Thank you for the excellent update! It’s great to see real examples long after installation. Yet another reason energy consumption goes down in the summer: incoming water is warmer as the ground surrounding the supply pipe heats up. Not only does it make the water heater work less to get the tank up to temperature, the warmer cold water supply needs less hot water to mix with for a shower. I’m up in Canada, where the cold water temperature difference is massive from summer to winter!
I've put a 1 x10 x 20 furnace filter on the top inlet. So far not a speck of dirt on factory pull out filter. Hopefully the insides, condensation coils, & drain tube stays clean.
I plan on buying one of these and it will be in my basement which is a bit dusty. I will 100% be trying this out. I was concerned about it getting dirty.
@@AMan7595 Ours is in a dirt & rock basement area with a concrete pad for it and our propane furnace. A 3ft high cinderblock wall around 3 sides keeps the rocks & dirt away. I use a couple pieces of duct tape to hold the furnace filter in place.
We are a two person household. In the summer it’s about 1/4 the cost to operate of my old water heater. In the winter it’s about 1/3 the cost compared to the old one. Yes it was more expensive $1079 for 45 gallon and $196 in parts to install, but I will most definitely make the money back in a couple years. I’m just floored by the difference in our electric bills. Running it at 110deg most the day (change temp schedule via Wi-Fi). It comes on to 125deg (otherwise we run out of hot water) around 3pm-7:30pm(back down to 110deg normally just as 2nd person takes their shower).We’ve gotten in the habit of trying to run dw and take showers only in this window. It’s in the garage so we run it on heat pump only in the summer as it runs efficiently in a hot humid garage. In the winter we run it on energy saver (elements and heat pump). Highly recommend especially if your state offers a rebate.
I’m in central Florida and plan on getting one of these in March. I’m going to get the 80 gallon version bc with 4 girls, my wife and me we empty the 50 gallon electric we currently have at night. I’ve had to start taking an early bath just so when the girls take a bath at night the hot water doesn’t run out. I hope to save some money bc I have a feeling our water heater cost us a lot every month to run.
I live in Washington and our water heater is in our unheated garage and it’s 31 F outside so it wouldn’t work well in the heat pump mode. I wonder if there is an automatic mode. It would be fine half of the year or a bit more in heat pump mode. Our heater is 20 years old and recently started acting up and is making extremely hot water.
Thank you for your report. There is a person online who states that: "maintenance of a hybrid tank water heater is a REAL problem with the filter getting so clogged with dust that the unit shuts down the compressor." He seems to imply that the filter must be cleaned almost every month. Most people who have "regular" water heaters do not do much if any maintenance. What comments do you have? Do you have to clean your filter every month? Would you add another (furnace) filter over the inflow area? Thanks! Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
My filter is very clean and I have to clean it maybe twice a year. If you have to clean it every month it means there must be lots of dust where water heater is located. I have it in my garage.
Regular water heaters still have plenty of maintenance. You're supposed to flush it every so often. The heat coils and anode rod should be replaced sometimes depending on the quality of your water.
Heat Pump Water Heaters (like most heat pump products) make so much sense in temperate weather regions. I’m jealous because these things make zero sense in colder regions where you’re drawing colder air or air that was already heated by a furnace and then (if you’re not directing the colder air that is exhausted outside your home) it just cools the air you just warmed with your furnace. So the perceived savings are negated by a larger gas bill from the furnace. “But then you should get a heat pump to replace your furnace!” Heat pumps in cold climates aren’t as effective and eventually need to fall back to a heating element. Heat pumps totally make sense in Florida, Texas, Arizona where it’s hot and you get the added benefits of air conditioning your garage or basement.
