Blackadder. I'm not saying I should be accepted into the older generations, just that I think I relate to them more
Anthony Iuculano How could he be 100% correct on MOST of this? I mean, how much of this was wrong? 10%, 20% maybe 35%? So by your math he is 100% right on most of this and 30% wrong on some of it? SMH!
If you dislike his politics, then don’t take his fake news rants seriously either I don't think anyone was seriously offended or believes anyone else was actually offended. He read some bs article in the times or some other rag, & since it reinforced his prejudice against Millennials, he decided to rant about it on his show, exasperating a non-issue, like he always does. Hes a lazy hack & it’s getting worse & worse
I get what ‘woke’ means, and I guess I appreciate the efforts to be a bit more conscious of how we portray people who fall outside of being equally represented... That said, when I was in Portland, I had a pleasant conversation with my Uber driver who told me at the end that she appreciated me not bringing up her ethnicity as she had people falling all over themselves to show how cool they were with her being African. They don’t talk to her like she’s a human being. She’s a prop to make them feel good about how progressive they are.
Doesn't surprise me coming out of Portland. I was living on the East Coast for a few years and the amount of times I watched people trip over themselves so that they acknowledge all the right groups and people, "accept their privilege" and censor themselves so that they aren't viewed as talking over other marginalized groups, was painful. They did it even when they were in a conversation alone with me, just in case I might report them to the "woke" police for daring to speak to me genuinely and have an actual meaningful conversation. It's annoying and means that you spend endless amounts of time talking about nothing and never getting to the substance of a conversation. No wonder nothing ever is actually accomplished. The last thing I want my legislators talking about is what their pronouns are ( I understand they are important, but conversations don't need to start with Hi! I'm Terry and my preferred pronouns are. If someone has pronouns that are different than what they might present as, then announce it, not everyone needs to)...I want them to do their job and legislate appropriately and as quickly and efficiently as possible...we the people should not be paying them to pander cheap platitudes to whatever group they think is in, they are paid to legislate. Do the work.
@@debd7631 UHG political correctness was bad enough before this woke, virtue signalling plague took over the libs!! It took me a while to realize how crazy they had become and that I could no longer view myself as fully liberal by comparison!! For the first time in my adult life I think I'm more center than left.
The Simpsons has so many stereotypes, such as Groundskeeper Willie, the Italian chef, the evangelical Christian etc etc. So why is Apu the problem? I’m English and in the episode when the Simpsons came to England we all had bad teeth. That’s not offensive, it’s a joke!! Too many people need to get over it.
Gautham Pawnday being Indian myself it's not even Indians complaining about it. It's guilty progressive white people commanding what we should feel is offensive or not. This I personally find more offensive than something that is honestly and upfront Racist. Because they are treating us like victims that need to be protected when we are not. And that treatment is prejudicly based around our ethnic background. I grew up watching the Simpsons knowing it's all tongue and cheek and they're were many episodes that turned Apu into more than a 2 dimensional stereotype character.
PixelatedFox4 well said. I think there’s an episode where apu the sea boat captain and others are part of a bowling team called the stereotypes. The Simpsons should not be taken seriously. I can’t believe I have to point that out....
How many people are really angry about the Simpsons? Maybe 5? This only an issue because 1 person writes something and everyone jumps on it as if "the left" can't take a joke. It's tactics and Bill Maher, and you, are falling for them. Total waste of time.
In the late 90's I remember hearing stories of people kicking dogs and lighting cats on fire and the average person was asking why this is even a news story. Guys we have really come a long way as a society. We never give ourselves a pat on our backs. I'm Armenian and Turkey doesn't even allow us to say the genocide occurred. Meanwhile in America we're offended by everything
Andy Doufreisn Where we're you that people were kicking dogs and lighting cats on fire. Was here in the 90's and that would be offensive to anyone with a brain.
Are you kidding me? I clearly remember stories on the news where police only could charge MAYBE a misdemeanor for killing someones pets. Just look at popular films like Secret Window starring Johnny Depp made in 2003-2004. His dog is brutally killed and the local police tell him," your dog got killed? Im not sure if thats even a crime here" Imagine that film today #Imoffended
Yeah exactley and I cringe every time when they talk about white privilige despite the entire fucking eastern european region was sacked and brutalized by more powrful nations like stuck between a vice of russia and turkey from one side and germany and austria from the other for hundreds of years being double penetrated and I dont hear no fucking ukranian or polish person bitching about their genocide and opression while a college student in the west cries about not having a made up kind of bath room.
You know, I used to consider Bill Maher a mad raving leftist, now, I find myself agree with him so much because he’s coming out against political correctness and retroactive censorship.
He's more a liberal than a leftist, since he often critizises the socialist dream of millenials. I don't know what time he's ever not been politcially incorrect though.
the victim mentality and self righteousness is so pathetic. nice that people appear to be noticing it finally, except those that are still stuck being pathetic.
I’m conservative but I like to watch Bill Maher. I really like his New Rules. Unfortunately, Bill is often inconsistent giving a break to those he likes but condemnation to those he dislikes.
You’re comment speaks about normal human behavior and normal differences in opinion. Every talk show host will talk about the stuff that he is passionate about whether positively or negatively. Agreeing with some of his opinions and disagreeing with others is the most normal thing as well. However, nowadays most people think that you have to either agree or disagree completely with one person’s opinion leading us to this polarized society
I once told a woke friend that if the rate of wokening continues, in a couple hundred years people won't see much difference between him and Hitler or Stalin for some common everyday thing we do or support which our decendants will identify as deplorable. He expressed complete disbelief. When Washington and Jefferson are compared to Confederate generals and targeted for statue removal over slavery, Abraham Lincoln's just another white guy and the allyship of whites in the Civil Rights movement is deemed problematic... Hopefully it's just this generation which sees things so monochromatically.
We don't accept the apu character because it was fine 30 years ago, we accept it because it's still fine. There is nothing wrong with imitating an indian and making fun of stereotypes.
The problem unfortunately is that Apu was one of the only characters of South Asian descent that existed on American television for a very long time and when you’re any kind of minority, which South Asians are, only 4% of America, trying to fit in, you tend to become pigeonholed by that kind of lack of representation in media and that lack of a strong presence in society.
What about Grounds Keeper Willy, just because all we Scots are hot tempered, heavy drinking, kilt wearing, bagpipe players does not mean we should be depicted that way on The Simpsons. Scotland demands they cease & desist.
I don't think I have met someone that has been so offended that they told me. These people must b a minority as I hear offensive jokes all the time from friends and family and nobody calls the authorities. Then again I am not on twitter or Facebook. Gas the Simpsons.
Just a random note, thank you for correctly saying the expression. Then often misquoted "I could care less" means you could actually care less, which means you care more than someone who "couldn't care less". All generations seem to get this one wrong.
As an Indian, I find Apu very funny! And I agree with Bill that it doesn't matter what our culture was in past and moreover Simpsons actually makes stereotype of every nationality weather it be french, Spanish or American. People are pissed off because they are snow flakes. I do believe in evolving as society but complaining about Apu is bullshit.
I agree, and as a white dude who grew up on bland food, I want to thank you and all Indians for those amazing curries, but I also must add that vindaloo chicken is my favorite.
complain about the only Indian character while there are hundreds of white 'merican stereotypes in the same show with Homer as their leader... the simpsons told me 'mericans are fat, ignorant and stupid but I don't see anyone complaining about it... take every single character and you'll find they're all stereotypes of some sort, that's what the show is about for the love of Ganesh grow up
Yeah you owe your thanks to the civil rights movement and all the people that were hung and trees water hose and chased by dogs and killed in this country for being other than white, now you can come here and enjoy all the luxuries that are afforded to you on our blood. F****** snowflake
Haha thanks. Didn't expect a nice comment when I woke up and saw I had a response to my Bill Maher comment :P Not sure I've had someone mention my drawings in the comments before.
What Molly Ringwald doesn't consider is what might have happened after the end credits rolled. Everyone could have ended up a better person, due to the influence of this one weekend experience. That, to me, seemed to be the message of the movie. People with differences can still, sometimes, manage to get along.
As an Indian, I assure you that not a single one of us was offended by Apu. Please stop feeling offended on our behalf. Thanks 😊
The guy who spearheaded the removal of Apu, by making a movie about it, is an Indian. And I knew a guy, a friend of a friend, and an Indian gentleman, who felt Apu was offensive when I knew him back in the late 90's. So, there are some. I assume there are more. Your point is taken though. I would guess there are more people who aren't offended by Apu, across all cultures, than there are who take offense.
Comedian Hari Kondabolu is of Indian descent and was the one who first planted the seed of this. It just shows that ethnic groups are not monoliths. People are individuals at the end of the day and you just simply can’t please everybody. What it is is these broadcasters and advertising sponsors and even the creative people themselves who are complete bean counters and are afraid to alienate even one single viewer.
Yup, as a jew I feel you, I hate when people get offended on other people's behalf. I laugh at jew jokes from comedians and when they make fun of Mort on Family guy. It's a joke. But no, Karen gets offended because she thinks I "should" be offended.
Thank you , come again.
Felt the same way about the sports teams named after Native people (am native). Redskins was probably not a great name, but keep the symbol, change it to the Warriors, which we absolutely were. Or forget it all. We fought like tough SOB’s, got fucked over and sports team names were never a priority.
Smoked on airplanes? We used to smoke in HOSPITALS, Bill.
Indeed they did. What puzzles me is that some doctors are STILL smokers.
The amount of smoking was insane decades ago. Some ballplayers actually relaxed with a cigarette in the dugout waiting for their turn at bat! And late night talk show hosts had ash trays on their desks and would smoke while interviewing guests - who often smoked as well.
Craig Corson Lol, I’m friends with several doctors, and plenty of them do a lot more than just smoke...they can be pretty fun to party with, but pretty hardcore! We all do things that are enjoyable in the moment, but that we know aren’t good for us in the long run - whether it’s eating a box of donuts, smoking a cigarette, or doing a line of coke. Humans are pretty bad at choosing the future over the present, and knowing the negative effects of our actions doesn’t change that.
It's what annoys me.
Last time I was at the hospital, I had to go outside to toke my medicine.
People used to smoke EVERYWHERE! No smoking sections in restaurants were usually separated from the smoking section by fake plants.
I saw Apu as a hard working man reaching goals of a normal society and following his dreams
Kevin Baker That’s why liberals hate him. He’s not demanding reparations.
@@Patsy_Parisi they also don't want handouts
He's also a graduate from Cal-Tech. Calcutta Technical Institute.
And in general probobly one of the most normal characters.
@@kevinbaker8102 your comments are exactly why indians take offense to this
I asked a good friend from India if he thought the Apu character on The Simpsons was offensive. He laughed and said one of his favorite Simpsons scenes was when Apu gasped "oh my god" and his father asked "which one?" My favorite was when Apu stood up at a Springfield City Council meeting and said "I was shot 27 times last year and I almost had to miss a day of work."
@Andrew David , After Apu describes how he was shot, chief wiggum in the background says "cry baby!".
Lol. Correct!
lol
No
@Avadh Patel basking in the reflected glory of someone else's success.
"You are tolerating things right now that will make you cringe in 20 years... " damn right, every single one of you
Of us*
Depends on what category of cringe you mean. There's type 1 cringe: Oh god that was just so horribly lame....HOW did that ever entertain us? and type 2 cringe: OMG THAT'S RACIST SEXIST TRANSPHOBIC etc etc....
It is possible I'll suffer from type 1 cringe, but never type 2, because fuck your feelings.
like what?
Something you realize when you get older is that having understanding and sensitivity for other people and their way of life isn't a sign of weakness. When you're young it's all cool to be edgy and think "You can be offended all you fucking want, this is just reality and you can get the fuck over it!" You eventually come to learn your views were just mean-spirited and not wanting to admit that was making you hyper defensive. At some point you reach peak shitlord, where your defensiveness has evolved into a desire to piss off the types of people who originally called you out for using problematic language or acting inappropriately. Most people end up moving past that toxic behavior in their 30s.
No, not everyone are idiot liberals.
A thousand thanks for applauding the "sane millennials". Not all of us are lunatics!!
As a genXer, I have 6 millennials under my employ. They are MUCH different than I, but they’re a good bunch and get their jobs done right (even if they don’t want to work more than 30 hours a week).
@@wiggy8912 If you really think it's bad and lazy to want a 30-hour work week, that's sad. And you need to watch this: ruclips.net/video/p7YZUWEu-x0/видео.html
I think you're all wonderful. I'm 70 Ok, now go and save the world! I know you can.
saying millenials are too broad, the proper words are crazy liberals
The American definition of liberal is fucking weird.
The Simpson's characters are all stereotypes, and unabashedly so. That's the point...My God
people are dumb.
Joseph Marak yes even homer one of the main characters is an american stereotype hes fat addicted to donuts and beer and hes stupid
Heck, thinking about it I think Apu is more of a stereotype of convenience store clerks than he is of Indian people, as in most of the jokes involving him were about his job rather than his race if I remember right...
Its because all the other stereotypes were yellow
Correct, even down to the 2.1 kids in the Simpson family. I always thought that Apu was one of the most sensitive portrayal of a stereotype (racial or otherwise) in the show. He's a hard working, diligent manager of a successful business. He's a loving father and husband who has overcome past mistakes to redeem himself. He's proud of his culture and religion and refuses to compromise them to appease other people. I see no other issue other than "he's voiced by a white guy" and, well... that's called acting.
Whoops, guess we just need to scrap the entire show now since stereotypes are no longer allowed to exist or ever be portrayed in media ever again, obviously.
"were never finished evolving" what a succinct truthful message thank you, Bill.