@@MaciejPiotrowski Thanks, that helps me a lot. 43C will certainly keep the electricity consumption low, and we don't actually need water hotter than that IMO, maybe 45C ;)
I am interested in the 50 gallon Rheem Hybrid Hot water heater but would like to know if I would need a larger capacity. We are a household of 4 adults. So, please consider 4x shower, dishwasher 1 per day, and washing machine 4 times per week. Do you think a 50 gallon Rheem hybrid water heater would be sufficient or could i potentially run out of water at peak usage. We reside in Florida. Please let me know your thoughts on this matter. Thanks so much.
I have 2 people in the house and 2 bathrooms. When I have guests I change the settings for shower time to high demand and I have no problem with not heaving hot water.
My question: I live in Western Washington State and my hot water heater is in the main floor laundry room.... Does the hybrid make noise all the time or does it come on and go off like a refrigerator or air-conditioner.... I couldn't hear the sound of the unit on your video.
If you use so compressor turns on it will turn on and off just like AC. What I would do at night, this is what I do at home, I set schedule to turn it off. I dont need it to work at night. That's how you save electricity. When it uses heating element it's silent.
I'm in western washington too, Olympic peninsula area. I have the Rheem 50 gallon in my basement where the temp is pretty constant year round. As for noise, it sounds slightly louder than my fridge. I vent the cold exhaust outside and plan to add a solar air heater duct that I can switch to in warmer weather for the intake to the water heater. We recieved a $900. rebate from our utility company too. So far , we love it!
@@MaciejPiotrowski All good, I figured it! On the label it says 240V and Compressor 1.6A RLA (Rated Load Amp) 240*1.6=384 Watts [0.384Kw]. If it ran for 3 hours in heat pump only mode it would only have used 1.152 Kw which is amazing compared to electric heaters with regular anode rods using 4.5 Kilowatts which could end up using 13.5 Kw if they ran for 3 hours a day. The heat pump water heater is definitely more efficient.
Any reason why one of these heat pump water heaters would restrict water flow while in hybrid mode? Switch to electric and have water switch to hybrid and water is restricted???
Hybrid water heaters SUCK! Period. I have one as a test model in my own home and am a licensed professional at the highest levels with 25 years of experience. There is little difference between brands with build quality. The heat pumps run nearly constantly in hybrid or especially efficiency mode, they burn out, coils ice over and are just generally buggy (don't heat the tank all the way through. I have an 80 gallon in a basement that is always, year-round between 55 and 65 degrees. Well within the operational temps stated by the manufacturer. In efficiency mode it takes 24 hours to heat through from cold, in hybrid mode it takes 12 and straight electric mode electric takes 5-6 hours. I get calls and complaints from owners all the time and there is literally nothing I can do because there is no error code and nor real serviceable parts in the compressor unless you're an AC/R tech, which pretty much no plumber is. So, the manufacturer will give you a new water heater after a good fight, but you will be on the hook for its installation. Gas operated on demand systems are just as efficient if not more so and can actually be fixed if they break and produce endless hot water at 5-6 GPM. Hybrid water heaters are expensive JUNK pushed by the green douche's simply because its electric and that way they can have a single fuel "pipeline" that can at some point, be controlled/regulated and it's not the bad...bad fossil fuel. If you have ANY OTHER OPTION, do that because otherwise I promise well before the factory warrantee is up, you will be getting the dreaded error code for a failed compressor. Yes, some people have no problems and if that's you great, save your breath because you are the minority I have installed literally a few thousand of these now over a decade or more, all brands all sizes and I am here to tell you that 2-3 of every 10 we install fail in the first 3 years. So, 20% to 30% failure rate from the factory. Why am I so mad? Because customers associate these failures with my work, even if they picked the water heater, it must be something we did wrong with the installation, or we must have damaged it when bringing it in. Ect. I have some customers on their 3rd hybrid water heater in 4 years and they appreciate me coming out to help about as much as one appreciates his dentist during a root canal. This is just another example of the green new government working with, schilling for, the manufacture and release to the public of an inferior product in the name of efficiency, that is actually less efficient and cost more to own than most on demand gas water heaters. Oh, but you're saving the planet with electricity from a coal, or co-generated power plant, or solar where large swaths of land were clear cut for panels. Its BS and the consumer is lead down the primrose path by the promise of efficiency and "savings". Don't believe it.... you're getting screwed. And yeah....I tell all customers this stuff up front now, so they can't blame me when 3 years later their paying me to do a warranty swap and wrangle the manufacturer to honor their warrantee.