"No matter how woke you are now I promise you you are tolerating things that will make you cringe in 25 years"
Yeah, like woke politics.
And abortion. I’m sure we’ll look back on that and say “we used to murder 3 million babies a year, yikes!”
@@stephenzwart7992 You got 3 months to choose and I'm ok with that. Any more than that and you've crossed a line. That's my view and it won't change.
@Matt Cabe So being woke is the opposite of having to rebuild your worldview.. but why not rebuild them?
Pffft...I don't think we're killing ENOUGH babies. Let's rid the world of freeway traffic. This is why I'm also anti-vaccination.
I won't be surprised if pedophilia will be tolerated in the future. This generation will be judged for withholding sex from children, and demonizing adults who were born with a tendency to be attracted to young boys and girls.
Love this guy, he’s a liberal but not a snowflake
@Johan Vivier or are pandered too by the people in charge of the Democrat party and corporations, the term 'Useful idiots' has never been more apt tbh.
Maher is no "liberal". He's way more honest and progressive than that.
Liberal i think doesn't mean anything anymore. You could call centrist liberals now these days.
He is definitely a snowflake. Having an emotional response to wokeness means you are emotional about nothing that matters lol
A lot of us are like that... you just don't know any of us perhaps 😌
If you get offended all the time. Maybe you are the problem....
I can't remember who said it, but there was this little saying.. "If you think everyone is an asshole, maybe it's you who are the asshole."
People who think everything is problematic are likely the problematic ones themselves.
Amen
*Nimh
@@namelessnopony9417 "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day..."
imagine if instead of demanding society changed for them they just did things like ummm idk not watch a cartoon they deem problematic?
I think this is Maher's best monologue ever. I'm a reluctant fan who thinks sourcing political ideology from comedy programs is problematic. However, our current madness is really making him shine.
And yet here he is over a year later, and he’s commenting on what we should do about the economy, and he didn’t even know the stock market crashed in 2020. How do you not know about the stock market crash when you write jokes about current events?
@@pwilliam255 Typically I would blame his obliviousness on fantastic wealth, but rich people tend to follow the market closely :-/
@@tcorourke2007 typically I would blame his obliviousness on him not knowing what he is talking about. If he didn’t know about the stock market crash, he doesn’t know why the current administration is doing what they are doing. What else is he missing with his other commentary. When someone gets something as wrong as he did, you should stop listening to him talk about politics. Dick jokes only for him. 😆
Wtf how do u know my name
@@pwilliam255 So.....he misses one thing about current events, and he's never allowed to talk about current events ever again? Sounds reasonable.
"Should we dig him up and yell at him?" 😂
Make sure he's a woke corpse lol
I loved that line, too. Ha, ha
Lol..almost chocked on my pop tart.
Jesus this aged perfectly.
Getting used to no audiences, they really slow the pace down with all the laugh pauses
Indeed...from two years on, even.
Don’t use the lords name in vain.
@@idontknowwhattoputhere.3572 Don't be so goddamned uptight
Came here to say the same thing another year later, despite his "25 years from now" comment. So far, it's like fine wine.
I am Indian and almost 20% of India's population which is around a whooping 200 million grew up watching Simpsons and although Appu was offensive but we loved it.We understood that American comedy is generally offensive,it targets everyone and not just Indians.It's ok....Offense is an essence of comedy.As an Indian I feel offended by an Indian stereotype but at the same time I enjoy a white guy,black,Latino,russian etc stereotypes put into a joke.I have so many relatives and friends who are American citizens,No body really cared about or got offended over Simpsons.Everyone understands that political correctness should stay out of comedy.
Well said. I wish that there were more thoughtful, reasonable people like you in this world.
what concerns me more is I bet that barely any indian cares enough about Apu to be offended and is a very small minority of indians and mostly "woke" people who are offended in their place.
This happened before in Mexico with the character of speedy gonzalez that was took out of TV because it was offensive but not a single Mexican was offended and we even demanded that he should return.
I loved apu. Watching him taught me hard work. All the whites on the show seemed so lazy but, not apu. My only favourite character.
Apu was one of the best & liked characters & now dickheads have killed him off.
To be fair the majority of people that are offended by Apu are White people. Of which they are offended "for the sake of" the people that BELIEVE should be offended. Because no one has their own voice. I suggest you look into the term Baizuo as it pretty much sums up this. As far as me? I'm Irish and i got a hell of a good laugh at groundskeeper Willy. Hell i still hear "Waving the white flag" jokes about french people and i'm part french.
You are 100% correct. One should keep PC out of Comedy. Because comedy at its core is meant to break down things that are hard for use to deal with. And in a era that is perpetually offended we need comedy more than anything.
Just popped up on my feed. This is the most sane thing I've seen in a year.
Groundkeeper Willie is portrayed as an angry bitter Scotsman,and as a Scotsman that makes me angry and bitter!!! 😉
So it's a faithful adaption then. XD (I kid of course)
You Scots sure are a contentious people...
@@thirdpowerful1 hahaha
David Kane My grandfather was Scottish and he was indeed angry and bitter, just like Willie.
I know you're kidding, but he's actually based on an old character Dave Thomas from SCTV did in the 80s. He was a Scottish cook named Angus Crock. My sister and I used to love SCTV. It's super funny, you should look it up!
I learned this from the source: Dan Castellaneta who does Willie's voice.
This dude is a true voice of reason
I am conservative but have been watching him for years.👏🏼👏🏼
2:53 - Back then, the age of consent in Great Britain was 17 (and today it's actually 16).
Yes Sir! - Because = Muslim right?
Yes Sir! 🤞
It never ceases to amaze me how morons can bend absolutely any discussion into "fuck the Muslims".
Obviously the Muslim religion had evolved too.
Obviously it has also changed over time, and still is.
TheYopogo a little, and it is our job to empower reformist activists to speak and promote equality for women, gays, and religious outsiders.
Remember: back then, there was this thing called a "sense of humour".
I don't always agree with Bill Maher, but every once in a while he brings forth deep, brilliant philosophical concepts in a humorous way. This is one of those times.
I totally agree!
It depends on whether he has good cocaine or not
Apu was a very sweet character
A well adjusted, successful Indian character whom everyone loved.
Yeah let's get rid of him, it's racist.
Apu is hella good, bangs every woman in Springfield, has a Doctorate's, volunteering firefighter, etc
He also got a doctorate, moved to America to get a better life, loves his wife dearly, is personal friends with Paul Mccartney, and likes making wicker furniture in his free time and discussing where to put it.
Whats more if you want him to represent the most amount of people why not have him be stereotypical.
And had a great voice with The Be Sharps & "Who Needs The Kwik-E-Mart"
I hope the audience understands that Bill is talking about them.
How do you know? You dont know the ideology of the audience members.
I think most of Bill's audience does not have this problem.
No, liberals aren't self aware
Sounds like reverse psychology Nort.
Ya know, George Carlin used to tell the audience that he was talking about them, while insulting them and they still used to cheer him on for it. No doubt each one of them was thinking "He's not talking about ME, but about the other toss-pots in the audience!"
Truly a master at his craft. Been enjoying your show for years. I watched Politically Incorrect growing up on ABC. Enjoyed this thoroughly! Thanks Bill.
I'm Indian and not offended by apu political correctness is stupid
That Indian guy who started the complaint about Apu in the first place, was.
@@Foebane72 People like to pretend to be offended.
Doesn't matter. The NPCs became offended on your behalf. Because reasons.
@@sirbattlecat True. I cannot stand it anymore they are literaly mentally ill they want to attack everything like literaly you cannot make a joke they demmed milk as sexist
@@matijalukovic727 the way I see it they're a natural consequence of a generation of parents who never said no and set boundaries, and taught them the world can be a harsh place but you can deal with it if you choose not to let it bother you.
lol that silence when he mentioned Obama being against gay marriage until his second term xD
I know. He is a hero to the far left for legalizing gay marriage and crucified by the far left for the same. In reality he tried like hell to avoid having to take a stand on the issue at all. He even said in his speech legalizing it something to the effect of " We changed the laws so that same sex couples had all the same rights as straight couples, I thought that would be enough..." He was literally just trying to get everyone to shut up so he could get back to work on ending war in the middle east, getting healthcare to the poor, and bailing the country out of its real estate gambling debts. The poor man couldn't win for losing on that issue and it is always listed as one of his major accomplishments whether he wanted to accomplish it or not.
@@mercedesholmes3022 far left?? Obama???!?!?! The man was definitely on the right lol.
Thats actually more relevant as it shows being for it could just be pr
@@nietzchepreacher9477 Can you blame them? The American "far left" is the global centrist or at most, center-left. They're so conservative that having a centrist ideology gets you labelled as a socialist.
Bernie Sanders was always on the right side
I either love or hate Bill Maher, and this is where I really love him lol
Same man.
Same.
Same
I like the first part but when he got to the clothes it bothered me. Every generations choice of clothing is not "we think this looks cool" it is "I do not want to look like the people directly before me".
I also was in highschool and college in the 80's and not everyone dressed like that. Some did but many did not. It is just how it was presented 40 years later because as time goes by fewer things stick.
Where do you hate him? Is it when he goes after trump or the Bible?
@surya sanjay. Thànks!! We need more voices like urs n Bills!!!
This whole Apu situation reminds me of the furor over Speedy Gonzales. It wasn't even Mexicans complaining, it was uptight white people getting offended on behalf of Mexicans, and they stopped showing his cartoons.
And Mexicans were like, "Hey, don't speak for us! We love Speedy!", and his cartoons were brought back.
awelcruiz What it was was entertainment companies and TV networks trying to self-police itself to please its advertisers and potential viewers it needs for ratings, especially in an age now where we have hundreds of cable channels, as well as streaming services like Hulu and especially Netflix to compete with now. If political correctness wasn't something that was seen as good business, it simply wouldn't be practiced.
Thank you! I was just thinking that and I am mexican! We do love speedy!
Exactly, being an Indian myself, I can't think of any reason as to how anyone would find Apu's character racist.
You know how awkward it feels when you see someone talk while forcing themselves to be as politically correct as possible, trying to sidestep even the mildest of stereotyping.
Racism is in the heart of an individual, not in their words.
BTW, what is this I'm hearing about FRIENDS? Is someone bitching about that fine show too?
It's true. Back in the day, we Indians loved Apu. He was the first Indian character on TV. And let's be real, if you were Indian in America, and you were not a doctor, you probably ran a convenience store.
Shellina Musa and Just for those thinking shellina is being racist, it has to do with how hospitals tended to hire doctors from overseas in places like India over to work for lesser wages then the American trained doctors. The only issue for the Indians and other doctors was that medical school is FUCKING expensive so they tended to be unable to afford American degrees and get paid better right off the bat.
The Simpsons has been on TV for over 30+ years and y’all just recently decided that Apu was offensive ?
Probably because they were bought by Disney who has become very “woke”
Thats why I thought the 'documentary' was bullshit
This only happened because Hari Kondabolu tried to get himself famous off of being divisive and complaining about Apu.
@@theblackprince9487
TruTV entertained Hari Kondabolu’s desire to be divisive for ratings.
Just recently started watching Maher And I can’t believe I’ve gone this long. I actually sit for hours and binge watch all of his stuff even from years ago. Love it brilliant man
Same for me, it's been good for my brain and reminds me to stay the course. ❤
"Should we dig him up and yell at him??" 😂😂😂
I dunno, might be cathartic. Honestly, what harm would it do?
a slogan to spawn a movement..
Isn’t every character in the Simpsons a stereotype?
Remember the epidsoe where Mr. Burns was on Homer's bowling team. ruclips.net/video/9135thV3Dj0/видео.html
simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/The_Stereotypes
Yes, thank you. I said the same thing. Especially the second and third tier characters.
"Isn’t every character in the Simpsons a stereotype?"
Yes.
But we all know if they are of a certain colour, ie not yellow then racism.
grounds keeper willie
Eh, Moe! Whutsa matter? You no talka with yo accent no more!
This puts me in mind of the Star Trek episode where McCoy goes back in time and is horrified that in 20th century medicine, "They cut and sew people like garments!" People have always thought that we had things figured out, only to be horrified a little while later and this has been going on for thousands of years. We don't know shit but we LOVE to be self-righteous.
Tom Strutt Great episode "Are you doctors or butchers?"
THE DOCTOR GAVE ME A PILL AND I GREW A NEW KIDNEY!
Actually we do know shit that's we we're criticizing it.
CelestialBloo. Ignorance and criticism are not mutually exclusive.
The "We are all Apu" campaign must begin. Anyone ever consider the character actually rounded the sharp edges of bigotry? Apu is very likable and may even humanize Indians and their culture for those that may have never even met anyone from India.
THIS!!! I am 100% sure Apu made some racists change their mind. If he only changed ONE racist's mind then the character is worth existing. "Cultural appropriation" when I went in school we were suppose to embrace different cultures, now we arent allowed to do that lmao "cultural appropriation" will only seperate people
I know who Ganesh is because of Apu.
#WeAreAllApu
And I will start my campaign #WeAreAllBumblebeeMan before someone else complains about my mexican stereotype :P
Apu started out as a representation of the American Dream ... an immigrant who came here, found a job, got a family, and his kids would eventually grow up better off for his efforts.
Thank God for Bill and his voice of reason!
Apu is a deep and well written character, there was nothing wrong with him then and there’s nothing wrong with him now.
Seconded.
I can think of several Simpsons characters that are far more offensive stereotypes.
@@TheOneLichemperor we Mexicans accepted the bee man even if some times it didn't make sense with the dub then why people care so much about the apu stereotype
His character is, so far as I recall, a far less developed one and has fewer redeeming qualities too.