Thank you for your comment. First - I disagree with your statement that heat pump runs constantly. Maybe it runs non stop in your house. I have temp set at 43C (109F) for when I'm home and 47C (116F) for 2 hrs before I go to sleep. During the week, half a day water heater is set to OFF. With those settings I pay about $10/month run this water heater and heat pump turns on not more than 3 times in an hour for 5 min. There are only 2 people in my home. My water heater is in my garage in Florida. Garage is less humid and temp around 70 to 80F. With conventional WH I used to pay around $30/month. After heater is off for even a week, when we go on vacation, it takes not more than 20 min to have 116F. This water heater is my blessing because I used to have lots of humid in my garage in FL so you could not do anything in it during summer. Now this water heater's heat pump pulls lots of moisture out of the garage so I can work in it even during the summer. The temp in my garage is also lowered by 5 to 10 deg F. Hybrids wont make sense or cause much savings in you live up north.
Thank you for the excellent update! It’s great to see real examples long after installation.
Yet another reason energy consumption goes down in the summer: incoming water is warmer as the ground surrounding the supply pipe heats up.
Not only does it make the water heater work less to get the tank up to temperature, the warmer cold water supply needs less hot water to mix with for a shower.
I’m up in Canada, where the cold water temperature difference is massive from summer to winter!
I've put a 1 x10 x 20 furnace filter on the top inlet. So far not a speck of dirt on factory pull out filter. Hopefully the insides, condensation coils, & drain tube stays clean.
I plan on buying one of these and it will be in my basement which is a bit dusty. I will 100% be trying this out. I was concerned about it getting dirty.
@@AMan7595 Ours is in a dirt & rock basement area with a concrete pad for it and our propane furnace. A 3ft high cinderblock wall around 3 sides keeps the rocks & dirt away. I use a couple pieces of duct tape to hold the furnace filter in place.
We are a two person household. In the summer it’s about 1/4 the cost to operate of my old water heater. In the winter it’s about 1/3 the cost compared to the old one. Yes it was more expensive $1079 for 45 gallon and $196 in parts to install, but I will most definitely make the money back in a couple years. I’m just floored by the difference in our electric bills. Running it at 110deg most the day (change temp schedule via Wi-Fi). It comes on to 125deg (otherwise we run out of hot water) around 3pm-7:30pm(back down to 110deg normally just as 2nd person takes their shower).We’ve gotten in the habit of trying to run dw and take showers only in this window. It’s in the garage so we run it on heat pump only in the summer as it runs efficiently in a hot humid garage. In the winter we run it on energy saver (elements and heat pump). Highly recommend especially if your state offers a rebate.
great video. bought two for off grid house and kennel
I’m in central Florida and plan on getting one of these in March. I’m going to get the 80 gallon version bc with 4 girls, my wife and me we empty the 50 gallon electric we currently have at night. I’ve had to start taking an early bath just so when the girls take a bath at night the hot water doesn’t run out.
I hope to save some money bc I have a feeling our water heater cost us a lot every month to run.
I just had one installed. Live in SW Florida. Look forward to the savings!
I live in Washington and our water heater is in our unheated garage and it’s 31 F outside so it wouldn’t work well in the heat pump mode. I wonder if there is an automatic mode. It would be fine half of the year or a bit more in heat pump mode. Our heater is 20 years old and recently started acting up and is making extremely hot water.
@@patfromamboy I think you might be surprised by the heat pump during a cold winter. There is still heat in the air that it can pull from.
Thanks! Just got one and am installing it today....