@@TheOneLichemperor groundskeeper willie and bumblebee man to name a few
Apu started out as a representation of the American Dream ... an immigrant who came here, found a job, got a family, and his kids would eventually grow up better off for his efforts.
In fairness to the Beatle the age of consent is 16 in Britain.
@@solosulla9648 wow, never knew that song was written before the late 1800s, the age of consent for the UK has been 16 since 1885, there have been clarifications in the law for other offences that relate to consent but not the age, at least in England and Wales, Scotland had two ages of consent for female (16) and male (14), the only place in the UK that had its consent laws at 17 (at that time) was Northern Ireland but the Beatles were based in England.
@@owensquelch449 hehehe the dude even deleted his comment
That's a win in my books!
Not all heroes wear capes.
Owen Squelch g
@Rikirie That's correct.
Bill wrote this whole segment just so he could wear his old jacket.
He's an insane narcissist.
Severely underrated comment, Kira.
Thanks.
The fact that a jacket from the 1980s still fit him is truly worth respecting xD
The problem is context.
People today have to appreciation for or understanding of context.
They don't consider the situation things happened in or the environment and standards surrounding it. Instead they all react like dogs trained to respond to a command. They hear certain trigger-words or phrases, and they just freak out and start barking. They don't consider the situation, the environment, or even why they're barking or what it means; they simply hear/see the trigger-words and immediately flip out. The way they've been trained to react.
And that is why they get called NPCs.
That Pavlovian reflex tho!
Yep, exactly.
This. The best example of this is, if you talked to someone like 50 years ago there's a solid chance they'd call a black person "colored", maybe even call them a negro. That could come out of the mouth of a racist or a civil rights activist, that was just the word. If you don't get the context, you'll assume it's racist. Most people can grasp that, but when it comes to what kinds of jokes are ok, and what those jokes communicate, they're much less comfortable. And then of course, we just learn what we shouldn't do anymore. Taken to the extreme, there's a reason these whiners are the same ones who want Thomas Jefferson erased from public monuments and adoration because he owned slaves. Like every fuckin rich white guy of his age. His other contributions are irrelevant, dude owned slaves.
Ive been using the term 'barking' to describe the noises people make for years. 'NPC' is a new term for me, though. I always just used to use 'hominid' to distinguish them from genuine humans.
There are times I dislike what he says with a passion but there are times like this I stand and applaud.
Either way I’ve been watching him since before HBO, truth hurts and he don’t play.
He nails everything and everyone for stupidity and being downright wrong
If these "Woke" people ever see All In The Family their heads will explode.
And then there's "Maude" (giggle)...
Foreals
And there's America
" All In The Family"
Sounds like modern porn
Or any Mel Brooks movie. Or any Frank Zappa song
Best monologue you’ve done in a while. Bits sad how accurate this is.
As a swede i have zero problems with the Swedish Chef.
The rest of the world - Take notice
Right on! Hör sje bur, man!
NostalgiNorden You are a racist Swedish self hater.
NostalgiNorden I think the Swedish chef may have been seen as a racist portrayal if not for the fact that Jim Henson was himself of Swedish ancestry.
Yorge borge sven da hooven...yahyahyah
I’m Italian and have no problem with Fat Tony
"In '80s, being 'woke' meant you'd had too much cocaine." One of the greatest Bill Maher jokes ever.
"Woke" is one of the dumbest terms I've ever heard.
It is used by semi-literate people. They are trying to use the past tense of a verb as an adjective. That is the giveaway that they are dumb.
Surgeon Vault man it's finna woke
It was an old bay area slang term that has since been misappropriated by hipster douchebags.
"Nah-nah, it's 1990, y'all hoes better get woke to these muthafuckin old schools" - Richie Rich (415)
It's new cool kids internet word
We're not "the blacks" but you're otherwise correct.
As A Conservative, I find Real Time with Bill Maher great!
"You're not a woke. You're just a douchebag." 😁👍Well said, Bill Maher.
I think when the Beatles wrote “17” they were only 18.
In the uk the age of consent is 16
@@charley8888 and Moore was only 25 when he tryed flirting with 16 and 17 year old girls. calling moore a pedophil is basicly calling all cultures on earth till 50 years ago pedophile. in most cultures, at most times, girls married beetween 14 nd 16.
Their is no song by the Beatles called 17. Maybe you’re referring to I saw her standing there which was written in 1963 when the Beatles were mostly in their early 20s.
@@finkaiser3994 I saw her standing there was written in 1962 not 1963 because the Beatles were performing it much earlier in Hamburg
@@charley8888 yeah good point. I guess I was thinking in terms of timing with the release of the please please me album which came out in ‘63.
The best thing about this generation being over-judgemental is it's all recorded for their kids to play back to them.
Yes, this generation is overly judgmental, but how else are we supposed to evolve if the new generation don't challenge what was once tolerated by the old generation.
Duncan Wallace #cringecountry
I think each generation should challenge the previous, but not by being an angry-mob. Unless someone has actually broken the law, a little bit of forgiveness wouldn't hurt.
Millennials will be horrified once their children rebel against them and become Republicans.
For sure it is stupid to wag your finger at "Friends"... Just acknowledge those were the times and move on to your shitty CW drama... I have a DVD copy of the animated Jonny Quest series from the 60's... it is so wrong sometimes but it makes me lol because the creators actually try to promote multi-culturalism yet their 60's naivety and sometimes straight up innocence is there behind the cultural fails.
Hahahahahaha that BIG joke got me ☠️🤣☠️🙏🏾☠️🤣🙏🏾☠️🤣☠️🤣☠️ I forgot about that.
Rule of thumb: if you are offended by jokes... you have no sense of humor
I have noticed something that saddens me. 3 of my favorite Christmas movies. Christmas Vacation, Home Alone, and Scrooged. That world no longer exists. Standby me , The Sandlot, Fast Times At Ridgemont High. All 3 of these take place I think 50’s 60’s 80’’s. A time when children ran free. In or out I’m not air conditioning the entire neighborhood. We would just go and return for food and drink and sleep. Just to do all over again the next day. Summertime was ripe with adventure. Smoking my first cigarette. Kissing my first girl. I can remember clesning up after a cook out and there were 4 skunked Pabst blue ribbons. I ran them to the creek put them in and covered them with a rock. Later that day me and my friends smoked lucky strikes and drank those skunked beers on a warm summer afternoon. I was 13 at the time. My point is this. That world doesn’t exist anymore. Kids have play dates monitored by helicopter parents. Or they are just staining at their phones or playing video games. There is no more real life adventure for this generation. The story I told was one day of a summer vacation. And I have dozens of different stories like that from my summers as a young man in the 80’s. Ferris said it best. Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and take a look around once in a while it’ll pass you by. What stories are these kids gonna have? Really what are they gonna say. And will it beat a summer day smokin and drinking looking at a playboy skipping rocks. And chillin with my friends. And it’s all true every word. I can still taste that skunked Pabst blue ribbon. I reflect on that memory often in the summer when it’s really hot no breeze and high humidity. It’s funny how the mind works. And it’s funny that some random day from my childhood summer vacation would be burned to to my brain so vividly all these years later. Enjoy your time while you can because one day your gonna wake up and your gonna have back pain, bags under your eyes, a little chub where your 6 pack used to be and grey hair if your lucky to have any at all. And what will your memories be of? Something good I hope.