Thank you for your report. There is a person online who states that: "maintenance of a hybrid tank water heater is a REAL problem with the filter getting so clogged with dust that the unit shuts down the compressor." He seems to imply that the filter must be cleaned almost every month. Most people who have "regular" water heaters do not do much if any maintenance.
What comments do you have? Do you have to clean your filter every month? Would you add another (furnace) filter over the inflow area?
Thanks!
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
My filter is very clean and I have to clean it maybe twice a year. If you have to clean it every month it means there must be lots of dust where water heater is located. I have it in my garage.
Regular water heaters still have plenty of maintenance. You're supposed to flush it every so often. The heat coils and anode rod should be replaced sometimes depending on the quality of your water.
Heat Pump Water Heaters (like most heat pump products) make so much sense in temperate weather regions.
I’m jealous because these things make zero sense in colder regions where you’re drawing colder air or air that was already heated by a furnace and then (if you’re not directing the colder air that is exhausted outside your home) it just cools the air you just warmed with your furnace. So the perceived savings are negated by a larger gas bill from the furnace.
“But then you should get a heat pump to replace your furnace!” Heat pumps in cold climates aren’t as effective and eventually need to fall back to a heating element.
Heat pumps totally make sense in Florida, Texas, Arizona where it’s hot and you get the added benefits of air conditioning your garage or basement.
Agree with you. It makes more sense in warm climates
Is 43C the normal temperature setpoint that you use? If yes have you found any issues with that?
I have 43 C all day and 47 for the night showers. No issues.
@@MaciejPiotrowski Thanks, that helps me a lot. 43C will certainly keep the electricity consumption low, and we don't actually need water hotter than that IMO, maybe 45C ;)
Thanks!
I am interested in the 50 gallon Rheem Hybrid Hot water heater but would like to know if I would need a larger capacity. We are a household of 4 adults. So, please consider 4x shower, dishwasher 1 per day, and washing machine 4 times per week.
Do you think a 50 gallon Rheem hybrid water heater would be sufficient or could i potentially run out of water at peak usage. We reside in Florida.
Please let me know your thoughts on this matter. Thanks so much.
I have 2 people in the house and 2 bathrooms. When I have guests I change the settings for shower time to high demand and I have no problem with not heaving hot water.
My question: I live in Western Washington State and my hot water heater is in the main floor laundry room.... Does the hybrid make noise all the time or does it come on and go off like a refrigerator or air-conditioner.... I couldn't hear the sound of the unit on your video.
If you use so compressor turns on it will turn on and off just like AC. What I would do at night, this is what I do at home, I set schedule to turn it off. I dont need it to work at night. That's how you save electricity. When it uses heating element it's silent.
@@MaciejPiotrowski thank you very much...
I'm in western washington too, Olympic peninsula area. I have the Rheem 50 gallon in my basement where the temp is pretty constant year round. As for noise, it sounds slightly louder than my fridge. I vent the cold exhaust outside and plan to add a solar air heater duct that I can switch to in warmer weather for the intake to the water heater. We recieved a $900. rebate from our utility company too. So far , we love it!
How loud is the pump?
watch this and you will hear it ruclips.net/video/vYS1uZEyxX8/видео.htmlsi=XZ5Hg5Rqty11sjJc&t=550
How many watts does the heat pump use in heat pump only mode?
I have no idea. You may want to check with Rheem on that.
@@MaciejPiotrowski All good, I figured it! On the label it says 240V and Compressor 1.6A RLA (Rated Load Amp) 240*1.6=384 Watts [0.384Kw]. If it ran for 3 hours in heat pump only mode it would only have used 1.152 Kw which is amazing compared to electric heaters with regular anode rods using 4.5 Kilowatts which could end up using 13.5 Kw if they ran for 3 hours a day. The heat pump water heater is definitely more efficient.
@@William5394 Thanks for that info. When I was testing different modes on it Energy Saver seems to be the most cost efficient mode.