That was my childhood too, and I wouldn't change it for all the video games in the world!!
Yeah. I was born in the 1990s and miss the innocence and carefree nature at that time. Makes you wonder what happened to cause that paradigm shift.
Born in the 70’s grew up in 80’s / 90’s and wouldn’t change those experiences for the world!!! It WAS A GREAT TIME TO BE ALIVE! It’s been shit since the 2000’s
I did every single thing you mention above in the 80s and 90s all while watching a brand new industry grow and change through two seperate golden ages.
You can have your wokeness as long as I'm allowed to have my dark humour.
It seems like forever since I've seen a good comedy noir. I think my favorite might be Fight Club.
Gallows and surreal comedy are things we used to excel at. Not any more though, not since any decent comedy is judged as "inappropriate" and "problematic". I'm not talking about racist comedy like Bernard Manning or even low comedy like the Carry Ons. I'm talking the works of Milligan/ Sellers, Cook, Feldman, Cleese etc. There's a *lot* of good postwar comedy now judged offensive.
We're going back to the days when a comedy just meant anything with a happy ending.
The only wokeness you should have is that you were never woke to begin with.
Your dark humor probably harms women and people of color so fuck your humor
tazzydnc how? Does my dark humor pinch or push them? No? Then shut the fuck up
"...how we treat animals..."
*THANK YOU, BILL!*
👍👏👌
Did anyone else notice the crickets in the mention of Obama’s backflip on gay marriage
That was literally the best fucking part lol
A response dialogue wasn't programmed for them to be able to react to that.
These are the moments you know 3 things
1. Bill Maher's audience isn't as diverse as it thinks it is
2. Bill Maher does not use applause prompts
3. Bill Maher gives zero fucks
Aye
I was waiting for a follow up punchline that never came. Perhaps they were too.
The whole fucking lot frozen in the headlights. What do we do? Please! SOMEBODY TELLS US HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO THINK, FEEL AND RESPOND TO THAT!!!
Oh my gosh! You forgot Sting & The Police’s “Every Breath You Take”!!! The official stalkers anthem! 😂🤣😂
Every breath you take, every move you make.......I will be watching you......
He says married fans of his would come up to him back then and tell him that song was used in their wedding. And Born In The USA is a pro American song!!!
No that song is fine. It highlights toxic masculinity and the dangers of The Patriarchy (TM).
Truth is, he's never liked that song and has no idea why it is so popular.
Please, there's this French song where the guy just chases her in the street throughout the entirety of the music video.
2.57 - When the Beatles sang "She was just 17..." the age of consent in the UK was SIXTEEN.
Its still 16 lol
It's still a 17 year old... just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right
Phil Gallagher it’s still 16 (for heterosexuals) subject to exceptions where there is a potential for abuse of power, like teacher/student, in which case it’s 18.
@@OblivionEight The Beatles weren't much older than that at the time.
Yes, I know it is STILL 16, I'm English, and capable of using the past tense to describe something that happened in the past, regardless of the current circumstances. So yes, the age of consent in the UK is 16 AND when The Beatles recorded this song it WAS 16.
It's just simple grammar. Try it before jumping on somebody. Particularly if your comment is just an INCORRECT and IRRELEVANT one followed by "lol". It just shows up your own ignorance.
Brilianlt brilliant brilliant brilliant!! Thank god for you Bill. Really 🤟🤟
The Simpsons needs a new character to stereotype millenials. Neon dyed hair, lots of piercings, living with parents after getting a sociology/ethnic studies degree, and whines ad nauseam about the patriarchy.
aged about 30, and will not move out even with a court order
😆 That would be _classic!_
Family Guy did a cool episode on that recently
Well, 'The Simpsons' did do this: ruclips.net/video/p8M2tg2RkIQ/видео.html
yes they did and it was funny
Get woke about slaughterhouses!! Thanks for mentioning animals, Bill!!!
You want to kill th slaughterhouses? Easy, teach people to properly hunt, and return our right to live off the land. *Boom* no more animal cruel meat. Its also better for your health, and much tastier. Then there's all the exercise you get, and learning to be patient. Why are european ways better again?
Anyone else think that jacket doesn't look too bad on Bill?
I like it.
I think it would be OK in certain circumstances today. There are far worse fashion examples from the 80s and don't even get me started on the 70s.
I'd wear it
The Beatles also sang, "I'd rather see you dead, little girl, than to be with another man. You better run for your life if you can, little girl. Hide your head in the sand, little girl. Catch you with another man, that's the end, little girl." John was pretty messed up.
Amen. On that note, I'm so tired of people being offended for me. Get a life and you'll realise you're actually being the racist.
Vito Corleone
Whilst in University, some white student berated my friend, a white student for wearing kente cloth on the grounds of African cultural appropriation, despite him being South African. Who was treating who like crap?
I get what you're saying, and yes, we should call out assholes when we see them, but if everything is going to be taken as an offense to races (Halloween costumes, old cartoons and TV shows), maybe we should pull the plug on entertainment.
We're probably on the same page about a lot of this, but I'm not arguing that you did say that, merely pointing out that you were implying I thought it was okay to let people be racist assholes. Would this student have not said anything if he'd *known* the student was South African? Where is the line for this individual?
The reason I specifically mentioned Africa is because the other student specifically mentioned him not being of African descent, to point out his attempt to hide his bias behind a culture wall.
Perhaps we both should have expanded our initial statements.
Think of my stance in the context of the following: "_______ culture should stay with _______ people." The student, instead of attempting a back-and-forth discourse about the young man's fashion choices, attempted to humiliate him. These, in particular, are the types of people I'm calling out in reference to "my little story". Without a doubt, there are times when a call-out is necessary - even more than a call-out, infact - but cherry picking every aspect of another culture is a sort of cultural segregation. The road to hell and all that. Where did I say that it was universal?
Vito Corleone wow, you are denser than a black hole
See, you're forgetting the fact that white people are the saviors of the world and they need to protect the delicate little feelings of their pet minorities. After all, who better to tell us what hurts our feelings than a 20 something with tons money to throw away on a college education that won't get them a job.
Saying Apu was insensitive, or 80`s sitcoms were politically incorrect, is like saying when you were 5 years old you were so childish.
I think that only people who actually grew up with these, have any validity in saying anything. Hearing some 25 year old, or younger, offended by something from those times? Uhhh who cares what they think? Lol
@@psychedelicfright85 as an 18 year old, I am disgusted by my generation on a daily basis and even though I didn't see any of the 20th century, somehow in my mind I did. I almost exclusively listen to pre 90s music, mainly watch old shows and my favourite comedy groups are Monty Python and Blackadder. I'm not saying I should be accepted into the older generations, just that I think I relate to them more
Was The Breakfast Club a sitcom? I thought it was a movie. I've never seen it because it looks stupid to me.
As a fellow gen z
No, that's not the same thing. That would be saying that the 80's-90's civilization was on a childlike stage and today it's adult. Which it's not.
I dislike his politics, but he's 100 percent right on most of this
Anthony Iuculano How could he be 100% correct on MOST of this? I mean, how much of this was wrong? 10%, 20% maybe 35%? So by your math he is 100% right on most of this and 30% wrong on some of it? SMH!
"100% right on most of this" ? You must be a special kind of stupid... hopefully you're still attending school.
Pretty sure he means he agrees about not judging the past through the lens of current societal expectations
You two near the top must be trolling, obviously for each individual point most of them are 100% right. The others have things he disagrees with.
If you dislike his politics, then don’t take his fake news rants seriously either
I don't think anyone was seriously offended or believes anyone else was actually offended. He read some bs article in the times or some other rag, & since it reinforced his prejudice against Millennials, he decided to rant about it on his show, exasperating a non-issue, like he always does. Hes a lazy hack & it’s getting worse & worse
The clothes I wear today are so simple, it is difficult to think that they would be outdated in the future.
Save Apu! He was always one of the best characters on the show.
Charles Lumia
The writers of the show retired him in 2016 after addressing the problem.
@@giantsr1eva RIP Apu
I borrowed the name Anoop from Am.idol. just like it.
Well said. Gotta judge the past by the past's standards, not today's.
I get what ‘woke’ means, and I guess I appreciate the efforts to be a bit more conscious of how we portray people who fall outside of being equally represented...
That said, when I was in Portland, I had a pleasant conversation with my Uber driver who told me at the end that she appreciated me not bringing up her ethnicity as she had people falling all over themselves to show how cool they were with her being African. They don’t talk to her like she’s a human being. She’s a prop to make them feel good about how progressive they are.
That's all this whole phenomenon is all about, virtual signaling for it's own sake. Human stupidity is indeed boundless my friend
If you don’t “virtue signal” as a white person you run the risk of being accused of not seeing color, which to some is equal to racism.
UHG! Isn't that the worst??! So true!
Doesn't surprise me coming out of Portland. I was living on the East Coast for a few years and the amount of times I watched people trip over themselves so that they acknowledge all the right groups and people, "accept their privilege" and censor themselves so that they aren't viewed as talking over other marginalized groups, was painful. They did it even when they were in a conversation alone with me, just in case I might report them to the "woke" police for daring to speak to me genuinely and have an actual meaningful conversation. It's annoying and means that you spend endless amounts of time talking about nothing and never getting to the substance of a conversation. No wonder nothing ever is actually accomplished.
The last thing I want my legislators talking about is what their pronouns are ( I understand they are important, but conversations don't need to start with Hi! I'm Terry and my preferred pronouns are. If someone has pronouns that are different than what they might present as, then announce it, not everyone needs to)...I want them to do their job and legislate appropriately and as quickly and efficiently as possible...we the people should not be paying them to pander cheap platitudes to whatever group they think is in, they are paid to legislate. Do the work.
@@debd7631 UHG political correctness was bad enough before this woke, virtue signalling plague took over the libs!! It took me a while to realize how crazy they had become and that I could no longer view myself as fully liberal by comparison!! For the first time in my adult life I think I'm more center than left.
I was thinking "that jacket doesn't look too bad" till he brought up the shoulder pads lol
I’m termenally tainted by the 80-ties, I still thinks it looks kinda good.
The Simpsons has so many stereotypes, such as Groundskeeper Willie, the Italian chef, the evangelical Christian etc etc. So why is Apu the problem? I’m English and in the episode when the Simpsons came to England we all had bad teeth. That’s not offensive, it’s a joke!! Too many people need to get over it.
You’re English and you’re explaining how Indians should feel? Lol.
Gautham Pawnday yeah, why? Do we have a different biological sense of humour, depending on what geographic area we are born?
Gautham Pawnday being Indian myself it's not even Indians complaining about it. It's guilty progressive white people commanding what we should feel is offensive or not. This I personally find more offensive than something that is honestly and upfront Racist. Because they are treating us like victims that need to be protected when we are not. And that treatment is prejudicly based around our ethnic background. I grew up watching the Simpsons knowing it's all tongue and cheek and they're were many episodes that turned Apu into more than a 2 dimensional stereotype character.
PixelatedFox4 well said. I think there’s an episode where apu the sea boat captain and others are part of a bowling team called the stereotypes. The Simpsons should not be taken seriously. I can’t believe I have to point that out....
How many people are really angry about the Simpsons? Maybe 5? This only an issue because 1 person writes something and everyone jumps on it as if "the left" can't take a joke. It's tactics and Bill Maher, and you, are falling for them. Total waste of time.
I don't remember when was the last time I agreed with Bill in someting. Well said, sir.
You should watch the show. No matter where you stand politically, you will agree with him half the time.
In the late 90's I remember hearing stories of people kicking dogs and lighting cats on fire and the average person was asking why this is even a news story. Guys we have really come a long way as a society. We never give ourselves a pat on our backs. I'm Armenian and Turkey doesn't even allow us to say the genocide occurred. Meanwhile in America we're offended by everything
Andy Doufreisn Where we're you that people were kicking dogs and lighting cats on fire. Was here in the 90's and that would be offensive to anyone with a brain.
Not just america.. nowadays everyone is offended about everything.
Are you kidding me? I clearly remember stories on the news where police only could charge MAYBE a misdemeanor for killing someones pets. Just look at popular films like Secret Window starring Johnny Depp made in 2003-2004. His dog is brutally killed and the local police tell him," your dog got killed? Im not sure if thats even a crime here" Imagine that film today #Imoffended
lol wtf? MSM brainwash complete
Yeah exactley and I cringe every time when they talk about white privilige despite the entire fucking eastern european region was sacked and brutalized by more powrful nations like stuck between a vice of russia and turkey from one side and germany and austria from the other for hundreds of years being double penetrated and I dont hear no fucking ukranian or polish person bitching about their genocide and opression while a college student in the west cries about not having a made up kind of bath room.
That Jacket gives me Max Headroom flash backs, and I LIKE IT!!! lol.
You know, I used to consider Bill Maher a mad raving leftist, now, I find myself agree with him so much because he’s coming out against political correctness and retroactive censorship.
Cuatro Jones He's always been like this. He literally had a show in the 90s named Politically Incorrect
So you just like treating people like shit mate? Got it.
He's more a liberal than a leftist, since he often critizises the socialist dream of millenials. I don't know what time he's ever not been politcially incorrect though.
He only does it because he knows one day the Thought Police will come looking for him.
Yeah, totally - millionaire talk-show host is massively under threat.
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
what people will tolerate in 25 years is damn scary to think about.
What they won't tolerate scares me more...