@@MaciejPiotrowski it seems so in the summer. I’m averaging 19kwh/week :)
@@William5394 Mine is in my garage on heat pump only for the summer. I’m averaging 19 kWh/week.
Any reason why one of these heat pump water heaters would restrict water flow while in hybrid mode? Switch to electric and have water switch to hybrid and water is restricted???
There should be no water flow change between different modes.
I switched to. Rheem heat pump and have not noticed any drop in pressure.
Hi, does this Hybrid requires a venting exhaust?
no
only if you are installing this in a closet.
Hybrid water heaters SUCK! Period. I have one as a test model in my own home and am a licensed professional at the highest levels with 25 years of experience. There is little difference between brands with build quality. The heat pumps run nearly constantly in hybrid or especially efficiency mode, they burn out, coils ice over and are just generally buggy (don't heat the tank all the way through. I have an 80 gallon in a basement that is always, year-round between 55 and 65 degrees. Well within the operational temps stated by the manufacturer. In efficiency mode it takes 24 hours to heat through from cold, in hybrid mode it takes 12 and straight electric mode electric takes 5-6 hours. I get calls and complaints from owners all the time and there is literally nothing I can do because there is no error code and nor real serviceable parts in the compressor unless you're an AC/R tech, which pretty much no plumber is. So, the manufacturer will give you a new water heater after a good fight, but you will be on the hook for its installation. Gas operated on demand systems are just as efficient if not more so and can actually be fixed if they break and produce endless hot water at 5-6 GPM. Hybrid water heaters are expensive JUNK pushed by the green douche's simply because its electric and that way they can have a single fuel "pipeline" that can at some point, be controlled/regulated and it's not the bad...bad fossil fuel. If you have ANY OTHER OPTION, do that because otherwise I promise well before the factory warrantee is up, you will be getting the dreaded error code for a failed compressor. Yes, some people have no problems and if that's you great, save your breath because you are the minority I have installed literally a few thousand of these now over a decade or more, all brands all sizes and I am here to tell you that 2-3 of every 10 we install fail in the first 3 years. So, 20% to 30% failure rate from the factory. Why am I so mad? Because customers associate these failures with my work, even if they picked the water heater, it must be something we did wrong with the installation, or we must have damaged it when bringing it in. Ect. I have some customers on their 3rd hybrid water heater in 4 years and they appreciate me coming out to help about as much as one appreciates his dentist during a root canal. This is just another example of the green new government working with, schilling for, the manufacture and release to the public of an inferior product in the name of efficiency, that is actually less efficient and cost more to own than most on demand gas water heaters. Oh, but you're saving the planet with electricity from a coal, or co-generated power plant, or solar where large swaths of land were clear cut for panels. Its BS and the consumer is lead down the primrose path by the promise of efficiency and "savings". Don't believe it.... you're getting screwed. And yeah....I tell all customers this stuff up front now, so they can't blame me when 3 years later their paying me to do a warranty swap and wrangle the manufacturer to honor their warrantee.
Thank you for your comment. First - I disagree with your statement that heat pump runs constantly. Maybe it runs non stop in your house. I have temp set at 43C (109F) for when I'm home and 47C (116F) for 2 hrs before I go to sleep. During the week, half a day water heater is set to OFF. With those settings I pay about $10/month run this water heater and heat pump turns on not more than 3 times in an hour for 5 min. There are only 2 people in my home. My water heater is in my garage in Florida. Garage is less humid and temp around 70 to 80F. With conventional WH I used to pay around $30/month.
After heater is off for even a week, when we go on vacation, it takes not more than 20 min to have 116F.
This water heater is my blessing because I used to have lots of humid in my garage in FL so you could not do anything in it during summer. Now this water heater's heat pump pulls lots of moisture out of the garage so I can work in it even during the summer. The temp in my garage is also lowered by 5 to 10 deg F.
Hybrids wont make sense or cause much savings in you live up north.