You mean like equal rights. Holy shit, how terrifying.
who doesn't have equal rights? besides cows and chicken.
the victim mentality and self righteousness is so pathetic. nice that people appear to be noticing it finally, except those that are still stuck being pathetic.
Elise M Its Not as easy as you think
I’m conservative but I like to watch Bill Maher. I really like his New Rules.
Unfortunately, Bill is often inconsistent giving a break to those he likes but condemnation to those he dislikes.
I’m also a conservative and he is hilarious just like Joe Rogan and other democrats trashing political correctness.
Right there with you on this.
You’re comment speaks about normal human behavior and normal differences in opinion. Every talk show host will talk about the stuff that he is passionate about whether positively or negatively. Agreeing with some of his opinions and disagreeing with others is the most normal thing as well. However, nowadays most people think that you have to either agree or disagree completely with one person’s opinion leading us to this polarized society
@@loganstolberg2743 Joe, spreader of misinformation, from the alt-right, a democrat? Time flies by 🤣
Yeah, he and every other person who's ever opened their mouth and spoke a sentence.
Yo Bill Mahr keeping the 80's alive. Dude gonna accidently start a trend!
I once told a woke friend that if the rate of wokening continues, in a couple hundred years people won't see much difference between him and Hitler or Stalin for some common everyday thing we do or support which our decendants will identify as deplorable. He expressed complete disbelief. When Washington and Jefferson are compared to Confederate generals and targeted for statue removal over slavery, Abraham Lincoln's just another white guy and the allyship of whites in the Civil Rights movement is deemed problematic... Hopefully it's just this generation which sees things so monochromatically.
Bold of you to assume our society will still be around in a couple hundred years.
In 25 years, we will cringe at political correctness. Hopefully.
I suppose because it's already being replaced by this sjw thing
@@MunkiZee some would say that the SJW thing and Wokeness go hand in hand, make of that what you will.
There have always been many different kinds of PC, it will never truly go away.
We don't accept the apu character because it was fine 30 years ago, we accept it because it's still fine. There is nothing wrong with imitating an indian and making fun of stereotypes.
The problem unfortunately is that Apu was one of the only characters of South Asian descent that existed on American television for a very long time and when you’re any kind of minority, which South Asians are, only 4% of America, trying to fit in, you tend to become pigeonholed by that kind of lack of representation in media and that lack of a strong presence in society.
@@RocStarr913 Nobody judges anyone by their same coloured counterparts on cartoons. Why does everyone need representation in media?
Oh my! The look Andy had on when he agreed with him. I love this man!!! 4:46
What about Grounds Keeper Willy, just because all we Scots are hot tempered, heavy drinking, kilt wearing, bagpipe players does not mean we should be depicted that way on The Simpsons. Scotland demands they cease & desist.
He is a walking stereotype. Offensive
I don't think I have met someone that has been so offended that they told me. These people must b a minority as I hear offensive jokes all the time from friends and family and nobody calls the authorities. Then again I am not on twitter or Facebook. Gas the Simpsons.
he's white, so he's okay to make fun of. Just like Cletus.
He's a stereotype of a European culture, SJW's generally don't care about that.
He drank? I thought he was fun and rightfully angry but there are a lot of other examples of Scots of the years. Not really many Indians.
We should of been listening to Lisa Simpson for over 20 years now
Venice Beach Sports Network Lisa is a leftist snowflake, Eric Cartman is the way to go.
@Daiaan That kind of thinking is exactly what gave birth to people like Milo Yiannopoulos.
Mutassim Daiaan yeah I'd totally take Lisa over Cartman but funny comment
Bill Maher is masterfully witty. Aged to perfection!
WOW found this four years late and is still relevant.
As a millennial that still watches friends. I couldn't care any less
Just a random note, thank you for correctly saying the expression. Then often misquoted "I could care less" means you could actually care less, which means you care more than someone who "couldn't care less". All generations seem to get this one wrong.
Well he did say he applauded the sane ones like us.
@@goatcheese4me I know I'm dumb enough to watch friends but I'm not that dumb
I'm an older gen z, I be honest I think friends is abit fat shaming and transphobic. However I do enjoy watching it. So I get what bill means.
Me neither. I never watched Friends, never found them very funny.
Speaking as a progressive Millennial, I love this rant. SJW crowd is a cancer of the left.
I call bullshit! Your ok with him bad mouthing your allies.....your not a progressive at all! Sanity isn't a trait of the left!
What, all of them?
I sure don't agree things I tolerate today will make me cringe in 25 years. I'm not very tolerant of whiny snowflakes and PC culture.
ill drink to that sir.
I'll miss apu
haha yeah, if shit makes me cringe now when I'm young then all I gotta do is hope things go up, not down
I'll probably be fine, seeing as I barely tolerate anything at all as it is now.
“Just throw shiiiiiiiit”🤣🤣🤣🤣
As an Indian, I find Apu very funny! And I agree with Bill that it doesn't matter what our culture was in past and moreover Simpsons actually makes stereotype of every nationality weather it be french, Spanish or American. People are pissed off because they are snow flakes. I do believe in evolving as society but complaining about Apu is bullshit.
I agree, and as a white dude who grew up on bland food, I want to thank you and all Indians for those amazing curries, but I also must add that vindaloo chicken is my favorite.
So does the person who made the movie Maher is ranting about while obviously not having seen it.
What the fuck are you goons even whining about?
What about that Simpsons episode where Apu is called a bus rapist and the one where he throws acid on a woman who said he was ugly?
complain about the only Indian character while there are hundreds of white 'merican stereotypes in the same show with Homer as their leader... the simpsons told me 'mericans are fat, ignorant and stupid but I don't see anyone complaining about it... take every single character and you'll find they're all stereotypes of some sort, that's what the show is about for the love of Ganesh grow up
Yeah you owe your thanks to the civil rights movement and all the people that were hung and trees water hose and chased by dogs and killed in this country for being other than white, now you can come here and enjoy all the luxuries that are afforded to you on our blood. F****** snowflake
"You look like a villain in a Batman Movie". = LOL
Finally, some sanity. One of the best New Rules. Bravo.
Greets from Germany! You ROCK, Bill! But look how much worse this attitude has become in the meantime!
Bill is good at unraveling a subject and nailing it down.
Nice drawings man!
Haha thanks. Didn't expect a nice comment when I woke up and saw I had a response to my Bill Maher comment :P
Not sure I've had someone mention my drawings in the comments before.
Garrett Don't be salty because your Ducks got swept
Mike Orr to a certain extent
What’s sad here is that bill is giving cover to the anti free speech crowd. He’s an apologist.
What Molly Ringwald doesn't consider is what might have happened after the end credits rolled. Everyone could have ended up a better person, due to the influence of this one weekend experience. That, to me, seemed to be the message of the movie. People with differences can still, sometimes, manage to get along.
Insane people only shame other people and see nothing bad about themselves.
Great individuals try to improve themselves every single day.
Have not laughed this hard for 3 years 🤣